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Title: Thoughts.
Post by: mrbasehart on August 24, 2006, 03:03:04 PM
I just saw this movie with the rifftrax and more than any of the other movies, it recalled MST3K.  Its easily the worst film that Mike has riffed for Legend so far and even though he tries his best (and is very funny in places), the overwhelming awfulness of Plan 9 even seems to subdue him.  The advantage MST3k had over rifftrax is the host segments which gave a chance for the audience to take a deep breath outside of the movie before soldiering on, but here, taken in one fell swoop (as I perhaps, stupidly decided upon) Ed Wood's most famous film practically begs you to press eject on the DVD player and frisbee the disc out of the window (which would look a lot like the "UFO's" in Plan 9, just without the nipples).  Thank the Lord for Mike, without whom I would've surely ended up driving my head into the monitor.  I didn't ask for Tor Johnson-neck-fat jokes, but I was very glad when they arrived.

Overall : B.  (Just no more this bad, please Mike?)
Title: Re: Thoughts.
Post by: gammer on August 24, 2006, 03:53:13 PM
I think you will notice the Rifftrax "classics" are more of a commentary style as apposed to riffing. I beleive they did this because they were marketing their color remakes of these movies to a broader audience.

Wheras rifftrax is geared towards the MST3K people.
Title: Re: Thoughts.
Post by: trickfred on August 24, 2006, 04:02:58 PM
Wheras rifftrax is geared towards the MST3K people.

I'm certain Mike assumed he'd nab a bunch of them, but I'm pretty sure he's after a much wider auddience than just the fans of a show that's been off the air for almost a decade, or he'd still be doing the same crappy schlock films that were riffed back in MST3K's day. :P
Title: Re: Thoughts.
Post by: ZachsMind on August 25, 2006, 08:48:22 PM
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I beleive they did this because they were marketing their color remakes of these movies to a broader audience.
When I listened to Mike's riff on Plan 9 while watching the video.google version, it did feel like Mike was 'holding back' a bit. In effect, he knew his audience and Mike was being cautious at points not to sound like a fanboy. Although he knew a little too much about Tor Johnson's private life to be catering to the straights in that moment. Mike just couldn't help make digs at the swedish wrestler with neck fat. There was another point where Mike purposefully points out some other guy actually had a career outside Plan 9 and managed to do some good movies, but I've since forgotten which loser Mike was referring to or what movies he mentioned. I mean the guy was in Plan 9. It's like Elizabeth Berkeley's permanent Showgirls scar. You never live something like that down. Mike also seemed to painfully avoid saying anything remarkably memorable about Vampira. That could be cuz last I checked the woman was still alive somewhere, and may still be litigation happy. She tried suing Elvira after all. Mike probably knew to give her a wide berth.
Title: Re: Thoughts.
Post by: Verence on September 01, 2006, 04:16:07 PM
Is there a difference between the "Classic Rifftrax" downloadable commentary and the commentary on the DVD?

And how "Riffy" is it?
Title: Re: Thoughts.
Post by: mrbasehart on September 01, 2006, 07:34:03 PM
I used the Rifftrax for the Plan 9, so it was pretty riffy.  I bought the NOTLD on DVD, and it had the same amount of material, maybe even more.
Title: Re: Thoughts.
Post by: Verence on September 01, 2006, 09:08:20 PM
Cool, I guess I'll get the DVDs then.  Especially since they're "Signed Mike Nelson Limited Editions." :D
Title: Re: Thoughts.
Post by: Petey Wheatstraw on September 02, 2006, 11:42:08 AM
Yeah, I personally choose to stick with the DVDs in the case of the Legend Films title, and buy the RiffTrax downloads for stuff that isn't already on the discs. One of the added bonuses is that, being a big cult movie buff, I get to own some great-looking prints of films that haven't been treated very well on DVD, print-wise (especially The Little Shop of Horrors - every version of that film I've seen before the Legend Films edition looked and sound like the distributors fished their prints out of a dumpster).
Title: Re: Thoughts.
Post by: MrTorso on September 29, 2006, 05:27:59 PM
I used the Rifftrax for the Plan 9, so it was pretty riffy.  I bought the NOTLD on DVD, and it had the same amount of material, maybe even more.

