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Re: The Economic Downturn..
« Reply #330 on: October 13, 2010, 05:01:58 PM »
Nah the Porn industry is 'shut down' currently so I doubt that's it..

Really? It always seemed like they had alot of openings to fill.  :D
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Here's the article..

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2010/10/13/hiv-positive-porn-star-shuts-industry/


I actually was wondering how you knew this tidbit of information, RVR. I had secret hopes that you actually had some sort of in with the porn industry (no pun intended).
I am quite sad about this news at the moment :'(

 ;D :P


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Re: The Economic Downturn..
« Reply #331 on: October 13, 2010, 05:09:28 PM »
Nah the Porn industry is 'shut down' currently so I doubt that's it..

Really? It always seemed like they had alot of openings to fill.  :D
:rimshot:
Here's the article..

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2010/10/13/hiv-positive-porn-star-shuts-industry/


I actually was wondering how you knew this tidbit of information, RVR. I had secret hopes that you actually had some sort of in with the porn industry (no pun intended).

It actually came across my MSNBC.com news feed on my Droid about 20 minutes after he posted it on here.


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Re: The Economic Downturn..
« Reply #332 on: October 13, 2010, 09:27:16 PM »
So I gave him my number.  He never said where he worked, what he did, etc.  But I was so amused at the whole "looking to find a business analyst in the dairy dept." angle that I kind of want to hear back from him.  Watch it be porn.  :speechless:

All you gave him was your phone number?  Think that's safe.  I think your number can only be "cloned" if you call them.

He didn't have a business card so that means it probably isn't that insurance company/pyramid scheme place that appears to be all over the country (you have to get your license through them and you only start making any real money when you get other people to work for them and they start making sales - hence they keep business cards with them constantly).  That's good news.

Crossing my fingers for you that the guy is for real.



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Re: The Economic Downturn..
« Reply #333 on: October 15, 2010, 01:06:15 PM »
He called around 9pm the night I talked to him & left a voicemail.  Again, didn't say the name of the company or anything about the job.

Gave him a call just now & yep. Sales job.  Or at least I assume so based on the description.  It sounds identical to positions I had interviews for at other companies like MetLife, NY Life, etc.  When I flat out asked "Is this a sales job?" he said "Well, we have some positions that aren't necessarily sales jobs."  (Translation, some of us are managers of people who do sales jobs.)  Can't fool me buddy.  I speak Dilbert after working at my old company with upper management & sales weasels for 8 years.  I'm pretty good at buzzword bingo.


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Re: The Economic Downturn..
« Reply #334 on: October 15, 2010, 01:12:21 PM »
When I flat out asked "Is this a sales job?" he said "Well, we have some positions that aren't necessarily sales jobs."
Yeah I love that sort of explanation, went ot an interview once and said up front "look I like people and I'm a good worker but the one thing I know I'm not good at is sales"

"Oh that's OK we have manager positions open"

"Do those require me doing a sales job at any point"

"Well in order to manage you have to go through an initial sales period for training"

Uh huh.


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Re: The Economic Downturn..
« Reply #335 on: October 15, 2010, 02:31:17 PM »
During my last bout of unemployment I went to a meeting in a hotel conference room.  They called it a "job interview" when they were really just pitching jobs selling overpriced air filters.  The dude running the meeting was hands down the most charismatic individual I've ever met, and he had everyone jazzed up with promises that they'd make at least $16 an hour just doing in home demonstrations, even more if they actually sold anything.  Now, he repeatedly mentioned that this wasn't door to door, that the appointments were set up ahead of time through the phone.  That begs the question "Who sets up the appointments?"  I kept TRYING to ask him during the meeting, but he just did not stop talking for even a second.  Eventually, on the way out, I asked him face to face where the crowd couldn't hear.  I asked him "Who sets the appointments?"  to which he responded "All of our associates have a part in setting up the appointments."

This wasn't a one shot deal either.  This company set up these sales meetings in this hotel, two of them every Tuesday, going back to at least 2000.  I'm guessing that the vast majority of the people suckered in to these sales jobs are cold calling people to set up demonstrations and quitting after a few weeks (or just getting fired for failing to meet some unrealistic quota) and a small handful are doing in home demonstrations.


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Re: The Economic Downturn..
« Reply #336 on: October 15, 2010, 02:45:07 PM »
When I first had my work authorization I went to something like that, for Kirby Vacuum Cleaners, they showed this hilarious Shatner presented vid telling all present that they should abandon all hope and accept a job shilling the pricey (though actually pretty good truth be told) things.

Wish I could find it on line, he gallops about on a mighty steed and everything.


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Re: The Economic Downturn..
« Reply #337 on: October 15, 2010, 06:16:46 PM »
When I first had my work authorization I went to something like that, for Kirby Vacuum Cleaners, they showed this hilarious Shatner presented vid telling all present that they should abandon all hope and accept a job shilling the pricey (though actually pretty good truth be told) things.

Wish I could find it on line, he gallops about on a mighty steed and everything.

I wish you could find that online too.  What a Rifftrax THAT would make!

I've been through the "sales job that's not a sales job except that you have to meet sales quotas" thing too.  And the very fact that they won't be up front about it tells me...
  • They know that the shit is near impossible to sell
  • If you do make any sales you'll be lucky if you see even half of the commission you earned because they're going to screw you

Meanwhile, may I vent a little bit?

