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Re: LoC 69: Top 51 Gameshows Countdown!
« Reply #105 on: April 14, 2013, 04:19:20 PM »
#16 (Tie) Hollywood Squares - 47 Points

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Hollywood Squares started with a pilot in 1965, which was pickup the next year. The show's initial run lasted from 1966 to 1981, and was hosted by "Master of the Squares" Peter Marshall, and featuring in the center square Paul Lynde. In 1983 the show was brought back briefly as part of The Match Game Hollywood Squares Hour, where the winner of the Match Game would go on to face the previous day's winner in Hollywood Squares. It was a disaster and was canceled after one season. Since then there have been a couple more revivals: The 1986-1989 run featuring Joan Rivers in the center square, and 1998-2004 featuring Whoopi Goldberg.

The format of the show has largely stayed the same. Two contestants, usually a woman playing the O's and a man playing the X's, pick squares trying win a game of Tic-Tac-Toe. The host asks the celebrity a question, to which they usually gave a joke answer, and then a "real" answer. The contestant had to agree or disagree, and if they chose right, they won that square. If they chose wrong, the opponent won it. However, a contestant would not lose the game this way. If a wrong answer would have resulted in the opponent winning, the square is left empty. There's also usually a Secret Square, selected at random, which if a player wins, they win some sort of prize.

Now a question many people wonder is, do the celebrities know the answers before hand. The answer is, not really. They were given "bluff" answers, meaning they were told incorrect but plausible sounding answers for when they intentionally gave the wrong answer, and they were given joke answers ahead of time. But the weren't given the correct answers ahead of time. So when they're right, it's because they actually knew it. But they also knew when they were wrong for sure, as evidenced in the following popular clip,

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Re: LoC 69: Top 51 Gameshows Countdown!
« Reply #106 on: April 14, 2013, 05:41:58 PM »
#14 ($100,000) Pyramid - 52 Points

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This show started in 1973 as The $10,000 Pyramid, starring Dick Clark, and has gone through many iterations since then, ranging from $10,000 to $100,000 and later, simply Pyramid. The $10K-$100K versions of the show ran until 1988, then came back for one more year in 1991 with John Davidson.

The format of the show is very similar to Password, but more fast paced. Two teams, of which one each was a celebrity, took turns picking one of six categories arranged like a pyramid. Then the clue giver would be shown a series of up to seven (originally eight, but soon reduced) words associated with that category. The had to describe those words to their teammate without using the word or any derivation thereof, within 30 seconds. There was almost always some manner of bonus prize associated with one of the categories, which the contestant could win by getting all seven. After all six rounds, whoever was in the lead went to the Winner's Circle.

In the Winner's Circle, the clues and categories were effectively reversed. The contestant sat with their back to the pyramid, which showed a succession of six categories. The celebrity would gives examples of things that fit that category, and the contestant had to figure out what the category was. If they got all six, they won. In most versions of the game, the contestant had to make it to the winner's circle twice and win both, or at least the second time to win the top prize. Strictly speaking, the contestant had the choice whether to give to recive the clues, but they nearly always opted to receive.

In the last few years there have been several attempts to revive Pyramid. When The Guiding Light ended, CBS was looking to bring back one of their previous successful game shows. Pyramid was in the running, but ultimately they went with Let's Make a Deal instead. When As the World Turns ended, they tried again, and shot a pilot with Andy Richter, but it wasn't picked up. TBS, later shot another pilot, again with Andy Richter, and again it wasn't picked up. Last year GSN announced it was reviving the show, this time with Mike Richards. 40 episodes were shot and aired. Since then, it's time slot has been given to Drew Carey Improv-a-ganza, and every indication is that they don't plan to bring it back.

The original show has won the second most Daytime Emmys of any game show. I'll tell you what's #1 when we get to it.



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Re: LoC 69: Top 51 Gameshows Countdown!
« Reply #107 on: April 14, 2013, 06:32:18 PM »
#13 Tic-Tac-Dough - 57 Points

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Tic-Tac-Dough originally ran from 1956-1959. Unfortunately I couldn't find any episodes with the original host Jack Barry, but check out what I did find. Yes, that is Dick Clark, as a contestant on a game show. Barry went on to revive the show as producer of the show most of us are familiar with, the 1978-1986 version starring Wink Martindale. The show did make one more run for one season in 1990.

Odd we're getting another Tic-Tac-Toe game so soon after Hollywood Squares. In this version, contestants have to answer the questions themselves. An incorrect answer just leaves the square empty. The categories are shown on the squares but shuffle around after each question. In later seasons, there would also be one category in red, which would involve some special rules. There was a common Jackpot shared by both players. Every time anyone answered a question correctly, money would be added to the pot. Any time a round ended in a tie, they'd immediately start a new round and the pot would carry over until someone won.

