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Title: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: Pak-Man on November 08, 2006, 07:10:31 PM
I thought there were some absolute highly regarded movies out there, but every movie I thought was universally accepted has been served on these boards. I'm just wondering if we can all agree on a movie being good. Let's start with the classic, "Citizen Kane." Anyone have anything ill to say about the movie?
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: torgosPizza on November 08, 2006, 07:37:11 PM
Yeah, I have something to say. It's more like... Citizen LAME!

Okay just kidding, I have actually never seen it, but I have heard nothing but good things about it. Maybe I should add it to my blockbuster queue.
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: kodiakthejuggler on November 08, 2006, 08:00:07 PM
I've only seen it once, and that was earlier this year.

I have nothing ill to say about it, because it mezmerized me. It is such a complex film, full of powerful story, incredible acting, and made with such amazing technique that it is still studied today.


BUT......


I'm sure there are plenty of people out there who don't like it. Please tell us if you don't like it, and tell us why. And please, back up your answer with a valid argument, if you don't mind.  ;)
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: mrbasehart on November 08, 2006, 08:52:35 PM
Citizen Kane is pretty darn good.  It's not just a good film though.  It invented new techniques and ways of defining mood AND it gave birth to another star director, Robert Wise.

It's nowhere near my favourite list though.   ;D
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: Sharktopus on November 08, 2006, 08:57:29 PM
The only real complaint I have about Citizen Kane doesn't come from the film itself, but I do have trouble watching the movie without being reminded of how eerily Orson Welles' own life came to mirror Charles Foster Kane's to the point of making the film a disturbingly prescient melding of William Randolph Hearst and Welles himself. Talk about an actor inhabiting a character.

I'm too lazy to look it up. What did Robert Wise have to do with Kane?
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: Variety of Cells on November 08, 2006, 09:29:21 PM
Citizen Kane is good. 

I suspect there is little hate for Monty Python films as well.  Or at least I hope.  Haven't heard any anyway. 

Though if this were a bet, I'd place all my chips on Eyes Wide Shut.  Everyone loves that film.
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: Sharktopus on November 08, 2006, 09:35:21 PM
Citizen Kane is good. 

I suspect there is little hate for Monty Python films as well.  Or at least I hope.  Haven't heard any anyway.


Anyone who doesn't like Monty Python gets banned immediately. I think we can agree on that.

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Though if this were a bet, I'd place all my chips on Eyes Wide Shut.  Everyone loves that film.

Indeed. I'd wager that everyone here has very strong feelings about the cinematic spectacle that was Eyes Wide Shut.
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: Justin on November 08, 2006, 10:23:08 PM
Le Notti di Cabiria

I'm sure we all have the same Giulietta Masina poster.
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: Sharktopus on November 08, 2006, 10:24:31 PM
From out of left field: Does anybody not like Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure? Seriously.
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: daltysmilth on November 08, 2006, 10:56:24 PM
How about Casablanca?  I kinda liked it better than Citizen Kane.  Bogart's seething intensity... man.  No other actor can do what Bogart could do. 

Although I have to admit being slightly disturbed by Casablanca, because I saw Bells of St. Mary's long before I ever saw Casablanca, and seeing Ingrid Bergman out of her nun outfit was kinda weird.  Though it wasn't quite as disturbing as seeing Olivia Hussey in Romeo and Juliet after having grown up with her as the Virgin Mary in Jesus of Nazareth.  But she is still who I always think of as the Mary when I picture her in my head.  I just have to remember to picture Mary's face, as opposed to... other body parts.  I feel unclean just now.
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: Variety of Cells on November 08, 2006, 11:09:11 PM
Casablanca?  That's just a ripoff of Overdrawn at the Memory Bank.  Admittedly it's a much better film, but still, I can never forgive it for stealing shots and characters from such a horrible movie.
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: Pak-Man on November 08, 2006, 11:16:41 PM
From out of left field: Does anybody not like Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure? Seriously.
Nothing but love and fond childhood memories here. :^)
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: Sharktopus on November 08, 2006, 11:23:30 PM
How about Casablanca?  I kinda liked it better than Citizen Kane.  Bogart's seething intensity... man.  No other actor can do what Bogart could do.

My roommate hates Casablanca, and Bogart specifically. Philistine. He interprets what you call seething intensity as hammy overacting, which is weird since my love of hammy overactors has been rubbing off on him. (Must be due to my steady diet of Shatner, West and Heston - the Holy Trinity of Ham, with a splash of Bruce Campbell, of course.)

I love Bogie, myself. I've seen Key Largo far more times than is healthy.
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: Pak-Man on November 08, 2006, 11:34:47 PM
Well you gotta admit it took Hollywood a while to fine tune the art of screen acting Vs. Stage acting. Stage acting is broad, sweeping emotion. Film acting is subtle realistic emotion. :^)
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: Sharktopus on November 08, 2006, 11:40:02 PM
Then there's Keanuacting, where you just stand there, staring into the middle distance, and say your lines with the least possible inflection.
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: Cap'n UKRiffer on November 09, 2006, 04:50:22 AM
Anyone who doesn't like Monty Python gets banned immediately. I think we can agree on that.

Too bloody right! How can you not like at least one of them whether its Holy Grail or Brian... Classic pieces of comedy
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: Dr.Impossible on November 09, 2006, 04:53:50 AM
MST3K the movie is a safe bet, I suspect.
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: mrbasehart on November 09, 2006, 04:56:16 AM
I'm too lazy to look it up. What did Robert Wise have to do with Kane?

He was the editor.

I love Bogie, myself. I've seen Key Largo far more times than is healthy.

Bogart is one of my favourite actors.  The Maltese Falcon, The Big Sleep, To Have and Have Not, In a Lonely Place...all great, great, movies.
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: Dr.Impossible on November 09, 2006, 05:05:19 AM
From out of left field: Does anybody not like Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure? Seriously.

I don't really like it, but I love making reference to it.
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: kodiakthejuggler on November 09, 2006, 06:11:51 AM
Then there's Keanuacting, where you just stand there, staring into the middle distance, and say your lines with the least possible inflection.

Funny, but wrong.

There is plenty of inflection involved in Keanuacting. It's called Southern Californian Surfernacular. Case in point: try saying "Whoa". Sounds boring, right? Now say it in Southern Californian Surfernacular. Very Keanu.  ;)
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: JonnyFrag on November 09, 2006, 07:35:11 AM
MST3K the movie is a safe bet, I suspect.

I think that one gets disqualified though...too easy.


I nominate: Evil Dead 2

any objections?
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: Cap'n UKRiffer on November 09, 2006, 08:12:05 AM

I nominate: Evil Dead 2

any objections?

None from me, Evil Dead 2 rules... we can safefully bet that most people here would be Bruce Campbell fans, he is the B Movie God after all
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: BBQ Platypus on November 09, 2006, 08:14:38 AM

I nominate: Evil Dead 2

any objections?

None from me, Evil Dead 2 rules... we can safefully bet that most people here would be Bruce Campbell fans, he is the B Movie God after all

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Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: Cap'n UKRiffer on November 09, 2006, 08:23:06 AM
If anyone here doesn't like Evil Dead 2...I'LL SWALLOW YOUR SOUL!  I'LL SWALLOW YOUR SOUL!  I'LL SWALLOW YOUR SOUL!  I'LL SWALLOW YOUR SOUL!  I'LL SWALLOW YOUR SOUL! 

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Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: darthvedder81 on November 09, 2006, 09:30:05 AM
I think it's pretty safe to say that everyone in the world loves the movie "Hollow Man".  ;D
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: shortstack on November 09, 2006, 10:13:09 AM
I think it's pretty safe to say that everyone in the world loves the movie "Hollow Man".  ;D

*urge to kill...rising...*
Damn it....I actually paid to see that in theatre, too  :(

As for the other ones....
I've always liked Citizen Kane, but only because I grew up listening to Orsen Welles' War of the Worlds every year, so I love his voice.

I like most things Monty Python...I didn't really like Meaning of Life the first time I saw it, but it's grown on me.


Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: Sharktopus on November 09, 2006, 10:27:23 AM
Then there's Keanuacting, where you just stand there, staring into the middle distance, and say your lines with the least possible inflection.

Funny, but wrong.

There is plenty of inflection involved in Keanuacting. It's called Southern Californian Surfernacular. Case in point: try saying "Whoa". Sounds boring, right? Now say it in Southern Californian Surfernacular. Very Keanu.  ;)

Which is especially odd considering that Keanu is from the suburbs of Toronto. I guess Ted Theodore Logan took his toll. Fun fact: Keanu literally tranlsates as "the coolness" in Hawaiian (ke=the, anu=cool). That is the best name ever. Also, there is a Philipino escort-turned-actres who goes by the pseudonym Keanna Reeves.

"As we traveled east, I felt the distinct impression that we had left the West and entered the East." - Keanu as Jonathan Harker in Coppola's Dracula. Not many actors could deliver such a line so brilliantly.

I think it's pretty safe to say that everyone in the world loves the movie "Hollow Man".  ;D

*urge to kill...rising...*
Damn it....I actually paid to see that in theatre, too  :(

Me too. Probably my worst movie-going experience ever, and I saw XXX in the theater. Yeah, it's that bad.
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: Variety of Cells on November 09, 2006, 10:32:52 AM
If anyone here doesn't like Evil Dead 2...I'LL SWALLOW YOUR SOUL!  I'LL SWALLOW YOUR SOUL!  I'LL SWALLOW YOUR SOUL!  I'LL SWALLOW YOUR SOUL!  I'LL SWALLOW YOUR SOUL! 

