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Title: So, what did we learn?
Post by: Tony Farms AKA Puma Man on May 01, 2008, 07:14:08 PM
-I learned that a person infected will turn into a really crappy CGI-zombie.
Title: Re: So, what did we learn?
Post by: OmegaR! on May 01, 2008, 08:06:15 PM
I learned that CG deer taste really good, but its not so good as to take on a CG lion
Title: Re: So, what did we learn?
Post by: nummy muffin on May 01, 2008, 10:15:15 PM
The cure for cancer provides the infected with a set of vocal chords that can produce the sound of a lion crossed with a dolphin.  Zombies can and must roar.
Title: Re: So, what did we learn?
Post by: Gadfly on May 03, 2008, 09:19:22 AM
The cure for cancer provides the infected with a set of vocal chords that can produce the sound of a lion crossed with a dolphin.  Zombies can and must roar.

[musical_interlude]
We are zombies, hear us roar
In numbers too big to ignore ...
[/musical_interlude]

Gadfly
Title: Re: So, what did we learn?
Post by: Fuzzy Necromancer on May 03, 2008, 04:32:44 PM
You know, technically they are vampires. -.-

I mean, hello? Disembaudio with bat wings? Corbett in a cape? =o
Title: Re: So, what did we learn?
Post by: bratpop on May 03, 2008, 07:26:07 PM
Well technically, they never showed any fangs or sucked any blood. They also never died and came back to life. So they are NEITHER. They're sunlight-scaredy-cats.
Title: Re: So, what did we learn?
Post by: Junkyard on May 03, 2008, 08:16:56 PM
That's what annoyed me.

I learned that you can make a movie with monsters that cause well informed people to seem stupid when they talk to people who don't read books:

"I don't know, they made the vampires in the film waaay too much like 28 Days Later zombies."
"Uh, that's because they ARE zombies, genius."
"No no, see, they're supposed to be vampires. George Romero's zombies were actually based off of Richard Matheson's original-"
"Oh, look, something shiny! Gleee!!!"
Title: Re: So, what did we learn?
Post by: bratpop on May 04, 2008, 03:18:40 AM
Genius writer (and for some reason producer) Akiva "Oscar" Goldsman said he didn't make them vampires because he felt that had "been done." Yeah, like zombies haven't "been done." There's an interview with Richard "Really Old" Matheson and he said his idea was (I think after reading Dracula) that if one vampire was scary, then a whole world of vampires would be even scarier. And since the first movie with Price is all but forgotten and Omega Man was just people with afros, I'd say that the concept still HASN'T really been done (except for that Alaska movie that came out last year). Making them ambiguous and calling them something incredibly stupid that nobody (even someone from Brasil) would ever think of like "Dark Seekers" didn't make the movie any more original.

Er, I meant to say I "learned" that. Yeah.

Um, I learned that even if you've seen movies like Shrek and "Batman and Superman Get Married," you won't call zombie vampires "zombies" or "vampires" or "people who fry in sunlight" or even "Light Haters," you'll call them "Dark Seekers" cos it sounds more cooler and shit.
Title: Re: So, what did we learn?
Post by: Gadfly on May 04, 2008, 08:51:00 AM
Genius writer (and for some reason producer) Akiva "Oscar" Goldsman said he didn't make them vampires because he felt that had "been done." Yeah, like zombies haven't "been done." ... Making them ambiguous and calling them something incredibly stupid that nobody (even someone from Brasil) would ever think of like "Dark Seekers" didn't make the movie any more original.

I agree, that's -- uh, an interesting thing for him to say.  In the midst of the "fast zombie" revolution with films like  the "28 x Later" franchise and the re-imagined "Dawn of the Dead", the "Dark Seekers" of this film were not exactly breaking new ground (from either direction).

Um, I learned that even if you've seen movies like Shrek and "Batman and Superman Get Married," you won't call zombie vampires "zombies" or "vampires" or "people who fry in sunlight" or even "Light Haters," you'll call them "Dark Seekers" cos it sounds more cooler and shit.

Yeah, I wonder how that ideas committee meeting went that came up with the term "Dark Seekers."  I can imagine the organizer standing up and saying something like, "Okay, people, listen up!  We need to come up with a name for these zombie/vampire/ghoul creatures, but we're not going to use familiar terms like zombies or vampires or ghouls, because we're gonna be 'original'.   Now, whad'ya got?  Lemme hear some ideas!"

And since the first movie with Price is all but forgotten ... I'd say that the concept still HASN'T really been done

Actually, you can find "The Last Man on Earth" in a lot of those public-domain DVD collections (our local Wal-Mart has it, paired with Lon Chaney Jr's "The Devil's Messenger", for $1), and it's one of the top down-loaded Feature Films at archive.org, specifically http://www.archive.org/details/the-last-man-on-earth.  (Personally, I like the Google video version they embed in the kewl movie-theater motif at http://www.moviesfoundonline.com/last_man_on_earth.php, but I digress.)  As I recall the Matheson book, the Price film did a relatively decent job of following it, at least as good as most Hollywood adaptations of novels (or novellas, in this case) go.