I am grateful that I have at least this job even with the limited income and all (even though the date I'm going to start full time was moved back) but....there was mention of bonuses for "upselling" appointments - customer calls in for a service and you can get them to take more than the basic work...

It's been cash other times and mainly for the full timers.  I worked in place of a full timer today and instead the bonus was tickets in a raffle to raise money for one of teams that the manager's sons plays on - cost $5 each.

At the risk of sounding like an ingrate...I need the cash, thanks. Even if it was only the $5.

Besides - long shot as it is - I'm not thrilled about having to go through selling something I don't want, can't use (like an outdoor bbq pit) or for that matter want because I'll be stuck paying the income tax on it.  I'm thinking that I may pretend to have lost the ticket if the impossible happens.

You want to hand me a million to one shot, give me a $1 scratch off from the state lottery.  At least it's cash and they take the taxes off the top for you.

This is why if I enter contests it's for smaller things - movies, CDs, small gift cards - just so I don't have to worry about crap like this.  It sucks to be poor.


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Re: The Economic Downturn..
« Reply #338 on: October 18, 2010, 07:22:34 AM »
 :grr:  Here we go again...

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Our records indicate that you have no benefits remaining on this claim. If you are still unemployed after Saturday, March 27, 2010 and you worked in the past 15 months, you may file a new claim.

And of course because of the high call volumes I have to wait until Thursday or Friday before anyone will speak to me about another extension.


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Re: The Economic Downturn..
« Reply #339 on: October 18, 2010, 07:28:52 AM »
:grr:  Here we go again...

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Our records indicate that you have no benefits remaining on this claim. If you are still unemployed after Saturday, March 27, 2010 and you worked in the past 15 months, you may file a new claim.

And of course because of the high call volumes I have to wait until Thursday or Friday before anyone will speak to me about another extension.

Ummm....again, since every freaking thing is computerized and has to be reported, shouldn't they be able to look it up that you have worked in the last 15 months? And just go ahead and extend it for you?

If it was about money you owed them, they'd look that up fast enough.   :grr:


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Re: The Economic Downturn..
« Reply #340 on: October 18, 2010, 07:33:32 AM »
:grr:  Here we go again...

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Our records indicate that you have no benefits remaining on this claim. If you are still unemployed after Saturday, March 27, 2010 and you worked in the past 15 months, you may file a new claim.

And of course because of the high call volumes I have to wait until Thursday or Friday before anyone will speak to me about another extension.
Can't you just walk-in and talk to someone in person?


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Re: The Economic Downturn..
« Reply #341 on: October 18, 2010, 07:36:42 AM »
Not sure how it is in MA but in MI the office where the unemployed go for training courses and to find out general info about benefits and the like, isn't directly connected to the office that issues benefits.

Therefore if one needs to have a question about one's own benefits answered, the only source for the answer is the phone number.

I think partly why it's that way is that people can get fairly stressed about their benefits and having the clerks right in front of them might be potentially dangerous in some situations.
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Re: The Economic Downturn..
« Reply #342 on: October 18, 2010, 07:39:57 AM »
Well, I can't collect unemployment benefits anyway but at the SCESC (South Carolina Employment Security Commission - Their fancy name for the unemployed office), you can either call or walk-in but that process may have changed  :-\


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Re: The Economic Downturn..
« Reply #343 on: October 18, 2010, 07:42:37 AM »
:grr:  Here we go again...

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Our records indicate that you have no benefits remaining on this claim. If you are still unemployed after Saturday, March 27, 2010 and you worked in the past 15 months, you may file a new claim.

And of course because of the high call volumes I have to wait until Thursday or Friday before anyone will speak to me about another extension.
Can't you just walk-in and talk to someone in person?

Unfortunately the lines are insane because of all the new claims being filed, plus I have my daughter with me.  I might not get out of there in time to go pick up my dad from work, then drive to pick up my son from school.  (I think a former co-worker tried going in once awhile back and was asked to come back later in the week.)  It's a mess.

Not sure how it is in MA but in MI the office where the unemployed go for training courses and to find out general info about benefits and the like, isn't directly connected to the office that issues benefits.

Therefore if one needs to have a question about one's own benefits answered, the only source for the answer is the phone number.

I think partly why it's that way is that people can get fairly stressed about their benefits and having the clerks right in front of them might be potentially dangerous in some situations.

That too.  Occasionally you can get someone who can answer questions for you, but usually only if they aren't busy.  I've stuck with the phone because generally the people working in the office are really not personable given the amount of crap they have to deal with.  Plus the wait time is usually only an hour or less on the phone.


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Re: The Economic Downturn..
« Reply #344 on: October 18, 2010, 07:46:51 AM »
:grr:  Here we go again...

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Our records indicate that you have no benefits remaining on this claim. If you are still unemployed after Saturday, March 27, 2010 and you worked in the past 15 months, you may file a new claim.

And of course because of the high call volumes I have to wait until Thursday or Friday before anyone will speak to me about another extension.
Can't you just walk-in and talk to someone in person?

Unfortunately the lines are insane because of all the new claims being filed, plus I have my daughter with me.  I might not get out of there in time to go pick up my dad from work, then drive to pick up my son from school.  (I think a former co-worker tried going in once awhile back and was asked to come back later in the week.)  It's a mess.

Ugh! That Sux!

Maybe your unemployment office is hiring to process all those new claims.. If not, That would be a nice suggestion to submit to the 'higher-ups':o