Would you like it grilled, fried, or in a little green glowing ring?
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: Cibernético II on November 09, 2006, 10:52:16 AM


Though if this were a bet, I'd place all my chips on Eyes Wide Shut.  Everyone loves that film.

you're being facetious, right?
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: Variety of Cells on November 09, 2006, 10:58:25 AM


Though if this were a bet, I'd place all my chips on Eyes Wide Shut.  Everyone loves that film.

you're being facetious, right?

Yes.  I personally like the film, but I know my opinion is about as popular as banning all swearing and nudity from Rifftrax.
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: Shinigami on November 09, 2006, 11:09:24 AM
How about this, is there anyone who dislikes Fight Club.
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: torgosPizza on November 09, 2006, 11:11:10 AM
Anyone who doesn't like Monty Python gets banned immediately. I think we can agree on that.

There is a special BanHammer for those who don't know who Tim the Enchanter is.

Also, anyone who gives the incorrect air-speed velocity of an unladen swallow will be blocked from posting for 24 hours.
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: BathTub on November 09, 2006, 11:18:34 AM
One of the things I found impressive about Citizen Kane was the old age make-up, the film covers what, 60-70 years? I thought they did a great job.

Xanadu, stately home of Charles Whitman....
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: kodiakthejuggler on November 09, 2006, 11:20:53 AM
How about this, is there anyone who dislikes Fight Club.

I don't like it. Not that it wasn't made well, but I just didn't like it. The last thing we need is a bunch of punks getting together to celebrate the advancement of the human species by beating the shit out of eachother. Devolution indeed.


Also, anyone who gives the incorrect air-speed velocity of an unladen swallow will be blocked from posting for 24 hours.

What do you mean... and African or European Swallow?
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: Cap'n UKRiffer on November 09, 2006, 11:27:06 AM
How about this, is there anyone who dislikes Fight Club.

Sorry but you know the rules, your not allowed to talk about Fight Club
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: Variety of Cells on November 09, 2006, 11:51:43 AM
How about this, is there anyone who dislikes Fight Club.

I don't like it. Not that it wasn't made well, but I just didn't like it. The last thing we need is a bunch of punks getting together to celebrate the advancement of the human species by beating the shit out of eachother. Devolution indeed.

Then you missed the point of the movie.  Though I'll give this, it's very very very very very easy to miss the point of that movie.
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: SmilinJackRoss on November 09, 2006, 12:03:52 PM

I nominate: Evil Dead 2

any objections?

I know I'll get flamed for this, but I've never "got" the the appeal of the Evil Dead films.  I find them just really bad and boring.  And people idolize Bruce Campbell, for really no reason at all, other than he was in those movies.  I HATED Bubba Ho-Tep.

Then you missed the point of the movie.  Though I'll give this, it's very very very very very easy to miss the point of that movie.

Exactly. 
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: Cap'n UKRiffer on November 09, 2006, 12:07:23 PM
I know I'll get flamed for this, but I've never "got" the the appeal of the Evil Dead films.  I find them just really bad and boring.  And people idolize Bruce Campbell, for really no reason at all, other than he was in those movies.  I HATED Bubba Ho-Tep.

I'm going to be gentlemanly and keep my mouth shut...
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: kodiakthejuggler on November 09, 2006, 12:29:10 PM
Then you missed the point of the movie.  Though I'll give this, it's very very very very very easy to miss the point of that movie.


It's not that I missed the point, it's that I didn't care for the point they were trying to make. The beating up of other people was just a side note  ;)
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: shortstack on November 09, 2006, 01:01:59 PM

Me too. Probably my worst movie-going experience ever, and I saw XXX in the theater. Yeah, it's that bad.

Ironically, I also saw XXX in the theatre.  I didn't really care much about the plot, only that Vin Diesel was hot  :-*, so I actually sort of enjoyed it.

Then you missed the point of the movie.  Though I'll give this, it's very very very very very easy to miss the point of that movie.

It's not a superbly deep story or anything, but I think the book does a better job of explaining it than the movie
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: Cap'n UKRiffer on November 09, 2006, 01:06:09 PM
Ironically, I also saw XXX in the theatre.  I didn't really care much about the plot, only that Vin Diesel was hot  :-*, so I actually sort of enjoyed it.

Women...  ::)
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: shortstack on November 09, 2006, 01:09:19 PM
Ironically, I also saw XXX in the theatre.  I didn't really care much about the plot, only that Vin Diesel was hot  :-*, so I actually sort of enjoyed it.

Women...  ::)

I should probably point out that I hadn't initially intended to see it, it just ended up being the consensus between a bunch of people I was going to the movies with (all guys lol)
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: Cap'n UKRiffer on November 09, 2006, 01:10:40 PM
Ironically, I also saw XXX in the theatre.  I didn't really care much about the plot, only that Vin Diesel was hot  :-*, so I actually sort of enjoyed it.

Women...  ::)

I should probably point out that I hadn't initially intended to see it, it just ended up being the consensus between a bunch of people I was going to the movies with (all guys lol)

Men...  ::)
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: darthvedder81 on November 09, 2006, 01:32:25 PM
What about some animated features?

The "Toy Story" movies are something I think we could all agree on. If you hate those you clearly have no joy in your soul.
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: Petey Wheatstraw on November 09, 2006, 01:56:02 PM
From out of left field: Does anybody not like Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure? Seriously.

Obviously, it's no masterpiece, but it is one of my favorites.

How about Casablanca?  I kinda liked it better than Citizen Kane.

I liked The Maltese Falcon and The Treasure of the Sierra Madre far more than Casablanca, which didn't really have much of an effect on me. I mean, I guess it's pretty good, but there are many films that I like more than it, including Citizen Kane.

What about some animated features?

The "Toy Story" movies are something I think we could all agree on. If you hate those you clearly have no joy in your soul.

I've only seen the first, which I loved as a kid. I haven't seen it since, so I can't really comment on it.

My favorite animated movie of all time is Heavy Traffic -- now THAT is a movie! Damn good. 8)
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: BBQ Platypus on November 09, 2006, 02:22:00 PM
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I'm going to be gentlemanly and keep my mouth shut...

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Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: J-Proof on November 09, 2006, 03:10:51 PM
Was the Godfather Series mentioned?
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: daltysmilth on November 09, 2006, 03:25:10 PM
Was the Godfather Series mentioned?

I don't know, but I'm about to actually be a Godfather.  By which, I mean I will have a godchild, not that I'm going to be a mobster.  Still, if there's anyone you want whacked, just let me know.
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: Cibernético II on November 09, 2006, 03:36:45 PM
I thought Fight Club was sadistic, creepy, and homo-erotic. Who knows how many thousands of teenagers and stupid guys decided to take off there shirts and bang each other's head on cement after watching that movie. Oh, not to mention the bombs and stuff

how about the Three Stooges? Anybody a stooge hater?
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: Pak-Man on November 09, 2006, 04:34:32 PM
Stooges seem to be a guy-thing. My wife (Also a poster 'round these parts) doesn't get 'em. I love slapstick. :^)
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: Tyrant on November 09, 2006, 04:41:18 PM

  Slapstick is funny when it's got structure. Stooges has no structure, therefore all I see when I watch Stooges are 3 guys beating the crap out of eachother to stupid sound effects.

   But I'll admit that hating Stooges is probably a woman thing, just as Pak admitted liking Stooges is a guy thing.

   My slapstick needs to come in the form that is I Love Lucy for me to find it funny. Or whatever slapstick Monty Python has dished out.


  Anyone else think the ending to Holy Grail was the most brilliantly hysterical ending to a movie ever filmed?  ;D
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: J-Proof on November 09, 2006, 05:10:54 PM
The Stooges rock. My mom and I love chillin' and watching the stooges. Curly is both of our favorites of course. When I watch the Stooges, I am reminded of simpler, Tom and Jerry times....
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: mrbasehart on November 09, 2006, 05:33:37 PM
I've never seen a proper Stooges film, but from the clips I see, it looks like three stupid guys hitting each other a lot.  If that's all their movies are, then I'll wait a while before tackling them.

How about Monty Python's Life of Brian? A brilliant film, with (and I've said this before) the best ending in movie history.
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: Petey Wheatstraw on November 09, 2006, 06:49:32 PM
how about the Three Stooges? Anybody a stooge hater?

Not me - I'm a huge Stooges fan. The Three Stooges are one of the greatest comedy teams ever. If anyone thinks that it's all just a trio of guys slapping each other around, they're wrong. There's a lot to these films than just slapstick. The Three Stooges films are well-crafted pieces of hilarity, and some excellent word-play. Anyone who hates the Stooges cannot possibly call himself a comedy fan.

For anyone who has not seen the Stooges' work, pick up all four of Legend Films' Stooges releases (including the 20th Century Fox issue hosted by Mike, Kevin Murphy, and Bill Corbett), and enough [insert soda name here] and popcorn to last you through the duration of all four discs, and laugh your butt off.

8)
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: shortstack on November 09, 2006, 07:36:12 PM
I'm a girl and I love the stooges...I used to watch them every sunday with my dad.

The Stooges are mostly all about the clever sight-gags:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=X_x9m8Aq1Uo
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: Sharktopus on November 09, 2006, 07:55:20 PM
Anything starring Bruce Campbell is good, except The Man With The Screaming Brain, which was just meh. By the way, don't judge Evil Dead 2 or Army Of Darkness by Evil Dead. Evil Dead 2 is pretty much just a remake of the first with an eyes towards tongue-in-cheek goofiness.

The 3 Stooges are retarded. I feel stupid just seeing them. Three grown men wailing on each other for no apparent reason. I could watch professional wrestling for that and it's be funnier. And I really don't understand why our beloved Film Crew boys love them so much.

Fight Club is overrated. It has the reputation is does simply because people expected it to be some stupid Bloodsport movie and it turned out to have a theme and stuff.

