login

Author Topic: List of Crap #113: Top 50 Star Trek Episodes Countdown  (Read 4104 times)

0 Members and 2 Guests are viewing this topic.

Offline George-2.0

  • Magneto-cent Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 407
  • Liked: 181
Re: List of Crap #113: Top 50 Star Trek Episodes Countdown
« Reply #255 on: December 06, 2018, 02:17:42 AM »
Mirror -- Oh what fun to watch the cast swagger and sneer. Plus there are mad devices like the Tantalus field (how can that even work?) the agonizers and agony booths, and as absurd as it is, the episode is a total blast. Plus it inspired one of MST3Ks funniest sequence of host segments (see, Last of the Wild Horses).

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/221bApOP8dE" target="_blank" class="new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/221bApOP8dE</a>

Of note: Vic Perrin, the voice of Nomad in the Trek ep, The Changeling, and the voice of the control voice in the original Outer Limits. Is seen here as the head of the ruling council of the planet Halka.
« Last Edit: December 06, 2018, 02:23:28 AM by George-2.0 »


Offline Pastor of Muppets

  • Not Hurt By Pain
  • ******
  • Posts: 1001
  • Liked: 332
  • Now available in minty fresh flavor.
Re: List of Crap #113: Top 50 Star Trek Episodes Countdown
« Reply #256 on: December 06, 2018, 02:35:38 AM »
Mirror -- Oh what fun to watch the cast swagger and sneer. Plus there are mad devices like the Tantalus field (how can that even work?) the agonizers and agony booths, and as absurd as it is, the episode is a total blast. Plus it inspired one of MST3Ks funniest sequence of host segments (see, Last of the Wild Horses).

What is a Tantalus field?
I'm not particularly religious, and I don't really like Muppets, but I do love word play.


Offline Pastor of Muppets

  • Not Hurt By Pain
  • ******
  • Posts: 1001
  • Liked: 332
  • Now available in minty fresh flavor.
Re: List of Crap #113: Top 50 Star Trek Episodes Countdown
« Reply #257 on: December 06, 2018, 02:36:13 AM »
6
The Devil in the Dark
Series:  The Original Series


72 Points
5 of 10 Lists.  Highest Rank: #3 by MartyS

Details

The starship Enterprise arrives at the pergium mining colony on planet Janus VI to help the colony deal with an unknown creature that has killed 50 miners and destroyed equipment with a strong corrosive substance. Kirk, Spock, and McCoy meet with the mine supervisor, Chief Engineer Vanderberg and an engineer, Appel, who describe the amorphous creature and its behavior. During the briefing, Spock's attention is drawn to a silicon nodule on Vanderberg's desk, which Vanderberg dismisses as a geological oddity. Suddenly, they are alerted to a problem in the colony's main nuclear reactor, and find its guard killed and the main circulating pump stolen. Chief Engineer Scott rigs a temporary replacement, but the crude improvisation fails shortly thereafter. Either the missing part or a more-effective replacement must be found within 48 hours.

Captain Kirk and his security team begin to search for the creature. Spock, suspecting the creature may be a silicon-based lifeform, modifies their phasers to be effective against it. They encounter the creature, which has the appearance of molten rock, and fire upon it, breaking a piece of its skin off; the creature flees by burrowing through the rock wall at a rapid pace. Spock analyzes the fragment, whose composition resembles asbestos. He deduces that it is able to burrow through solid rock by secreting the same corrosive substance that has killed the miners. They adjust their tricorders to scan for silicon-based life, and confirm that the creature is the only such lifeform for miles. Spock advises the captain that killing what appears to be the only creature of its species would be a crime against science, though Kirk believes that the creature has proven too dangerous to keep alive.

