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Title: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Zardoz! on January 27, 2008, 11:38:32 PM
I hope other people here are watching it, this show is beautiful..

The bit with the "incredible melting corpse" this week was a laugh riot.

I hope this show goes the distance, tho with a main character with terminal cance rit might be hard to get several seasons out of it...
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: bettertomorrowamy on January 28, 2008, 01:24:55 PM
I just downloaded the first show.  Gonna check it out.  I'll let you know.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: mrbasehart on January 28, 2008, 04:00:16 PM
Yeah, I think it's a great show.  Very funny.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Zardoz! on January 28, 2008, 09:30:05 PM
Yeah, I think it's a great show.  Very funny.

The look on the professor's face was just incredible, I mean I laughed so hard I was crying. The thing was the total essence of the scene was so horrible but they made it so funny I just had to laugh even harder.

I'm thinking of using that look as an avatar....
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: iv3rdawG on March 16, 2009, 04:21:55 PM
Man the first 2 episodes of this season have been so good. Fantastic show.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: iv3rdawG on February 03, 2010, 12:29:23 PM
(http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/9460/tumblrkx9crveh7r1qz7f9t.jpg)
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Post by: D.B. Barnes on February 03, 2010, 12:48:07 PM
Awesome! Thanks for the heads up.

It seems like it's been years since this was on. I'm gonna have to watch the first two seasons again to get ready.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: iv3rdawG on June 17, 2010, 04:51:25 PM
Is really no one watching this? It's easily in the top five shows on TV right now. This last season was really great and that last episode was just devastating (namely from when Walt and Jessie meet up at the Lazer Tag place to the very end).

Also:

http://www.bettercallsaul.com/
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: bettertomorrowamy on June 17, 2010, 05:29:06 PM
It good.  Me likey.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: spaceforarent on June 17, 2010, 06:45:31 PM
I don't know I never posted here, but yea, I started watching it right around the time season 3 started. It quickly became one of my favorite shows. Can't wait for season 4 to start, but I hope they end the series after it. I think I read an interview where that was the plan, just one or two more seasons after 3.

Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: TeamRAD on April 14, 2011, 08:01:19 AM
Got the email this morning, season 3 is FINALLY coming to DVD/Blu Ray...in June. Preorder is up, and the price is pretty good! Only $35 for the BD.


Has AMC announced when it will be returning this coming Summer?

Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: spaceforarent on April 14, 2011, 08:04:52 AM
Got the email this morning, season 3 is FINALLY coming to DVD/Blu Ray...in June. Preorder is up, and the price is pretty good! Only $35 for the BD.


Has AMC announced when it will be returning this coming Summer?


From what I've found it won't start until July.


Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: TeamRAD on April 14, 2011, 08:11:13 AM

That's cool. I cannot wait to see what Gus' reaction is to the events that went down during the conclusion of the S3 finale. And the cartel's coming, woohoo!!

 
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Nunyerbiz on April 14, 2011, 08:30:13 AM
This is a show that I have to get back into at some point... My wife and I rented the first season and watched the entire thing over the course of a vacation week... and then watched probably half of the second season. The acting is great across the board, and there are brilliant moments of black comedy and suspense, but in general it just didn't stick with me. Maybe it's that I've seen this "character with nothing to lose will do stpuid shit" premise before and it doesn't impact as it should... or maybe that season two seemed to lose much of the black comedy spark that kept me interesting over that week of watching the first season... and when that dark comedy and suspense are absent, it struck me as a talkative bland drama... I dunno... I guess I'll need to revisit it down the road, everybody seems to praise the thing, so maybe I was just missing something.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: TeamRAD on April 14, 2011, 11:43:45 AM

That's odd, I never saw any absence or lack-thereof the dark humor after the first season, and it's definitely a ton of the BB appeal for me. Regarding the conceit of the show, it's fascinating watching the Walter/Heisenberg dynamic at work, and while the end goal of the character may not be anything new (eventually becoming a kingpin), the journey to date has been thrilling.

Season 3 is just ridiculously good...the cousins, "Fly", Hank's outcome, IFT, Pinkman's innocence, the fleshing out of Gus & Sal, and the coolest motherfucker in Albuquerque....Mike:

http://www.youtube.com/v/dETwGcVESwg?fs=1

...and Badger returns! I envy anyone that gets to sit through the third season for their first time.   :)

Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Thrifty on April 26, 2011, 10:26:14 AM
I just got into this show.  I got the first season one disc at a time, from Netflix.  Because this was too slow, and because I am a dirty thief, I torrented seasons 2 and 3.  Because the torrent does not have subtitles and there's a lot of Spanish dialogue, I bought a legit copy of season 3 through Amazon video.  Watched the last episode of season 3 this morning.  Incredible show.  Every episode is another moral line in the sand that's just  few inches past the last one.  It never seems like the situation has gone that far because it's so gradual, but it's really crazy now. 

I hope season 4 wraps it up.  I hate that I have to wait 2 and a half months for more!
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: TeamRAD on May 07, 2011, 08:06:32 PM

By chance, Thrifty, have you seen this yet? Tell me this wouldn't be the greatest Saturday morning cartoon, ever?

http://www.youtube.com/v/55ANBJksgrE?fs=1


Super.Champion.Individuals.Eradicating.(K)nown.Criminal.Entities.

Wassssssupppppp!


So much amazing...



Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: TeamRAD on June 14, 2011, 05:20:42 PM

(http://c181321.r21.cf0.rackcdn.com/PHdvU3ZPP1nshe_1_m.jpg)



Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: D.B. Barnes on June 21, 2011, 01:29:40 PM
July 17th can't come soon enough.

(http://media.amctv.com/photo-gallery/BB-S4-Studio-Photos/Group-Shot-1.jpg)


Between this and Futurama, this summer won't completely blow on the tube.


http://www.youtube.com/v/IUXvNd6pyD4?version=3&hl=en_US

http://www.youtube.com/v/j_QocNpae44?version=3&hl=en_US
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Thrifty on June 23, 2011, 08:06:38 AM
There's one thing I keep going over in my mind.  Jesse didn't want to kill Gail.  He was really upset at the prospect even up to the point of the act.  Walter found it distasteful, but not seemingly as much as Jesse.  That's why Walter volunteered to do it and Jesse only did it because Walter couldn't. 

But what does Jesse gain by doing this?  Nothing.  Killing Gail was done so that Gus would need Walter to cook for him.  Gus may be furious at Walter, but is gonna keep him alive out of necessity.  He has no reason to care about Jesse.  So Jesse's on the run from Gus, and at the same time has to live with the burden of the murder on his conscience.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: TeamRAD on June 28, 2011, 12:46:54 AM

19 days.

Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Thrifty on July 06, 2011, 11:28:22 AM
The heck?  It's not here yet?  HURRY THE FUCK UP JULY 17TH.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: D.B. Barnes on July 06, 2011, 12:10:07 PM
The heck?  It's not here yet?  HURRY THE FUCK UP JULY 17TH.


(http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lmlfa6SUGU1qb0v4ro1_400.jpg)

"I think we have grounds for a class action suit against those bastards at Gregorian, Inc."
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Thrifty on July 06, 2011, 12:41:31 PM
I had dreams about this.  Dreams!  That I was watching a TV show!  In my dream, the writers decided to forget that the whole conflict with Gus ever happened and the season opened up on some sort of lavish party Walt was throwing with his riches.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Thrifty on July 11, 2011, 03:39:59 AM
OH SHIT GUYS 6 DAYS.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Bob on July 11, 2011, 04:17:59 PM
I am going to start season 1, disc 1 from netflix tonight.   I hope to be caught up to current season in a few months.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: TeamRAD on July 15, 2011, 09:13:02 PM

It's Breaking Bad weekend, yo!

Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Bob on July 15, 2011, 09:17:55 PM
Just finished season one........wow, I cannot believe I did not catch this the first time around.

Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: TeamRAD on July 15, 2011, 09:26:08 PM

Your fun has just begun, sir.

Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: D.B. Barnes on July 17, 2011, 12:57:20 PM
TONIGHT'S THE NIGHT!!!

I'VE BEEN UP FOR 72 HOURS SNORTING BLUE CRANK OFF A HUNTING KNIFE AND I AM SUPER FUCKING PUMPED FOR THE SEASON PREMIERE!!!
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: torgosPizza on July 17, 2011, 04:32:45 PM
Bahahaha.

Can't wait!
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Thrifty on July 17, 2011, 05:12:17 PM
Just finished season one........wow, I cannot believe I did not catch this the first time around.

You'll probably be skeptical when I tell you this, but it gets better.

A lot better.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Thrifty on July 17, 2011, 07:09:05 PM
Oh boy this don't look good for Jesse.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Thrifty on July 17, 2011, 07:27:56 PM
Enough of this shit with Skylar.  Get back to Walter and Jesse!
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Thrifty on July 17, 2011, 07:36:47 PM
Viewer discretion warning!  Now we know it's gonna get good!

Gus's silence makes him all the more terrifying.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Thrifty on July 17, 2011, 07:44:15 PM
OH SHIT DIDN'T SEE THAT COMING.

Seriously.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: spaceforarent on July 17, 2011, 07:46:51 PM
OH SHIT DIDN'T SEE THAT COMING.

Seriously.
I did, pretty much from the moment he started putting on the lab gear.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Thrifty on July 17, 2011, 07:52:08 PM
OH SHIT DIDN'T SEE THAT COMING.

Seriously.
I did, pretty much from the moment he started putting on the lab gear.
I figured Walt and Jesse would be the targets.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Thrifty on July 17, 2011, 08:00:11 PM
Jesse seems to be taking this in stride.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Thrifty on July 17, 2011, 08:03:55 PM
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
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Post by: spaceforarent on July 17, 2011, 08:10:46 PM
Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: TeamRAD on July 17, 2011, 08:23:50 PM
Viewer discretion warning!  Now we know it's gonna get good!

Gus's silence makes him all the more terrifying.

Hand him a 2012 Emmy right now; that was lights-out scary. Giancarlo Esposito is just so amazing in this role.

OH SHIT DIDN'T SEE THAT COMING.

Seriously.

The moment Victor walked into Gale's apartment while being seen, he was a dead man. Mike all but confirmed that prior to his call to Gus asking him if he was seen.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

I kind of want to hit up a Denny's now.  :)

...and the premiere was well worth the wait.

Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: spaceforarent on July 17, 2011, 08:30:59 PM
Anyone else get laugh out of the Walking Dead "sneak preview". A guy kills two zombies in no context what-so-ever.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: TeamRAD on July 17, 2011, 08:34:44 PM

Yeah, I eh-o-lled.

:D

Helluva a sneak-preview, I tell you.





Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: D.B. Barnes on July 18, 2011, 09:39:42 AM
Great episode. Has this show ever had anything even close to a bad episode? I can't think of one.

I did find Skylar's whole trip with the locksmith pretty annoying, but other than that, I thought it was awesome. Gus in the lab was a Tour de Force. I haven't seen that gnarly a scene on television in a long time. Intense doesn't even begin to describe that scene. Just fantastic.

Jesse does seem to be taking things in stride, but I'm not sure exactly what's going on in his head. Did he just snap and check out emotionally? Or did he consciously resign himself to the fact he's a cold-blooded killer stuck in a very deadly situation and he's just gonna roll with it.

Is it next Sunday yet?
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Thrifty on July 18, 2011, 11:07:10 AM
Jesse does seem to be taking things in stride, but I'm not sure exactly what's going on in his head. Did he just snap and check out emotionally? 

I think so.  I read somewhere that his story arc for the 4th season will be coping with what he did and the moral event horizon that he just crossed.  My guess is that he's in sort of an early shock / denial phase.  At this point, it's still been less than a day since he did the deed.  I wouldn't be surprised if he has a relapse.

I wonder how Saul's gonna turn out.  He was definitely freaking out.  I'm getting this feeling that he thinks "I got greedy and I'm in way over my head here.  I gotta find a way out."

The scene from next week, with Walt saying "get me in a room with him".  I wonder who he's talking about.  Seems like he can't get near Gus.  Maybe Mike?
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: spaceforarent on July 18, 2011, 11:25:14 AM
I've assumed it will be Gus ever since I first heard him say that. From the previews for this season it seems like he is going to try taking over everything. Though I guess with Mike around even if he did something to Gus it still wouldn't end well for him. Maybe an entirely new character will be introduced?
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Thrifty on July 18, 2011, 11:37:22 AM
Gus is a drug kingpin.  How the heck is Walter gonna get anywhere near him, especially with a weapon, and especially after what happened last season?
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: spaceforarent on July 18, 2011, 11:43:15 AM
I assume that is what we would find out. I mean, he has to do [something] about Gus, otherwise he's a dead man. Maybe it will be more of a mind games thing, take down everyone Gus has working for him so that he no longer has that feeling of "control". I haven't watched season 3 more than once, but wasn't that a major thing with him?
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: D.B. Barnes on July 18, 2011, 02:06:14 PM
I wonder how Saul's gonna turn out.  He was definitely freaking out.  I'm getting this feeling that he thinks "I got greedy and I'm in way over my head here.  I gotta find a way out."

Almost forgot about Odenkirk's excellent performance as super-paranoid Saul! Good stuff, especially when he's on the pay phone with Skylar. That might be the best acting we've seen out of Odenkirk yet. And yeah, he is scared shitless; sounds as if he plans on skipping the country.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: bta on July 18, 2011, 03:30:04 PM
Best part of this show is how the guest stars are just as good or better than the main actors.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: goflyblind on July 19, 2011, 05:59:57 PM
gus is serious business.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Thrifty on July 19, 2011, 06:36:41 PM
Ugh.  This is the worst part of Breaking Bad.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: D.B. Barnes on July 19, 2011, 06:58:09 PM
Ugh.  This is the worst part of Breaking Bad.

It does make the week seem longer, doesn't it?
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Bob on July 24, 2011, 07:35:40 AM
Okay, just finished my marathon of Breaking Bad and all caught up.    I CANNOT believe I was really unaware of this show for the past few years.

That was some amazing stuff....... really too much to comment on.   But the ending of Season 3 was pretty amazing.   I have learned from Walt to always know the addresses of people that may be in my way.

Gus's stare when he wants something scares the crap out of me.  Hank is one bad mother when you consider who he took out without a weapon.   I know the woman who plays Skyler was not actually pregnant during season 2 (she work a fake belly), but did she just have a baby in real life?    After watching seasons 1-3 in pretty short fashion, she seems to have noticable gotten larger. 

The bummer part will now be having to wait an ENTIRE week between episodes.   Seriously, that will suck, yo!

On a related note, I am going to be starting up my home brewing again this fall and a friend of mine says he wants to be my assistent.   I told him fine, as long as I can call him Jesse Pinkman when we are brewing and he has to call me Mr. White.   He does not watch the show so the joke is kind of lost on him, but I will enjoy it.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: goflyblind on July 24, 2011, 08:17:49 AM
can i be your gus?
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Bob on July 24, 2011, 08:25:04 AM
can i be your gus?

I cannot think of a single downside to having a Gus....... oh, wait.

Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Thrifty on July 28, 2011, 09:49:24 AM
I guess Walt is going after Gus after all.  Looks like it's gonna be harder than he expected.

Poor Jesse.  I could tell from the moment that Badger and Skinny Pete showed up what was going to happen.  He's trying to escape from himself through drugs and partying.  All that money, and he can't buy peace of mind.  The scene with him squeezing his head right after the partiers left spoke volumes.

I hate this subplot with the car wash.  The owner doesn't want to sell it to Walt?  Fine.  Go to the laser tag place.  Problem solved!
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Bob on July 28, 2011, 12:23:56 PM
I guess Walt is going after Gus after all.  Looks like it's gonna be harder than he expected.

Poor Jesse.  I could tell from the moment that Badger and Skinny Pete showed up what was going to happen.  He's trying to escape from himself through drugs and partying.  All that money, and he can't buy peace of mind.  The scene with him squeezing his head right after the partiers left spoke volumes.

I hate this subplot with the car wash.  The owner doesn't want to sell it to Walt?  Fine.  Go to the laser tag place.  Problem solved!

Agreed on all counts!

I have a feeling that Mike might come around, but that would be pretty risky for Mike to turn on his boss like that.   And the car wash sub plot best be setting up something bigger.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Kete on July 28, 2011, 12:36:11 PM
I just started watching.  I'm two episodes into Season 2.  I really should have started a while ago. 
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Thrifty on July 28, 2011, 12:41:11 PM
Badger is one of my favorite characters.  I think it's his weird voice.

I just broke down and ordered seasons 1-3 on DVD.  I already saw them, but they could use a rewatch and I think this show is good enough to merit inclusion in my DVD collection.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Bob on July 28, 2011, 12:42:28 PM
I am for sure going to order the DVDs......
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: D.B. Barnes on August 03, 2011, 10:20:07 AM
Breaking 8-Bit

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-gJvQzSidBtg/Ti7DhkXUjqI/AAAAAAAABWw/bXXd-_S8BfI/s1600/Breaking+Bad+iotacons.png)
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Kete on August 15, 2011, 10:26:27 AM
I'm about halfway through season 3.  I love this show.  I can't wait to get caught up.

I've been trying hard to avoid spoilers, but I've already had a few.  Fastforwarding through the first episode of season 4, I saw that someone died (I was trying to see the Walking Dead preview).  I also heard a big one on the Doug Loves Movies podcast last week.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Thrifty on August 15, 2011, 10:36:46 AM
I didn't catch last night's episode yet, but have it recorded on my DVR.  I was watching the first season on DVD this weekend.  Bryan Cranston gives some very funny commentary.

"Vince, please tell me there's a sex scene between Walter and Carmen coming up."
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Bob on August 15, 2011, 10:38:40 AM
That is why I want to get the blu-rays......I did not watch any of the commentaries or behind the scenes stuff as I was so interested in blasting through to get caugh up.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Thrifty on August 15, 2011, 07:20:37 PM
The extras are a real treat.  You watch this show and forget how funny Bryan Cranston is.  Which is stupid, because he really got his start in comedy.  I wish more than 1 season of Malcolm in the Middle was on DVD.

I saw last night's episode.  I don't quite get what Gus is doing with Jesse.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: TeamRAD on August 17, 2011, 08:51:22 PM

The shit just got real,yo. I loved the foreshadowing w/ Walt slowly uncorking the bottle of wine. This show can't do anything wrong.

"Shotgun" had too much win it.

Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Thrifty on August 18, 2011, 04:57:47 AM
There was some pretty big foreshadowing last week with Saul's mention of the service that could make Walt disappear.  I have a feeling that's gonna come into play at the end of the season.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Bob on August 18, 2011, 05:05:53 AM
Dying to know what ploy Gus is unfolding.......
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: TeamRAD on August 18, 2011, 09:37:12 AM
There was some pretty big foreshadowing last week with Saul's mention of the service that could make Walt disappear.  I have a feeling that's gonna come into play at the end of the season.

I don't know what Gilligan's intentions were by giving us that bone. That out-pattern is much too convenient & clean for this show, and I'd be very surprised if it's utilized. Secondly, is there any possible way Walt's hubris will accept that scenario? Not gonna happen.

One more thing I'd like to add to the disappearing act Saul informed Walt about, the really fascinating aspect about that entire sequence was Saul not being aware just how deep he's involved in this game. That floored me; Saul being in over-his-head. Yet another neat dimension to his character.

Dying to know what ploy Gus is unfolding.......

I cannot wait to see what's gonna happen at Los Pollos Hermanos. You can't tell me Walt's belligerent appearance from "Shotgun" won't be discussed in Hank's investigation? The Season Four ride has officially begun.

:)

Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Kete on August 18, 2011, 09:53:31 AM
I'm almost caught up!  I watched the season 3 finale last night.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Thrifty on August 18, 2011, 09:59:58 AM
My DVR decided, as they often do, not to record the entire show.  So it cut off in the middle of Walt's speech near the end.  Last thing I remember was him saying that Gail's notebook seemed derivative, like he was copying someone else.  Good move by Walt to reopen a potentially dead case.  Did anything happen after that?

Jesse seems to be a person of interest in Gail's murder.  That doesn't seem good.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: iv3rdawG on August 18, 2011, 11:46:37 AM
Did anything happen after that?

Hank decided to go back and look at the case and Gale's notebook, sees that he buys all his food oragnic, then notices that there's a picture of the Los Pollos Hermanos logo and thinks it's weird that he'd have that.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Thrifty on August 18, 2011, 06:00:32 PM
I'm watching the 2nd episode of season 2, the one where Tuco kidnaps Walt and Jesse. 

God, Tuco is terrifying.  He's a total psycho.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Bob on August 18, 2011, 06:56:09 PM
I'm watching the 2nd episode of season 2, the one where Tuco kidnaps Walt and Jesse. 

God, Tuco is terrifying.  He's a total psycho.

Oh I envy you and the things you are going to see soon!
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Thrifty on August 18, 2011, 07:04:24 PM
I'm watching the 2nd episode of season 2, the one where Tuco kidnaps Walt and Jesse. 

God, Tuco is terrifying.  He's a total psycho.

Oh I envy you and the things you are going to see soon!
I'm watching it a second time.  Haven't you been paying attention to my commentary on the current episodes?
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Bob on August 19, 2011, 06:11:54 AM
Oh yes, but I still envy you for seeing them again.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Thrifty on August 19, 2011, 06:51:16 AM
Jesse's parents are such total dicks.  I'm glad he gets his revenge on them.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Thrifty on August 20, 2011, 01:54:15 PM
I forgot how hilarious Saul's first appearance was.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Thrifty on August 20, 2011, 03:09:41 PM
Is it just me, or was Marie unbearably annoying before the story arc where Hank got shot?
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: bta on August 20, 2011, 04:24:38 PM
Is it just me, or was Marie unbearably annoying before the story arc where Hank got shot?

She still is.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Kete on August 22, 2011, 09:37:10 AM
"I'm the one who knocks"

Good stuff.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Thrifty on August 22, 2011, 05:01:29 PM
"I'm the one who knocks"

Good stuff.
Yeah.  The was a real tour de force by Bryan Cranston.  He really seems to be unravelling.  That thing he did to Bogden with the framed dollar bill was a serious dick move.

I don't get how the money laundering is supposed to work though.  Gus pays Walt 15 million dollars a year.  Is the IRS going to believe that a Car Wash makes 15 million in revenue each year?
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Kete on August 22, 2011, 05:40:50 PM
"I'm the one who knocks"

Good stuff.
Yeah.  The was a real tour de force by Bryan Cranston.  He really seems to be unravelling.  That thing he did to Bogden with the framed dollar bill was a serious dick move.

I don't get how the money laundering is supposed to work though.  Gus pays Walt 15 million dollars a year.  Is the IRS going to believe that a Car Wash makes 15 million in revenue each year?

I just assumed that they would stick all the cash in a convertible and drive in through the car wash.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: D.B. Barnes on August 24, 2011, 12:55:05 PM
 :) ...wait...  :(

AMC Renews Breaking Bad for 16 Final Episodes (http://www.comingsoon.net/news/tvnews.php?id=81043)

Quote
AMC announced today that "Breaking Bad," the Emmy Award-winning and critically lauded drama series from acclaimed writer/producer/director Vince Gilligan has been renewed for a 16 episode order that will conclude the series. Production on all episodes of the final order will commence in early 2012. The roll-out of the episodes and premiere date schedule has yet to be determined by the network. The announcement was made by Charlie Collier, president of AMC.

"Breaking Bad's" fourth season premiered on Sunday, July 18th to the highest ratings ever for the series. "From the day we heard Vince Gilligan's completely original vision for 'Breaking Bad,' it has been a complete joy to be involved with this show. Watching this story evolve into the complex, compelling, and intense roller coaster ride that it has become has been an incredible creative experience for everyone at AMC. Beyond that, working with Vince, his brilliant cast and crew, and our wonderful partners at Sony has been remarkable in every way. While it is sad to even contemplate the end of this series, we are so happy to have had the chance to go on this ride, and truly look forward to presenting the rest of this amazing story," said Collier.

"It's a funny irony -- I'd hate to know the date of my own last day on earth, but I'm delighted to know what Walter White's will be (episodically speaking). This is a great gift to me and to my wonderful writers. It's knowledge which will allow us to properly build our story to a satisfying conclusion. Now, if we don't manage to pull that off, we've got no one to blame but ourselves," said Vince Gilligan. "'Breaking Bad' has been a dream job these past four years. Working with the best cast and crew in television has no doubt spoiled me for future projects. I'm lucky to get to work with them on sixteen more episodes, and I will always be grateful to both AMC and Sony Television, who from the beginning, believed in our show and supported me creatively and professionally. We have been able to take risks with 'Breaking Bad' which would not have been possible on other networks."

"We've watched 'Breaking Bad' grow over the years with viewers, as championed by the unwavering support of critics and the well deserved accolades Vince and his talented actors have received. We're looking forward to seeing Vince's masterful storytelling come fully to fruition over the course of the series' final episodes," said Zack Van Amburg, President, programming for Sony Pictures Television.


Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Thrifty on August 24, 2011, 01:22:22 PM
I meant to post that.  I can't wait for it all to be over, to see how it all pans out.  I wonder if Hank will ever find out about Walt.  Or if Gus will ever be killed or thrown in jail.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Bob on August 24, 2011, 02:33:02 PM
Wow, I bet AMC hates to lose a show like that......
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Bob on August 29, 2011, 03:27:34 PM
Oh boy, Hank is on the scent and he has the DEA interested too.

All this is coming to a head soon!
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Kete on August 30, 2011, 08:44:08 AM
One thing I never understood is that Jesse was under investigation, but Gus still let him work at the laundry.  All the cops would have to do is put a tail on him, and he'd lead them right to Gus.  It's pretty dumb on everyone's part.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Bob on August 30, 2011, 08:52:22 AM
One thing I never understood is that Jesse was under investigation, but Gus still let him work at the laundry.  All the cops would have to do is put a tail on him, and he'd lead them right to Gus.  It's pretty dumb on everyone's part.

Were the police really looking at Jesse that hard?   I was thinking it was more Walt.   With police budgets the way they are, they may not have had any money to get a "mole" into the laundry to snoop around.   With what they had, they could not have gotten a search warrant anyway.   Plus, I think the equpment is designed in such a way the police may not have known how to find the underground facility.   

Bin Laden hid in plain sight for a long time and no one noticed.

Then again, they have to have a certain level of "suspension of disbelief".

I wonder how many layers of protection Gus has between him and his drug lab, cartel meetings, etc?   

My guess is the feds are tracking the cartels and that is how they would probably nail Gus in real life.   Or the cartels just turn him in directly.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Thrifty on August 30, 2011, 09:10:45 AM
I thought that Hank kinda gave up on looking at Jesse pretty quickly.  I can understand him not wanting to go near Jesse himself, after that whole fiasco with the RV and the wrecker and the beating the shit out of Jesse.  Still, you would think the police would have had him as a person of interest given his connection to the blue meth.

I loved the scene in the trailer where Jesse struggles with the decision to slip the ricin in the coffee pot, then doesn't, and a minute later they explicitly cut to a shot of Gus taking a sip of coffee.

Jesse really lost it at the rehab meeting.  You could see the counseler guy trying harder and harder to extend an olive branch, to stop short of telling Jesse what he had done was awful, but Jesse just wouldn't have it.  Then he told them all he was only there to sell crystal meth.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Thrifty on August 30, 2011, 09:11:22 AM
Also, I guess Skylar was thinking the same thing I was about the car wash money laundering scheme.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Bob on August 30, 2011, 09:16:04 AM
Also, I guess Skylar was thinking the same thing I was about the car wash money laundering scheme.

She seems to be in WAY over here head.   Well, everyone is in over their heads, but her especially.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Kete on August 30, 2011, 09:18:08 AM
One thing I never understood is that Jesse was under investigation, but Gus still let him work at the laundry.  All the cops would have to do is put a tail on him, and he'd lead them right to Gus.  It's pretty dumb on everyone's part.

Were the police really looking at Jesse that hard?   I was thinking it was more Walt.   With police budgets the way they are, they may not have had any money to get a "mole" into the laundry to snoop around.   With what they had, they could not have gotten a search warrant anyway.   Plus, I think the equpment is designed in such a way the police may not have known how to find the underground facility.   

Bin Laden hid in plain sight for a long time and no one noticed.

Then again, they have to have a certain level of "suspension of disbelief".

I wonder how many layers of protection Gus has between him and his drug lab, cartel meetings, etc?   

My guess is the feds are tracking the cartels and that is how they would probably nail Gus in real life.   Or the cartels just turn him in directly.

Yeah, it seems like Hank was the only one worried about Jesse and the blue meth, but I don't think that Walt and Gus knew that.  The DEA is tailing Jesse one day, and the next Jesse's allowed into the secret underground facility.  I don't think that they could possibly know that no one else at the DEA would be following up on it.

I still feel really bad about Gale.  They couldn't have picked a better actor to play him.  I've felt bad for him since Flight Of The Conchords, and some of that pity has carried over to this.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Bob on August 30, 2011, 09:41:33 AM
Well, if it is any consolation, the guy who plays Gale plays a slimey newspaper editor in the last series of "The Wire"!

But yeah, Gale got a raw deal.   Then again, maybe he should not have been involved with drug dealers in the first place.   I do love how Gale's notebook seems like it is going to be everyone's undoing.

Cannot wait to see how this all plays out.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Kete on August 30, 2011, 10:00:48 AM
Well, if it is any consolation, the guy who plays Gale plays a slimey newspaper editor in the last series of "The Wire"!

But yeah, Gale got a raw deal.   Then again, maybe he should not have been involved with drug dealers in the first place.   I do love how Gale's notebook seems like it is going to be everyone's undoing.

Cannot wait to see how this all plays out.

I just finished watching the Wire last night.  I interpreted his character as being a weakling who lived to please the guy in the suspenders.

Spoiler: from The Wire (click to show/hide)
Look at him.  He can't stand that Scott is getting all of Suspender's attention.  I still feel bad for him.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Bob on August 30, 2011, 10:06:17 AM
(posting here as I think there is a big spoiler in the Wire thread)

Yeah, when I see him, I think of Gail too.

And yes, I am TEMPTED to go to HBOGO and watch the finale.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Kete on August 30, 2011, 10:09:58 AM
(posting here as I think there is a big spoiler in the Wire thread)

Yeah, when I see him, I think of Gail too.

And yes, I am TEMPTED to go to HBOGO and watch the finale.

Don't worry, that's not a spoiler in The Wire thread.  Thrifty was just making a joke.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Thrifty on August 30, 2011, 10:15:48 AM
(posting here as I think there is a big spoiler in the Wire thread)

Yeah, when I see him, I think of Gail too.

And yes, I am TEMPTED to go to HBOGO and watch the finale.

Don't worry, that's not a spoiler in The Wire thread.  Thrifty was just making a joke.
Yeah, that's why I went so over the top with it.  Real spoilers would be hidden behind a spoiler tag.  I'm not a sociopath.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Bob on August 30, 2011, 10:20:06 AM
(posting here as I think there is a big spoiler in the Wire thread)

Yeah, when I see him, I think of Gail too.