Also overrated? The Godfather. Why? Because people love it for the wrong reasons. The whole point of the film is that Michael starts out a good, stand-up guy, and then his father's "family business" turns him into a screwed-up dirtbag. Becoming the Godfather ruined his life. You don't want to be Michael Corleone, you jackass gangster wannabes! It'll SWALLOW YOUR SOUL! (Pretty slick how I brought that back around, huh?)

The Sharktopus hath spoken.
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: daltysmilth on November 10, 2006, 12:00:40 AM
I'm a girl and I love the stooges...I used to watch them every sunday with my dad.

The Stooges are mostly all about the clever sight-gags:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=X_x9m8Aq1Uo

I'm a guy and I really don't get the appeal of the Three Stooges.  Maybe I just haven't seen the funny ones, but the ones I've seen have barely brought forth a chuckle in me.  Now to me, if you wanna talk about funny, then I need only say two words.  "Abbot" and "Costello".  To this day, even the worst performance of "Who's On First" brings me endless joy. 
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: WouTar on November 10, 2006, 12:20:11 AM
The 3 Stooges are retarded. I feel stupid just seeing them. Three grown men wailing on each other for no apparent reason. I could watch professional wrestling for that and it's be funnier. And I really don't understand why our beloved Film Crew boys love them so much.

I agree.
Fight Club is overrated. It has the reputation is does simply because people expected it to be some stupid Bloodsport movie and it turned out to have a theme and stuff.

I disagree so much my hand just turned inside out.

Also overrated? The Godfather. Why? Because people love it for the wrong reasons. The whole point of the film is that Michael starts out a good, stand-up guy, and then his father's "family business" turns him into a screwed-up dirtbag. Becoming the Godfather ruined his life. You don't want to be Michael Corleone, you jackass gangster wannabes!

I hate the Godfather trilogy. Why? It's not really THAT good, people! (Not a legitimate reason of course.
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: Petey Wheatstraw on November 10, 2006, 04:10:36 AM
I'm a girl and I love the stooges...I used to watch them every sunday with my dad.

The Stooges are mostly all about the clever sight-gags:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=X_x9m8Aq1Uo

I'm a guy and I really don't get the appeal of the Three Stooges.  Maybe I just haven't seen the funny ones, but the ones I've seen have barely brought forth a chuckle in me.  Now to me, if you wanna talk about funny, then I need only say two words.  "Abbot" and "Costello".  To this day, even the worst performance of "Who's On First" brings me endless joy. 

Well, Dalty, I do love Abbott & Costello's work (even their lesser films, such as the two flicks they did in color, one of which is planned for release by Legend Films), but the Stooges are my absolute favorite. Watch the YouTube clip. "Disorder in the Court" is pure comic brilliance. If you aren't rolling on the floor laughing when Curly is asked to take the stand, you're nuts!

Also overrated? The Godfather.

I hate the Godfather trilogy. Why? It's not really THAT good people!

Oh, come on, you have GOT to be kidding me...you're bagging on The Godfather? The greatest film trilogy ever? (And the person who mentions "Star Wars" or "Lord of the Rings" will get punched in the face.)

I love the Godfather movies because they're so perfect, and there are very few perfect films in existence, let alone a whole trilogy (again, you Hobbit-wannabes and Lightsaber-swinging geeks will get socked if you say that George Lucas or Peter Jackson made anything better than Francis Ford Coppola's masterful trilogy).

I can't say for sure whether or not the first film is the greatest movie of all time, as IMDb's Top 250 has voted, but it's a great film, and a million times better than a lot of things, that's for damn sure.
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: BathTub on November 10, 2006, 05:42:30 AM
A couple of my favourites, Top Secret, and Labyrinth.
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: dignan on November 10, 2006, 08:11:36 AM
MST3K the movie is a safe bet, I suspect.

I think that one gets disqualified though...too easy.


I nominate: Evil Dead 2

any objections?

I'm going to see Evil Dead: The Musical next Saturday!  Woo!  Can't wait.

Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: WouTar on November 10, 2006, 08:19:34 AM
A couple of my favourites, Top Secret, and Labyrinth.

God, yes!

I think we can all agree Dune is a stellar work of art that works on multiple levels....accept as a film adaptation of the book Dune.

Ow, and there is NOTHING even remotely gay about it!

(http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l282/Hoogd115/WTF2.jpg)(http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l282/Hoogd115/WTF1.jpg)

I resent you for even implying such a thing!
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: mrbasehart on November 10, 2006, 09:03:41 AM
I think we can all agree Dune is a stellar work of art that works on multiple levels....accept as a film adaptation of the book Dune.

Ow, and there is NOTHING even remotely gay about it!

Don't they end up riding on the backs of giant sand worms too?

Love the books, btw.
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: Cap'n UKRiffer on November 10, 2006, 09:28:52 AM
Damn, WouTar... did not need to see that...
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: JonnyFrag on November 10, 2006, 09:55:56 AM
MST3K the movie is a safe bet, I suspect.

I think that one gets disqualified though...too easy.


I nominate: Evil Dead 2

any objections?

I'm going to see Evil Dead: The Musical next Saturday!  Woo!  Can't wait.



Man I wish I could go to that...

So far the list of everyone likes movies:
Evil Dead (any I guess)
Monty Python (especially The Grail)
Fight Club
The Godfather movies (even 3? Ugh)


what else?
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: Cap'n UKRiffer on November 10, 2006, 09:58:24 AM
what else?

Prince of Space

"We like it very much!"
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: Cibernético II on November 10, 2006, 10:01:50 AM
no, actually we disagreed on Fight Club
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: Variety of Cells on November 10, 2006, 10:02:48 AM
You can scratch Evil Dead, Fight Club and The Godfather, and you can add Citizen Cane.  There have been non-likers for those three.  I don't remember any for Citizen Cane.

That leaves us with

Monty Python (minus maybe the Meaning of Life)
Citizen Cane.

Let's see.  Is there any hate for Apocalypse Now?  It's not my favorite film, but I defiantly like it.  And how about Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind?
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: dignan on November 10, 2006, 10:19:33 AM
You can scratch Evil Dead, Fight Club and The Godfather, and you can add Citizen Cane.  There have been non-likers for those three.  I don't remember any for Citizen Cane.

That leaves us with

Monty Python (minus maybe the Meaning of Life)
Citizen Cane.

Let's see.  Is there any hate for Apocalypse Now?  It's not my favorite film, but I defiantly like it.  And how about Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind?

I really wasn't a fan of Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind.  I absolutely LOVED the trailer for it though.  But the movie as a whole just did nothing for me. 
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: MontyServo on November 10, 2006, 10:34:10 AM
I also like Citizen Kane and the Monty Python films (including Meaning Of Life).

What about The Incredibles??  A great superhero film, and a great animated film.

Any haters here for that one?? 

Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: Tyrant on November 10, 2006, 12:13:19 PM
I also like Citizen Kane and the Monty Python films (including Meaning Of Life).

What about The Incredibles??  A great superhero film, and a great animated film.

Any haters here for that one?? 



 
   The Incredibles was so awesome that even I loved it, and I absolutely loathe CGI films for the most part (not at first, but they've become so milguetoast that now I can't stand them. I prefer traditional animation or claymation anymore).

   It's a gorgeous movie back to front and even upside down. Good writing, good cgi, good characters. I'm afraid I'll have to eat the face of anyone who didn't like it. With apologies, of course.
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: JonnyFrag on November 10, 2006, 12:45:29 PM
I liked the Incredibles, but since around Toy Story 2, I think Pixar's stuff has been falling off in quality. Monsters Inc? ugh
Finding Nemo and Indredibles are good but the rest are pretty middling.

And I also think that the Meaning of Life is vastly underrated. I place it above Life of Brian in my Python list. Grail of course is tops.
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: Shinigami on November 10, 2006, 01:17:02 PM
I got some for yah

Princess Bride

Neverending Story

Goonies

...nuh said
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: Pak-Man on November 10, 2006, 02:13:34 PM
The 3 Stooges are retarded. I feel stupid just seeing them. Three grown men wailing on each other for no apparent reason. I could watch professional wrestling for that and it's be funnier. And I really don't understand why our beloved Film Crew boys love them so much.

I agree.
Fight Club is overrated. It has the reputation is does simply because people expected it to be some stupid Bloodsport movie and it turned out to have a theme and stuff.

I disagree so much my hand just turned inside out.

Also overrated? The Godfather. Why? Because people love it for the wrong reasons. The whole point of the film is that Michael starts out a good, stand-up guy, and then his father's "family business" turns him into a screwed-up dirtbag. Becoming the Godfather ruined his life. You don't want to be Michael Corleone, you jackass gangster wannabes!

I hate the Godfather trilogy. Why? It's not really THAT good, people! (Not a legitimate reason of course.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZdzv0f02go
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: Steve-O on November 10, 2006, 03:34:11 PM
I don't know whether or not it's universally loved, but I do know this: if you don't like "Shaun of the Dead", then we can't be friends anymore.
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: Variety of Cells on November 10, 2006, 04:04:11 PM
 
   The Incredibles was so awesome that even I loved it, and I absolutely loathe CGI films for the most part (not at first, but they've become so milguetoast that now I can't stand them. I prefer traditional animation or claymation anymore).

   It's a gorgeous movie back to front and even upside down. Good writing, good cgi, good characters. I'm afraid I'll have to eat the face of anyone who didn't like it. With apologies, of course.

