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Re: List of Crap #117: Top 50 Villains 2: Freddy's Revenge
« Reply #60 on: June 27, 2019, 01:36:14 PM »
Yeah Cigarette Smoking Man is bad ass. That guy has done some very effed up things, mostly murder.


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Re: List of Crap #117: Top 50 Villains 2: Freddy's Revenge
« Reply #61 on: June 27, 2019, 02:57:18 PM »
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Unicron

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Unicron is a villain in the Transformers franchise.  A mammoth robot the size of a planet who devours worlds and intends to destroy the Matrix of Leadership, which he knows is capable of destroying him.  To do this he finds the body of the dying Megatron and repairs and improves him, dubbing him Galvatron and forcing him into servitude.  Eventually, Unicron was destroyed, save for his head, which proceeded to orbit around Cybertron, the Transformer homeworld.  Though never a physical threat again, Unicron’s data has been accessed and he even made deals with other transformers for power.

Eventually, Unicron’s origin is revealed: created near the dawn of time by an ancient entity looking to destroy and re-create the universe in his image, Unicron turned on his master, deciding he could do it without him.  Unicron is the largest transformer, the size of a planet and more powerful than any other transformer.  Every incarnation (movies, TV, etc.) tells us that he is an ancient being of supreme power.

Unicron was initially voiced by Orson Welles in his last screen role.  The character is really the transformers concept taken to it’s sort of logical extreme, considering so many other machines and animals are seen to be transformers.  For toy fans, it took a long time for a Unicron toy to be released with two false starts (the first one due to cost concerns) before finally being released in 2003 and many having been released since.  As you might imagine, none are “to scale”.

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Unicron's original name in early drafts was Ingestor, while Unicron's planet form would have been an actual planet. Ingestor was to be a mysterious being in control of the planet, which, upon transforming into a robot, would have had many organic-looking features, including long hair. In the final script, these two were mushed together into a single character, named Unicron, who is also a planet (though a mechanical one) which can turn into a gigantic robot. Many of his organic features were kept-- such as his metallic mustache, goatee, and stomach (which resembles the abdominal muscles of a human)-- however he lost his "hair".


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Re: List of Crap #117: Top 50 Villains 2: Freddy's Revenge
« Reply #62 on: June 27, 2019, 06:58:12 PM »
Yeah... even the Cigarette Smoking Man would have a difficult time dealing with Unicron.


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Re: List of Crap #117: Top 50 Villains 2: Freddy's Revenge
« Reply #63 on: June 27, 2019, 07:25:48 PM »
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Pearl Forrester

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Pearl Forrester is the villain and main “mad” for seasons 8-10 of the TV series Mystery Science Theater 3000. She was introduced in season 6 as Dr. Clayton Forrester’s awful mother and became co-mad in season 7.  The mother of mad scientist Dr. Clayton Forrester, she is often cold and emotionally abusive to his son, which he tends to return in kind.  She did, however, get on very well with Forrester’s assistant TV’s Frank. When Frank left, Pearl decided to stay with Clayton to look after him and after he was reborn as a child after encountering the worst movie ever, she decided to raise him “right” this time.  Considering she smothered him with a pillow, this apparently went poorly.

Over 525 years later, Pearl was awakened from cryogenic sleep and eventually became the queen of a world where apes evolved from men and continued her sons experiment to torment the crew of the Satellite of Love the same way her son did… by showing them very bad movies.  As sidekicks, Pearl gained Professor Bobo, an ape scientist and Brain Guy, a cosmic entity who still somehow manages to get kowtowed to Pearl despite his unlimited power.  After accidentally knocking the Satellite of Love back to Earth, she took a job as a dictator of Qatar before reteaming with her old cronies and just sort of wandering the Universe.

Played by Mary Jo Pehl, Pearl began as an overbearing mother before becoming more of a mad scientist figure.  Here, her character began to act (somewhat) younger and also crazier and quite a bit more neurotic, often driven to sadness and feelings of inferiority.  Probably the most intimidating of the mads (keeping in mind, that’s a pretty low bar), Pearl inspires true fear in her underlings, despite the fact that one of them could kill her with a thought.  Pearl loves getting to dole out pain to her underlings, often finding it cathartic from dealing with their nonsense.