The tracks are the same except for Disembaudio.

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Yeah, I personally choose to stick with the DVDs in the case of the Legend Films title, and buy the RiffTrax downloads for stuff that isn't already on the discs. One of the added bonuses is that, being a big cult movie buff, I get to own some great-looking prints of films that haven't been treated very well on DVD, print-wise (especially The Little Shop of Horrors - every version of that film I've seen before the Legend Films edition looked and sound like the distributors fished their prints out of a dumpster).

May as well. No sync worries etc. My only complaint is that you are forced to watch the color versions of a couple of them if you want Mike's track. The plan 9 looks way better than my old Rhino version.

Title: Re: Thoughts.
Post by: mrbasehart on September 29, 2006, 06:54:34 PM
I used the Rifftrax for the Plan 9, so it was pretty riffy.  I bought the NOTLD on DVD, and it had the same amount of material, maybe even more.

The tracks are the same except for Disembaudio.

My response was in question to someone asking about the quality of the Legend DVD's, and the comparison between Mike's commentary for them and for the Rifftrax he produces here.   :)
Title: Re: Thoughts.
Post by: MrTorso on September 29, 2006, 08:32:19 PM
My response was in question to someone asking about the quality of the Legend DVD's, and the comparison between Mike's commentary for them and for the Rifftrax he produces here.   :)

D'oh! My bad!
Title: Re: Thoughts.
Post by: kodiakthejuggler on September 30, 2006, 08:38:12 AM
I just can't get over the cardboard and plywood "cockpit" in the airplane...

complete with shower curtain! Or the cemetary, complete with cardboard headstones, and trees that will fall over if you touch them.


Look out for the saucers on strings! The old Flash Gordon TV show had better special effects!
Title: Re: Thoughts.
Post by: AvestheFox on October 12, 2006, 03:24:58 AM
what a worthless overly bad pile of stinky dung from a dead elephant's ass after 5 hours of rotting stinkyness!!!!

I swear, my nana made better movies and she doesnt even know how to use a cheap Wal~Mart film camera!

The TERRIBLY bad acting, cheap ass sets!.. My head nearly implodded from this filth!

God, what was I thinking?!?

(I watched the movie without the riffs! D:  )

I'm a damned man! God forgive me! Mike, save me!
Title: Re: Thoughts.
Post by: MrTorso on October 12, 2006, 08:03:24 PM
what a worthless overly bad pile of stinky dung from a dead elephant's ass after 5 hours of rotting stinkyness!!!!

I swear, my nana made better movies and she doesnt even know how to use a cheap Wal~Mart film camera!

The TERRIBLY bad acting, cheap ass sets!.. My head nearly implodded from this filth!

God, what was I thinking?!?

(I watched the movie without the riffs! D:  )

I'm a damned man! God forgive me! Mike, save me!

It's pretty crappy but God help me I love it. I have since I was 10. That being said I will probably never watch it without Mike's commentary track ever again but I still love it.


Title: Re: Thoughts.
Post by: gammer on October 13, 2006, 12:54:18 PM
It is truly the worst movie I have ever seen. But its so bad, its entertaining.
I also think its time to pull this one out again to watch in spirit of the Halloween season.

Aliens who resurrect the dead...its perfect for Halloween.
Title: Re: Thoughts.
Post by: Petey Wheatstraw on October 14, 2006, 07:34:43 AM
what a worthless overly bad pile of stinky dung from a dead elephant's ass after 5 hours of rotting stinkyness!!!!

I swear, my nana made better movies and she doesnt even know how to use a cheap Wal~Mart film camera!

The TERRIBLY bad acting, cheap ass sets!.. My head nearly implodded from this filth!

God, what was I thinking?!?

(I watched the movie without the riffs! D:  )

I'm a damned man! God forgive me! Mike, save me!