Geeze.  So BBQ Platypus has already eaten my soul, and now my face is being devoured.  The way things are going, I'm not going to have much left.  I dread the day some one says "and if some one doesn't like Sin City, I'll eat their fingers as finger food!"  for then I would no longer be able to post.
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: Petey Wheatstraw on November 10, 2006, 04:15:06 PM
I think we can all agree Dune is a stellar work of art that works on multiple levels....accept as a film adaptation of the book Dune.

Ow, and there is NOTHING even remotely gay about it!

Those costumes don't actually appear in the film, by the way.

I love Dune - it's my all-time favorite sci-fi movie, and David Lynch's most underrated.

Is there any hate for Apocalypse Now?

Apocalypse Now is most likely the greatest movie of all time. Either that, or A Clockwork Orange.

I don't know whether or not it's universally loved, but I do know this: if you don't like "Shaun of the Dead", then we can't be friends anymore.

Shaun of the Dead is my favorite movie of the last ten years. It combines two of my loves, zombie movies and British comedy. Fantastic! Too bad BBC America stopped re-running "Spaced" - I only got to see two episodes. :'(

 
   The Incredibles was so awesome that even I loved it, and I absolutely loathe CGI films for the most part (not at first, but they've become so milguetoast that now I can't stand them. I prefer traditional animation or claymation anymore).

   It's a gorgeous movie back to front and even upside down. Good writing, good cgi, good characters. I'm afraid I'll have to eat the face of anyone who didn't like it. With apologies, of course.

Geeze.  So BBQ Platypus has already eaten my soul, and now my face is being devoured.  The way things are going, I'm not going to have much left.  I dread the day some one says "and if some one doesn't like Sin City, I'll eat their fingers as finger food!"  for then I would no longer be able to post.

Well, that's what you get for not liking anything. Sin City was cool as hell. What's not to like?
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: Cap'n UKRiffer on November 10, 2006, 04:24:28 PM
Well, that's what you get for not liking anything. Sin City was cool as hell. What's not to like?

Jessica Alba kept her clothes on
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: Sharktopus on November 10, 2006, 04:26:08 PM
Apocalypse No Thank You
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: Tyrant on November 10, 2006, 04:38:15 PM
I don't know whether or not it's universally loved, but I do know this: if you don't like "Shaun of the Dead", then we can't be friends anymore.


    Shaun of the Dead was brilliant! I've never seen such a perfectly constructed horror/romance/comedy. I don't think there's ever been such a thing before. Has there?
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: Variety of Cells on November 10, 2006, 04:41:37 PM
Well, that's what you get for not liking anything. Sin City was cool as hell. What's not to like?

Hey, I'm the one who posted Apocalypse Now, so I do like some movies.  A Clock Work Orange is also one of my favorites, but I'm sure there's some one here who doesn't like it.  Oh, and you don't want to get me started on Sin City.

So Apocalypse and Eternal Sunshine were shot down, how about The Big Lebowski?  Haven't heard of too many people who dislike it, and the ones who did wouldn't be members of a Rifftrax forum. 
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: Steve-O on November 10, 2006, 05:07:28 PM
I don't know whether or not it's universally loved, but I do know this: if you don't like "Shaun of the Dead", then we can't be friends anymore.


    Shaun of the Dead was brilliant! I've never seen such a perfectly constructed horror/romance/comedy. I don't think there's ever been such a thing before. Has there?

You could probably count "Dead Alive", but that was much more of a farce.
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: Petey Wheatstraw on November 10, 2006, 05:32:50 PM
Apocalypse No Thank You

You really don't like it? Or are you joking? What's not to like about Apocalypse Now? It's as great as movies can get.

how about The Big Lebowski?

Yep, that's a great movie. The Coen Brothers are fine filmmakers. Or at least they were until Intolerable Cruelty and the Ladykillers remake (don't know if the next one they do will be golden like their earlier work or another turd), but The Big Lebowski has them at the top of their game. 8)

You could probably count "Dead Alive", but that was much more of a farce.

And there's also the fact that "Dead Alive" (Braindead when it was originally released internationally) stunk on ice.
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: mrbakasan on November 10, 2006, 05:33:59 PM
I guess I liked Shaun of the Dead, but I didn't love it.

I nominate They Live, everyone loves They Live.

And I utterly despise Apocolypse Now.

Big thumbs up for Dune though.
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: starfighter on November 10, 2006, 08:33:33 PM
    Big thumbs up for the mention of "The Incredibles" but it also reminds me to mention two excellent animated films on TCM Sunday night, November 12th.  Brad Bird's "The Iron Giant" and then the saddest anime I've ever seen, the beautifully done "Grave of the Fireflies."  If you've ever missed either of these, set your recorders and check 'em out.
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: Cibernético II on November 10, 2006, 09:51:22 PM
I love the Iron Giant, one of the most glanced over animated movies ever.

Grave of the Fireflies is sickeningly depressing
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: Shinigami on November 11, 2006, 10:53:41 AM
everybody ignored my new suggestions.

come on, is there anybody who doesn't like Princess Bride
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: BathTub on November 11, 2006, 11:52:57 AM
Not like The Princess Bride? INCONCEIVABLE!
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: SaucyRossy on November 11, 2006, 11:58:07 AM
everybody ignored my new suggestions.

come on, is there anybody who doesn't like Princess Bride

That just isnt possible....speaking of which any one else catch the Princess Bride reference in the SWEP1 rifftrax? Brilliant.
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: BBQ Platypus on November 11, 2006, 01:30:10 PM
Well, that's what you get for not liking anything. Sin City was cool as hell. What's not to like?

Jessica Alba kept her clothes on

Granted.  That was extremely disappointing.  But other than that, what's not to like about Sin City?
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: Petey Wheatstraw on November 11, 2006, 02:46:39 PM
is there anybody who doesn't like Princess Bride

It's a piece of shit.
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: Variety of Cells on November 11, 2006, 04:34:16 PM
everybody ignored my new suggestions.

come on, is there anybody who doesn't like Princess Bride

I can't say I don't like it, so a Princess Bride is also up for the running.  The means we have...

Citizen Cane
Monty Python movies
The Big Lebowski (so far, not many comments on that one)
The Princess Bride, unless Isaac was being serious.

am I missing anything?

Well, that's what you get for not liking anything. Sin City was cool as hell. What's not to like?

Jessica Alba kept her clothes on

Granted.  That was extremely disappointing.  But other than that, what's not to like about Sin City?

Alright, you asked for it. 

Sin City is fine if you like horrible, cheesy acting.  It's fine if you like your movies to be violence pilled on top of more violence without really saying anything other than "hey look, violence!".  Sin City is great if you are alright with sacrificing story for the sake of stuff that looks cool.  Sin City is amazing if you've always wanted your gore made sexual by blood that looks like semen.

There were humorous moments.  It looked cool.  But that can not excuse the pointlessness of it all.  My biggest problem with it was the acting.  I couldn't buy into any of the characters besides Mickey Rorke's.  I especially hated the prostitutes.  The idea was ridiculous to begin with, but that shot of all the extras shooting down into the street made me really embarrassed for the film makers.  There, that's what I don't like about Sin City. 
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: mrbasehart on November 11, 2006, 07:44:17 PM

I can't say I don't like it, so a Princess Bride is also up for the running.  The means we have...

Citizen Cane
Monty Python movies
The Big Lebowski (so far, not many comments on that one)
The Princess Bride, unless Isaac was being serious.

I hate all of the movies mentioned here.   ;)
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: Petey Wheatstraw on November 11, 2006, 07:52:58 PM
The Princess Bride, unless Isaac was being serious.

Did you see a winking smiley?

"It stinks! It stinks! It stinks!" "Yes, Mr. Sherman, everything stinks."
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: Variety of Cells on November 11, 2006, 08:00:58 PM
Alright.  Usually people defend their harsh accusations, but I suppose that isn't the point of this topic.

So we can only agree on three films so far?  I suppose that makes sense. If we enjoy watching movies being riffed, we wouldn't have much of a problem not liking a film.
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: Sharktopus on November 11, 2006, 10:01:16 PM
Apocalypse No Thank You

You really don't like it? Or are you joking? What's not to like about Apocalypse Now? It's as great as movies can get.

I can't stand Apocalypse Now. It's not that I don't get it, I just don't enjoy watching it. It feels like Brando's Kurtz wrote and directed it after he'd gone batshit up the river. I can't get into those immersive types of films where you're sort of thrust into the mental space of the main character, like Clockwork Orange or Fear And Loathing. In fact, now that I think of it, that's probably why I like so few Kubrick movies. It never occurred to me before. I've learned something about myself.
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: Petey Wheatstraw on November 12, 2006, 02:35:53 AM
I can't stand Apocalypse Now. It's not that I don't get it, I just don't enjoy watching it. It feels like Brando's Kurtz wrote and directed it after he'd gone batshit up the river. I can't get into those immersive types of films where you're sort of thrust into the metal space of the main character, like Clockwork Orange or Fear And Loathing. In fact, now that I think of it, that's probably why I like so few Kubrick movies. It never occurred to me before. I've learned something about myself.

Are you sure you don't mean "thrust into the mental space of the main character"? Actually, I think that's what makes a lot of these films really good.