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Mary Jo Pehl revealed during a convention conference that the character Pearl Forrester was loosely based on her mother.


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Re: List of Crap #117: Top 50 Villains 2: Freddy's Revenge
« Reply #64 on: June 27, 2019, 07:40:19 PM »
Yeah... even the Cigarette Smoking Man would have a difficult time dealing with Unicron.

Was... that a battle anyone here even proposed?


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Re: List of Crap #117: Top 50 Villains 2: Freddy's Revenge
« Reply #65 on: June 27, 2019, 08:05:51 PM »
I'm proposing it! I wanna see that throwdown!


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Re: List of Crap #117: Top 50 Villains 2: Freddy's Revenge
« Reply #66 on: June 27, 2019, 09:34:43 PM »
Was... that a battle anyone here even proposed?
Well, Transformers has crossed over with X-files before...


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Re: List of Crap #117: Top 50 Villains 2: Freddy's Revenge
« Reply #67 on: June 28, 2019, 03:09:14 AM »
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Baron Vladimir Harkonnen

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Baron Vladimir Harkonnen is the main antagonist in the novel Dune and the head of the House Harkonnen.  As leader of the intergalactic House, he and his family look to settle a longstanding feud with the House Atriedes, a noble House of similar standing who is has accumulated power by mining “spice” an invaluable resource, on the planet Arrakis (often known as Dune).  Harkonnen, with the aid of a mentat (a sort of human computer) named Piter De Vries, creates the downfall of the House Atriedes by blackmailing his personal physician.  Harkonnen eventually takes monopoly over Arrakis, only to be opposed by one of the few surviving Atriedes known as Paul, who has gone through a spiritual transformation and has become a freedom fighter and messianic figure.

Baron Harkonnen is extremely cunning and dangerous.  He is also extremely obese, requiring anti-gravity devices to support his weight and move around.  He is as power-hungry as he is vindictive, even being sort of glad that he initially lost control of Dune to Atriedes simply because it gave him motivation for him to destroy the family once and for all.  Harkonnen is often shown as incredibly hedonistic and cruel.  In the 1984 film, the Baron keeps plugs in the hearts of his slaves he can pull out at any time so they may watch themselves bleed to death. It is also strongly implied that the Baron has pederast tendencies towards the young boys he keeps as slaves.

As our hero Paul is a sort of freedom fighter defending the ecology of Dune, Harkonnen is a sort of industrial evil, living in luxury while his forces devour the planet.  He is decedent and though physically not particularly strong, his evil and size are very intimidating.  He is manipulative and sets up what he thinks is an unstoppable juggernaut that gives him true control of the planet and while he does technically have someone to answer to, he lives like the emperor of his own personal kingdom.  And while he is aware of the unstoppable worms that create the spice, he realizes to late that all the power he’s amassed is nothing compared to a force of pure nature.

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Frank Herbert chose the name Harkonnen after finding a very similar name in the phone book and thinking it sounded very Russian.  Actually, it is a Finnish name.


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Re: List of Crap #117: Top 50 Villains 2: Freddy's Revenge
« Reply #68 on: June 28, 2019, 07:50:04 AM »
Man there's another one I forgot to add to my list  :-[


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Re: List of Crap #117: Top 50 Villains 2: Freddy's Revenge
« Reply #69 on: June 28, 2019, 08:25:33 AM »
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Emperor Palpatine

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Emperor Sheev Palpatine (Sheev?) is a villain in the Star Wars universe.  Initially, a Senator in the Galactic Republic, Palpatine lived a double life as a Sith Lord, a master of the dark side of the Force (you know, the ancient power the binds the universe or whatever).  He manipulated events in order to give himself emergency powers to take control of the Republic, which he turned into the fascist Empire, dedicated to extending and tightening its control across the universe.  He also corrupted a young Anakin Skywalker, a promising Jedi, into becoming the inhuman Sith Lord Darth Vader.

The Emperor looks physically somewhat frail but his power and skill with the Force is incredibly strong.  However, his usage of the dark side has also given him a gaunt and pale visage.  His former students include Darth Vader, Count Dooku (teehee) and Darth Maul, all of whom were powerful force users themselves.