Plan 9 From Outer Space is funny as hell. I'll take an Ed Wood film over any of the crappy films being produced today. I enjoyed Plan 9 six times as much as I enjoyed the Dawn of the Dead remake (sucks, sucks, SUCKS). 8)
Title: Re: Thoughts.
Post by: Pak-Man on October 29, 2006, 11:40:49 PM
So I just watched my Legend DVD release of Plan 9. I'd never seen it before. I'd heard the stories but I had no clue just how bad a movie could get. From the cheesy UFOs on a string to the wooden acting, to the GLARING continuity errors. I'm not usually the type who notices the "In this shot he holds it in his left hand, but over here it's clearly in his right" kind of thing, it's very obviously day sometimes and night immediately afterward, then back to day. The movie just didn't care and Mike's commentary was hilarious. :^)
Title: Re: Thoughts.
Post by: Cap'n UKRiffer on October 30, 2006, 11:57:16 AM
So I just watched my Legend DVD release of Plan 9. I'd never seen it before. I'd heard the stories but I had no clue just how bad a movie could get. From the cheesy UFOs on a string to the wooden acting, to the GLARING continuity errors. I'm not usually the type who notices the "In this shot he holds it in his left hand, but over here it's clearly in his right" kind of thing, it's very obviously day sometimes and night immediately afterward, then back to day. The movie just didn't care and Mike's commentary was hilarious. :^)

I just loved the way Ed Wood would just stick in that same bit of footage of Bela Lugosi in every so often for no real apparent reason... Was a great film to be riffed on by Mike
Title: Re: Thoughts.
Post by: Pak-Man on October 30, 2006, 02:46:21 PM
And while we're at it, why was Vampira in this movie? Did she ever do anything? :^)
Title: Re: Thoughts.
Post by: BBQ Platypus on October 30, 2006, 04:28:37 PM
Wow...Ed Wood is like the anti-Raimi...he doesn't know how to do a damn thing.  There are six directors that everyone who goes into the film industry should study: Kubrick, Hitchcock, Raimi, & Tarantino to show them how to do it right, and the dynamic duo of Schumacher and Wood to show them how NOT to make a film.

Reused scenes & stock footage galore.  Not to mention the sudden switch between daytime and nighttime.  And couldn't he have found someone who kinda, um...LOOKED like Lugosi?  The cape just made it more obvious!

The riffs were good.  He's done better, but it's damn good riffage, on par with Pete Townshend and Keith Richards.
 
Best riff: "Ha!  Stupid outer space!  Get an atmosphere, you bozo!"
Title: Re: Thoughts.
Post by: Tyrant on November 03, 2006, 12:10:03 PM

  Loved it. Loved it loved it loved it. I love cheap-o sci-fi/horror b-movies like this. Mostly for the contrast when I watch the graceful majesty that is Alien or Predator.

  It's like this movie was bad, and everyone making it knew it was bad, but no one cared and made it anyway. Mike was the icing on the cake. I loved the Plans 1-8 snippits too. Reminded me heavily of the old MST3K bits they'd inject into every episode.

  I suppose this shouldn't suprise me, but I thought it was funny that no one mentions how "human" the aliens appear in the movie. They didn't even try to make them look different, other than shiny jumpsuits. Hysterical.
Title: Re: Thoughts.
Post by: PsypherPunk on November 06, 2006, 09:29:26 AM
There are six directors that everyone who goes into the film industry should study: Kubrick, Hitchcock, Raimi, & Tarantino to show them how to do it right, and the dynamic duo of Schumacher and Wood to show them how NOT to make a film.

Joel Schumacher and Michael Bay are in an O.T.T. class of their own - no one matches them for indulgent bombast. Ed Wood and Uwe Boll are the real masters of inept filmmaking  :D
Title: Re: Thoughts.
Post by: AmazingThor on November 07, 2006, 07:30:19 AM
Did anyone catch the picture change? In the scene where the woman is in bed and "Bela" enters to menace her, a picture on the wall shows some flowers. Then in the next scene it has a more modern looking picture of a family, then switches back. Is that someone at Legend films inserting themselves?

Also, I enjoyed the riffs but I felt Mike was a little too harsh on Bela. There were too many "heroin" jokes for my taste. Don't whip a dead horse, Mike.
Title: Re: Thoughts.
Post by: AmazingThor on November 07, 2006, 07:31:18 AM
Never mind about the picture, I read it on another thread! :-[
Title: Re: Thoughts.
Post by: Minnesota on November 13, 2006, 04:13:58 PM
Just revisited my legend dvd and man do these jokes still hold up. Easily one of my favs.  "windy in outerspace" joke had me rolling on the floor all over again.
Title: Re: Thoughts.
Post by: Famous Mortimer on November 30, 2006, 06:32:37 AM
I'm amazed there are people on this board who hadn't seen it until quite recently- I first watched it when I was about 12 with my Mum and we were both rolling about laughing at it (thanks to the Medved brothers and the "Golden Turkey Awards" books).