Fear and Loathing is the best example of an adaptation of a book that I can think of. It got the tone right, the material was generally faithful (in some instances, creative measures had to be taken in order for it to be filmable), the acting's excellent, great music all the way through, just a damn fine film, and one of Terry Gilliam's best. 8)
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: WouTar on November 12, 2006, 07:03:10 AM
Princess Bride - Dislike
Godfather - Dislike
Incredibles - Dislike

Scrape those.
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: Steve-O on November 12, 2006, 01:27:31 PM
I haven't heard a dislike for Shaun o' the Dead yet, though I have no doubt that this message will spur somebody to one.
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: dignan on November 12, 2006, 04:26:54 PM
While I don't exactly DISlike Citizen Kane, I also don't feel the need to ever see it again.  We watched it for a film class in college, and we just had to analyze the movie to death.  We spent so much time with that damn movie, poring over every excrutiatingly tiny little detail, that I just got sick of Citizen Kane and all the hoopla surrounding it.  It's a good movie, I can recognize that, it's just not a favorite of mine by a long shot.
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: Sharktopus on November 12, 2006, 10:15:53 PM
I can't stand Apocalypse Now. It's not that I don't get it, I just don't enjoy watching it. It feels like Brando's Kurtz wrote and directed it after he'd gone batshit up the river. I can't get into those immersive types of films where you're sort of thrust into the metal space of the main character, like Clockwork Orange or Fear And Loathing. In fact, now that I think of it, that's probably why I like so few Kubrick movies. It never occurred to me before. I've learned something about myself.

Are you sure you don't mean "thrust into the mental space of the main character"? Actually, I think that's what makes a lot of these films really good.

Fear and Loathing is the best example of an adaptation of a book that I can think of. It got the tone right, the material was generally faithful (in some instances, creative measures had to be taken in order for it to be filmable), the acting's excellent, great music all the way through, just a damn fine film, and one of Terry Gilliam's best. 8)

Yes, I meant "mental" space. Thusly edited.

I agree, Fear And Loathing is an excellent adaptation of the source material, and the performances are all excellent, especially Johnny Depp. I think Hunter even said something to effect of "Depp does a better me than I do." That said, I don't enjoy the movie. It puts you in Duke and Dr. Gonzo's shoes a little too well for me, especially when they start doing downright dirtbag things towards the end.
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: Petey Wheatstraw on November 12, 2006, 11:43:33 PM
While I don't exactly DISlike Citizen Kane, I also don't feel the need to ever see it again.  We watched it for a film class in college, and we just had to analyze the movie to death.  We spent so much time with that damn movie, poring over every excrutiatingly tiny little detail, that I just got sick of Citizen Kane and all the hoopla surrounding it.  It's a good movie, I can recognize that, it's just not a favorite of mine by a long shot.

I always enjoy watching Citizen Kane, and Touch of Evil (Touch of Evil's probably my all-time favorite movie). Try seeing it again, but watch it as a movie. 8)
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: kodiakthejuggler on November 13, 2006, 04:11:11 AM
I'll forgive those who don't like The Incredibles.

But to those who dislike or *gulp* hate The Princess Bride...

"Hello. My name is Kodiak the Juggler. You hate my movie. Prepare to die."

 >:(
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: dignan on November 13, 2006, 05:51:27 AM
While I don't exactly DISlike Citizen Kane, I also don't feel the need to ever see it again.  We watched it for a film class in college, and we just had to analyze the movie to death.  We spent so much time with that damn movie, poring over every excrutiatingly tiny little detail, that I just got sick of Citizen Kane and all the hoopla surrounding it.  It's a good movie, I can recognize that, it's just not a favorite of mine by a long shot.

I always enjoy watching Citizen Kane, and Touch of Evil (Touch of Evil's probably my all-time favorite movie). Try seeing it again, but watch it as a movie. 8)

Oh, I've tried.  It doesn't change my opinion of it as:  good movie that does nothing for me.  I do like Touch of Evil, however. 
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: darthvedder81 on November 13, 2006, 11:01:08 AM
Toy Story has to go on the list. Either of them (I prefer the sequel myself).

How can anyone not like Toy Story?
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: WouTar on November 13, 2006, 11:17:44 AM
Those costumes don't actually appear in the film, by the way.

Lies, all lies!

Sting's steel underwear actually does appear in the movie. That particular scene is available for endless re-watching.

I am SO kidding, but it does appear in the movie though.
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: Dr.Impossible on November 13, 2006, 06:49:22 PM
Oh, I know one! Beastmaster 2: through the portal of time. I love it when the beastmaster is driving through LA and he sees a theater playing the original Beastmaster. I love meta humor. And they really deliver on the premise of going through the portal of time.
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: Variety of Cells on November 13, 2006, 07:29:41 PM
Toy Story has to go on the list. Either of them (I prefer the sequel myself).

How can anyone not like Toy Story?

If there is one thing we can learn from this thread, it's to never say "How can anyone not like _____??"  Some one will almost always give a good reason for not liking it, making you look like a fool.  It's much safer to belittle those who don't like it by calling them stupid or threatening to eat their face than to ask a question that is easily answered.
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: mrbasehart on November 13, 2006, 08:49:33 PM
An interesting question that may be relevant to this thread is: Of the films we all watch, what percentage of those would you say you actually enjoyed?

I'm a pretty lenient guy, my standards having dropped so low by the MST3k films, so that if there's something good about a movie, I try and take that with me.  There's not many films I actively dislike, and I tend to be pretty indifferent about the ones inbetween. 

How about everyone else?
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: Variety of Cells on November 13, 2006, 09:13:21 PM
That's tricky.  I am picky about the films I take the time to watch (unless it's mst3k or Rifftrax) so I end up enjoying most of the films I see.  But if I were to pick films all willy nilly, I'd probably like very few.
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: Sharktopus on November 13, 2006, 09:19:01 PM
An interesting question that may be relevant to this thread is: Of the films we all watch, what percentage of those would you say you actually enjoyed?

I'm a pretty lenient guy, my standards having dropped so low by the MST3k films, so that if there's something good about a movie, I try and take that with me.  There's not many films I actively dislike, and I tend to be pretty indifferent about the ones inbetween. 

How about everyone else?

I'm pretty similar in that I'll usually find something to enjoy in a movie. Could a byproduct of MST/RiffTrax be an increased tolerance to mediocre movies? Some movies I couldn't find anything to like about - besides riffing- off the top of my head: Eyes Wide Shut, Hollow Man, The Fast And The Furious.
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: Petey Wheatstraw on November 13, 2006, 09:29:18 PM
Eyes Wide Shut, Hollow Man, The Fast And The Furious.

That's insulting, that you would lump anything by Kubrick in with that Hollywood claptrap. >:(
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: Sharktopus on November 13, 2006, 09:33:55 PM
Eyes Wide Shut, Hollow Man, The Fast And The Furious.

That's insulting, that you would lump anything by Kubrick in with that Hollywood claptrap. >:(

In fact, I'd rather watch Fast & Furious over Eyes Wide Shut if I had to choose. I never did see the end of that Vin Diesel/Paul Walker masterpiece.  ;D
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: dignan on November 14, 2006, 07:18:07 AM
Eyes Wide Shut, Hollow Man, The Fast And The Furious.

That's insulting, that you would lump anything by Kubrick in with that Hollywood claptrap. >:(

In fact, I'd rather watch Fast & Furious over Eyes Wide Shut if I had to choose. I never did see the end of that Vin Diesel/Paul Walker masterpiece.  ;D

Oh, you're missing out then.  Vin Diesel lives his life a quarter-mile at a time.  It's fascinating. 

Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: WouTar on November 14, 2006, 07:37:51 AM
I actually really liked Eyes Wide Shut. Eerie and the ending is just.... Weh. In a good way though.
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: Tyrant on November 14, 2006, 11:31:20 AM


  I can't believe no one has mentioned anything by Hitchcock. What's the deal? Rear Window is the most near perfect movie ever filmed.

  Never saw Eyes Wide Shut, but I enjoyed Clockwork Orange most readily. I also prefer Kubrick's Shining over the craptacular TV version that proved to me that Stephen King can't write a  screenplay to save his life.
 
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: daltysmilth on November 15, 2006, 04:45:26 PM
I just want to know why people dislike The Princess Bride.  It's like disliking Mother Theresa.  Hating the Princess Bride makes Baby Jesus cry.  It's true.  The Vatican released a document about it titled "Infringo In Quare Exosus Procer Pontus Mos Planto Infantia Jesu Vox" or "Discourse On Why Hating The Princess Bride Will Make Baby Jesus Cry".
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: Dr.Impossible on November 15, 2006, 06:08:21 PM
I just want to know why people dislike The Princess Bride.  It's like disliking Mother Theresa.  Hating the Princess Bride makes Baby Jesus cry.  It's true.  The Vatican released a document about it titled "Infringo In Quare Exosus Procer Pontus Mos Planto Infantia Jesu Vox" or "Discourse On Why Hating The Princess Bride Will Make Baby Jesus Cry".
I don't dislike that movie per se, but I never understood why people like it so much. What's its appeal?
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: 6079SmithW on November 15, 2006, 07:21:17 PM
I just want to know why people dislike The Princess Bride.  It's like disliking Mother Theresa.  Hating the Princess Bride makes Baby Jesus cry.  It's true.  The Vatican released a document about it titled "Infringo In Quare Exosus Procer Pontus Mos Planto Infantia Jesu Vox" or "Discourse On Why Hating The Princess Bride Will Make Baby Jesus Cry".
I don't dislike that movie per se, but I never understood why people like it so much. What's its appeal?
Charm, wit, strong cast, great script, interesting locales, great set pieces, and pretty much everything else a movie with no nudity possibly could have going.
Also, Cary Elwes.
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: Sharktopus on November 15, 2006, 07:58:40 PM
Charm, wit, strong cast, great script, interesting locales, great set pieces, and pretty much everything else a movie with no nudity possibly could have going.
Also, Cary Elwes.
Who, unlike some other Robin Hoods, can speak with a British accent.
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: Minnesota on November 15, 2006, 08:23:01 PM


didn't like Citizen Kane -thought it was boring (please dont explain 'rose bud' to me, I didn't care watching it and I sure don't now).

didn't like a certain series of British movies (I dare not speak their names for fear of losing my soul) -proud to say that British men in dresses don't make me laugh

didn't like Evil Dead 2- I love Evil Dead (the original) part of my all-time top ten. The two movies are night and day.


