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Re: Thoughts?
« Reply #30 on: September 24, 2006, 05:14:05 AM »

They did take the tasteful way out with the opening scenes, I'm sure Zachsmind would be proud.

Yeah.  :D I wondered how they were going to manage there. They handled it really well, in my opinion.

That "Marvel fans' heart rates doubled" was a riot.  ;D

Also "CGI-yi-yi-yi!"

"I out-Britished him by a mile."

"Eatbirdo!"

They really lost an opportunity, though, by failing to comment on Anna Paquin's now-you-hear-it-now-you-don't Southern accent. That would have been a hundred times funnier than references to Hugh Jackman starring on Broadway, I think.
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Re: Thoughts?
« Reply #31 on: September 24, 2006, 06:02:04 AM »
For those that didnt think this was funny, you're not alone. I thought this rifftrax was of the same caliber as xXx; it was ok. But thats what I was expecting before going into it.

Like I've said before, I think the movies that work with rifftrax are the ones that are cheesy/bad to begin with...like Road House, Cocktail, Crossroads.

I bet Top Gun will be funier then Xmen because its much more cheesier.


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Re: Thoughts?
« Reply #32 on: September 24, 2006, 07:12:56 AM »
  No, no, I'm not saying I didn't like it, but this is the first time they've done a movie that I liked and that does make it harder  to appreciate the funny.  I'm well aware of the plot holes in super-hero movies but that really doesn't make them any different than any other type of movie.
   As a couple of examples, look at the current movie "Little Miss Sunshine"  I thought it was excellent, but you have to accept that the parents were clueless as to Olive's routine for the pagaent plus you have to accept that the son had gone several years with never a hint of being color-blind.  (I'm trying not to make these "spoilers.")  I think of both of these plot-points as being as far-fetched as Mystique's shape-shifting abilities and just want to point out how most movies demand some degree of "suspension of disbelief."  I suppose this just means that I'm being as defensive about this movie as any Fangoria reader taking offense at jokes about "Attack of the Giant Leeches."  So sue me.

Attack of the Giant Leeches is one of the BEST horror films made in it's time! How dare you offend the Fango crowd!


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Re: Thoughts?
« Reply #33 on: September 24, 2006, 08:44:50 AM »
I guess it worked to my advantage that I'm not a comics reader, although a friend of mine invites me to a lot of comic book movies, so I've seen my fair share.

Maybe Mike should try his hand at Daredevil or Hulk --- from what I hear, comics readers and non-comics readers alike hated those! (And think of the Ben Affleck jokes in the first scenario!)
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Re: Thoughts?
« Reply #34 on: September 24, 2006, 09:26:03 AM »
Well the hulk bored me to death. So It could deffently could use some improvement. As for Daredevil. The original cut of the movies wasnt anything good. So if mike wants to. But the Directors cut was pretty good. I mean the Directors cut is almost a totally different movie. But dont forget Batman & Robin, Superman 3&4, The Phantom,  89 Punisher. But anyways your probably right. Being a non-reader probably helps. I did find the jokes funny and i probably would have find them more funny if i didnt read comics. Its just alot of the jokes where pointed-out the obvious. You know, the names, the costumes, the powers. For a comic fan, We know all this stuff is silly. We just look past it. Im not saying its bad and it was funny. Maybe it just wasnt that funny for me.
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Re: Thoughts?
« Reply #35 on: September 24, 2006, 09:31:26 AM »
As for Daredevil. The original cut of the movies wasnt anything great. So if mike wants to. But the Directors cut was pretty good.

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Re: Thoughts?
« Reply #36 on: September 24, 2006, 09:36:44 AM »
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Re: Thoughts?
« Reply #37 on: September 24, 2006, 09:40:55 AM »
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Re: Thoughts?
« Reply #38 on: September 24, 2006, 09:43:00 AM »
he took the movie out for a night of dinner and dancing in down town san antonio.  They had a lovely evening at the local dueling piano bar, howl at the moon, and then they both went and got blasted at the hard rock cafe, they both admit the rest of the night was a "blur" and niether one of them are quite sure how they found themselves alone in a hotel room the next morning covered in ice cream toppings.  They try to think of that night as little as possible.


