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Title: worst movies ever
Post by: nomorestalker on November 24, 2006, 05:14:07 PM
Hello all new here, browsing the internet and found two lists of the top....well um bottom 100 movies ever wondering if there are any anyone agrees or disagrees with. also for the mst3k faithful, you will notice "I accuse my Parents" , "Hell Cats" , "santa claus conquers the martians" and "Eegah"  among others in the IMDB list.

http://www.imdb.com/chart/bottom (http://www.imdb.com/chart/bottom)
http://www.thestinkers.com/100stinkers.html (http://www.thestinkers.com/100stinkers.html)

i personally think the final sacrifice should have been on the list, although in my top 5 mst3k's
Title: Re: worst movies ever
Post by: mrbasehart on November 24, 2006, 05:18:28 PM
Hello, stalker.

Good Lord! Zoom is in the bottom 100? That's coming out over here soon.  I'll make one of my assistants watch it... *evil laugh*
Title: Re: worst movies ever
Post by: Petey Wheatstraw on November 24, 2006, 06:15:57 PM
http://www.thestinkers.com/100stinkers.html (http://www.thestinkers.com/100stinkers.html)

What, they ranked Twin Peaks (Lost Highway--Lynch's best film--was ranked as one of the worst of 1997. Eat me.) and Natural Born Killers next to Plan 9 from Outer Space and Battlefield Earth? Give me a break.

I refuse to give The Bad Cinema Society any credit whatsoever. Throughout the website, there are plenty of great films that are trashed among the true stinkers. They shame their own name by doing so.
Title: Re: worst movies ever
Post by: Allegedman on November 24, 2006, 07:20:57 PM
no no no

Manos the hands of fate thats the worst ever ! MST3K even made fun of it!
Title: Re: worst movies ever
Post by: nomorestalker on November 25, 2006, 11:57:00 AM
the stinkers i believe was alphabetical. but i'm still kinda pissed the final sacrifice was not on either list, Bruce J. Mitchell's finest work
.....mitchell......prehaps he's a distant cousin of joe don baker. eh?
Title: Re: worst movies ever
Post by: Jinto on November 26, 2006, 08:36:50 PM
If you really want a painful movie to riff, try Romeo and Juliet (1996) with Leonardo DiCaprio and Claire Danes.
Title: Re: worst movies ever
Post by: Petey Wheatstraw on November 27, 2006, 05:23:27 AM
If you really want a painful movie to riff, try Romeo and Juliet (1996) with Leonardo DiCaprio and Claire Danes.

Ouch. Shakespeare not only rolled over in his grave over that one, he twisted into a tailspin.
Title: Re: worst movies ever
Post by: Minnesota on November 27, 2006, 09:04:43 AM
nice! Date Movie made the list. that movie sucked hard, yet I give them props for the DVD critic riff
Title: Re: worst movies ever
Post by: kodiakthejuggler on November 27, 2006, 09:11:26 AM
If you really want a painful movie to riff, try Romeo and Juliet (1996) with Leonardo DiCaprio and Claire Danes.

Ouch. Shakespeare not only rolled over in his grave over that one, he twisted into a tailspin.

Words alone cannot express the sheer physical pain I endured in watching a few minutes of that film. I honestly could not continue. The pain was too great.  :-[
Title: Re: worst movies ever
Post by: Minnesota on November 27, 2006, 09:20:07 AM
If you really want a painful movie to riff, try Romeo and Juliet (1996) with Leonardo DiCaprio and Claire Danes.

Ouch. Shakespeare not only rolled over in his grave over that one, he twisted into a tailspin.

Words alone cannot express the sheer physical pain I endured in watching a few minutes of that film. I honestly could not continue. The pain was too great.  :-[

Meh? I kinda liked when I was 14, pretty stupid for adults. What do ya'll think about the 'updated' Hamlet, or Midsummersnightdream, kinda them myself. (shakespear fan if ya couldnt tell)
Title: Re: worst movies ever
Post by: Shinigami on November 27, 2006, 12:14:12 PM
If you really want a painful movie to riff, try Romeo and Juliet (1996) with Leonardo DiCaprio and Claire Danes.