And yes, I am TEMPTED to go to HBOGO and watch the finale.

Don't worry, that's not a spoiler in The Wire thread.  Thrifty was just making a joke.
Yeah, that's why I went so over the top with it.  Real spoilers would be hidden behind a spoiler tag.  I'm not a sociopath.

Just to be sure, I'm watching you.

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Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Kete on August 31, 2011, 08:04:58 AM
Check this out.  There was a drug bust in my neighborhood yesterday.  My wife drove through the middle of it taking the kids to school.  Tell me if you think any of this sounds familiar:
Quote from: http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=148&sid=17041901
The Drug Enforcement Agency scored a big victory in Salt Lake County Tuesday.

Agents were able to finish a long-term investigation into a Mexican drug ring working within the Salt Lake Valley and took down the people they were looking for.

During the 1 1/2-year-long investigation, agents seized more than $500,000 worth of drugs. But more importantly, they say they've knocked down a cell of drug cartel operating in California, Nevada and in Utah.

"We brought the case down by arresting the main target," explained Sue Thomas, supervisory special agent for the DEA.

Agents issued multiple search warrants across the Salt Lake area, one of which was at the Mi Ranchito restaurant in South Salt Lake. Thomas said they seized a significant amount of drugs from these combined seizures.

 
During their investigation into the Sinaloa cartel, DEA agents have seized over 30 pounds of methamphetamine, a pound of heroin and a kilo of cocaine.
"[We seized] roughly over 30 pounds of methamphetamine, a pound of heroin and a kilo of cocaine," she said.

The drugs, along with $322,000 cash, are now in the custody of the federal government.

DEA Assistant Special Agent in Charge Frank Smith says during the 18-month investigation his agents arrested more than 30 people — including 7 Tuesday at various places across the valley.

One of the most public arrest happened at the Mi Ranchito restaurant at 3600 S. State Street in South Salt Lake. Investigators say one of the restaurant owners was in a command role in the cartel cell.

"Sometimes individuals are not what they appear, and we had some what people thought were legit business people that ran what seemed to be legitimate businesses here and we affected a couple of arrests at businesses across town," Smith said.


Agents say they knocked down a cell of the Sinaloa cartel by arresting people in key roles. They describe the highest ranking ones as multi-pound traffickers.

"When you can arrest command and control structure of any cartel, that's hard to replace," Smith said.

Combined with busts of massive marijuana growing operations in the southern part of the state, officials say they're taking stand against the cartel working their way into Utah.

"We think if we have staunch enforcement and we draw the line in the sand, we'll be able to prevent it," Smith said.

The names of those arrested are not being released yet, and agents expect more arrests — including some in Mexico.

Also, the DEA agent in charge is named Frank:
(http://img851.imageshack.us/img851/6347/frankn.jpg)
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Bob on August 31, 2011, 08:26:29 AM
That is an amazing conincidence.......   It sounds JUST LIKE "Sex in the City 2"
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Kete on August 31, 2011, 08:36:01 AM
That is an amazing conincidence.......   It sounds JUST LIKE "Sex in the City 2"
Especially since it takes place in Salt Lake.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: TeamRAD on September 01, 2011, 11:18:28 AM
Jesse really lost it at the rehab meeting.  You could see the counseler guy trying harder and harder to extend an olive branch, to stop short of telling Jesse what he had done was awful, but Jesse just wouldn't have it.  Then he told them all he was only there to sell crystal meth.

I'm sure glad Dinklage's getting his Emmy this year, b/c Paul wrapped it up for '12 after the above concluded at the N/A meeting. Oh my god, that was incredible.

Also, I guess Skylar was thinking the same thing I was about the car wash money laundering scheme.

How so exactly? I was surprised they hadn't talked about how much he brings in annually prior to the car-wash acquisition. That was more than just a tad bit short-sighted.  

So, what does the cartel want w/ Walt exactly? And Walt Jr. being offered a job by Gus?!! That alone is awesome, but playing w/ the notion that Walt Jr. does indeed work there in the near future, will Hank and/or Walt use him as an inside guy? Come on, they gotta have Walt Jr. do more than eat breakfast!

...and Hank is the mother-fucking man! Welcome back, big-guy!!

Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Kete on September 01, 2011, 11:49:42 AM
If you have to go to all the hassle of owning a business that can appear to make as much as you made illegally, why not just do things legally?  I've never understood why career criminals do what they do.  It seems like too much work and too much stress.  I'll take my legit office job that let's me make dumb comments on internet forums.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: TeamRAD on September 01, 2011, 12:00:01 PM

Kete, you and I would make awful criminals.

:)

Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Thrifty on September 01, 2011, 01:01:18 PM
If you have to go to all the hassle of owning a business that can appear to make as much as you made illegally, why not just do things legally?  I've never understood why career criminals do what they do.  It seems like too much work and too much stress.  I'll take my legit office job that let's me make dumb comments on internet forums.

Because it's only appearing to make money.  Gus isn't actually making 90 million a year through his shell companies.  He'd likely make much less, and have to know something about running those businesses.  As is, he just needs to know how to lie.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Thrifty on September 01, 2011, 01:05:18 PM
Also, I guess Skylar was thinking the same thing I was about the car wash money laundering scheme.

How so exactly? I was surprised they hadn't talked about how much he brings in annually prior to the car-wash acquisition. That was more than just a tad bit short-sighted.  

She was thinking about how it would be implausible for a car wash to take in 7.5 million dollars a year.

So, what does the cartel want w/ Walt exactly?

Hmm?  They seem more interested in Gus, and getting back at him for that stunt he pulled turning the DEA against them last season.  The only interest they ever had in Walt was Tuco's cousins killing him.  I'm not getting any notion that this has anything to do with Walt.  The only peron after him would be Gus.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: TeamRAD on September 01, 2011, 01:38:16 PM
So, what does the cartel want w/ Walt exactly?

Hmm?  They seem more interested in Gus, and getting back at him for that stunt he pulled turning the DEA against them last season.  The only interest they ever had in Walt was Tuco's cousins killing him.  I'm not getting any notion that this has anything to do with Walt.  The only peron after him would be Gus.

Yeah, you're probably right. If they wanted Walt, they could just grab him.

Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Bob on September 01, 2011, 01:57:14 PM

Kete, you and I would make awful criminals.

:)



And poor sociopaths.   Fortunately, that is NOT a problem for me........
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: TeamRAD on September 09, 2011, 09:34:48 AM

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Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Thrifty on September 12, 2011, 01:58:20 PM
I liked Skylar's blonde bimbo ploy to get Ted off the hook with the IRS.  It looks like she's thinking of paying the IRS with Walt's drug money too.  Walt would be furious if he found out.

How badass was that shootout at the processing plant, with Gus walking right into the hail of bullets?
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Kete on September 12, 2011, 02:03:00 PM
I really hate it when Walt talks down to Jesse.  I'm bothered that he doesn't remember that Jesse killed Gale for him.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Thrifty on September 12, 2011, 02:17:57 PM
I really hate it when Walt talks down to Jesse.  I'm bothered that he doesn't remember that Jesse killed Gale for him.

Me too.  That's why it was nice to see Walt get beat up for a change.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: spaceforarent on September 12, 2011, 03:13:47 PM
I really hate it when Walt talks down to Jesse.  I'm bothered that he doesn't remember that Jesse killed Gale for him.
They were going to kill Jesse too. He killed Gale for both of them. Walt killed two people for Jesse last season. Sure they were guilty while Gale had really done nothing wrong but he still basically saved Jesse's life.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Bob on September 12, 2011, 04:11:59 PM
Gus in real life would scare the crap out of me.

I just KNOW that Gus is not going to give in to the cartels..... he has something up his sociopath sleeves.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Thrifty on September 12, 2011, 04:39:44 PM
I really hate it when Walt talks down to Jesse.  I'm bothered that he doesn't remember that Jesse killed Gale for him.
They were going to kill Jesse too. He killed Gale for both of them. Walt killed two people for Jesse last season. Sure they were guilty while Gale had really done nothing wrong but he still basically saved Jesse's life.
Jesse's life never would have been in danger and they wouldn't have had to kill Gale if Walt had just made the ricin when Jesse asked.

So are you guys thinking what I'm thinking in regards to Skylar's subplot?  That she's going to front Ted the money he owes the IRS, then he repays her, thus laundering about 800 grand through Beneke's company?  How is she going to explain that money?  Maybe cook the books so it looks like the money came from within the company?  But then the money never comes back to her.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Bob on September 12, 2011, 05:15:28 PM
I really hate it when Walt talks down to Jesse.  I'm bothered that he doesn't remember that Jesse killed Gale for him.
They were going to kill Jesse too. He killed Gale for both of them. Walt killed two people for Jesse last season. Sure they were guilty while Gale had really done nothing wrong but he still basically saved Jesse's life.
Jesse's life never would have been in danger and they wouldn't have had to kill Gale if Walt had just made the ricin when Jesse asked.

So are you guys thinking what I'm thinking in regards to Skylar's subplot?  That she's going to front Ted the money he owes the IRS, then he repays her, thus laundering about 800 grand through Beneke's company?  How is she going to explain that money?  Maybe cook the books so it looks like the money came from within the company?  But then the money never comes back to her.

Yup!
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: David on September 12, 2011, 05:46:49 PM
I really hate it when Walt talks down to Jesse.  I'm bothered that he doesn't remember that Jesse killed Gale for him.
They were going to kill Jesse too. He killed Gale for both of them. Walt killed two people for Jesse last season. Sure they were guilty while Gale had really done nothing wrong but he still basically saved Jesse's life.
Jesse's life never would have been in danger and they wouldn't have had to kill Gale if Walt had just made the ricin when Jesse asked.

So are you guys thinking what I'm thinking in regards to Skylar's subplot?  That she's going to front Ted the money he owes the IRS, then he repays her, thus laundering about 800 grand through Beneke's company?  How is she going to explain that money?  Maybe cook the books so it looks like the money came from within the company?  But then the money never comes back to her.

This will answer your question:

http://www.amctv.com/breaking-bad/videos/breaking-bad-sneak-peek-episode-410-salud

(Scene from next episode)
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: TeamRAD on September 15, 2011, 09:01:11 AM
How badass was that shootout at the processing plant, with Gus walking right into the hail of bullets?

That was REALLY badass.

I really hate it when Walt talks down to Jesse.  I'm bothered that he doesn't remember that Jesse killed Gale for him.

Totally, but that made Pinkman's beatdown of him that much more satisfying.

"Can you walk?"

I really hate it when Walt talks down to Jesse.  I'm bothered that he doesn't remember that Jesse killed Gale for him.
They were going to kill Jesse too. He killed Gale for both of them. Walt killed two people for Jesse last season. Sure they were guilty while Gale had really done nothing wrong but he still basically saved Jesse's life.
Jesse's life never would have been in danger and they wouldn't have had to kill Gale if Walt had just made the ricin when Jesse asked.

So are you guys thinking what I'm thinking in regards to Skylar's subplot?  That she's going to front Ted the money he owes the IRS, then he repays her, thus laundering about 800 grand through Beneke's company?  How is she going to explain that money?  Maybe cook the books so it looks like the money came from within the company?  But then the money never comes back to her.

Yes, and I sense when Walt learns of it, it will be the end of Ted, literally.

Gus in real life would scare the crap out of me.

I just KNOW that Gus is not going to give in to the cartels.....

I hope Walt counters by going to the cartels w/ his formula and cannot picture any other scenario where that doesn't play out.

Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Bob on September 15, 2011, 09:06:02 AM

Gus in real life would scare the crap out of me.

I just KNOW that Gus is not going to give in to the cartels.....

I hope Walt counters by going to the cartels w/ his formula and cannot picture any other scenario where that doesn't play out.



That WOULD make sense and I can see how the Walt/Jesse/Cartel storyline would play out next year....... but that only means we are wrong.

And yeah, Ted is dead man walking.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Thrifty on September 15, 2011, 09:14:13 AM
I want to say that Walt would never be so brazen as to murder someone not involved with the drug trade, who he has clear and documented motive for murdering (Skylar's affair with Ted and Walt's outburst at Ted's office are well known), but after killing Gail, he crossed the moral event horizon.  I can see Walt slipping Ted some ricin just for revenge.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Bob on September 15, 2011, 09:15:50 AM
I dont see Walt doing the killing, but someone like Mike or the Cartels to protect their interest (Walt not going to jail).
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Thrifty on September 15, 2011, 09:21:45 AM
I dont see Walt doing the killing, but someone like Mike or the Cartels to protect their interest (Walt not going to jail).
I don't see any reason for the cartels or Mike to get involved in Walt's petty personal dispute.  Why would they care if the CEO of some failing business used Walt's money to pay the IRS?
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Bob on September 15, 2011, 09:32:35 AM
I dont see Walt doing the killing, but someone like Mike or the Cartels to protect their interest (Walt not going to jail).
I don't see any reason for the cartels or Mike to get involved in Walt's petty personal dispute.  Why would they care if the CEO of some failing business used Walt's money to pay the IRS?

I am guessing because they may snoop into HOW an unemployed teacher had all that money.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: TeamRAD on September 15, 2011, 09:41:54 AM
I can see Walt slipping Ted some ricin just for revenge.

You know, someone really needs to die from the ricin at some point in the series. Man, we're going on three seasons!

:)



Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Thrifty on September 15, 2011, 09:48:51 AM
I can see Walt slipping Ted some ricin just for revenge.

You know, someone really needs to die from the ricin at some point in the series. Man, we're going on three seasons!

:)

Chekov's poison.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Bob on September 15, 2011, 09:53:53 AM
I can see Walt slipping Ted some ricin just for revenge.

You know, someone really needs to die from the ricin at some point in the series. Man, we're going on three seasons!

:)

Chekov's poison.

Wonder if they are saving that for the series final or it is just a tease by now.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: TeamRAD on September 15, 2011, 09:55:42 AM
I can see Walt slipping Ted some ricin just for revenge.

You know, someone really needs to die from the ricin at some point in the series. Man, we're going on three seasons!

:)

Chekov's poison.

Wait, the gun Sterling gives Cyril? In that case, that isn't good news for Wendy! Archer's back tonight, yes!!

Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Bob on September 18, 2011, 08:03:20 PM
That was bad ass!
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: TeamRAD on September 20, 2011, 05:49:07 AM
Gus in real life would scare the crap out of me.

I just KNOW that Gus is not going to give in to the cartels.....

I hope Walt counters by going to the cartels w/ his formula and cannot picture any other scenario where that doesn't play out.

Well played, Mr. Gilligan. Well played.  :D

So who thought the cartel would be erased by this point in the series? Unreal, and the coolest thing I'll see in any medium this year. That was incredible watching that final act to "Salud" unfold.

And not only did Walt Jr. choose breakfast over lunch but also, driving. Fuck, does he like breakfast!

:)

Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Kete on September 20, 2011, 07:13:25 AM
A PT Cruiser?  Man!  What is Skyler's problem?
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Thrifty on September 20, 2011, 07:24:01 AM
I kinda fell asleep in the middle, so I only saw the beginning and end, and I'm not sure what was real and what was a dream.  Did Skylar actually tell Ted that she provided the money?

Actually I have it recorded on DVR, and if my roommate ever leaves the house for an hour, I can watch it.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Bob on September 20, 2011, 09:16:21 AM
Curious to see how Jesse handles (by himself!) getting Mike and Gus out of Mexico safely.   I have a strange feeling he will be calling Mr. White.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Thrifty on September 20, 2011, 09:25:51 AM
Curious to see how Jesse handles (by himself!) getting Mike and Gus out of Mexico safely.   I have a strange feeling he will be calling Mr. White.
Gus probably has some sort of safehouse in Mexico where he and Mike can recuperate.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: TeamRAD on September 20, 2011, 10:15:16 AM
A PT Cruiser?  Man!  What is Skyler's problem?

Seriously, just how much more was the Charger than that?

I kinda fell asleep in the middle, so I only saw the beginning and end, and I'm not sure what was real and what was a dream.  Did Skylar actually tell Ted that she provided the money?

Actually I have it recorded on DVR, and if my roommate ever leaves the house for an hour, I can watch it.

So you missed the Walt/Walt Jr. talk, and Walt referring to him as Jesse as Jr. left his place. That's going to be called-back. Secondly, Jesse dressing down the cartel's chemist before making Walt's meth and rocking a 96.2. One can only imagine just how much higher the percentage would've been if he was working in Gus' megalab. He's more legit than Gale. Lastly, I'm unsure how much of the Ted stuff you saw from the episode, but the Saul stuff was great as always while Skyler messed up, big time, w/ her reveal to Ted.

You missed some good stuff, man.   :)

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Post by: Bob on September 20, 2011, 10:19:47 AM
Yeah, watch that one again!
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Kete on September 20, 2011, 10:25:48 AM
Jesse dressing down the cartel's chemist before making Walt's meth and rocking a 96.2.

I wasn't sure, but was Jesse mad about the 96.2?
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Bob on September 20, 2011, 10:35:06 AM
Jesse dressing down the cartel's chemist before making Walt's meth and rocking a 96.2.

I wasn't sure, but was Jesse mad about the 96.2?

He was uber-releaved!  That meant, he wont be killed right then and there.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: TeamRAD on September 20, 2011, 10:37:04 AM
Jesse dressing down the cartel's chemist before making Walt's meth and rocking a 96.2.

I wasn't sure, but was Jesse mad about the 96.2?

Nope, his initial reaction was more on the line of "How do you like me now, bitch?". According to Gale, the best he could do w/ the meth-purity was 96%, hence Gus' approval shot when the results were revealed, too.

Jesse's come a long ways.



Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Kete on September 20, 2011, 10:51:50 AM
I still think he was disappointed because it wasn't higher.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Thrifty on September 21, 2011, 12:53:55 PM
I think that despite his earlier insistence that "I'm not in danger, I AM the danger", Walt is rapidly being alienated from Gus's organization.  He is getting increasingly frustrated at his inability to control the situation.  Not just because he fears for his life but because he's not use to being unable to outsmart people.

Also.

"Don Eladio is dead!  You have nothing left to fight for!  Fill your pockets and leave in peace!  Or fight me, and die!"
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Bob on September 21, 2011, 01:07:59 PM

"Don Eladio is dead!  You have nothing left to fight for!  Fill your pockets and leave in peace!  Or fight me, and die!"

I SO want to use that phrase in meetings at work.
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Post by: Thrifty on September 26, 2011, 03:33:21 AM
Missed out on the last 20 minutes yesterday after the cable cut out, but I just now bought this on Amazon instant video.

Holy crap, I'm actually trembling from the last few minutes of that episode.
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Post by: Bob on September 26, 2011, 04:32:38 AM
I have no idea how they are going to wrap up this season......

Oh Ted....   :D
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Thrifty on September 26, 2011, 06:49:16 AM
I'm more curious how they're going to have another season after all that's going down in this one.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Bob on September 26, 2011, 07:24:35 AM
I know, the last 20 minutes of last night flew by in a blink of an eye.  It seemed like a season finale...... but there is more to come.   Man, they pack a lot into these shows.

And, oh Ted!
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Thrifty on September 26, 2011, 07:31:27 AM
In a lesser show, Ted's almost comical death would have been a jump the shark moment.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Thrifty on September 26, 2011, 08:46:31 AM
Gus is really holding all the cards now.  Seems like Walt's only play is to come clean to the DEA and be a cooperating witness and go into witness protection.

"I will kill your wife and your son and your little baby girl."
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Post by: Bob on September 26, 2011, 08:50:39 AM
I have no idea what Walt has up his sleeve......but I bet it is clever.

And Gus asking Walt "what did you say?!" when they were in the desert was one scary sight.
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Post by: Kete on September 26, 2011, 08:57:57 AM
It seems like Gus is giving Walt an out, and he's not taking it.  Is it just because of Hank?  Gus said that he would resolve the issue with Hank, but I doubt that means killing Hank.  If he killed Hank that would just draw unwanted attention to what Hank was investigating, and instead of a lone agent looking at Gus, it would be the entire DEA office. 

Gus is very fortunate to have an "inside guy" with Walt, but he's not using it.  If Walt and Gus would only establish a better communication, Gus could know of every move that Hank makes, be able to counter, and clear his name.
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Post by: Thrifty on September 26, 2011, 09:01:52 AM
I have no idea what Walt has up his sleeve......but I bet it is clever.

I don't think he has anything up his sleeve.  That's why he was having a nervous breakdown and laughing like a maniac in the crawl space.
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Post by: Bob on September 26, 2011, 09:44:31 AM
I have no idea what Walt has up his sleeve......but I bet it is clever.

I don't think he has anything up his sleeve.  That's why he was having a nervous breakdown and laughing like a maniac in the crawl space.

I am guessing he had a moment of clarity there when he stopped his break down.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Thrifty on September 26, 2011, 10:43:32 AM
It seems like Gus is giving Walt an out, and he's not taking it.  Is it just because of Hank?  Gus said that he would resolve the issue with Hank, but I doubt that means killing Hank.  If he killed Hank that would just draw unwanted attention to what Hank was investigating, and instead of a lone agent looking at Gus, it would be the entire DEA office. 

Gus is very fortunate to have an "inside guy" with Walt, but he's not using it.  If Walt and Gus would only establish a better communication, Gus could know of every move that Hank makes, be able to counter, and clear his name.

What out did Gus give Walt?  He clearly only stopped at firing Walt (instead of killing him) because Jesse wouldn't cook for him if Gus has Walt killed.  It was more of a begrudgingly given stay of execution.  It's clear that Gus is confident Jesse will eventually stop caring and he can move forward with the execution.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Kete on September 26, 2011, 11:10:08 AM
It seems like Gus is giving Walt an out, and he's not taking it.  Is it just because of Hank?  Gus said that he would resolve the issue with Hank, but I doubt that means killing Hank.  If he killed Hank that would just draw unwanted attention to what Hank was investigating, and instead of a lone agent looking at Gus, it would be the entire DEA office. 

Gus is very fortunate to have an "inside guy" with Walt, but he's not using it.  If Walt and Gus would only establish a better communication, Gus could know of every move that Hank makes, be able to counter, and clear his name.

What out did Gus give Walt?  He clearly only stopped at firing Walt (instead of killing him) because Jesse wouldn't cook for him if Gus has Walt killed.  It was more of a begrudgingly given stay of execution.  It's clear that Gus is confident Jesse will eventually stop caring and he can move forward with the execution.

I don't think that Gus is that heartless.  Despite the box cutter, I think he only kills when it's necessary.
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Post by: spaceforarent on September 26, 2011, 03:23:24 PM
It seems like Gus is giving Walt an out, and he's not taking it.  Is it just because of Hank?  Gus said that he would resolve the issue with Hank, but I doubt that means killing Hank.  If he killed Hank that would just draw unwanted attention to what Hank was investigating, and instead of a lone agent looking at Gus, it would be the entire DEA office. 

Gus is very fortunate to have an "inside guy" with Walt, but he's not using it.  If Walt and Gus would only establish a better communication, Gus could know of every move that Hank makes, be able to counter, and clear his name.

What out did Gus give Walt?  He clearly only stopped at firing Walt (instead of killing him) because Jesse wouldn't cook for him if Gus has Walt killed.  It was more of a begrudgingly given stay of execution.  It's clear that Gus is confident Jesse will eventually stop caring and he can move forward with the execution.

I don't think that Gus is that heartless.  Despite the box cutter, I think he only kills when it's necessary.
Yet he said he would kill Walt's entire family, even an infant, if he interfered with Hank. That would be totally unnecessary. In fact, Walt pretty much did him a huge favor with the cartel lie, now Hank can't continue investigating and his death won't draw attention to Gus.
There's still two Chekhov guns that have been introduced and not used, one actually being the gun Walt bought and the other being the Ricin. Wonder if/how they are used.
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Post by: Bob on September 26, 2011, 03:25:22 PM
My guess is Ricin is somehow used the the series finale next year.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Thrifty on September 26, 2011, 04:35:35 PM
My guess is Ricin is somehow used the the series finale next year.
Maybe someone will actually consume some.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Thrifty on September 26, 2011, 04:39:10 PM
It seems like Gus is giving Walt an out, and he's not taking it.  Is it just because of Hank?  Gus said that he would resolve the issue with Hank, but I doubt that means killing Hank.  If he killed Hank that would just draw unwanted attention to what Hank was investigating, and instead of a lone agent looking at Gus, it would be the entire DEA office. 

Gus is very fortunate to have an "inside guy" with Walt, but he's not using it.  If Walt and Gus would only establish a better communication, Gus could know of every move that Hank makes, be able to counter, and clear his name.

What out did Gus give Walt?  He clearly only stopped at firing Walt (instead of killing him) because Jesse wouldn't cook for him if Gus has Walt killed.  It was more of a begrudgingly given stay of execution.  It's clear that Gus is confident Jesse will eventually stop caring and he can move forward with the execution.

I don't think that Gus is that heartless.  Despite the box cutter, I think he only kills when it's necessary.
Yet he said he would kill Walt's entire family, even an infant, if he interfered with Hank. That would be totally unnecessary. In fact, Walt pretty much did him a huge favor with the cartel lie, now Hank can't continue investigating and his death won't draw attention to Gus.
There's still two Chekhov guns that have been introduced and not used, one actually being the gun Walt bought and the other being the Ricin. Wonder if/how they are used.
Except Gus killed the head of the cartel and several of his lieutenants.  The DEA is bound to find that out soon (about them being dead, not about Gus being responsible), and will find something fishy about the anonymous tip that Saul called in.
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Post by: D.B. Barnes on October 03, 2011, 01:05:48 AM
Holy shit. I can't breathe.

Seriously, this show is gonna give me a fucking panic attack!
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Thrifty on October 03, 2011, 07:20:00 AM
Looks like somebody finally used ricin.

I was on to Gus's ploy the second Andrea mentioned Brock was showing flu-like symptoms.  Gus is a mad genius.
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Post by: D.B. Barnes on October 03, 2011, 11:57:00 AM
I can't remember an episode of any show that featured that many palpably-intense moments. The spinning hospital scene; the Jesse/Walt showdown; the parking garage. Jesus, I was a total wreck after watching this. I can't even imagine what's gonna go down in the finale. Well, I can imagine, but whatever happens, you know it's gonna be off-the-charts intense.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Thrifty on October 03, 2011, 12:49:52 PM
I can't remember an episode of any show that featured that many palpably-intense moments. The spinning hospital scene; the Jesse/Walt showdown; the parking garage. Jesus, I was a total wreck after watching this. I can't even imagine what's gonna go down in the finale. Well, I can imagine, but whatever happens, you know it's gonna be off-the-charts intense.

I would say that there's no way they can top this week, but I say that every week and am constantly proven wrong.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: D.B. Barnes on October 03, 2011, 12:53:21 PM
I can't remember an episode of any show that featured that many palpably-intense moments. The spinning hospital scene; the Jesse/Walt showdown; the parking garage. Jesus, I was a total wreck after watching this. I can't even imagine what's gonna go down in the finale. Well, I can imagine, but whatever happens, you know it's gonna be off-the-charts intense.

I would say that there's no way they can top this week, but I say that every week and am constantly proven wrong.

Absolutely. I was so floored at the end of episode 11 and yet I was twitching at the end of this last episode. Like Bob said, it really had a finale feeling, albeit a huge cliffhanger finale.

This is television at its highest form.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Kete on October 03, 2011, 12:54:04 PM
When Walt says that Gus is always 10 steps ahead, I can't help but think that Gus knew that Walt would try to tip off Hank.  I don't know how he would benefit, but I think he is still playing Walt.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Thrifty on October 03, 2011, 04:28:49 PM
Did you all see the sneak preview from next week?  Looks like Jesse is going to turn informant after Walt's botched hit.

Next week is the season finale, which you know is going to end with some mind blowing cliffhanger and we'll have to wait 9 months for the resolution.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: D.B. Barnes on October 03, 2011, 04:36:45 PM
Did you all see the sneak preview from next week?  Looks like Jesse is going to turn informant after Walt's botched hit.

Next week is the season finale, which you know is going to end with some mind blowing cliffhanger and we'll have to wait 9 months for the resolution.

I just hope I survive the episode without suffering an infarction.

I already can't wait for next season's premiere! That's gonna be a rough nine months.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Bob on October 03, 2011, 05:24:56 PM
Yeah, that scene with Gus walking slowly to the car, stopping, looking around, all while Walter is spying on him....... good stuff.

When Jesse asks Gus what he is going to do and he said "Something appropriate", that actually sent a tingle down my spine.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Thrifty on October 09, 2011, 02:10:08 PM
Season finale tonight.  Two things are certain.

1) It will be incredible.
2) It will end in some cliffhanger that we have to wait months to see the resolution to.

I'm thinking Walt and Jesse are going to be able to turn Mike against Gus.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Bob on October 09, 2011, 02:23:26 PM
Season finale tonight.  Two things are certain.

1) It will be incredible.
2) It will end in some cliffhanger that we have to wait months to see the resolution to.

I'm thinking Walt and Jesse are going to be able to turn Mike against Gus.

That is my guess.....especially when he saw how expendable he was in the Mexican makeshift hospital
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: D.B. Barnes on October 09, 2011, 02:28:00 PM
Season finale tonight.  Two things are certain.

1) It will be incredible.
2) It will end in some cliffhanger that we have to wait months to see the resolution to.

I'm thinking Walt and Jesse are going to be able to turn Mike against Gus.

That is my guess.....especially when he saw how expendable he was in the Mexican makeshift hospital

I can't remember ever being this psyched for a season finale.

I wonder if anyone is gonna die. I'm thinking not given that they just killed off Ted, but then again, I wouldn't be surprised. I'm picturing Mike turning on Gus in a Vader/Emperor type moment.

Whatever happens, this is gonna be AWESOME!!!
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: eegah on October 09, 2011, 06:23:05 PM
We just finally got caught up with the last three episodes. Holy crap, that was an intense three hours! Hopefully we can calm down enough before the finale later tonight. 

Every time throughout the entire series that I thought I would be disappointed with the show, I have been proven spectacularly wrong (happily, of course). Hopefully the finale will be no exception.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Bob on October 09, 2011, 06:25:48 PM
I wonder if they will have enough nerve to kill off Jesse and set the last season as Walter going dark and trying to get at Gus?

I honestly have NO idea what to expect and I am cannot wait.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Bob on October 09, 2011, 08:13:28 PM
Wow....... and of course, I did not see ANY of that coming.   Not a bit.
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Post by: Thrifty on October 09, 2011, 08:15:17 PM
(http://thebluewhalepub.com/images/smilies/jawdrop.gif)

I'm trembling.  Holy shit.  Right after the explosion, I was like "HOLY SHIT".  
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They seemed to wrap up an awful lot of loose ends.  How are they going to pull off a 5th season?  Season 2 and season 3 ended with very clear cliffhangers, and you could see what they would be building from in the next season.  Here, we don't have much except maybe Mike's whereabouts and the lily of the valley closeup in the last shot.
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Post by: Bob on October 09, 2011, 08:20:54 PM

I'm trembling.  Holy shit.  Right after the explosion, I was like "HOLY SHIT".  
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Yeah, that was beyond bad-ass and I did not see that coming at all.   It all just happened so fast, I had to rewind and watch that several tmes.