Though Darth Vader is the primary antagonist for the original trilogy, The Emperor is the real threat behind everything.  The real final battle in Return of the Jedi isn’t for the freedom of the universe but for the soul of Darth Vader, with The Emperor representing the seductive evil of the dark side.  Even Luke almost submits to it in nearly killing Vader.  In the end, we learn that the way to defeat the Emperor isn’t through raw power but helping each other.  The Emperor’s way is the easy way.  And that is why it can be so tempting.

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According to Ian McDiarmid, George Lucas originally cast him simply as the physical performance of the Emperor (similar to David Prowse as Darth Vader). This became evident to him when a producer told him that if he was able to get his voice close enough to Clive Revill's (who portrayed the Emperor's voice in Star Wars: Episode V - The Empire Strikes Back (1980)) Lucas would let him use his on-camera vocals in the final cut of the movie. However, McDiarmid felt he could conduct a stronger, more wicked and demonic voice for the Emperor as opposed to Revill's more aristocratic Emperor. Lucas, and even Steven Spielberg, were so impressed with his take that it ended up becoming a signature trait of the character.


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Re: List of Crap #117: Top 50 Villains 2: Freddy's Revenge
« Reply #70 on: June 28, 2019, 08:39:10 AM »
Ever since that fateful Rifftrax, I can't hear his name without adding in my head, "And your Pal, Friendpatine!"


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Re: List of Crap #117: Top 50 Villains 2: Freddy's Revenge
« Reply #71 on: June 28, 2019, 12:00:58 PM »
Palpatine rules, figuratively and literally!


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Re: List of Crap #117: Top 50 Villains 2: Freddy's Revenge
« Reply #72 on: June 28, 2019, 12:26:44 PM »
Who else here remembers seeing the Transformers movie in the theater? I was 11 at the time and that movie was seriously disturbing. Especially the scene of Unicron "digesting" his victims.


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Re: List of Crap #117: Top 50 Villains 2: Freddy's Revenge
« Reply #73 on: June 28, 2019, 04:01:25 PM »
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Charles Montgomery Burns

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Charles Montgomery Burns is an industrial billionaire in the TV series The Simpsons.  Mr. Burns was born about the turn of the 20th century (or perhaps earlier) and at a young age was raised by a soulless billionaire.  He eventually inherited vast wealth and became the wealthiest man in the small city of Springfield and is the owner of the Springfield Nuclear Power Plant.  There he runs the plant cheaply with incompetent employees and lives a life of luxury, being waited on hand and foot by his right hand man Waylon Smithers.

Charles Montgomery Burns tends to be pretty open about his evil for the most part, rarely feeling the need to hide his disdain for the citizens of Springfield.  His end goal is profit above all else, which occasional digressions into gaining some sort of notoriety (which usually ends with him deciding he doesn’t care what others thinks since he can usually use his money to get what he wants).  He constantly butts heads against the Simpsons, though Burns rarely remembers Homer Simpson, despite the fact that he is his employee and has been deeply involved in recent events of his life.

Mr. Burns is basically the embodiment of every terrible evil boss you’ve ever had, mix with the classic Dickensian robber baron-type villain, minus any redeeming factors.  He seems to love being evil and in the rare instances he tries to be good, he is often, in the words of Lisa Simpson, “even more evil”.  But there’s also something endearingly pathetic about him.  Due to his ridiculously old age, he is amazingly weak and he is also incredibly out of touch, making references to outdated technology, organizations and people and being unaware that there was a large stock market crash in 1929.  This allows him to be surprisingly sympathetic from time to time, though never quite enough to ever really redeem him.

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For a few episodes in season one, Mr. Burns was initially voiced by Christopher Collins, who was the voice of Cobra Commander on GI Joe and Starscream in Transformers.  Harry Shearer took over shortly after five episodes and made his take on the character a mix of Lionel Barrymore and Ronald Reagan.

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Re: List of Crap #117: Top 50 Villains 2: Freddy's Revenge
« Reply #74 on: June 28, 2019, 07:33:28 PM »
Pearl and Monty Burns are (tents fingers), excellent.

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