BTW, I like the way Mike & Co used term "The Last Man on Earth" a few (2? 3?) times during the early part of the riffing.  It sounded like an homage of sorts to the Price film.  (Not that I'd ever dare to accuse the Film Crew of waxing nostalgic, of course.)

Gadfly
Title: Re: So, what did we learn?
Post by: Gadfly on May 04, 2008, 09:08:38 AM
I learned that even when Hollywood makes a movie set in a city where there's only one driver, they'll still figure a way to work in a chase scene.  (The "Deer Chaser" scene.)

Gadfly
Title: Re: So, what did we learn?
Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on May 04, 2008, 10:02:43 AM
I learned that even when Hollywood makes a movie set in a city where there's only one driver, they'll still figure a way to work in a chase scene.  (The "Deer Chaser" scene.)

I learned that a deer can out run a 300hp Mustang.

  Hmmm, top speed of a deer: 40 mph.  Mustang GT 300 can do 0-60 in 5 seconds.  Something there doesn't add up???  I guess Will Smith can't drive to save his life. ;)

I also learned that if you have a house full of food you would still go out hunting deer, but I guess he was kind of bitter, clinging to his guns and all...


Title: Re: So, what did we learn?
Post by: bettertomorrowamy on May 04, 2008, 01:24:11 PM
I learned that even when Hollywood makes a movie set in a city where there's only one driver, they'll still figure a way to work in a chase scene.  (The "Deer Chaser" scene.)

I learned that a deer can out run a 300hp Mustang.


The deer were infected with the virus though so........
Title: Re: So, what did we learn?
Post by: esoobaC .T bocaJ on May 04, 2008, 01:42:19 PM
they were?
Title: Re: So, what did we learn?
Post by: bratpop on May 04, 2008, 04:43:55 PM
No, they weren't. However, they were New York deer. So, like New York rats...
Title: Re: So, what did we learn?
Post by: Fuzzy Necromancer on May 04, 2008, 10:43:46 PM
I learned that even when Hollywood makes a movie set in a city where there's only one driver, they'll still figure a way to work in a chase scene.  (The "Deer Chaser" scene.)

I learned that a deer can out run a 300hp Mustang.

  Hmmm, top speed of a deer: 40 mph.  Mustang GT 300 can do 0-60 in 5 seconds.  Something there doesn't add up???  I guess Will Smith can't drive to save his life. ;)

I also learned that if you have a house full of food you would still go out hunting deer, but I guess he was kind of bitter, clinging to his guns and all...




Ever since I heard about the crappy last-minute-religious-deus-ex-machina-cop-out device, I've been waiting for somebody to make a tie in to that Obama remark.

Thank you kind sir.
Title: Re: So, what did we learn?
Post by: bettertomorrowamy on May 05, 2008, 04:28:44 AM
I learned that even when Hollywood makes a movie set in a city where there's only one driver, they'll still figure a way to work in a chase scene.  (The "Deer Chaser" scene.)

I learned that a deer can out run a 300hp Mustang.

  Hmmm, top speed of a deer: 40 mph.  Mustang GT 300 can do 0-60 in 5 seconds.  Something there doesn't add up???  I guess Will Smith can't drive to save his life. ;)

I also learned that if you have a house full of food you would still go out hunting deer, but I guess he was kind of bitter, clinging to his guns and all...




I thought he was trying to tranquilize the deer so he could experiment on them.
Title: Re: So, what did we learn?
Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on May 05, 2008, 08:18:24 AM
I also learned that if you have a house full of food you would still go out hunting deer, but I guess he was kind of bitter, clinging to his guns and all...
I thought he was trying to tranquilize the deer so he could experiment on them.

That wasn't a tranquilzer gun he was using....

Maybe there was some logical reason he was after deer, but as with most things in this movie it went unexplained.  But I think Gadfly had it, they wanted a chase scene in the empty city, I"m sure they wanted to copy all the driving around that was in The Omega Man and it was a good place for product placement to get some money from Ford, couldn't chase dark seekers because it had to be during the day to show off the car, and thus the deer chase scene was born...
Title: Re: So, what did we learn?
Post by: bratpop on May 05, 2008, 07:04:42 PM
The one thing they borrowed from a previous version, and it had to be driving a race car around.
Title: Re: So, what did we learn?
Post by: Hamdingers on May 05, 2008, 07:26:08 PM
I also learned that if you have a house full of food you would still go out hunting deer, but I guess he was kind of bitter, clinging to his guns and all...


