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Offline BathTub

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Re: Thoughts. Bond Thoughts.
« Reply #15 on: April 29, 2007, 11:49:34 AM »
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Re: Thoughts. Bond Thoughts.
« Reply #16 on: April 29, 2007, 11:58:16 AM »
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Re: Thoughts. Bond Thoughts.
« Reply #17 on: April 29, 2007, 12:48:52 PM »
You disliked the movie because it wasn't formulaic and goofy gadget-intensive enough? I think that puts you pretty solidly in the minority, my friend.

Well it was boring as hell! Give me the time tested formula of Bond vs a defined bad guy with world domination intent, toss in a few gadgets, a few action sequences, and Bond finally getting the girl in the end.

This one was one long drawn out plot with lots of sex.. Granted he got more "action" than most bonds, but in the action department it was dull dull dull.




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« Reply #18 on: April 29, 2007, 01:12:38 PM »
You disliked the movie because it wasn't formulaic and goofy gadget-intensive enough? I think that puts you pretty solidly in the minority, my friend.

Well it was boring as hell! Give me the time tested formula of Bond vs a defined bad guy with world domination intent, toss in a few gadgets, a few action sequences, and Bond finally getting the girl in the end.

This one was one long drawn out plot with lots of sex.. Granted he got more "action" than most bonds, but in the action department it was dull dull dull.

That wasn't the tried and true formula in the beginning.  The books and most of the Connery movies were far more dignified than those two hour explosions you seem to want so much.  If I want a 2-hour explosion, I'll watch something with Bruce Willis or Vin Diesel.  When I watch a Bond movie, I want there to be some actual spying going on.

Edit:  Besides, gadgets are stupid when Daniel Craig can do more with a cell phone than Brosnan got with his, I'm going to go with billion, dollar car.


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Re: Thoughts. Bond Thoughts.
« Reply #19 on: April 29, 2007, 01:18:54 PM »
I liked that the main villain got shot long before the end of the movie, I thought it nice to see a deviation from the normal plot structure.

But a lot of the love story stuff was boring, and I don't think the girl's motivations rang wholly true.

The first hour is still the best hour of Bond ever, though.


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Re: Thoughts. Bond Thoughts.
« Reply #20 on: April 29, 2007, 01:57:20 PM »
I like Casino Royale a lot, definitely one of my favorite Bond flicks.  That said, I thought Mike and Kevin did a great job of riffery on this one.  It was full of goofy humor, and even a Sanjaya reference.  Plus the callbacks to Attack of the Clones made me laugh.  I always appreciate a good callback. 


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« Reply #21 on: April 29, 2007, 07:38:43 PM »
I have yet to partake, but I'm looking forward to this one... There is really no Bond movie that isn't ripe for riffing, even if this is one of the "better" ones. I do have some concern about the tone of the riff, based only on the sample. If you are going to start questioning "plausibility" while watching any Bond stunt sequence from the last 30 years or so... I think you're missing the point. Why the hell would I watch Bond if I wanted plausible? My biggest pet peeve with Rifftrax is when they try to hold the subject movie to a higher standard than it was holding itself.


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« Reply #22 on: April 29, 2007, 08:54:40 PM »
Well, part of the philosophy of the new Bond movie is to put it in a much more plausible universe. Besides, if the standard to which a movie holds itself is 'stupid' (as with, say, xXx) then that shouldn't stop the riffing from pointing out stupidity.

Anyway, they don't harp on implausibility much, which is good because I'm pretty sure most of the opening chase sequence is actually pretty doable. The black guy (well, technically the black guy's stuntman) is one of those famous underground video guys who does that sort of thing all the time, though I forget the name for it.


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« Reply #23 on: April 29, 2007, 09:11:38 PM »
i think its called free running.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_running

also apparently parkour

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parkour

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well, technically the black guy's stuntman

nope it WAS the black guy, who is also the founder of the free running movement


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Re: Thoughts. Bond Thoughts.
« Reply #24 on: April 29, 2007, 10:49:01 PM »
Yeah when it's a bit part with 5 seconds face time, it would be a bit silly to get an actor AND a stuntman for it.


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Re: Thoughts. Bond Thoughts.
« Reply #25 on: April 29, 2007, 11:13:32 PM »
The free running was cool, but it didn't make a whole lot of sense. This internationally-known bombmaker also happens to be one of the best free runners in the world? But it made for a good contrast between his finesse and Bond's blunt force/ingenuity combo, whcih I believe is what they were going for.


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« Reply #26 on: April 29, 2007, 11:17:27 PM »
i thought the whole opening sequence was friggen amazingly well done.  havent seen stunt work like that in quite a while.


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Re: Thoughts. Bond Thoughts.
« Reply #27 on: April 29, 2007, 11:31:42 PM »
i thought the whole opening sequence was friggen amazingly well done.  havent seen stunt work like that in quite a while.

It was also nice that the scene wasn't only shot in black & white, but for B&W. Part of me wishes the whole movie looked that way. Beautiful.

Thank Jebus that the Bond movies never strayed too far from realistic fight choreography. I'm almost surprised they didn't  have Pierce doing slo-mo kung fun in Die Another Die. Ridiculous stunts are a staple of 007, but Bond's always fought down-and-dirty, with the notable exception of Roger Moore's patented judo chop and shoulder throw  ::) - and that helps keep the movies grounded. I'd say that's been Bond's biggest influence on the Bourne series.


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Re: Thoughts. Bond Thoughts.
« Reply #28 on: April 30, 2007, 04:50:13 AM »
Oh, cool, when it first came out it was listed differently on IMDB. I thought that was stupid, too.
And yeah, parkour was the word I was trying to think of.

Also, of course it's unrealistic that the bomb maker is really, really good at running away (although parkour is something a lot of impoverished urban kids do) but that's a level of suspension of disbelief you just have to take. It's unrealistic that Bond's good at as many things as he is, too.


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Re: Thoughts. Bond Thoughts.
« Reply #29 on: April 30, 2007, 04:51:58 AM »
Well, part of the philosophy of the new Bond movie is to put it in a much more plausible universe. Besides, if the standard to which a movie holds itself is 'stupid' (as with, say, xXx) then that shouldn't stop the riffing from pointing out stupidity.

Anyway, they don't harp on implausibility much, which is good because I'm pretty sure most of the opening chase sequence is actually pretty doable. The black guy (well, technically the black guy's stuntman) is one of those famous underground video guys who does that sort of thing all the time, though I forget the name for it.

Well, I wouldn't say that Bond films are only hoping to achieve a standard of "stupid". That sequence from Casino Royale is nothing new, they have gone over the top with the stunt sequences for over 30 years. One of the best things about the Bond franchise is that one or two times a movie when you say to yourself: "No friggin way was that remotely possible, but it looked cool as hell.". I just shook my head when they started dropping "it's getting silly" type riffs.... as if they expect their audience to be unfamilar with Bond's work over the last handful of decades.