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Title: What recent cancellations have pissed you off?
Post by: ShadowDog on April 05, 2008, 09:42:21 PM
The Wayans brothers said it best: "TV shows don't cause violence, CANCELLING TV shows causes violence!"

Here are some recent cancellations that have really pissed me off.

Journeyman

Jericho

Sarah Conner Chronicles

Bionic Woman (this is the only one that makes sense though because apparently there were a lot of behind the scenes issues dooming the show)
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Post by: Nick on April 05, 2008, 10:08:20 PM
http://origin.mercurynews.com/columns/ci_8600364?nclick_check=1 (http://origin.mercurynews.com/columns/ci_8600364?nclick_check=1)

Could you post your source for your info on the Terminator cancellation? Last I heard it was on the verge of being renewed.

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Fox is on the verge of renewing "Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles"
From article above.
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Post by: Minnesota on April 05, 2008, 11:33:54 PM
Yeah, any sort of link would be helpful. I'm curious if the Caveman TV show got renewed. It was surprisingly hilarious (not even kidding).
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Post by: bratpop on April 06, 2008, 01:06:30 AM
Journeyman was better than Jesus. Fuck you, TV. Hey, let's just cancel every show Moon Bloodgood is in! Maybe she'll commit suicide! Won't that be funny!
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Post by: mrbasehart on April 06, 2008, 06:48:57 AM
I'll be annoyed if Scrubs isn't given a proper send off.
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Post by: BBQ Platypus on April 06, 2008, 12:30:48 PM
http://origin.mercurynews.com/columns/ci_8600364?nclick_check=1 (http://origin.mercurynews.com/columns/ci_8600364?nclick_check=1)

Could you post your source for your info on the Terminator cancellation? Last I heard it was on the verge of being renewed.

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Fox is on the verge of renewing "Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles"
From article above.

That's what I heard, too.
Title: Re: What recent cancellations have pissed you off?
Post by: ShadowDog on April 07, 2008, 01:22:27 AM
It was some kind of a gossip/spoiler website.  There are a million of them out there.  I'll see if I can retrace my steps and find the article.  It's not official but this gossip ho ran into the dude who plays John at a party and the inside story was that they're cancelled.  So take it with a grain of salt.  I sure hope I'm wrong because I love that show and I think they got shafted by the writer's strike.  I think a proper season finale would have helped a lot.

As far as Moon goes, I'd forgotten about her being in that repeating day series last year.  Yeah, that cancellation really pissed me off too.  Grrrr.
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Post by: Courtney on April 07, 2008, 07:06:18 AM
Anyone hear anything about Carpoolers?  The show itself was pretty lackluster, but the son Marmaduke is one of the funniest characters I've ever seen in a sitcom.
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Post by: a pretty girl is like on April 07, 2008, 07:24:48 AM
Anyone hear anything about Carpoolers?  The show itself was pretty lackluster, but the son Marmaduke is one of the funniest characters I've ever seen in a sitcom.

According to the NY Times tv blog, Carpoolers is unlikely to return.  And one tabloid site I've seen has it officially cancelled.

Also I really liked Journeyman.  Those poor UK actors work so hard on their American accents but they just can't get the hang of  nineteen.  For some reason, that's a tough word for them to say.
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Post by: Compound on April 07, 2008, 08:27:48 AM
I'll be annoyed if Scrubs isn't given a proper send off.

Most of the TV gossip I've seen says that Scrubs will be jumping from NBC to ABC next season.
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Post by: Courtney on April 07, 2008, 09:51:35 AM
I don't believe CBS has said one way or another yet, but if How I Met Your Mother is cancelled this season, I'll be VERY upset.  Hopefully the numbers stayed relatively high after the Britney appearance and they'll give it one more.
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Post by: jewishcarpenter on April 07, 2008, 10:25:16 AM
Not recent, but I'm still butthurt about Arrested Development and Eerie, Indiana being canceled.
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Post by: mrbasehart on April 07, 2008, 10:29:36 AM
Wonderfalls.
Title: Re: What recent cancellations have pissed you off?
Post by: Courtney on April 07, 2008, 10:47:26 AM
Arrested Development.

I'll never get over that.  Or Firefly.
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Post by: a pretty girl is like on April 07, 2008, 10:52:50 AM
Not recent, but I'm still butthurt about Arrested Development and Eerie, Indiana being canceled.

Hell, if we're going in this direction, I'm still sore about losing VR5.
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Post by: esoobaC .T bocaJ on April 07, 2008, 10:54:24 AM
I miss Invader Zim, Megas XLR, and other third great cartoon show
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Post by: mrbasehart on April 07, 2008, 11:03:31 AM
Arrested Development.

