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Re: the indie pop thread!
« Reply #30 on: August 16, 2007, 01:07:40 AM »
(Is it just me, or is Shirley Manson like a 7 or 8 out of 10 on the skank-o-meter?)

Wow, that's a little harsh, isn't it?

Well, 7 still keeps here far out of Courtney Love territory. And the skank-o-meter is based on more than just appearance.

Grotty

This is an example of what I like to call slant onamotopeia - a word that somehow sounds like what it describes despite describing an image or feeling, rather than sound. There's probably a more precise term for that, come to think of it... TripeHound?


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Re: the indie pop thread!
« Reply #31 on: August 16, 2007, 05:20:39 AM »
Grotty
This is an example of what I like to call slant onamotopeia - a word that somehow sounds like what it describes despite describing an image or feeling, rather than sound. There's probably a more precise term for that, come to think of it... TripeHound?

Ah phonosemantics, always fun and a pretty significant part of language. I think what you are looking for when thinking of the term is Ideophone.

"Grotty is an ideophone, or and ideophonic word"

Ideophones are words that fall under the aegis of phonosemantics that aren't onomatopoeia.

God do I know some obscure bollocks or what?


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Re: the indie pop thread!
« Reply #32 on: August 16, 2007, 06:33:43 AM »
ive actually heard the term "grotty" before.  Its usually a slang term that teenage girls use, or at least that's who i've heard using it.

my personal favorite is fugly


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Re: the indie pop thread!
« Reply #33 on: August 16, 2007, 06:41:15 AM »
Actually when it comes to slang terms of opprobrium my favorite is still minging
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Re: the indie pop thread!
« Reply #34 on: August 16, 2007, 06:44:14 AM »
So is grotty pronounced "grow-tee" or "graw-tee"?  Because I have heard girls say "grow-tee".
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Re: the indie pop thread!
« Reply #35 on: August 16, 2007, 06:45:12 AM »
ive heard it pronounced "grow-dee".

and its spelled :Grody or Groady.
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Re: the indie pop thread!
« Reply #36 on: August 16, 2007, 06:52:37 AM »
Grot-ty


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Re: the indie pop thread!
« Reply #37 on: August 16, 2007, 07:33:41 AM »
Interesting. I wonder if grotty and grody are in fact the same word?

I like skeevy, myself.


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Re: the indie pop thread!
« Reply #38 on: August 16, 2007, 07:36:56 AM »
Interesting. I wonder if grotty and grody are in fact the same word?

I like skeevy, myself.

well, im from The South, and the southern dialect is derived from english settlers, so that might have something to do with it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_American_English


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Re: the indie pop thread!
« Reply #39 on: August 16, 2007, 07:42:12 AM »
I think they probably are. Also and this will come as a shock, I  have some doubts about the etymology given by the Wiktionary page. The use of "Gross" as a negative seems to postdate A Hard Days Night in which Grotty is used so it would be odd to have a portmanteau word made up of a word that didn't have currency when Grotty was already being used.

I'll stop now because I feel my long dormant Linguistics glands revving up, a bit like Worf's poison sacks in Genesis


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Re: the indie pop thread!
« Reply #40 on: August 16, 2007, 07:47:27 AM »
I think they probably are. Also and this will come as a shock, I  have some doubts about the etymology given by the Wiktionary page. The use of "Gross" as a negative seems to postdate A Hard Days Night in which Grotty is used so it would be odd to have a portmanteau word made up of a word that didn't have currency when Grotty was already being used.

I'll stop now because I feel my long dormant Linguistics glands revving up, a bit like Worf's poison sacks in Genesis

Hmm. Now you've got me wondering when the use of gross for unpleasant first came into widespread use. I have a feeling we'd get along swimmingly discussing etymology over a pint, THR. Wait, I can't call you THR - that's the initials of my crummy local newspaper.


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Re: the indie pop thread!
« Reply #41 on: August 16, 2007, 07:49:29 AM »
Times Herald Register?


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Re: the indie pop thread!
« Reply #42 on: August 16, 2007, 07:52:55 AM »
Close, but you don't win the giant plush cow. Can you guess the names of three independent papers that eventually conglomerated into the Times Herald-Record;)


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Re: the indie pop thread!
« Reply #43 on: August 16, 2007, 08:05:51 AM »
Ah, well there's only so many names for papers out there.

My home town has an Observer, a Herald and a Journal(who aparently don't have the inclination to create a website ::)). I lobbied for a Picayune but it was a nonstarter  :D


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Re: the indie pop thread!
« Reply #44 on: August 16, 2007, 08:08:20 AM »
You don't want to see my hometown newspaper's website. Unless you get some perverse thrill observing the decline of American regional journalism.

Oh my glod. There's an ad on homepage declaring WIN FREE SOCKS!  :scared: