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Re: What was the last movie you watched?
« Reply #12285 on: January 16, 2013, 03:59:52 PM »
How Did This Get Made? is a fun podcast, but they have the annoying tendency to SHOUT OVER EACH OTHER A LOT.  Especially Mantsuzakis. 

And Crank 2 is terrible!


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Re: What was the last movie you watched?
« Reply #12286 on: January 16, 2013, 04:01:19 PM »
I heard the Birdemic episode of "How Did This Get Made" with Weird Al, and loved it. Everyone was having so much fun. I need to listen to more of those...

I think what a lot of the internet doesn't get about comedy is this:

If you don't love it on some level, you can't effectively make humor about it. Rifftrax, Cinematic Titanic, and MST3K before them, I firmly believe, is written by people who LOVE watching bad movies. By extension, they love bad movies. When they make fun of them, it's comedy, because they're lovingly roasting the movie. If you hate it with every fiber of your being-- if you're just miserable watching it because it's bad and you hate it--and you try to poke fun at it, you'll only end up insulting it. Insults CAN be funny, but usually they're just unfunny hate-spew, and the only people who will enjoy it are other unfunny hateful people. This is why it's a lot more fun to watch a celebrity roast of Larry the Cable Guy than to watch a group of 10th graders making fun of the fat kid.


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Re: What was the last movie you watched?
« Reply #12287 on: January 16, 2013, 04:16:20 PM »
Note, this post changes it's opinion halfway since I'm to lazy to edit:

I think that's largely true, but not entirely.  I don't think anyone "liked" Red Zone Cuba on any level, or I can't think of what that level could possibly be (which I'll use since it's been largely berated by Best Brains alumni for it's ugliness) except that they could get jokes from them, but they love film and they like the opportunity to mock films with friends.  They didn't like Red Zone Cuba, but in watching it, they were able to understand it in a way that even the creators missed out on.  I think it's less of a love of specific movies (granted, I don't know if that's what you were implying, so maybe I'm misreading it) than being able to analyze and criticize.  Still, I suppose there might be "love" in examining it and trying to see what they can make out of it, in the same way I don't like tomatoes on their own, but they are great in a BLT or a burger: as part of something bigger they can be loved.  But yeah, the approach can't be pure vitriol, it needs to be tempered with wit, a viewpoint and an ability to have fun with it, or failing that, using it as a tool for having fun.

Of course, I didn't really take the time to really hammer out these thoughts.  Rebuttals or alternative ideas?


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Re: What was the last movie you watched?
« Reply #12288 on: January 16, 2013, 04:29:25 PM »
If I recall correctly, Kevin states in his book that he's not really a fan of watching bad movies (he specifies how he never likes watching the Razzies or stuff that's "So bad it's good"). I think it's all less a matter of loving what they're watching and more just loving what they're doing, which is bringing fun and humor to places that otherwise just bring depression or boredom (on account of how awful they are). A perk of being a talented comedian, I suppose.

Still, I do agree with some of what Pak said, in that some level of sincerity is key to really get good humor across. Can't be ironic and detached and expect it all to work like it should. And there is a good understanding that insult humor is generally not the best way to go (though the occasional sharp jab never hurts, when well applied).


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Re: What was the last movie you watched?
« Reply #12289 on: January 16, 2013, 04:39:38 PM »
How Did This Get Made? is a fun podcast, but they have the annoying tendency to SHOUT OVER EACH OTHER A LOT.  Especially Mantsuzakis. 

And Crank 2 is terrible!

I think you mean amazing. ;)

Mantsuzakis is great. "You guys. Thatmakes....no sense."

Have you listened to/watched the one for 88 Minutes?


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Re: What was the last movie you watched?
« Reply #12290 on: January 16, 2013, 06:18:04 PM »
I agree that the Razzies feel really smug, they always go for the easiest target in my opinion.

I also loooooove How Did This Get Made, part of my I love it is (as they say in the there) they're not haters.  They talk about how insane or confusing movies are without getting bogged down in the kind of monotonous outrage or disgust that I find in things like That Guy With Glasses (& the like) and a lot of the blockbuster Rifftrax do.