As all nonessential personnel are evacuated from the colony before the temporary pump fails, Kirk and Spock continue to search for the creature, happening upon a chamber containing thousands of the silicon nodules. The creature arrives, causing a cave-in that separates Kirk and the creature from Spock. Though Spock now urges Kirk to kill it, Kirk observes the creature has not attacked him, instead presenting its wound to him. Spock finds a way around the cave-in and joins Kirk, observing the creature. Spock attempts a mind meld with the creature, but perceives little but intense pain. The creature then etches the words "NO KILL I" into the rock, apparently having gained some knowledge from the meld. Spock attempts a second meld, and learns that the creature is called a Horta, and that its species dies out completely every fifty thousand years, save for one individual that remains alive to protect the eggs of the next generation. The Horta, through Spock, tells them the location of the stolen pump.

Vanderberg and the remaining miners threaten to attack the creature when they see Kirk and McCoy caring for it, but Kirk explains that it was only protecting its eggs, the silicon nodules they have found. The miners fear the prospect of thousands of Horta, but Kirk convinces them that the Horta are peaceful and would be willing to cooperate with the miners.

Kirk, Spock, and McCoy return to the Enterprise and prepare to leave orbit, and learn from Vanderberg that the eggs have hatched and already the new Horta have found uncovered rich veins of pergium and other valuable metals. He adds that the miners are learning to overcome their aversion to the Horta. Spock remarks that the mother Horta felt similarly about humans, though she apparently found his pointed ears quite attractive.

Personal Thoughts

I haven't seen it or heard of it before.  That Horta thing is weird looking.
I'm not particularly religious, and I don't really like Muppets, but I do love word play.


Offline George-2.0

  • Magneto-cent Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 407
  • Liked: 181
Re: List of Crap #113: Top 50 Star Trek Episodes Countdown
« Reply #258 on: December 06, 2018, 04:02:02 AM »
Yay, The Devil in the Dark is the one I had at #10. Glad to see it made it. So...

"I’m a doctor not a brick layer!" was one of McCoy's most memorable lines, spoken in an episode that William Shatner numbers as his favorite, saying that it was "exciting, thought-provoking and intelligent, it contained all of the ingredients that made up our very best Star Treks."

This is one of Trek's "tolerance" eps, and a good showcase for our space trinity as each actor is given a moment to shine. Nimoy does a nice job during a mind meld.



Offline George-2.0

  • Magneto-cent Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 407
  • Liked: 181
Re: List of Crap #113: Top 50 Star Trek Episodes Countdown
« Reply #259 on: December 06, 2018, 04:06:22 AM »
Mirror -- Oh what fun to watch the cast swagger and sneer. Plus there are mad devices like the Tantalus field (how can that even work?) the agonizers and agony booths, and as absurd as it is, the episode is a total blast. Plus it inspired one of MST3Ks funniest sequence of host segments (see, Last of the Wild Horses).

What is a Tantalus field?

You pull someone up on a screen, push a button, and that someone dies. Other than that I dunno what it is or how it is. It's just some movable field of death.



Offline Russoguru

  • The FBI Pays Me to Surf
  • *
  • Posts: 2716
  • Liked: 291
  • "He's never fought me twice!"
Re: List of Crap #113: Top 50 Star Trek Episodes Countdown
« Reply #260 on: December 06, 2018, 11:53:07 AM »
The Devil in the Dark... dammit I knew there was one other TOS episode that should have made my list.


Offline Pastor of Muppets

  • Not Hurt By Pain
  • ******
  • Posts: 1001
  • Liked: 332
  • Now available in minty fresh flavor.
Re: List of Crap #113: Top 50 Star Trek Episodes Countdown
« Reply #261 on: December 06, 2018, 02:18:08 PM »
5
The Doomsday Machine
Series:  The Original Series


84 Points
4 of 10 Lists.  Highest Rank: #1 by Stethacantus

Details

The Federation starship USS Enterprise, following a trail of mysteriously destroyed star systems, picks up the automated distress beacon of another starship, the USS Constellation. Upon arrival, the Constellation is found drifting in space and severely damaged; Captain Kirk, Chief Medical Officer Dr. McCoy, Chief Engineer Scott and a damage control team transport to the ship to evaluate her. There they discover the only member of the crew still aboard, Commodore Matt Decker, her captain, who is suffering from severe mental trauma.

