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Title: Bill and Ted Remake
Post by: AmandaGal on April 07, 2008, 04:03:31 PM
Has this been posted? Sorry if so:
"Bill & Ted are two Year 10 students, on the verge of failing their school year (the principal, Principal Baumheiser, is their main adversary), when they discover a way to travel through time – yes, it’s by way of a phone again, albeit a funkier one than that in the original – to meet some of the characters they’re supposed to have learnt about at school. They met Gandhi, Calamity Jane… the list goes on. The next week, Bill & Ted have to present a “full presentation of every class” they’re failing, which is all of them."


http://www.moviehole.net/news/20080402_bill_ted_remake_yep_and_we_got.html


Excuse me while I cry.

Title: Re: Bill and Ted Remake
Post by: esoobaC .T bocaJ on April 07, 2008, 04:09:14 PM
I read this on 4-3-08
didn't feel like posting it
 ;D
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Even though we've heard several times that Keanu Reeves does not do sequels (except "The Matrix), MTV News spoke to him about returning for another "Bill and Ted's" adventure.

"I hear they're doing a remake," Reeves said of the movie that launched him to fame. "[Alex Winter and I spoke] on the phone the other day [about it]. We're great friends."

So does that mean there's a chance that Reeves may actually return for another installment? "The most serious we ever got was a few years ago," he confessed of unknown third film. "I had once mentioned about doing it when we were 40. Now maybe the only shot we have is to do it when we’re 50."
Title: Re: Bill and Ted Remake
Post by: RoninFox on April 07, 2008, 04:12:09 PM
Excuse me while I say something you probably don't hear often.

NO ONE should play this part other than Keanu Reeves!  There can be no other Ted.  Also, Alex Winter is forever Bill S Preston!

They tried to explode this property after its initial success.  The animated series did okay by movie-spin-off animated series standards (helped by getting the original cast together with a great mind like Paul Dini in charge), but notice what happened when they tried a live action series with these characters played by different actors.  Wait you cant, no one actually saw this series.

I'm usually a big proponent of the "you can't condemn it until you actually watch it" but in this case can you honestly imagine Ted Theodore Logan played by anyone other than Keanu?  Keanu is Ted, dang it!  That's why he was so good in the role, he didn't have to act at all!
Title: Re: Bill and Ted Remake
Post by: Rude on April 07, 2008, 04:33:02 PM
Quote from: RoninFox
NO ONE should play this part other than Keanu Reeves!  There can be no other Ted.  Also, Alex Winter is forever Bill S Preston!

Actually... according to the article, it's less of a remake and more like "The Next Generation." I think it mentions that the new film takes places quite a few years after the original movies. Which isn't exactly better or anything, but at least they won't have new actors playing your beloved characters... at least, not in name anyway.

-Rude
Title: Re: Bill and Ted Remake
Post by: RoninFox on April 07, 2008, 04:37:10 PM
Quote from: RoninFox
NO ONE should play this part other than Keanu Reeves!  There can be no other Ted.  Also, Alex Winter is forever Bill S Preston!

Actually... according to the article, it's less of a remake and more like "The Next Generation." I think it mentions that the new film takes places quite a few years after the original movies. Which isn't exactly better or anything, but at least they won't have new actors playing your beloved characters... at least, not in name anyway.

-Rude

and what article is this that's so different that what I just read?
Title: Re: Bill and Ted Remake
Post by: Rude on April 07, 2008, 04:41:29 PM
Quote from: RoninFox
and what article is this that's so different that what I just read?

http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Bill-And-Ted-s-Bogus-Remake-8380.html

I don't think it's so different... in fact, it may have just misquoted the original article. Or at least taken it out of context, because i can't imagine trying to market a Bill & Ted movie without Bill & Ted. Who knows, though? It's all just rumors at this point.

-Rude
Title: Re: Bill and Ted Remake
Post by: RoninFox on April 07, 2008, 04:50:04 PM
Quote from: RoninFox
and what article is this that's so different that what I just read?

http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Bill-And-Ted-s-Bogus-Remake-8380.html

I don't think it's so different... in fact, it may have just misquoted the original article. Or at least taken it out of context, because i can't imagine trying to market a Bill & Ted movie without Bill & Ted. Who knows, though? It's all just rumors at this point.

-Rude


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The original Bill & Ted and the Wyld Stallions, are retired. The Restart is about two new high-school kids on the verge of failing who discover a way to travel through time using the phone.