And the zoom in of the plant at the end..... very nice.

And for next season?    The entire universe is opened to them of how they are going to go with it.   I cannot wait.   Do we really have to wait months and months?
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Post by: eegah on October 09, 2011, 08:37:34 PM
Awesome! But I do have a couple of questions:

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Post by: lassieface on October 09, 2011, 08:46:16 PM
Awesome! But I do have a couple of questions:

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Post by: spaceforarent on October 09, 2011, 09:38:21 PM
That was surprisingly not that tense for a finale from this show. Still absolutely amazing though. Really wondering where they go from here though. I'm expecting a war between Jesse and Walt.
And now that we find out the ricin still hasn't been used, I have a theory that Walt will use it on himself to end the series. He poisoned a kid, so eventually he must realize he has pretty much completely lost it and want to go out in a way that protects his family and Jesse. No one will really question a man with cancer dieing of seemingly natural causes.
I hope I'm completely wrong though just so they can completely surprise me with something awesome.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Kete on October 09, 2011, 09:54:34 PM
When I realized that the trigger was in the bell, I knew that Gus was going to die.  You can't have a set up that cool without following through.

I'm surprised how they wrapped up so many loose ends.  I wonder if they weren't sure if they would have a 5th season.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: eegah on October 10, 2011, 06:27:08 AM
Awesome! But I do have a couple of questions:

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Post by: Bob on October 10, 2011, 06:51:44 AM
So, the cartel is gone, the old school cartel is gone, Gus is gone, the meth lab is destroyed...... however, nature hates a vacuum, so I assuming that people will step in to replace the dead cartel members and will want someone to take over Gus's  distribution network.   Mike is still around too.   

I do know that if Jesse ever finds out what Walt did to his girl friend and the kid, he will go nuts.   But I do not see how he ever finds out unless Walt tells him.   

My guess is both Walt and Jesse get brought back into the lab, either from the cartel pressure or just the need for money.    I don't see Hank just giving up on things either.

Then again, who know?
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Thrifty on October 10, 2011, 07:14:14 AM
Awesome! But I do have a couple of questions:

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Post by: Thrifty on October 10, 2011, 07:14:35 AM
Skylar: What happened?
Walt: ....I won.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: eegah on October 10, 2011, 07:32:23 AM
Awesome! But I do have a couple of questions:

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Post by: Bob on October 10, 2011, 08:20:32 AM

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Post by: D.B. Barnes on October 10, 2011, 01:02:19 PM
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Post by: iv3rdawG on October 10, 2011, 01:22:36 PM
http://www.youtube.com/v/lJWpFv-I96E?version=3&hl=en_US
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: D.B. Barnes on October 10, 2011, 01:41:07 PM
http://www.youtube.com/v/lJWpFv-I96E?version=3&hl=en_US

Thank you!

Powerful stuff. It seriously gives me chills and it was just perfect for the scene. The vocals make it even more powerful, although it's no wonder they didn't include them. Talk about a spoiler!

I'll have to check out more of their tunes.

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Post by: eegah on October 10, 2011, 03:12:19 PM
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Agreed

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Yeah, that was the only thing that kind of bothered me about the episode. I keep trying to convince myself that it wasn't bizarre and unrealistic, but I can't.

On another note, it was nice to see the humor element return in spades in the second half of the season. It has kind of disappeared at times during the series. To me, that is the real strength of the show.
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Post by: Bob on October 10, 2011, 03:18:34 PM
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Post by: D.B. Barnes on October 10, 2011, 04:54:22 PM
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Post by: Thrifty on October 14, 2011, 06:05:31 AM
Been thinking about the next season, and here's  what may happen.  I'll forego the spoiler tags because if someone is reading this and hasn't figured it out from all the previous spoilers, they kinda deserve to be spoilered.

Gus and Don Eladio and his cartel dead, and that creates a massive vacuum and dries up the supply of crystal meth in the American Southwest.  Somebody will step in to fill that void. 

The fire department will put out the fire in the lab, which will of course uncover it and vindicate Hank.  The laundry, Pollos Hermanos, and all of Gus's business will come under scrutiny.  Surviving managers of these businesses (especially the laundry) will be investigated.  This will happen, though I'm not sure I can see it making a good story.

Walt now owns a car wash, a paid off condo and house (I think he paid those off; I could be wrong) but after Skylar paid off Ted's IRS bill, and Walt bribed Saul's secretary, the man is broke.  He's also still got lung cancer, presumably, which is not fully cured but rather still in remission.  I'm thinking that Walt is going to go back to cooking crystal meth to support his family and pay his medical bills.  Without worrying about Gus, Walt will have to worry about staying one step ahead of Hank instead.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Bob on October 14, 2011, 06:39:19 AM
That makes total sense........... which means it probably wont happen that way.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Thrifty on October 14, 2011, 08:17:15 AM
I think Hank is going to pull a lot of "I told you so", at the DEA.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: eegah on October 15, 2011, 07:36:52 AM
I think Hank is going to pull a lot of "I told you so", at the DEA.

That will be the whole first episode. Hank dancing around (as best he can), wagging his fingers at everyone. NYAH NYAH NYAH NYAH!
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: D.B. Barnes on October 15, 2011, 01:12:36 PM
(http://lookatmeshirts.com/media/catalog/product/cache/26/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/p/o/pollos-hermanos-t-shirt.jpg) (http://lookatmeshirts.com/lookatme/los-pollos-hermanos.html)

Awesome!
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Bob on October 15, 2011, 02:02:57 PM
I'd love one of those shirts....
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Thrifty on October 15, 2011, 02:10:10 PM
I'd love one of those shirts....

You got $25.40 plus shipping (http://www.spreadshirt.com/-C3380A7341838)?
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: D.B. Barnes on October 15, 2011, 02:17:09 PM
I'd love one of those shirts....

You got $25.40 plus shipping (http://www.spreadshirt.com/-C3380A7341838)?

I am so getting the "Ask for Gus" shirt!
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Bob on October 15, 2011, 02:19:44 PM
I'd love one of those shirts....

You got $25.40 plus shipping (http://www.spreadshirt.com/-C3380A7341838)?

I am so getting the "Ask for Gus" shirt!

I will so own this, thanks
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: JimJ on October 15, 2011, 10:20:21 PM
In response to the question of how the ricin ended up going missing, Vince Gilligan confirmed that Jessie's original suspicions were correct, Huell lifted it off of him when he patted him down.  You can see him pocket something in this still:
(http://images3.cliqueclack.com/tv/files/2011/10/breaking-bad-huell.jpg)
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Post by: D.B. Barnes on October 18, 2011, 08:58:36 PM
AWESOME.

(http://i.imgur.com/qAFcC.png)
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Kete on October 18, 2011, 09:21:18 PM
Is that really Walt?  Holy crap, that is awesome!
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: D.B. Barnes on October 18, 2011, 09:33:04 PM
Is that really Walt?  Holy crap, that is awesome!

Apparently, they've dressed up for all the wrap parties.

(http://a1.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/10/5b540329657740aab3c893ff97731cc7/l.jpg)
Skinny Walt

(http://a2.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/1/bb5bff865ffa487bad10bacf235b3336/l.jpg)
Walt Pinkman

Jeese Cluckman and Hector White take the cake, though. Classic!
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Post by: spaceforarent on October 18, 2011, 09:44:12 PM
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Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Rick (of Ralph and) on October 18, 2011, 10:39:37 PM
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You don't say?
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Bob on October 19, 2011, 03:47:06 AM
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(http://s2.postimage.org/4s3mzy03o/bb_party.jpg)
You don't say?

Apparently he don't!
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Post by: D.B. Barnes on October 23, 2011, 09:15:56 AM
http://www.youtube.com/v/CtZpo89mmJo?version=3&hl=en_US
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Post by: Bob on October 23, 2011, 09:22:52 AM
 :D
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Post by: D.B. Barnes on October 23, 2011, 01:50:32 PM
These are fantastic!  :D

http://www.youtube.com/v/09xwj7L7-Z0?version=3&hl=en_US
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Post by: TeamRAD on October 27, 2011, 06:33:23 AM
Been thinking about the next season, and here's  what may happen.  I'll forego the spoiler tags because if someone is reading this and hasn't figured it out from all the previous spoilers, they kinda deserve to be spoilered.

Gus and Don Eladio and his cartel dead, and that creates a massive vacuum and dries up the supply of crystal meth in the American Southwest.  Somebody will step in to fill that void. 

The fire department will put out the fire in the lab, which will of course uncover it and vindicate Hank.  The laundry, Pollos Hermanos, and all of Gus's business will come under scrutiny.  Surviving managers of these businesses (especially the laundry) will be investigated.  This will happen, though I'm not sure I can see it making a good story.

Walt now owns a car wash, a paid off condo and house (I think he paid those off; I could be wrong) but after Skylar paid off Ted's IRS bill, and Walt bribed Saul's secretary, the man is broke.  He's also still got lung cancer, presumably, which is not fully cured but rather still in remission.  I'm thinking that Walt is going to go back to cooking crystal meth to support his family and pay his medical bills.  Without worrying about Gus, Walt will have to worry about staying one step ahead of Hank instead.

I beg to differ and predict his Chilean-past is going to come into play next year. That and I don't believe Ted's dead.

I didn't comment on the finale, but what else needs to be said that hasn't been already? It was phenomenal.

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Post by: D.B. Barnes on October 27, 2011, 02:01:05 PM
From imgur. Somebody took this waiting in line at a Chipotle.

(http://i.imgur.com/BJeRy.jpg)

The only thing that could make this any more awesome is if it was an El Pollo Loco.
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Post by: D.B. Barnes on December 15, 2011, 02:02:30 PM
YES!!!

http://www.youtube.com/v/t4Qv2hCprbs?version=3&hl=en_US[flash=200,200][/flash]
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Post by: bta on December 15, 2011, 02:25:48 PM
Awesome
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Post by: D.B. Barnes on May 21, 2012, 01:06:15 PM
AMC Sets Return Dates for Breaking Bad

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AMC on Monday announced return dates for the critical darling, which will kick off the first half of its final season on Sunday, July 15 at 10 p.m. with eight episodes, with the final half of the season returning in summer 2013.

A sixteen-episode season broken up into two seasons spread over a year. They're really gonna string us out, and you know what...I'm totally cool with that. Breaking Bad anticipation is a rush.
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Post by: Kete on May 21, 2012, 01:12:00 PM
Saul Goodman (Bob Odenkirk in character as Saul) was on this week's Comedy Bang Bang (http://www.earwolf.com/show/comedy-bang-bang-podcast/).  I haven't heard it yet, but I can only assume it's awesome.
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Post by: Bob on May 21, 2012, 01:21:17 PM
Woot!
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Post by: Thrifty on May 22, 2012, 01:31:27 PM
AMC Sets Return Dates for Breaking Bad

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AMC on Monday announced return dates for the critical darling, which will kick off the first half of its final season on Sunday, July 15 at 10 p.m. with eight episodes, with the final half of the season returning in summer 2013.

A sixteen-episode season broken up into two seasons spread over a year. They're really gonna string us out, and you know what...I'm totally cool with that. Breaking Bad anticipation is a rush.
I have to wait until the end of Summer 2013?

This was my first reaction (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31g0YE61PLQ).
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Post by: Bob on May 22, 2012, 01:34:33 PM
Well, season 4 comes out on DVD the first week of June!
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Post by: iv3rdawG on June 04, 2012, 10:44:40 AM
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Post by: Thrifty on June 04, 2012, 11:52:35 AM
Have I mentioned before how jarring it is to watch a few episodes of Breaking Bad followed by a few episodes of Malcolm in the Middle?  The mood whiplash is so intense.  I often find it hard to believe that Walter White and Hal are played by the same guy.
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Post by: iv3rdawG on June 04, 2012, 01:43:53 PM
http://www.youtube.com/v/XjqYlvUgJQ8
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: goflyblind on June 04, 2012, 02:11:44 PM
that was more entertaining than i thought it'd be. :)

gatorade me, pins.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Thrifty on June 04, 2012, 04:23:08 PM
July 15th?  That's 41 whole days!  I can't wait that long!
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: gbeenie on June 05, 2012, 01:54:21 PM
Hope this gets ironed out before July 15 (http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/envelope/cotown/la-et-ct-dishamcfeud-20120604,0,4463370.story). We JUST switched to DISH.
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Post by: JimJ on June 05, 2012, 03:28:28 PM
Hope this gets ironed out before July 15 (http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/envelope/cotown/la-et-ct-dishamcfeud-20120604,0,4463370.story). We JUST switched to DISH.

What a dick move to randomly move the channel like that. Not only does it screw the paying customers but also their own employees who had to deal with the angry calls.  And those calls HAD to be extremely angry considering they'd just had a Nickelback concert forced on them.
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Post by: D.B. Barnes on June 12, 2012, 01:16:07 PM
http://www.youtube.com/v/t0BuC2OrVIU?version=3&hl=en_US

Walt is scary as fuck.
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Post by: Space version 2.0 on June 12, 2012, 05:05:33 PM
I'm just worried that they are going to release two DVD/Blu Ray sets now, one for each half of the 5th season, but still charge $40 or whatever they are for each that I know I will still pay
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Post by: Thrifty on June 12, 2012, 07:29:57 PM
I'm just worried that they are going to release two DVD/Blu Ray sets now, one for each half of the 5th season, but still charge $40 or whatever they are for each that I know I will still pay
I don't think AMC would MacFarlane us like that.
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Post by: lassieface on June 14, 2012, 10:05:21 AM
I'm just worried that they are going to release two DVD/Blu Ray sets now, one for each half of the 5th season, but still charge $40 or whatever they are for each that I know I will still pay
I don't think AMC would MacFarlane us like that.

But they might "Sopranos" us like that or "Battlestar Galactica" us like that.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Thrifty on June 14, 2012, 10:19:17 AM
I'm just worried that they are going to release two DVD/Blu Ray sets now, one for each half of the 5th season, but still charge $40 or whatever they are for each that I know I will still pay
I don't think AMC would MacFarlane us like that.

But they might "Sopranos" us like that or "Battlestar Galactica" us like that.
Perhaps.  I think if they MacFarlaned us, the last season would be 16 episodes, with episodes 1-6 on one DVD set, episodes 7 and 8 on another, episodes 9-15 on a third, and the finale on a final set.
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Post by: D.B. Barnes on June 18, 2012, 02:19:06 PM
Latest teaser.

Don't open this unless you're all caught up!

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Post by: Bob on June 18, 2012, 03:19:33 PM
I saw that on AMC yesterday and loved it.   Great line too!
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Post by: D.B. Barnes on June 19, 2012, 01:38:03 PM
BREAKING BAD: THE MOVIE? IT COULD ACTUALLY HAPPEN…

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We know, we know.  Every TV show, from ‘Bored to Death‘ to ‘Community‘ talks about making the leap from TV to film once the episodes run out, but now ‘Breaking Bad‘ is throwing its porkpie hat into the ring.  One series star seems to think the AMC TV series, set to premiere its final season on July 15 is ripe for the big-screen treatment, but what are the actual odds?

Months ago, ‘Breaking Bad’ fans were dismayed to learn that series creator Vince Gilligan’s negotiations with AMC would drive the Bryan Cranston crystal meth drama into its final season, to be aired in two runs of eight episodes each, beginning on Sunday, July 15.  Sixteen episodes would certainly make for a conclusive end for Walter White, but now Bryan Cranston seems to think there might be a possibility of expanding into a feature-length movie afterward!

Speaking to The LA Times on series creator Vince Gilligan’s crafting of ‘Breaking Bad,’s final 16 episodes, Cranston said:

"Vince feels that now we have too much story. We could actually go beyond those 16 episodes, it’s not far-fetched.  I wouldn’t mind visiting that possibility."

And this is coming from a guy who doesn’t know anything of how the show’s going to end. If it doesn’t end up in a total apocalypse, who knows? Maybe we could revisit Walter White a year down the road and see where his life has gone. If he’s still alive, that is.

Between those new photos and clips we’ve been seeing of the series’ upcoming fifth season lately, one can never have to much ‘Breaking Bad.’  Still, given the nature of the character and the show itself, it would seem somewhat unlikely that Walter White would survive to make it to a full-length movie.  Maybe we’ll learn more at Comic-Con!

I have mixed feelings about this as an idea. I kinda like the idea of wrapping it up with amazing episode after amazing episode. For me, it just feels like an overall experience that should live out its existence in the medium in which it was conceived.
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Post by: D.B. Barnes on June 27, 2012, 01:51:32 PM
http://www.youtube.com/v/cQLzGmpmSj4?version=3&hl=en_US

Who's the king? That's right.
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Post by: Lembach on June 28, 2012, 02:26:35 AM
I came in on the Breaking Bad thing late. But this sort of worked out for the best.
A few weeks ago, I caught the rerun "Crazy Handful of Nothin" where he get's his money from Tuco using SCIENCE.
Man, I was hooked right then and there. I went and got all 4 seasons and watched them back to back over the course of a very weird week. It was great not having to wait on cliffhangers.

Gustavo Fring: best TV villain ever!  ;D
(http://i.imgur.com/P7vXm.jpg)

Look how that smile never touches his eyes! That is a dangerous man.
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Post by: D.B. Barnes on June 29, 2012, 06:43:27 PM
Breaking Bad LEGO, yo!

(http://i.imgur.com/MKHn2.jpg)
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Post by: Bob on June 29, 2012, 07:59:53 PM
I love my Los Pollos Hermanous t-shirt!
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Post by: Thrifty on July 11, 2012, 02:22:45 PM
So season premiere is this Sunday, right?  At 10 PM Eastern?
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Post by: D.B. Barnes on July 13, 2012, 10:01:47 PM
http://www.youtube.com/v/N4Ok68Y4cSQ?version=3&hl=en_US

Oh yeah. Bring it.
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Post by: Thrifty on July 15, 2012, 08:26:13 PM
It was an okay start to the season.  I liked the season 4 opener better.  The flash-forward was great.  Can't wait to see what that's all about.  Beneke looks like hell though.
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Post by: Bastard Poetry on July 16, 2012, 12:10:54 AM
My three word review of the premiere:

Fuckin' magnets, yo!
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Post by: Bob on July 16, 2012, 04:24:47 AM
The guy plays Mike is great!   I would not want him bad at me, that's for sure.

This will be a good season
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Post by: lassieface on July 16, 2012, 05:54:45 AM
It was an okay start to the season.  I liked the season 4 opener better.  The flash-forward was great.  Can't wait to see what that's all about.  Beneke looks like hell though.

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Post by: Bob on July 16, 2012, 06:07:13 AM
I have no idea what will happen in the season that led to the Walter White beginning or how long it takes to get to that point, but this should get exciting.
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Post by: Thrifty on July 16, 2012, 06:15:27 AM
It was an okay start to the season.  I liked the season 4 opener better.  The flash-forward was great.  Can't wait to see what that's all about.  Beneke looks like hell though.

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I'm not sure.  The pilot took place on his 50th birthday, so not too far ahead.  I'm not sure how much time has actually elapsed.  Not all that much I don't think.  Hank's recuperation from his gunshot wounds probably took a long time.
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Post by: JimJ on July 16, 2012, 08:02:05 AM
It was an okay start to the season.  I liked the season 4 opener better.  The flash-forward was great.  Can't wait to see what that's all about.  Beneke looks like hell though.

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Crazy that so little actual time has elapsed since Walt was just a mild mannered chemistry teacher.
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Post by: Bob on July 16, 2012, 08:14:04 AM
From the comments I read from the actors and creator, this will be a really cool season with lots of stuff.   This will be a good two year, 16 episode thing.

And I noticed that the promos for Total Recall got smart and have more previews with Bryan talking.   Well duh.
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Post by: lassieface on July 16, 2012, 09:05:48 AM
From the comments I read from the actors and creator, this will be a really cool season with lots of stuff.   This will be a good two year, 16 episode thing.

And I noticed that the promos for Total Recall got smart and have more previews with Bryan talking.   Well duh.

And Aaron Paul was in one of the commercials.
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Post by: Thrifty on July 16, 2012, 09:52:06 AM
It was an okay start to the season.  I liked the season 4 opener better.  The flash-forward was great.  Can't wait to see what that's all about.  Beneke looks like hell though.

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Crazy that so little actual time has elapsed since Walt was just a mild mannered chemistry teacher.
Yeah he was using a fake ID, but I think he was telling the truth about the birthday thing.  He just muttered it as a sort of aside.  Also, he was arranging his bacon on the plate to spell out "52", mirroring the same thing he did on his 50th birthday in the pilot.
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Post by: Bob on July 16, 2012, 10:15:53 AM
From the comments I read from the actors and creator, this will be a really cool season with lots of stuff.   This will be a good two year, 16 episode thing.

And I noticed that the promos for Total Recall got smart and have more previews with Bryan talking.   Well duh.

And Aaron Paul was in one of the commercials.

I thought I saw him in one too.........for what I cannot remember.
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Post by: eegah on July 16, 2012, 02:29:28 PM
It was an okay start to the season.  I liked the season 4 opener better.  The flash-forward was great.  Can't wait to see what that's all about.  Beneke looks like hell though.

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Crazy that so little actual time has elapsed since Walt was just a mild mannered chemistry teacher.
Yeah he was using a fake ID, but I think he was telling the truth about the birthday thing.  He just muttered it as a sort of aside.  Also, he was arranging his bacon on the plate to spell out "52", mirroring the same thing he did on his 50th birthday in the pilot.
But the birthday on his fake id was the same as his real birthday, because he had to show id to get the free meal. Why would you do that?
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Kete on July 16, 2012, 02:36:37 PM
I assume he had 365 fake IDs made.  If you have access to fake IDs why not take advantage?
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Post by: gbeenie on July 16, 2012, 11:59:33 PM
So, what's the spread on
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?
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Post by: Bob on July 17, 2012, 03:23:19 AM
So, what's the spread on
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?

Good question

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Post by: lassieface on July 17, 2012, 08:28:56 AM
So, what's the spread on
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?

Good question

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Really? My thought was
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Post by: Kete on July 17, 2012, 08:33:37 AM
So he said he wouldn't say anything, but did the back taxes ever get paid?
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Post by: Thrifty on July 17, 2012, 08:34:50 AM
So he said he wouldn't say anything, but did the back taxes ever get paid?
Yeah.  He wrote the check, Saul's goons mailed it express, and presumably he was too comatose to call in a stop payment.
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Post by: Thrifty on July 18, 2012, 05:55:17 PM
Season 4 is out on Netflix Instant Watch now.
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Post by: lassieface on July 18, 2012, 10:44:18 PM
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Post by: Bob on July 19, 2012, 03:48:43 AM
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Oh boy oh boy oh boy
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Post by: gbeenie on July 20, 2012, 06:29:59 PM
So, what's the spread on
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?

Good question

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Really? My thought was
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I thought that would be the most dramatically satisfying. Or, the second
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But, then,
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So, I'm giddy with anticipation to see what happens with that.
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Post by: D.B. Barnes on July 22, 2012, 05:03:32 PM
Decent first episode. After the high-intensity thrill ride buildup and climax of last season, a bit of an intensity reset was inevitable. But from what I'm hearing in interviews, this final season is gonna be absolutely fucking nuts.

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Post by: Sideswipe on July 22, 2012, 05:04:47 PM
I just started watching this show on Netflix!  Wooo!
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Post by: D.B. Barnes on July 22, 2012, 05:05:52 PM
I just started watching this show on Netflix!  Wooo!

Strap in. You're in for some shit.
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Post by: Thrifty on July 22, 2012, 05:08:19 PM
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I'm sure it will come up sooner or later.  One thing this show doesn't do is leave loose ends.
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Post by: Sideswipe on July 22, 2012, 05:10:46 PM
Cranston threw an F bomb at the car wash owner!  They can do that on AMC??
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Post by: D.B. Barnes on July 22, 2012, 05:15:55 PM
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I'm sure it will come up sooner or later.  One thing this show doesn't do is leave loose ends.

I guess what I'm saying is it's not a "later" thing. It's an immediate, "right now" thing that determines whether or not they're going to believe they're in the clear.

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Post by: D.B. Barnes on July 22, 2012, 05:17:17 PM
Cranston threw an F bomb at the car wash owner!  They can do that on AMC??

(http://i.imgur.com/1oEMs.gif)
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Post by: Sideswipe on July 22, 2012, 05:19:58 PM
Yeah, that's the one.  To be fair, his eyebrows did look really fucked up.
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Post by: Thrifty on July 22, 2012, 05:38:03 PM
Cranston threw an F bomb at the car wash owner!  They can do that on AMC??
Wasn't there nudity on the first episode?
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Post by: Sideswipe on July 22, 2012, 05:39:40 PM
Nothing on screen.  There was some implied lovin going on though.  I think its kind of awesome that Walt drives a PoS Pontiac Aztek.
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Post by: Bob on July 22, 2012, 05:57:16 PM
You are lucky starting this.

It will grow greatly on you.
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Post by: Sideswipe on July 22, 2012, 06:04:07 PM
I like Hank a lot, he's pretty rough around the edges but it seems like his heart is in the right place.
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Post by: Space version 2.0 on July 22, 2012, 06:22:25 PM
Cranston threw an F bomb at the car wash owner!  They can do that on AMC??
Wasn't there nudity on the first episode?
Briefly, yes. And again in another season.
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Post by: Bob on July 22, 2012, 07:52:26 PM
I love mike...
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Post by: eegah on July 22, 2012, 08:10:26 PM
Irish Sweep!

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Post by: Thrifty on July 24, 2012, 06:52:47 PM
That scene with Mike and Lidia honestly scared me.  It's amazing that they can introduce a new character then build sympathy so quickly that her impending possible death creates that kind of tension.

I can't wait for Hank to find out about Walt.  The scene with Hank's boss lamenting the fact that he was close friends with Gus and never realized Gus's darker side was great dramatic irony.
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Post by: JimJ on July 24, 2012, 07:20:29 PM
That scene with Mike and Lidia honestly scared me.  It's amazing that they can introduce a new character then build sympathy so quickly that her impending possible death creates that kind of tension.

"Nobody's going to find you, Lydia" Fucking shivers, despite the fact that I knew a line like that was coming. And her reaction was so good.  Such a great scene.

Does anybody have ANY sympathy for Walt left at this point?  Between the creepy "I forgive you." last week and that disgusting scene at the end of this episode and the scene where he's consoling Jessie, I'm just so ready for this manipulative piece of shit to get what's coming to him. I think I've officially gone from just not liking him to actively hating him over the past two episodes.

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Post by: Thrifty on July 25, 2012, 03:26:12 AM
That scene with Mike and Lidia honestly scared me.  It's amazing that they can introduce a new character then build sympathy so quickly that her impending possible death creates that kind of tension.

"Nobody's going to find you, Lydia" Fucking shivers, despite the fact that I knew a line like that was coming. And her reaction was so good.  Such a great scene.

Does anybody have ANY sympathy for Walt left at this point?  Between the creepy "I forgive you." last week and that disgusting scene at the end of this episode and the scene where he's consoling Jessie, I'm just so ready for this manipulative piece of shit to get what's coming to him. I think I've officially gone from just not liking him to actively hating him over the past two episodes.
Not me.  Not a shred.  I don't think we're supposed to any more.  Show runner Vince Gilligan said that over the course of the show Walt was supposed to go from ordinary guy to drug lord (or from Mr. Chips to Scarface).  He's about 85% of the way there now.  Nobody feels sympathy for Scarface.
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Post by: Bob on July 25, 2012, 05:24:44 AM
I love what's going on and I cannot wait to see what all is going to happen next.  It could be ANYTHING right now......good and bad and unknown.
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Post by: JimJ on July 25, 2012, 06:56:28 AM
That scene with Mike and Lidia honestly scared me.  It's amazing that they can introduce a new character then build sympathy so quickly that her impending possible death creates that kind of tension.

"Nobody's going to find you, Lydia" Fucking shivers, despite the fact that I knew a line like that was coming. And her reaction was so good.  Such a great scene.

Does anybody have ANY sympathy for Walt left at this point?  Between the creepy "I forgive you." last week and that disgusting scene at the end of this episode and the scene where he's consoling Jessie, I'm just so ready for this manipulative piece of shit to get what's coming to him. I think I've officially gone from just not liking him to actively hating him over the past two episodes.
Not me.  Not a shred.  I don't think we're supposed to any more.  Show runner Vince Gilligan said that over the course of the show Walt was supposed to go from ordinary guy to drug lord (or from Mr. Chips to Scarface).  He's about 85% of the way there now.  Nobody feels sympathy for Scarface.

Well, we've already seen him buying his "little friend". I just can't wait to see how it ends. The year long wait between season halves is going to be absolutely unbearable. At least this half ends right around the time that the fall tv season starts, so there'll be plenty of stuff to pass the time with, and some of it may even be good, but nothing can compare to this show.
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Post by: Thrifty on July 25, 2012, 07:45:32 AM
I had actual nightmares about Walt.  Like I was part of his operation and he was about to kill me for stepping out of line.
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Post by: D.B. Barnes on July 25, 2012, 09:22:39 AM
Yeah, the transition to full-on psycho drug lord is complete. That's pretty much where any sympathy goes right out the window, for me at least. That shit with the kissing and the "nothing's more important than family" mantra scene wrapped it up. The guy is a monster.

So, with big international investigation underway, it looks like they might actually just gloss over that whole truck magnet thing.
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Post by: Thrifty on July 25, 2012, 09:43:44 AM
So, with big international investigation underway, it looks like they might actually just gloss over that whole truck magnet thing.

Maybe, maybe not.  After Combo got killed midway through season 2, I didn't think that would ever come up again.  Then Jesse inadvertently starts dating the older sister of the shooter, then later still someone poisons her son.  This show seems to have a tradition of introducing things, seemingly abandoning them, then coming back to them when you least expect them.  Let's not forget that Hank has already had a confrontation with the owner of the junk yard, and won't be so easily distracted if he has another.
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Post by: gbeenie on July 26, 2012, 10:29:45 PM
Irish Sweep!

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Post by: gbeenie on July 26, 2012, 10:35:07 PM
That scene with Mike and Lidia honestly scared me.  It's amazing that they can introduce a new character then build sympathy so quickly that her impending possible death creates that kind of tension.

"Nobody's going to find you, Lydia" Fucking shivers, despite the fact that I knew a line like that was coming. And her reaction was so good.  Such a great scene.

Does anybody have ANY sympathy for Walt left at this point?  Between the creepy "I forgive you." last week and that disgusting scene at the end of this episode and the scene where he's consoling Jessie, I'm just so ready for this manipulative piece of shit to get what's coming to him. I think I've officially gone from just not liking him to actively hating him over the past two episodes.


One thing I've noticed about Walt's behavior is that he's a big badass with people when he can get away with it, like with Saul; but, when around people who won't tolerate it, like Mike or Skyler, he doesn't even try to pull that shit.

There's a word for someone who behaves like that: Bully.