The winner would then play a bonus round, Beat the Dragon, where the contestant simply had to guess what was in each square. There were a couple different variations of this, but the common theme was that picking the square with the dragon ended the game. Initially the idea was to uncover the line of X's or O's. Later this was replaced with $ values, a TIC and a TAC. In both versions, the player could opt to quit at any time, rather than risk picking the dragon. Very late in the series a Dragon Slayer was added, which was an automatic win.

The show was made famous for the fact that a player stayed on for as long as they kept winning. In the '78 and '79 seasons, contestants were limited to winning no more than $25K total, before being forced to leave. From '80 on, this was removed. This led to the historic 89 game streak of Thom McKee, which lasted 46 days and over which he won $312,700, including eight cars and about $200K in cash. This translates to about $800K worth of winnings today. At the time, this was the most anyone had ever won on a game show.


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Re: LoC 69: Top 51 Gameshows Countdown!
« Reply #108 on: April 14, 2013, 06:35:21 PM »
I've never even heard of that one.  Also, beat the dragon sounds like street slang for overcoming the desire for drugs.  You know, like being on top of the monkey's back?


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« Reply #109 on: April 14, 2013, 07:41:03 PM »
That's my anti-drug.


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Re: LoC 69: Top 51 Gameshows Countdown!
« Reply #110 on: April 14, 2013, 07:49:25 PM »
#12 Match Game - 59 Points

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For all intents and purposes, this is really two different games with the same name and the same host, Gene Rayburn. Check out the first video and you'll see what I mean. The video was split into three parts so if you want to see the rest, you'll have to find it yourself.

The original version ran from 1962-1969 on NBC. Two teams, each consisting of one celebrity and two contestants (you read right, I don't have that backwards) compete against each other. Bradburn would ask a simple question along the lines of "name something that" so-and-so. All six players would write down something. If any two team members matched, that team got 25 points. If all threee matched, they got 50 points. It made no difference if anyone on one team matched anyone on the other. First to 100 wins $100 and plays a bonus "poll the audience" game, where they be asked three more questions previously surveyed among the audience. For each person who matched the most popular answer, the team won another $50.

NBC wanted to cancel the show, until one of the writers suggested to Mark Goodson that they begin using funnier, more risque questions. He gave the go ahead, and the show became a hit.

Skip ahead four years and we get the game that people recognize today: What started as Match Game '73, continued up to Match Game '78, then continued on simply as Match Game up until 1984. This time there were only two contestants, but six celebrity panelists. Dick DeBartolo, the same writer who had suggested the saucier questions in the original series, was asked to come back and write for the show again. This time, the questions alternated players, and for each question, all six panelists gave an answer. For each one that matched the contestant's answer, that contestant won one point. This was done twice for each contestant. Whoever was in the lead at that point went on to the Super Match.

The Super Match started with an Audience Survey, much like the original show. The contestant won $500, $250 or $100 depending on if they got the 1st, 2nd or 3rd most popular answer. Then it went on to the Head-to-Head Match, where the contestant picked one panelist, and both were asked one final question. If they gave the same answer, the winnings were multiplied by 10.

Now, you may have noticed that this Audience Survey bit sounds an awful lot like Family Feud. This is no coincidence. It was from this that the producers got the idea for Family Feud. Richard Dawson was a regular panel member on Match Game '7X, and he was so popular that when it came time to start Family Feud, they asked him to host it.



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Re: LoC 69: Top 51 Gameshows Countdown!
« Reply #111 on: April 14, 2013, 08:31:34 PM »
#11 Wheel of Fortune - 63 Points

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Okay, who else here remembers the days when the contestants had to spend their winnings on prizes, rather then getting it in cash? The changeover took place in 1987 for the evening show, 1989 for the daytime show, which was cancelled in 1991. People seem to have forgotten that was ever the case.

Wheel of Fortune started in 1975, and was created by Merv Griffin to replace Jeopardy! (which he also created) on NBC, which after 11 years, was scheduled to end. In fact Wheel of Fortune started the very next week after the last episode of Jeopardy! Of course, both shows still exist, but only in syndicated form now. The show was originally hosted by Chuck Woolery (of Love Connection and Scrabble fame), but after a salary dispute with Griffin he quit Pat Sajak was brought in to replace him in 1981. Sajak stayed with the syndicated version of the show, which aired in the evening, but another two hosts came after him on the network (daytime) version: Rolf Benirschke & Bob Goen. No, I've never heard of them either.

The game is essentially Hangman. People spin a big wheel, guess a letter and score the value on the wheel for each of that letter that's in the puzzle. If there are none of that letter, or if the wheel lands on a Bankrupt or Lose a Turn, play goes to the next of the three contestants. Whoever guesses it correctly wins the amount they had banked during that round. Whoever's in the lead at the end of the game goes to a final bonus round, where they provide 5 consonants and a vowel, those letters, if any, are revealed, and the contestant has to solve that last puzzle.