Decker explains that he and his crew had discovered a giant machine, miles long, that used beams of antiprotons to tear planets apart, consuming the rubble for fuel. Their attack on the machine was ineffective and they suffered heavy damage. Decker evacuated his crew to one of the planets of the system, which the machine subsequently destroyed. Kirk theorizes that the machine is an ancient doomsday machine, which must be stopped before it reaches more populated sectors of the galaxy. The Enterprise takes the Constellation in tow and McCoy takes Decker back to the Enterprise, while Scott's damage control team attempt repairs on the Constellation's impulse engines, weapons and shields. Kirk attends to the Constellation's nonfunctional viewscreen, which, other than communications from Enterprise, will be his only means of monitoring events outside the ship.

The Enterprise's first officer, Spock, informs Kirk of the sudden appearance of the so-called planet killer and it begins to pursue the Enterprise. As the boarding party prepares to beam back aboard, the machine attacks the Enterprise, damaging the transporter and disrupting communications. Decker, now the senior officer on the Enterprise, assumes command and orders a phaser attack. The phasers are useless against the machine, and the ship is then caught in a tractor beam which draws it towards the planet killer's maw. Kirk completes his repair of Constellation's viewscreen and is shocked to see the Enterprise engaging the machine. Scott has managed to repair impulse engines and recharge one of the Constellation's phaser banks, so Kirk uses the crippled ship to approach and fire at the planet killer, distracting it long enough for Enterprise to escape its tractor beam. After repairing the transporter and reestablishing voice communications, Enterprise retreats to a safe distance. Spock relieves Decker of command on Kirk's orders and Decker is escorted to Sickbay. However, Decker subdues his security escort and steals a shuttlecraft, flying it straight into the maw of the machine. Despite Kirk's plea for him to return to the Enterprise and his own horror as he is swallowed by the planet killer, he does not deviate from his course and dies.

Lt. Sulu reports that the shuttlecraft explosion has reduced the planet killer's power output by a small amount. Realizing that this may have been Decker's intention, and hoping that a starship would do much more damage, Kirk comes up with a plan to explode the Constellation inside the planet killer. Over Spock's objections, Kirk insists on piloting the damaged ship himself, and Scott rigs the impulse engines to explode with a thirty-second delay before detonation, warning his captain that once the timer is enabled, there is no way to abort it.

With the rest of the boarding party transported back to the Enterprise, Kirk aims the Constellation at the maw of the planet killer, triggers the timer, and orders the Enterprise to beam him aboard. The transporter malfunctions, and Scott races to set it right with advice from Spock. With almost no time to spare, Kirk is safely beamed aboard the Enterprise as the Constellation explodes inside the planet killer, leaving it dead in space, its threat ended.
Personal Thoughts

I haven't seen or heard of this episode, but when I read the title I could not stop thinking of the first episode of Cinematic Titanic.
I'm not particularly religious, and I don't really like Muppets, but I do love word play.


Offline Russoguru

  • The FBI Pays Me to Surf
  • *
  • Posts: 2716
  • Liked: 291
  • "He's never fought me twice!"
Re: List of Crap #113: Top 50 Star Trek Episodes Countdown
« Reply #262 on: December 06, 2018, 03:05:02 PM »
I'm doing a pre-emptive guess as to what the top 4 will be:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)


Offline George-2.0

  • Magneto-cent Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 407
  • Liked: 181
Re: List of Crap #113: Top 50 Star Trek Episodes Countdown
« Reply #263 on: December 06, 2018, 03:11:39 PM »
The Doomsday Machine: The acting from William Windom is the shows strength. There’s a palpable sense of loss, fear and desperation in his performance. I felt a great dread of this thing and a big part of that is due to Windom’s convincing work. Even when he wrests command of the Enterprise from Spock while Kirk is stuck on the other ship, it’s understandable, his psychological break is understandable, and he never becomes a completely unsympathetic character.

I believe the enigmatic nature of the machine is also a plus. In exploration there are things that are unknowable and if addressed right -as it is done so here- it doesn’t come off as lazy, or as a writer who didn’t know how to end or explain his story. This feels right, and heightens –to quote another great show- the awe and mystery.

