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Offline Nunyerbiz

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Re: Thoughts & Favorite Lines
« Reply #60 on: July 17, 2007, 08:35:20 AM »
Yea, this one is easily on the heels of "Final Frontier" for worst Trek movie featuring TOS members. Now I remember why I haven't revisited it since the theatrical run fifteen years ago or however long it's been. Your Trek movie is probably in bad shape when Nimoy turns down a paycheck. Take a run-of-mill script meant for a TNG episode, cobbled together with a goofy Kirk subplot at the beginning and the end and you have Generations. With the exception of the occasional redeeming scene from Stewart, this one is chuck full of TV actors reading TV lines from a hackneyed TV script. Well, I guess it's like most Trek movies in that regard... but... The TNG crew either seemed more relaxed on the small screen or perhaps the small screen hid their flaws... but wow... they just don't translate to the big screen. Say what you will about the Shat... but him and Nimoy could carry a Trek film... Stewart saddled with Frakes.? ummm... yea... maybe not.

The rifftrax started out great. They already went to the well as far as riffing the TOS cast member opening credits on STV and without much to really say about the not nearly as iconic TNG cast members, Mike's little "kids do the darndest things" opener was pretty amusing. The riffing during the opening "Kirk" subplot was spot on and had me laughing out loud a number of times and they kept things up right into the annoying "Data with the emotion chip" segments. I thought the riffing was somewhat up and down from there, but still consistently funny when they stuck to the movie...  This might not feature as many laugh out loud zingers as Final Frontier had, but it's a very solid effort. While I wouldn't say I'd be looking forward to every last Trek film getting the treatment, it's the third time around and they probably equalled or maybe slightly outdid the three man booth from Undiscovered Country. 7.5/10

Typical Nunyerbiz complaint #1: Maybe it was just because I hadn't seen the movie in forever, but they seemed to do a LOT of walking over dialouge. At some level, I'm trying to watch the movie... and it's always at least a minor annoyance when the guys seem to forget that the movies are the reason they have this gig to begin with. I prefer when they work with the movie and not in spite of it. Filling dead space is fine, but even if the plot is goofy and asinine, that's something I want to discover for myself and it's tough to do when stand-up bits are drowning out the characters.
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Re: Thoughts & Favorite Lines
« Reply #61 on: July 17, 2007, 12:29:26 PM »
Favorite lines: "Did Scotty just say 'Bacon's free'?" "No, but you can be sure he thought it over and over."

Data, you big hunk of studly.

During Data's laughing, Kevin saying "Ow, my soul."

McDowell's WHaaahY?

Oh great, and that was planet Picard.

Yeah! He won a hat! Yeah!!!!!
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Re: Thoughts & Favorite Lines
« Reply #62 on: July 19, 2007, 04:54:59 AM »
I liked it alot of course, but the part of the riff where Mike and Kevin start doing the noises (click....whirrrr....buzz, etc) was down right unfunny and irritates the hell outta me every time I hear it.  :angry:


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Re: Thoughts & Favorite Lines
« Reply #63 on: July 19, 2007, 02:45:48 PM »
Reyuhreyuhreyuh, click, buzz.  :D


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Re: Thoughts & Favorite Lines
« Reply #64 on: July 21, 2007, 03:01:29 PM »
Anybody notice the Comm officer on the earlier Enterprise played John Connor's Aunt in T2?  Maybe the liquid metal Terminator survived as a female and is biding it time to lead a machine revolt across the Galaxy!  Oh wait that was the Borg wasn't it?

The Borg vs Skynet, now THAT would be a cool movie!


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Re: Thoughts & Favorite Lines
« Reply #65 on: July 21, 2007, 03:10:14 PM »
Anybody notice the Comm officer on the earlier Enterprise played John Connor's Aunt in T2?  Maybe the liquid metal Terminator survived as a female and is biding it time to lead a machine revolt across the Galaxy!  Oh wait that was the Borg wasn't it?

i think she played the Faux mexican marine in Aliens too....Jeanette Goldstein......and, no, i dont have a life....


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Re: Thoughts & Favorite Lines
« Reply #66 on: July 21, 2007, 06:01:22 PM »
Anybody notice the Comm officer on the earlier Enterprise played John Connor's Aunt in T2?  Maybe the liquid metal Terminator survived as a female and is biding it time to lead a machine revolt across the Galaxy!  Oh wait that was the Borg wasn't it?

The Borg vs Skynet, now THAT would be a cool movie!

Are you kidding? It would just be two computers, wirring at each other through a wireless modem!