I'll never get over that.  Or Firefly.

I can sort of accept Arrested Development being cancelled, as it had a few years under its belt.  Firefly and Wonderfalls lasted about 3 episodes.  Clerks: The Animated Series, too.
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Post by: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on April 07, 2008, 11:06:21 AM
Recent?

I haven't gotten really into a show since MST3K....and I wasn't in a hurry to get attached to that after what happened to "Max Headroom: 20 Minutes Into the Future"
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Post by: bratpop on April 07, 2008, 11:13:55 AM
The two stupidest cancellations had to be Drive and Daybreak. Daybreak said... quite pointedly, that the show would be on for exactly 13 stupendous episodes. That's all they had to do. Not 24, not five seasons, 13 episodes. Then for NO REASON, they flat out cancelled the show during winter hiatus so they could put on two new sitcoms which failed miserably. Moon went on to star immediately thereafter in Journeyman, the lead went on to some doctor show which is probably also cancelled now, and Adam Baldwin went on to Chuck, which has a chance only because it's on NBC. The demand for these actors should prove what merit the show had, even if you didn't watch it. And if you did, you'd know it kicked major ass. It was like Groundhog Day meets The Bourne Identity. BEAT THAT IDEA, you can't. Not if you work in tinsel town.

Drive wasn't as good, but it was a rather unique event. And it was marketed for a very long time on Fox as a big event. To the point that I had forgotten about it over the summer. So of course, they didn't have to produce 24 episodes, or five seasons, just a short exciting maxi/mini-series. And stupidly, they debuted it like 24, one episode on Sunday, one on Monday. They did the same thing with Terminator. I don't know why they hell they do that. Possibly as a result, they didn't get the highest ratings in television history (which is the only thing they ever accept), so they cancelled it the following week. And do they ever put anything better on in its place? No, never.

Honorable mention must go to Joan of Arcadia. CBS, the ugly redheaded stepchild of television, actually had a hit show on their hands. It danced the line between fantasy and believable drama. It dealt with God without apparently offending anyone. And it wasn't so incredibly sappy that it made you vomit with its borderline afterschool special mentality mixed with teen drama and family drama formulas. This show intentionally tried to make me cry at the end of each episode, usually by making the characters cry, and sometimes it worked. I've rarely if ever been moved by a TV show, but I was shocked and outraged when they killed off Joan's new best friend that she met in the loony bin. I figured the show would be cancelled immediately, but then surprisingly it was successful, and got a second season. They ended that with the Rolling Stones' "Sympathy For The Devil" and the introduction of a character on the wrong side of the spiritual fence, who was burning down churches. But ah fuck it, it's not like CBS needed a hit show, or to give a hit show a proper ending. Cancelled.

I need not mention The Flash, but I will mention Tremors, which was one of the best movie adaptations ever and even had one of the key actors returning. And they showed nipples once. No reason to cancel it and keep formulaic unoriginal Star Trek ripoffs on the air.

Also, Dr. Katz got shafted, probably by the same executive bitch who cancelled MST3k (and moreso for me because I didn't get the Sci-Fi Channel till years later). They showed an entire season on Christmas Eve, really late when everyone was sleeping, and there were a bunch of unaired episodes from a whole other season. Bullshit.
Title: Re: What recent cancellations have pissed you off?
Post by: bratpop on April 07, 2008, 11:24:23 AM
But wait, there's more. Nearly every show with a sci-fi/horror or fantasy bent gets canned very quickly. This is the kind of stuff we NEED to see. The kind of stuff that kept people going before most of us were born. The Twilight Zone, The Outer Limits, and cheesier fare like Lost In Space, even I Dream of Genie and Bewitched though they be comedies.

Strange Luck, a great show about a guy with unpredictable good or bad luck, who played and won the lottery every day just so he could get enough to buy coffee. Ended with a Cliffhanger. CANNED.

Brimstone, the precursor to Reaper, with a grizzled betrenchcoated bounty hunter working for the ever brilliant John Glover as the Devil. CANNED. Oh, by the way... Reaper - also canned.

John Doe, about a guy who had amnesia but knew any skills or knowledge that he could think about without knowing why, and many a MacGuyver style solution to be found, but more cool. Ended with a cliffhanger, surprise. CANNED.

Veritas, about a squad of people investigating the religious side of weird goings-on ALA the X-Files. CANNED.

That other show whose name I can't remember which was sort of an Indiana Jones deal with another squad of people investigating even weirder things like holes in Antarctica full of strange artifacts. It was on right after Veritas, for a handful of episodes. I heard they put some unaired ones on DVD. Whatever, CANNED.

