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Title: Ever notice how many movies are based on Seven Samurai?
Post by: Cibernético II on November 17, 2006, 01:10:18 PM
there are are quite a few movies based on Seven Samurai or based on a movie that was a remake of Seven Samurai.



Shichinin no Samurai (Seven Samurai) 1954
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The Magnificent Seven (most famous remake) 1960 ---> (sequels) Return of the Seven 1966, Guns of the Magnificent Seven 1969, The Magnificent Seven Ride! 1972,

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Liu he qian shou (Return of the Scorpion; kung fu remake of SS) 1979

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Battle Beyond the Stars (Star Wars style remake of Magnificent Seven) 1980

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I Sette Magnifici Gladiatori (The Seven Magnificent Gladiators; sword and sandal remake starring Lou Ferrigno) 1983

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Dune Warriors (post apocalyptic remake starring David Carradine) 1990

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Dikiy Vostok (The Wild East; remake featuring dwarves being attacked by bikers in post-Soviet Asia, produced by Kazakhstan [not Uzbekistan assholes, high five!]) 1993

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 "The Magnificent Seven" (TV series) 1998-2000

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Samurai 7 (a terrible [imo] futurized anime version that airs on Showtime, only spawning to be aproved by the Kurosawa estate) 2005



that list is not including all the movies that took footage from SS, M7, Battle Beyond the Stars. I'm also sure there's a few video games based on SS
Title: Re: Ever notice how many movies are based on Seven Samurai?
Post by: Sharktopus on November 17, 2006, 04:50:02 PM
A Bug's Life is kind of a takeoff on Seven Samurai/Magnificent Seven. Also Three Amigos, for that matter.
Title: Re: Ever notice how many movies are based on Seven Samurai?
Post by: mrbasehart on November 17, 2006, 06:01:55 PM
Well, they've certainly picked a good film to rip off.  The last 20 minutes are awesome.
Title: Re: Ever notice how many movies are based on Seven Samurai?
Post by: kodiakthejuggler on November 17, 2006, 08:59:45 PM
Eh.

The idea behind The Seven Samurai was ripped off from Steve Allen, just like everything else.

 ;)
Title: Re: Ever notice how many movies are based on Seven Samurai?
Post by: Cap'n UKRiffer on November 18, 2006, 06:25:44 AM
there are are quite a few movies based on Seven Samurai or based on a movie that was a remake of Seven Samurai.

Snow White And The Seven Dwarves?

Think about it...  ;)
Title: Re: Ever notice how many movies are based on Seven Samurai?
Post by: Bob on November 18, 2006, 06:49:12 AM
"7 Brides for 7 Brothers"
"Se7en"
"Seven Years in Tibet"
"The Seven Year's Itch"

Kurasowa had LOT of this movies and themes shamelessly ripped off.   My dad always loved "A Fistfull of Dollars" then I showed him "Yojimbo" a couple of years ago.   He could not believe that they were the same movie, almost scene for scene.    I dont even know if the Bruce Willis movie "Last Man Standing" gave him any credit in the movie credits either.
Title: Re: Ever notice how many movies are based on Seven Samurai?
Post by: tgeorgic on November 18, 2006, 07:14:00 AM
yes, last man standing did give credit, it lists the writers of the story as being Ryuzo Kikushima and Akira Kurosawa and walter hill as doing the screenplay.  that was a fun movie :)
Title: Re: Ever notice how many movies are based on Seven Samurai?
Post by: daltysmilth on November 18, 2006, 09:05:05 AM
Though someone should point out that the Seven Samurai itself was inspired by Hollywood Westerns.

And hey, an upcoming Bruce Campbell movie is based on the same idea.  "They Call Me Bruce" is set in a small town that's plagued by demons and the undead, and they see a Bruce Campbell movie where he's fighting the undead, so they think he's a real... undead... fighter... guy... so they hire him to take care of their undead problem.
Title: Re: Ever notice how many movies are based on Seven Samurai?
Post by: Cibernético II on November 18, 2006, 09:20:15 AM
  I dont even know if the Bruce Willis movie "Last Man Standing" gave him any credit in the movie credits either.