*sigh*Apparently this is an understatement but just my unpopular opinions
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: Variety of Cells on November 15, 2006, 09:32:28 PM
So then we are left with... The Big Lebowski, and I'm sure we can find some one who doesn't like that.

Which means there's one more thing we can learn from this topic.  Never invite the entire Rifftrax fan base over to watch a movie, you'll never be able to decide what to watch.
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: 6079SmithW on November 15, 2006, 09:56:43 PM
So then we are left with... The Big Lebowski, and I'm sure we can find some one who doesn't like that.

Which means there's one more thing we can learn from this topic.  Never invite the entire Rifftrax fan base over to watch a movie, you'll never be able to decide what to watch.
I once watched it with someone who thought it was really stupid, and suddenly it didn't work. I love the movie, but like Spinal Tap, it can be ruined by a bad crowd. Thus, I'm positive somebody here will have disliked it their first time through, and never given it a second chance.
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: mrbasehart on November 16, 2006, 02:22:25 AM
Charm, wit, strong cast, great script, interesting locales, great set pieces, and pretty much everything else a movie with no nudity possibly could have going.
Also, Cary Elwes.
Who, unlike some other Robin Hoods, can speak with a British accent.

Wow.  Someone else actually quoting Robin Hood: Men in Tights.  "Are my seams straights? Thank God.  You know, you've got to be a real man to wear tights." *cue men in tights song*

The movie is a guilty pleasure of mine.
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: Sharktopus on November 16, 2006, 02:27:57 AM
Charm, wit, strong cast, great script, interesting locales, great set pieces, and pretty much everything else a movie with no nudity possibly could have going.
Also, Cary Elwes.
Who, unlike some other Robin Hoods, can speak with a British accent.

Wow.  Someone else actually quoting Robin Hood: Men in Tights.  "Are my seams straights? Thank God.  You know, you've got to be a real man to wear tights." *cue men in tights song*

The movie is a guilty pleasure of mine.

I love Men In Tights. Um. The movie, that is. *cough* I've grown out of most Mel Brooks movies, but for some reason that one hasn't lost it's shine. Of course, if I were to go back and watch it now, who knows.

"Master Robin, you've lost your arms in battle! ... Grown some nice boobs, though."
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: JonnyFrag on November 16, 2006, 06:12:59 AM
Wow, after all this and it seems that Shaun of the Dead is the only one to escape unscathed. The harshest comment so far was "I liked it, but didnt love it."

Is this the one?

Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: Petey Wheatstraw on November 16, 2006, 06:38:38 AM
I just want to know why people dislike The Princess Bride.  It's like disliking Mother Theresa.

Apparently you don't watch too many episodes of Bullshit! - Mother Theresa was a bit of a bitch. Also, Mahatma Gandhi was a racist. These are unpopular views, but this is the truth.
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: Pak-Man on November 16, 2006, 11:19:43 AM
Comedies seem to be a common thread. What about the Naked Gun movies? All gold, in my opinion. :^)
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: kodiakthejuggler on November 16, 2006, 11:28:10 AM
Comedies seem to be a common thread. What about the Naked Gun movies? All gold, in my opinion. :^)

I find that comedies are generally a very subjective genre. For instance, the type of humor displayed in the Naked Gun movies (or Zucker-style, if you will) does not sit well with many people, though I can't imagine why. I personally love that type of humor, and it leaves me in stitches! However, movies like The Royal Tenenbaums crack me up, but are despised by many. These are very different styles of comedy, but have their own followers.

Funny story about Tenenbaums, I was at a Blockbuster Video(I know, hisssss!!) a long time ago and I overheard a lady talking to another about Tenenbaums. She said something to the effect of "I put that movie in and was like 'What the hell is this?' and I said get this crap out of my player!" (p.s. she said this in a very twangy Texas accent), and I thought to myself, you know, lady, you remind me of the waitress in Tommy Boy who went to the TV and asked her patrons "Do y'all want this or American Gladiators?" Same type of lady. A movie like Tenenbaums is completely lost to her kind(no offense to those with a twangy Texas accent!).   ;D
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: JonnyFrag on November 16, 2006, 11:35:03 AM
Comedies seem to be a common thread. What about the Naked Gun movies? All gold, in my opinion. :^)

I find that comedies are generally a very subjective genre. For instance, the type of humor displayed in the Naked Gun movies (or Zucker-style, if you will) does not sit well with many people, though I can't imagine why. I personally love that type of humor, and it leaves me in stitches! However, movies like The Royal Tenenbaums crack me up, but are despised by many. These are very different styles of comedy, but have their own followers.

Funny story about Tenenbaums, I was at a Blockbuster Video(I know, hisssss!!) a long time ago and I overheard a lady talking to another about Tenenbaums. She said something to the effect of "I put that movie in and was like 'What the hell is this?' and I said get this crap out of my player!" (p.s. she said this in a very twangy Texas accent), and I thought to myself, you know, lady, you remind me of the waitress in Tommy Boy who went to the TV and asked her patrons "Do y'all want this or American Gladiators?" Same type of lady. A movie like Tenenbaums is completely lost to her kind(no offense to those with a twangy Texas accent!).   ;D

Kind of makes you wonder that if people like the characters on My Name is Earl think that show is funny. I suppose I should ask my wife's side of the family...
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: daltysmilth on November 16, 2006, 11:48:53 AM

Kind of makes you wonder that if people like the characters on My Name is Earl think that show is funny. I suppose I should ask my wife's side of the family...

Hey, I like My Name Is Earl.  Sure, it's not a laugh a minute, but even at its worst, it's not painful to watch.  (Which is more than I can say for Family Guy, or some of the more recent Simpsons.)
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: 6079SmithW on November 16, 2006, 02:03:27 PM
I just want to know why people dislike The Princess Bride.  It's like disliking Mother Theresa.

Apparently you don't watch too many episodes of Bullshit! - Mother Theresa was a bit of a bitch. Also, Mahatma Gandhi was a racist. These are unpopular views, but this is the truth.
Uh, I wouldn't use Bullshit! as a primary source for much of anything- they're funny, but they're openly kind of lax on research and such. A lot of what they do is taking facts somewhat out of context to play devil's advocate without necessarily even believing what they say.
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: Petey Wheatstraw on November 16, 2006, 02:57:43 PM
A lot of what they do is taking facts somewhat out of context to play devil's advocate without necessarily even believing what they say.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mother_Theresa#Controversy_and_critics (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mother_Theresa#Controversy_and_critics)

http://www.sikhtimes.com/bios_090102a.html (http://www.sikhtimes.com/bios_090102a.html)
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: darthvedder81 on November 16, 2006, 03:18:02 PM
Wow, after all this and it seems that Shaun of the Dead is the only one to escape unscathed. The harshest comment so far was "I liked it, but didnt love it."

Is this the one?



Sorry to say but I wasn't a fan of it. Too much forced British humor and unncessary violence. Blah.
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: Tyrant on November 16, 2006, 03:45:52 PM

  Er.....movies about a zombie invasion and unnecessary violence sort of go hand in hand. I mean....how can you NOT have unnecessary violence when zombies are trying to eat you?
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: Winterkid on November 16, 2006, 03:54:35 PM
I find the topic a bit too subjective, I mean everyone has different tastes in movies.  I enjoyed Star Wars: A New Hope (the original) so much, I've seen it more than 130 times, but I can't stand Star Trek: the Motion picture.  I've met people who think the exact opposite way, and also people who think that Jim Carrey is brilliant in everything he stars in.  I think Jim Carrey was a lot funnier when he was only trying to be zany, and not doing the stories "with a message".

That being said, I think David Lynch's Dune really kicked ass.  Still have to see the newer one.
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: daltysmilth on November 16, 2006, 05:25:24 PM
A lot of what they do is taking facts somewhat out of context to play devil's advocate without necessarily even believing what they say.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mother_Theresa#Controversy_and_critics (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mother_Theresa#Controversy_and_critics)

http://www.sikhtimes.com/bios_090102a.html (http://www.sikhtimes.com/bios_090102a.html)

Great!  Now tell us the one about how Walt Disney was a Nazi war criminal whose diet consisted of Cuban children.
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: Pak-Man on November 16, 2006, 05:34:03 PM
A lot of what they do is taking facts somewhat out of context to play devil's advocate without necessarily even believing what they say.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mother_Theresa#Controversy_and_critics (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mother_Theresa#Controversy_and_critics)

http://www.sikhtimes.com/bios_090102a.html (http://www.sikhtimes.com/bios_090102a.html)

Great!  Now tell us the one about how Walt Disney was a Nazi war criminal whose diet consisted of Cuban children.
Kay. :^)
http://www.youtube.com/v/gohVT46cWI4
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: kodiakthejuggler on November 16, 2006, 05:57:42 PM
Elian!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: mrbasehart on November 16, 2006, 06:29:46 PM
I think if we do find a movie that no one hates, it'll probably be one that one really loves, either.  Saying that though, does anyone not like the following:

Raiders of the Lost Ark
The Goonies
Aliens

?
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: Petey Wheatstraw on November 16, 2006, 10:28:28 PM
Great!  Now tell us the one about how Walt Disney was a Nazi war criminal whose diet consisted of Cuban children.

The stuff about Mother Theresa and Gandhi are facts and not rumors like those about Disney.

Speaking of which, does anyone not like Song of the South? Now that's a great movie.
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: Sharktopus on November 16, 2006, 10:35:49 PM
Great!  Now tell us the one about how Walt Disney was a Nazi war criminal whose diet consisted of Cuban children.

The stuff about Mother Theresa and Gandhi are facts and not rumors like those about Disney.