And, as evidenced by the season premiere, it's now clear that what Walt is is a goddamned supervillain.
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Post by: Sideswipe on July 28, 2012, 03:33:08 PM
Fuuuuck!  I just watched season 2 episode 12.  Damn, thats a good way to get someone off of heroine.  If something like that happens and doesnt get you to rethink your life, nothing will.
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Post by: goflyblind on July 28, 2012, 04:46:44 PM
Fuuuuck!  I just watched season 2 episode 12.  Damn, thats a good way to get someone off of heroine.  If something like that happens and doesnt get you to rethink your life, nothing will.

yeah, i hate it when women get all "i'm the lead character in this story"!
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Post by: Sideswipe on July 28, 2012, 04:54:56 PM
You can take your fancy dictionary and shove it directly up your elitist ass!
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Post by: ShadowDog on July 29, 2012, 02:53:35 AM
Cranston threw an F bomb at the car wash owner!  They can do that on AMC??

They're allowed one, and ONLY one, per season.  So from Season Two on they've used them at crucial moments.  I won't spoil you but the one use in Season Four was at a particularly crucial character moment between two important characters.  I don't remember where it happened the previous two seasons.

I'm curious since Season 5 is being broken up between years and they even shot them separately (they haven't even started shooting the back 8 yet) if this means they get one fuck per 8 episodes, or if that's just one fuck for the whole Season.
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Post by: Sideswipe on July 29, 2012, 11:17:24 AM
Hank is a fuckin badass!
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Post by: Thrifty on July 29, 2012, 07:30:26 PM
I was just thinking how it's been a while since we saw Badger and Skinny Pete.
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Post by: Bob on July 29, 2012, 07:45:00 PM
I was just thinking how it's been a while since we saw Badger and Skinny Pete.

Me too!

I worry about seeing them.   Mike will watch them closely......
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Post by: lassieface on July 29, 2012, 10:14:40 PM
That was such a great ending. I think that's the first time Jesse is considering that Mike might be right about Walt.
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Post by: goflyblind on July 30, 2012, 12:06:49 PM
http://theoatmeal.com/comics/breaking_bad_hair

purple!
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Post by: Thrifty on July 30, 2012, 12:08:41 PM
I like the way Skyler is cracking under the stress.  This is building to something big, I can tell.  Will she crack and spill the beans to Hank?  Is that why Walt was using a fake name in the opening of the season?  They've established that his 51st birthday is coming up soon, so that opening is only 1 year in the future.
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Post by: goflyblind on July 30, 2012, 03:17:43 PM
i'm halfway through last night's episode, and i've gotta say that this seems like the worst plan in the history of plans. even the rv in the desert was better.
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Post by: Kete on July 30, 2012, 03:19:41 PM
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Post by: Bob on July 30, 2012, 03:41:55 PM
I think they explained how they could contain the smell and then clean things out.   I really see how that could work.   Plus, I am sure the creator asked police and FBI stuff too.
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Post by: Thrifty on July 30, 2012, 04:36:12 PM
Yeah I thought the moving meth lab inside houses being fumigated is just asking for trouble.
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Post by: JimJ on July 30, 2012, 08:21:13 PM
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That being said, I have to say this.  LANDRY! NO!!  STAY AWAY FROM THE BAD MAN!
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Post by: wurwolf on August 04, 2012, 05:48:40 AM
Just started watching this show last night. Looks like it should be fun.  :D
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Post by: Bob on August 04, 2012, 07:01:58 AM
You will enjoy the show, the stories, the acting, the surprises, the WTFs.....everything.
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Post by: eegah on August 04, 2012, 10:38:14 AM
It's the best TV drama that I've ever seen, and I'm pretty old!  ;)
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Post by: Sideswipe on August 04, 2012, 10:54:11 AM
I've never seen another series where they devote an entire epsidoe to two guys trying to kill a housefly.
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Post by: goflyblind on August 04, 2012, 11:50:06 AM
I've never seen another series where they devote an entire epsidoe to two guys trying to kill a housefly.

well, there was that really weird episode of all in the family...
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Post by: D.B. Barnes on August 04, 2012, 12:02:30 PM
I've never seen another series where they devote an entire episode to two guys trying to kill a housefly.

Classic episode. Makes me laugh just thinking about it.

http://www.youtube.com/v/09xwj7L7-Z0?version=3&hl=en_US
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Post by: Thrifty on August 04, 2012, 12:53:00 PM
I've never seen another series where they devote an entire epsidoe to two guys trying to kill a housefly.
Well, if you wanna do a great show on a limited budget, you gotta do a bottle episode here and there.
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Post by: wurwolf on August 04, 2012, 01:25:55 PM
It seems like it's really well done. So far I've just watched the pilot but I like the way it began -- a guy driving an RV in his underwear like a maniac and other guys sliding around the back and you have no fucking idea what the hell is going on, and then the rest of the pilot is explaining that crazy scenario.

I also like the fact that Walt drives an Aztek. Seeing him pull up in a parking spot in it told me everything about him that I needed to know. It was a nice touch.
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Post by: Bob on August 04, 2012, 01:30:08 PM
And your happiness will only grow over time.

Ah......
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Post by: D.B. Barnes on August 04, 2012, 01:30:30 PM
It seems like it's really well done. So far I've just watched the pilot but I like the way it began -- a guy driving an RV in his underwear like a maniac and other guys sliding around the back and you have no fucking idea what the hell is going on, and then the rest of the pilot is explaining that crazy scenario.

I also like the fact that Walt drives an Aztek. Seeing him pull up in a parking spot in it told me everything about him that I needed to know. It was a nice touch.

You are embarking on a strange and wonderful journey. I always kinda envy the people who are just starting in watching the show, because I know what a wild ride they're in for. I'd love to go back and experience the great moments again for the first time.
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Post by: gbeenie on August 04, 2012, 09:30:12 PM
Just started watching this show last night. Looks like it should be fun.  :D

You're in for a hell of a trip. We picked up the show late, too.
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Post by: Thrifty on August 05, 2012, 04:12:51 PM
I picked up the season 4 DVD set a few days ago.  Even though I'd seen them all when they first aired and they're all available on Netflix On Demand, it's still worth it to own the series.  The commentary tracks and special features are pretty good too.  Cranston brings his comedic talents to the commentaries.  It's a real treat.

I hope they do some more back story on Mike.  It'd be fun to know how he got to be Gus's right hand man, and why he quit the police force.
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Post by: Sideswipe on August 05, 2012, 04:16:15 PM
Its interestind to see Mike go from loving grandfather in one scene to ruthless bastard in the very next scene.
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Post by: wurwolf on August 05, 2012, 06:49:08 PM
Watched the second episode, where Walt and that other guy had to kill one guy/dispose of the other, and I have to admit it's starting to lose me a little bit. I got bored about halfway through but the bathtub brought me back. Of course, that was the end of the episode.
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Post by: Bob on August 05, 2012, 06:56:30 PM
Ah, the bathtub.   I learned so much up there
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Post by: D.B. Barnes on August 05, 2012, 07:39:46 PM
Watched the second episode, where Walt and that other guy had to kill one guy/dispose of the other, and I have to admit it's starting to lose me a little bit. I got bored about halfway through but the bathtub brought me back. Of course, that was the end of the episode.

There is a significant amount of slow burn to this show, especially in the beginning, where they take their time developing characters and exploring situations. I've always seen the desired effect of this to be a kind of gradually building intensity leading to something really exciting and often completely unexpected. To add to this, several of the characters go through incredibly significant changes.  For me, once I was invested in the characters, I could just sit back (or on the edge of my seat!) and watch it unfold while enjoying some of the finest acting on television.

As the show moves on, the overall intensity builds as the stakes get higher and the danger increases. If you can stick with it, you'll be treated with almost non-stop intensity that doesn't let up over the course of several episodes. And it gets seriously intense, so much so that I would sometimes experience a physical reaction, as in accelerated heartbeat and forgetting to breathe.

I know that might sound crazy, and it's possible you won't experience it the same way, but I guess what I trying to say is it's a hell of a show. In my opinion, one of the best dramas in at least the last decade.

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Post by: Thrifty on August 05, 2012, 07:51:20 PM
Watched the second episode, where Walt and that other guy had to kill one guy/dispose of the other, and I have to admit it's starting to lose me a little bit. I got bored about halfway through but the bathtub brought me back. Of course, that was the end of the episode.
You're only on the second episode.  You're judging it a little quickly.  And the 2nd and 3rd episodes were pretty slow paced too.
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Post by: Thrifty on August 05, 2012, 07:51:45 PM
Poor Skyler.  I'm rooting for the cancer too.
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Post by: Thrifty on August 05, 2012, 09:19:50 PM
This show is starting to get too close to a gangster movie, where evil men reap in huge profits while spreading misery and death and the police can't stop them.  I don't like gangster movies.
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Post by: Lembach on August 05, 2012, 09:54:03 PM
Dear Breaking Bad,
Please kill off Skyler. I am so sick of that whiny shrew. If I have to see her constipated pinched face screech at Walt anymore about how bad HER non-cancer-having life is, I may do something violent. She should be on her knees begging for forgiveness.
--thank you.

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Post by: Thrifty on August 06, 2012, 04:49:21 AM
Dear Breaking Bad,
Please kill off Skyler. I am so sick of that whiny shrew. If I have to see her constipated pinched face screech at Walt anymore about how bad HER non-cancer-having life is, I may do something violent. She should be on her knees begging for forgiveness.
--thank you.

Yeah, being bullied around by an abusive husband who is putting you and your children in danger is so easy.
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Post by: JimJ on August 06, 2012, 02:05:32 PM
That scene in the bedroom with Walt and Skyler is one of the best scenes of this entire series IMO. So intense and claustrophobic. That bedroom seemed about 10x smaller than usual.

It astounds me that anyone still takes Walt's side over Skyler. I'd never claim that Skyler was a saint, but next to Walt she looks like Mother Theresa. Her character isn't easy to like but I've always tried to look at things from her point of view. Her mild mannered chemistry teacher husband has become a drug kingpin. Even before she knew about the drugs, she knew SOMETHING was up, and she was more right than she could've imagined. She's obviously not innocent, as she let herself get pulled into Walt's world (and I'm glad the show had her acknowledge that there was blood on her hands as well) but Walt is just a monster at this point.
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Post by: JimJ on August 07, 2012, 10:08:10 PM
The devolution of Walter White's birthday celebrations:
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Post by: Thrifty on August 08, 2012, 04:12:25 AM
I do hope they explain what's going on at that diner by the end of the current 8 episode run.  Even if it ends on a cliffhanger that I have to wait 10 months to see resolved.
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Post by: JimJ on August 08, 2012, 06:08:42 AM
I do hope they explain what's going on at that diner by the end of the current 8 episode run.  Even if it ends on a cliffhanger that I have to wait 10 months to see resolved.

My guess is something huge will happen that causes Walt to leave at the end of this run, and then next year is him coming back and the diner scene will be the opening scene.  There's going to have to be a huge time jump somewhere and it makes sense to make that leap during the long break.
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Post by: Thrifty on August 08, 2012, 10:21:55 AM
Lydia is my favorite new character.  It's a good addition, sort of someone who was like Walt--straight laced and law abiding--but went down the criminal path.  Except she just isn't as good at it, and would love nothing more than to get out, and constantly regrets walking down that path.
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Post by: eegah on August 08, 2012, 12:19:37 PM
Lydia is my favorite new character.  It's a good addition, sort of someone who was like Walt--straight laced and law abiding--but went down the criminal path.  Except she just isn't as good at it, and would love nothing more than to get out, and constantly regrets walking down that path.

I agree, she is a good character. But...
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Post by: D.B. Barnes on August 11, 2012, 03:12:51 PM
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Post by: ShadowDog on August 12, 2012, 09:30:36 AM
LMFAO!
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Post by: Thrifty on August 12, 2012, 08:09:15 PM
My heart was pounding throughout that entire train heist sequence.  And holy hell, what an ending!

I'm glad that Walt still has reservations about killing innocent civilians.  He's not a complete monster yet.
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Post by: Thrifty on August 12, 2012, 08:17:01 PM
Also, I'm really glad that
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Post by: JimJ on August 12, 2012, 10:37:10 PM
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Also, I'm really glad that
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Post by: Bob on August 13, 2012, 04:43:04 AM
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Post by: goflyblind on August 14, 2012, 07:12:45 AM
so is the whole rest of the season gonna be mike and walt arguing, then jesse has an epiphany? ???
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Post by: D.B. Barnes on August 14, 2012, 07:21:11 AM
so is the whole rest of the season gonna be mike and walt arguing, then jesse has an epiphany? ???

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Post by: Bob on August 14, 2012, 07:38:30 AM
He certainly has shown that when he is off drugs and puts his brain to things, he seems to act well.
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Post by: Thrifty on August 14, 2012, 09:55:39 PM
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Post by: bta on August 17, 2012, 02:01:15 PM
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Post by: Lembach on August 19, 2012, 02:31:39 AM
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That got a lol from me.  ;D
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Post by: goflyblind on August 20, 2012, 06:25:57 AM
... of a senior citizen. :D
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Post by: Bob on August 20, 2012, 07:23:15 AM
Last night did a good job of explaining (in a vary nice quick way) of why Walter is acting like he is.

I have NO CLUE what are going to happen in the next two episodes that finish off this half of the final season.......but I cannot wait.
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Post by: goflyblind on August 20, 2012, 07:42:05 AM
there needs to be a mike & saul spin-off.
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Post by: wurwolf on August 20, 2012, 08:56:48 AM
I really really really want to read this thread but we are only four episodes in. :(
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Post by: eegah on August 20, 2012, 09:05:37 AM
Last night did a good job of explaining (in a vary nice quick way) of why Walter is acting like he is.

That was good. I still want to know what happened with his job at Los Alamos, though. Maybe we'll learn that later.
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Post by: goflyblind on August 23, 2012, 04:00:23 AM
http://www.youtube.com/v/VQG5_rR4hog
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Post by: Bob on August 23, 2012, 05:27:19 AM
I need to get one of those hats.............
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Post by: ShadowDog on August 23, 2012, 02:59:11 PM
there needs to be a mike & saul spin-off.

Yes, yes there does.
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Post by: goflyblind on August 24, 2012, 04:33:44 AM
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Post by: Thrifty on August 24, 2012, 11:32:35 AM
I'm getting kinda bored with this show now.  It was fun when Walt was a somewhat sympathetic character, in over his head, and struggling to stay alive to support his family.  Now he's just a violent, egotistical, greedy monster.  I keep rooting for the cops to bust him, so that the show doesn't have a downer ending.
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Post by: Bob on August 24, 2012, 11:41:36 AM
See, in my mind, I do not find Walter evil.   He has in his mind that he has unique skills to make a product that people will pay him a lot of money for and does not go after people unless they go after him.   He is just letting things play out as he sees them and, in his mind, he is not doing anything terrible at all.

Just curious what the HECK is going to happen!
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Post by: Thrifty on August 24, 2012, 11:42:39 AM
See, in my mind, I do not find Walter evil.   He has in his mind that he has unique skills to make a product that people will pay him a lot of money for and does not go after people unless they go after him.   He is just letting things play out as he sees them and, in his mind, he is not doing anything terrible at all.

Just curious what the HECK is going to happen!

That's kind of the way evil is.  Most evil people think they are not doing anything wrong, or they are doing good.
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Post by: Bob on August 24, 2012, 11:44:01 AM
True, I agree with you on how evil starts.   I just find what will happen in just ten short episodes has me on the end of my seat.
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Post by: eegah on August 26, 2012, 08:12:30 PM
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Post by: Kete on August 26, 2012, 09:05:40 PM
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Post by: Thrifty on August 27, 2012, 03:22:44 AM
Next week is the midseason finale, last new episode until next Summer.  I hope they explain the beginning by then.  The TV Guide listing says the following:

Gliding Over All:  Loose ends are tied up while Walt contemplates a dangerous move.
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Post by: Bob on August 27, 2012, 04:05:58 AM
I now have no idea what will happen next......except me being sad I have to wait months for the next 8.
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Post by: goflyblind on August 27, 2012, 06:10:17 AM
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Post by: Thrifty on August 27, 2012, 11:56:11 AM
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Me too.  I'm so sick of Walt.  What a piece of shit.

And not because of what happened with Mike, but because of what happened with Jesse.
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Post by: Bob on August 27, 2012, 12:01:31 PM
Actually, Walt is not bothering me as I can see how his personality is telling him what he is doing is all fine and he should keep doing it.

He is about into some scary places I am guessing, but I can see why he is doing it.  Maybe that means I am ready for that too.....hmmmm
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Post by: Thrifty on August 27, 2012, 12:07:01 PM
Actually, Walt is not bothering me as I can see how his personality is telling him what he is doing is all fine and he should keep doing it.

Right.  Like I said, evil people generally think they're doing good or morally neutral things.  Real evil people are not cartoons supervillians.
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Post by: Kete on August 27, 2012, 12:10:13 PM
They really have done an excellent job showing the progression from good to evil.  When they redo the Star Wars prequels they should hire the writers from Breaking Bad.
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Post by: goflyblind on August 27, 2012, 04:02:39 PM
Real evil people are not cartoons supervillians.

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Post by: lassieface on August 28, 2012, 05:47:07 PM
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Post by: Thrifty on September 02, 2012, 08:05:44 PM
Great way to end midseason.  It's gonna be an agonizing 10 months to wait this out.
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Post by: eegah on September 02, 2012, 08:12:23 PM
Had to happen, eventually
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Post by: Kete on September 02, 2012, 10:49:06 PM
I'm usually not a fan of such things, but the only way that scene could have ended better was with a *plop* *plop* sound.
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Post by: Bob on September 03, 2012, 03:36:41 AM
I have no idea how this is going to go, but I will hate waiting for the second half of this season.
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Post by: eegah on September 03, 2012, 08:11:48 AM
I'm usually not q fan of such things, but the only way that scene could have ended better was with a *plop* *plop* sound.

I think it would have been even better if he'd ripped a huge bellowing fart.

You just know someone's going to but the scene on youtube with the appropriate audio edit.
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Post by: Bob on September 03, 2012, 01:23:03 PM
I watched the last show again and I was amazed how every scene was amazing, all the actors were perfect and the special music used in a couple of scenes were spot on.

Come on second half, get here.

And reality, I have no clue what will happen.
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Post by: Thrifty on September 03, 2012, 02:44:39 PM
I felt so sorry for Hank after
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Post by: Thrifty on September 03, 2012, 02:48:22 PM
Fucking Walt was ready to kill Lydia after he got his list.  Good thing she had the foresight to anticipate that and save herself by appealing to Walt's greed and vanity.
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Post by: Bob on September 03, 2012, 03:14:22 PM
I've grown the Walter White goatee now......so watch out for my actions.
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Post by: lassieface on September 03, 2012, 03:15:20 PM
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Post by: Bob on September 03, 2012, 03:22:04 PM
Good question.

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Post by: Thrifty on September 03, 2012, 03:39:56 PM
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Don't you remember that episode?  It was from late 2nd season.  He punched it right after he found out his cancer was in remission.  He was frustrated because he didn't expect to live this long and was sorta upset that he had.
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Post by: Bob on September 03, 2012, 04:14:34 PM
So this seaon, he finished a brain exam and he noticed the previously punched up item, he did not punch it then?

Okay, thanks.
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Post by: ShadowDog on September 03, 2012, 04:21:00 PM
I don't think we can assume Walt's extra lying ass was telling Skylar the truth about quitting the Meth business.
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Post by: goflyblind on September 03, 2012, 04:42:33 PM
I don't think we can assume Walt's extra lying ass was telling Skylar the truth about quitting the Meth business.

yeah, at the end when they're all sitting around the pool, there's that line hank says something about "the market has spoken" and walt gives skylar a look.
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Post by: ShadowDog on September 03, 2012, 06:54:31 PM
My writer's theory on what's going to happen:

Walt's gonna die and it's gonna be by his own poison.  That being the case, it's probably going to be Skylar because she's the only one in the position to see where he hides it.  They've been teasing that poison all season long, and really all series long but it's never been used.  You don't keep coming back to a weapon for AN ENTIRE FUCKING SERIES without ever seeing it in action and working at least once.  This is the kind of poetic justice this series lives on.  Remember Walt's cough in the season premiere teaser?  That's not cancer, that's the "flu like symptoms" this poison creates.
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Post by: goflyblind on September 04, 2012, 01:44:16 PM
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http://io9.com/5940352/a-chart-of-every-death-in-breaking-bad-that-can-be-tied-back-to-walter-white
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Post by: lassieface on September 04, 2012, 01:59:33 PM
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Post by: Kete on September 04, 2012, 02:05:12 PM
I don't think Q can die.
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Post by: Thrifty on September 04, 2012, 04:46:38 PM
My writer's theory on what's going to happen:

Walt's gonna die and it's gonna be by his own poison.  That being the case, it's probably going to be Skylar because she's the only one in the position to see where he hides it.  They've been teasing that poison all season long, and really all series long but it's never been used.  You don't keep coming back to a weapon for AN ENTIRE FUCKING SERIES without ever seeing it in action and working at least once.  This is the kind of poetic justice this series lives on.  Remember Walt's cough in the season premiere teaser?  That's not cancer, that's the "flu like symptoms" this poison creates.
That would be a cool use of Chekov's Gun, but how would that make sense?  Walt has only opened his ricin hiding place twice.  The chances are astronomically low that Skylar would have seen him doing that.  Even if she did, how would she know what she was looking at?
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Post by: ShadowDog on September 04, 2012, 07:16:45 PM
All good questions.  With 8 episodes to play with and as good as these writers are, if they wanted it to go down this way, they'd totally lay it in correctly so it all makes sense.  Off the top of my head, I'd have Jesse confide in Skylar about his worries about Walt in an attempt to help him and in the course of that conversation the poison comes up somehow, then later Skylar sees it ... and so on.

A good 75% of writing is getting from where you are to where you want to be, usually by working backwards.  "Okay, so Davie needs to know sign language for this reveal to work ... Hmmm ... let's give him a deaf brother, that's the ticket!"
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Post by: Thrifty on September 04, 2012, 07:26:14 PM
A good 75% of writing is getting from where you are to where you want to be, usually by working backwards.  "Okay, so Davie needs to know sign language for this reveal to work ... Hmmm ... let's give him a deaf brother, that's the ticket!"

The writers of Monk explained this was how they wrote pretty much every episode.
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Post by: JimJ on September 04, 2012, 08:39:18 PM
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Post by: ShadowDog on September 05, 2012, 07:04:16 AM
I just remembered that Walt's drug money paid for Hank's recovery.  The very second Hank busts Walt, his career is FUCKED.  They set that up nicely by having Hank's previous boss get fired for being the same kinda dumbass.
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Post by: Thrifty on September 05, 2012, 07:08:48 AM
I just remembered that Walt's drug money paid for Hank's recovery.  The very second Hank busts Walt, his career is FUCKED.  They set that up nicely by having Hank's previous boss get fired for being the same kinda dumbass.
Hank's last boss got the shaft big time.  I could tell they were setting up to have a "Hank arrests Walt, Hank is fired" scenario.  They also set that up early third season, when Saul was explaining to Walt why Skylar wouldn't call the cops.

Still, after the prison massacres, Hank might be relieved.
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Post by: Kete on September 05, 2012, 08:01:03 AM
No no no......
Hank is going to realize the financial opportunities, and insist on running Walt's security.  Walt will say that he retired, but Hank is going to force him back into it.  Hank's overzealous police work was really just jealousy of the New Mexico drug trade.
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Post by: Bob on September 05, 2012, 08:10:32 AM
Man, anything can happen.
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Post by: lassieface on September 05, 2012, 09:56:03 AM
I just remembered that Walt's drug money paid for Hank's recovery.  The very second Hank busts Walt, his career is FUCKED.  They set that up nicely by having Hank's previous boss get fired for being the same kinda dumbass.

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Post by: Thrifty on September 05, 2012, 10:15:06 AM
No no no......
Hank is going to realize the financial opportunities, and insist on running Walt's security.  Walt will say that he retired, but Hank is going to force him back into it.  Hank's overzealous police work was really just jealousy of the New Mexico drug trade.
Hank is not going to join the meth business.  Hank is a dedicated, skilled, honest law man above all else.
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Post by: Kete on September 05, 2012, 10:18:15 AM
No no no......
Hank is going to realize the financial opportunities, and insist on running Walt's security.  Walt will say that he retired, but Hank is going to force him back into it.  Hank's overzealous police work was really just jealousy of the New Mexico drug trade.
Hank is not going to join the meth business.  Hank is a dedicated, skilled, honest law man above all else.
Nope.
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Post by: Thrifty on September 05, 2012, 10:20:16 AM
No no no......
Hank is going to realize the financial opportunities, and insist on running Walt's security.  Walt will say that he retired, but Hank is going to force him back into it.  Hank's overzealous police work was really just jealousy of the New Mexico drug trade.
Hank is not going to join the meth business.  Hank is a dedicated, skilled, honest law man above all else.
Nope.
Good retort!
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Post by: Thrifty on September 05, 2012, 10:24:00 AM
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Why would the kids become wards of the state?  Walt Jr. is almost 18 anyway.  Him and the baby can stay with Hank and Marie.  It's absurd to think that any attempt to pin Fring's murder on Hank would work.  They already know that he was killed by the bomb hidden in Salamenca's wheelchair.  If an accusation like that was gonna be made, it would have happened already.  The worst Hank would have to worry about is his career.

God damnit. 10 fucking months we gotta wait?
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Post by: ShadowDog on September 05, 2012, 04:55:12 PM
Why would the kids become wards of the state?  Walt Jr. is almost 18 anyway.  Him and the baby can stay with Hank and Marie.  It's absurd to think that any attempt to pin Fring's murder on Hank would work.  They already know that he was killed by the bomb hidden in Salamenca's wheelchair.  If an accusation like that was gonna be made, it would have happened already.  The worst Hank would have to worry about is his career.

The accusation hasn't been made yet because Hank has never turned in his own brother in law before.
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Post by: Thrifty on September 05, 2012, 05:28:25 PM
Why would the kids become wards of the state?  Walt Jr. is almost 18 anyway.  Him and the baby can stay with Hank and Marie.  It's absurd to think that any attempt to pin Fring's murder on Hank would work.  They already know that he was killed by the bomb hidden in Salamenca's wheelchair.  If an accusation like that was gonna be made, it would have happened already.  The worst Hank would have to worry about is his career.

The accusation hasn't been made yet because Hank has never turned in his own brother in law before.
How would that make any difference?
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Post by: goflyblind on September 07, 2012, 03:29:00 AM
http://www.somethingawful.com/d/photoshop-phriday/breaking-bad-starwars.php

i'd post a few, but somethingawful's hot-linking image replacement is probably still active.
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Post by: goflyblind on September 08, 2012, 06:50:34 AM
I'm usually not a fan of such things, but the only way that scene could have ended better was with a *plop* *plop* sound.

http://www.cracked.com/quick-fixes/the-explosive-breaking-bad-alternate-ending-you-didnt-see/
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Post by: bta on September 08, 2012, 07:19:14 PM
I'm usually not a fan of such things, but the only way that scene could have ended better was with a *plop* *plop* sound.

http://www.cracked.com/quick-fixes/the-explosive-breaking-bad-alternate-ending-you-didnt-see/

That would have been SOOOO much better if they waited on all the poop noises until the end, and then had the deuce-dropping sound effect.  Still funny though.
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Post by: ShadowDog on September 09, 2012, 04:04:11 AM
Man, suddenly Sunday nights suck ass.

At least Dexter, Once Upon A Time, and Homeland are coming back soon.
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Post by: Bob on September 09, 2012, 04:33:02 AM
And AMC's Hell on Wheels and BBC America's Cooper.   Soon, HBO's Boardwalk Empire.

Sunday night is full
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Post by: ShadowDog on September 09, 2012, 07:03:01 AM
True, Hell On Wheels rocks.
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Post by: lassieface on September 09, 2012, 12:29:22 PM
I watch Doctor Who on Sundays cause I don't get BBC America.
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Post by: Kete on September 09, 2012, 02:46:08 PM
I'm just going to start cooking meth on Sunday nights.
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Post by: Lembach on September 09, 2012, 09:38:49 PM
I'm just going to start cooking meth on Sunday nights.

That'll give you the energy to watch that whole lineup.
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Post by: bta on October 01, 2012, 04:30:56 PM
(http://d12rkrm9wnppc5.cloudfront.net/production/paperclip/pieces/pics/6802/6003193b7d8fe0091c04daa0f2e835dd/large/albequerque-gothic.jpg)
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Post by: Kete on October 02, 2012, 08:59:32 AM
I like the roof pizza.
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Post by: wurwolf on October 16, 2012, 01:50:45 PM
(http://i3.dealtwith.it/i/n/2e440da1eaa4e7aeddfecccbe08518d2/pizza.gif)

I could watch this all day.
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Post by: wurwolf on October 16, 2012, 04:15:17 PM
Also, now that we are well into season 3 (almost done, in fact), I have started reading the Television Without Pity recaps of the show. In the episode that starts with a flashback of Tortuga bragging in the bar about how awesome he is, a guy comes in to give him a belated birthday present. According to the recapper, who got this from a Breaking Bad podcast, Vince Gilligan named the guy Juan Bolsa, which roughly translates from Spanish into "Johnny Sack".

It's little touches like that that make me love the show.
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Post by: Bob on October 16, 2012, 04:21:03 PM
Season Three ROCKS and you will love it.
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Post by: wurwolf on October 20, 2012, 06:02:24 PM
We just watched Box Cutter.

God, I need a fucking break.
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Post by: Thrifty on October 21, 2012, 03:45:46 AM
We just watched Box Cutter.

God, I need a fucking break.
Good idea.  The intensity really starts to ramp up around there.
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Post by: wurwolf on October 22, 2012, 06:54:53 AM
Yeah, we've been pounding back about five episodes every weekend, a few on Saturday, a couple on Sunday. But when we watched our usual three episodes on Saturday we ended with Box Cutter, and that was it for me for the weekend. It was such a crazy mindfuck.
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Post by: Thrifty on October 22, 2012, 07:41:35 AM
The midseason finale of season 5 actually gave me nightmares.
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Post by: ShadowDog on October 22, 2012, 04:14:37 PM
It was pretty awesome!
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Post by: D.B. Barnes on November 05, 2012, 06:37:44 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/eJnw5.jpg)
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Post by: wurwolf on November 14, 2012, 06:03:01 PM
This cracked me up. That family eats a lot of breakfast.

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mclifiYSCo1ryzizgo1_500.jpg)

And another:

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mdka95h5X11rzipspo1_500.png)
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Post by: wurwolf on November 17, 2012, 05:39:39 PM
So last night we wrapped up season 4.

And....

I have completely lost faith in humanity.
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Post by: Bob on November 17, 2012, 06:04:20 PM
It will grow back!
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Post by: wurwolf on November 17, 2012, 08:13:44 PM
I doubt it.