also Desert Heat, a JCVD movie from 1999. In the movie, one of the characters invites another to watch Yojimbo together. Which is wierd, making it work of metafiction. And niether Yojimbo or Kurosawa are mentioned in the credits.
Title: Re: Ever notice how many movies are based on Seven Samurai?
Post by: Dr.Impossible on November 18, 2006, 11:09:42 AM
I love Kurosawa. He invented the "hero kills like 50 guys by himself" genre. Unfortunately he doesn't get the respect he deserves in Japan, which is soooooo tragic since Japan really could have learned how to make movies that don't suck from him.
Title: Re: Ever notice how many movies are based on Seven Samurai?
Post by: Bob on November 18, 2006, 12:59:12 PM
I love Kurosawa. He invented the "hero kills like 50 guys by himself" genre. Unfortunately he doesn't get the respect he deserves in Japan, which is soooooo tragic since Japan really could have learned how to make movies that don't suck from him.

I like how terms like "Roshoman" (sp) have crept into the english language to describe an event that several people have different memories of...... probably in Wilipedia.
Title: Re: Ever notice how many movies are based on Seven Samurai?
Post by: Sharktopus on November 18, 2006, 02:05:50 PM
I love Kurosawa. He invented the "hero kills like 50 guys by himself" genre. Unfortunately he doesn't get the respect he deserves in Japan, which is soooooo tragic since Japan really could have learned how to make movies that don't suck from him.

And the English could have learned how to make better movies from Hitchcock and David Lean, but instead it's just Hugh Grant hypnotizing women by blinking 80 times a minute and the 3000th adaptation of Dickens, Bronte, or Shakespeare.  ;D But I kid.
Title: Re: Ever notice how many movies are based on Seven Samurai?
Post by: Cap'n UKRiffer on November 18, 2006, 02:48:30 PM
And the English could have learned how to make better movies from Hitchcock and David Lean, but instead it's just Hugh Grant hypnotizing women by blinking 80 times a minute and the 3000th adaptation of Dickens, Bronte, or Shakespeare.  ;D But I kid.

You forgot gangster or crime movies... seems to be all that comes out of the UK
Title: Re: Ever notice how many movies are based on Seven Samurai?
Post by: Sharktopus on November 18, 2006, 02:53:51 PM
And the English could have learned how to make better movies from Hitchcock and David Lean, but instead it's just Hugh Grant hypnotizing women by blinking 80 times a minute and the 3000th adaptation of Dickens, Bronte, or Shakespeare.  ;D But I kid.

You forgot gangster or crime movies... seems to be all that comes out of the UK

True, but I tend to like those movies. Except Sexy Beast. That was unbearable.
Title: Re: Ever notice how many movies are based on Seven Samurai?
Post by: 6079SmithW on November 18, 2006, 03:13:36 PM
And the English could have learned how to make better movies from Hitchcock and David Lean, but instead it's just Hugh Grant hypnotizing women by blinking 80 times a minute and the 3000th adaptation of Dickens, Bronte, or Shakespeare.  ;D But I kid.

You forgot gangster or crime movies... seems to be all that comes out of the UK

True, but I tend to like those movies. Except Sexy Beast. That was unbearable.
Them's fighting words, boy.

Seriously, how can you dislike that movie? If nothing else, it easily took "the most gratuitous use of the word 'cunt' in a serious screenplay" award for that year.
Title: Re: Ever notice how many movies are based on Seven Samurai?
Post by: Sharktopus on November 18, 2006, 03:27:53 PM
And the English could have learned how to make better movies from Hitchcock and David Lean, but instead it's just Hugh Grant hypnotizing women by blinking 80 times a minute and the 3000th adaptation of Dickens, Bronte, or Shakespeare.  ;D But I kid.

You forgot gangster or crime movies... seems to be all that comes out of the UK

True, but I tend to like those movies. Except Sexy Beast. That was unbearable.
Them's fighting words, boy.

Seriously, how can you dislike that movie? If nothing else, it easily took "the most gratuitous use of the word 'cunt' in a serious screenplay" award for that year.

I just couldn't stand Sexy Beast. I liked Ray Winstone, and the underwater heist scene was cool, but Ben Kingsley gave the most irritating performance I've ever seen. I don't care that he was supposed to an irritating prick, it was still unbearable.
Title: Re: Ever notice how many movies are based on Seven Samurai?
Post by: 6079SmithW on November 18, 2006, 03:54:15 PM
And the English could have learned how to make better movies from Hitchcock and David Lean, but instead it's just Hugh Grant hypnotizing women by blinking 80 times a minute and the 3000th adaptation of Dickens, Bronte, or Shakespeare.  ;D But I kid.

