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Title: Young Adult Fiction
Post by: Fuzzy Necromancer on April 25, 2008, 03:35:28 PM
Alright, fess up. Who enjoys some of the good young-adult-targeted, or even children-targeted, books out there, aside from harry potter & narnia? Heck, who even enjoys the bad YA fiction out there?



I personally love Clive Barker's Abarat  (and Abarat: Days of Magic, Nights of War). I actually consider it to be his best work, after sampling his adult-age stuff. Abarat is what Weaveworld wants to be when it grows up.



Garth Nix is also "Freakin awesome", as the kids say. His Sabriel Trilogy/Two Books, the latter of which was split in too cuz it was getting too long for the publisher's liking, is in my opinion (and in my mom's opinion) right up there with tolkien & Lewis, for quality, content, and originality. Keys the Kingdom is fun, and if a bit young, the concepts and style is fantastic. I love the opening description in Mister Monday.


What do you think sirs?
Title: Re: Young Adult Fiction
Post by: acoletterose on April 25, 2008, 05:11:00 PM
As soon as I saw the title of this topic, I immediately thought of those two authors.

I'm also a fan of William Nicholson's Wind on Fire trilogy and Gerald Morris' series based on the tales of King Arthur called the Squire's Tales.
Title: Re: Young Adult Fiction
Post by: Fuzzy Necromancer on April 25, 2008, 05:25:10 PM
I have just finished "The Black Tattoo" and found it good. ^^ Interesting cosmology, loveable characters, lots of cool monsters, even if the villain seemed a bit generic, and most of all, a satisfying ending. It has been my personal experience that a good ending is the hardest bit to write, and the one with the least financial incentive behind it.

The Percy and the Olympians series is an enjoyable greek mythos tale in the modern setting, and suitably paratactic. Only thing is I mostly go through audiobooks these days, and the current reader has quite an annoying voice. >.o
Title: Re: Young Adult Fiction
Post by: mrbasehart on April 25, 2008, 07:14:41 PM
The Northern Lights trilogy by Phillip Pullman is excellent.   When I was younger, I loved the Famous Five.  They're a bit dated now (hell, they were dated when I read 'em) but are immensely enjoyable.
Title: Re: Young Adult Fiction
Post by: BBQ Platypus on April 26, 2008, 12:00:47 AM
My favorite young adult novel is...well, Young Adult Novel, by Daniel Pinkwater.  It's a brilliant satire of books targeted at the 10-15 year-old demographic (and of the social lives of said 10-15 year olds), with a great deal of absurdist humor present throughout (for the main characters are actually members of their own in-school Dadaist movement).  It features characters with names like Igor, Charles the Cat, the Indiana Zephyr, and the Honorable Venustiano Carranza (President of Mexico).

I'm pretty sure that a compilation of five Daniel Pinkwater novels was the first chapter book I ever read, and when I read those stories again as a 13-year-old, they were actually FUNNIER.  If I had to describe his style, it would be like a New-Jersey-flavored Douglas Adams (if that makes any sense).  His books are great for social misfits of any age (or just anyone with a zany enough sense of humor), and I recommend them highly.  Seriously - buy some of his books RIGHT NOW.

(And I'd be remiss if I didn't mention Borgel, my OTHER favorite Pinkwater story.  They're all great, though).

EDIT:  What the heck, I might as well just link straight to his books on Amazon.  These two are great for starters:

http://www.amazon.com/Novels-Mendelsohn-Spiegel-Snarkout-Avocado/dp/0374423296 (http://www.amazon.com/Novels-Mendelsohn-Spiegel-Snarkout-Avocado/dp/0374423296)

http://www.amazon.com/4-Fantastic-Novels-Daniel-Pinkwater/dp/0689834888/ref=sr_1_15?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1209194099&sr=1-15 (http://www.amazon.com/4-Fantastic-Novels-Daniel-Pinkwater/dp/0689834888/ref=sr_1_15?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1209194099&sr=1-15)
Title: Re: Young Adult Fiction
Post by: Fuzzy Necromancer on April 26, 2008, 11:56:07 AM
I imagine Young Adult Novel is rather difficult to locate via an online or library title search.
Title: Re: Young Adult Fiction
Post by: Kat Rocha on April 29, 2008, 11:42:28 AM
Garth Nix is also "Freakin awesome", as the kids say. His Sabriel Trilogy/Two Books, the latter of which was split in too cuz it was getting too long for the publisher's liking, is in my opinion (and in my mom's opinion) right up there with tolkien & Lewis, for quality, content, and originality.

The second I saw this thread I was imediately going to post about Garth Nix. The Abhorsin series is definately in my Top Ten list of book people should read. :)

Have you read "Shade's Children" yet? This book I'm surprised is even in the "young adult" section with how dark it is.

