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Re: Loc: Top 54 Fictional Crushes Countdown
« Reply #270 on: February 19, 2012, 11:12:21 AM »
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« Reply #271 on: February 19, 2012, 11:25:51 AM »
Yes... and the point I was making, or rather, trying to make for how I would have approached it, is that "wanting to bone" has neither admiration or romance to it
Yes it does. The whole point of romance is window dressing for coitus. At any rate one of the things I find in those I admire is that I'd like to know what they'd be like in bed. It's a personal idiosyncrasy possibly but there it is. :)

Actually, you're still missing my point, which was 'romance' is an emotionally intimate relationship that may have a potential sexual component to it: it contains the possibility of sex; but simply 'wanting to bone' doesn't have a relationship or a romantic component to it, and doesn't even imply that one wants a relationship outside of two mucous membranes rubbing on each-other.  They are not interchangeable words: 'boning' is a MUCH more limited experience... and [which does not apply to what you or necessarily anyone else here wrote] thinking that sex is all there is, is a very limited way of thinking of male-female (or male-male, female-female if one goes that way) relationships.

"The whole point of romance is window dressing for coitus," is a very limited biological imperative viewpoint.  There are other ways of looking at interactions between people (and, possibly, a majority of warm-blooded animals), and romance includes the need for companionship, which is just as 'imperative' as reproduction.  Or else every 'romance' would END once the people involved had screwed.


The OED just says infatuation, if we're going by dictionary definitions. :)

And, yes, if you'd read the two posts I wrote (one on this page, the other on the previous one), you'd see that I quoted both definitions in both posts, [and said that I got them from the online Webster's], both 'crush', AND the definition of 'infatuation' which is, "to inspire with a foolish or extravagant love or admiration".

'Extravagant love or admiration' is not equal to 'boning' or 'coitus'.  'Boning' is an isolated sex act (or group of them) and doesn't contain 'extravagant love' or 'admiration'.  But 'extravagant love' can potentially lead to intercourse.  The one can contain the other, but not vice-verca.
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Re: Loc: Top 54 Fictional Crushes Countdown
« Reply #272 on: February 19, 2012, 11:39:51 AM »
I always want to have a coffee at your place

#10 Kara “Starbuck” Thrace
   
   
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Appeal:

War queen in the skies above the skies!  Too much?  Uh, good in a Viper and in the sack.

Bio:
Described as "one of television's most complex, ever-evolving characters", the role of Starbuck changed over the run of the series. According to Sackhoff, Starbuck originally "didn't value her own life," inspiring her readiness to die for her shipmates. By the end of the series, however, she is prepared to sacrifice herself for others because of her respect for all life. The character's physical appearance is based on Sackhoff's perception of Starbuck as an extremely fit, hard-drinking individual. "I didn't want Starbuck to be completely ripped," said Sackhoff. "This is a girl who drinks most of her calories."

Kara Thrace bears some parallels to the original 1978 Starbuck character: both are portrayed as hot-headed and cocky fighter pilots, considered the best in the fleet, but with a tendency to challenge authorities and get into trouble. Both are avid gamblers and enjoy drinking, smoking cigars, and sex. Both have crashed and been marooned on a deserted planet, using a downed Cylon ship to make an escape. Both are best friends with Apollo. Kara had a relationship with Apollo's late brother Zak (mirroring the original Starbuck's on-and-off relationship with Apollo's sister Athena), affecting her relationship to Apollo and Zak's father, William Adama.

However, the two characters differ both in their gender – complicating Kara Thrace's relationships with other characters, notably Apollo – as well as their outward appearance: whereas the original Starbuck, played by Dirk Benedict, was a slick, well-groomed ladies' man, Kara appears more rugged and grimy. USA Today described her as "the broken warrior, a young, idealistic soldier who has been fighting for all the right reasons, but has lost something along the way."

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Re: Loc: Top 54 Fictional Crushes Countdown
« Reply #273 on: February 19, 2012, 12:29:06 PM »
I've never watched Battlestar Galactica, but Katee Sackhoff was the best thing about the short lived Bionic Woman series. She has a screen presence that drew me in, even though she was playing the villian.