You forgot gangster or crime movies... seems to be all that comes out of the UK

True, but I tend to like those movies. Except Sexy Beast. That was unbearable.
Them's fighting words, boy.

Seriously, how can you dislike that movie? If nothing else, it easily took "the most gratuitous use of the word 'cunt' in a serious screenplay" award for that year.

I just couldn't stand Sexy Beast. I liked Ray Winstone, and the underwater heist scene was cool, but Ben Kingsley gave the most irritating performance I've ever seen. I don't care that he was supposed to an irritating prick, it was still unbearable.
How can you possibly not like exactly the same things as me! I'll kill you!

I bet you don't like Captain Crunch, either.
Title: Re: Ever notice how many movies are based on Seven Samurai?
Post by: WouTar on November 18, 2006, 05:13:25 PM
I bet you don't like Captain Crunch, either.

WHAT did you just say to the captain!? Boy, you're seriously looking for trouble.
Title: Re: Ever notice how many movies are based on Seven Samurai?
Post by: mrbasehart on November 18, 2006, 07:35:44 PM
Kurasowa had LOT of this movies and themes shamelessly ripped off.   My dad always loved "A Fistfull of Dollars" then I showed him "Yojimbo" a couple of years ago.   He could not believe that they were the same movie, almost scene for scene.    I dont even know if the Bruce Willis movie "Last Man Standing" gave him any credit in the movie credits either.

Because Yojinbo's not an original idea.  It's based on a Dashiell Hammet novel called Red Harvest, where a man plays two gangs off each other in a small town.  It's a great book by the way, just like the movie.   :)
Title: Re: Ever notice how many movies are based on Seven Samurai?
Post by: Sharktopus on November 19, 2006, 12:36:05 AM
I bet you don't like Captain Crunch, either.

WHAT did you just say to the captain!? Boy, you're seriously looking for trouble.

Actually, I don't like Cap'n Crunch. It's my theory that those adults, or at least quasi-adults such as myself, who love oversweetened breakfast cereal want it because they were deprived of it as children. I, however, was allowed pretty much whatever cereal I asked for, so I don't seek it out now. Sadly, my preference for the blander cereals seems to have no slimming effect on my waistline, however. Maybe I shouldn't eat three bowls at a time. But you can't watch cartoons without cereal! And I watch so many cartoons...
Title: Re: Ever notice how many movies are based on Seven Samurai?
Post by: Bob on November 19, 2006, 07:54:19 AM
Funny, I really liked "Sexy Beast" and thought Kingsley's performance was fantastic.    Of course, I hated "ET" when I finally saw it last year, so what do I know?   ::)
Title: Re: Ever notice how many movies are based on Seven Samurai?
Post by: 6079SmithW on November 19, 2006, 02:19:43 PM
Funny, I really liked "Sexy Beast" and thought Kingsley's performance was fantastic.    Of course, I hated "ET" when I finally saw it last year, so what do I know?   ::)
I find that most Speilberg movies either work or they don't, and rewatching and arguing never help. I don't generally like his work, but there are a few I really love (Munich, Raiders, Close Encounters) and I know at least one person for each who just found it stupid or pointless.
Title: Re: Ever notice how many movies are based on Seven Samurai?
Post by: Sharktopus on November 19, 2006, 03:16:56 PM
Funny, I really liked "Sexy Beast" and thought Kingsley's performance was fantastic.    Of course, I hated "ET" when I finally saw it last year, so what do I know?   ::)

I absolutely hate ET. If I had to choose between watching Sexy Beast and ET I'd probably choose Sexy Beast. Or poke my eyes out and stuff them in my ears. One or the other.
Title: Re: Ever notice how many movies are based on Seven Samurai?
Post by: Bob on November 19, 2006, 03:24:34 PM
Funny, I really liked "Sexy Beast" and thought Kingsley's performance was fantastic.    Of course, I hated "ET" when I finally saw it last year, so what do I know?   ::)

I absolutely hate ET. If I had to choose between watching Sexy Beast and ET I'd probably choose Sexy Beast. Or poke my eyes out and stuff them in my ears. One or the other.


The choices one makes defines the man.
 :P
Title: Re: Ever notice how many movies are based on Seven Samurai?
Post by: 6079SmithW on November 19, 2006, 03:28:31 PM
Me, I'd go for ST: The Sexy Terrestrial. Although I've heard good things about Extra Beast.