Ouch. Shakespeare not only rolled over in his grave over that one, he twisted into a tailspin.

Words alone cannot express the sheer physical pain I endured in watching a few minutes of that film. I honestly could not continue. The pain was too great.  :-[

Meh? I kinda liked when I was 14, pretty stupid for adults. What do ya'll think about the 'updated' Hamlet, or Midsummersnightdream, kinda them myself. (shakespear fan if ya couldnt tell)

Then of course there was Moulin Rouge by the same director.  I only watched about a half hour and it hurt me to no end.  The broadway/techno/pop rendition of Smells Like Teen Spirit nearly caused me to vomit.  Only theater queers could possibly like that pretentious crap.  Sad thing is, I was a technician for my high school theater, so I had to interact with people like that on a daily basis.  You have NO idea how many times I had to listen to that chewing gum/shotgun bit from Chicago.  It was like a mantra to these f***ing people.
Title: Re: worst movies ever
Post by: gammer on November 27, 2006, 12:19:11 PM
http://www.thestinkers.com/100stinkers.html

This site is pretty cool. Thanks for posting it.

Dont forget this list too:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Films_considered_the_worst_ever
Title: Re: worst movies ever
Post by: MisterC on November 28, 2006, 10:59:49 AM
These worse movies ever lists should be sued for false advertising.  Where's Envy?  Reign of Fire?  Ghost Dad, for crying out loud?!
Title: Re: worst movies ever
Post by: JonnyFrag on November 28, 2006, 12:37:20 PM
There should be a caveat to these lists etc... that the movie was actually trying to be good.

I mean, the Corman stuff is awful and so is Uwe Bolls stuff, but they are not 'trying' to be good. They are just trying to come in with enough moving footage to edit into a motion picture or steal money from the German authorities. Like when these lists have Attack of the Killer Tomatos on it...it's just not fair. Not a level playing field. For what is was trying to do Attack of the Killer Tomatos is great! But I would like to point out that budget is not involved. Thats why I consider Starship Troopers to be immune to attacks that it was a bad movie. It was made tongue in cheek and as a parody, and such, suceeded.

Something that was trying to be good and was terrible (Battlefield Earth for example?) should be the vein we are going for. Wild Wild West also leaps to mind.

The Stinkers list is a terribly confused list that fails to take the above into consideration. It is also apparent that they do not get the horror genre at all (many 'proper film critics' don't.) Take for instance the inclusion of the original Texas Chainsaw Massacre. I will defend this movie's greatness to the grave. It is a genuine classic in the horror genre and in filmdom in general. You may notice they just take two entire franchises out in one listing pretty much with Texas Chainsaw Massacre and Friday the 13th. While they have uneven sequels to be sure, the originals in either series are reguarded as classics and have spawned multiple sequels on their financial merits. It is wrong to exclude an entire movie franchise as 'worst' just because you don't like it. I mean they make room to call out only the odd numbered Star Trek movies , not just slam the whole run. The also dismiss the Polie Academy series this way as well.
The Twin Peaks movie (as noted above) should be nowhere near a list of bad movies. Misunderstoon movies maybe, but not bad.
Title: Re: worst movies ever
Post by: nomorestalker on November 28, 2006, 06:54:24 PM
http://www.thestinkers.com/100stinkers.html

This site is pretty cool. Thanks for posting it.

Dont forget this list too:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Films_considered_the_worst_ever

np
Title: Re: worst movies ever
Post by: Famous Mortimer on November 29, 2006, 06:42:46 AM
The Stinkers list is pretty bad, to be honest. There's at least 10 films on there that although may not be brilliant, don't deserve to be on a list of the worst 100 films of all time. Police Academy 1 was alright for what it was, "Attack of the Killer Tomatoes" is actually a good fun film, and the placing of "Hudson Hawk" and "Blair Witch" are classic cases of the Emperor's new clothes- a few big reviewers called it terrible and they followed suit. Hudson Hawk isn't great and is full of holes, but is loads of fun at times. Texas Chainsaw Massacre 1 and 2 are both excellent films and I'm baffled as to which films the crew of that site were watching.

