This really passes for a "band"??

[Wheaty Petestraw]

Hollywood Undead is making me hate this thread.

Hell, Hollywood Undead are the only good thing about this thread... and they suck!

[Petey Wheatstraw]

Still, with all the releases out there taken into account, I just can't see how Roots could rank so high.

It's highly likely that the person who made the list has no clue about metal.

It's absolutely likely that you think you have a "g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-good b-b-b-b-b-b-brain".

This isn't so much about taste

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as there's just no way in hell that album belongs in the top 100. Hell, that album wouldn't even make the top 100 of kids who shop at Hot Topic and they're notorious for supporting the crap of the crop.

Well, there's a simple explanation for that: YOU HAVE NO CLUE WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT!

There's a difference between having an opinion and being...whatever the hell you are. Are you even human? All I know is that you are the dumbest individual on this forum.

Hollywood Undead is making me hate this thread.

Hell, Hollywood Undead are the only good thing about this thread... and they suck!

This thread was good, until you decided to come on here and start bitching about how I know absolutely nothing about metal, even though the topic at hand has nothing to do with metal (even though Wikipedia claims metal for HU), and showing how much of a close-minded dickweed you are by bashing every band that does something creative instead of doing the exact same shit as every two-bit death metal band you listen to while beating off to the Hollywood Undead album cover and imagining how much you'd like to be married to the lead singer of Coldplay.

[ScottotD]

Ingrown does seem to pull the 'Anyone who disagrees with me is wrong' thing less and you both seem to blame the other or say you're just joking if anyone calls you on your shit.

Again unless I missed something neither of you have proved anything and neither of you are (on the whole) wrong, you just have different opinions which you're unable to accept or express like an adult.

[Petey Wheatstraw]

Ingrown does seem to pull the 'Anyone who disagrees with me is wrong' thing less and you both seem to blame the other or say you're just joking if anyone calls you on your shit.

Again unless I missed something neither of you have proved anything and neither of you are (on the whole) wrong, you just have different opinions which you're unable to accept or express like an adult.

Ingrown's opinions aren't wrong. He's just an asshole. I'm not saying that my opinions are right; no one's opinion is right or wrong - I've never made any such statement. But when it comes to basic facts, he has gotten several things wrong, and I have corrected him on it. Nu metal is not a genre, Kool Keith did NOT influence Esham...these are just the ridiculous things that comes from the bizarre mind of Ingrown A-hair.

[ScottotD]

I'd say nu-metal is a genre personally but I don't care enough to get into it, I could also point out many posts where you've stated your opinion as fact but again I don't think it would actually help at all.


To sidetrack back to the topic, what the band dresses or looks like seems pretty irrelivant to me.  Clearly with this band it's part of their image/appeal/marketing strategy/problem (choose as you see fit) but it doesn't phase me.

[Petey Wheatstraw]

I'd say nu-metal is a genre personally but I don't care enough to get into it, I could also point out many posts where you've stated your opinion as fact but again I don't think it would actually help at all.

Well, I'm well aware of the fact that I may occasionally write my opinions in a tone that may come across as stating opinion as fact, but that's not what I've ever tried to do, at all.

As far as nu metal goes, I didn't know what it was for a long time, and then when I found System of a Down tagged as nu metal, I realized that it was complete horseshit, that no such genre existed. System of a Down has more to do with things like Primus or Frank Zappa than Limp Bizkit. One reviewer even compared SOAD's music to a cross between Zappa and Slayer. System, Slayer, Black Sabbath are all metal bands that I enjoy. I never gave a shit about Papa Roach (who are not metal - at all; another reason why "nu metal" doesn't exist - most of the so-called "nu" bands are HARD ROCK, not metal).

[kodiakthejuggler]

It's just easy to group certain bands into a given genre. Hell, they basically made up the "nu-metal" genre for the bands who sounded kinda like metal, but incorporated scratches and hip-hop elements into their music. I know there are plenty of bands who were doing that kind of stuff many years ago, but back then, it was either Metal or NOTHING!!

[jewishcarpenter]

I open this thread and fucking shit man. You guys pooped all over the place.

[Petey Wheatstraw]

It's just easy to group certain bands into a given genre. Hell, they basically made up the "nu-metal" genre for the bands who sounded kinda like metal, but incorporated scratches and hip-hop elements into their music. I know there are plenty of bands who were doing that kind of stuff many years ago, but back then, it was either Metal or NOTHING!!

I've seen that phrase applied to everything. Basically, "nu metal" became the hardcore metalhead's go-to phrase for anything they hate. Like Metallica's St. Anger. And they'll object that System of a Down, etc. are not nu metal because they're so good. "SOAD are too good to be nu metal. Limp Bizkit is nu metal! System aren't nu metal!"

Emo isn't a genre of music, either. It's a bad trend. "Emo" bands are bad pop bands who pretend to be depressed. I don't understand why "emotional" is a genre of music. Say what? That basically covers everything - happy songs, sad songs, angry songs....emotional music? What? Hollywood Undead are not emotional. Legitimate bands have actual emotions!

[Jonathan_Short_Torso]

Man their real faces must be ugly.

[kodiakthejuggler]

Man their real faces must be ugly.

No. Their masks probably convey more emotion than they ever could.

The key word her being PROBABLY, as I could give two shits about who they really are.

[mrbasehart]

I have a question:

Who gives a shit what genre or subgenre a band is supposed to be? I (along with a couple of others here) am a huge movie nerd, but I couldn't care less whether something was in some aribtrary category because someone else decided it.

[Petey Wheatstraw]

I don't give a shit. The only reason ideas like nu metal, etc. are being discussed is because Ingrown screamed at me for considering "Sepultura's nu-metal album" my favorite metal album.

[Petey Wheatstraw]

Huh - they removed "emo" from Hollywood Undead's Wiki entry.

Okay, so when do these guys hit the unemployment line? I'm pretty sure their album bombed.

Man their real faces must be ugly.

No. Their masks probably convey more emotion than they ever could.

The key word her being PROBABLY, as I could give two shits about who they really are.

Maybe these guys are members of another crappy band that changed up their style when the albums flopped, and took on pseudonyms to hide this fact? For all I know, HU and Smite the Righteous could be the same band!

[ScottotD]

I'd say some 'emo' bands are expressing genuine emotion, it's not like poetry-style pop or rock is new.  'Emo' music seems to get dismissed out of hand by a lot of people the same way there seems to be this inexplicable anger towards the culture in general, alot of it from the same kind of people who call goths and punks 'emo' I'd say.