I will never look at one of my favorite spring flowers the same way again. As soon as Jesse said what had poisoned the kid I started saying, "Oh no. No no no no no."
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Post by: ShadowDog on November 18, 2012, 04:49:16 AM
And another:

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mdka95h5X11rzipspo1_500.png)

I like how Walter's smiling through the pain of his dislocated left shoulder.
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Post by: Bob on November 18, 2012, 06:15:36 AM
I doubt it.

I will never look at one of my favorite spring flowers the same way again. As soon as Jesse said what had poisoned the kid I started saying, "Oh no. No no no no no."

I had really no idea why they were showing that until the near end of that shot.   My mouth just flew open and I stared at it for a minute.    GREAT filming......
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Post by: Thrifty on November 18, 2012, 06:17:25 AM
I just can't believe Walt would attempt to murder a child to further his own ends.  Remember the 2nd and 3rd episodes, when he couldn't bring himself to murder a drug dealer who  was threatening his family?
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Post by: Bob on November 18, 2012, 06:18:50 AM
I just can't believe Walt would attempt to murder a child to further his own ends.  Remember the 2nd and 3rd episodes, when he couldn't bring himself to murder a drug dealer who  was threatening his family?

His view of the world is changing......I cannot wait to see the final episodes!
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Post by: Thrifty on November 18, 2012, 06:22:03 AM
I just can't believe Walt would attempt to murder a child to further his own ends.  Remember the 2nd and 3rd episodes, when he couldn't bring himself to murder a drug dealer who  was threatening his family?

His view of the world is changing......I cannot wait to see the final episodes!
I hope he ends up dead; either in jail or out.
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Post by: wurwolf on November 18, 2012, 06:40:56 AM
I think death would be too easy for Walt. He's expecting to die and he seems perfectly fine with it. Jail time would be a killer.

Although production added like a billion more flowers than what one or two lily of the valley plants would normally produce, I recognized it in the scene when Walt was spinning the gun and I remember thinking, Why a lily of the valley? It's a spring-blooming plant, mostly suited to wooded and shady areas. I couldn't understand why Walt would have it in his austere New Mexico back yard. At the time I just chalked it up to someone in set decoration not knowing much about plants, but then of course as soon as Jesse said that Brock was poisoned by lily of the valley, I figured it out.

Also particularly evil of Walt was when he had to go back home for something but he wasn't sure if there was a bomb rigged or men staking out his house (which there were), so he fucking calls his old lady neighbor to go in and check to see if he left a burner on while they were "on vacation". UGH. The woman's cane was a nice touch, too.
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Post by: Space version 2.0 on November 18, 2012, 06:45:30 AM
I just can't believe Walt would attempt to murder a child to further his own ends.  Remember the 2nd and 3rd episodes, when he couldn't bring himself to murder a drug dealer who  was threatening his family?
Well, he didn't really attempt to murder the kid since the flower isn't fatal. He just knew it would make Jesse think it was the ricin. Otherwise why go through the trouble of stealing it and then not actually use it? However, it did go directly against his whole thing about not using children.

I read somewhere* that in the upcoming episodes Walt will do something that will destroy any last remaining bit of sympathy anyone may have for him.

*Here (http://www.uproxx.com/tv/2012/08/breaking-bad-allusions/3/)
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Post by: bta on November 18, 2012, 07:09:10 AM
Walt will go out like Vic Mackey hopefully.
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Post by: Space version 2.0 on November 18, 2012, 07:47:15 AM
http://www.youtube.com/v/vQTrdYEaoIU?version=3&hl=en_US
Gatorade me, bitch!
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Post by: wurwolf on November 18, 2012, 08:25:18 PM
We haven't started season 5 yet as I am still reeling from the season 4 finale. Seriously scary was Hector Salamante's eyes as he began pressing the button for his bell/bomb. I swear to god he reminded me of Judge Doom:

(http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120227020325/disney/images/thumb/a/a6/Judge_Doom_Eyes.jpg/640px-Judge_Doom_Eyes.jpg)
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Post by: Thrifty on November 19, 2012, 01:50:56 AM
We haven't started season 5 yet as I am still reeling from the season 4 finale. Seriously scary was Hector Salamante's eyes as he began pressing the button for his bell/bomb. I swear to god he reminded me of Judge Doom:

Well, season 5 isn't up on Netflix yet.  Probably won't be until mid Summer 2013.  You can get it on Amazon instant view if you feel like parting with 14 bucks.
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Post by: wurwolf on November 19, 2012, 06:11:09 AM
Thanks for the tip, but APGIL has it all tivoed so we'll just watch it there.  :)
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Post by: D.B. Barnes on November 30, 2012, 06:33:46 PM
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mdbbqhO9Tp1r3bxl5o1_500.jpg)
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Post by: wurwolf on December 10, 2012, 03:24:58 AM
I love those minimalist Breaking Bad cartoons. Cracks me up every time.

We are mostly through season five now -- two more episodes to go. I will miss it. It sounds crazy to say but I am digging Walt a whole lot this season. He is so hardcore and badass. The scene between him and Skyler where they argue about the kids being sent away was fucking amazing. Bryan Cranston and Anna Gunn acted the shit out of that scene.
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Post by: D.B. Barnes on April 13, 2013, 03:33:48 PM
http://www.youtube.com/v/YKePrVPGK3g?hl=en_US&version=3
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Post by: The Snape on April 24, 2013, 07:47:28 PM
I just dont see the appeal of this show.

Can someone try to slate a well thought out pitch to me? Would consider a watch then
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Post by: Variety of Cells on April 24, 2013, 09:58:26 PM
I just dont see the appeal of this show.

Can someone try to slate a well thought out pitch to me? Would consider a watch then

Haha, this post has thrown me through a bit of a loop.  Maybe it's just late, but I can't help finding it funny and weird and lazy and a whole bunch of things.

I'm sure you're a great person The Snape, I really am, and I don't mean any harm by what I say next.  But I just find it amusing that you expect someone to spend their time detailing why you should watch the highest rated show on television, when there are millions of glowing reviews for the show online.  But no, The Snape requires his own invitation, preferably engraved, if he is going to commit to the forty eights minutes of not moving any muscles it takes to watch an episode, which he is free to suspend at any moment if he is not adequately entertained. 

It's like someone demanding a review of The Beatles before they agree to give them a listen.  Sure, you might not like them, but probability says you will, and the effort needed to find out is negligible.  But on top of that, someone's explanation of The Beatles isn't going to predict whether you like them or not because execution plays a large role in the final product.

Now I've spent enough time on this post to write you five well thought out pitches, but instead I've decided to be a dick and laugh at your request, and I apologize for that.  Though I will say this; the show is executed very well.  That's it's best feature, and the biggest reason to watch it, in my opinion.
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Post by: Thrifty on April 29, 2013, 04:34:55 AM
So I dunno if you guys were aware of this, but Dean Norris, the guy who plays Hank, is going to be starring in a new CBS drama this summer called Under the Dome.  It's based on Stephen King's recent novel of the same name.  In this, Dean plays the villain, Big Jim Rennie.  There's a meth lab in this show too, except Jim Rennie is one of the guys who runs it.

Dean Norris is a great choice for a guy like Big Jim Rennie, and I look forward to seeing his performance there.
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Post by: MUD CRICKET on April 30, 2013, 11:31:07 PM
I just dont see the appeal of this show.

Can someone try to slate a well thought out pitch to me? Would consider a watch then

Its a drama series so you have to watch it from episode one.  you might be hooked.  it just gets better and better.

"Breaking Bad has received widespread critical acclaim and has been praised by some critics as the greatest television drama of all time.[4][5] On the review aggregator website Metacritic, the first season scored 74/100,[65] the second season scored 85/100,[66] the third season scored 89/100[67] the fourth season scored 96/100,[68] and the fifth season so far has been rated at 99/100 as of October 2012.[69] The American Film Institute listed Breaking Bad as one of the top ten television series of 2010 and 2011"
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Post by: goflyblind on May 03, 2013, 05:17:17 PM
http://www.youtube.com/v/fSUK4WgQ3vk
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Post by: Thrifty on May 04, 2013, 03:24:50 AM
So I guess about 2 more months until the start of the final season?  I really hope this ends with Walter getting his comeuppance.  I think I said this before, but if he doesn't end up dead or in jail, I will be very upset.
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Post by: MUD CRICKET on May 04, 2013, 05:06:23 PM
So I guess about 2 more months until the start of the final season?  I really hope this ends with Walter getting his comeuppance.  I think I said this before, but if he doesn't end up dead or in jail, I will be very upset.

Same.  He's gotta go down like Scarface.  If they slap a happy ending on it I'll squeak about it in chatrooms.
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Post by: bta on May 16, 2013, 02:06:04 PM
I hope he goes down like Vic Macky on The Shield, and loses everything but the thing he worked hard to avoid.  Death or prison is too easy.
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Post by: Thrifty on June 17, 2013, 06:46:32 AM
I hope he goes down like Vic Macky on The Shield, and loses everything but the thing he worked hard to avoid.  Death or prison is too easy.

I don't understand the reference, but I agree with the sentiment.

FYI, the final 8 episodes begin airing August 11th (http://collider.com/breaking-bad-season-6-premiere-date-august/).
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Post by: Bob on June 17, 2013, 11:12:39 AM
I got it!

The ending of The Shield was just about perfect and made you think for awhile about what all happened
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Post by: ShadowDog on June 18, 2013, 07:27:06 AM
They've referenced that same batch of Ricin too many times for it not to come into play somehow. I think Skylar sees him stash it one of these times, poisons him with it, leading to a huge dramatic moment where he figures this out, rushes to his hiding spot, sees its missing, and knows he's fucked. LOL

They've just gone back to it too many times. Its Chekov's Ricin.
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Post by: eegah on June 18, 2013, 08:55:17 AM
They've referenced that same batch of Ricin too many times for it not to come into play somehow. I think Skylar sees him stash it one of these times, poisons him with it, leading to a huge dramatic moment where he figures this out, rushes to his hiding spot, sees its missing, and knows he's fucked. LOL

They've just gone back to it too many times. Its Chekov's Ricin.

I'm guessing that he knows he's been poisoned when he's at the diner in the flash-forward at the start of season five. He was acting kinda sick.
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Post by: ShadowDog on June 18, 2013, 12:30:20 PM
I think so too, but that could also be his cancer back, which would take us full circle. Of course he could have cancer be back AND be poisoned.
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Post by: Bob on June 18, 2013, 01:18:43 PM
Or they are just channeling him into The Walking Dead.......
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Post by: Raven on June 18, 2013, 02:44:10 PM
I kinda wanna see Jesse seriously mess him up. 
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Post by: ShadowDog on June 19, 2013, 05:58:27 AM
Jesse has like 5 or 6 legit reasons to do so. LMFAO
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Post by: Thrifty on June 19, 2013, 06:13:59 AM
Jesse has like 5 or 6 legit reasons to do so. LMFAO
Yeah but the thing about Jessie is that he's a complete pussy, cowardly and easily bullied.  He aint gonna do shit. 

Lydia seems like more of the weak link to me.  She's already on the DEA's radar.  If Hank can build a case against her, I can tell she would become a cooperating witness and enter witness protection in a heartbeat.
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Post by: Raven on June 19, 2013, 08:54:46 PM
Yeah but the thing about Jessie is that he's a complete pussy, cowardly and easily bullied.  He aint gonna do shit. 

He did shoot Gail.  All it would take is finding out one of the things Walt did behind his back to push him over the edge.
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Post by: Thrifty on June 21, 2013, 07:02:00 AM
I got it!

The ending of The Shield was just about perfect and made you think for awhile about what all happened

Well I've never seen an episode of The Shield, but I just added some discs to my Netflix queue, so I'll check it out.
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Post by: Bob on June 21, 2013, 07:21:45 AM
The first episode will hook you...........
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Kete on June 21, 2013, 10:56:44 AM
When the Shield came out, I refused to watch it because it was the guy from Commish.  Now I don't see him like that, so I should check it out.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Bob on June 21, 2013, 11:02:08 AM
When the Shield came out, I refused to watch it because it was the guy from Commish.  Now I don't see him like that, so I should check it out.

Yeah, he usually had light or comedic roles and this one just smacked everyone in the face and stayed that way.  It was a great job of finding him out for that role.
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Post by: ShadowDog on June 21, 2013, 01:07:29 PM
My father refuses to watch him in anything since because "He's that guy from The Shield" so I find it hilarious he had baggage before that.
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Post by: Raven on June 21, 2013, 02:21:50 PM
I started watching those but had to stop because the disk I was watching on was scratched so bad it wouldn't play.  I think I'm on the season Glenn Close was on but it's been a while so I don't really remember. I really liked it so far.
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Post by: Thrifty on June 21, 2013, 02:52:11 PM
When the Shield came out, I refused to watch it because it was the guy from Commish.  Now I don't see him like that, so I should check it out.

Have you guys seen that show with the doofy dad from Malcolm in the Middle playing a science teacher turned meth kingpin?  I hear it's really dark.
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Post by: ShadowDog on June 22, 2013, 04:25:51 AM
LOL I hated Malcom In The Middle so I had no respect for the father as an actor. Boy did he prove me wrong!
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Post by: Bob on June 22, 2013, 05:13:51 AM
LOL I hated Malcom In The Middle so I had no respect for the father as an actor. Boy did he prove me wrong!

Kinda makes one wonder who else is out there that is just waiting for their shot, doesn't it?

I am amazed he was given this role, especially with how everyone assumed he would be. 
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Post by: Raven on June 22, 2013, 06:02:40 AM
Well the concept behind the show was something like "watching Mickey Mouse turn into Scarface" so I guess the dad from Malcolm in the Middle makes complete sense as a starting point.
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Post by: eegah on June 22, 2013, 09:59:24 AM
Well the concept behind the show was something like "watching Mickey Mouse Mr. Chips turn into Scarface" so I guess the dad from Malcolm in the Middle makes complete sense as a starting point.

FTFY

Vince Gilligan sold Bryan Cranston to the producers using his performance in the X-files episode where he played a racist who you were supposed to sympathize with.
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Post by: ShadowDog on June 22, 2013, 11:24:21 PM
Given Vince's X-Files background, that makes perfect sense
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Post by: Raven on June 23, 2013, 01:38:48 AM
FTFY

Vince Gilligan sold Bryan Cranston to the producers using his performance in the X-files episode where he played a racist who you were supposed to sympathize with.

I heard the quote second hand on the radio one day and I know that the DJ said Mickey Mouse.  His bad, not mine.  Mr. Chips makes more sense.  lol

Side note- Mr. Chips makes me think Erik Estrada
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Post by: Johnny Unusual on July 03, 2013, 05:16:06 PM
OK, I'm averting eyes to avoid spoilers, but this NEEDS to be posted.

Saul Goodman.  The TV show.  They are working on it:

From the AV Club
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After  more than a year of hearing that a Saul Goodman-centered Breaking Bad spinoff was being “eyed,” “explored,” and “mulled,” Vince Gilligan has upgraded the project's condition to “full speed ahead,” which is funny because meth. Still, behind the increasingly delightful wordplay, there’s still not much in the way of concrete decisions: “It's not a done deal yet, but it's definitely something we're full speed ahead on trying to get going,” Gilligan tells The Wrap, noting once again that he and Breaking Bad producer (and Saul creator) Peter Gould are still “plugging away” on a concept they can pitch to Sony, with the hope it would then develop as a series with Gould as showrunner. Included in that plugging away, as always, is deciding what exactly this show wants to be. As Gilligan says:

"There's a way to make it a half-hour show and make it a little more—I don’t want to say sitcom-y, but a little more traditionally half-hour comedic. Or there's a way to do it where it fits more snuggly in with the Breaking Bad universe, in which it's an hour-long show. As you can imagine with Saul Goodman as a character, a show like that would have to have plenty of humor to it. But also because he works for some pretty scary clientele sometimes, there'd be a bit of drama in it as well.
We're trying to nail that down. As of yet, we haven't completely figured that out ourselves."

There’s also the small matter of figuring out whether this series will be a prequel or sequel—a decision that could potentially mean bringing back actors from past seasons, like Giancarlo Esposito, and a decision that can only be officially made public once Breaking Bad ends. “I have to be coy as to whether it even could be a sequel. Because you never know, when the dust settles at the end of our final eight episodes, where everybody's gonna be and who's gonna be left standing,” Gilligan says, even though everyone already knows the last Breaking Bad episode will see Saul opening a gift shop with Blair and Tootie and adopting Mackenzie Astin, and boom, there's your show.
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Post by: MrTorso on July 24, 2013, 11:16:33 PM
I just did a marathon of all the seasons this past month. Just finished season 5!! Can't wait for the premiere on 8/11. On 8/12 there is going to be a Breaking Bad mythbusters episode!! It looks fun!
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Post by: Raven on July 25, 2013, 05:51:57 AM
I just did a marathon of all the seasons this past month. Just finished season 5!! Can't wait for the premiere on 8/11. On 8/12 there is going to be a Breaking Bad mythbusters episode!! It looks fun!

I did the same thing.  Can't wait to see how Hank starts out the season.
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Post by: Thrifty Version II on July 25, 2013, 08:21:00 AM
I'm also wondering how Hank is gonna start connecting the dots.  He thought he had this whole blue meth case cracked back when he had Jesse cornered in the RV in that junkyard, but then he was distracted by the fake cell phone call informing him that his wife Marie had been in a serious car accident.  Ever since then, Hank has to have been wondering how a low down thug like Jesse could have access to his personal cell phone and known his wife's name.  Maybe this will help him make that connection and he'll go after Jesse again.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Raven on July 25, 2013, 07:21:24 PM
I'm also wondering how Hank is gonna start connecting the dots.  He thought he had this whole blue meth case cracked back when he had Jesse cornered in the RV in that junkyard, but then he was distracted by the fake cell phone call informing him that his wife Marie had been in a serious car accident.  Ever since then, Hank has to have been wondering how a low down thug like Jesse could have access to his personal cell phone and known his wife's name.  Maybe this will help him make that connection and he'll go after Jesse again.

My absolute favorite thing about how they ended the last season was that Walt was out of the business.   There's no way Hank can do anything to catch Walt red-handed.  Since they've also established that Hank is willing to ignore the law for Marie's shoplifting that just adds another interesting layer to how it's going to go.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Thrifty Version II on July 25, 2013, 07:43:44 PM
Marie's shoplifting is a minor misdemeanor.  Walt's activities are a series of serious felonies that Hank has made a career out of stopping.
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Post by: Raven on July 25, 2013, 07:55:11 PM
Marie's shoplifting is a minor misdemeanor.  Walt's activities are a series of serious felonies that Hank has made a career out of stopping.

Since it was habitual shoplifting I wouldn't say it was minor, especially the tiara as case in point.  They never said an actual dollar amount for it but if it was from a jeweler and given Skylar's reaction to how over the top it was I bet that approached felony theft.  And I'm betting Hanks dedication to family doesn't make it as cut and dry as you'd think.  I'm not saying it's a major factor in how the story is going to unfold but I'd be surpised if it wasn't at least brought up. 
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Post by: Thrifty Version II on July 28, 2013, 08:22:08 PM
Just 2 more weeks.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: eegah on August 01, 2013, 04:41:44 PM
I have no way to watch this. I wish they'd let us watch online for a fee; I'd gladly pay it. I really don't want to have to subscribe to cable for a couple of months.

I am sad. :(
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Post by: Thrifty Version II on August 01, 2013, 04:46:06 PM
I have no way to watch this. I wish they'd let us watch online for a fee; I'd gladly pay it. I really don't want to have to subscribe to cable for a couple of months.

I am sad. :(
You can get them on Amazon Prime for 2 bucks apiece the day after they air.  I did that once for some reason... I think I fell asleep during the show and didn't record it.
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Post by: eegah on August 01, 2013, 05:26:31 PM
I have no way to watch this. I wish they'd let us watch online for a fee; I'd gladly pay it. I really don't want to have to subscribe to cable for a couple of months.

I am sad. :(
You can get them on Amazon Prime for 2 bucks apiece the day after they air.  I did that once for some reason... I think I fell asleep during the show and didn't record it.

Hmmm...my wife is technically a student so we can get Student Prime for $39, then pay $2 per episode for 8 episodes, making it $55 total. I may have to do it. Thanks!
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Post by: Thrifty Version II on August 01, 2013, 05:31:08 PM
I have no way to watch this. I wish they'd let us watch online for a fee; I'd gladly pay it. I really don't want to have to subscribe to cable for a couple of months.

I am sad. :(
You can get them on Amazon Prime for 2 bucks apiece the day after they air.  I did that once for some reason... I think I fell asleep during the show and didn't record it.

Hmmm...my wife is technically a student so we can get Student Prime for $39, then pay $2 per episode for 8 episodes, making it $55 total. I may have to do it. Thanks!
You don't have to sign up for any subscription service to buy or rent Amazon videos.  Subscribing gives you access to SOME videos for free (but even then it's only the $79 Prime and not the $39 Student).  I don't think Breaking Bad is one of those.

Anybody can buy or rent anything in their library a la carte, with no subscription.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: eegah on August 01, 2013, 05:33:25 PM
You don't have to sign up for any subscription service to buy or rent Amazon videos.  Subscribing gives you access to SOME videos for free (but even then it's only the $79 Prime and not the $39 Student).  I don't think Breaking Bad is one of those.

Anybody can buy or rent anything in their library a la carte, with no subscription.

Cool! Thanks!
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Post by: eegah on August 03, 2013, 07:49:16 AM
Ok, I'm in heaven now. I just discovered that my Wii has a Amazon Instant Video channel (is that new?), so I can easily watch it directly on my TV. Thanks again!
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Post by: lassieface on August 03, 2013, 09:22:01 AM
My name is Ozymandias.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Bob on August 03, 2013, 09:47:09 AM
I have no idea how this will end, they all could die, they all could kill each other, they all could retire happily.

No clue..... hope it is great.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Thrifty Version II on August 03, 2013, 09:53:20 AM
I have no idea how this will end, they all could die, they all could kill each other, they all could retire happily.

No clue..... hope it is great.
Maybe it will all be revealed to have been a fantasy inside a snow globe owned by an autistic child.
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Post by: Raven on August 03, 2013, 10:03:30 AM
Or they all died on the plane crash (which would be a little weird since there were 2 almost full seasons before the plane crash).  Maybe the entire last season was Gus's dream and we're going back to him surviving the explosion with half his face and extracting revenge on Walt (Mike would be back then and that's a nice bonus if this is the way they go).  Any of these would be fine.  I trust Vince Gilligan completely, I just hope Ross and Rachel end up together. 
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Post by: goflyblind on August 03, 2013, 10:23:08 AM
best possible last scene:

cranston wakes up in bed next to jane kaczmarek.
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Post by: Johnny Unusual on August 05, 2013, 02:56:44 AM
Just finished season 3.  Still far behind, but at this pace I'll be caught up for the very last episode, at the very least.
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Post by: goflyblind on August 06, 2013, 12:16:17 PM
http://www.youtube.com/v/oDqGAUvWKkU
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Post by: Thrifty Version II on August 06, 2013, 05:45:43 PM
I'm so tired of waiting.  5 more days.  Then one episode a week and gotta wait through a week every week for 8 weeks it makes me weak.
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Post by: Raven on August 06, 2013, 07:20:09 PM
I'm with you thrifty.  That's why I hate the AMC airing schedule.  There's 2 seasons of Walking Dead before Breaking Bad comes back on.  It was even worse this year since there were only 8 episodes instead of 13.  Oh well, at least the wait does get better after the first episode though.
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Post by: MrTorso on August 06, 2013, 08:01:47 PM
I binged all the show in the last month. 1 at a time for 8 weeks is gonna suck!
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Post by: wurwolf on August 07, 2013, 07:23:30 AM
My name is Ozymandias.

I really did love this.

http://www.amctv.com/breaking-bad/videos/ozymandias-as-read-by-bryan-cranston-breaking-bad
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Post by: goflyblind on August 07, 2013, 08:11:32 AM
holy shit, wurwolf's not dead.  :o
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: BiteMe316 on August 07, 2013, 03:33:50 PM
My name is Ozymandias.

I really did love this.

http://www.amctv.com/breaking-bad/videos/ozymandias-as-read-by-bryan-cranston-breaking-bad

That same poem is on the Mythbusters fansite read by Jaime.  It's really dark and eerie, even for him.  :speechless:

Here's the link for the Mythbusters one.  It's the very first video that starts playing.

http://dsc.discovery.com/tv-shows/mythbusters
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Post by: Thrifty Version II on August 07, 2013, 04:16:23 PM
This will come on Sunday nights, and Under the Dome on Monday nights... that's a whole lot of Dean Norris in a small time frame.
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Post by: Bob on August 07, 2013, 05:13:26 PM
This will come on Sunday nights, and Under the Dome on Monday nights... that's a whole lot of Dean Norris in a small time frame.

And lots of Lennie James on AMC too

(http://www.everythingaction.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/lencover460x276.jpg)
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Post by: Thrifty Version II on August 09, 2013, 06:03:43 PM
Vince Gilligan’s Brain Spoils Final Season Of ‘Breaking Bad’ For Vince Gilligan (http://www.theonion.com/articles/vince-gilligans-brain-spoils-final-season-of-break,33426/)

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LOS ANGELES—Despite waiting nearly a year for this Sunday’s return of the popular AMC series Breaking Bad, creator Vince Gilligan reported today that his own brain had nonetheless completely spoiled the television show’s final season for him. “I was really excited about seeing what was going to happen after Hank found out that Walt is actually Heisenberg, and to find out why Walt was in that diner alone in the season five flash-forward, but now that’s all totally ruined,” Gilligan said, confirming that his mind had not only revealed to him the entire plot of the season premiere, but also gave him a thorough scene-by-scene breakdown of every moment of the show’s final eight episodes. “The fucker totally ruined exactly what ends up happening to Walt, Jesse, Skyler, Hank, everyone! Not only that, but now I know the final scene, too.” Gilligan later told reporters that all in all, he was kind of happy his brain spoiled the show because the ending sounded “sort of shitty.”
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Post by: Raven on August 09, 2013, 06:10:25 PM
Does that prove that he has multiple personalities or that he doesn't have multiple personalities.

Sidebar- 48 hrs. tick tick tick.
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Post by: Johnny Unusual on August 10, 2013, 04:23:57 AM
Need someone to review bad local lawyer ads?  BETTER CALL SAUL!

http://www.avclub.com/articles/watch-breaking-bads-bob-odenkirk-dissect-the-ads-o,101431/

BTW, my favourite was the one with the singing devil.
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Post by: Thrifty Version II on August 10, 2013, 06:19:08 AM
http://www.youtube.com/v/2k29CBPbZho?hl=en_US&version=3
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Post by: Thrifty Version II on August 11, 2013, 03:11:57 PM
 < 3 hours.
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Post by: eegah on August 11, 2013, 04:56:18 PM
I have to wait until tomorrow. :(

Guess I'll be going "off the grid" until then so I don't hear any spoilers. No surfing or watching TV, just in case. If any of my students mention anything tomorrow, it's an automatic zero! ;)
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Post by: Bob on August 11, 2013, 04:58:42 PM
One hour!
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Post by: Thrifty Version II on August 11, 2013, 07:05:48 PM
That moved a lot faster than I expected.  The confrontation in the garage was a master stroke.  Badger and Skinny Pete brought some fantastic comic relief.
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Post by: Bob on August 11, 2013, 07:12:25 PM
Wow, that had a lot stuff in it!
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Post by: Raven on August 11, 2013, 07:25:12 PM
That was awesome.  Loved the parrallel interactions with the neighbor lady.  I thought the firearm in the trunk was a "who is that for?" moment.  Now the ricen too. 

Also very interesting having his cancer back.  Didn't really think they were gonna go that route.
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Post by: goflyblind on August 12, 2013, 05:47:59 AM
the house seems overly derelict for only being empty a year-ish.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Bob on August 12, 2013, 06:26:21 AM
I can see a drug guy's house getting that messed up by people in a pretty fast time.
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Post by: goflyblind on August 12, 2013, 06:49:38 AM
wait, wait, wait, wait, wait... was that vince gilligan's pitch for star trek 3? :o
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Post by: Thrifty Version II on August 12, 2013, 06:55:37 AM
the house seems overly derelict for only being empty a year-ish.
It's not just derelict.  I thought it seemed clear that Walt's secret had been exposed and made public knowledge, the house was probably seized by the DEA.  It became a popular destination in Albuquerque, and a lot of the damage was active vandalism.
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Post by: Thrifty Version II on August 12, 2013, 09:35:52 AM
I want to see the garage scene again.  I can't believe Hank figured out so much so quickly.  And it's only the first episode!

Why was he working out of his garage?  Now that he's tipped his hand to Walt, he better bring in the rest of his office, pronto.
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Post by: eegah on August 12, 2013, 04:06:48 PM
Awesome! Worth the wait!

Anyone else catch Marie's "You are the devil" to Walt as Hank came out of the house?

I wonder if we'll see Meth Damon (Todd) again.
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Post by: Lembach on August 13, 2013, 01:49:54 AM
(http://i.minus.com/iGMKZqsq0cgsR.jpg)
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Lembach on August 13, 2013, 01:52:51 AM
(http://i.minus.com/ikPMQvHmN6M7F.jpg)
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Post by: goflyblind on August 13, 2013, 03:05:44 AM
(http://i.minus.com/iGMKZqsq0cgsR.jpg)

who is driving? oh my god, charred pink bear is driving! how can that be?
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Lembach on August 18, 2013, 12:30:19 AM
(http://i.minus.com/iNMF0zWlo7p2u.jpg)
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Post by: goflyblind on August 18, 2013, 01:33:22 PM
(http://thedroidyourelookingfor.files.wordpress.com/2013/08/breakingbad_colorinfographic.jpg)
http://tdylf.com/2013/08/11/infographic-colorizing-walter-whites-decay/
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Post by: Thrifty Version II on August 18, 2013, 07:14:32 PM
I wonder what all that stuff with Lidia and the new owners of Walt's business was.  I guess she's unhappy with the quality of the new product so she brought in some muscle from the old regime to take it back by force?  Maybe that's what Walt is gonna do with the assault rifle.

I'll bet you he's gonna use the ricin on himself.  Since the cancer is back, and it's a painful way to go, he's gonna take the ricin as an easy way to go out after whatever he does with the gun.

This "zombie Jesse" schtick is getting old though.  Can't wait to see what Hank does in that interrogation, though I have a feeling it's gonna be something disappointing.

And I don't understand goflyblind's picture at all.
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Post by: Raven on August 18, 2013, 07:14:58 PM
Awesome episode.  I think Lydia is my new favorite character.  To be that cold-blooded and yet not have the stomach for it.  Absolutely awesome. 

I missed a little in minutes 10-20 but I'll catch the replay.  That's a way to end an episode. 
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Raven on August 18, 2013, 07:17:50 PM
This "zombie Jesse" schtick is getting old though.  Can't wait to see what Hank does in that interrogation, though I have a feeling it's gonna be something disappointing.