The driving score, and bombastic sound effects (especially in the enhanced version) adds to the tension.

The new FX in the enhanced version are a bit too plastic for my blood, though it does give a better sense of the destruction caused by the planet killer. The wrecked “USS Constellation” is far more powerful an image than what there was originally.
« Last Edit: December 06, 2018, 03:15:02 PM by George-2.0 »


Offline Russoguru

  • The FBI Pays Me to Surf
  • *
  • Posts: 2716
  • Liked: 291
  • "He's never fought me twice!"
Re: List of Crap #113: Top 50 Star Trek Episodes Countdown
« Reply #264 on: December 06, 2018, 03:31:45 PM »
Yeah... and I still want to know who or what created the Doomsday machine.


Offline Pastor of Muppets

  • Not Hurt By Pain
  • ******
  • Posts: 1001
  • Liked: 332
  • Now available in minty fresh flavor.
Re: List of Crap #113: Top 50 Star Trek Episodes Countdown
« Reply #265 on: December 06, 2018, 03:46:02 PM »
4
Amok Time
Series:  The Original Series

91 Points
6 of 10 Lists.  Highest Rank: TIE – #4 by Russoguru and George 2.0

Details

Spock, the first officer of the Federation starship USS Enterprise, begins to exhibit unusual behavior and requests that he be granted leave on his home planet Vulcan. Captain James T. Kirk and Chief Medical Officer Dr. McCoy, having witnessed one of their friend's outbursts, agree and Kirk diverts the ship to Vulcan. En route, Kirk receives orders from Starfleet to travel to Altair VI to represent the Federation at the inauguration ceremony for the planet's new president. Though Kirk instructs the crew to set course to Altair VI, Spock secretly changes course back to Vulcan. Kirk confronts Spock, who claims to have no memory of ordering the course change.

Kirk orders Spock to Sick Bay, where McCoy finds evidence of extreme physical and emotional stress, a condition that will kill him within eight days if not treated. Spock is forced to explain that he is undergoing pon farr, a condition male Vulcans experience periodically throughout their adult life, and that he must mate or die. Kirk contacts Starfleet to request permission to divert to Vulcan but is denied. Kirk disobeys orders, believing that saving the life of his friend is more important than his career.

At Vulcan, Spock invites Kirk and McCoy to accompany him to the wedding ceremony. He explains that Vulcans are bonded as children so as to fulfill the pon farr commitment, and that T'Pring is to be his mate. T'Pring arrives with Stonn, a pureblood Vulcan, whom she prefers to Spock. T'Pau, a matriarch renowned as the only person ever to refuse a seat on the Federation Council, prepares to conduct the ceremony. However, T'Pring demands the kal-if-fee, a physical challenge between Spock and a champion she selects. To everyone's surprise, she chooses Kirk instead of Stonn. Spock begs T'Pau to forbid it as Kirk is unaware of the implications, but T'Pau leaves the decision to Kirk; another champion will be selected if he refuses. Kirk accepts the challenge, only to learn that it is "to the death."

The two begin combat with lirpa, a traditional Vulcan weapon. Kirk is challenged by Spock's strength and agility, even in his current state, as well as the thinner atmosphere of Vulcan. McCoy convinces T'Pau to allow him to inject Kirk with a tri-ox compound to offset the effects of the Vulcan atmosphere. The battle continues, with Spock eventually garroting Kirk with an ahn'woon. McCoy rushes to Kirk's body and declares him dead, and requests immediate transport back to the Enterprise.

Spock renounces his claim on T'Pring, but not before demanding an explanation from her. She explains that she feared losing Stonn in the kal-if-fee. By choosing Kirk, T'Pring would be assured of having Stonn in some capacity regardless of the outcome: if Spock was the victor, he would release her from the marriage (for having made the challenge in the first place), and if Kirk had won, he would not want her either. Spock, now free of the pon farr, compliments T'Pring on her flawless logic, and returns to the Enterprise, warning Stonn that "having is not so pleasing a thing after all as wanting."