Speaking of which, does anyone not like Song of the South? Now that's a great movie.

Yeah, I can't think of anything funnier than dated ethnic sterotypes.
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: Petey Wheatstraw on November 16, 2006, 10:43:56 PM
Speaking of which, does anyone not like Song of the South? Now that's a great movie.

Yeah, I can't think of anything funnier than dated ethnic sterotypes.

You've never seen the movie before in your life. It's a wonderful film with a good message.
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: 6079SmithW on November 16, 2006, 11:04:09 PM
I think if we do find a movie that no one hates, it'll probably be one that one really loves, either.  Saying that though, does anyone not like the following:

Raiders of the Lost Ark
The Goonies
Aliens

?

Aliens is my least favorite of all four movies. Honestly.

I still kind of liked it, though.
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: daltysmilth on November 16, 2006, 11:46:05 PM
Great!  Now tell us the one about how Walt Disney was a Nazi war criminal whose diet consisted of Cuban children.

The stuff about Mother Theresa and Gandhi are facts and not rumors like those about Disney.

Speaking of which, does anyone not like Song of the South? Now that's a great movie.

Most of the bad stuff that article says about Mother Teresa sounds like it was a lack of proper resources that caused her not to be able to help people as much as she wanted to, not a lack of effort or compassion, or any specific ill will against them.  And the one about Gandhi seemed to suffer from a slight case of "No one said this is not true, therefore it must be true".  Even if he was a little bit racist, who wasn't back then?  Your grandparents and great-grandparents were probably raised to be racist.  And only because their parents brought them up that way.  And their parents were brought up that way.  And so on all the way back to Homo Erectus.
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: Petey Wheatstraw on November 17, 2006, 02:21:32 AM
Wow...that's just...yeah, I don't think I'm going to be in this conversation anymore. Good night. Keep ignoring the facts. Maybe one day you can afford the luxury of reality. ::)
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: Petey Wheatstraw on November 17, 2006, 02:25:39 AM
That being said, I think David Lynch's Dune really kicked ass.  Still have to see the newer one.

Yeah, it's the most underrated sci-fi movie of all time.
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: 6079SmithW on November 17, 2006, 02:30:30 AM
Wow...that's just...yeah, I don't think I'm going to be in this conversation anymore. Good night. Keep ignoring the facts. Maybe one day you can afford the luxury of reality. ::)
The facts being that neither Ghandi nor Mother Theresa were perfect beings? Why does that cause you to behave as though they were on a level with Stalin? True, it's a bit of a revelation to realize that even the greatest people of our times had flaws, but why the hell are you being such a jerk about it?
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: Petey Wheatstraw on November 17, 2006, 06:02:01 AM
The facts being that neither Ghandi nor Mother Theresa were perfect beings? Why does that cause you to behave as though they were on a level with Stalin?

I never went that far. I was only trying to say that these people weren't as perfect as they are often made out to be, that's all. I never made them out to be like Stalin.
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: Pak-Man on November 17, 2006, 07:33:53 AM
All right, let's steer back to the topic, now. :^)
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: Petey Wheatstraw on November 17, 2006, 10:24:59 AM
All right, let's steer back to the topic, now. :^)

Yeah, that's probably a good idea.

Okay...how about The Flying Deuces?
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: daltysmilth on November 17, 2006, 11:14:10 AM
Has anyone said they dislike MST3K:TM yet? 
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: Pak-Man on November 17, 2006, 11:19:28 AM
Almost too easy. :^)
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: Dr.Impossible on November 17, 2006, 11:47:16 AM
Has anyone said they dislike MST3K:TM yet? 
Really. A good question even outside of the forum. Has anyone ever known someone to NOT like it?
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: 6079SmithW on November 17, 2006, 12:13:49 PM
Has anyone said they dislike MST3K:TM yet? 
Really. A good question even outside of the forum. Has anyone ever known someone to NOT like it?
A friend of mine didn't like it because she only liked Joel. This wasn't a veteran of the fanboard wars or anything, she just kind of disliked Mike. It wasn't really a fair comparison, though, because the only episodes she'd seen (as far as I know) were Pod People and I Accuse My Parents, and almost anything else would be a let down at that point.
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: Petey Wheatstraw on November 17, 2006, 01:30:53 PM
Has anyone said they dislike MST3K:TM yet?
Really. A good question even outside of the forum. Has anyone ever known someone to NOT like it?

http://www.moria.co.nz/sf/mst3k.htm (http://www.moria.co.nz/sf/mst3k.htm)

This person clearly has no sense of humor, although I do agree with some of his other reviews.
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: Sharktopus on November 17, 2006, 01:51:04 PM
Speaking of which, does anyone not like Song of the South? Now that's a great movie.

Yeah, I can't think of anything funnier than dated ethnic sterotypes.

You've never seen the movie before in your life. It's a wonderful film with a good message.

That's true, I haven't seen it. But that's only because Disney's made it damn near impossible to find. I figured there's probably a reason they're ashamed of it. (Although they don't seem to be ashamed of crap like Kronk's New Groove...)
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: Pak-Man on November 17, 2006, 01:57:58 PM
Actually they're trying to hide it because they're afraid everyone would see an ethnic stereotype. There was really nothing bad about how other races were portrayed. Dumbo came under some fire too for the same reason. :^)
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: Tyrant on November 17, 2006, 02:27:30 PM

  To borrow Carlos Mencia's philosophy regarding racist stereotyping, the best way to respect other people is to make fun of them (and yourself as well).  ;D


   I won't go into modern Disney (which I hate more than I've ever hated anything ever before, and I hate ALOT of stuff), but classic Disney rocked, and Dumbo was one of my favorites. I don't see how anyone could not love that movie. It actually had a pretty good message too, in my opinion.
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: Pak-Man on November 17, 2006, 02:37:33 PM
Yeah, but those crows were awful black! Seriously, it's not like they were portrayed as bad people. It's no worse than all the Irish cops you see in old cartoons.
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: Steve-O on November 17, 2006, 02:43:38 PM
   I won't go into modern Disney (which I hate more than I've ever hated anything ever before, and I hate ALOT of stuff), but classic Disney rocked, and Dumbo was one of my favorites. I don't see how anyone could not love that movie. It actually had a pretty good message too, in my opinion.

Dumbo got grief because the crows were considered by some to be offensive.  I mean, they're crows, y'know.  Which are black.  And they're voiced by.. *gasp*... black men!  And then they launch into an ensemble jazz number!  My god, it's worse than cross burning.

The fact that the crows are among the most sympathetic characters in the film -- in fact, are the only sympathetic characters beyond Dumbo, Mrs. Jumbo, and Timothy Mouse -- apparently slid right by the political correctness brigade.

Oh, and people were also pissed that the roustabouts were black.  I personally never worked with a traveling circus in the early 1940's, but I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest that the manual labor force was not a model of progressive ethnic diversity.
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: 6079SmithW on November 17, 2006, 04:52:48 PM
   I won't go into modern Disney (which I hate more than I've ever hated anything ever before, and I hate ALOT of stuff), but classic Disney rocked, and Dumbo was one of my favorites. I don't see how anyone could not love that movie. It actually had a pretty good message too, in my opinion.

Dumbo got grief because the crows were considered by some to be offensive.  I mean, they're crows, y'know.  Which are black.  And they're voiced by.. *gasp*... black men!  And then they launch into an ensemble jazz number!  My god, it's worse than cross burning.

The fact that the crows are among the most sympathetic characters in the film -- in fact, are the only sympathetic characters beyond Dumbo, Mrs. Jumbo, and Timothy Mouse -- apparently slid right by the political correctness brigade.

Oh, and people were also pissed that the roustabouts were black.  I personally never worked with a traveling circus in the early 1940's, but I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest that the manual labor force was not a model of progressive ethnic diversity.
Well, Uncle Tom is a pretty sympathetic character too- broad stereotypes and embarrassing portrayals are bad for being dehumanizing, not for making characters unlikable (although I don't want to think through the idea of dehumanizing anthropomorphic crows.) People shouldn't dismiss great art because it has queasy elements, though; even Birth of a Nation, which rivals Triumph of the Will for horrible politics, is worth watching for what makes it good, regardless of all the stuff in it that's bad.

And old school Disney animation is lovely. Fantasia, for instance- I don't actually care for the conceit in a lot of parts, since I find it annoying not to be able to think of a classical piece without dancing hippos getting involved, but it's visually amazing. And the part with the demon king of night is among the best things I've ever seen.
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: Pak-Man on November 17, 2006, 05:02:28 PM
Hey. Now we're getting somewhere! OK. Anyone have a problem with Disney's Alice in Wonderland?
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: Sharktopus on November 17, 2006, 05:04:52 PM
Hey. Now we're getting somewhere! OK. Anyone have a problem with Disney's Alice in Wonderland?

Only that it's bears only a passing resemblance to the books. The movie's okay on its own - but it could be much better.
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: Steve-O on November 17, 2006, 05:55:35 PM
Well, Uncle Tom is a pretty sympathetic character too- broad stereotypes and embarrassing portrayals are bad for being dehumanizing, not for making characters unlikable (although I don't want to think through the idea of dehumanizing anthropomorphic crows.)

True enough.  My point is that, for allegedly being blatantly racist, the crows come off as more intelligent, creative, and decent, than any other supporting character in the film.  Yeah, there are some elements of the characterizations that border on cheap stereotypes, but I think you'd be hard-pressed to find many films made before World War II that don't dip into that well.  In Dumbo's case, I see no malice in it.

People shouldn't dismiss great art because it has queasy elements, though; even Birth of a Nation, which rivals Triumph of the Will for horrible politics, is worth watching for what makes it good, regardless of all the stuff in it that's bad.