The New Twilight Zone, which had the potential for decent directors and actors like the 80s version but never quite got around to it. Still good for a laugh every week if nothing else. CANNED.

I'm sure there's more I can't think of right now.
Title: Re: What recent cancellations have pissed you off?
Post by: jewishcarpenter on April 07, 2008, 11:50:03 AM
I need not mention The Flash, but I will mention Tremors, which was one of the best movie adaptations ever and even had one of the key actors returning. And they showed nipples once. No reason to cancel it and keep formulaic unoriginal Star Trek ripoffs on the air.
I had to laugh very loudly after I reading that, not just because it's ridiculous but because it's also a good selling point for me.
Title: Re: What recent cancellations have pissed you off?
Post by: mrbasehart on April 07, 2008, 11:52:14 AM
Star Gate: SG1's pilot had nipples in it.  Apparently the show was originally going to go to Showtime or something.
Title: Re: What recent cancellations have pissed you off?
Post by: bratpop on April 07, 2008, 11:53:12 AM
Highlander as well.
Title: Re: What recent cancellations have pissed you off?
Post by: mrbasehart on April 07, 2008, 11:56:23 AM
Was the Highlander series any good? I never got around to watching it.
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Post by: TeamRAD on April 07, 2008, 06:54:16 PM
Drive wasn't as good, but it was a rather unique event.

They did manage to pound the exposition in quite well...

It's an illegal, cross-country road race.

That was an ongoing joke for a while when levity was ever needed.

The only cancellation I was ever perturbed about was Angel.

Title: Re: What recent cancellations have pissed you off?
Post by: ShadowDog on April 07, 2008, 09:09:00 PM
Yeah, Daybreak, that was the name of the series I couldn't remember.  That pissed me off.

Going a little further back, Special Unit 2 was a great and very funny series that barely lasted a season and a half.  As soon as it really started getting cool with the actor who played Q showing up as a recurring villain they cancelled it.

This was a timely post because today's USAToday had a big article clarifying which shows are definitely cancelled, which ones are definitely coming back, and which ones are on the bubble.  There's even a poll that might affect networks decisions.  Here's the link:

http://www.usatoday.com/life/television/news/2008-04-06-save-our-shows-main_N.htm

According to them, there are 11 series on the bubble right now: Boston Legal, Eli Stone, Women's Murder Club, Moonlight, The New Adventures of Old Christine, Rules of Engagement, Shark, The Unit, Back to You, Terminator: Sarah Connor Chronicles, and Reaper.

This is good news for me personally because as I said at the top I thought Terminator was already gone.  I didn't have high hopes for Moonlight or Reaper either and they could still come back.  Sweet.
Title: Re: What recent cancellations have pissed you off?
Post by: mrbasehart on April 08, 2008, 05:20:47 AM
Oh man, Aliens in America and New Amsterdam are cancelled? I quite liked both.
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Post by: esoobaC .T bocaJ on April 08, 2008, 05:30:07 AM
what?! Shark, Back to You, the Terminator show, Reaper, the CSIs, 30 rock (that's about it)............... Curse this bubble!!!!!!!! :grr:
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Post by: bratpop on April 08, 2008, 06:24:42 AM
Uh... has New Amsterdam even aired yet?
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Post by: ebeth on April 08, 2008, 07:58:36 AM
Canceled shows that have irked me throughout my life: (in no particular order)

1. Doctor Doctor starring Matt Frewer
2. The Marshall Chronicles: high school comedy not lamed out with a laugh track (mid 80's)
3. Drive
4. Life
5.Arrested Development
6. Wonderfalls
7. Firefly
8. Rude Awakening (Sherlyn Fenn as a recovering alcoholic)
9.Young Indiana Jones Chronicles
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Post by: mrbasehart on April 08, 2008, 08:05:32 AM
Canceled shows that have irked me throughout my life: (in no particular order)

4. Life

If you mean the recent series with Damian Lewis and Sarah Shahi, then I have some good news, the series was renewed along with Chuck and Heroes a couple of months ago.
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Post by: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on April 08, 2008, 11:14:38 AM
Canceled shows that have irked me throughout my life: (in no particular order)

1. Doctor Doctor starring Matt Frewer
I loved this, too.

What ticks me off most (besides losing all the Beta tapes I had of this show) is that they don't show it in syndication.  Once on Lifetime I think when I didn't have cable but that was it.

Someone put a couple episodes on YouTube but that's all...

