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Re: That One Little Girl's 'Pony' Cartoon that's Slowly Devouring the Internet
« Reply #165 on: November 24, 2011, 08:56:37 AM »
So Shout Factory apparently handles MLP:FiM releases in North America - and Brian from the company has just given a very calm, collected and unfortunately probably pretty true explanation on their forums of why we'll probably only see single-disc releases of the show with only 4 or 5 episodes on them at a time:

http://www.equestriadaily.com/2011/11/more-in-depth-information-on-mlp-dvd.html

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I encourage you guys to peruse the forum through and through to find the number of times people have told me that the scope was far bigger than we could possibly imagine, only to find that we'd taken the chance and that the hundreds of thousands they promised resulted in hundreds...or...a couple thousand.

 But okay.

 For the sake of argument... For a four-disc complete first season, we'd probably need somewhere in the realm of 30,000-50,000 "sold through" for there to be the chance of a second full-season volume.  That means we didn't just sell them to stores (because they can return their copies for a complete refund anytime they want; and the more they return, the fewer they buy of the next volume--if any, at all), but we sold them to stores and the stores then sold them to you, the consumers.

 This is when you say, "Oh, there are WAY more than 30,000-50,000 fans! Piece of cake!"

 Okay.

 I have no problem with this.  I'm also a big fan of Community, but I don't need to own it.  And I'm a DVD/Blu-ray collector!  Just because there are incredible fans, their numbers don't traditionally translate to guaranteed sales.  There are a few notable exceptions to this rule: Star Wars and Star Trek have particularly large followings that also sell a lot of product.  But even with all of the merchandise those franchise have sold, imagine the number of people who love them without ever having bought an action figure or book or collectible lithograph, etc.  The percentage of Brony fans willing to BUY a $29.99-$39.99 complete season set must be high enough to warrant us spending the thousands of dollars it takes to produce, manufacture and market the set.

 Here's the biggest catch of all.

 Every one of those sets need to have been sold within North America.  We are only the North American distributor for My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic.  Hasbro has accepted our offer of an advance to license this show.  But they also have the option of accepting advances for licenses in every other territory in the world.  Again, while they're clearly creative and love the content, they're also a business that needs to profit in order to stay in business.  One of the best ways to do that is to break up the rights between territories.  Pesky to you, I understand.  But necessary to people like us.  After all, we don't want companies from other countries encroaching on what we paid a high price for.  So why should we encroach on another's territory?  Does that mean you can't buy it from Amazon or whatever?  Probably not.  From what I understand, Amazon couldn't care less where you live.  But we can't sell it to you directly, which is why...

 "...can't you just make it available online for fans?"

 There's another reason why we can't do this.  For starters, we don't have some lowly temp here to burn DVDs upon your request.  We manufacture everything we produce.  So that means there's a minimum number that has to be manufactured and, believe it or not, the fewer you make, the more expensive it is.  While I have no doubt there are enough Bronies out there to warrant a complete first season, are there enough that are A.) aware of the internet-only release? B.) Willing to buy an internet-only release?  C.) living in North America and willing to buy the internet-only release?  Again, believe it or not, not all Bronies hang out on the internet forums dedicated to My Little Pony.  Not all Bronies even realize they're called "Bronies."  If we can't get to them to let them know one of their favorite shows is available on DVD, how are we going to sell enough to validate spending the money and then expressly going against the wishes of the retailers, who've requested single discs releases that now have direct competition with a complete season set that's only available online?

 There's also the question of digital rights.  We're not guaranteed digital rights to every property we license.  We try.  God knows we try.  But studios are eager to keep those for themselves.  After all, it's yet another source of revenue for them.  Makes perfect sense.  I have no idea if we have the digital rights to these.  It's not my department.  If we do, maybe you'll see them appear on iTunes or something.  Not sure.  But, again, it would likely only be the episodes we're releasing at any given time.  Why would we want to compete with ourselves by providing you with the full season digitally, if we're in need of selling a high number of single-disc releases in order to continue making them??

 There are TONS of factors fans don't think about.  They just walk into Best Buy or Target and get upset when they see single-disc sets.  Or they don't see anything at all and that makes them even more upset.  They don't understand the money that goes into producing the series and they don't understand the money we need to make back in order to KEEP producing the series.

 Hasbro created a series for very young audiences.  Turns out adults like it, too.  But this isn't The Clone Wars.  Or even Transformers: Prime.  I'm sorry, gang.  But I just don't see a high liklihood that a "collectible" set for adult fans is going to get made anytime soon.  I'll happily cross my fingers for ya'.  I'm enjoying the show and would love to work on a more complete version.  But until something like that happens, I hope you enjoy the single disc releases as they're made available.

 Hope this helps answer some questions.

 Brian

It's a bit downing to hear, but kudos to him for being so honest.