I think what they're saying is that the original characters are gone, and they're starting fresh with a new Bill and Ted entirely.  It does say before that in the article that this is not a sequel, but a remake.
Title: Re: Bill and Ted Remake
Post by: GalvaTRION on April 07, 2008, 09:36:39 PM
There are some things that should never, ever happen for any reason whatsoever. This... is one of those things. Why don't we just remake Robocop while we're at it.

... oh yeah, that's happening too.

...

...

... Hollywood needs to get napalmed.
Title: Re: Bill and Ted Remake
Post by: AmandaGal on April 07, 2008, 09:50:33 PM
Yeah, next they'll be remaking surf ninjas.  Are there no original ideas in the world anymore?

I seriously doubt we used them all.
Title: Re: Bill and Ted Remake
Post by: Fortis on April 07, 2008, 10:54:58 PM
Excuse me while I say something you probably don't hear often.

NO ONE should play this part other than Keanu Reeves!  There can be no other Ted.  Also, Alex Winter is forever Bill S Preston!

They tried to explode this property after its initial success.  The animated series did okay by movie-spin-off animated series standards (helped by getting the original cast together with a great mind like Paul Dini in charge), but notice what happened when they tried a live action series with these characters played by different actors.  Wait you cant, no one actually saw this series.

I'm usually a big proponent of the "you can't condemn it until you actually watch it" but in this case can you honestly imagine Ted Theodore Logan played by anyone other than Keanu?  Keanu is Ted, dang it!  That's why he was so good in the role, he didn't have to act at all!

It was Kaunu's only good role...he was Ted.

(http://b7.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/00235/74/33/235133347_s.jpg)

I am Ted Theodore Logan!
Title: Re: Bill and Ted Remake
Post by: bratpop on April 07, 2008, 11:09:32 PM
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Bill & Ted are two Year 10 students
So they're British now?

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on the verge of failing their school year
That would be year 10, right? Just so we're on the same page...

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They met Gandhi, Calamity Jane... the list goes on
Yeah, I hope so. That's not a very long list.

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The next week, Bill & Ted have to present a "full presentation of every class" they’re failing, which is all of them."
So now instead of just figures from history class, they have to present historical figures from math class, science class, art class, English class, Spanish class, social studies, gym and video production? That makes a lot more sense than the original.

I remember when I was in year 10, they made us write a two-hour Broadway musical in order to pass. That's why I'm homeless and have nothing now. Except for this laptop. And this yo-yo.

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The original Bill & Ted and the Wyld Stallions, are retired.
So it takes place in a future utopia but kids still have to cheat to pass their exams?
Title: Re: Bill and Ted Remake
Post by: AmandaGal on April 07, 2008, 11:25:41 PM
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The original Bill & Ted and the Wyld Stallions, are retired.
So it takes place in a future utopia but kids still have to cheat to pass their exams?

I think you guys are confusing "retired" characters with the characters retiring.  As Ronin said,  I think this sentence means: "The original actors who played Bill and Ted and the band name Wyld Stallions have been updated and replaced with this new band name and these new kids."

I don't think it means "Bill and Ted" and the "Wyld Stallions" are retired in this movie, living in a nursing home in Palm Springs or something.

I could be wrong.  It doesn't make sense in the story's canon to have them retired and some new band being the cause of a Utopian society after them, in almost exactly the same way, though.  So, I hope I'm not wrong.
Title: Re: Bill and Ted Remake
Post by: bratpop on April 07, 2008, 11:53:29 PM
I actually thought it did mean that, in which case Wyld Stallions have not become the basis for a perfect society despite having Martians and Death as band members, and the year is 2008/2009 and the world has not changed despite the events of the first and second movies, regardless of the magazine articles during the end credits stating otherwise, and now there's two other kids who for some reason will have a very important band even though nothing could be very important after everything is perfect, and somehow all of this escaped the screenwriters because they really just wanted to remake the movie but more dudically gnarlsome and non-suxxors or something.

Okay, if "the names/characters of Bill and Ted and Wyld Stallions" have been retired, that was a weird way of putting it.

And Sonic Death Monkey is a way better band name.
Title: Re: Bill and Ted Remake
Post by: bratpop on April 07, 2008, 11:55:51 PM
P.S. I don't think there's a subculture right now that can be as funny as Valley Dudes. Day-Glo wearing rave kids freak people out, and emo kids just plain suck. I suppose it's possible to find two young actormedians™ that can pull off parodies of 'kids these days,' but I'd be surprised. Pop culture now is more scary than funny. Bill & Ted was Fast Times meets Back to the Future. This will forever be just a remake.
Title: Re: Bill and Ted Remake
Post by: esoobaC .T bocaJ on April 08, 2008, 04:57:50 AM
There are some things that should never, ever happen for any reason whatsoever. This... is one of those things. Why don't we just remake Robocop while we're at it.