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Post by: gbeenie on April 08, 2008, 11:26:25 AM
Canceled shows that have irked me throughout my life: (in no particular order)

1. Doctor Doctor starring Matt Frewer


Poor Matt Frewer. They could never come up with an appropriate sitcom vehicle to capture his inherent awesomeness. As I recall, the more "domestic" show he had on Fox after Doctor Doctor was gone was even less suited to him.
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Post by: gammer on April 08, 2008, 11:39:11 AM
Matt Frewer...
that guy is really into hockey. He lives outside of Ottawa, Ontario and I played pick up against him a couple times when I was living in Ottawa.
Title: Re: What recent cancellations have pissed you off?
Post by: bratpop on April 08, 2008, 11:56:55 AM
That was a pretty good sitcom. He should just play that guy from The Stand in a series.
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Post by: gbeenie on April 08, 2008, 12:09:42 PM
"Gonna put ya in the nut hatch up in Terre Haute, Trash!"
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Post by: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on April 08, 2008, 03:10:59 PM
Canceled shows that have irked me throughout my life: (in no particular order)

1. Doctor Doctor starring Matt Frewer


Poor Matt Frewer. They could never come up with an appropriate sitcom vehicle to capture his inherent awesomeness. As I recall, the more "domestic" show he had on Fox after Doctor Doctor was gone was even less suited to him.
"Shaky Ground".....  Yeah, the only really outstanding thing about that was a young Jennifer Love Hewitt as his daughter.  And these vailed jokes about a tickling fetish....

And as for his being into hockey...his dad was a Toronto Maple Leaf.  And he would have gone Pro if not for a knee injury.
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Post by: ShadowDog on April 08, 2008, 10:46:36 PM
Uh... has New Amsterdam even aired yet?

Yeah.  I've been watching it and it's okay, but it's missing something.  I enjoy watching it but I won't miss it if it goes away.
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Post by: FordPrefect on April 08, 2008, 11:46:50 PM
How recent are we talking here? In no particular order, not including MST3K...

Wonderfalls: Fox produces 13 episodes and they only air 4? Then they replace it with "The Swan"!?!  >:(
The Lone Gunman: I actually liked this show better than The X-Files. I relate to those guys more than Mulder or Scully. I really hate it when shows get cancelled on cliffhangers.
Invader Zim: It would have been nice if Nick kept their word and let the crew make 20 episodes for Season Two instead of seven.  ::)
Dilbert: This probably would have done better if it wasn't on UPN. On second thought, Fox would have killed it too. Ok, so UPN and Fox then.
Early Edition: I would have liked to have seen one more season of this.
Now and Again: Anybody else remember this show? There was a show on around the same time called "Once and Again". I think that confused people. CBS cancelled it and the show ended on a cliffhanger.  >:(
Futurama: I know it's back, but the cancellation still ticks me off.
Dead Like Me: I haven't seen most of the episodes yet, but it looks good from what I've seen.
ALF: Hey, it happened in my lifetime. That's kind of recent. Did I mention how much I hate it when shows end on cliffhangers?

I'm probably forgetting a few. Most of the shows I like are no longer in production, except for Monk and Psych.
Title: Re: What recent cancellations have pissed you off?
Post by: Doctor Who? on April 09, 2008, 05:46:31 AM
Darkplace.

It only got one season.

I need more!
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Post by: a pretty girl is like on April 09, 2008, 06:54:59 AM
American Gothic.

I miss me my Sheriff Buck.  That's Buck with a B.
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Post by: Gil on April 09, 2008, 09:21:52 AM


Threshold

Global Frequency

Nowhere Man

The Dead Zone

Enterprise (when it was really getting good, finally)

Stargate SG-1

24 (really a pity, that show had some great moments)

Futurama (coming back?)

Carnivale

Deadwood

Kindred: The Embraced

The 4400

Life on Mars

Title: Re: What recent cancellations have pissed you off?
Post by: bratpop on April 09, 2008, 10:46:47 AM
Just when Lucas finally forced Star TREK to rip off Star WARS, they CANCEL it. Damn, we were winning! I thought the show was great. I don't get the Fox/UPN mentality that it has to get better ratings than Jesus in a threesome with the Olsen twins.
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Post by: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on April 09, 2008, 11:40:24 AM
24 (really a pity, that show had some great moments)

24 isn't cancelled.   Just had to wait for the Writer's Strike.

I concur on Carnivale....that died too soon.

And there was a UPN show that Kevin Williamson (Scream) did called Glory Days (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0281445/) that didn't last long enough.   Besides, you got the feeling that Williamson wanted it to be much scarier but the network made them cut that...or they just plain oversold that aspect and people were disappointed.
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Post by: gbeenie on April 09, 2008, 12:16:14 PM

Dead Like Me: I haven't seen most of the episodes yet, but it looks good from what I've seen.