As far as the what defines a "crush" - Until they issue federally mandated rules on such matters, I think an individual can define it however they want.  It's not like any of this really matters. It's all for shits and giggles, right?  ;)
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Re: Loc: Top 54 Fictional Crushes Countdown
« Reply #274 on: February 19, 2012, 12:53:32 PM »
Catching up again.

I think I've been physically drained, cause you've just touched my heart.
#23 Rogue

Best part about watching the X-Men cartoon in the 90s.  Fully agree with the "forbidden fruit" theory, and the accent was hot as hell.

I like a woman with green eyes.  And everything else.
#21 She-Hulk

Not on my list, but I get the feeling if I read her comics more she would have been.  First time I really ever noticed her was a Facebook post of this little incident.

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Let's fool around.
   
#18 Harley Quinn
   

To me, not only is the character sexy and funny, she's a very sympathetic character.  Even at her worst, you end up feeling for her because she's trapped in an abusive relationship.  One of the things I hated the most about when the Batman Animated Series made the transition to the last season being "Batman Superman Adventures" is that they backtracked her storyline.  She started just as the Joker's girl, got fleshed out as a character, eventually had a couple episodes where she was trying to reform and find her own identity away from the Joker, and just when it seemed like she was about to succeed and be a more heroic character...she's in the first episode of B/S Adventures kidnapping Bruce Wayne.  I'm glad I could find some comics Paul Dini wrote that picked up the slack on the road to recovery trail.

Oh, and the Arkham Asylum/Arkham City redesign of her?  Downright evil in all the right ways.

Cap'n...
#17 Turanga Leela

Leela made my list, love her attitude and Katey Segal was the perfect choice to voice her. 

We could make it prince and princess duoke
#11 San

Considered her, maybe she should have been on my list instead of someone else, but it was close.

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#10 Kara “Starbuck” Thrace

Woo, my #1 just made the top ten.  The new BSG became my favorite show very quickly after my brother introduced me to it, and Starbuck was the biggest reason why. 
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Re: Loc: Top 54 Fictional Crushes Countdown
« Reply #275 on: February 19, 2012, 12:54:45 PM »
As far as the what defines a "crush" - Until they issue federally mandated rules on such matters, I think an individual can define it however they want.  It's not like any of this really matters. It's all for shits and giggles, right?  ;)

That's how I feel as well. I had two horses and a mouse on my list for crap's sake (two of which have already make it). 

Also, I watched all of the new Battlestar Galactica. Good show, but I was never a fan of Kara Thrace. I preferred Boomer/Athena (played by Grace Park)


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Re: Loc: Top 54 Fictional Crushes Countdown
« Reply #276 on: February 19, 2012, 01:01:48 PM »
Starbuck's in my top ten.  She was written well and Katee Sackhoff is a good actress to boot.


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Re: Loc: Top 54 Fictional Crushes Countdown
« Reply #277 on: February 19, 2012, 01:02:39 PM »
As far as the what defines a "crush" - Until they issue federally mandated rules on such matters, I think an individual can define it however they want.  It's not like any of this really matters. It's all for shits and giggles, right?  ;)

True: This is all in 'fun'.

The only point I was making in my initial post here was on how I would have defined it.  Others jumped on that and misrepresented what I said, so I clarified.

Definitions of words are, actually, governed by 'common usage' which is what ends up in dictionaries.  Among themselves, people can say that a cow is a kitty cat for all I care (...good luck when it curls up on their lap, though).  But for people to communicate in a social setting, if there is no agreement on what words mean, then communication - as a whole - is not possible, or is meaningless, or (as seems to have been happening here) results in unnecessary conflict.

And for this LoC: if people weren't using the same meaning for the term when voting, then the 'overlap' of one person's votes with another - the entire 'results' of the poll - are meaningless, because the people's definitions for why any given person was on their list didn't mean the same thing.  [I have had WAY too many classes is 'how to create valid tests and do valid research' in grad school!  ;)  (Plus, being well past my limits, I tend to get concrete in how I respond to things (i.e. currently I'm responding to everything exactly at face value).)]