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Re: Thoughts?
« Reply #39 on: September 24, 2006, 09:46:48 AM »
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Re: Thoughts?
« Reply #40 on: September 24, 2006, 10:44:01 AM »
Liked it.  Hearing Bill Corbett was a real treat.  Not my favorite, but there were some real laughs.  It is hard to riff a movie that is so well directed.  Really, you can have problems with the writing and some of the performances but Singer is a great director.  There were times when I was so caught up in the movie that I missed some of the riffing and that never happened to me with the others.

The bottom line is, Bill was great, Mike was great; I would have really liked to hear some Disembaudio interaction but it was very cool, all around.  I can't wait for Top Gun!

(Oh, and the MST3K references in the beginning were well worth the price of admission!)
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Re: Thoughts?
« Reply #41 on: September 24, 2006, 12:22:50 PM »
The Cerebro/Magneto gag followed a long tradition of silly running gags in MST history.

To quote Garfield (The cat) from his hit saturday morning cartoon show, "If a joke isn't funny, just repeat it over and over again. Then it becomes a running gag!" :^)


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Re: Thoughts?
« Reply #42 on: September 24, 2006, 01:01:15 PM »
I'm an unashamed comics reader (and writer, now that my Starship Troopers strip's been published). I don't read much in the way of superhero stuff, but I certainly don't shy away from it just because it can be silly at times. Garth Ennis' "Punisher" and "The Boys" are on my monthly list, as is Warren Ellis' hilarious "Nextwave".

None of that damages my enjoyment of a good Rifftrax, though. There have been some awful movie adaptations of comics, and they deserve no softer treatment than Cocktail or Crossroads (I'd definitely throw in a vote for "Hulk" getting the Rifftrax treatment). However, there have also been some quite extraordinary ones ("Sin City" and "A History of Violence" spring to mind). I guess I'm a little saddened that there are people who will go and see a "comics movie" who would never even consider reading a comic - as if the adaptation process somehow legitimises the material for them. That, I think, is a great shame. On the other hand, anything that raises the profile of the medium is ultimately a good thing. If one viewer walks into a comics shop after seeing an adaptation then I'd mark that in the "Win" column.

Sorry - rambling a bit. Back on topic: I think X-Men was basically a well made film, with enough points of contact with the source material to satisfy the comics crowd without totally alienating the outsiders. These same factors made it, for me, a decent candidate for a Rifftrax. As others have pointed out, much of Mike and Bill's humour played on factors that most comics-literate viewers have lived with for decades - but once in a while I like to see how things look from the outside.

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Re: Thoughts?
« Reply #43 on: September 24, 2006, 06:19:58 PM »
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The Cerebro/Magneto gag followed a long tradition of silly running gags in MST history.

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I guess I'm a little saddened that there are people who will go and see a "comics movie" who would never even consider reading a comic - as if the adaptation process somehow legitimises the material for them.

I wouldn't have put it like that, exactly. I may not read comics, but I don't consider that they need legitimizing. I'm perfectly fine with their existence and the fact that they have lots of fans; I just don't happen to be all that interested in them personally. Just like I'm fine with the existence of football, but you're not going to see me sitting down to watch a game. I am interested in movies, so I go and see all different kinds.
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Re: Thoughts?
« Reply #44 on: September 25, 2006, 01:43:43 AM »
I wouldn't have put it like that, exactly. I may not read comics, but I don't consider that they need legitimizing. I'm perfectly fine with their existence and the fact that they have lots of fans; I just don't happen to be all that interested in them personally. Just like I'm fine with the existence of football, but you're not going to see me sitting down to watch a game. I am interested in movies, so I go and see all different kinds.

You make an entirely valid point, and (in case it wasn't obvious) I in no way meant to criticise non-comics readers.

I was refering in a more general sense to what I feel is the misconception of comics as an intrinsically inferior medium. To me, sequential art is a powerful and often beautiful form, equally capable of narrative and non-narrative expression, and with far greater artistic potential than is often appreciated. What saddens me is that the perceived artistic status of the medium can act as a barrier discouraging people from testing the water. I guess the insular nature of the industry itself is partly to blame for this. We have our own specialist stores, little mainstream visibility and, in the minds of the wider public, a single dominant genre. It's almost as if we're afraid to be taken seriously. Personally, I'd like to see comics reduce their dependence on the superhero genre and continue to diversify and widen their appeal - which is why I have no objection to "sharing" superheroes with other media.

Cheers,

Cy.