I think the "zombie Jesse" ends first scene next week.  Maybe not the one before the intro but soon thereafter.
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Post by: Locuststakethesky on August 19, 2013, 07:12:58 AM
This "zombie Jesse" schtick is getting old though.  Can't wait to see what Hank does in that interrogation, though I have a feeling it's gonna be something disappointing.

I think the "zombie Jesse" ends first scene next week.  Maybe not the one before the intro but soon thereafter.
I don't know if I can see Jesse just snapping out of this.  His character has almost consistently degraded.  With only 6 episodes left I don't think anyone is getting any better.  It's all downhill from here.
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Post by: goflyblind on August 19, 2013, 07:14:28 AM
it'll turn out that the real meth kingpin was the baby all along.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: lassieface on August 19, 2013, 07:10:58 PM
Yup. Holly is going to kill Lydia.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Raven on August 19, 2013, 09:06:48 PM
This "zombie Jesse" schtick is getting old though.  Can't wait to see what Hank does in that interrogation, though I have a feeling it's gonna be something disappointing.

I think the "zombie Jesse" ends first scene next week.  Maybe not the one before the intro but soon thereafter.
I don't know if I can see Jesse just snapping out of this.  His character has almost consistently degraded.  With only 6 episodes left I don't think anyone is getting any better.  It's all downhill from here.

He hasn't said a word all season.  That's all I meant by "zombie Jesse" ending. 
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Post by: Variety of Cells on August 19, 2013, 10:13:16 PM
A little slow, but the contrast is necessary. Having the tension at full tilt every episode makes it feel old. I could see the next episode being a little slow too, but after that it would be nice if it picks up again, as I'm sure it will.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Thrifty Version II on August 20, 2013, 09:48:11 AM
I didn't understand the scene with Marie and Skylar.  What pissed off Marie so much and why did she slap Skylar?  Do they now suspect Skylar was in cahoots with Walt?
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Variety of Cells on August 20, 2013, 09:57:39 AM
I didn't understand the scene with Marie and Skylar.  What pissed off Marie so much and why did she slap Skylar?  Do they now suspect Skylar was in cahoots with Walt?

I don't know if she suspects that they were in cahoots, but she does think that Skylar is protecting Walter.  I think Marie was mad that Skylar lied to her so much. 

At first I figured Hank put a wire on Marie to try and get a confession from Skylar, but I don't think that was the case considering how the scene ended.
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Post by: Kete on August 20, 2013, 10:01:17 AM
Maybe Marie thinks that Walt ordered the hit on Hank?  Perhaps not, that's quite a jump.  Maybe they feel like he knew about it or caused it indirectly?
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Post by: jasimon1 on August 20, 2013, 10:03:05 AM
Maybe Marie thinks that Walt ordered the hit on Hank?  Perhaps not, that's quite a jump.  Maybe they feel like he knew about it or caused it indirectly?

Yeah, I assumed it was because of the hit on Hank.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Variety of Cells on August 20, 2013, 11:11:51 AM
Maybe Marie thinks that Walt ordered the hit on Hank?  Perhaps not, that's quite a jump.  Maybe they feel like he knew about it or caused it indirectly?

Yeah, I assumed it was because of the hit on Hank.

Ah yes.  That would make sense.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Locuststakethesky on August 20, 2013, 11:46:51 AM
This "zombie Jesse" schtick is getting old though.  Can't wait to see what Hank does in that interrogation, though I have a feeling it's gonna be something disappointing.

I think the "zombie Jesse" ends first scene next week.  Maybe not the one before the intro but soon thereafter.
I don't know if I can see Jesse just snapping out of this.  His character has almost consistently degraded.  With only 6 episodes left I don't think anyone is getting any better.  It's all downhill from here.

He hasn't said a word all season.  That's all I meant by "zombie Jesse" ending.
Good point. 
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Locuststakethesky on August 20, 2013, 11:49:34 AM
(http://cdn.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/801372826.jpg)

Also...this happened.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Kete on August 20, 2013, 12:53:24 PM
How have I never seen this?

http://www.youtube.com/v/nMWdz1cANo0
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Post by: Raven on August 20, 2013, 05:00:02 PM
Maybe Marie thinks that Walt ordered the hit on Hank?  Perhaps not, that's quite a jump.  Maybe they feel like he knew about it or caused it indirectly?

Yeah, I assumed it was because of the hit on Hank.

Ah yes.  That would make sense.
I think that they were under the impression that the trip into the pool was her first step of involvement and she was more of a victim, but as they went further and further back it became evident that she was truly involved.  The detail that Hank went into in the garage in the last episode tells me that he pretty much knows who did what involving Gus, Gail, Jesse and Walt but can't prove any of it.  Skylar seems to be the only thing that they were cloudy on, well, until her (lack-of) conversation with Marie anyway.  I don't think in any way they think Walt ordered the hit on Hank, but if she had spoken up when she first found out it wouldn't have gotten to that point. 
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Post by: Thrifty Version II on August 25, 2013, 08:08:53 PM
Another great show.

I loved Hank's face during the restaurant scene.  It's like he was exuding as much fury and hatred as a man possibly can without exploding.  Walt's video seemed kinda smart, but it also felt like something of a Hail Mary pass.  I felt a little dejected, because it looked like Walt was gonna slither out of this again. 

..then Jesse's scene...

I could tell when he started frantically patting himself down that he had put 2 and 2 together and figured out that Walt had poisoned Brock.  The confrontation in Saul's office was amazing.  Jesse was pure fury, and Saul's terror was so intense it looked like he was gonna shit himself.  Great resolution, and I think Walt was really caught off guard.  It seems like he expected Jesse would come after his family, not his property.  What a way to end the episode.  I guess that explains why the place is in such ruin at the point of the flash-forward.
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Post by: goflyblind on August 26, 2013, 05:58:45 AM
bullshit: meth damon wouldn't smoke.
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Post by: Lembach on August 26, 2013, 10:40:22 PM
http://www.youtube.com/v/oDqGAUvWKkU
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Post by: d00hickey on August 27, 2013, 02:22:38 PM
I don't know about you guys but the last few episodes seem to get more and more unbelievable.
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Post by: Raven on August 29, 2013, 06:18:31 PM
I don't know about you guys but the last few episodes seem to get more and more unbelievable.

Meaning amazing or "not believable?"
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Post by: d00hickey on August 29, 2013, 06:34:28 PM
I probably just remember it being more realistic
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Post by: Raven on August 29, 2013, 07:02:25 PM
I probably just remember it being more realistic

I don't see anything from the last few being all that far out there.  There are a lot more things going on and less down time than usual, but I don't think anything is all that unrealistic. 

I was a little surprised Todd and his crew escaped unscathed during their assault but since they didn't show how it went down I guess that's left up to interpretation.  Walt's "confession" was out of nowhere but makes complete sense in the grand scheme of things only because of the $177,000 that they paid. 
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Post by: eegah on August 30, 2013, 04:48:50 AM
I probably just remember it being more realistic

I don't see anything from the last few being all that far out there.  There are a lot more things going on and less down time than usual, but I don't think anything is all that unrealistic. 

I was a little surprised Todd and his crew escaped unscathed during their assault but since they didn't show how it went down I guess that's left up to interpretation.  Walt's "confession" was out of nowhere but makes complete sense in the grand scheme of things only because of the $177,000 that they paid.

To me, the most unbelievable thing was the guy with cancer who is on chemo digging a HUGE hole and filling it in in less than a day. Jesse's revelation seemed far-fetched at first but, after I thought about it, was believable. And I don't think Walt's "confession" is supposed to be airtight, it's just supposed to scare Hank and delay a potential DEA investigation.

So, d00hickey, you need to explain what you thought was unbelievable and why, instead of just making the general claim.
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Post by: goflyblind on August 30, 2013, 04:28:54 PM
http://www.youtube.com/v/4sHcs-ueZm4
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Post by: jasimon1 on September 01, 2013, 06:38:49 PM
Why would Jesse have a Hello Kitty phone case?
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Post by: JP on September 01, 2013, 07:30:59 PM
Why would Jesse have a Hello Kitty phone case?

It is the "free" phone Saul gave him.
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Post by: Raven on September 01, 2013, 07:34:43 PM
Skylar, WTF?  "What's one more?"  That was pretty chilling coming from her.

Oh yeah, and Jesse drinking coffee out of a DEA mug is an awesome visual joke.  I was laughing so hard I had to skip back a little to hear what was being said shortly after that. 
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Post by: JimJ on September 01, 2013, 07:53:19 PM
Skylar, WTF?  "What's one more?"  That was pretty chilling coming from her.

Yeah, I've been one of her defenders for a while, but it's hard to say she's much better than Walt at this point.  Even Hank is kind of hard to root for, with his total disregard for Jesse's safety. Pretty much just rooting for Jesse right now.
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Post by: Raven on September 01, 2013, 08:01:30 PM
I'm curious to watch Jesse's recent string of good ideas go head to head with Walt.
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Post by: JimJ on September 01, 2013, 09:11:47 PM
Yeah, I'm really interested to see what Jesse's plan is.
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Post by: ShadowDog on September 02, 2013, 04:42:03 AM
Well, I think "where Walt lives" is his money, but I have no idea how Jesse plans to find it.
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Post by: goflyblind on September 02, 2013, 07:15:35 AM
so where's the baby while skylar's at the car wash and walt's running around burying money and gassing up his car?
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Post by: Thrifty Version II on September 02, 2013, 08:35:01 AM
so where's the baby while skylar's at the car wash and walt's running around burying money and gassing up his car?
I think they just toss it into the props chest.
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Post by: lassieface on September 02, 2013, 09:40:30 AM
Something that Walt seems to care about a great deal is making sure his son doesn't know the truth. Maybe we'll finally get a Jesse/Walt Jr. scene.
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Post by: JP on September 02, 2013, 10:38:38 AM
Skylar, WTF?  "What's one more?"  That was pretty chilling coming from her.

Yeah, I've been one of her defenders for a while, but it's hard to say she's much better than Walt at this point.  Even Hank is kind of hard to root for, with his total disregard for Jesse's safety. Pretty much just rooting for Jesse right now.

It's true what you say about Hank, but I don't think his disregard for Jesse's safety is out of character.  He never had much love for the guy, and after everything that has happened between the two, I don't blame Hank (or Jesse).  I'm still rooting for both.
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Post by: Thrifty Version II on September 02, 2013, 11:06:03 AM
Skylar, WTF?  "What's one more?"  That was pretty chilling coming from her.

Yeah, I've been one of her defenders for a while, but it's hard to say she's much better than Walt at this point.  Even Hank is kind of hard to root for, with his total disregard for Jesse's safety. Pretty much just rooting for Jesse right now.
Hank and Jesse never much liked each other, and right now their relationship is one of "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" types, which are never very strong.
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Post by: Thrifty Version II on September 02, 2013, 11:07:01 AM
Well, I think "where Walt lives" is his money, but I have no idea how Jesse plans to find it.
Homer: It's time to hit him where he lives!
Bart: You mean his house?
Homer: Exactly.
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Post by: Raven on September 02, 2013, 02:32:44 PM
so where's the baby while skylar's at the car wash and walt's running around burying money and gassing up his car?

I think it's been implied that they had daycare at some point, when Walt first quit teaching or something, but lately it seems that every time skyler walks into the house she has Holly meaning that either she gets her from daycare or she's at the carwash with Skyler when she's working.  I'm sure with the limited time you can have a baby shooting they just don't have her visible all that much.
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Post by: goflyblind on September 02, 2013, 02:37:39 PM
they should just have marie look after her.
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Post by: Raven on September 02, 2013, 03:54:47 PM
Something that Walt seems to care about a great deal is making sure his son doesn't know the truth. Maybe we'll finally get a Jesse/Walt Jr. scene.

Jesse doesn't seem to be there for any of their interactions so I'm betting that wouldn't really occur to him.  Shadowdog may be right in saying it's his money.  I'm going another way.  Given the destruction we've seen to the house in the flash forwards and his neighbors reaction, Walt's activities have to become somewhat public knowledge and there's nothing stopping Jesse from going public to some degree.   
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Post by: Thrifty Version II on September 02, 2013, 05:04:00 PM
Something that Walt seems to care about a great deal is making sure his son doesn't know the truth. Maybe we'll finally get a Jesse/Walt Jr. scene.

Jesse doesn't seem to be there for any of their interactions so I'm betting that wouldn't really occur to him.  Shadowdog may be right in saying it's his money.  I'm going another way.  Given the destruction we've seen to the house in the flash forwards and his neighbors reaction, Walt's activities have to become somewhat public knowledge and there's nothing stopping Jesse from going public to some degree.
Could be.  Hank is hesitant to bring anything to the U.S. Attorney because he doesn't have very strong evidence..... but you don't need strong evidence to convict someone in the court of public opinion.
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Post by: Johnny Unusual on September 03, 2013, 02:10:03 AM
Finally caught up.  It's been great so far.  I like the twist at the end of the most recent episode.  As for Skylar, I don't blame her, though the way she put it was a little dismissive.  To her, Jesse is just some stupid henchman to Walt and an immediate threat to her family.  If someone was coming to kill you and you couldn't go to the cops.  Plus, she knows that killing is a bridge that Walt has crossed already.

But yeah, at this point, while she's not as bad as Walt, she has compromised herself so much that it doesn't seem to matter any more.  There's an endgame and while she doesn't want Walt to die anymore, she wants to get through it.

Hank not giving a damn about Jesse is one thing, but the fact that he'd use his death to finish him is a dark new place, though it is understandable.  Hank is in the kind of dangerous situation that Walt's had to use his brain to get out of countless times, and like Walt, each clever plan comes at the cost of a piece of his humanity.

Money is one guess of "hitting him where it hurts", but I'm curious as to how Jesse plans to find the money.  Or can he think of a way that prevents Walt from finding it (I keep thinking Walt Jr's gonna turn in that lottery ticket and win 25 bucks).

The other thing is his kids.  As far as Jessie has been pushed, it's pretty clear he would never hurt a child, but like someone said, he could tell Walt Jr. the truth, or threaten his family in an attempt to scare him into falling into a trap, just as Walt did to Jessie (remember when Marie going over poison symptoms?  Maybe she knows something that could fake symptoms of Ricin poison.)

So how do people think this is going to end.  My initial theory (and parts still might be true) before this season began, was that he was going to disappear himself and slowly die of cancer somewhere under an assumed name before getting a visit from Jesse.  Another theory I heard that sounds plausible is that Walt is loading up on his guns and ricin in an attempt to save Jesse.  Yeah, he's trying to kill him now, but there is no doubt that Jesse is like a second son, albeit one he has put through the ringer with his selfish actions.

Well, I think "where Walt lives" is his money, but I have no idea how Jesse plans to find it.
Homer: It's time to hit him where he lives!
Bart: You mean his house?
Homer: Exactly.

And that's when he picks up another can of gas.
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Post by: Johnny Unusual on September 05, 2013, 05:33:33 PM
Breaking Bad ideas that never happened.

http://insidetv.ew.com/2013/09/05/breaking-bad-story-lines/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+entertainmentweekly%2Fausiellofiles+%28Entertainment+Weekly%2FEW.com%27s%3A+The+Ausiello+Files%29
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Post by: Thrifty Version II on September 05, 2013, 06:32:34 PM
I really loved Jesse's tearful "He can't keep getting away with it."

It's exactly how I feel.
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Post by: Thrifty Version II on September 08, 2013, 07:06:41 PM
I liked that Walt's plot to lure Jesse out failed immediately.  It's a nice change of pace after so many years of everything working out perfectly.

Did anyone else see the ending confrontation coming a mile away?  What the Hell were Hank and Gomez thinking?  They were outmatched 2 to 1.

So tired of all these cliffhangers.

Best case scenario, the badguys spring Walt, leave the others out in the desert.  Walt becomes a fugitive.  It can't happen that Hank, Jesse, and Steve all die, and the evidence they collected is destroyed.  The flash forward clearly shows that Walt's secret is out.
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Post by: lassieface on September 08, 2013, 07:57:51 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/vwMin.gif)
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Post by: Raven on September 08, 2013, 09:06:49 PM
Looks like Hank is the guest on next weeks Talking Bad.  Wonder if he's getting killed in this shootout.
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Post by: JimJ on September 09, 2013, 03:16:54 AM
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
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Post by: Kete on September 09, 2013, 06:36:30 AM
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Great episode.

Walt also should have been dead. As Mythbusters have taught us, car doors do not stop bullets.
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Post by: goflyblind on September 09, 2013, 06:51:16 AM
well, that was in tents. maybe so far as in cabins.
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Post by: Thrifty Version II on September 09, 2013, 07:30:19 AM
Only 3 more episodes.  That means 2 more end of episode cliffhangers.  I really hope the last episode (airing in 20 days) is 2 hours long.  Shows like this usually end up with a double length finale and it would be odd and disappointing if this didn't.
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Post by: Thrifty Version II on September 09, 2013, 09:29:33 AM
It looked like Steve Gomez was the only person hit after about 300,000 rounds of ammunition were fired.  Did these people all go to Imperial Stormtrooper training?
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Post by: ShadowDog on September 09, 2013, 10:37:26 AM
To me it looked like they were foreshadowing Hank and Gomez dying. That's why Hank called Marie.
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Post by: Bob on September 09, 2013, 11:45:57 AM
Man, I loved that and I was frozen to the set at the end.

I cannot wait for the next couple.....still have no idea what will happen.
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Post by: Raven on September 09, 2013, 02:57:42 PM
To me it looked like they were foreshadowing Hank and Gomez dying. That's why Hank called Marie.

Totally agree.  Seeing her so relieved and then absolutely crushing her seems like a very Breaking Bad thing to do. 
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Post by: JP on September 09, 2013, 05:30:53 PM
To me it looked like they were foreshadowing Hank and Gomez dying. That's why Hank called Marie.

Totally agree.  Seeing her so relieved and then absolutely crushing her seems like a very Breaking Bad thing to do.

At the same time, the "final goodbye" is such a common trope, and the scene was so pronounced, that I hope it is a deliberate attempt to make us think Hank doesn't survive.

Might be a stretch, though.
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Post by: Variety of Cells on September 09, 2013, 07:41:43 PM
To me it looked like they were foreshadowing Hank and Gomez dying. That's why Hank called Marie.

Totally agree.  Seeing her so relieved and then absolutely crushing her seems like a very Breaking Bad thing to do.

At the same time, the "final goodbye" is such a common trope, and the scene was so pronounced, that I hope it is a deliberate attempt to make us think Hank doesn't survive.

Might be a stretch, though.

Thought all of these things as well.  Half way through Hank's call I was like "Holy fuck, Hank is going to die."  Literally said that to my fiance.  But once the fire fight started and Hank didn't die right away I started to think along the lines of JP... which made me try and think of something more surprising... and my wife pointed out, maybe Jesse.  I really hope he lives, but it's not out of the question.
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Post by: TeamRAD on September 09, 2013, 08:30:29 PM

It looked like Steve Gomez was the only person hit after about 300,000 rounds of ammunition were fired. 

I haven't re-watched it yet, but it looked to me as if Gomez took a shot in the stomach. However, he still looked to be pretty spry up until the end credits.
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Post by: Variety of Cells on September 09, 2013, 08:43:00 PM
I didn't see any hits.  Gomez grimaced as he was ducking behind the car, but there was no blood or squib. 
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Post by: TeamRAD on September 09, 2013, 08:51:37 PM
It could've very well been desert sand, too.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

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Post by: Raven on September 09, 2013, 08:56:24 PM
Yeah, it didn't look like anyone obviously got hit.  Gomez's grimace was a little weird but rewatching it, there was no reaction shot to taking a hit or any blood anywhere from anyone. 
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Post by: Johnny Unusual on September 09, 2013, 10:35:51 PM
The Breaking Bad, complete series DVD (http://media.avclub.com/images/437/437789/16x9/627.jpg?4030)
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Post by: d00hickey on September 09, 2013, 10:44:49 PM
I haven't missed an episode of the series but I can't remember a specific, crucial plot point and was hoping someone hear could help me remember it. Why did Walt poison Brock in the first place? I have vague memories but if anyone could sum it up simply I would appreciate it. 
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Post by: Raven on September 09, 2013, 10:54:27 PM
I'm really gonna be sad to see Breaking Bad go.  In the next 3 weeks there are 3 shows that I've followed all the way from beginning to end that are wrapping up and my opinions on them ending couldn't be more varied. 

Burn Notice ends this Thursday.  A lot of the seasons I only stuck with because of Bruce Campbell but this final season has gotten a lot darker and the show has gotten a little better and less formulaic.  I find myself more engaged with this season than the previous two and will be a little sad to see it go.  I have a feeling that this is only because I know that it's ending and the wrap up is what's making it good. 

Dexter is another story entirely.  There have been seasons that are really interesting but the series has just been treading water.  I'm curious to see how it will end in 2 weeks but I honestly feel like it's time for it to go.  Way too many people are let in on Dexter's secret for the show to not collapse under it's own weight.

Breaking Bad is the complete opposite of the other 2.  I'm extremely sad to see it go, but my appreciation for every single aspect of this show has never wavered.  I can't think of a single episode that I disliked and while the stakes getting higher and higher the show could have gotten completely ridiculous and my "suspension of disbelief" may be more forgiving for this show, I don't think anything was to out there.  I honestly can't say how a single character's story is going to end in this one and that's truly unique.  There are scenarios I can picture where every single character could end up dead and the story would still work.  How strange is that?
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Post by: Raven on September 09, 2013, 10:56:10 PM
I haven't missed an episode of the series but I can't remember a specific, crucial plot point and was hoping someone hear could help me remember it. Why did Walt poison Brock in the first place? I have vague memories but if anyone could sum it up simply I would appreciate it.

Walt poisoned Brock to make Jesse think that Gus had poisoned him.  That would get Jesse to help Walt find a way to kill Gus.  Poisoning Brock wasn't a direct action Walt took, but instead a means to and end. 
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Post by: Johnny Unusual on September 09, 2013, 10:58:45 PM
I read the situation slightly differently.  Basically, he felt it was the only way to get Jesse to visit him.  Walt wanted to make Jesse think that he accidentally caused him to be poisoned and would go to Walt for help.  After all, he couldn't go to Gus since that was the very poison he was supposed to use on him.  When Jesse felt that he must have had his cigarette stolen, then Walt spun it so that his cigarette must have been stolen by Gus, who had let kids die before.  Walt made Jesse think that this was Gus' plan to turn Jesse against Walt, since, quite rightly, Gus did want Walt dead and Jesse was the only one standing in the way.
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Post by: Raven on September 09, 2013, 11:27:58 PM
I don't think he came up with the "spinning it" on the fly.  He had Saul lift the cigarette in the first place.  I'm pretty sure the whole thing was the plan in the first place. 
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Post by: Johnny Unusual on September 10, 2013, 02:24:14 AM
Yeah, but I think the real plan was to have Jesse think that he poisoned Brock with the cigarette, which is where the conversation starts.  Then when he sees where the conversation is going to uses that opportunity to take it even further.  Pinning it on Gus doesn't really work well unless Jesse suspects Walt.  Otherwise it would make no sense to bring it up to Jesse.  Either that or he was taking a gamble that Jesse would make that assumption.  I think if he had to pin it on Gus without those suspicions from Jesse, then he would have to jump through a lot more logical hoops to come up with a reason that Gus would want to kill this completely unrelated kid.  It would be harder to convince him that this was Gus' plan to pin it on him if it didn't work.  I think he just wanted Jesse to come over so he could look for a way to get Jesse on his side, but he didn't necessarily know all the details.  Walt is a good improviser, after all, but he can't see the future.

Anyway, just watched the most recent one.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

BTW, there's definitely going to be at least one more cook.  What will the last cook song be?

My pick is this:
http://www.youtube.com/v/gVvuYeWYrwg
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Post by: Johnny Unusual on September 10, 2013, 08:47:31 PM
Best contest prize ever!

http://www.youtube.com/v/B16ZybnrwHo
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Post by: d00hickey on September 10, 2013, 09:46:09 PM
So Jesse new about the poison? if so, what did Jesse think the poison was for? did he just not know the circumstance leading to Brock's consumption? Thanks for the replies, I know this info is available in abundance on the internet already but it's difficult to find specifics without weeding through a mountain of info.
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Post by: Johnny Unusual on September 11, 2013, 12:44:55 AM
You really don't remember much.  I'll break it down.

- Walt made poison for Jesse to kill Gus.
- Jesse hit the poison capsule in a cigarette that he kept with him at all times.
- Jesse decided not to use it.
- Walt had Huell (Saul's bodyguard) stole the poison while frisking Jesse.
- Jesse saw that he was missing his poison and though that Brock must have smoked his cigarette.
- Jesse visits Walt for help.
- Jesse thinks Walt poisoned Brock (He's correct).
- Walt convinces Jesse that Gus did it.
- Jesse and Walt team up and Walt finds a way to kill Gus.
- Afterward, it is revealed that Brock wasn't poisoned with the ricin Walt made, but a common poisonous plant called lily of the valley, which is much less lethal than ricin, which makes Jesse thinks no one actually poisoned Brock, but that he just happened to ingest lily of the valley.
- Walt goes home and we see that there's a pot of lily of the valley in Walt's back yard.
-Walt later tricks Jesse into thinking that he lost the poison cigarette somewhere in his house.
- When Huell pulled the same trick with Jesse's weed, Jesse realized his cigarette WAS stolen and that he's been manipulated by Walt.

So, in short, Jesse knew about the poison because it was his to use.  He thought it was for killing Gus, but the ricin was never used.
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Post by: d00hickey on September 11, 2013, 07:15:13 AM
Thanks Johnny Unusual, there's allot I didn't get about the last two episodes and you just brought it all together for me. I can swear I never missed an episode but the Lilly of the Valley stuff rings no bells, must have missed it or been drunk.
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Post by: Thrifty Version II on September 11, 2013, 07:48:43 AM
The Breaking Bad, complete series DVD (http://media.avclub.com/images/437/437789/16x9/627.jpg?4030)
Specialty packaging is cute, but I don't like it cause it won't fit properly on my DVD shelf.  I once bought the complete series of Always Sunny in Philadelphia, but returned it and bought the existing seasons a la carte.
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Post by: JimJ on September 11, 2013, 08:32:27 PM
Thanks Johnny Unusual, there's allot I didn't get about the last two episodes and you just brought it all together for me. I can swear I never missed an episode but the Lilly of the Valley stuff rings no bells, must have missed it or been drunk.

All of the Lilly of the Valley stuff was revealed at the end of the season 4 finale.  I can see how Gus's death could overshadow those details, especially if you've only seen it once.
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Post by: d00hickey on September 11, 2013, 08:41:11 PM
Yea I'm pretty sure I was drunk, I watched most of the series with friends and booze was involved.
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Post by: Johnny Unusual on September 12, 2013, 03:24:11 AM
Friends don't let friends break bad drunk.  Though, in letting them, you are breaking bad.  Kif, we have a conundrum!
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Post by: Raven on September 12, 2013, 09:10:09 AM
Just to note.  The ricen is the little vile that Walt retrieved from the light socket in his destroyed house in the flash forward earlier in the season so that particular part of that thread will come back at some point soon.
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Post by: Variety of Cells on September 12, 2013, 03:06:53 PM
Better Call Saul, a prequel spinoff series has been green lit. Not sure how I feel about it. There's potential, but there's also potential for it to be awful.

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/127728-Physicist-Claims-Limited-Time-Travel-May-be-Possible?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=news
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Post by: d00hickey on September 12, 2013, 04:59:37 PM
Just to note.  The ricen is the little vile that Walt retrieved from the light socket in his destroyed house in the flash forward earlier in the season so that particular part of that thread will come back at some point soon.

Yea, Walt had a full head of hair in that and looked a little down on his luck. From the hair we can reasonably suspect he will be off chemotherapy and has beaten cancer again (maybe temporarily), clearly hes not in prison so if there was a prosecution it was unsuccessful, and since hes down on his luck he appears to have lost all the money. Maybe he's picking up the ricen to get back at someone, get his money back or maybe even commit suicide. 
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Post by: Bob on September 12, 2013, 05:11:27 PM
Of course, he had enough cash to get the expensive assault weapon......
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Johnny Unusual on September 12, 2013, 05:30:37 PM
I don't expect the Saul spinoff to be awful.  I think Breaking Bad does humour very well, and this isn't going to play like a sitcom as much as it's going to play as a dark comedy.  I think Saul has the best chance at a spin-off as any Breaking Bad character.  That said, I would much rather see a Saul series that takes place AFTER Breaking Bad than before.  Of course, that could just be a mislead to disguise Saul's fate.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: JimJ on September 13, 2013, 12:38:09 AM
I don't expect the Saul spinoff to be awful.  I think Breaking Bad does humour very well, and this isn't going to play like a sitcom as much as it's going to play as a dark comedy.  I think Saul has the best chance at a spin-off as any Breaking Bad character.  That said, I would much rather see a Saul series that takes place AFTER Breaking Bad than before.  Of course, that could just be a mislead to disguise Saul's fate.

I'm actually really glad it's a prequel. I expect the show to end badly for pretty much everyone and, however it ends, spinning it off into a lighter, more comedy based show, after whatever crazy events are coming probably wouldn't work. With it being a prequel, we get to see Saul in better days. Not to mention the potential for seeing Mike, Gus and others again.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Johnny Unusual on September 13, 2013, 06:28:26 AM
Fair enough.  But just because it is a comedy, doesn't mean it's going to be light...
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: JimJ on September 13, 2013, 08:47:46 AM
Fair enough.  But just because it is a comedy, doesn't mean it's going to be light...

Well, I said lighter.  Obviously I'm not expecting it to be a network sitcom or anything.  I just mean that I doubt it will be any where close to the depth and darkness of Breaking Bad, thus it makes more sense for me that it should take place before the events of the show.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Johnny Unusual on September 13, 2013, 06:47:37 PM
I actually am hoping for a bit of depth.  If it's a prequel, we might find that Saul started in a different place then where we see him now.  If it happens after the series, it might actually be a reverse Walter White story: end up becoming involved in a case where he can use his sleazy tactics to help a good person.  Vince Gilligan himself pointed out that as scummy as Saul is, he never tries to disguise who he is, like most of the characters in the show.  Maybe this will allow us to either see us lose his values or gain new ones, and in both cases, see his world thrown into chaos because of it.

Also, please bring back Bill Burr and put David Cross in a recurring role.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Thrifty Version II on September 15, 2013, 06:23:19 PM
 :'(

That is all.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Thrifty Version II on September 15, 2013, 07:06:31 PM
...Jesus Christ..

...that went from bad to worse to much worse.

That entire scene in the house was too intense.  Walt tried to do his usual thing--controlling through shouting and pleas of "trust me damnit!"--and it just didn't work this time.  I almost feel sorry for him.

I'm too wound up to sleep.  Poor Jesse.  That is just beyond awful.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Sugar Ray Dodge on September 15, 2013, 07:35:39 PM
WOW! I did NOT think that was gonna happen! Where does the story even go from here? I mean, yeah, Walt comes back to ABQ to cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war, but how are they gonna get there?