I couldn't agree more.

I also think it's important that the sketchy elements remain in place for their historical value.  If the zeitgeist of the early 20th century was that a little casual racism was perfectly acceptable, it's important that people be able to witness that through the arts.  If it inspires the audience to regret or outrage, all the better.  Whitewashing over the ugly truth doesn't do anybody any good. 

You have to know which direction you came from if you don't want to accidentally end up back there.
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: mrbasehart on November 17, 2006, 06:18:44 PM
Alice in Wonderland is OK.  Dumbo and Pinocchio are better.

The scene in Pinocchio where his friend starts turning into a donkey scares the living crap out of me.
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: 6079SmithW on November 17, 2006, 06:44:37 PM
People shouldn't dismiss great art because it has queasy elements, though; even Birth of a Nation, which rivals Triumph of the Will for horrible politics, is worth watching for what makes it good, regardless of all the stuff in it that's bad.

I couldn't agree more.

I also think it's important that the sketchy elements remain in place for their historical value.  If the zeitgeist of the early 20th century was that a little casual racism was perfectly acceptable, it's important that people be able to witness that through the arts.  If it inspires the audience to regret or outrage, all the better.  Whitewashing over the ugly truth doesn't do anybody any good. 

You have to know which direction you came from if you don't want to accidentally end up back there.
Not to mention that old-timey racism is kind of funny at this point (see, for instance, all the Irish jokes on the Simpsons,) and laughing at racism is never a bad thing.
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: Minnesota on November 17, 2006, 06:51:41 PM
^^ might wanna rephrase that ::)
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: 6079SmithW on November 17, 2006, 06:57:23 PM
^^ might wanna rephrase that ::)
Huh? Any time people find racism absurd enough to be funny, it implies that they don't hold any of those racist precepts, and is therefore a good thing. Thus, laughing at racism is a good thing.
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: Variety of Cells on November 17, 2006, 07:19:40 PM
I think I understand what you are saying, but be careful, we don't want this to turn into another 9/11 debate.  Jokes about racism in general are funny, yes, because we don't hold those values.  But it's a different thing to laugh at graphic depictions of racism.  People being lynched isn't all that humorous. 
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: 6079SmithW on November 17, 2006, 07:27:53 PM
I think I understand what you are saying, but be careful, we don't want this to turn into another 9/11 debate.  Jokes about racism in general are funny, yes, because we don't hold those values.  But it's a different thing to laugh at graphic depictions of racism.  People being lynched isn't all that humorous. 
Oh, ok. I see what you're saying. Yeah, the effects of racism are almost never funny, but the idiotic ideas people used to hold generally are. Fair?
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: Pak-Man on November 17, 2006, 08:28:26 PM
Well look at All in the Family. Archie Bunker was a complete and total racist and the audience laughed. Not because he was right, but because he was so very wrong. It's that kinda funny. :^)
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: WouTar on November 18, 2006, 05:34:35 PM
People being lynched isn't all that humorous. 

Are you saying we should just let the black man rule our world!?

(http://www.americanlynching.com/images/pic10.gif)

Look at the evil, man, the evil!

... No, lynching is never funny. This mentioning of lynching has rekindled my loathing of the stereotypical "SOUTHERN MAN!".
You know the kind...

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/70/HatfieldClan.jpg)

"Come on children, come sit around your brother-dad and his wife-daughter. And you, stranger, get off my property!"
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: Variety of Cells on November 18, 2006, 07:00:20 PM
Hmm, fighting racism with more racism.

That reminds me, I find it humorous that the term "fighting fire with fire" is now a legitimate option.  I'm sure it was first used to make a point, because all you are going to do by throwing fire at fire is create more fire.  But now you'll hear generals say "sometimes you have to fight fire with fire", completely ignorant of what they are saying, and everyone goes along with it.  I'm not saying it isn't true for some situations, but pick another phrase already.
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: 6079SmithW on November 18, 2006, 07:05:27 PM
Hmm, fighting racism with more racism.

That reminds me, I find it humorous that the term "fighting fire with fire" is now a legitimate option.  I'm sure it was first used to make a point, because all you are going to do by throwing fire at fire is create more fire.  But now you'll hear generals say "sometimes you have to fight fire with fire", completely ignorant of what they are saying, and everyone goes along with it. 
Here's your ticket pack your bag: time for jumpin' overboard
The transportation is here
Close enough but not too far, Maybe you know where you are
Fightin' fire with fire
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: Sharktopus on November 19, 2006, 12:43:15 AM
Hmm, fighting racism with more racism.

That reminds me, I find it humorous that the term "fighting fire with fire" is now a legitimate option.  I'm sure it was first used to make a point, because all you are going to do by throwing fire at fire is create more fire.  But now you'll hear generals say "sometimes you have to fight fire with fire", completely ignorant of what they are saying, and everyone goes along with it.  I'm not saying it isn't true for some situations, but pick another phrase already.

That's an excellent point that I've never considered. It's sort of like "gyp" or "Paddy wagon." Nobody thinks about the derivation of those terms when they use them, which is still pretty frequent. Did you see Clerks 2, and Randall's obliviousness to the meaning of "porch monkey"? I'd bet that we may just forget the conotations of the dreaded N-word within the next century.
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: Winterkid on November 19, 2006, 12:48:45 AM
That reminds me, I find it humorous that the term "fighting fire with fire" is now a legitimate option.  I'm sure it was first used to make a point, because all you are going to do by throwing fire at fire is create more fire.  But now you'll hear generals say "sometimes you have to fight fire with fire", completely ignorant of what they are saying

When they say "fighting fire with fire", they mean lighting backfires and controlled fires to help it burn itself out, I am pretty sure.

To be racist isn't in my nature, I like to think, but I do agree some races are well-known for certain abilities or common traits.
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: Sharktopus on November 19, 2006, 01:04:22 AM
When they say "fighting fire with fire", they mean lighting backfires and controlled fires to help it burn itself out, I am pretty sure.

To be racist isn't in my nature, I like to think, but I do agree some races are well-known for certain abilities or common traits.


I remember some stand-up comic talking about how stereotypes exist for a reason, and they usually have good modifiers tacked on to them. "Asian men mayhave tiny wangs but they're great at math, and black guys may never shut up at the movies, but they've got huge wangs. And yeah, there may be twenty Mexicans in that one truck, but they're all going to work, aren't they?"
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: 6079SmithW on November 19, 2006, 01:32:20 AM
When they say "fighting fire with fire", they mean lighting backfires and controlled fires to help it burn itself out, I am pretty sure.

To be racist isn't in my nature, I like to think, but I do agree some races are well-known for certain abilities or common traits.


I remember some stand-up comic talking about how stereotypes exist for a reason, and they usually have good modifiers tacked on to them. "Asian men mayhave tiny wangs but they're great at math, and black guys may never shut up at the movies, but they've got huge wangs. And yeah, there may be twenty Mexicans in that one truck, but they're all going to work, aren't they?"
The ironic thing is that 'postitive' stereotypes are in some ways just as harmful as the obviously negative ones. I had an Asian friend in high school who constantly wound up feeling like shit because he was terrible at math.

I used to worry about the phrase "call a spade a spade", since that's an middling-obscure racial epithet, but apparently it derives from some Latin saying about spoons or something and is safe.
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: WouTar on November 19, 2006, 04:29:33 AM
To be racist isn't in my nature, I like to think, but I do agree some races are well-known for certain abilities or common traits.

Agreed.
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: Cap'n UKRiffer on November 19, 2006, 07:12:21 AM
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/70/HatfieldClan.jpg)

How come every guy with a gun is holding it towards another guys head (usually a kid) with the exception of the guy with the rifle whose aiming at the guys nuts?
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: WouTar on November 19, 2006, 10:19:02 AM
How come every guy with a gun is holding it towards another guys head (usually a kid) with the exception of the guy with the rifle whose aiming at the guys nuts?

Hehe, now that's just scary.
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: Killer Shrew on November 19, 2006, 11:59:01 AM

How come every guy with a gun is holding it towards another guys head (usually a kid) with the exception of the guy with the rifle whose aiming at the guys nuts?

OMG!  Laughed my ass off when I saw that.  Especially since there's not just one gun, but two.  One for each nut I guess.  But that guy is just asking for it.  Why is he standing there facing the guns?  One other thing to note, it almost looks like his hands are covering that region. Like he's expecting the guns to go off.
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: Cibernético II on November 19, 2006, 04:29:26 PM
I've only heard people say "paddy wagon" in movies and old cartoons
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: Bob on November 19, 2006, 04:44:12 PM
As a half irish, half german guy (an all american mutt), I find the term Paddy Wagon to be funny as there is probably some good reason for the term in the first place.    Jokes are okay, but real racist is horrible and the folks who think that way are just plain sick.   If I were black and coming of age in the 60's, I probably would have been a panther too.

Oh wait, what is the title of this thread?

Movies that everyone can like......

Millions......... a totally charming Danny Boyle film for the whole family.
A Christmas Story.......... classic american film.

Rent these two movies over the holidays and you and your family will be very happy.
Title: Re: Any movies we ALL like?
Post by: Sharktopus on November 19, 2006, 11:26:48 PM
As a half irish, half german guy (an all american mutt), I find the term Paddy Wagon to be funny as there is probably some good reason for the term in the first place.    Jokes are okay, but real racist is horrible and the folks who think that way are just plain sick.   If I were black and coming of age in the 60's, I probably would have been a panther too.

There's some debate as to whether "Paddy wagon" comes from a group of Irish cops going to the scene of a crime, or a group of Irish criminals being hauled away. I'm more fond of the latter - it gives me reason to be indignant. Move along now, nothin' ta see here.