Dead Like Me was phenomenal. Its cancellation particularly rankles, as it had nothing to do with ratings.
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Post by: ShadowDog on April 09, 2008, 03:20:14 PM
What did it have to do with if not ratings?  The subject matter?  I ask because this one really pissed me off.
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Post by: mrbasehart on April 09, 2008, 03:23:39 PM
What did it have to do with if not ratings?  The subject matter?  I ask because this one really pissed me off.

Here ya go:

http://www.multichannel.com/blog/1300000330/post/1410012741.html
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Post by: ShadowDog on April 09, 2008, 03:33:27 PM
Wow, that's eye opening!  Thanks a lot for the link, this was all under my radar.  This article also raises a question.  Exactly how much swearing are we allowed to do on these forums?  I ask because that article makes me want to break out my "go straight to hell, do not pass Go" swear words.
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Post by: bratpop on April 09, 2008, 10:31:20 PM
You can say fuck and cock, but not d*mn or h*ck.

I'm kidding. There's a filter so anyone can set what they want to see. And I think the people with the filter turned on just saw puppies and daisies. Now I'm jealous.
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Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on April 09, 2008, 11:41:33 PM
Glad to see Wonderfalls on several peoples lists, I'll never understand how they can have so many shows finished and not even give it a chance, at least air the things and see how the ratings go, it's not like they had anything better to put on...  At least they are all on the DVD box set.  Same with the show Dinosours, I think there were 4 or 6 unaired shows, also now available on DVD, although that show was hit or miss, some episodes hilarious and some with not many laughs.

The way Futurama was kicked around and then cancelled was a crime, at least we've got 3 more movies and the possibility of more.

Someone mentioned SG1 pilot being more mature, wasn't the entire first season on Showtime?  That's one I'm not sorry it got taken off, it was running out of steam the last several seasons, the DVD movies are a good way to go, hope they can do a few a year, the first one was better than most of the episodes in the last several years.

One that I haven't see mentioned here is Brisco County Junior, that was a great show that could have gone on much longer.

I think 3rd Rock From the Sun could have gone one more year, it was still pretty funny when it was axed...

I agree with Enterprise just getting good when it was pulled, except for the extreemly lame last episode the last season was great.

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Post by: BBQ Platypus on April 10, 2008, 11:49:01 PM
One word:  Stella.  Dear God, why did they have to cancel that hilarious, HILARIOUS show? :angry:

Quote
Michael Ian Black: (wearing a yellow raincoat) I'm dressed for rain!
David: (wearing mountain climbing gear) I'm dressed for snow!
Michael Showalter: (wearing bondage gear) I'm also wearing a ridiculous costume!

Worst of all, they replaced it with Mind of Mencia. :grr:
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Post by: Edward J Grug III on April 10, 2008, 11:56:44 PM
One word:  Stella.  Dear God, why did they have to cancel that hilarious, HILARIOUS show? :angry:

Quote
Michael Ian Black: (wearing a yellow raincoat) I'm dressed for rain!
David: (wearing mountain climbing gear) I'm dressed for snow!
Michael Showalter: (wearing bondage gear) I'm also wearing a ridiculous costume!

Worst of all, they replaced it with Mind of Mencia. :grr:

Amen!

My girlfriend and I just rewatched the series this week. I hope the three of them get together on a new project that's of the same quality.

Their recent movie projects have been OK at best.
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Post by: SpaceToast on April 15, 2008, 09:05:36 AM
I miss Invader Zim, Megas XLR, and other third great cartoon show

And Samurai Jack.  I cracked up when I saw Eerie Indiana as a missed show, I can't believe you remember that.  How about Mad Cats and Street Sharks?
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Post by: bratpop on April 15, 2008, 10:25:32 AM
And Street Hawk and Automan!
Title: Re: What recent cancellations have pissed you off?
Post by: ShadowDog on April 15, 2008, 12:47:41 PM
Going way WAY back, I'm still pissed that Herman's Head got cancelled.  Bastards.

You can say fuck and cock, but not d*mn or h*ck..

WOO HOO!!!!  <sets filter to Chris Rock level>
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Post by: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on April 22, 2008, 01:23:40 PM
I know a lot of people were pissed that this (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000SMNL92/dvdtalk) was cancelled.....

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51FNO3HUq-L._SS500_.jpg)

Well, good news....it's coming out on July 15th.
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Post by: mrbasehart on April 22, 2008, 01:35:23 PM
Was BoP any good? I liked the comic series...
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Post by: ShadowDog on April 22, 2008, 01:44:35 PM
Yeah, I never watched it either.  I might have to rent it.
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Post by: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on April 22, 2008, 01:58:52 PM
To be honest, I didn't watch it either....