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Re: Thoughts & Favorite Lines
« Reply #67 on: July 21, 2007, 07:47:58 PM »
Anybody notice the Comm officer on the earlier Enterprise played John Connor's Aunt in T2?  Maybe the liquid metal Terminator survived as a female and is biding it time to lead a machine revolt across the Galaxy!  Oh wait that was the Borg wasn't it?

The Borg vs Skynet, now THAT would be a cool movie!

Are you kidding? It would just be two computers, wirring at each other through a wireless modem!

Maybe in YOUR version.  Mine would be T-100s blowing the crap out of an invading army of The Borg while humans cowered under mountains of skulls!


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Re: Thoughts & Favorite Lines
« Reply #68 on: July 21, 2007, 09:02:24 PM »
Set them against the Matrix, and you've got a movie.


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Re: Thoughts & Favorite Lines
« Reply #69 on: July 21, 2007, 11:31:03 PM »
If Kristanna Loken reprised her role as the Terminatrix and she wirred through a modem I'd be willing to watch.

Im not ashamed to say that id be willing to watch Loken doing nothing but playing jacks on a street corner.....id still be game for it.


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Re: Thoughts & Favorite Lines
« Reply #70 on: July 29, 2007, 10:20:55 PM »
Dr. Soran: Have you ever considered a prosthesis that would make you more, um...
Mike: [as Soran] ...Spikey and English?

Dr. Soran: I must return to my observatory at once.
Mike: [as Soran] I need to become more English.

[about life aboard 18th century ships]
Riker: Bad food, brutal discipline. And no women.
Mike: [as Picard] Oh, sounds perfect!


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Re: Thoughts & Favorite Lines
« Reply #71 on: July 29, 2007, 10:31:42 PM »
A small tidbit for everyone.  Generations was filmed on pretty much a shoe string budget.  They were so tight for cash that they actually had to reuse special effects from Star Trek 6 to get the movie made.  The explosion of the Klingon ship, for example, is the same one from 6.

I know.  And god knows...they make so little money on this franchise.....   


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Re: Thoughts & Favorite Lines
« Reply #72 on: July 30, 2007, 08:16:06 PM »
A small tidbit for everyone.  Generations was filmed on pretty much a shoe string budget.  They were so tight for cash that they actually had to reuse special effects from Star Trek 6 to get the movie made.  The explosion of the Klingon ship, for example, is the same one from 6.

I know.  And god knows...they make so little money on this franchise.....   
Apparently exploiting a shrinking fanbase for forty years results in seriously diminishing returns.  Who would have guessed?


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Re: Thoughts & Favorite Lines
« Reply #73 on: July 30, 2007, 08:36:32 PM »
I for one loved Enterprise.  I don't know why it was cancelled.  Scott Bakula was a great captain, and I still want to fuck T-Pal.
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Re: Thoughts & Favorite Lines
« Reply #74 on: July 30, 2007, 08:46:41 PM »
A small tidbit for everyone.  Generations was filmed on pretty much a shoe string budget.  They were so tight for cash that they actually had to reuse special effects from Star Trek 6 to get the movie made.  The explosion of the Klingon ship, for example, is the same one from 6.

I know.  And god knows...they make so little money on this franchise.....   
Apparently exploiting a shrinking fanbase for forty years results in seriously diminishing returns.  Who would have guessed?

And you spend years telling people what losers they are and to "get a life"....and then one day you look around and they took your advice and they're gone.  Wonder why that happened?

The franchise was still at it's height when Generations was made.  In fact, this film and those that followed along with the remaining TV shows is what caused the decline.

And it's not like this is the first film where SFX were recycled.  With the exception of the first film, every Original Series film has had at least one shot from a movie before it.

It's late and I'm tired but these are the ones that come to mind right now...

- ST: Wrath of Khan - The Enterprise-in-drydock footage and the space station (turned upside down) from ST:The Motion Sickness

- ST: Search For Spock - The Genesis footage and there's something else that's slipping my mind at the moment.

- ST: The Voyage Home - the Klingon Warbird footage

In fact, that used to be the joke between my Trek fan friends and I when the new movie came out at the time - Spot the Recycled SFX.   There was always at least one.

Paramount has always treated Trek fans like crap.  Throwing them scraps.  The reason there wasn't a movie before Star Wars hit was that  they figured they were making plenty of money with no investment off the OS so why bother?  And the problem was that there was enough rabid fans at the time that would put up with it.

But between the constant insults of bad tv series, bad movies, slaps in the face like Trekkies....and more alternatives like "B5", "SG-1", whatever - finally took it's toll.   A well-deserved toll.  However, Paramount still doesn't realize it.

That's why I'm not looking forward to the new movie.  They haven't learned their lession, yet.
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