Any film that's entertained me as much as that film has over the years can't be all bad. For any of you who've still not seen them, check out the films of Coleman Francis, MST'ed or not, if you want to see some of the worst atrocities ever committed to celluloid.
Title: Re: Thoughts.
Post by: Bus Taker on January 05, 2007, 06:15:43 PM
There were many fun riffs including goofs I didn't catch the first time I survived watching Plan 9.

Also, I enjoyed the riffs but I felt Mike was a little too harsh on Bela. There were too many "heroin" jokes for my taste. Don't whip a dead horse, Mike.

I agree that most riffing that makes fun of a specific attribute more than 3 or so times is annoying.  MST3K was guilty of that with baldness.  In this case, Mike had an easy opportunity to have fun with Tor as in "The Unearthly".  It didn't have to be an accurate imitation, maybe just a simple "how do Tor work gun?"  Instead it was an endless string of fat jokes.  C'mon Mike, come back to us, you have more imagination than that! ;)

Lest you think I am biased, I am fat but with a full head of hair. :)
Title: Re: Thoughts.
Post by: Sharktopus on January 06, 2007, 09:33:52 AM
I agree that most riffing that makes fun of a specific attribute more than 3 or so times is annoying.  MST3K was guilty of that with baldness.  In this case, Mike had an easy opportunity to have fun with Tor as in "The Unearthly".  It didn't have to be an accurate imitation, maybe just a simple "how do Tor work gun?"  Instead it was an endless string of fat jokes.  C'mon Mike, come back to us, you have more imagination than that! ;)

Good point. I thought the same thing. There's a dozen other obvious things about Tor's performance to make fun of. We can tell he's huge, Mike. We don't need you to keep pointing it out.
Title: Re: Thoughts.
Post by: palehorse864 on January 15, 2007, 04:49:36 PM
They harped too much on Tor's weight, but they also managed to miss the best Tor's weight joke.  Did anyone else notice that when Tor walks through the fog at the beginning, he creates a vortex moving through it?

Still, they got a lot of great gags in.  I loved the alien leader scenes and the cracks about the alien tights.

I think the core problem though was that they focused too much on the poor production than the on-screen events and character actions.  The cracks on what the characters are doing is what made riffs such as The Matrix so good, and the more obscure things such as the agent's suits making them appear to be Mormon missionaries.
Title: Re: Thoughts.
Post by: DeadlyCinema on March 02, 2007, 05:23:38 PM
This is the only film in the entire universe that I'd rather not see riffed. Not out of respect, really, it's just such a personal film to me.

Matthew
myspace.com/deadlycinema
Title: Re: Thoughts.
Post by: Petey Wheatstraw on March 02, 2007, 11:55:45 PM
This is the only film in the entire universe that I'd rather not see riffed. Not out of respect, really, it's just such a personal film to me.

Wow. That is such a load of crap. You don't respect the film, but you don't want to see it riffed because it's "too personal"? We're talking about Ed Wood, for crying out loud! He was the world's worst filmmaker by 1959 standards! (The guys who made Date Movie had not been born yet.)
Title: Re: Thoughts.
Post by: Minnesota on March 03, 2007, 12:17:37 AM
This is the only film in the entire universe that I'd rather not see riffed. Not out of respect, really, it's just such a personal film to me.

Wow. That is such a load of crap. You don't respect the film, but you don't want to see it riffed because it's "too personal"? We're talking about Ed Wood, for crying out loud! He was the world's worst filmmaker by 1959 standards! (The guys who made Date Movie had not been born yet.)

2nd issac,
Matt what is it about "plan 9" that is 'personal'?! Its easily the worst (as in cheesiest) movies legend has released. The commentary track is brilliant, one of my personal favorites.
Title: Re: Thoughts.
Post by: DeadlyCinema on March 03, 2007, 10:57:29 PM
Wow. That is such a load of crap. You don't respect the film, but you don't want to see it riffed because it's "too personal"? We're talking about Ed Wood, for crying out loud! He was the world's worst filmmaker by 1959 standards! (The guys who made Date Movie had not been born yet.)