Actually, there's a good reason for Will Smith to go out hunting, it allows him to keep his canned goods and other preserved foods for backup purposes, if and when he runs out of animals to hunt and eat

besides, which would *you* rather eat, nice, fresh venison, or musty old canned goods?
Title: Re: So, what did we learn?
Post by: bratpop on May 05, 2008, 07:31:55 PM
Uh... I'll take canned goods for 500, Alex.
Title: Re: So, what did we learn?
Post by: nummy muffin on May 05, 2008, 08:43:07 PM
Considering he could never plausibly run out of canned goods to pillage, I assume he's just bored.  He's become like any redneck in the middle of nowhere, with only his dog to talk to.  They tend to take up blood sport.
Title: Re: So, what did we learn?
Post by: bratpop on May 05, 2008, 10:01:56 PM
*sigh* Sadly, Legend is so stupid that he chases deer in a Ford Mustang and wonders why he can't get a shot off... instead of just shooting the things while they're standing around eating the grass that grows out of Broadway. You know, I wonder if maybe he's legend for this very reason...
Title: Re: So, what did we learn?
Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on May 05, 2008, 11:04:40 PM
The bored idea is the only plausible one, why use a 300 hp Mustang that they can hear coming a mile away unless you wanted it to be more of a sport.

  If he were able to shoot a deer from a Mustang while driving then he would deserve the name Legend.

I mean, if he wanted deer meat he could have set a trap like he did for his victims experiments.

Another thing I learned, when alone, stuck in the city for years, it would be really important to save some bacon.  And I would act all un-legend like when some chick came in and cooked it while I was unconscious.

Please movie, tell us why the bacon was so important!  Were all the pigs wiped out?  Another in a long list of pointless stuff they tossed into the second half.
Title: Re: So, what did we learn?
Post by: bratpop on May 06, 2008, 12:50:07 AM
No, really... I fuckin love the idea that if he found the cure for zompires, he was saving some bacon just for the occasion. What a guy after Rifftrax's own heart.
Title: Re: So, what did we learn?
Post by: ShadowDog on May 06, 2008, 07:46:02 AM
Yeah, I'm with you on that one. Only line in the movie that made any damned sense.  :P
Title: Re: So, what did we learn?
Post by: skenderberg on May 06, 2008, 09:28:41 AM
The bored idea is the only plausible one, why use a 300 hp Mustang that they can hear coming a mile away unless you wanted it to be more of a sport.

  If he were able to shoot a deer from a Mustang while driving then he would deserve the name Legend.

I mean, if he wanted deer meat he could have set a trap like he did for his victims experiments.

Another thing I learned, when alone, stuck in the city for years, it would be really important to save some bacon.  And I would act all un-legend like when some chick came in and cooked it while I was unconscious.

Please movie, tell us why the bacon was so important!  Were all the pigs wiped out?  Another in a long list of pointless stuff they tossed into the second half.
I thought it was pretty clear that he was saving the bacon for Sam.  After he flipped out he had to go calm down by the dog-bathing tub.
Title: Re: So, what did we learn?
Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on May 06, 2008, 10:34:32 AM
I thought it was pretty clear that he was saving the bacon for Sam.  After he flipped out he had to go calm down by the dog-bathing tub.

OK, maybe, I didn't make that connection.  But all the pet shops would be filled with tasty bacon flavored treats that would last forever

Another thing learned from this movie:  That it's OK to run a bunch of portable generators inside, no problem with carbon monoxide at all.  But CO poisoning could explain a lot of his behavior.

Title: Re: So, what did we learn?
Post by: Hebs on May 06, 2008, 11:26:30 AM
You know, I learned that IT IS OKAY to get INSIDE the chamber - THERE IS ENOUGH ROOOM!
Title: Re: So, what did we learn?
Post by: Shamalama on May 11, 2008, 11:34:21 PM
I learned that in this day and age of interwebs and imdbs you can fill your movie with plot holes galore and leave it up to an online FAQ to explain everything.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0480249/faq (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0480249/faq)

So apparently the fact that Sam wasn't eating her veggies was enough explanation in the writers mind to merit high speed deer hunting.

I also learned that deer migrate to concrete islands inhabited by flesh hungry vambies, zompires, and lions once the apocalypse comes!
Title: Re: So, what did we learn?
Post by: Hebs on May 12, 2008, 11:31:59 AM
I didn't realise until recently that I Am Legend is much closer to The World, The Flesh and the Devil than Last Man on Earth.

Well, since I saw it on TCM :)
Title: Re: So, what did we learn?
Post by: MST3Kgirl on September 26, 2008, 08:19:36 PM
I learned that NYC likes to evacuate people from danger 2 by 2...it's a lot more effective to get through huge amounts of people that way...

it was obviously way easy for the child and the woman to get off the island...