GH, I know you were trying to smooth things over here, and I applaud you for that.  [None of my response in this post contains irritation, or anything other than a desire to share ideas.]


...I had two horses and a mouse on my list for crap's sake (two of which have already make it).

With all of the non-humans, I generally thought of them as "if I were that species"-type things.  Not that someone wanted - as a human - to romance a PonyTM or mouse.  :)
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Re: Loc: Top 54 Fictional Crushes Countdown
« Reply #278 on: February 19, 2012, 01:06:44 PM »
As far as the what defines a "crush" - Until they issue federally mandated rules on such matters, I think an individual can define it however they want.  It's not like any of this really matters. It's all for shits and giggles, right?  ;)

True: This is all in 'fun'.

The only point I was making in my initial post here was on how I would have defined it.  Others jumped on that and misrepresented what I said, so I clarified.

Definitions of words are, actually, governed by 'common usage' which is what ends up in dictionaries.  Among themselves, people can say that a cow is a kitty cat for all I care (...good luck when it curls up on their lap, though).  But for people to communicate in a social setting, if there is no agreement on what words mean, then communication - as a whole - is not possible, or is meaningless, or (as seems to have been happening here) results in unnecessary conflict.

And for this LoC: if people weren't using the same meaning for the term when voting, then the 'overlap' of one person's votes with another - the entire 'results' of the poll - are meaningless, because the people's definitions for why any given person was on their list didn't mean the same thing.  [I have had WAY too many classes is 'how to create valid tests and do valid research' in grad school!  ;)  (Plus, being well past my limits, I tend to get concrete in how I respond to things (i.e. currently I'm responding to everything exactly at face value).)]

GH, I know you were trying to smooth things over here, and I applaud you for that.  [None of my response in this post contains irritation, or anything other than a desire to share ideas.]


...I had two horses and a mouse on my list for crap's sake (two of which have already make it).

With all of the non-humans, I generally thought of them as "if I were that species"-type things.  Not that someone wanted - as a human - to romance a PonyTM or mouse.  :)

You have no idea how tempted I was to cut up one of your posts in a quote with the response "so you want to bone a dictionary?"

I thought better of it, and I'm lazy.
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Re: Loc: Top 54 Fictional Crushes Countdown
« Reply #279 on: February 19, 2012, 01:39:20 PM »
Something about lightsabers.

#9 Bastila Shan
   
   
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Appeal:

No-nonsense, a pure warrior.

Bio:
Bastila Shan was a Human female who served as a Jedi Knightduring the Jedi Civil War. Born on the planet Talravin to Helena Shanand a treasure hunter, her mother gave her up to the Jedi Order, believing that their lifestyle of travel and exertions was not suitable for the young Shan. Shan was found to have an exceptional gift with aForce power known as battle meditation; which increased her allies' morale while demoralizing her enemies. Shan sided with the Jedi Council when the Jedi Knights Revan and Malak rebelled against the Council and joined the Galactic Republic in its war against the invading Mandalorian Neo-Crusaders.

One year after the final battle of the Mandalorian Wars, Revan returned from the Unknown Regions as the new Dark Lord of the Sith, with Malak as his apprentice, at the head of a new Sith Empire. Two years into the Jedi Civil War, Shan was the leader of a Jedi strike team sent to capture Darth Revan and Darth Malak. When her team boarded Revan's vessel, they managed to corner the Dark Lord on the bridge. Before they could engage Revan in combat, Malak, who was separated from his Master during the battle, betrayed Revan by ordering the guns of his flagship Leviathan to fire on Revan's vessel in an attempt to destroy both the Jedi and Revan.
However, Shan survived and managed to use the Force to stabilize Revan, who was near death. This act created a bond between the two and Shan brought the comatose Revan to the Jedi Council. Both the Council and Shan came up with a plan and temporarily erased Revan's memories, reprogramming Revan with an identity of a soldierloyal to the Republic. The Council hoped that Shan, through her bond with Revan, would be able to coerce Revan into revealing the location of the Rakatan space station called the Star Forge, which was now under the new Dark Lord Darth Malak's control.

