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Ray Dennis Steckler interview
« on: November 25, 2008, 01:36:56 PM »
Don't know if this has been referenced but I ran across it today.  An interview with Ray Dennis Steckler in which he mentions MST3000:



http://www.crazedfanboy.com/spotlight/raysteckler.html


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Re: Ray Dennis Steckler interview
« Reply #1 on: November 25, 2008, 01:46:48 PM »
looking at the list of movies he has made i think he is just mad because they riffed on the best movie he made.


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Re: Ray Dennis Steckler interview
« Reply #2 on: November 25, 2008, 02:11:43 PM »
Well, GOOD!
Glad to read another 'mediocre' film maker got a reality check :clap: :clap:


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Re: Ray Dennis Steckler interview
« Reply #3 on: November 25, 2008, 02:23:48 PM »
I wonder if he was a fan of other episodes...like Time Chasers  :D


For a second I was really scared cause I thought they would never release Mixed up Zombies episdoe on DVD. But now I remember they already did.


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Re: Ray Dennis Steckler interview
« Reply #4 on: November 25, 2008, 02:41:13 PM »
I did not need the kind of racist, sexist and even anti-Semitic remarks those guys made.

And pray tell what ones were those? I don't recall them every being racist, sexist, or anti-semetic. If they did they were mocking a racist character and speaking as him. But for the life of me I don't remember any of those type jokes directed at RDS or his turd of a film. I think he is another movie guy with his panties in a bunch because he thinks his work is gold and having someone ridicule it for the massive turd it is is sacrilegious.

Joe Don Baker is another guy who hates them because they called him a fat slob. Sadly he is one.




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Re: Ray Dennis Steckler interview
« Reply #5 on: November 25, 2008, 02:53:53 PM »
I did not need the kind of racist, sexist and even anti-Semitic remarks those guys made.

And pray tell what ones were those? I don't recall them every being racist, sexist, or anti-semetic.

Racist : "The other Gumble Brother"

Sexist: "She's the most masculine man I've ever seen."

Anti-Semitic: The "Sig Heil"ing while the dancers were doing their routine.

Overblown and myopic?  Of course.  Sincere disgust?  I doubt it.  I still say he complained to The Sci-Fi Channel hoping they'd offer him more money to show it (and instead they folded).

Like the then head of the BBC said at the time when asked about Monty Python's Flying Circus: "There are some people who should be offended and often." or words to that effect.


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Re: Ray Dennis Steckler interview
« Reply #6 on: November 25, 2008, 04:41:01 PM »
I noticed he talks as if they riffed a lot of his movies, even though they only riffed one of them. (Two if you count Eegah! where he had a brief cameo and did some cinematography work.) It's possible he could have been mad about them making fun of fellow B-movie director Coleman Francis too, since they were apparently friends. "Great" minds think alike I suppose. Not only is he greatly offended to the point where he sounds like he's talking about a different show, both he and the interviewer seem to be incredibly out of touch considering the show's continuing popularity through DVD releases. I'm a little surprised at how much the interviewer sucks up to him though, because I assume a) he's seen at least some of this guy's movies, and b) he's got an internet connection so about 5 minutes of research can tell him that just because the show got cancelled doesn't mean their efforts toward "horribly insulting" movies was a passing fad. Far from it. I wonder if it would make them feel worse that movies are continuing to be riffed, or better since most of the films on Rifftrax show how they have no respect for what a filmmaker goes through with lots of money. Based on his earlier argument, his hate should now be directed towards Cinematic Titanic, since they're still making fun of his type of films.

I like this great bit of sucking up. According to interviewer Ed Tucker, Mr. Steckler "is highly opinionated about his profession but shares these opinions with such an air of honesty and a lack of pretension that it is hard not to get caught in his jet stream of consciousness." (Almost sounds like something out of a romance novel.) I'd have a lack of pretension too if my most famous works included "The Incredibly Strange Creatures Who Stopped Living and Became Mixed Up Zombies" and "The Thrill Killers." I'd also be thankful if a cable show was giving my films exposure 30 years after the fact.

You guys should check out his homepage:  http://www.raydennissteckler.com/  He looks so thrilled to have his picture taken. Maybe he's the real unibomber. But he's 70 years old now, so I almost feel bad about making fun of him....almost.

Another page you guys might want to look at is an IMDB post where they were also discussing the interview.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0057181/board/thread/59627960?d=59627960&p=1#59627960
Some of my favorite comments were by Creeping-Death and  Doc_Gibbons84. I also think that Umberto_Scalli's reply is amusing, but for other reasons. He tries to convince people that this movie had a "good reputation" before MST3K packaged it as a bad movie. I'm just surprised - although I shouldn't be - that there's someone who actually thinks that nobody thought the movie was bad until MST3K made it "seem" that way. That just shows a lack of research combined with an incredible amount of denial and/or mind altering substances. "There are hateful comments toward the movie directed by those under MST3K influence..." (I'm sorry officer, I've apparently been under MST3K influence. I shouldn't be driving in my condition.  ::) ) Honestly, I think Steckler was taking about all his critics and kind of lumping them together in that MST3K comment. Incredibly Strange Creatures was considered one of the worst films ever made long before Mike and the Bots said anything about it, despite Umberto_Scalli's statements to the contrary, and I'm guessing other people were nastier in their comments.