It's funny how he mentions Community, yet Community has two full-season DVD sets. 
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Re: That One Little Girl's 'Pony' Cartoon that's Slowly Devouring the Internet
« Reply #167 on: December 10, 2011, 02:21:39 PM »
So...Loved the new episode. Especially when William Anderson started to go all James Horner with the chase music. Also, Twilight technically using portals on Spike, and the return of the SQUEE noise.

Ep. 12 synopsis rumour:

http://www.equestriadaily.com/2011/12/season-2-episode-12-family-appreciation.html

Episode Title: Family Appreciation Day
Synopsis: Apple Bloom doesn't want Granny Smith to embarrass her by speaking in her class.
Air Date: January 7th


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Re: That One Little Girl's 'Pony' Cartoon that's Slowly Devouring the Internet
« Reply #168 on: December 11, 2011, 10:16:50 AM »
Was disappointed at the start of the episode, with the element of generosity using manipulation to get that ruby.


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Re: That One Little Girl's 'Pony' Cartoon that's Slowly Devouring the Internet
« Reply #169 on: December 11, 2011, 10:25:01 AM »
I think people are overplaying Rarity's action there. The important part is that Spike was willing to give it to her. And it's not like she just squandered it when she got it, she made that necklace thing. It obviously meant a lot to her, since she was willing to keep it (and defend Spike for it) even when a massive dragon was carrying her up a mountain.


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Re: That One Little Girl's 'Pony' Cartoon that's Slowly Devouring the Internet
« Reply #171 on: December 14, 2011, 07:04:57 AM »
Another alicorn is coming, apparenrly:
Let the fanfic writers scream!


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Re: That One Little Girl's 'Pony' Cartoon that's Slowly Devouring the Internet
« Reply #172 on: December 14, 2011, 12:38:40 PM »
Luna's canon self didn't mess things up too much. I don't see this new girl doing too much either, assuming she's more on the one-shot side of things. A new, permanent addition to the royal family though, yeah, that'll mess things up a bit :P


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Re: That One Little Girl's 'Pony' Cartoon that's Slowly Devouring the Internet
« Reply #173 on: December 14, 2011, 01:42:09 PM »
Celestia's the only princess that matters.

Well, and Luna, but what has she done recently.


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Re: That One Little Girl's 'Pony' Cartoon that's Slowly Devouring the Internet
« Reply #174 on: December 14, 2011, 07:01:48 PM »
Overstepping her boundaries, that what she's done:

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Re: That One Little Girl's 'Pony' Cartoon that's Slowly Devouring the Internet
« Reply #175 on: December 15, 2011, 07:03:47 PM »
So the little compliation DVD is coming out soon - and apparently has this saturday's episode on it, plus another new episode that hasn't been mentioned yet ("The Last Roundup.") Interesting.

http://www.shoutfactorystore.com/prod.aspx?pfid=5257652


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Re: That One Little Girl's 'Pony' Cartoon that's Slowly Devouring the Internet
« Reply #176 on: December 16, 2011, 03:37:18 AM »
Trying to figure out a link between those episodes (difficult, given that we don't know the last one and I've yet to spoil myself on the fourth one). Maybe they're just doing it like the Adventure Time DVD, mostly a random spread.


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Re: That One Little Girl's 'Pony' Cartoon that's Slowly Devouring the Internet
« Reply #177 on: December 20, 2011, 09:03:18 AM »
EDIT: Episode 13 revealed:

http://www.equestriadaily.com/2011/12/s2e12-episode-name-and-title-revealed.html

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S2 Ep. 13

Title: Baby Cakes
Airdate: January 14, 2012
Synopsis: Pinkie Pie tries babysitting Cake's twin toddlers but finds it harder than she thought.

Now that's gonna be interesting.
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Re: That One Little Girl's 'Pony' Cartoon that's Slowly Devouring the Internet
« Reply #178 on: December 20, 2011, 10:21:39 AM »
Will it get us that leaked Pinkie song, though?

I had a discussion with someone over that recently *by which I mean mid November), who was quite adamant that such a song didn't really sound like something that would work in an actual episode, and was more something you'd find on an official soundtrack. I, having only hear it on accident and, not wanting to be spoiled, didn't listen very closely, didn't have much to refute it with other than the continual official statement that any sort of official soundtrack is so tied up in rights issues and red tape that it probably won't happen/

Point is, I need some sort of real release of that song to settle this matter. And because, from what little I did pay attention to, it's an awesome song.


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Re: That One Little Girl's 'Pony' Cartoon that's Slowly Devouring the Internet
« Reply #179 on: December 20, 2011, 10:29:22 AM »
EDIT: Episode 13 revealed:

http://www.equestriadaily.com/2011/12/s2e12-episode-name-and-title-revealed.html

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S2 Ep. 13

Title: Baby Cakes
Airdate: January 14, 2012
Synopsis: Pinkie Pie tries babysitting Cake's twin toddlers but finds it harder than she thought.

Now that's gonna be interesting.

Probability of leaked song being in this ep: Very high.
Also, where have the Cakes been hiding their kids all this time?