I heard the Birdemic episode of "How Did This Get Made" with Weird Al, and loved it. Everyone was having so much fun. I need to listen to more of those...

I think what a lot of the internet doesn't get about comedy is this:

If you don't love it on some level, you can't effectively make humor about it. Rifftrax, Cinematic Titanic, and MST3K before them, I firmly believe, is written by people who LOVE watching bad movies. By extension, they love bad movies. When they make fun of them, it's comedy, because they're lovingly roasting the movie. If you hate it with every fiber of your being-- if you're just miserable watching it because it's bad and you hate it--and you try to poke fun at it, you'll only end up insulting it. Insults CAN be funny, but usually they're just unfunny hate-spew, and the only people who will enjoy it are other unfunny hateful people. This is why it's a lot more fun to watch a celebrity roast of Larry the Cable Guy than to watch a group of 10th graders making fun of the fat kid.

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Re: What was the last movie you watched?
« Reply #12291 on: January 17, 2013, 05:03:15 PM »
The Impossible.

The dialogue is terrible, and the movie is very schmaltzy (and I want to know how close to a true story it really is - it ends with a big string of coincidences). It also really makes it look the the tsunami only really effected white people. BUT it wasn't too difficult a watch. The actual tsunami is really well done, and I liked the cinematography.

Naomi Watts both suffers and is a beautiful woman who 'uglies up' so that explains the nomination. ;P

In the end, I wouldn't really recommend the film, but it's also not too bad.
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Re: What was the last movie you watched?
« Reply #12292 on: January 17, 2013, 10:21:33 PM »
I haven't paid much attention to the Razzies. I guess I will even less so now.


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Re: What was the last movie you watched?
« Reply #12293 on: January 18, 2013, 12:54:24 AM »
Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home (directed by Leonard Nimoy) has long been a favorite of fans, but I've never really liked it. This puts me in the position of questioning the paradigm that it's the even numbered Star Trek movies that are good, but there it is. It's a film of dramatic tonal shifts and goofy images. I'm thinking specifically of the weird, psychedelic sequence that plays during the time warp scene, prehistoric computer graphics and all. I'm thinking of the goofball presentation of Spock, recovering from his ordeal over the previous two films, as some kind of hippie. I'm thinking of the grim trial scene that opens the movie, in which the Klingon deliver their grievances against Kirk to the Federation, complete with footage from the previous installment. I'm thinking about James Horner's opening fanfare that sounds vaguely like Christmas music.

It's a goofy movie.

Trek IV is basically a comedy. The plot follows the crew of the Enterprise as they pilot the Klingon Bird of Prey they commandeered in the previous movie back in time to contemporary (in 1986) San Francisco in order to find a pair of humpback whales. The whales are needed to answer one of the series' patented unfathomably powerful probes that is in the process of destroying 23rd Century Earth, where whales are extinct. The thrust of this is to put the familiar characters in a fish out of water, stranger in a strange land setting in which the jokes are predicated on the subsequent anachronisms. It's pretty middlebrow stuff, without any real tooth as social commentary. It's undercut a bit by the earnestness of its save the whales message. It's undercut, too, by an uncomfortable cluelessness on the part of a few our crew mates. Elements of the plot are predicated on the characters' ignorance of history. This is particularly true of Chekov's jaunt at the naval base, looking for "nuclear wessels." Surely, the Cold War hasn't been forgotten in the 23rd century.

I have to admit: it's a little bit odd to see a film as late as 1986 still villifying punk rock, but I guess this is at the cusp right before rap and hip hop would assume the role of obnoxious noise for middle class white America. I wish Catherine Hicks's character, Gillian, would have made the jump that Kirk and Spock are gay--a not-unreasonable conclusion given the film's setting. You can totally see the wheels turning in the mind of the actress even if they aren't in the minds of the screenwriters, but it's an undiscovered country (hey, see what I did there, Trek nerds?) here. It leaves a lot of comedy potential on the table by ignoring this option, which is too bad.