I don't even think I'm being controversial with any of this- there's no dubt they did skewer a few deserved stinkers, but there's no way in a million years you can count any of the films I've just named as among the worst 100 films ever made.
Title: Re: worst movies ever
Post by: BathTub on November 29, 2006, 07:21:12 AM
Yeah Hudson Hawk is one of those films that is seems gets overly bashed. Disproportionate to its actual quality.
Title: Re: worst movies ever
Post by: Shinigami on November 29, 2006, 07:58:43 AM
Yeah, people seem to think that its a bad action flick as opposed to an action flick spoof as it obviously is.  On that note, Hudson Hawk is a rather funny, though corny, comedy and spoof.
Title: Re: worst movies ever
Post by: 6079SmithW on November 29, 2006, 08:53:44 AM
That list is a strange mix of movies that got critically hammered when they came out, movies that everyone now agrees were kind of stupid but were fairly popular at the time, and just sort of unwatchable dreck, mostly stuff that people have only seen because of MST3k. If you're going to say that, for instance, Titanic is the worst movie ever, than you need to stick to the idea that you're going for movies that may have had good things going but were in the end insultingly terrible; Titanic and Manos don't belong on the same list.
Title: Re: worst movies ever
Post by: davo on December 01, 2006, 09:19:47 AM
The Stinkers list is pretty bad, to be honest. There's at least 10 films on there that although may not be brilliant, don't deserve to be on a list of the worst 100 films of all time. Police Academy 1 was alright for what it was, "Attack of the Killer Tomatoes" is actually a good fun film, and the placing of "Hudson Hawk" and "Blair Witch" are classic cases of the Emperor's new clothes- a few big reviewers called it terrible and they followed suit. Hudson Hawk isn't great and is full of holes, but is loads of fun at times. Texas Chainsaw Massacre 1 and 2 are both excellent films and I'm baffled as to which films the crew of that site were watching.

I don't even think I'm being controversial with any of this- there's no dubt they did skewer a few deserved stinkers, but there's no way in a million years you can count any of the films I've just named as among the worst 100 films ever made.

yeah, how in the world can Blair Witch Project be on there?  that was a cool,scary,unique movie.  talk about backlash...
and Drop Dead Fred?  i love Rik Mayall (the young ones) so i'm biased,but it's not the worst 100.

there's so many that are wrong with that list on stinkers:
The "Friday The 13th" Series   (even the first one?)
The Gods Must Be Crazy   (really?)
Lost In Space 
Natural Born Killers  (talk about emperor's new clothes. )
The "Police Academy" Series (agreed that the first one was dumb fun :-)
The Porky's Trilogy (even the first one?)
The Postman
Red Dawn (only in retrospect does this seem cheesier than it actually was at the time. more dumb fun)
Star Trek-The Motion Picture (1979) and the "odd numbered" original cast Star Drek sequels  (*LAME bandwagon jumping with the "odd numbered" theory)

Title: Re: worst movies ever
Post by: Road_Element on December 01, 2006, 09:30:34 AM
no no no

Manos the hands of fate thats the worst ever ! MST3K even made fun of it!

I have to agree. Out of all the movies ive seen in my lifetime. Manos the hands of fate is by far the worst.
Title: Re: worst movies ever
Post by: 6079SmithW on December 01, 2006, 01:26:54 PM
no no no

Manos the hands of fate thats the worst ever ! MST3K even made fun of it!

I have to agree. Out of all the movies ive seen in my lifetime. Manos the hands of fate is by far the worst.
Really? Did you see Monster A-Go-Go?

At least Manos was a movie, not a stock footage festival with narration.