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Offline Rude

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Marvel Comics: Civil War
« on: January 13, 2007, 02:14:46 PM »
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Are any of you guys hooked on this thing? I took a long break from comics... but now that i work so close to a comic book store, a quick trip during my lunch break has become a regular thing. I need something quick and easy to read while i scarf down a sandwhich or whatever, ya' know?

Anyway, this whole Civil War thing is pretty lame. I thought Marvel had learned their lesson, but this crossover thing is pretty big. Although, i've only picked up the actual Civil War comics... not any of the tie-ins. It's just so gimmicky and predictable... putting Spider-Man and Captain American on exactly the opposite sides that their characters would take? Lame.

I won't go too into the whole thing in case i'm tipping my hand on my own personal geek factor. But the "choose your side" thing is pretty weak. And the fact that superheros decide that a law passed by the people doesn't sit right with them, so they're going to war over it... also weak.

So, um... End Of Rant.

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Re: Marvel Comics: Civil War
« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2007, 02:47:04 PM »
If you're going to pick up comis after a break, treat yourself to some quality instead: Y: The Last Man, Ex Machina, 100 Bullets, DMZ, Hellboy, Fables... There's a lot of quality out there, and not much of it is about superheroes.

Here's a sig graphic I made for another board where several of the other posters have these Civil War "taking sides" images in their signatures.
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Re: Marvel Comics: Civil War
« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2007, 03:29:18 PM »
If you're going to pick up comis after a break, treat yourself to some quality instead: Y: The Last Man, Ex Machina, 100 Bullets, DMZ, Hellboy, Fables... There's a lot of quality out there, and not much of it is about superheroes.

Amen, brother.  I quit monthly comics awhile back, but I still pick up the trades of Y, Fables, and Ex Machina.  I also really enjoy The Walking Dead.


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Re: Marvel Comics: Civil War
« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2007, 03:33:07 PM »
My favorite new comic is easily Invincible simply awesome comic book. Worth getting the TPB. Also Astonishing X-men has been great and it looks like the new buffy season eight comic should be great.

You can't go wrong with all three of those.

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Re: Marvel Comics: Civil War
« Reply #4 on: January 13, 2007, 03:35:04 PM »
Oh and as for Civil War...I have only read the first three issues and to me it has been pretty cool but some of the stuff like others have stated seems completely out of character....Spidey revealing his identity? WHAA?!
but some of the other stuff has been really awesome like Cap starting a underground resistance and Tony Stark turning into the super villain that has been inside of him all along....

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Re: Marvel Comics: Civil War
« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2007, 03:55:55 PM »
As a Marvel zombie, I must admit that Civil War and most of its tie-ins are quite addictive, but mostly in a train wreck way. It's like Marvel feels compelled to be the anti-DC and change everything. Joe Quesada likes to talk about genies and bottles. Well, as much fun as I'm having reading Civil War, it's one big ass genie that they'll have to cram back in.

Not to mention they've got a big-budget, live-action Iron man movie in the works just as they make Tony Stark the arch-villain of the Marvel Universe. Smart one. ::)


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Re: Marvel Comics: Civil War
« Reply #6 on: January 14, 2007, 01:30:39 AM »
I've actually only recently become a big comic reader (House of M hooked me, and now Civil War's keeping me hooked) and I've been enjoying the main story, but I have more fun reading all the tie-ins. Front Line has been really cool and the Spider Man comics have gone in cool directions since Peter Parker unmasked.

But I'm a Hulk fan. Planet Hulk has been awesome and I can't WAIT to see what this "World War Hulk" is gonna be all about. All I know is it's been many, many issues since Hulk's been calm enough to turn into Banner.. :^)


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Re: Marvel Comics: Civil War
« Reply #7 on: February 19, 2007, 12:12:43 AM »
   Thought I would move this up in line since this is the week the final issue is supposed to ship.
   Will they find some way to erase Spider-Man's secret identity from all humanity?  How long will it take before Iron Man and Captain America completely forget about it?  Will any of the "permanent" changes last longer than 6 months?  Will the most interesting thing be when the Hulk returns to Earth and wants to trash everybody who tried to dump him on another planet?   Will Marvel find some magical way to get all the movie goers who will buy Spider-Man 3 tickets to show some interest in the actual comic books again?


