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Offline Aaron Haynes

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Re: Riffable Games
« Reply #30 on: January 27, 2007, 02:40:26 AM »
I've been looking into the possibility of recording speedruns of games (cutscenes included) and then riffing them. I imagine Metal Gear Solid 2 being great fodder for this sort of thing.


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Re: Riffable Games
« Reply #31 on: January 27, 2007, 03:29:29 AM »
I've been looking into the possibility of recording speedruns of games (cutscenes included) and then riffing them. I imagine Metal Gear Solid 2 being great fodder for this sort of thing.

I have a pet project which is a similar - but totally opposite - idea, if that makes any sense. I doubt anything will ever come of it, but I know I'll be pitching it repeatedly once i've worked out the kinks.

If you record speedruns you miss out on a great deal of the so-bad-it's-funny stuff. And there's always a lot of tricks and exploits which wouldn't sit well with riffing it like a movie.

If you were to do that, it would make more sense to explore a game until you know it inside out, then record playing the game as if it were your first time through except with a planned route to take in all the funnies. Then edit it for the highlights and riff it like that so it doesn't get dull.

Just my thoughts on the issue.
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Re: Riffable Games
« Reply #32 on: January 27, 2007, 03:51:17 PM »
Yep, that was the idea. Traditional speedruns focus heavily on sequence breaks and the fastest methods for moving through the game rather than the most entertaining. This would be heavily researched and rehearsed to achieve the best combination of cutscenes, optional conversations, easter eggs, and entertaining in-game moments.


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Re: Riffable Games
« Reply #33 on: January 27, 2007, 04:23:44 PM »
i say MGS 1 not two, its a faster playthrough which would give you more time to show off tricks.


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Re: Riffable Games
« Reply #34 on: January 28, 2007, 04:00:27 PM »
Two words: Night Trap.

Ding ding ding we have a winner folks.

For what it's worth, Seanbaby (yes, I'm bringing him up again) makes a career out of doing the closest thing possible to riffing videogames. It's probably funnier than what Mike Nelson would be able to come up with, I dare say. Nothing against him, but I doubt he has the requisite nerd-knowledge of videogames.

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That's a fun article.  I actually owned Night Trap when I was younger and it was truly awful.  I could never get very far into it though, as I was more concerned with the possibly nudity of the girls rather than saving them.  Anyone know of a website with the video of the game on it?

Here are most of the sequences edited into a movie=format:

Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUinUNuM3xk

Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyfsoLfOK4A

Part 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5KaHvfucds

Part 4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PYEPka6nQo

Part 5: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDkyxxr8PQg

And here's a documentary on the game with some behind the scenes footage and a reprise of the theme song that caused so, so many suicides: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHvrFClZeoM

PS - Keep in mind I only found all this, and did not upload any of it.


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Re: Riffable Games
« Reply #35 on: January 28, 2007, 05:39:30 PM »
And here's a documentary on the game with some behind the scenes footage and a reprise of the theme song that caused so, so many suicides: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHvrFClZeoM

PS - Keep in mind I only found all this, and did not upload any of it.

Thanks for the links, but after writing that post I actually had a quick search on the internet(s) and found a site called www.fmvworld.com which streams a lot of the FMV from games from around that time! I haven't seen the documentary, though.  Cheers!


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Re: Riffable Games
« Reply #36 on: January 28, 2007, 10:54:23 PM »
i say MGS 1 not two, its a faster playthrough which would give you more time to show off tricks.
The idea is that MGS2's plot is extremely riffable. ;)


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Re: Riffable Games
« Reply #37 on: January 29, 2007, 09:17:01 AM »
mgs1 has a plenty riffable plot :)


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Re: Riffable Games
« Reply #38 on: January 29, 2007, 09:36:10 AM »
mgs1 has a plenty riffable plot :)

Maybe so, but it has the virtue of pretty much making sense.

MGS2 is somewhat baffling.
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Re: Riffable Games
« Reply #39 on: January 29, 2007, 09:38:53 AM »
mgs2 made plenty of sense to me.  Its much better though on a second playthrough i admit.


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Re: Riffable Games
« Reply #40 on: January 29, 2007, 10:50:55 AM »
Didn't the PC version of Rebel Assault II have an MST3K Easter Egg?  There has to be SOMEONE in this incredibly geeky forum who can verify this.

The egg you are probably remembering was the invincibility cheat code for Wing Commander III (the first one with all the FMV and Mark Hamill etc..)
You'd put in the cheat, launch into space and at the load screen you'd hear a familiar sound clip going
"Mitchell!"


I guess I win the incredibly geeky prize...


Oh and after watching the Night Watch stuff (just as a film...I somehow avoided playing it back in the day....) it is INCREDIBLY riff worthy. It is hysterical!
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Re: Riffable Games
« Reply #41 on: January 29, 2007, 11:55:36 AM »
No, Rebel Assault did have an MST3k easter egg.


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Re: Riffable Games
« Reply #42 on: January 29, 2007, 12:12:21 PM »
No, Rebel Assault did have an MST3k easter egg.

Where is Rebel Assaults? I think I had this before...may still have it lying around somewhere. It seems that game developers in general like MST3K.
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Re: Riffable Games
« Reply #43 on: January 30, 2007, 09:51:10 AM »
mgs2 made plenty of sense to me.  Its much better though on a second playthrough i admit.

I agree that it generally makes sense and the overall themes are pretty well laid-out throughout the game as they tie into the final codec conversation. There are actually a number of effective callbacks to some of the S3 stuff if you go digging for them. It's just that the cutscenes are stuffed with awkward pauses and weird dialogue and line deliveries, and there's a lot of stuff that really should've ended up on the metaphorical cutting room floor. I love it to death, but it seriously needed an edit job with a hacksaw.


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Re: Riffable Games
« Reply #44 on: January 30, 2007, 09:59:24 AM »
hehe true enough i spose.  I absolutely love the mgs series though, im pretty much gonna go myself a big $600 MGS4 playing machine :)