Aboard the ship, Spock announces his intent to resign his commission and submit himself for trial for killing Kirk, when he discovers Kirk is alive and well in sickbay. McCoy explains that the injection he gave Kirk was a neuroparalyzer drug that merely simulated death. Asked about what followed, Spock states that he lost all desire for T'Pring after he thought he killed Kirk. Kirk then learns that Starfleet, at T'Pau's request, has belatedly given the Enterprise permission to travel to Vulcan.
Personal Thoughts

I've never seen this, although I knew that the Kirk/Spock battle was pretty famous.  I thought it was because of mind control or some evil race, not Vulcans.  It was spoofed on the 5th episode episode of The Simpsons “Deep Space Homer”.

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/2gWvDVLVxKo?start=44" target="_blank" class="new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/2gWvDVLVxKo?start=44</a>

I'm not particularly religious, and I don't really like Muppets, but I do love word play.


Offline Pastor of Muppets

  • Not Hurt By Pain
  • ******
  • Posts: 1001
  • Liked: 332
  • Now available in minty fresh flavor.
Re: List of Crap #113: Top 50 Star Trek Episodes Countdown
« Reply #266 on: December 06, 2018, 03:51:54 PM »
That's it for today.  Top 3 tomorrow.
I'm not particularly religious, and I don't really like Muppets, but I do love word play.


Offline George-2.0

  • Magneto-cent Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 407
  • Liked: 181
Re: List of Crap #113: Top 50 Star Trek Episodes Countdown
« Reply #267 on: December 06, 2018, 03:59:49 PM »
Cool beans, looking forward to it.

Amok Time: The season 2 opener is  a smartly written tale from the great Theodore Sturgeon. It’s a bittersweet drama filled with thoughtful characterization. And while some of the stuff with Nurse Chapel can lean on the soapy and the sexist, even those scenes have enough genuine warmth and heart to not be too embarrassing. Plus the rest of the character bits ring authentic and is well played by the talented cast.

I like how the ep expands on the mythology, deepens the relationship between our big three and offers up some back-story on Spock. All that and we get to visit the mysterious planet Vulcan

Dialog is strong; I enjoyed jilted Spock’s parting exchange with T’Pring and the little shot he directed at her lover at the end. The music is particularly memorable and adds much to the drama and excitement. The remastered enhancements offer a cool look at the landscape of Vulcan, which includes a rocky bridge the trio crosses on rout to the wedding… er, death battle.


Offline MartyS (Gromit)

  • Not Quite Legend
  • *****
  • Posts: 11218
  • Liked: 2396
  • Weirdies!
    • My homepage
Re: List of Crap #113: Top 50 Star Trek Episodes Countdown
« Reply #268 on: December 06, 2018, 04:05:40 PM »
The Doomsday Machine and Balance of Terror were the ones that I couldn't choose between and just had to stop flipping them at some point.  It's so good, the acting just pulls you in and you really feel bad for Decker even while he is putting the Enterprise in danger. 

I think the remastered effects tell the story better, but I do agree that they made the hull of the machine look too plastic.  It's a shame because looking at it they could have easily fixed that problem by making the hull darker and less reflective.  Of course the original effects used an off the shelf plastic model kit for the Constellation, so the new effects look less plastic in those scenes.  The remaster effects also fix some of the scale issues, the original effects have the shuttle craft way to large in comparison to the planet killer.

I started a Constellation model project years ago, I had one of those not very good Enterprise models with bad lighting and sound effects, used the electronics in the stand for my big Enterprise model and decided to turn the torn up model into the Constellation.  Planned on 3D printing some internal parts for the damaged sections but never got around to it. 


This is as far as I got, maybe someday I'll finish it (spoilered for size):
Spoiler (click to show/hide)


Offline CJones

  • Mayor of Nilbog
  • *****
  • Posts: 3667
  • Liked: 557
  • 5000 deaths and counting
Re: List of Crap #113: Top 50 Star Trek Episodes Countdown
« Reply #269 on: December 06, 2018, 04:12:35 PM »
I'm doing a pre-emptive guess as to what the top 4 will be:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

I will be astounded if it's anything other than that. Curious to see the order.