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Re: Marvel Comics: Civil War
« Reply #8 on: February 19, 2007, 12:21:52 AM »
   Thought I would move this up in line since this is the week the final issue is supposed to ship.
   Will they find some way to erase Spider-Man's secret identity from all humanity?  How long will it take before Iron Man and Captain America completely forget about it?  Will any of the "permanent" changes last longer than 6 months?  Will the most interesting thing be when the Hulk returns to Earth and wants to trash everybody who tried to dump him on another planet?   Will Marvel find some magical way to get all the movie goers who will buy Spider-Man 3 tickets to show some interest in the actual comic books again?
I think Spider-Man's cat is out of the bag for good. It gives his comic a fresh shot of adrenaline and I don't really see how they can undo what's been done so far.
Iron Man and Captain America, however, WILL forget about it and bring it up on occasion whenever the situation calls for it in true Marvel fashion. :^)
I think the registration act could go either way. Even if Captain America "wins" it's still supposed to be a government mandate. They could throw the law out the window, or they could keep it, but dethrone Iron Man. It could provide some neat story twists in Marvel comics to come to keep registration around.
The most interesting thing will, indeed, be seeing Hulk come back to take on Earth. I know I can't wait for it. :^)
Marvel's magical way of getting 'em interested in the comic is to bring back the black suit. They haven't explained why they stuck him back in the suit yet, but everyone KNOWS why he REALLY did it. :^)


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Re: Marvel Comics: Civil War
« Reply #9 on: February 19, 2007, 11:08:09 AM »
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Oh yeah... that series still hasn't ended yet, huh? I wouldn't worry about whether Marvel plans on hitting the "reset" button anytime soon, though. This series is going to go on and on and on... Every title carries some sort of "war" banner across it's front cover these days. And i imagine they're all going to for a long time.

Even Ghost Rider had some Civil War thread this month. And i made the mistake of buying a tie-in issue called The Return. (Does anyone even care about Captain Marvel?) I'm guessing that sort of thing will last for awhile. But as far as permanent? I think Spiderman's identity is out there... that's about it~

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Re: Marvel Comics: Civil War
« Reply #10 on: February 21, 2007, 08:18:49 PM »
Well I read Issue 7. It was surprising...

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Re: Marvel Comics: Civil War
« Reply #11 on: February 22, 2007, 08:31:11 PM »
Well, I'm on the "Yeah, that didn't work" side of the Civil War debate.  Nothing worked, logic wise. I didn't buy the whole "New Warriors are teh suck!" bit. I didn't buy the reaction to Stamford. I didn't buy the "OMG! We need registration!" bit. The prison in the dimension that causes people to go insane? Ooh. Good idea there. Reed's rationale for joining up kept changing from comic to comic. Pete's unmasking? Clone Thor? Seriously? Captain Mar-Vell coming back to life?  Sigh. And who the heck thought, "Hey, let's give the Green Goblin control of a government sponsored group of thinly reformed super villians! Surely nothing will go wrong there!" (At least on that one, I have that Warren Ellis will make it interesting. He seems to be operating with the idea of "Let's show people why this is a bad idea.") 

And the ending, which I won't mention here to keep from spoiling it, was rather unsatisfying. At this point, I think I'm rooting for the Hulk to level the entire 616 universe when he gets back. Except for Nextwave. And Squirrel Girl, who would totally mop the floor with the Hulk. Look, I know it sold well, but both companies? Can you lay off the "World

On the bright side, I can recommend "The Civil War in 30 Seconds", which is found over here:
http://the-isb.blogspot.com/2007/02/civil-war-in-30-seconds.html


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Re: Marvel Comics: Civil War
« Reply #12 on: February 24, 2007, 06:26:34 PM »
I definitely recommend hunting for titles that will end. This on-and-on-and-on-and-on thing with Xmen, Superman, Batman, and all those other titles that never end is just a money drain. Just like games these days that have "booster packs". It's all a rip-off.

Anyway, George R. R. Martin's "Hedge Knight" is a good 6 issue or so series that was recently combined into a hardback graphic novel format (and trade paperback before that). I remember the old 6 issue 'On a Pale Horse 6' series long ago based on Piers Anthony's book by the same name had really good art, not that that helps you with current titles I know.


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Re: Marvel Comics: Civil War
« Reply #13 on: February 27, 2007, 05:50:25 PM »
Personally, I think that Superheroes only work in fiction if they are few and far between. Too many cooks spoil the broth, and too many crossovers and characters in a profession that is by its nature a job for the few and the proud results in pages being soaked with the ink of a massive greed-induced fangasm.
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Re: Marvel Comics: Civil War
« Reply #14 on: February 27, 2007, 08:25:15 PM »
...pages being soaked with the ink of a massive greed-induced fangasm.


Eeewwww... That line made me throw up a little bit in my mouth. I never wanna' hear the words "soaked" and "fangasm" together in the same sentence again, okay everyone?

In psuedo-related news: I picked up the new animated Iron Man movie. It was kinda' fun and entertaining. And, after having Iron Man shoved down my throat as a result of this Civil War craptacular, i've decided to check out the character in comics. Unfortunately, i think he's now featured in about 10 different monthly titles~ Damn you Marvel, you greedy bastards!

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