... oh yeah, that's happening too.


Wait, what?


yup

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MGM released an announcement, promoting a former Vice Chairman of Worldwide Production for Universal Pictures to a Chairperson at the studio. In the same announcement, MGM mentions some of the franchises that will continue on the big screen, including "The Outer Limits" and "Robocop."

"MGM is planning an exciting fall and winter release schedule. In partnership with Sony Pictures Entertainment, MGM will bring new installments of two of its tentpole franchises -- the new James Bond movie Quantum of Solace and Steve Martin in Pink Panther 2. MGM will also release United Artists' international thriller Valkyrie, starring Tom Cruise on October 3. With the appointment of Parent, MGM will enter its new phase of evolution by focusing on its major movie franchises highlighted by James Bond and Pink Panther sequels, The Hobbit, Thomas Crown Affair 2, The Outer Limits, Robocop, Death Wish and Fame, among others."

We've previously heard some rumors about a potential rejuvenation of the "Robocop" franchise, but since it has already made into an MGM announcement, it has clearly reached the in-talks stage. Whether this will be a continuation, a remake or a re-imagining is yet to be known. Stay tuned.
Title: Re: Bill and Ted Remake
Post by: bratpop on April 08, 2008, 05:01:26 AM
Uh, they're making a MO-VIE out of The Outer Limits?

And uh yeah, Pink Panther sequels are a real cash cow. Assuming the two people who saw the first one are willing to pay several million dollars per ticket.
Title: Re: Bill and Ted Remake
Post by: RoninFox on April 08, 2008, 05:20:44 AM
P.S. I don't think there's a subculture right now that can be as funny as Valley Dudes. Day-Glo wearing rave kids freak people out, and emo kids just plain suck. I suppose it's possible to find two young actormedians™ that can pull off parodies of 'kids these days,' but I'd be surprised. Pop culture now is more scary than funny. Bill & Ted was Fast Times meets Back to the Future. This will forever be just a remake.

This is a great point, I've really been turning this idea of a remake over in my head and I just don't see it as being anywhere near as funny once you take it out of the late 80s/early 90s setting.
Title: Re: Bill and Ted Remake
Post by: mrbasehart on April 08, 2008, 05:26:41 AM
Uh, they're making a MO-VIE out of The Outer Limits?

And uh yeah, Pink Panther sequels are a real cash cow. Assuming the two people who saw the first one are willing to pay several million dollars per ticket.

It made 150 million dollars worldwide, making double what it cost to make.
Title: Re: Bill and Ted Remake
Post by: RoninFox on April 08, 2008, 05:29:24 AM
I liked the new Pink Panther (though I didn't see it until DVD) and I'll go see the sequels.  Some remakes work for me, some just are wrong from the start.
Title: Re: Bill and Ted Remake
Post by: bratpop on April 08, 2008, 06:01:49 AM
Ahhhh... it's a profit deal. "Guess your weight! Win some worthless crap!"
Title: Re: Bill and Ted Remake
Post by: gammer on April 08, 2008, 07:26:25 AM
This part at the end sums it up all to well...

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Assume this will go straight to DVD

*ding ding ding*
Sounds like we have a winner!
Title: Re: Bill and Ted Remake
Post by: bratpop on April 08, 2008, 07:41:12 AM
Well... Dumb and Dumberer didn't go straight to DVD did it?
Title: Re: Bill and Ted Remake
Post by: ebeth on April 08, 2008, 07:41:38 AM
So let me get this straight.  Absolutely every movie that has been made is now going to be remade by people who saw the original and have always dreamed of re-doing it in their own image as if they were some kind of God?

So that means originality will be replaced by re-imaging and the earth will split itself in two and I will be forced to live in a quasi-Metroid-like world filled with dark matter all because someone didn't like the pacing of Two Moon Junction.

Kill me now
Title: Re: Bill and Ted Remake
Post by: MSTJedi on April 09, 2008, 03:08:18 PM
So let me get this straight.  Absolutely every movie that has been made is now going to be remade by people who saw the original and have always dreamed of re-doing it in their own image as if they were some kind of God?

So that means originality will be replaced by re-imaging and the earth will split itself in two and I will be forced to live in a quasi-Metroid-like world filled with dark matter all because someone didn't like the pacing of Two Moon Junction.

Kill me now

Gladly . . . just as soon as I figure out how to take both of us out in the process.