In the final year of the war, Shan's Republic warship Endar Spire wasambushed and attacked by Malak's fleet above the Outer Rim planet Taris. She managed to flee the ship aboard one of its escape pods, assisted by Republic commander Carth Onasi. Shortly after her pod reached the surface, Shan was captured by a swoop gang known as the Black Vulkars. After Revan and Onasi landed on Taris, they managed to track down and rescue Shan. She, Revan, and their companions teamed up with the MandalorianCanderous Ordo, managing to steal both the launch codes necessary to escape Taris and the Exchange crime lord Davik Kang's light freighter Ebon Hawk. Shan and her companions escaped during the Sith's bombardment of Taris, and headed to Dantooine, where a Jedi Enclave was located.

After Shan met with the Dantooine Jedi Council, they began retraining Revan in the Jedi ways. After finding a Rakatan Star Map in the burial mounds near the Enclave, the Council tasked Shan, Revan, and their companions with finding the Star Forge. During their travels, Shan watched Revan closely to ensure that he did not fall to thedark side. Shan eventually fell in love with Revan, who, despite his past, was able to remain true to the Jedi Code. After Revan found a fourth Star Map—which was necessary to locate the Star Forge—Shan was captured by Malak and fell to the dark side after a week of torture at her new Sith Master's hands.

However, Revan eventually confronted Shan aboard the Star Forge and she was redeemed from the darkness to which she had succumbed. To prove her reclaimed faith, Shan aided the Republic in the Battle of Rakata Primethrough means of her battle meditation. Revan then vanquished Malak, and the Republic fleet successfully destroyed the Star Forge, routing the Sith forces. Sometime after this, Shan and Revan married, and began a new life together. However, within the next two years, Revan left for the Unknown Regions, seeking to eliminate ahidden Sith threat that Revan had discovered during his time as the Dark Lord. He left all whom he cared for behind, including Shan due to her pregnancy, as he did not wish to put their child's life in danger. She went on to survive the era of strife that followed the Jedi Civil War.

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Re: Loc: Top 54 Fictional Crushes Countdown
« Reply #280 on: February 19, 2012, 02:02:07 PM »


#10 Kara “Starbuck” Thrace
   


Congratulations, you may all call yourself nerds (if you want to). She was my number 8, I beleive.
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Re: Loc: Top 54 Fictional Crushes Countdown
« Reply #281 on: February 19, 2012, 02:13:13 PM »


#10 Kara “Starbuck” Thrace
   


Congratulations, you may all call yourself nerds (if you want to). She was my number 8, I believe.

I'll do the honors.



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« Reply #282 on: February 19, 2012, 03:08:48 PM »
Admit it, you're drawn to me.

#8 Jessica Rabbit
   
   
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Appeal:

Sultry, breathy and is actually telling the truth when she says “I want a man who makes me laugh.”

Bio:
Jessica Rabbit is Roger's human Toon wife in Who Framed Roger Rabbit. In the book, she was an immoral, up-and-coming star and former comic character over whom her estranged husband (comic strip star Roger Rabbit) became obsessed. She is re-imagined in the film as a sultry, but moral, cartoon singer at a Los Angeles supper club called The Ink and Paint Club. She is one of several suspects in the framing of her husband, who is a famous cartoon star. She is voiced by Kathleen Turner. Amy Irving was cast to sing "Why Don't You Do Right?" (a blues song made famous by Peggy Lee) for Jessica's first scene in the movie.