Another great "young adult" book is The Golden Goblet by Eloise Jarvis McGraw. Grave robbing in Ancient Egypt.  Gotta love it.

-Kat
Title: Re: Young Adult Fiction
Post by: anais.jude on April 30, 2008, 08:11:04 AM
I love Tamora Pierce, but she is partially chick lit, so i doubt anyone has heard of her (well fantasy, young adult, chick lit but i digress)
I didn't like Phillip Pullman's books, probably because he is of the school of thought that Milton sided with Satan (ie an idiot)
I know there are more, i love YAF...i will continue when my brain goes back after school is out
Title: Re: Young Adult Fiction
Post by: Tripe on April 30, 2008, 09:41:12 AM
I didn't like Phillip Pullman's books, probably because he is of the school of thought that Milton sided with Satan (ie an idiot)

Really? I mean it's subtle but how can one read Paradise Lost and think that Milton sympathises with the Devil. I mean I do but the author certainly doesn't. ;)
Title: Re: Young Adult Fiction
Post by: skenderberg on April 30, 2008, 11:07:59 AM
I personally love Clive Barker's Abarat  (and Abarat: Days of Magic, Nights of War). I actually consider it to be his best work, after sampling his adult-age stuff. Abarat is what Weaveworld wants to be when it grows up.
I want to know when he's finally going to finish that series.  Both novels were good, but the second one ended on a cliffhanger, and came out in 2004.  He needs to get on the ball before his target audience grows up without him.

If you liked that series, you should check out his first young adult novel, The Thief of Always.

More recommendations:

The Bartimaeus Trilogy by Jonathan Stroud, a fantasy/alternate history where England is ruled by magician facists.
The Attolia series by Megan Whalen Turner, a vaguely greek mythology-ish series of books.  Some of the best young adult fantasy out there.
The Sea of Trolls, by Nancy Farmer.  About a boy caught between Norse and Celtic cultures and mythologies.  Actually, pretty much anything by Nancy Farmer is good.
Title: Re: Young Adult Fiction
Post by: BBQ Platypus on April 30, 2008, 01:50:41 PM
I imagine Young Adult Novel is rather difficult to locate via an online or library title search.

Heh heh...yeah.  Especially seeing as how it's not available by itself anymore (it's only commercially available in story collections).
Title: Re: Young Adult Fiction
Post by: Fuzzy Necromancer on May 02, 2008, 04:57:07 PM
Garth Nix is also "Freakin awesome", as the kids say. His Sabriel Trilogy/Two Books, the latter of which was split in too cuz it was getting too long for the publisher's liking, is in my opinion (and in my mom's opinion) right up there with tolkien & Lewis, for quality, content, and originality.

The second I saw this thread I was imediately going to post about Garth Nix. The Abhorsin series is definately in my Top Ten list of book people should read. :)

Have you read "Shade's Children" yet? This book I'm surprised is even in the "young adult" section with how dark it is.

You kidding? Dark is nothing compared to what the force-feed kids these days. I remember in middle school part of the required reading was "A Rose for Emily", and high school we encountered Bananafish, and that story about the couple with the dead baby, and ugh, it just seems like they don't think it's proper Literature unless it makes you want to hang yourself. x.x
Title: Re: Young Adult Fiction
Post by: Fortis on May 02, 2008, 05:06:13 PM
Ender's Game...

but my all time favorite is Alcatraz Vs. The Evil Librarians
Title: Re: Young Adult Fiction
Post by: Fuzzy Necromancer on May 03, 2008, 09:48:39 AM
I love Tamora Pierce, but she is partially chick lit, so i doubt anyone has heard of her (well fantasy, young adult, chick lit but i digress)
I didn't like Phillip Pullman's books, probably because he is of the school of thought that Milton sided with Satan (ie an idiot)
I know there are more, i love YAF...i will continue when my brain goes back after school is out

I've read some of her stuff, such as the "woman who rides like a man" cycle. I thought it was okay, but it got rather preachy at times, and some of the Dues Ex Machinas she used were hard to swallow, like
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
I tried to enjoy "Wild Magic", but it was just too, I dunno, something, and I couldn't get through it.
Title: Re: Young Adult Fiction
Post by: acoletterose on June 06, 2008, 11:24:46 AM
Ender's Game...


Love the series. Ender's Game was my favorite but I also liked Ender's Shadow.
Title: Re: Young Adult Fiction
Post by: Fortis on June 06, 2008, 03:12:19 PM
Ender's Game...


Love the series. Ender's Game was my favorite but I also liked Ender's Shadow.

Have you read the sequels to Ender's Shadow? They are incredible.
Title: Re: Young Adult Fiction
Post by: acoletterose on June 06, 2008, 06:05:14 PM
I have indeed. It's been awhile though, I should read them again.