But I remember when it was on and then cancelled (judging by what I read on the MST3K Discussion Board and the TrekBBS) there was a great gnashing of teeth across the country about this not getting a fair chance....
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Post by: bratpop on April 22, 2008, 02:09:35 PM
I have a feeling the people who were pissed it was cancelled didn't watch it either.
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Post by: gbeenie on April 22, 2008, 02:57:48 PM
Was BoP any good? I liked the comic series...

I wish I could say it was. Birds of Prey was trying mightily to emulate the success of Smallville, to no effect whatsoever. They made the Huntress a metahuman with no weapons, and they made Dinah Lance NOT be Black Canary, but rather the daughter of the actual Black Canary (called Caroline Lance in this version). Worse, they wanted to be able to use footage from Batman Returns to save money on the flashback sequences, so they locked themselves into that design for Batman (who only appears in flashback sequences; the series is set seven years after Batman's last known appearance), and into the whole Catwoman = blonde thing (don't worry; she only appears in flashback, too). Also, metahumans are considered a sort of persecuted "invisible" minority, a la Marvel's mutants, and Batman isn't known by the current citizens of New Gotham (don't ask), even as a myth.

The concept might have worked, but the show just never had particularly good writing.
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Post by: mrbasehart on April 22, 2008, 03:49:58 PM
Was BoP any good? I liked the comic series...

I wish I could say it was. Birds of Prey was trying mightily to emulate the success of Smallville, to no effect whatsoever.

Huh.  Here's where it loses me completely.   :)
Title: Re: What recent cancellations have pissed you off?
Post by: ShadowDog on April 22, 2008, 05:47:06 PM
Having read the above it sounds like a real trainwreck to me.
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Post by: Compound on April 22, 2008, 06:13:52 PM
I'll disagree a bit with GB here. The series was kinda so-so, and the changes made that took it away from the comic's premise weren't terribly sensible but the show was getting better, in my opinion. It just ran out of time. (And seriously, WB, you had nothing to replace it with once it was off the air. I think it got replaced with some of their generic sitcoms.)  But, since I still have the VHS tapes that I taped off the air, I'll be picking it up. (I still have a bootleg of the pilot as well. I think. It never really played well even when it was new.)

On the bright side though, the much better critically received Freakazoid comes out on DVD on the 29th, a mere 2 weeks after BoP.
(http://www.tvshowsondvd.net/graphics/news3/FreakazoidS1.jpg)

Hey, Freakazoid, want to go to the international honey festival?
Title: Re: What recent cancellations have pissed you off?
Post by: BBQ Platypus on April 22, 2008, 06:39:28 PM
Hey, Freakazoid, want to go to the international honey festival?

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Title: Re: What recent cancellations have pissed you off?
Post by: gbeenie on April 22, 2008, 10:08:19 PM
Was BoP any good? I liked the comic series...

I wish I could say it was. Birds of Prey was trying mightily to emulate the success of Smallville, to no effect whatsoever.

Huh.  Here's where it loses me completely.   :)

Don't be bitchy, dear. For better or worse, Smallville is in the home stretch of its seventh season, and it's already been renewed for an eighth (I can hear James of Linhood's teeth grinding from here).
Title: Re: What recent cancellations have pissed you off?
Post by: gbeenie on April 22, 2008, 10:43:25 PM
I'll disagree a bit with GB here. The series was kinda so-so, and the changes made that took it away from the comic's premise weren't terribly sensible but the show was getting better, in my opinion. It just ran out of time. (And seriously, WB, you had nothing to replace it with once it was off the air. I think it got replaced with some of their generic sitcoms.) 

I think its main problem was that it started off with a concept, without a strong idea as to a direction.

On the bright side though, the much better critically received Freakazoid comes out on DVD on the 29th, a mere 2 weeks after BoP.
(http://www.tvshowsondvd.net/graphics/news3/FreakazoidS1.jpg)

Hey, Freakazoid, want to go to the international honey festival?

Do I? Yes! Yes! YES!


(I've been watching these on my hard drive the last couple weeks)
Title: Re: What recent cancellations have pissed you off?
Post by: mrbasehart on April 23, 2008, 05:22:15 AM
Was BoP any good? I liked the comic series...

I wish I could say it was. Birds of Prey was trying mightily to emulate the success of Smallville, to no effect whatsoever.