Writer Gary K. Wolf had based Jessica primarily on the cartoon character Red of Tex Avery's Red Hot Riding Hood. According to animation director Richard Williams, other inspirations are Lauren Bacall, Rita Hayworth in Gilda (1946), and Veronica Lake (noted for her famous "Peek-A-Boo" hairstyle). Jessica is one of the most famous sex symbols on the animated screen. She claims to Eddie Valiant, "I'm not bad, I'm just drawn that way," which has become a popular quote. She deeply loves her husband Roger, claiming that he makes her laugh and that he makes a more fitting husband than Goofy. She is shown to have few of the comedic cartoon antics typical of other toons. One such example was her cleavage having a hammerspace ability as one of the weasels searched her (with obvious perverted intent) for Marvin Acme's last will and testament, only to comically get his hand caught in a bear trap and Valiant commenting on the event with a clever pun ("Nice booby trap"). Another could be her mild wild take seeing Judge Doom's scheme involving the Dip, while a subtle effect was added by animator Russell Hall: The bounce of Jessica's bosom was reversed from that of a real woman so that it would bounce up when a real woman's breasts bounce down and vice versa.

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Comedy
   
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Re: Loc: Top 54 Fictional Crushes Countdown
« Reply #283 on: February 19, 2012, 03:14:27 PM »
#8 Jessica Rabbit

She did well on my list, and as has been mentioned before with other characters, voice had a LOT to do with it.  Never knew who sang for her before, but she was chosen well.

Also, good background info there.  I remember being really surprised at all the differences between the original book and the movie.  Basically the only things they have in common are the fact that toons exist, they live in a place called Toontown, and characters with the same names are in both.

Oh, and one line from Baby Herman was only changed slightly.

One of the only examples I know of where the movie is far better than the book.
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Re: Loc: Top 54 Fictional Crushes Countdown
« Reply #284 on: February 19, 2012, 03:22:18 PM »
Looks like I've got my own "Twin Dilemma"

#7 Perpugilliam “Peri” Brown
   
   
(60 Points) 4 of 24 Lists - Highest Ranking - #3 TeamRAD
   
Appeal:
   
Being able to stand the sixth Doctor.  Also, physically attractive.
   
Bio:
She first appears in the Fifth Doctor serial Planet of Fire, in which she encounters the Doctor and Turlough on the island of Lanzarote. After an encounter with the Master and the shapechanging android Kamelion (who disguises himself as her stepfather, Professor Howard Foster), Peri asks to join the Fifth Doctor on his travels, while Turlough departs to return to his home planet of Trion.
Peri is present when the Fifth Doctor regenerates into the Sixth at the end of The Caves of Androzani and continues to travel with him, despite the fact that one of the first things the temporarily unstable Sixth Doctor does is try to strangle her (The Twin Dilemma).

Peri is a bright, spirited young woman in her early twenties, who travels with the Doctor because, like many of his companions, she wants to see the universe. Although she shares a more abrasive relationship with the Sixth Doctor, there is an undercurrent of affection in their verbal sparring.

Peri travels with the Doctor for an undisclosed period of time; some sources say she travels with him for mere months, while others say years. Between the events of Revelation of the Daleks and the season-long story The Trial of a Time Lord, the character is shown to have matured somewhat (coinciding with an 18-month production break between the two stories) and her relationship with the Doctor is less combative.

In the second segment of the Trial story arc, Mindwarp, Peri is abducted by a arthropod-like creature named Kiv, who apparently transplants his brain into her body. Soon after, the Doctor is led to believe that Peri is dead, and is severely distressed by this. It is later revealed at the end of The Ultimate Foe (the fourth segment of the arc) that the evidence of Peri's death was faked by the Valeyard. Peri has, in fact, survived, presumably recovered from Kiv's transplant (if it ever actually occurred), and married King Yrcanos of Thoros Alpha, a warrior king who had assisted the Doctor and Peri during the Mindwarp incident. It is not known what happens to Peri after she marries Yrcanos.

Peri was one of the more controversial companions, with some critics complaining about the motivation for adding a character who spent much of her time on screen wearing revealing outfits. Series producer John Nathan-Turner admitted that Peri was created to add sex appeal to the series. Similar criticisms had been leveled against the character of Leela nearly a decade earlier. Beginning with the story Timelash, and continuing through the Trial season, Peri's mode of dress became more conservative.

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White knights in cricket outfits.  Too a lesser extent, jerks in clown suits
   
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Having a slug brain in her body.  Am I the only one who was disturbed by that scene?  Even as a kid, I thought “man, this show got depressingly dark.”