The show has made lots of minor changes and additions over the years, such as the additions of toss ups, prize puzzles and a jackpot round. But I'd say there have been three really significant changes. One I've already mentioned, the changeover from prizes to cash. In the prize version, they could buy prizes in the "showroom", put it on a gift certificate for the now defunct Service Merchandise, or put it on account in the hopes that they'll win another round and be able to buy something big. The second is the fact that it became such common knowledge that RSTLNE were the most common letters that absolutely everyone always chose them. To get people to start picking different letters again, they just started giving them those letters for free and then asking for three more consonants and one more vowel.

And last, the role of the hostess has become completely superfluous. In the past, she actually had a job. She had to know what each letter was so it the wrong one lit up, or there was some technical failure, she could still turn the right one. Now she does effectively nothing but look pretty. Also, Vanna White wasn't the original hostess either. It was originally Susan Stafford. She left soon after Woolery.



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Re: LoC 69: Top 51 Gameshows Countdown!
« Reply #112 on: April 14, 2013, 08:32:43 PM »
That's it for today. Tomorrow we'll finally be getting into the Top 10.


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Re: LoC 69: Top 51 Gameshows Countdown!
« Reply #113 on: April 14, 2013, 09:09:46 PM »
I remember the spending cash they always had a statue of a dog that no one wanted.
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Which caused the dog to weep porcelain tears


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Re: LoC 69: Top 51 Gameshows Countdown!
« Reply #115 on: April 15, 2013, 04:12:03 PM »
#10 Remote Control - 67 Points

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Apparently I'm the only person who's never watched this show.

Remote Control aired on MTV from 1987 to 1990. This was back when MTZ still had anything to do with music, and supposedly this was MTV's first non-music related show.

Three contestants seat belted into BarcaLoungers  played a Jeopardy! style quiz game about pop culture, choosing one of nine categories, with the questions worth 5, 10 and 15 points in each category, in that order. However, the contestants couldn't see what the categories were. They could only see the channel numbers. After a correct answer, the contestant in control got to choose what channel to watch. At the end of round one there would be a "snack break" which usually involved snacks being dropped on the contestants. Round two worked the same as the first, but the points were doubled. After two rounds, the person in last place was bodily ejected from the game, chair and all, hence the seat belts.

There were also negative channels, which could deduct points, or be otherwise painful.

Once there were only two left, they'd go to the lightning round. The winner after this went on to the final round. Here they'd be strapped to an adjustable bed and shown a series of 9 music videos, which they had to identify in 30 seconds. If they did, they'd win the grand prize. I've been told this almost never happened. In the final season there was also a Final Jeopardy style wagering round before the bonus round.

Anyone who actually watched this show, as I know several of you have, feel free to correct me or fill in anything I didn't mention, but should have.



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« Reply #116 on: April 15, 2013, 04:43:48 PM »
Only three years? Wow.

You can also thank this show for introducing Adam Sandler to the world.  But I enjoyed Colin Quinn.

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« Reply #117 on: April 15, 2013, 04:56:41 PM »
I've never seen this one.  I've heard of it, but know very little about it.


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Re: LoC 69: Top 51 Gameshows Countdown!
« Reply #118 on: April 15, 2013, 05:05:58 PM »
#9 American Gladiators - 70 Points

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Now here is a show I did watch. American Gladiators ran in syndication from 1989 to 1996. The idea for the show actually came from a couple of teachers at Erie Tech High School in Erie, PA, where they held their own tournament. They later sold the concept to Samuel Goldwyn, of MGM, and it became American Gladiators.

Four contestants, two men competing against each other, and two women doing the same, had to play through a series of six to eight events, plus the Eliminator. However, they usually didn't compete directly against one another, but against the shows regulars, The Gladiators. These were mostly people with ties to body building, pro-wrestling or football. It was their job to try and keep the contestants from scoring points. They typically had obviously made up names like Turbo, Lace, Nitro and Ice.

There were a number of games that could be played, and they varied from episode to episode. My personal favorites were Powerball and Atlasphere. Others included Joust, Assault, Hang Tough, Swingshot and The Wall. The final game of every episode was always the Eliminator, a large obstacle course. In this, the pair of contestants did complete directly against one another. Originally they were racing against the clock, winning bonus points for each second left. Later this was changed so that the points scored so far translated into a head start for the person in the lead. This meant whoever finished first won the game.

The show was run using a tournament format. The specifics changed multiple times during the show's run. However, seasons 1-5 always had two tournaments per season, while seasons 6 & 7 had only one.

There was also a remake of the show launched in 2008. It only lasted two seasons, for a total of 21 episodes. I've never seen it, but I've been told it sucked. I know it was hosted by Hulk Hogan.









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« Reply #119 on: April 15, 2013, 05:09:29 PM »
What would your American Gladiator name be.

Please try to keep it under 2 syllables.

I would be Magma!  Or Smash!