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Offline Ortega

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all right here lies my tale of woe,

    After reading superdragons great guide to re authoring, i gave it a try with LOTR, and it was a piece of cake.  the i proceeded to do my entire catalog of rifftrax.  after about 3more(SW1, SW2, Matrix)  i hit a wall.   I tried ST6 and that where the trouble started.  there was serious audio issues with the video, the video was behind the audio.  i tried it with casino royale, and thats were i got really mad.   the weird thing is, when i made a straight backup of casinoroyale with no menus and the non-riff audio.....it turned out perfect, but the riiftrax version was off and every one I've made since then has had the same problem.   Willy wonka, star trek 6, and most recently Aeon flux.    now, I'm running a Vista PC, so I'm wondering if that has anything to do with it.   I've tried saving all the files on an external HD, and not saving anything to the C Drive, but i still have the same problem.       I'm going to trying wipe the slate clean and delete the tools and download them again, and start again.    I'm wondering if my situation is unique or if other people are having the same difficulties. 

my steps are.
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DVD decrypter, or DVD Fabdecryptor for the ACROSS protected discs

2 delaycut

3 px3convert

4 Audacity

5 ffmepgui

6 IFO edit or rejig

7 DVD Shrink


i know i can make them, but this problem has been a chronic problem of the past 5 days now.

any help would be much appreciated


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Ortega, make sure when you synch up the audio that you don't accidentally move the movie audio track with the time-shift tool. Synch up the Rifftrax audio with the movie like usual, but make sure the movie audio track starts at 0:00 on the timeline. It's a little thing that can cause the whole audio to be off track. I had that problem happen with a track once, and I somehow moved the track forward a second or so. Anyway, good luck.

I also have another question for Superdragon: if you run Delaycut, and the message reads that the track is off by "0ms" does that mean you don't have to fix it? I want to know if I can skip a step if it's like that.

Also, I have had some problems with getting the audio levels right, it always seems like the audio sounds fine with Audacity, but after the burn, the Rifftrack is always too loud, or rather the movie audio is too soft. I noticed the Px3convert program "normalizes" the audio track when it converts it, do you uncheck that box for better results?


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A nice and simple question for once.

I was constructing a DVD last night, and while on the Audacity stage, I turned up the DB as the movie track was a bit too soft. And since I did that, I then turned up the Rifftrax volume as well. Unfortunately, I think that I turned them both up a bit too much as now Kevin has an annoying reverb in his voice whenever he speaks. Can I just drop the merged wav file back into Audacity and turn it down that way, or do I need to remix the two tracks again?

After that, I just need repeat all those steps, correct? There aren't any shortcuts to just create the Audio TS, right?


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i'm going to make a copy of a movie ive alreday done without the rifftrax to see if its the synching that causing the problems.....hopefully i'll get to the bottom of the problem.




EDIT :  That part worked, it seems when i go to the AC3 to Wav Conversion stage i where the problem starts.   i got my elementary streams and used delaycut on the AC3 and reauthored, and it was perfect.  But i converted it to WAV and loaded it into Audacity, but i didnt touch it, as soon as it loaded in, i exported it,then ffmepgui to get the final Ac3,  then used rejig to reauthor, and the same problem.  NO editing, no synchig, just loaded it and exported it.   im going to try goldwave to edit and see how that works(arrgh.....i hate its interface).   im just happy this was a software problem and not a hardware problem.   I havent even got to watch the Aeon flux rifftrax yet, guess i have to watch it the old fashioned way till i can correct my problem.  im wondering if its a problem with px3convert?
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i stayed up unti the wee hours of the morning, but i was successful!    I used Goldwave tho edit and synch the riff, and it came out perfect.  the audio levels were a little off, but at least the video was FINALLY in synch.    a big thanks to rolypolyman's goldwave guide.   i dont know why Audacity was producing bad WAVs, even though i've made good copies before.   oh, well.....at least im finally over this wall.


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First of all, thanks to Super Dragon and the rest of the guys in this thread - I've been trying to figure out how to add Rifftrax audio tracks to DVDs for months now, and stumbling accross this thread has been a godsend.

One little problem I've run into (and I apologize if this has been covered, but I wasn't able to find it anywhere) - on my completed backup DVD, it's playable and the Rifftrax audio works fine, but I get JUST the movie - No menus, no bonus stuff, nothing.  You put the DVD in the player, and it goes directly to playing the movie.

Is there some simple option I'm forgetting to check off on either the ripping or burning process, or is it more involved than that?

Thanks guys.


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all your doing is making the movie.  if you want bonus features or menus,  after the authoring stage, if you want all the fancy bells and whistles,  take the folder that contains the authored movie and use Nero or Roxio and make a new DVD, those kind of programs have menus and all that stuff.  Personally,  i like the barebones DVD.  no fuss, no muss, just pure Rifftrax.


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I tried the mac version of mixing the RiffTrax audio with the movie and I believe it to be flawed.  What you end up with is a file that has been compressed, decompressed, compressed, and messed with so much that the video gets totally destroyed.  The problem is that you need to be using the .VOB files that get from using MacTheRipper but instead of compressing them into a .Mp4 file, use ffmpegX to DEMUX (split the digital audio file from the digital video file).  What you will get by doing this is a clean video section and a clean audio section.  The audio will be an .AC3 file that you can combine with the RiffTrax file in Audacity.  Then when you have the audio files combined and how you like them, convert the .mp3 you got in Audacity back to an .AC3 file.  Then MUX the digital audio back together with the video file you DEMUXed.  You should end up with a .VOB file that you can burn to a dvd in 10 minutes.  The video will be perfect and the audio will be perfect.  I use toast titanium 7 to burn DVD's.
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Sorry to hear about the mac version. I just did the pc version, and the mods added that mac link to my post, so there really isn't anything I can do about it, except make an amendment to the first to point to this post.


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Has anybody tried burning their rifftraxed movies to a dual-layer disc instead of a single-layer disc, thus eliminating the need to reduce the video quality?  It'd be nice if this would work, although I've read that sometimes when you modify a backup of a DVD (in our case, adding the rifftrax) the new DVD will die at the layer change (about halfway through the movie).  Can anyone confirm or deny this, or give any tips on burning to a dual-layer disc?


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My burner is dual-layer capable, but I have never found a reason to use a 2 layer discs. I often compare the shrunken movies to the originals, and you know what, on my 57" HD Screen, I can't tell a single difference. That's why I just get 100 packs of DVD-Rs for $20.


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Yeah, I've got tons of blank single-layer DVDs.  But I also have a few dual-layers, so if there was some hope of success, I wanted to try it.  And if no one else has tried, perhaps I'll be the first........

The big question in my mind is when you create the DL DVD, where does the split go?  I've noticed in commercial DVDs they put the split between chapters, hopefully in an inconspicuous place since there's a noticeable pause.  But if you're burning your own, does the software let you adjust where the split goes?  Or if you've got a DVD image, is the location of the split part of the image?


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The Split? I don't believe there is a split for DL DVDs. Just burn it using no compression in DVD Shrink. Either that, or burn it w/ DVD fab decrypter in the DVD9 setting.


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If you are taking the DVD down to the elementary streams (m2v and ac3) and then building your own DVDs (with or without menus) then making DL discs shouldn't be a problem. If you are editing your IFOs and your BUPs and what all then you might run into problems. All the DVD software I have used (DVD LAB and ENCORE) have settings to assign the layer break or to have the program do it for you.

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