Also, I can't NOT root for Walt. I still want him to win.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Raven on September 15, 2013, 07:50:07 PM
Looks like Hank is the guest on next weeks Talking Bad.  Wonder if he's getting killed in this shootout.

Guess I called it. 

Is it me or was every single commercial break in the episode a potential cliffhanger for next weeks episode?  I was pausing and watching in between working and I thought the episode was seriously ending with Skylar yelling in the street.   

I don't see any way Jesse hasn't picked something up from Walt that's gonna help him escape unless he's still held captive in the gunfight that's coming.  It's pretty obvious that Todd and Co. are where the shootout is gonna go.   

Loved Walt Jr. saving Skylar.  Only complaint is that the Holly thing got a resolved a little too quickly. 

With Walt taking the new identity option, I wouldn't be surprised if we skip forward instead of picking up right where this episode ended. 

Oh yeah- Did anyone else notice Walt's pants from the Pilot episode sitting on the ground as Walt rolled the barrel?
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: JP on September 15, 2013, 08:49:08 PM
I was dead wrong about Hank.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Kete on September 15, 2013, 09:25:24 PM
My muscles are seriously sore after watching that because I was so tense the whole time.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Sugar Ray Dodge on September 15, 2013, 10:21:31 PM
Is anybody else willing to entertain the POSSIBILITY that when the DEA pull Hank and Gomez out of that hole, that its discovered that Hank is barely, and I mean BARELY alive?
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: MrTorso on September 15, 2013, 10:26:31 PM
Is anybody else willing to entertain the POSSIBILITY that when the DEA pull Hank and Gomez out of that hole, that its discovered that Hank is barely, and I mean BARELY alive?

Pretty sure they filled in the hole. Wasn't there a shot of Walt looking at the spot before he drove off??  Also no one other than those involved know the exact location.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Sugar Ray Dodge on September 15, 2013, 10:42:51 PM
Oh yeah, they totally filled it. But it seems like being buried alive might be something this show COULD do. Not saying it will happen, but it's dark as hell and because its so preposterous that the audience brushes off that it would be possible that it would be a major WTF moment in the history of the series. I'm willing to accept that Hank is more than likely dead and not coming back, but there's still that snowball's chance in hell that he could be BARELY alive down there.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Raven on September 16, 2013, 12:39:18 AM
Oh yeah, they totally filled it. But it seems like being buried alive might be something this show COULD do. Not saying it will happen, but it's dark as hell and because its so preposterous that the audience brushes off that it would be possible that it would be a major WTF moment in the history of the series. I'm willing to accept that Hank is more than likely dead and not coming back, but there's still that snowball's chance in hell that he could be BARELY alive down there.

This show has a lot of situations that you don't think a character will be able to get out of, and then find a creative way to do just that.  What it doesn't do is completely lie to you about facts like that.  If Hank were alive, it would completely undo all the good faith that they've built up over the years and completely flush it down the toilet.  And don't forget that Hank has already survived one serious gunshot wound that almost killed him.  That would be giving him super powers on top of having him be the intellectual equal to Walt.  A deliberate, point blank shot and a desert burial in an anonymous location should be enough to alleviate any doubt.  The only thing they didn't do was get out the plastic barrels and the acid.   

That's just from the standpoint of the show as it's own entity.  Separate from the show entirely, on "Talking Bad" the actor who plays Hank said his last scene in the series was the one take, three camera, set up of his execution.  He left the set and got on a plane a few hours later and was gone.  He's 100% dead.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Thrifty Version II on September 16, 2013, 01:58:16 AM
Is anybody else willing to entertain the POSSIBILITY that when the DEA pull Hank and Gomez out of that hole, that its discovered that Hank is barely, and I mean BARELY alive?
No, because this is Breaking Bad, not Walking Dead.

Your proposition is seriously one of the most ludicrously desperate things I ever heard...

1) It's been several hours.
2) It's the middle of the desert.
3) The DEA people have no clue where it happened.
4) Even if he'd been buried alive, he'd have died without the assistance of a gunshot.

They'd be lucky if they even found the corpse for his funeral at this rate.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: d00hickey on September 16, 2013, 02:51:42 AM
Oh yeah, they totally filled it. But it seems like being buried alive might be something this show COULD do. Not saying it will happen, but it's dark as hell and because its so preposterous that the audience brushes off that it would be possible that it would be a major WTF moment in the history of the series. I'm willing to accept that Hank is more than likely dead and not coming back, but there's still that snowball's chance in hell that he could be BARELY alive down there.

Not a chance, they showed the gun held to his head, the sound of gunfire, and Walt's reaction, not to mention the filled hole. If they did bring him back I would be very disappointed in the shows creators but they won't do that.     
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Johnny Unusual on September 16, 2013, 03:19:15 AM
Sugar Ray Dodge perhaps is confusing Hank with Machete (and even he died pretty definitively in this series).

I finally watched this one.  Holy shit that was powerful stuff.  How utterly heartbreaking is the phone call.  At first I thought that Walt meant it all, but it occurs to me that he figures it would be just easier if he just burned his final bridge to make it easier for his family to move on, perhaps his only truly selfless act since the series began.  Then again he is also so far gone that he has made speeches of that nature in all sincerity and I could totally see him doing that.  This guy is a genius, after all, but he be insanely childish.  What do you think?  I could see it as a moment of ambiguity that people could argue about long after the show was over.

Yeah, it looks like Walt's gonna find out about the blue meth and try to save Jesse, though considering how dark this series is he might not succeed (or he does and Jesse kills him because who wouldn't at this point).  Of course, this could also be a point of ambiguity that is never resolved.  Is he trying to save someone he's wronged so many times, or is he trying to kill the guy who fucked him over and who he blames for everything, because, Walt thinks, "it sure as hell ain't my fault."

I love that we never see the driver, even after someone finally utilizes him.  I like to think it is Vince Gilligan behind the wheel.

Things are happening faster than I expect, which I love.  Rather than waiting for the inevitable beats, it keeps putting characters in situations you have no idea how they'll be able to continue for longer.

I wonder how much, if any, time Skylar has to do?

Also, I'm hoping that the next episode is a general epilogue for the characters so far (I don't know what Walt Jr.'s gonna be up to, bt he sure as Hell ain't calling himself Walt Jr anymotr) and the last one has a pinpoint laser focus on Walt's last plot.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: ShadowDog on September 16, 2013, 04:46:07 AM
Walt's phone call to Skylar was about completely absolving her of any wrongdoing in the eyes of the law.

Not sure what's going to happen in the flash forward but unless you're Ar-nuld in an 80s action movie, an M-60 is a defensive weapon. You're not attacking anything with that.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Johnny Unusual on September 16, 2013, 05:13:07 AM
Yeah, in retrospect (from 3 hours ago) it seems more obvious to me now that this is the case.  Still, usually the more pessimistic assumption is the correct one in this show.  Can't wait to see how it ends.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: goflyblind on September 16, 2013, 06:41:44 AM
huh.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Thrifty Version II on September 16, 2013, 07:14:09 AM
The call was clearly acting; you could tell by the way he cried and destroyed his phone afterward.  The motivation is less clear.  I'm guessing it was to make him seem threatening enough that Skylar could angle for cooperating witness status.  They probably disappear into witness protection; that's why the house is fenced off and defaced.  Or Skylar goes to prison and the kids live with Marie.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: ShadowDog on September 16, 2013, 07:43:15 AM
Here's a question.  The real answer is "because they need a reason for Jesse to be kept alive."  And that's fine, whatever. 

But, really, if you just got 70 million dollars dropped in your lap why would you need to continue on with the highly illegal, high rate of getting busted and spending the rest of your life in prison act of cooking meth?  Especially since Uncle Hitler was just mocking the others for being greedy.  Dude, you got 70 million dollars!  You make, what, from each cook?  Half a million maybe?  There's so many ways to get busted cooking and transporting meth that I just don't see why its worth the risk at this point.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Thrifty Version II on September 16, 2013, 08:21:12 AM
Not sure what's going to happen in the flash forward but unless you're Ar-nuld in an 80s action movie, an M-60 is a defensive weapon. You're not attacking anything with that.

I don't think that most people know enough about firearms to notice a technical detail like that.  All they need for the shot is a weapon that looks scary.

I can't see Walt's actions being motivated by anything but revenge on Jack and his gang.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: ShadowDog on September 16, 2013, 08:28:27 AM
True. But once he tries to pick it up his back will be all like "LOL"
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Raven on September 16, 2013, 08:34:09 AM
I'm pretty sure that he's still trying to protect the family but at the same time there isn't a way to tell Skylar what he's doing in code.  If he weren't crying and trying to hold it back I would completely believe everything he said about Skylar, because none of it's actually wrong, from his point of view anyway.  I think the fact that he gave Holly up almost immediately makes it clear that he still trusts Skylar with his kids despite how hate filled his speech was.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Raven on September 16, 2013, 08:37:10 AM
Here's a question.  The real answer is "because they need a reason for Jesse to be kept alive."  And that's fine, whatever. 

But, really, if you just got 70 million dollars dropped in your lap why would you need to continue on with the highly illegal, high rate of getting busted and spending the rest of your life in prison act of cooking meth?  Especially since Uncle Hitler was just mocking the others for being greedy.  Dude, you got 70 million dollars!  You make, what, from each cook?  Half a million maybe?  There's so many ways to get busted cooking and transporting meth that I just don't see why its worth the risk at this point.

I'd be a little afraid of Lydia and her overseas buyers.  Not that they seem afraid of much, but they are just one part of the huge distribution line with some dangerous people on all fronts. 
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Sugar Ray Dodge on September 16, 2013, 09:00:12 AM
Just sayin'. Getting buried alive would be super messed up. But yeah, I think Hank is definitely dead for realsy.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: goflyblind on September 16, 2013, 10:19:11 AM
he's not dead, he moved under this dome thingy.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Kete on September 16, 2013, 12:24:17 PM
Walt knew that the cops were listening, and everything he said was just to protect Skylar.  He wants the cops to think that he forced her to help him and that she had no choice.  He tried to sound as horrible as possible to so that the cops would think that he was a monster, and that Skylar was terrified of him.  Skylar knew what he was doing.  You could see the look of gratitude on her face when she realized it.

Todd just wants to get the cook right.  He takes pride in it, and wants to be able to tell Lydia that he fixed it.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Sugar Ray Dodge on September 16, 2013, 02:08:51 PM
I'm fairly certain that Walt is going to be shooting up the Aryan Nation, and Jesse will most likely be standing beside him as he does it. I'm still holding out hope that Walt gets his family back, gets his money back and lives happily ever after. I want him to win. After the devastating losses of Ozymandias, it doesn't look like he'll be able to get any of it back, which would make it all the more awesome when he comes out on top and wins.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Thrifty Version II on September 16, 2013, 02:10:43 PM
I'm fairly certain that Walt is going to be shooting up the Aryan Nation, and Jesse will most likely be standing beside him as he does it. I'm still holding out hope that Walt gets his family back, gets his money back and lives happily ever after. I want him to win. After the devastating losses of Ozymandias, it doesn't look like he'll be able to get any of it back, which would make it all the more awesome when he comes out on top and wins.
You seriously need to go back and watch the first 8 episodes of the season (broadcast last year) if you're sympathizing with Walt or rooting for him.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: goflyblind on September 16, 2013, 02:20:03 PM
... so that the cops would think that he was a monster, and that Skylar was terrified of him.

but he is and she was.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Sugar Ray Dodge on September 16, 2013, 02:27:33 PM
I'm fairly certain that Walt is going to be shooting up the Aryan Nation, and Jesse will most likely be standing beside him as he does it. I'm still holding out hope that Walt gets his family back, gets his money back and lives happily ever after. I want him to win. After the devastating losses of Ozymandias, it doesn't look like he'll be able to get any of it back, which would make it all the more awesome when he comes out on top and wins.
You seriously need to go back and watch the first 8 episodes of the season (broadcast last year) if you're sympathizing with Walt or rooting for him.

I have. I stand by my statement.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: goflyblind on September 16, 2013, 02:32:22 PM
I'm fairly certain that Walt is going to be shooting up the Aryan Nation, and Jesse will most likely be standing beside him as he does it. I'm still holding out hope that Walt gets his family back, gets his money back and lives happily ever after. I want him to win. After the devastating losses of Ozymandias, it doesn't look like he'll be able to get any of it back, which would make it all the more awesome when he comes out on top and wins.
You seriously need to go back and watch the first 8 episodes of the season (broadcast last year) if you're sympathizing with Walt or rooting for him.

I have. I stand by my statement.

then you're a terrible human being.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: modelmeg on September 16, 2013, 02:32:41 PM
Walt is a villain now. I remember how sad I was when I realized that he was transforming from anti-hero into full on villain. I loved the old Walt. But that's the beauty of this show. You go on this journey into complete degradation with the main fucking character. How many other shows are actually bold enough to make you go from rooting into loathing the main character? And he's supposed to be loathed by now. I don't understand how some people are still rooting for him just like I don't understand how people can hate Skyler (really? The poor woman) or Jesse (yeah, he ratted. GOOD!) I mean, come on guys, just how many lives has Walt ruined? If you need two scenes that demonstrate just what a monster he's become, here they are:

1. Going to visit Andrea and Brock. The way he acted. The complete front of sincerity and civility as he stood in the kitchen of this young mother's house and covertly threatened their lives. All of this as he stood next to the child he had poisoned.

2. After revealing Jesse's whereabouts to the Nazis, he goes up to him and says the only thing that could destroy Jesse more than he already is. He could have prevented Jane's death and he didn't. Do you know why he said that? One part because he felt betrayed (HA!) and another part because he blamed Jesse for Hank's death. Walt never takes the blame. To him, everything he's done has been justified. That's the scary part.

This hour of television was one of the best I've ever seen. I have to admit that I was full of so much rage at what Walt was saying to Skyler over the phone that I actually didn't pick up the fact that he was only saying those things to help exonerate her. Now that I know this, that scene gets 10x more brilliant. As much as I love a few other shows that are up for Emmys (Justified and Walton Goggins, anyone?) I really think that Breaking Bad deserves the bulk of them this year.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: wurwolf on September 16, 2013, 02:38:55 PM
There's a review on Vulture that addresses a lot of things, among them the phone call Walt made to Skyler (and for god's sakes it's not "Skylar" already).  It gives a pretty compelling argument for the fact that this was done specifically to protect her and absolve her from wrong-doing in the eyes of the feds. It wasn't exactly a performance, as we've seen happen with this character -- Walt didn't sit down and rehearse this before calling her, as he did earlier in the episode -- but it was more of a split personality type of thing:

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The gist: I do not believe, as some are already speculating, that when Walter spews all that venom at Skyler while the feds and Marie and Walt, Jr. listen in, that it’s “really” Walt pretending to be Heisenberg — i.e. that it’s all some big fake-out. I think that’s Heisenberg speaking. But I think it’s Heisenberg speaking on Walt’s behalf. I think this might be one of those rare moments on Breaking Bad — the rescue of Jesse at the end of “Full Measures” being another — where Walter wants to do something that Walter is just not capable of doing, something chaotic and frightening but ultimately good, and Heisenberg steps up to make it happen.

I find it fascinating how divided the fans are on the character of Walter White. For some people, he crossed the line when he allowed Jane to die. For others, it was when he uttered the words, "Stay out of my territory." Others when he killed Gus, or poisoned Brock, or killed Mike, or any number of heinous acts he's done. And some are still rooting for him. Imagine if, at the beginning of the series, we knew everything about him that we know now, the despicable acts that mild-mannered Walter White will commit. Nope, we could all relate to him -- who hasn't had a shitty boss, who doesn't make enough money to cover their bills, who doesn't have something in their past that rankles them still? I think it's that relatability in the beginning of the series that pulled us in as far as the character is concerned, and at every horrible step of the way, we've managed to forgive him and justify his actions until the point where we have to get off the Walter White/Heisenberg love train and accept that he's become an irredeemable monster.

I also have never understood the fan vitriol that gets sent Skyler's way; she's not exactly blameless in any of this but I have always seen her as a woman caught in a tidal wave, grasping for anything that will keep her from being swept out to sea. The review also had this to say:

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I love how this scene is comprised mainly of the sorts of things that Skyler haters have been saying on message boards and in the comments sections of recaps since Breaking Bad debuted in 2008. It’s as if the show is using these same sentiments to rebut them: Walter’s voice is deeper and more monstrous, his tone more venomously cruel, than in any other exchange between him and Skyler. It takes the vicarious pleasure that some viewers take in the sight of milquetoast Walter White becoming The One Who Knocks and curdles it, makes it ugly, poisonous — as if the show is saying, “This is what you wanted, isn’t it? Here you go. Choke on it.”

Anyway, it's a good review, so here's the link: http://www.vulture.com/2013/09/breaking-bad-recap-season-5-hank-dies-ozymandias.html
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Sugar Ray Dodge on September 16, 2013, 03:00:35 PM
I'm fairly certain that Walt is going to be shooting up the Aryan Nation, and Jesse will most likely be standing beside him as he does it. I'm still holding out hope that Walt gets his family back, gets his money back and lives happily ever after. I want him to win. After the devastating losses of Ozymandias, it doesn't look like he'll be able to get any of it back, which would make it all the more awesome when he comes out on top and wins.
You seriously need to go back and watch the first 8 episodes of the season (broadcast last year) if you're sympathizing with Walt or rooting for him.

I have. I stand by my statement.

then you're a terrible human being.

Yes, I agree, my hair is gorgeous, isn't it? It's a lot of work somedays, but you gotta do what you gotta do when you're as pretty as I am. Thanks for your kind words.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: JimJ on September 16, 2013, 03:01:24 PM
I'm rooting for Walt in the sense that I hope he can come back and put things right.  Take out Uncle Jack and creepy fucking Todd and save Jesse.  Then I want Jesse to shoot Walt in the fucking face.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Raven on September 16, 2013, 03:06:55 PM
I don't get the sentiment of rooting for anyone.  I just want to be shown an interesting story and letting the creators tell the story they want to tell. 
 
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Sugar Ray Dodge on September 16, 2013, 03:16:50 PM
I don't get the sentiment of rooting for anyone.  I just want to be shown an interesting story and letting the creators tell the story they want to tell.

Exactly right. I'm rooting for Walter because him winning would make for compelling television. And when you take a character as low as they took him last night, the only place they can go is up. Like a Phoenix rising from the ashes to avenge hank, save Jesse and reclaim his family against all odds. How could that not be awesome?
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Kete on September 16, 2013, 03:18:04 PM
Yay!  Hi wurwolf!
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Raven on September 16, 2013, 03:27:33 PM
Exactly right. I'm rooting for Walter because him winning would make for compelling television. And when you take a character as low as they took him last night, the only place they can go is up. Like a Phoenix rising from the ashes to avenge hank, save Jesse and reclaim his family against all odds. How could that not be awesome?

Could not disagree with this sentiment further.  Most television shows tend to end on a high note no matter how dark they're trying to be.  No main character is ever cut down in the end.  The one show tailor made to kill off the main character "24" couldn't even do it.  If this is truly turning Mr. Chips into Scarface, Scarface dies in the end.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Sugar Ray Dodge on September 16, 2013, 03:34:53 PM
Looks like I'm all alone on Team Walt over here. That's okay, though. If that's the worst thing that happens to me today, I can live with that.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Kete on September 16, 2013, 03:36:03 PM
Do you guys think that maybe Jane is still alive?
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Sugar Ray Dodge on September 16, 2013, 03:38:11 PM
Do you guys think that maybe Jane is still alive?

Oooh. I like how you think.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: goflyblind on September 16, 2013, 03:48:15 PM
Do you guys think that maybe Jane is still alive?

she moved into a new york apartment with an adorable blonde.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Raven on September 16, 2013, 03:54:16 PM
Looks like I'm all alone on Team Walt over here. That's okay, though. If that's the worst thing that happens to me today, I can live with that.

I'm ok with Walt trying to redeem himself somehow, but actually letting him get a happy ending where all is forgiven on the part of his family and Jesse would feel ridiculous. 
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Sugar Ray Dodge on September 16, 2013, 04:16:09 PM
Looks like I'm all alone on Team Walt over here. That's okay, though. If that's the worst thing that happens to me today, I can live with that.

I'm ok with Walt trying to redeem himself somehow, but actually letting him get a happy ending where all is forgiven on the part of his family and Jesse would feel ridiculous.

There have been far more ridiculous series finales in television history, but I do see what you're saying. I can wish for it all I want, but I know I probably won't get the ending I want. In fact, I don't think anybody in the audience or any character on the show will come out getting everything they wanted when the series started. Vince Gilligan has even said that it will be divisive and controversial, but most of all, definitive. I'm almost half-hoping they shot a gag ending that will air after the show is over or on Talking Bad where the whole thing was just a dream of Hal's from Malcom in the Middle.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: eegah on September 16, 2013, 04:18:14 PM
Here's a question.  The real answer is "because they need a reason for Jesse to be kept alive."  And that's fine, whatever. 

But, really, if you just got 70 million dollars dropped in your lap why would you need to continue on with the highly illegal, high rate of getting busted and spending the rest of your life in prison act of cooking meth?  Especially since Uncle Hitler was just mocking the others for being greedy.  Dude, you got 70 million dollars!  You make, what, from each cook?  Half a million maybe?  There's so many ways to get busted cooking and transporting meth that I just don't see why its worth the risk at this point.

I'd be a little afraid of Lydia and her overseas buyers.  Not that they seem afraid of much, but they are just one part of the huge distribution line with some dangerous people on all fronts.

Todd just wants to impress Lydia so that he can get her in the sack. The Aryans obviously didn't care about making meth anymore, since they weren't trying to get Walt to cook and were willing to kill the only other person who could cook as well (Jesse). Todd is doing this to get Lydia.

Walt is a villain now.

The thing is, Walt has always been a villain. Heisenberg is his true self; he only played the part of a good guy.

Perhaps Heisenberg is all of our true selves, if history is any judge. Perhaps that is the point that Vince Gilligan is trying to make.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Raven on September 16, 2013, 04:27:02 PM
Todd just wants to impress Lydia so that he can get her in the sack. The Aryans obviously didn't care about making meth anymore, since they weren't trying to get Walt to cook and were willing to kill the only other person who could cook as well (Jesse). Todd is doing this to get Lydia.

Wouldn't Todd just toss Lydia in a seperate holding cell.


Just thought of something else   Huell is gonna die of starvation in that hotel room.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: lassieface on September 16, 2013, 04:40:18 PM
That was an exceptional piece of television. Honestly, the most tense I've ever been watching a show before. It was like an hour long panic attack.

(http://31.media.tumblr.com/cf53fb5fe7efac72a9774bdeaf69addf/tumblr_mq278hJci31s19oe6o1_500.jpg)

Somebody on Reddit pointed out that Walt technically dug Hank's grave. I absolutely loved how they officially took everything away from Walt this episode. His money, his family, Jesse: it's all gone. Which leaves me wondering why he comes back.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Sugar Ray Dodge on September 16, 2013, 04:49:12 PM
Todd just wants to impress Lydia so that he can get her in the sack. The Aryans obviously didn't care about making meth anymore, since they weren't trying to get Walt to cook and were willing to kill the only other person who could cook as well (Jesse). Todd is doing this to get Lydia.

Wouldn't Todd just toss Lydia in a seperate holding cell.


Just thought of something else   Huell is gonna die of starvation in that hotel room.

If they threw her in a cell, they'd have to beat her senseless like Jesse, then she wouldn't be nearly as attractive. Maybe there's something of a woman wanting you of her own free will that appeals to Todd, but I'm just spitballing here. And yeah, my brother and I were saying the same thing about Huell this morning.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Bob on September 16, 2013, 05:45:12 PM
All I can think was......damn that was great
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Thrifty Version II on September 16, 2013, 06:03:32 PM
Bet you anything Jesse blows up the meth lab during a cook.  Remember the flashback scene at the beginning of Sunday's episode where Walt warns Jesse not to smoke in the RV during their first cook?  The show loves to drop subtle foreshadowing like that, and meth labs are prone to explosions.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Thrifty Version II on September 16, 2013, 06:04:26 PM
I'm fairly certain that Walt is going to be shooting up the Aryan Nation, and Jesse will most likely be standing beside him as he does it. I'm still holding out hope that Walt gets his family back, gets his money back and lives happily ever after. I want him to win. After the devastating losses of Ozymandias, it doesn't look like he'll be able to get any of it back, which would make it all the more awesome when he comes out on top and wins.
You seriously need to go back and watch the first 8 episodes of the season (broadcast last year) if you're sympathizing with Walt or rooting for him.

I have. I stand by my statement.
No, I meant the first 8 episodes of the season of THIS show.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Raven on September 16, 2013, 06:23:27 PM
Somebody on Reddit pointed out that Walt technically dug Hank's grave. I absolutely loved how they officially took everything away from Walt this episode. His money, his family, Jesse: it's all gone. Which leaves me wondering why he comes back.

I'm guessing that the feds somehow get onto the meth crew and they come after the family when they can't find Walt.  Either that or Skyler gets publically humiliated and charged for her involvement and that brings him out of hiding.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Sugar Ray Dodge on September 16, 2013, 06:25:04 PM
I'm fairly certain that Walt is going to be shooting up the Aryan Nation, and Jesse will most likely be standing beside him as he does it. I'm still holding out hope that Walt gets his family back, gets his money back and lives happily ever after. I want him to win. After the devastating losses of Ozymandias, it doesn't look like he'll be able to get any of it back, which would make it all the more awesome when he comes out on top and wins.
You seriously need to go back and watch the first 8 episodes of the season (broadcast last year) if you're sympathizing with Walt or rooting for him.

I have. I stand by my statement.
No, I meant the first 8 episodes of the season of THIS show.

We are talking about Breaking Bad, right? The show where Bryan Cranston pwns everybody who crosses him? If THAT'S the show we're talking about, then yes, we're on the same page. Look, I just want the show to be awesome, that's all. And the show is at it's awesomest when Heisenberg wins. That really is all I'm saying.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: wurwolf on September 16, 2013, 06:25:54 PM
I read a lot of reviews and comments on Breaking Bad (the AV Club's review comments thread is surprisingly smart) and I find it amusing that there has been no mention of who is wearing what color in this episode. Usually that's one of the most discussed topics on this show, but so much balls out hardcore shit happened this time around that character color discussion has been shelved.

Also this, which was taken on the last day of shooting, broke my heart just a little.

(http://31.media.tumblr.com/5098ff3fc9b8e25e0700912666e4684e/tumblr_mt8w9x6zGk1qzpxx1o1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Sugar Ray Dodge on September 16, 2013, 06:27:27 PM
Somebody on Reddit pointed out that Walt technically dug Hank's grave. I absolutely loved how they officially took everything away from Walt this episode. His money, his family, Jesse: it's all gone. Which leaves me wondering why he comes back.

I'm guessing that the feds somehow get onto the meth crew and they come after the family when they can't find Walt.  Either that or Skyler gets publically humiliated and charged for her involvement and that brings him out of hiding.

I, too, have been wondering what the path to the finale is from here. It'll probably be something none of us thought of, because I sure as hell didn't think Hank was gonna die last night. But this theory is pretty solid.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Johnny Unusual on September 16, 2013, 06:28:26 PM
So much to comment on.

Though I disagree with Sugar Ray (the face that SRD just unironically used the "word" "pwns" and doesn't seem to understand that this show is a TRAGEDY is evidence enough of that), I totally understand rooting for a character.  It means you're invested in them and are concerned for them.  I can think of cases of otherwise flawed movies, comics and shows where the show's ability to make me root for a character has saved otherwise shoddy story-telling, or at least has kept me with it long enough that I can't simply dismiss it.  I don't want to see Walt come up on top now (and he certainly hasn't), but when he was going head to head with Walt, I wanted to see him overcome his weaknesses and pull it together to beat Gus.  And it wasn't even because I disliked Gus (he's terrifying, but he's certainly a charismatic villain and had more of a head on his shoulders than the erratic yet brilliant Walt), but rather I wanted to see Walt accomplish the impossible.

I will NEVER get the anti-Skyler crowd, unless it's also because they feel the same way about Walt times 10.  Skyler, especially in seasons 3 and 4 was possibly the show's most sympathetic character, even when turning bad.  She also was more even headed than Walter, focusing on keeping their stories consistent and trying to make this awful thing laid on her family's doorstep work.  It's like people are upset that someone is questioning their husband who is a criminal, a liar and a bully.  I usually don't want to generalize so I apologize in advance, but I get the feeling that a lot of the anti-Skyler people have some really warped values.

As for Todd's motivation: he likes Lydia, but the thing about Todd is, ironically, he's sort of Walt's model student.  He's not smart (until recently) and he's kind of a screw up but he's also loyal as a puppy (in his own messed up way) and while Walt was kind of lukewarm on the guy personally, he inspired Todd to apply himself.  He's not a model student in a straight A sense, but he is trying to overcome his weaknesses and now the meth business is all about pride for him.  He probably didn't do well in school and he probably wasn't so great at crime (at least compared to his colleges), so he now has something he can feel proud of.

I love that he went from a character who was designed to be hated by the fans, to a character who sort of step out from his mentor's shadow to be his own man (of course, he did steal a bit of the shadow for himself.  Talk about a fucked up version of "Study Group").  He reminds me of a comic called Sleeper.  The premise of Sleeper is about a secret agent who "defects" to go undercover in a super-villain syndicate.  He starts working with a guy called Pitbull who has no powers but is a Wolverine-type scrapper.  Anyway, when Pitbull finds that the main character's ex-wife is on a mission, he kidnaps her and delivers her to the protagonists doorstep as a gift.  Like a pitbull, he's violent, mean, loyal and just wants to be liked.  I think we are going to find the Todd and Lydia relationship go a similar path: Todd's not going to figure out that Lydia isn't interested in such a dangerous man, but Todd's not going to get it, thinking "didn't you want this?  Aren't I helping you?"  I don't think he is going to turn that into wanting to hurt Lydia.  I think he likes her too much.

BTW, I think that Raven said that there were very few really unhappy endings to TV series.  I can think a good number, even if you don't count shows that ended on cliffhangers.

So here are my three predictions:

1. Walt goes and helps Jesse, gets a small (very small) measure of redemption and dies.  Might not be as hopeful an ending as it sounds and it mind remind us that despite that measure, he is responsible for so much horror.

2.  Walt attempts redemption and fails (like maybe Jesse has been dead quite some time and Todd actually figured out the formula, or Jesse is not so forgiving)

3. We assume Walt is trying to save Jessie, but he actually wants to kill him.  I don't quite buy that, despite his current hate of him, since I also feel that Walt actually cares for Jessie or at least did.  Then again, it could be a brilliant fake out and his real desire to take out Jessie to be seeded in the last two episodes.