In a side note, I'm not sure what it is about run down amusement parks that attracts the attention of B-movie makers, Incredibly Strange Creatures features the Nu-Pike Amusement Zone in Long Beach, California during it's decline, Carnival of Souls features an abandoned Morman amusement park, and Santa and the Ice Cream Bunny was shot in a Florida theme park that closed not long after that. It's almost like B-movie directors could be compared to Batman villians, taking shelter in abandoned amusement parks to fulfill their plans.
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Re: Ray Dennis Steckler interview
« Reply #7 on: November 26, 2008, 06:30:03 AM »
I did not need the kind of racist, sexist and even anti-Semitic remarks those guys made.

And pray tell what ones were those? I don't recall them every being racist, sexist, or anti-semetic.

Racist : "The other Gumble Brother"

Sexist: "She's the most masculine man I've ever seen."

Anti-Semitic: The "Sig Heil"ing while the dancers were doing their routine.

Overblown and myopic?  Of course.  Sincere disgust?  I doubt it.  I still say he complained to The Sci-Fi Channel hoping they'd offer him more money to show it (and instead they folded).

Like the then head of the BBC said at the time when asked about Monty Python's Flying Circus: "There are some people who should be offended and often." or words to that effect.

That's it? Ok saying that some guy looks like someone else's brother (who happens to be a different race) is racist? Making fun of a woman who looks manish and making a joke about it is sexist? Making a joke that the dance routine looks like the sig hiel is anti-semetic? Not really it is making a reference to people who were, but not saying anything nasty about jews.

Now if Mike/Kev/Bill said in an interview or seriously said stuff like "Black people are lazy good for nothings." or "Women should only be in a kitchen and serve their man." or "Jews are a major cause of the world's problems." Yeah THEN I would agree that they are racist/antisemetic/sexist. But making jokes like they did are not that bad. They are mocking the individual person or a negative culture.




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Re: Ray Dennis Steckler interview
« Reply #8 on: November 26, 2008, 06:38:41 AM »
Like the then head of the BBC said at the time when asked about Monty Python's Flying Circus: "There are some people who should be offended and often." or words to that effect.

That sounds like the great Hugh Greene. I'm not sure as I can't find a reference for it but he definitely had that view.


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Re: Ray Dennis Steckler interview
« Reply #9 on: November 26, 2008, 07:25:50 AM »
A few things.  If RDS is so proud of his films and the "hard work" that goes into them you'd think he'd use far less pseudonyms for his roles.  I noticed his list of films on his site is missing a LOT of his works namely his lower grade flesh-pics done under other names.  I guess the strategy is to make films under pseudonyms thenif they turn out okay he can lay claim to them and if they turn out to be real stinkers he can simply not claim them.  Convenient how that works.  Just think, if Peter Jackson had done that he would never have to live with the shame that is "King Kong" (nor would Adrien Brody, Naomi Watts and every other person attached to the film). 

Secondly,  take a look at this from his site:




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Re: Ray Dennis Steckler interview
« Reply #10 on: November 26, 2008, 08:54:14 AM »
Also, it's nice to see that they realized "sequel" was spelled wrong, but their version of "extension" just slipped right on by there.


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Re: Ray Dennis Steckler interview
« Reply #11 on: November 26, 2008, 09:10:57 AM »
I have to wonder, just how "famous" these sorts of films would be without MST3k? There are plenty of crappy movies out there, but only the ones that a lot of people point at and laugh become notorious.


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Re: Ray Dennis Steckler interview
« Reply #12 on: November 26, 2008, 09:16:50 AM »
I have to wonder, just how "famous" these sorts of films would be without MST3k? There are plenty of crappy movies out there, but only the ones that a lot of people point at and laugh become notorious.

First time I heard of ISCWSLABMUZ was the movie It Came From Hollywood - another case of mocking bad films for fun and profit - and all they used was part of the trailer.


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Re: Ray Dennis Steckler interview
« Reply #13 on: November 26, 2008, 11:46:33 AM »
I did not need the kind of racist, sexist and even anti-Semitic remarks those guys made.

And pray tell what ones were those? I don't recall them every being racist, sexist, or anti-semetic.

Racist : "The other Gumble Brother"

Sexist: "She's the most masculine man I've ever seen."

Anti-Semitic: The "Sig Heil"ing while the dancers were doing their routine.

Overblown and myopic?  Of course.  Sincere disgust?  I doubt it.  I still say he complained to The Sci-Fi Channel hoping they'd offer him more money to show it (and instead they folded).

Like the then head of the BBC said at the time when asked about Monty Python's Flying Circus: "There are some people who should be offended and often." or words to that effect.
hmm...not really seeing any of that as racist or sexist.

actually i thought the movie itself was sexist, like many of the same era i suppose.  "i thought we agreed that what i say goes..." he says to his hapless gf who understandably doesn't  want to go to a strip show, for example.

and racist...i still have no idea what was up with that last dance bit with the white guys in stereotypical african native attire but in white face paint...

i understand that movie makers and actors would not be particularly thrilled to find themselves on the wrong end of a good riff but they are on mst3k for a reason, they just aren't great movies :P

i would also be willing to bet that just appearing as a mst3k episode did more for dvd sales of the uncut versions and, if applicable, they got paid for the license for using the movie so...that alone is more than they were getting for their long forgotten crap movie beforehand  ;D


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Re: Ray Dennis Steckler interview
« Reply #14 on: November 26, 2008, 01:18:42 PM »
Also, it's nice to see that they realized "sequel" was spelled wrong, but their version of "extension" just slipped right on by there.

I actually added that "sic" to the sequel misspelling.  I didn't notice the other one.