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Re: Sci-Fi's Biggest Cliché!
« Reply #15 on: May 20, 2009, 08:29:52 AM »
The bad guy falls down a giant shaft of some sort.

1. Return Of The Jedi
2. Star Trek III: The Search for Spock
3. Star Trek (2009)
4. Alien 3
5. Total Recall
6. Star Wars: The Phantom Menace
7.  Star Trek: Nemesis
8. X-Men Origins: Wolverine
9. Iron Man
10. Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade (albiet this time a woman)
11. Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom


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Re: Sci-Fi's Biggest Cliché!
« Reply #16 on: May 20, 2009, 09:28:35 AM »
The bad guy falls down a giant shaft of some sort.

1. Return Of The Jedi
2. Star Trek III: The Search for Spock
3. Star Trek (2009)
4. Alien 3
5. Total Recall
6. Star Wars: The Phantom Menace
7.  Star Trek: Nemesis
8. X-Men Origins: Wolverine
9. Iron Man
10. Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade (albiet this time a woman)
11. Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom
The last two really aren't sci-fi



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Re: Sci-Fi's Biggest Cliché!
« Reply #17 on: May 20, 2009, 09:34:25 AM »
The bad guy falls down a giant shaft of some sort.

1. Return Of The Jedi
2. Star Trek III: The Search for Spock
3. Star Trek (2009)
4. Alien 3
5. Total Recall
6. Star Wars: The Phantom Menace
7.  Star Trek: Nemesis
8. X-Men Origins: Wolverine
9. Iron Man
10. Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade (albiet this time a woman)
11. Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom
The last two really aren't sci-fi
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Re: Sci-Fi's Biggest Cliché!
« Reply #18 on: May 20, 2009, 09:39:34 AM »
OIC. Yeah, that's true. More action/adventure.


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Re: Sci-Fi's Biggest Cliché!
« Reply #19 on: May 20, 2009, 09:58:09 AM »
OIC. Yeah, that's true. More action/adventure.
The fantasty/magical aspect of the items that Indy is searching for (the Holy Grail and that magic rock) don't make up for it?


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Re: Sci-Fi's Biggest Cliché!
« Reply #20 on: May 20, 2009, 10:14:39 AM »
OIC. Yeah, that's true. More action/adventure.
The fantasty/magical aspect of the items that Indy is searching for (the Holy Grail and that magic rock) don't make up for it?

I think that's an implication of an adventure movie. I guess you could tag it with fantasy, but I don't see science fiction.
 


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Re: Sci-Fi's Biggest Cliché!
« Reply #21 on: May 20, 2009, 10:31:16 AM »
OIC. Yeah, that's true. More action/adventure.
The fantasty/magical aspect of the items that Indy is searching for (the Holy Grail and that magic rock) don't make up for it?

I think that's an implication of an adventure movie. I guess you could tag it with fantasy, but I don't see science fiction.

There's no attempt to explain anything in the first 3 Indy movies "scientifically."  Even Star Wars, which has much more of a "fantasy" blueprint than a sci-fi one has some sci-fi elements.   I'd allow Indy 4 as Sci-Fi though.

Doesn't the fact that in Indy 3 they survive that fall in the inflatable raft and they jump the gap in the railroad tracks and land on the other side with no problem "Science Fiction" in it's most pure form?  ;)

1. Return Of The Jedi
2. Star Trek III: The Search for Spock
3. Star Trek (2009)
4. Alien 3
5. Total Recall
6. Star Wars: The Phantom Menace
7.  Star Trek: Nemesis
8. X-Men Origins: Wolverine
9. Iron Man
10. Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade (albiet this time a woman)

Of course, since I haven't seen Wolverine, I'm assuming that that's definately science fiction and not just fantasy/adventure.  (No offense, Tripe)  Mutants are born, not made.


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Re: Sci-Fi's Biggest Cliché!
« Reply #22 on: May 20, 2009, 10:39:42 AM »
OIC. Yeah, that's true. More action/adventure.
The fantasty/magical aspect of the items that Indy is searching for (the Holy Grail and that magic rock) don't make up for it?

I think that's an implication of an adventure movie. I guess you could tag it with fantasy, but I don't see science fiction.

There's no attempt to explain anything in the first 3 Indy movies "scientifically."  Even Star Wars, which has much more of a "fantasy" blueprint than a sci-fi one has some sci-fi elements.   I'd allow Indy 4 as Sci-Fi though.

Doesn't the fact that in Indy 3 they survive that fall in the inflatable raft and they jump the gap in the railroad tracks and land on the other side with no problem "Science Fiction" in it's most pure form?  ;)

Well, physics is a facet of science, and that would be physics fiction. Sooooo...kinda. But I don't agree. Which of course doesn't make it wrong.


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Re: Sci-Fi's Biggest Cliché!
« Reply #23 on: May 20, 2009, 10:40:34 AM »
Villain falls down "Shaft" of some kind

1. Return Of The Jedi
2. Star Trek III: The Search for Spock
3. Star Trek (2009)
4. Alien 3
5. Total Recall
6. Star Wars: The Phantom Menace
7.  Star Trek: Nemesis
8. X-Men Origins: Wolverine
9. Iron Man
10. Robocop


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Re: Sci-Fi's Biggest Cliché!
« Reply #24 on: May 20, 2009, 12:06:23 PM »
Mutants are born, not made.

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Re: Sci-Fi's Biggest Cliché!
« Reply #25 on: May 20, 2009, 12:10:24 PM »
Wait wait, some of these "shafts" are quite clearly just cliffs.  I don't think those count.


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Re: Sci-Fi's Biggest Cliché!
« Reply #26 on: May 20, 2009, 12:39:21 PM »

Voice-over narration that in no way clarifies what the hell is going on.

1. Dune
2. Blade Runner
3. Mystery Science Theater 3000: The Movie
4.  A Scanner, Darkly
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Re: Sci-Fi's Biggest Cliché!
« Reply #27 on: May 20, 2009, 01:04:17 PM »

Voice-over narration that in no way clarifies what the hell is going on.

1. Dune
2. Blade Runner
3. Mystery Science Theater 3000: The Movie
4.  A Scanner, Darkly
I was just kedding about MST3K:TM. I was jokingly reerring to their riffs of This Island Earth as narration that clarifies nothing.



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Re: Sci-Fi's Biggest Cliché!
« Reply #28 on: May 20, 2009, 01:05:51 PM »
Voice-over narration that in no way clarifies what the hell is going on.

1. Dune
2. Blade Runner
3. The Creeping Terror
4.  A Scanner, Darkly

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Re: Sci-Fi's Biggest Cliché!
« Reply #29 on: May 20, 2009, 01:06:51 PM »
Voice-over narration that in no way clarifies what the hell is going on.
3. The Creeping Terror
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