I tried reading all of the books in the series in a week or so, but I got bored after I finished the ones on Bean and I have picked up Card since. And dat's a damn shame.
Title: Re: Young Adult Fiction
Post by: Fortis on June 06, 2008, 10:17:45 PM
Just don't read Card's "Worthing" books. Shudder.

One thing I've learned when reading Card is that his stuff is either brilliant and fantastic books...or really really weird. I've been reading his anthology of short stories called Keeper of Dreams, and some of them are amazing mindblowing stories, and then others are just unreadable.
Title: Re: Young Adult Fiction
Post by: Fuzzy Necromancer on July 12, 2008, 08:57:42 PM
I found Card's "Enchantment" to be, well, enchanting. Great historical realism and meta-value.
Title: Re: Young Adult Fiction
Post by: Fortis on July 12, 2008, 09:00:15 PM
I found Card's "Enchantment" to be, well, enchanting. Great historical realism and meta-value.

Hmm...I'll have to check it out
Title: Re: Young Adult Fiction
Post by: Johnny Unusual on July 19, 2008, 08:26:34 PM
I read Thief of Always a few years ago and really liked it.  I picked it up because I had never read Clive Barker before and heard he has a similar style to Neil Gaiman.  I knew his reputation for gore and mythology but I didn't realized that it was a young adult book.  I was certainly hooked though and really enjoyed it.  I'm surprised it hasn't been made into a movie yet.
Title: Re: Young Adult Fiction
Post by: Fuzzy Necromancer on July 20, 2008, 10:28:32 AM
Oh yeah. Theif of Always is wonderful, and it's a decent paralell/barker version of Neil Gaiman's "Coraline" ^-^

BTW, Coraline is coming out as a 3-D movie in 2009.

Pray for it.
Title: Re: Young Adult Fiction
Post by: Kzinistzerg on July 20, 2008, 06:09:44 PM
Hmmm... I'll list.

Sabriel+Lirael+Abbhorsen By Garth Nix
Silverwing, Sunwing, Firewing, Darkwing by Kenneth Oppel
His Dark Materials Trilogy by Phillip Pullman
The Olympians by Rick Riordan
Any "Juvenile Fiction" by Heinlein
Any of Tamora Pierce's books (Though I reccomend recent books over past books)
The Midnighters Trilogy by Scott Westerfield (And anything else he wrote)
The Lost Years of Merlin (can't remember who by)
Anything by Diana Wynne Jones (like The Dark Lord of Derkholm, which is basically a magic version of arthur dent)

Lots more, none spring to mind, however. I have to say, though, that the universe of Sabriel is just an amazing universe, as far as Death and Life are concerned. Really quite good.

OH! And my favorite, nearly forgot here, is the Firekeeper series, by Jane Lindskold. And anything by her. The titles are 'Through Wolf's Eyes', 'Wolf's Head, Wolf's Heart', 'The Dragon of Despair', 'Wolf Captured', 'Wolf Hunting', 'Wolf's Blood'.

The main character was literally raised by wolves... Smart wolves. Wolves who are part of a segment of animals who are every bit as intelligent as people...
Title: Re: Young Adult Fiction
Post by: exlibris11235 on August 02, 2008, 11:25:39 PM
I love Tamora Pierce, but she is partially chick lit, so i doubt anyone has heard of her (well fantasy, young adult, chick lit but i digress)

I'll admit, I love Tamora Pierce too. I'm a big fan of The Protector of the Small series, and I loved Terrier. Sometimes one just wants a little bit of girl-power cotton-candy reading.  I don't know if I'd classify her as "Chick Lit", though, since Tammy Pierce doesn't really do post-feminism (thank goodness).

I do browse the YA/Children's sections all the time, looking for old books I read  and liked when I was a kid and new books that look good.

Other YA/Children's books I love:
Catherine, Called Birdy and The Midwife's Apprentice by Karen Cushman
The Wee Free Men and A Hat Full of Sky, by Terry Pratchett
The Time Quartet (A Wrinkle In Time, A Wind in the Door, A Swiftly Tilting Planet, and Many Waters) by Madeleine L'Engle
Matilda and The BFG, by Roald Dahl
Cheaper by the Dozen and Belles on Their Toes by Frank Gilbreth Jr. and Ernestine Gilbreth-Carey (nothing like the recent movie, thank heavens!)
Title: Re: Young Adult Fiction
Post by: Fuzzy Necromancer on August 07, 2008, 06:58:20 AM
Skullduggery Pleasant.

I think it might be more juvenile than young adult fiction, but it's still great, and the audiobook thank goodness has a spectacular reader. His inflections and tones ensure you never confuse voices and fill even the most minor characters with vivid life. It's got great dialogue, humorous whit, pleasing detective tropes and fantasy elements, and a walking, talking, fireball-flinging skeleton as a good guy. What's not to like?