Please don't take it as snobbery, it's just that I saw this movie when I was really young, and it became a source of pure inspiration for me for years to come. I have seen the MST3K episodes for other Ed Wood movies ("Bride of the Monster", "The Violent Years", etc), and enjoyed them, but was always secretly glad that MST3K never got around to doing "Plan 9".

Matt what is it about "plan 9" that is 'personal'?! Its easily the worst (as in cheesiest) movies legend has released. The commentary track is brilliant, one of my personal favorites.

Remember, "personal" is very subjective. I dunno, "Plan 9" is just a movie that meant alot to me in a very profound way, and is the only movie on earth that I'd just rather skip (as far as commentaries go).

Matthew
myspace.com/deadlycinema

Title: Re: Thoughts.
Post by: Pak-Man on March 03, 2007, 11:45:44 PM
Wow. That is such a load of crap. You don't respect the film, but you don't want to see it riffed because it's "too personal"? We're talking about Ed Wood, for crying out loud! He was the world's worst filmmaker by 1959 standards! (The guys who made Date Movie had not been born yet.)

Please don't take it as snobbery, it's just that I saw this movie when I was really young, and it became a source of pure inspiration for me for years to come. I have seen the MST3K episodes for other Ed Wood movies ("Bride of the Monster", "The Violent Years", etc), and enjoyed them, but was always secretly glad that MST3K never got around to doing "Plan 9".

Matt what is it about "plan 9" that is 'personal'?! Its easily the worst (as in cheesiest) movies legend has released. The commentary track is brilliant, one of my personal favorites.

Remember, "personal" is very subjective. I dunno, "Plan 9" is just a movie that meant alot to me in a very profound way, and is the only movie on earth that I'd just rather skip (as far as commentaries go).

Matthew
myspace.com/deadlycinema


It sounds like there's a story there, somewhere, and I'd be curious to hear it. How does a movie like Plan 9 become a profound experience? :^)
Title: Re: Thoughts.
Post by: DeadlyCinema on March 04, 2007, 09:20:20 AM
Not much of a story, really. I saw "Ed Wood" when I was barely a teen, and rented it hundreds of times (before I eventually bought it). I bought and read the book about him ("Nightmare of Ecstasy" by Rudolph Grey), and went on my search for "Plan 9 from Outer Space", which was, at the time, very hard to find (nowadays, it's everywhere!).

After calling every video store in the phone book (I said "No, not 'Planet 9', 'PLAN 9'!" more times than I can remember), I finally found a store that had a copy of it (it was in a "Walmart/Blockbuster" about 25 miles from town, and I wasn't old enough to drive). I pleaded that my mom take me there, and we did, picked up my reserved copy, shopped for groceries, and drove home.

By the time we finally got home and I sat my parents down to watch it with me, I was so filled with excitement I was primed to explode. After our screening, I watched it by myself again and again until the wee hours. It was a movie beyond belief and logic, and I felt lucky to had found it. Years later, it remains a personal film for me, and I'm the only person I know that loves it passionately.

Okay, I suppose it was much of a story  :)

Matthew
myspace.com/deadlycinema
Title: Re: Thoughts.
Post by: Fuzzy Necromancer on April 07, 2007, 11:06:54 AM
So, is the commentary on the legend films version of Plan 9 the same as the downloadable rifftrax?
Title: Re: Thoughts.
Post by: mrbasehart on April 07, 2007, 03:13:33 PM
So, is the commentary on the legend films version of Plan 9 the same as the downloadable rifftrax?

Yup.
Title: Re: Thoughts.
Post by: Pak-Man on April 07, 2007, 08:24:39 PM
Hey does it have an intro with Mike and Disembaudio explaining how to work the Rifftrax? I might actually pay $3 for just that. :^)
Title: Re: Thoughts.
Post by: mrbasehart on April 08, 2007, 04:12:54 AM
Hey does it have an intro with Mike and Disembaudio explaining how to work the Rifftrax? I might actually pay $3 for just that. :^)

It's a very quick one.  Not like the epics they produce nowadays.   :)