Which one is the theatrical version?

[Prince of Space 5049]

Okay, which one do we use to reauthor?
The one with time = 1:38:51,
or
The one with time = 1:39:00

[Relaxing Dragon]

I'm going to go out on a limb and say the shorter one is the Theatrical version. I can only think of a couple instances where the "New, Unrated!" cut is shorter than the regular one.

EDIT: Huh, go figure.

[spaceforarent]

The Unrated Version
Before the movie opened, Sam Raimi pointed something out about the rating on Ain't it Cool News, and nothing's changed: the PG-13 version of the film on this DVD runs 1 hour and 39 minutes, and the Unrated version on this DVD runs, well, 1 hour and 39 minutes. To be precise, the PG-13 cut runs 1:39:00, while the Unrated version runs 1:38:51. That's right, the Unrated version is actually nine seconds shorter than the PG-13 cut, the one single difference being an alternate (and, perhaps, less-effective but far more splattery) scene prior to Christine and Clay's dinner with Clay's parents.

Looks like it's the longer one. I meant to rip both, but when you do that it says the video is only 1:04:00, so I deleted them. I ripped one again, and actually played the video along with the dvd, and it seems it actually ripped right but something makes it look wrong. Hopefully I ripped the right one, otherwise it's back to Red Box.

[Dr. Whopoopeepee]

That's right, the Unrated version is actually nine seconds shorter than the PG-13 cut, the one single difference being an alternate (and, perhaps, less-effective but far more splattery) scene prior to Christine and Clay's dinner with Clay's parents.

Looks like it's the longer one. I meant to rip both, but when you do that it says the video is only 1:04:00, so I deleted them. I ripped one again, and actually played the video along with the dvd, and it seems it actually ripped right but something makes it look wrong. Hopefully I ripped the right one, otherwise it's back to Red Box.

Or maybe find those nine seconds of the rifftrax in Audacity, and remove them.  I've only got that version too,so hopefully they don't say much in those nine seconds.

[Conor]

Yeah, I believe our finding too was that the Theatrical version is actually longer.  Sounds like in the "unrated" one they just added nine seconds of goo to another scene.  Since that cut wasn't rated by the MPAA, they could slap Unrated all over the package to make people think it had more gore/boobies rather than just being some technical thing.

[spaceforarent]

Yeah, I believe our finding too was that the Theatrical version is actually longer.  Sounds like in the "unrated" one they just added nine seconds of goo to another scene.  Since that cut wasn't rated by the MPAA, they could slap Unrated all over the package to make people think it had more gore/boobies rather than just being some technical thing.

Well technically they removed the 9 seconds of goo, or rather replaced about 30 seconds of goo with some other goo. At least that's what my source tells me (I quoted that earlier post from dvdtalk.com)

[RoninFox]

Well, its stupid, but at least its on the same disc instead of using the "unrated" version to try and make people buy it twice

[jas722]

Well I seem to be having a bit of an issue when Syncing this release up 

I converted both the Unrated and Theatrical versions of the movie to an AVI, since I wasn't sure which was which. I figure I would put them both in Audacity with the Rifftrax Audio and use the one that Synced up. But my luck neither are   

They Both seem to match up fine until "Who comes begging to me" Sync Line. The Rifftrax Audio Sync Line appears at 21:54 (DVD Time) However the same line in the Unrated appears at 22:28 and Theatrical at 22:31.

Is anyone having the same problems?

Maybe it was a bad encode, I need to try the old fashion way to see if I'm having the same issue.

[RVR II]

Yeah, the .mp3 was longer than the movie in my Pinnacle program and I 'spliced and diced' Dis's sync lines around that time frame as well so I did what I could but after the 1 hour 30 minute time of the movie I just gave up and went with what I had..

[JoelTheB]

Just watched it through with the longer ripped version, and the reauthor worked just fine, even with the 1:04:00 time listing on Media Player Classic.  Even if you had the unrated version ripped, though, I'm sure it would probably work with a few adjustments.  From the "Alternate version" listing on IMDB, most of the differences are around the time the kitten gets killed (wow, two movies in a row with brutalized cats, is this going to be the new theme? ), so you'd just need to pay attention around there, I suppose.

[Axnollouse]

Yeah, I believe our finding too was that the Theatrical version is actually longer.  Sounds like in the "unrated" one they just added nine seconds of goo to another scene.  Since that cut wasn't rated by the MPAA, they could slap Unrated all over the package to make people think it had more gore/boobies rather than just being some technical thing.

From what I could tell the main differences were:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

The scene in the bank where she sprays blood and the cat muder scene. In the Unrated version it cuts to a close up of her stabbing and blood splashing on her

[RVR II]

Yeah, the .mp3 was longer than the movie in my Pinnacle program and I 'spliced and diced' Dis's sync lines around that time frame as well so I did what I could but after the 1 hour 30 minute time of the movie I just gave up and went with what I had..

EDIT: After further investigation, I had a bad burn of the movie that contributed Greatly to the sync issues so I'm reburning using another brand DVD and will recapture the movie tomorrow and resync the .mp3 and try again

[Dr. Whopoopeepee]

Well I seem to be having a bit of an issue when Syncing this release up 

I converted both the Unrated and Theatrical versions of the movie to an AVI, since I wasn't sure which was which. I figure I would put them both in Audacity with the Rifftrax Audio and use the one that Synced up. But my luck neither are   

They Both seem to match up fine until "Who comes begging to me" Sync Line. The Rifftrax Audio Sync Line appears at 21:54 (DVD Time) However the same line in the Unrated appears at 22:28 and Theatrical at 22:31.

Is anyone having the same problems?

Maybe it was a bad encode, I need to try the old fashion way to see if I'm having the same issue.

Could be a PAL vs NTSC thing, depending on where you are.

[jas722]

Well I seem to be having a bit of an issue when Syncing this release up 

I converted both the Unrated and Theatrical versions of the movie to an AVI, since I wasn't sure which was which. I figure I would put them both in Audacity with the Rifftrax Audio and use the one that Synced up. But my luck neither are   

They Both seem to match up fine until "Who comes begging to me" Sync Line. The Rifftrax Audio Sync Line appears at 21:54 (DVD Time) However the same line in the Unrated appears at 22:28 and Theatrical at 22:31.

Is anyone having the same problems?

Maybe it was a bad encode, I need to try the old fashion way to see if I'm having the same issue.

Could be a PAL vs NTSC thing, depending on where you are.

I'm using the NTSC Dvd, not sure what my problem is. The only other problem I ever had was Red Dawn which was caused by a different dvd version. I'll have to look more into this one. I'm wondering if it was a bad encode since the DVD has split branches for the Unrated and Theatrical versions.

Did anyone sync this up the old fashioned way? Problems?

[Prince of Space 5049]

I just finished reauthoring with the slightly longer version, and everything synced perfectly.  Lucky I chose the right one.  I hate going through all the editing to sync up.  I had some minor problems with Star Trek, but this one worked fine using the 1:39:00 version.