Huh.  Here's where it loses me completely.   :)

Don't be bitchy, dear. For better or worse, Smallville is in the home stretch of its seventh season, and it's already been renewed for an eighth (I can hear James of Linhood's teeth grinding from here).

Heh.  The show really doesn't bother me anymore, as I don't watch it.  I find it kinda funny that Tom Welling as college-age Clark is about 5 years older than Dean Cain was when he debuted as adult Clark though.  :)
Title: Re: What recent cancellations have pissed you off?
Post by: Compound on April 23, 2008, 05:47:23 PM

Hey, Freakazoid, want to go to the international honey festival?

Do I? Yes! Yes! YES!


(I've been watching these on my hard drive the last couple weeks)

I've been avoiding rewatching them, so that when I do pick up the set, I can watch them almost as if they're new again.
Title: Re: What recent cancellations have pissed you off?
Post by: BathTub on April 25, 2008, 06:04:33 PM
the whole 'Batman who?' thing was probably the weirdest part of BoP, I watched it, it was ok.
Title: Re: What recent cancellations have pissed you off?
Post by: gbeenie on April 28, 2008, 02:14:04 PM
Was BoP any good? I liked the comic series...

I wish I could say it was. Birds of Prey was trying mightily to emulate the success of Smallville, to no effect whatsoever.

Huh.  Here's where it loses me completely.   :)

Don't be bitchy, dear. For better or worse, Smallville is in the home stretch of its seventh season, and it's already been renewed for an eighth (I can hear James of Linhood's teeth grinding from here).

Heh.  The show really doesn't bother me anymore, as I don't watch it.  I find it kinda funny that Tom Welling as college-age Clark is about 5 years older than Dean Cain was when he debuted as adult Clark though.  :)

Yeah; he is older than Brandon Routh, too. And Michael Rosenbaum, who plays Lex, is pushing 35.
Title: Re: What recent cancellations have pissed you off?
Post by: bratpop on April 28, 2008, 02:28:23 PM
WTF? A Lex Luthor over 30? Well that's just stupid. I'm never watching Smallville again!
Title: Re: What recent cancellations have pissed you off?
Post by: gbeenie on April 28, 2008, 04:57:19 PM
I think you're missing the point. Tom Welling is over thirty. The actors who play his friends clock in at twenty-six and up. They're playing characters who are barely twenty. When you figure in Michael Rosenbaum, who's playing a character in his mid-late twenties, the message is clear: if they've got a point with the story they're telling, the show's creators had better hurry the hell up and get to it (seriously; they're seven seasons in, and Clark still can't fly?).
Title: Re: What recent cancellations have pissed you off?
Post by: mrbasehart on April 28, 2008, 05:13:21 PM
I think you're missing the point. Tom Welling is over thirty. The actors who play his friends clock in at twenty-six and up. They're playing characters who are barely twenty. When you figure in Michael Rosenbaum, who's playing a character in his mid-late twenties, the message is clear: if they've got a point with the story they're telling, the show's creators had better hurry the hell up and get to it (seriously; they're seven seasons in, and Clark still can't fly?).

Wasn't the show's coda something like, "No flights, no tights"?

Meh, for all of its faults, I still quite like The Adventures of Lois and Clark.
Title: Re: What recent cancellations have pissed you off?
Post by: gbeenie on April 28, 2008, 05:31:20 PM
I think you're missing the point. Tom Welling is over thirty. The actors who play his friends clock in at twenty-six and up. They're playing characters who are barely twenty. When you figure in Michael Rosenbaum, who's playing a character in his mid-late twenties, the message is clear: if they've got a point with the story they're telling, the show's creators had better hurry the hell up and get to it (seriously; they're seven seasons in, and Clark still can't fly?).

Wasn't the show's coda something like, "No flights, no tights"?


Exactly, and the storyline is now butting up against that restriction. Hard. At some point, the show has to stop trying to hang on to the original premise of "the wacky adventures of Clark Kent in Smallville," and start showing, more concretely, the path that leads to him becoming Superman.

Meh, for all of its faults, I still quite like The Adventures of Lois and Clark.

Lois and Clark was the first time I warmed up to the post-Crisis idea of Clark's parents remaining alive into his adulthood.
Title: Re: What recent cancellations have pissed you off?
Post by: mrbasehart on April 28, 2008, 05:59:05 PM
The problem I have with Smallville is that Tom Welling really doesn't convince as someone who could become Superman.  Hell, he barely convinces as Clark.  :)

Title: Re: What recent cancellations have pissed you off?
Post by: bratpop on April 28, 2008, 06:42:51 PM
(seriously; they're seven seasons in, and Clark still can't fly?).
I've been watching for seven years, and I still can't fly. What's your point? :P
Title: Re: What recent cancellations have pissed you off?
Post by: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on April 29, 2008, 01:14:16 PM
I find it kinda funny that Tom Welling as college-age Clark is about 5 years older than Dean Cain was when he debuted as adult Clark though.  :)
Yeah; he is older than Brandon Routh, too. And Michael Rosenbaum, who plays Lex, is pushing 35.