The movie goes out of its way to spotlight each of the crew members with some variety of schtick. Some of these fall flat. Most of these fall flat, actually. A lot of it is tailored to Star Trek fans and is the sort of thing that winds up on buttons sold at sci-fi cons ("Gillian: Don't tell me, you're from outer space. Kirk: No, I'm from Iowa. I only work in outer space," is a perennial favorite). Some of this is funny, most of it is... awkward, which pretty much describes my relationship with this movie.




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Re: What was the last movie you watched?
« Reply #12294 on: January 18, 2013, 04:11:00 AM »
Last night we went to an even a local independent cinema does once a month whereby they sell $5.00 tickets to a movie the title of which remains secret until the film begins. Last night the film was Vertigo.

This was the third time I've seen it and the first for Ann. I'm even more convinced that what Madeleine is really possessed by is the Spirit of the California Tourist Board (Bay Area Division).


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Re: What was the last movie you watched?
« Reply #12295 on: January 18, 2013, 07:42:02 AM »
It's undercut, too, by an uncomfortable cluelessness on the part of a few our crew mates. Elements of the plot are predicated on the characters' ignorance of history. This is particularly true of Chekov's jaunt at the naval base, looking for "nuclear wessels." Surely, the Cold War hasn't been forgotten in the 23rd century.

Not forgotten, but humanity has a bunch more wars and a lot of detailed information was lost during those.  Look at how people were living during First Contact or that DS9 episode where they go back in time.


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Re: What was the last movie you watched?
« Reply #12296 on: January 18, 2013, 07:54:22 AM »

Quick rundown -

The Car - A poor mixture of two Spielberg films, Duel and Jaws.  A car terrorises a small community in Nevada, and it's up to the Sheriff (James Brolin) to stop it, though the Car may not be all that it seems.  It's not terribly exciting, nor does it have good characters either. 

The End - Burt Reynolds directs and stars in this black comedy about a man who decides to kill himself when he discovers he has a terminal illness.  Lampooning all the shitty Love Story movies that were popular at the time, it's fantastic for about an hour, and then Dom DeLuise shows up and it loses all of its smartness in favour of slapstick gags and awful mugging. 

Cave of Forgotten Dreams - Werner Herzog documentary about a recently discovered cave with some of the earliest cave paintings known to man.  It's quite beautiful, with some amazing moments, such as when they're told that the difference in age of some of the paintings is 5,000 years.


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Re: What was the last movie you watched?
« Reply #12297 on: January 18, 2013, 08:06:02 AM »
Cave of Forgotten Dreams - Werner Herzog documentary about a recently discovered cave with some of the earliest cave paintings known to man.  It's quite beautiful, with some amazing moments, such as when they're told that the difference in age of some of the paintings is 5,000 years.

Try to watch this in 3D sometime, the way they used the shape of the cave walls adds an extra level of amazement when viewing the cave drawings.


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Re: What was the last movie you watched?
« Reply #12298 on: January 18, 2013, 04:06:33 PM »
It's undercut, too, by an uncomfortable cluelessness on the part of a few our crew mates. Elements of the plot are predicated on the characters' ignorance of history. This is particularly true of Chekov's jaunt at the naval base, looking for "nuclear wessels." Surely, the Cold War hasn't been forgotten in the 23rd century.

Not forgotten, but humanity has a bunch more wars and a lot of detailed information was lost during those.  Look at how people were living during First Contact or that DS9 episode where they go back in time.
Point taken. Thanks for enlightening me.
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Re: What was the last movie you watched?
« Reply #12299 on: January 18, 2013, 04:19:24 PM »
It's undercut, too, by an uncomfortable cluelessness on the part of a few our crew mates. Elements of the plot are predicated on the characters' ignorance of history. This is particularly true of Chekov's jaunt at the naval base, looking for "nuclear wessels." Surely, the Cold War hasn't been forgotten in the 23rd century.
It's also 300 some years in the future. How conversant are you with early 1700s American history?  Now how about Russian?
As a matter of fact, I, well, not particularly. Damnit.

I'm moderately well versed in Russian cinema (for a non-Russian), if that matters at all.
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