But they're still gorgeous, so who cares?   ;)
Title: Re: What recent cancellations have pissed you off?
Post by: esoobaC .T bocaJ on May 02, 2008, 02:31:55 PM
You guys don't have a thread for it, so..................
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The CW confirmed that "Smallville" star Michael Rosenbaum (Lex Luthor) will indeed be leaving the show as a regular cast member at the end of the current season. New villains will replace Luthor in the upcoming eighth season: Doomsday and an as-yet-unidentified female baddie. Producers also left the door open for Rosenbaum to return in a guest spot.

For his part, Rosenbaum issued a letter to fans thanking them for their support over the years. "Well, it's been seven wonderful years," he wrote. "Your support is what has made Smallville so successful, and I appreciate you all more than you know. That being said, it is time for me to start the next chapter of my life and career. I hope that I gave you some enjoyment over the years, and that you found my portrayal of Lex Luthor to be satisfying. I am truly grateful, as Smallville fans are the best fans out there. I sincerely hope that you will continue to follow my career through my hair growth period and beyond."

As for the new villains? Here's how The CW described them:

"In season eight, Clark [Tom Welling] will face his ultimate challenge with the appearance of the legendary, unstoppable destroyer Doomsday, who appears on Smallville for the first time. As comic-book fans know, Doomsday is notorious for being the only character in the DC Comics universe to have killed Superman."

The network added: "Doomsday won't be Clark's only nemesis in the upcoming season. The executive producers are tight-lipped about a new female villain they will be introducing, but they can say she will be familiar to many fans and will set her sights on Clark in ways Lex never could. Intelligent, brilliantly manipulative and dangerously sinister, our gorgeous new villain has one more weapon in her arsenal: Her mutual attraction with Clark may prove to be as deadly as kryptonite for him."

Rosenbaum's departure isn't the only one from the longstanding series: Show creators Alfred Gough and Miles Millar previously announced that the current seventh season would be their last, and Kristin Kreuk (Lana Lang) will reduce her appearances in season eight. "Smallville" airs Thursdays at 8 p.m. ET/PT.

Source: CW, Sci-Fi Wire
Title: Re: What recent cancellations have pissed you off?
Post by: ShadowDog on May 02, 2008, 09:30:16 PM
Interesting news all around.  Thank GOD Lana is leaving!  I never though I'd see the day!
Title: Re: What recent cancellations have pissed you off?
Post by: almightyspaz on May 28, 2008, 10:01:24 AM
New Amsterdam was kind of a surprised, but I'm still angry over Angel being canceled almost four years ago.
Title: Re: What recent cancellations have pissed you off?
Post by: ShadowDog on May 28, 2008, 10:23:20 AM
No doubt.  But, are you a comic book fan?  Joss Whedon is involved with the Season 6 comic book series currently in production.  Not as heavily involved with the writing as he is with the Buffy Season 8 but if is involved and has approved the stories.  It starts up right after the end of Season 5 and we get to find out what happened to everyone.  There are a lot of surprises and it's been giving me some closure on that series as well as being a fun read.
Title: Re: What recent cancellations have pissed you off?
Post by: esoobaC .T bocaJ on May 28, 2008, 10:25:46 AM
I'm kinda disappointed Back to You was cancelled, but that does give Fred Willard more time to record another Rifftrax,  ;D
Title: Re: What recent cancellations have pissed you off?
Post by: mrbasehart on May 28, 2008, 10:27:29 AM
I thought that with the people involved, Back to You was a waste of talent.
Title: Re: What recent cancellations have pissed you off?
Post by: esoobaC .T bocaJ on May 28, 2008, 10:30:01 AM
yeah, oh well, at least Reaper got a renewed :)
Title: Re: What recent cancellations have pissed you off?
Post by: DarthChimay on May 28, 2008, 06:56:36 PM
No doubt.  But, are you a comic book fan?  Joss Whedon is involved with the Season 6 comic book series currently in production.  Not as heavily involved with the writing as he is with the Buffy Season 8 but if is involved and has approved the stories.  It starts up right after the end of Season 5 and we get to find out what happened to everyone.  There are a lot of surprises and it's been giving me some closure on that series as well as being a fun read.

Tee-hee.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Just makes me feel tingly all over in one place.