But my main theory is the first one.  I also have this theory: One day, one of the Aryans drop dead.  Later Walt approaches the Aryans and tries to bargain for Jesse.  They agree to a cook or something, simply because the cooks are so iconic to the show, I refuse to believe there won't be one more montage.  Anyway, it turns out there is no negotiating with these guys.  But Walt learned that already from Hank.  Walt stalls and suddenly everyone starts dropping dead (or at least the main guys).  Walt played a long game.  Ricin can take about a week to work.  Walt has actually been in town for a while.  He got a job as a dishwasher in a diner the Aryan's frequent and poisoned them a long while before coming in.  From then Walt either dies saving Jesse or they both make it and Jesse is the last guy to watch Walt dies... and then whispers to him "I will never forgive you."
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: goflyblind on September 16, 2013, 06:37:06 PM
there's still time for baby-meth-kingpin*. that's what i'm hoping for.


* now that i think about it, i'm not sure which hyphen i want to keep.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Johnny Unusual on September 16, 2013, 06:38:06 PM
Baby-Meth!  The Meth for Babies!  At least they won't worry about losing their teeth.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Raven on September 16, 2013, 06:44:56 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if they end it with Walt getting away with everything but having the Walt Jr. get killed.  Walt would be a free man but Skyler and Walt would have to live with the death of the only purely good person in the series(now that Gomez is gone anyway) weighing on them and taking away a main part of the family Walt did this for.  If this is a tragedy in it's truest form then it would fit to have Walt lose the one thing that was most important to him when this all started, and be the cause of it.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Sugar Ray Dodge on September 16, 2013, 06:45:48 PM
I agree with everything you said except the part where I don't understand that it's supposed to be a tragedy. I know the for real deal, trust me. I'm just enjoying the show on my own terms, that's all. :)
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Sugar Ray Dodge on September 16, 2013, 06:47:29 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if they end it with Walt getting away with everything but having the Walt Jr. get killed.  Walt would be a free man but Skyler and Walt would have to live with the death of the only purely good person in the series(now that Gomez is gone anyway) weighing on them and taking away a main part of the family Walt did this for.  If this is a tragedy in it's truest form then it would fit to have Walt lose the one thing that was most important to him when this all started, and be the cause of it.

I actually had this same thought about Walt Jr. I think I would be very upset if they killed him, actually.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Raven on September 16, 2013, 07:00:23 PM
I have no clue what's going to happen from here on out but I'm betting that Hank wasn't the last main character to get killed. 
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Johnny Unusual on September 16, 2013, 07:34:26 PM
Wait, you don't mean... BOGDAN WOLYNETZ!

(http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130808015308/breakingbad/images/b/ba/Bogdan_Wolynetz.png)

NOOOOOOOOOOO!
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Variety of Cells on September 16, 2013, 07:40:34 PM
I want to agree that we will jump forward in time next episode, but there is a lot with Jesse's story line that demands more immediate attention.  So I'm not sure.  Maybe not right away.

Great episode though.  I was very much rooting against Walt all last season, that's where I felt he crossed the line.  And then I didn't much care for him this season either.  But they were smart to start the episode with the flash back.  It made me miss the old Walt a bit, and I was much more ready to feel bad for him during his phone call with Skyler.  Was happy to see he wasn't a complete monster, though I believed he was at the beginning of the call.
Title: WHA?!
Post by: Sugar Ray Dodge on September 16, 2013, 08:12:12 PM
Wait, you don't mean... BOGDAN WOLYNETZ!

(http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130808015308/breakingbad/images/b/ba/Bogdan_Wolynetz.png)

NOOOOOOOOOOO!

FUCK YOUR EYEBROWS!
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: ShadowDog on September 16, 2013, 08:16:26 PM
I can't use the quote function for some reason so this is what Raven said that I want to reply to:

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I'm guessing that the feds somehow get onto the meth crew and they come after the family when they can't find Walt.

This is why I was saying that it's retarded to keep cooking meth when you just got a SEVENTY MILLION DOLLAR PAYDAY.  You cook meth to make money, but you already have more money than you could ever spend, and you can't spend money in prison than buying ramen soup at the commissary ... so why in the Hell would you keep cooking meth?  It's deeply fucking stupid.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Sugar Ray Dodge on September 16, 2013, 08:23:11 PM
I can't use the quote function for some reason so this is what Raven said that I want to reply to:

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I'm guessing that the feds somehow get onto the meth crew and they come after the family when they can't find Walt.

This is why I was saying that it's retarded to keep cooking meth when you just got a SEVENTY MILLION DOLLAR PAYDAY.  You cook meth to make money, but you already have more money than you could ever spend, and you can't spend money in prison than buying ramen soup at the commissary ... so why in the Hell would you keep cooking meth?  It's deeply fucking stupid.

There's some trick you gotta adjust in your profile setting. I had the same problem. Let me see if I can remember it...
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Sugar Ray Dodge on September 16, 2013, 08:31:36 PM
I can't use the quote function for some reason so this is what Raven said that I want to reply to:

Quote
I'm guessing that the feds somehow get onto the meth crew and they come after the family when they can't find Walt.

This is why I was saying that it's retarded to keep cooking meth when you just got a SEVENTY MILLION DOLLAR PAYDAY.  You cook meth to make money, but you already have more money than you could ever spend, and you can't spend money in prison than buying ramen soup at the commissary ... so why in the Hell would you keep cooking meth?  It's deeply fucking stupid.

There's some trick you gotta adjust in your profile setting. I had the same problem. Let me see if I can remember it...

Okay, I wanna say that you go into Profile: Look at Layout. Go to the options for "Use quick reply on topic display" and choose the "don't show at all" option. That should fix the problem.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: ShadowDog on September 16, 2013, 08:42:30 PM
Thanks man!
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Johnny Unusual on September 16, 2013, 08:52:27 PM
First of all, maybe the rest of the Aryans moved on, maybe not, but it doesn't mean the business dies.  And for a lot of these characters it isn't just about the money.  It wasn't about the money for Walt near the end.  It was about his empire.  But then his empire became another 9 to 5 job.  He didn't quit because he has all the money.  He quit because he was done.  The money made him realize he doesn't need to work anymore.  He also had ridiculous amounts of money when everyone was willing to sell for 5 million dollars.  He was thinking about billions, but again it's not money for using, it was about pride status and power.  And I think that is something that Todd is interested in.  Or at least he was interested in making Lydia happy, who he clearly cares for.  Logically, the whole business is about making money, but never underestimate greed and pride, especially when you set them against logic.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: d00hickey on September 16, 2013, 09:14:26 PM
I noticed near the end in the last episode Todd was the only guy pulling Jesse out of the pit. Do you think Todd's uncle and the gang left town (they did score almost 70 million dollars) and Todd is starting his own empire? I have a suspicion this whole thing is going to end with Todd on top and everyone else dead or in prison. Any thoughts?
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Sugar Ray Dodge on September 16, 2013, 09:17:39 PM
I noticed near the end in the last episode Todd was the only guy pulling Jesse out of the pit. Do you think Todd's uncle and the gang left town (they did score almost 70 million dollars) and Todd is starting his own empire? I have a suspicion this whole thing is going to end with Todd on top and everyone else dead or in prison. Any thoughts?

Maybe. They brought the operation back to ABQ, so leaving again would be odd from a storytelling standpoint, but it is something interesting to think about going into the last two episodes. Maybe Walt shows up to blow them all away and it's just Jesse and Todd. What then?
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Johnny Unusual on September 16, 2013, 09:30:59 PM
Yeah, it could just be Todd.  He's a surprisingly sentimental guy, so it would surprise me if Jesse is more willing to kill Walt then Todd is during the attack.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: d00hickey on September 16, 2013, 09:31:54 PM
I just have a strong suspicion the climax of the show will revolve around Todd.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Sugar Ray Dodge on September 16, 2013, 09:38:56 PM
I just have a strong suspicion the climax of the show will revolve around Todd.

If I had to guess, I would think that at least the next episode would feature him and Lydia heavily, with the finale focusing more on the established characters like Walt, Jesse, Skylar and Saul, but given how grossly wrong I was about this last episode (I figured only Gomez would actually eat it because you GOTTA have Hank in the finale,) I've decided to stop trying to actually predict the show. Sure, I can say what I'd LIKE to see happen, but this show throws us curveballs like you wouldn't believe, especially with Hank's death happening in the third to last episode, so it would be pointless (for me at least,) to try to make predictions.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Johnny Unusual on September 16, 2013, 10:22:30 PM
The call was clearly acting; you could tell by the way he cried and destroyed his phone afterward.

Yeah, but you realize characters break their phones all the time on that show, not out of emotion, but out of necessity.  The characters use prepaid phone that they smash so they can't be traced.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Sugar Ray Dodge on September 16, 2013, 10:29:36 PM
The call was clearly acting; you could tell by the way he cried and destroyed his phone afterward.

Yeah, but you realize characters break their phones all the time on that show, not out of emotion, but out of necessity.  The characters use prepaid phone that they smash so they can't be traced.

Is it just me, or do they crack A LOT of cell phones in half on this show. I wonder how many prop phones they have built to be destroyed in that exact manner episode after episode. Almost all the major players have done it at least once, Walt, Saul, Mike, Gus. It's just one of those continuing motifs, breaking phones that nobody has used in five years in half.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Johnny Unusual on September 16, 2013, 10:39:13 PM
Yes, they break phones because they want to distance themselves from those phones, which they have just said something sensitive on and want to make them untraceable.  Some people have suggested that the characters should be destroying SIM cards, but there's also a possibility that they are using a kind of prepaid cell that doesn't use them.  Now if you mean they all break them the same way, that's because it's the easiest way to break them.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Sugar Ray Dodge on September 16, 2013, 10:41:45 PM
Yes, they break phones because they want to distance themselves from those phones, which they have just said something sensitive on and want to make them untraceable.  Some people have suggested that the characters should be destroying SIM cards, but there's also a possibility that they are using a kind of prepaid cell that doesn't use them.  Now if you mean they all break them the same way, that's because it's the easiest way to break them.

Oh for sure. For some reason its fascinating to me from a production standpoint, I can't explain why. It's odd that something like that strikes me as one of the show's hallmarks.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Johnny Unusual on September 16, 2013, 10:58:24 PM
We'll never again hear him say my favourite catchphrase "Hank, that's French!"
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: RoninFox on September 17, 2013, 12:13:19 AM
Bet you anything Jesse blows up the meth lab during a cook.  Remember the flashback scene at the beginning of Sunday's episode where Walt warns Jesse not to smoke in the RV during their first cook?  The show loves to drop subtle foreshadowing like that, and meth labs are prone to explosions.

I thought that almost immediately when I saw Todd chaining him up in the lab, but then they showed that picture of Brock and Andrea that was obviously a warning.  It might happen, but not until Jesse knows those two are somehow safe.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Variety of Cells on September 17, 2013, 05:31:10 AM
I was speechless during this episode. Oddly enough, I miss Gomez the most. I knew Hank was done for as he struggled to reach Gomez' gun and the Aryans quickly closed the distance. The irony of Marie telling Skyler how things were going to play out (wearing black!) , Walt's new low (Jane.) , Walt Jr. protecting his mother. After all that is said and done, it's Todd's demeanor that makes my skin crawl.

Todd is pretty creepy. Really sweet and innocent on the outside, but capable of doing horrible things without feeling bad about it. But the big thing is that he never shows malice. He just goes about the horrible things in his sweet, innocent, disconnected way.  He's turned out to be an interesting character.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Kete on September 17, 2013, 06:36:00 AM
I always thought that all the phones were just poorly made, and they were breaking on accident.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: eegah on September 17, 2013, 07:47:58 AM
I just realized that Todd saved both Walt and Jesse's lives in this episode. Go Todd!  ;)
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: eegah on September 18, 2013, 05:07:24 PM
The last two episodes will be "extra long" (75 minutes instead of 60):

http://www.rollingstone.com/movies/news/breaking-bad-final-episodes-will-be-extra-long-20130918
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Thrifty Version II on September 18, 2013, 05:34:18 PM
The last episode is titled "Felina", a reference to this song (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIHRgisdbeY).  I wonder what the significance of that is.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Johnny Unusual on September 18, 2013, 07:10:31 PM
Well, if that is the song it is specifically referencing (and listening to it, that seems very likely), the song is about 2 people who fight over a girl.  The singer kills the rival and then goes on the run, fearing death and justice.  But he needs to return to the girl Felina, facing certain death.  And then he dies with Felina kissing his cheek.  So much of this story covers the season so far:  Felina (Jesse) flirts with a new man (Hank) and there is a fight. The rival dies and the singer flees.  That's where we finished.  So based on the song, it sounds like what we all expected: Walt is coming back for Jesse (presumably also taking the time to spy on loved ones so we can see how they moved on through his eyes, the way the singer looks onto his hometown with longing.  Of course, maybe he's just checking in on them by using the internet or something.  But Walt needs to go back for Jesse and dies, either by the cancer or by whoever he needs to face to save Jesse.  Jesse either forgives Walt or shows him sympathy as he dies (or it twists the end of the song by having a "kiss on the cheek" gets replaced with spitting on his face).

Of course, that's all fairly general.  Can't wait to see the details!  TWO MORE EPISODES!  And you know that the cliffhanger next weeks is going to make you even more crazy than the last one!
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Johnny Unusual on September 18, 2013, 09:30:46 PM
Oh and George RR Martin basically just said "Fuck, we ain't getting an Emmy this year, and rightly so."

http://grrm.livejournal.com/337511.html
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: ShadowDog on September 19, 2013, 04:05:40 AM
Very interesting about the song! I always knew Jesse was the bottom in that relationship.

George R R Martin's comments on other TV shows are always on point. LOL
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Johnny Unusual on September 19, 2013, 04:45:25 AM
Very interesting about the song! I always knew Jesse was the bottom in that relationship.

How ironic, bitch!
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: ShadowDog on September 19, 2013, 01:52:55 PM
another theory I've seen is that Felina is just an anagram for Finale.  I'd be disappointed if that's all it is. That's weaksauce.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Sugar Ray Dodge on September 19, 2013, 04:23:04 PM
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/0a1bfa12551b8ec0aacd09ae05818f23/tumblr_mtebe6BZOo1s0719ho1_1280.png)
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Johnny Unusual on September 19, 2013, 05:52:55 PM
another theory I've seen is that Felina is just an anagram for Finale.  I'd be disappointed if that's all it is. That's weaksauce.

Can't it be both?

They have toyed with word play titles before.  The only reason the season 4 episode was called Face Off was because someone joked to Vince Gilligan should use the name because of this...

(http://starcasm.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/Gustavo-Fring-death-scene4.jpg)

...and he did.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Thrifty Version II on September 19, 2013, 06:00:32 PM
another theory I've seen is that Felina is just an anagram for Finale.  I'd be disappointed if that's all it is. That's weaksauce.
it might have a double meaning.  the theme of the song is that a man commits a serious crime, then disappears to evade the consequences.  which is what Walt did.  then he returns to the scene of the crime because he can't help it, and is killed.  which seems to be where this is headed.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: ShadowDog on September 20, 2013, 04:45:57 AM
Yeah I agree. The song lines up nicely.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Johnny Unusual on September 20, 2013, 06:10:44 AM
Also, it's just a really good song.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: goflyblind on September 20, 2013, 06:29:40 AM
you know what song they should've had playing when the van pulls up?

http://www.youtube.com/v/lgGKSjiw0HQ
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: wurwolf on September 20, 2013, 10:21:33 AM
So I've been reading lots and lots of reviews and articles about "Ozymandias" and Breaking Bad in general. I just finished reading this piece (http://www.pajiba.com/think_pieces/sympathy-for-the-devil-why-its-crucial-that-you-still-like-walter-white.php), entitled "Sympathy for the Devil: Why It's Crucial That You Still Like Walter White". It says this, among other things:

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We relate to Walter more than we’d like. We understand the very human emotions behind his inhuman actions. Walt’s world view is uncomfortable but at times sympathetic. As creator Vince Gilligan recently said: “It’s complicated. You should have ambivalent feelings about who to root for here.

Here's another article (http://www.vulture.com/2013/09/seitz-breaking-bad-walter-white-apologists-phone-call.html) in the same vein from Vulture, which says this:

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By which I mean yes, of course, the phone call was a performance! We all know that! But like all performances, and like all convincing lies, it drew on true emotions, deep resentments. It was a magma-hot blast from Walt's id, even if in that moment the id was helping the superego put across a lie intended to exonerate Skyler and put all the legal heat on Walt. As my friend Mark Johnson put it, "As Heisenberg, he hates her. As Walt, he loves her. He was having a shared moment with his alter ego."

If find this shared identity the most fascinating thing about Walter White. I would call it a split personality except that the two personalities -- Walter and Heisenberg -- are more like two sides of the same coin rather than separate individuals. With him, when a job needs to be done one steps up while the other recedes. I love how heartbreakingly this was portrayed by the telephone call.

Also, here's a tumblr post that has a listing of some of the more intriguing articles about Breaking Bad. Rolling Stone's Q&A with the actors is particularly enjoyable.

http://heisenbergchronicles.tumblr.com/post/61764098201/5x14-breaking-bad-reader-roundup-of-the-best
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Post by: Sugar Ray Dodge on September 20, 2013, 11:36:23 AM
I'm kind of hoping that we learn more about Jack and his gang in the next couple of episodes in flashback form, like when he learned about Gus, the Salamancas and other supporting characters. I mean, yeah, they're neo-Nazi murderers, but I'd still like to know more about their history if they are going to be the main antagonists of the last season. I'd also like to see some of the killed-off characters in flashback form one more time before the show ends, Gus, Mike, Gale, Jane, and Hank for that matter. Maybe show them interacting with new characters like Lydia and Jack to tie everything up in a nice bow, showing that they were part of the story all along. And since the last episodes are going to be extra-long, there's no reason not to.

But even if they don't do all those things, I've decided that I'm going to like the finale no matter what. Vince Gilligan, the writers and the writers are all pleased with it, so even though I'd like to see Walt standing on top of a pile of bodies of all those who crossed him, I'll be satisfied with whatever ending they felt was appropriate for the story.
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Post by: Kete on September 20, 2013, 12:04:18 PM
One reason to still like Walt....he honestly tried to pay $80 million to save Hank's life.  His entire empire wasn't worth as much to him as Hank's life.  I was just thinking that Jesse witnessed this exchange.  This may be crucial information in the future.

I don't think that Walt will survive this, but they may try to exonerate him in his family's eyes.
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Post by: eegah on September 20, 2013, 12:33:37 PM
One of the prizes today on The Price is Right was a trip to Belize. Luckily for her, the lady overbid.

another theory I've seen is that Felina is just an anagram for Finale.  I'd be disappointed if that's all it is. That's weaksauce.

And we prefer our sauce to be BOLD!
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Post by: Thrifty Version II on September 20, 2013, 12:52:54 PM
Walt does still have cancer, and since his hair has grown out I'm guessing he decided to stop treatment.  Still think he's gonna dose himself with the ricin.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Sugar Ray Dodge on September 20, 2013, 01:51:22 PM
Walt does still have cancer, and since his hair has grown out I'm guessing he decided to stop treatment.  Still think he's gonna dose himself with the ricin.

I doubt this will happen. Walt isn't the kinda guy who would commit suicide. He wants to live to reap the benefits of his actions if he can. I think the ricin will be used in a way we won't see coming.
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Post by: Kete on September 20, 2013, 02:21:51 PM
I think the ricin will be used in a way we won't see coming.

This?

(http://snakeoilcartoon.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Ricin_Krispies.jpg)
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Post by: Raven on September 20, 2013, 02:37:58 PM
Walt does still have cancer, and since his hair has grown out I'm guessing he decided to stop treatment.  Still think he's gonna dose himself with the ricin.

If he's on the run with a new identity doesn't that explain why he's not on the chemo anymore.  His scheduled treatments aren't an option for his new identity and getting treatments set up under his new I.D. wouldn't be easy either.  It's not like there are black market chemotherapy centers that you can just buy treatments from and he's on his own now without any contacts to try to find a shady doctor that could help him.   

I agree with SRD that Walt won't commit suicide unless there's no other option.  The only way I could see Walt taking the Ricen himself is if Skyler winds up being charged with all of his crimes and he takes it before turning himself in, confessing to exonerate her, and then dying in custody.  And all of this is assuming he's already dealt with Todd and Co. and the Jesse story has resolved itself.  In my eyes that would be one of the weaker ways the story could go but I could see it. 
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Johnny Unusual on September 20, 2013, 06:00:03 PM
How Sugar Ray Dodge expects things to go.

http://www.avclub.com/articles/heres-what-happened-to-hank-after-redacted-on-last,103184/
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Post by: Sugar Ray Dodge on September 20, 2013, 06:22:05 PM
How Sugar Ray Dodge expects things to go.

http://www.avclub.com/articles/heres-what-happened-to-hank-after-redacted-on-last,103184/

No, I don't expect that. That would be way too awesome for a show that has fans that take it way too seriously.
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Post by: Thrifty Version II on September 22, 2013, 04:36:04 PM
Considered skipping tonight's episode and watching it with the finale next week.  Realized I don't even have the self control to wait 20 minutes so I can let the DVR cache enough of the show so I can skip commercials.
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Post by: Bob on September 22, 2013, 05:05:40 PM
Same here.......will be watching the final two 75 minute episodes live too.

I'm even gonna wait until tomorrow to watch the final Dexter show that is on at the same time.
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Post by: Thrifty Version II on September 22, 2013, 07:28:34 PM
So that was great, as always.  Hell of a lot less intense than last week.  I like that they're continuing this theme of Walt's degeneration.  First he's scheming, and he tries to bully Saul into playing along--doesn't work.  Then he tries to leave the shack right after he gets dropped off--immediately turns around.  That phone call with Walt Jr. was heart-wrenching.  Walt tries to reconnect with his son and help him, but his son's hatred for him couldn't be more vehement.

I love that Walt's become a famous, national fugitive.

Best scene of the episode: Walt puts on the Heisenberg hat, gets that look in his eye, attempts to defy The Vanisher's orders and hike to town.... gets to the fence, and gives up.  There was a lot of symbolism in that.

It was nice seeing some of the old characters back again, Carmen and the two people who founded Gray Matter.
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Post by: Raven on September 22, 2013, 08:17:18 PM
So much for the idea of him returning as a hero.  Didn't see Grey Matter being a trigger like that.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Sugar Ray Dodge on September 22, 2013, 08:45:10 PM
He'll always be a hero to me. :P
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Sugar Ray Dodge on September 22, 2013, 08:49:14 PM
My takeaway...

1. Damn. We'll never see Saul on this show again, will we? That's a shame. If he shows up in the finale it'll be cool, but I'm not crossing my fingers. I think that was a wrap for my favorite character. I wonder if he'll ever get his own show or something...

2. That was messed up what they did to Andrea.

3. There is no way Lydia gets out of this alive.

4. I felt really bad for Walt when we asked the disappearer to stick around for a couple of hours. And then again when Walt Jr. was being a total dick to him.

5. OH JEEZ! SHIT IS GOING DOWN! HEISENBERG IS BACK!
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Post by: Johnny Unusual on September 23, 2013, 04:04:21 AM
Another fantastic episode.  Is it just me or are some of the strongest episodes the third to last of the season:

"Phoenix", "Crawlspace", and now "Ozymandias".  And I'm not saying this wasn't also amazing, but it certainly is less apocalyptic.  Or at least not dramatically so.  This is more like the whimper apocalypse, while the next one is his bang.  I like the turn that Walt isn't going for redemption: just good old fashioned arrogance and pride.  Can't wait to see how it turned out.

At first, I was a little disappointed we finally say the vacuum repair man, but it being Robert Forrester totally makes up for it.  A phenomenal job.

1. Damn. We'll never see Saul on this show again, will we? That's a shame. If he shows up in the finale it'll be cool, but I'm not crossing my fingers. I think that was a wrap for my favorite character. I wonder if he'll ever get his own show or something...

4. I felt really bad for Walt when we asked the disappearer to stick around for a couple of hours. And then again when Walt Jr. was being a total dick to him.

Disappearer is not a word.  Neither is vanisher, but man disappearer sounds ridiculous.  Like how the TV series Unforgettable was originally going to be titled the Rememberer.  But really, you're upset that Flynn is mean to his dad after ruining the lives of him and his mother, leaving behind all sorts of shit for them to deal with and being responsible for the death of Hank?  Sure, I feel bad for Walt in that scene but "dick"?

"Yeah, that Luke Skywalker was a real ungrateful dick to his dad.  He offered him an empire and he just cut off his dad's hand.  And I'm like 'where did that come from'?"

Anyway, yeah I think Saul's gone (or we see him reading a newspaper.  Actually, that should be the last episode: Saul reads the epilogue over his morning coffee.  I don't expect it, but I'm still hoping the Saul spin-off takes place after the series.  The question is, in the event that he returns, how and why.  Yes, it's wishful thinking, but the scenario in which he might return is interesting.

Still, if it's a prequel, then more Huell.

OH SHIT! HE'S STILL IN THE HOTEL ROOM!
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Thrifty Version II on September 23, 2013, 04:34:31 AM
I'm not really clear why Saul ran away.
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Post by: JP on September 23, 2013, 05:11:51 AM

Actually, that should be the last episode: Saul reads the epilogue over his morning coffee. 

That would actually be a great ending.  Have him reading the paper while sitting on a bus stop bench.  As he reads the fate of those in New Mexico, he shrugs, stands up, and reveals the advertisement on the bench.  "Leave It To Levi," it says, next to the smiling face of the former Mr. Goodman.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Johnny Unusual on September 23, 2013, 07:24:26 AM
Of course, he does need a new face and so he decides to alter himself with plastic surgery and finally go full Jew.

(http://www.gq.com/blogs/the-feed/david-cross-635.jpg)
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Post by: Sugar Ray Dodge on September 23, 2013, 08:45:24 AM

1. Damn. We'll never see Saul on this show again, will we? That's a shame. If he shows up in the finale it'll be cool, but I'm not crossing my fingers. I think that was a wrap for my favorite character. I wonder if he'll ever get his own show or something...

4. I felt really bad for Walt when we asked the disappearer to stick around for a couple of hours. And then again when Walt Jr. was being a total dick to him.

Disappearer is not a word.  Neither is vanisher, but man disappearer sounds ridiculous.  Like how the TV series Unforgettable was originally going to be titled the Rememberer.  But really, you're upset that Flynn is mean to his dad after ruining the lives of him and his mother, leaving behind all sorts of shit for them to deal with and being responsible for the death of Hank?  Sure, I feel bad for Walt in that scene but "dick"?

"Yeah, that Luke Skywalker was a real ungrateful dick to his dad.  He offered him an empire and he just cut off his dad's hand.  And I'm like 'where did that come from'?"

1. Tell it to the writers.

(http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k171/sugarraydodge/ScreenShot2013-09-23at93831AM.png)

Vince Gilligan also uses the phrase in the behinds the scenes video for this episode. Source. (http://www.amctv.com/shows/breaking-bad/story-sync/season-5-episode-15)

2. Yes. Really.
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Post by: Kete on September 23, 2013, 08:50:52 AM
It feels like Ozymandius was the finale, and Granite State is an epilogue.
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Post by: Thrifty Version II on September 23, 2013, 09:24:01 AM
I really hope Todd and Jack and the rest of the Aryan gang all have a happy ending.  I'm really rooting for them.  I'd hate to see anything bad happen to them.
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Post by: wurwolf on September 23, 2013, 09:26:23 AM
It feels like Ozymandius was the finale, and Granite State is an epilogue.

I think Granite State is just the eye of the hurricane, personally.

Also, at first the vacuum cleaner guy didn't bother me. I was relieved he seemed so normal (I have no idea who Robert Forster is so the stunt casting that everyone's talking about was lost on me). But as the episode went on I began to realize just how creepy it all was. Basically, this guy is farming Walt -- this multi-million dollar gift falls in his lap, and he takes Walt to a secret place that no one else will find, keeping him alone in a cabin with no contact with the outside world, only seeing what the vacuum guy allows him to see. And he feeds him and brings him things that will keep him comfortable and in one place, like a veal in a box, and then when Walt dies, that $11 million is all his. Subversive and creepy, but fascinating.

It only makes Walt's offer of ten grand to stay and keep him company all the more pathetic. Evidently in that moment Walt didn't realize that the $11 million was no longer his, that this guy was just playing a waiting game like a spider in a web, waiting for the fly to stop struggling and die. He could offer ten thousand today, tomorrow, or in a month -- it made no difference. Eventually it will all belong to the vacuum cleaner guy.

I'm interested to see if Walt brings any of that money with him. I am not sure how he logically could, but Heisenberg wants ALL of his money, so I don't see him leaving it behind.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Sugar Ray Dodge on September 23, 2013, 09:33:08 AM
Yeah, I think Walt takes that 11 million with him. You're right, he wants ALL his money. He wants EVERYTHING that's been taken from him. You heard what he said to Saul.
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Post by: Thrifty Version II on September 23, 2013, 09:35:55 AM
It really was a master stroke.  It feels like Walt fled from literal prison, but now he's in a metaphorical prison that's probably worse.  Virtually no human contact, cold, isolated from the family he went through all this torture for in the first place, slowly dying.  He has a barrel full of cash, but it's virtually worthless. 

I don't quite understand why the Vanisher guy doesn't just kill Walt and take the money.  He's literally the only other person on Earth who knows Walt is up there.  It's 8 miles away from civilization, and he's show that he's an expert at making people disappear.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: wurwolf on September 23, 2013, 09:38:26 AM
Why bother to kill him and have that on his conscience or  Walt's blood on his hands? Walt is clearly at death's door. All the vacuum guy has to do is hang in there until the cancer does its work, and at this point it's a matter of weeks or even days.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Thrifty Version II on September 23, 2013, 09:41:36 AM
Why bother to kill him and have that on his conscience or  Walt's blood on his hands? Walt is clearly at death's door. All the vacuum guy has to do is hang in there until the cancer does its work, and at this point it's a matter of weeks or even days.
He doesn't seem like the kind of guy who would worry about the ethical implications.  More pragmatically, I guess it wouldn't be worth the legal risk.

Although on the other hand, he IS harboring America's most wanted fugitive.
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Post by: Thrifty Version II on September 23, 2013, 09:43:15 AM
I loved this exchange:

Saul: It's over.
Walt: I told you before, it's not over until I say *COUGH* *COUGH* *COUGH* *COUGH* *COUGH* *COUGH* *COUGH* *COUGH* *COUGH* *COUGH* *COUGH* *COUGH* *COUGH* *COUGH* *COUGH* *COUGH* *COUGH* *COUGH* *COUGH* *COUGH* *COUGH* *COUGH*
Saul: It's over.  Goodbye Walt.
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Post by: eegah on September 23, 2013, 10:37:48 AM
Ok, here are my probably horribly inaccurate predictions:

The only thing that matters to Walt is his legacy, which consists of:

(1) The chemistry patents that he was involved with at Grey Matter
(2) His meth empire (aka "Heisenberg")
(3) His children

His master plan in the final episode is going to attempt to restore or preserve all of these.

First, he will contact the authorities about the Aryans and Lydia. That's really all it would take to bring those groups down. Then, he will show up for dinner at the Grey Matter guys' house (at gunpoint), put the ricin in the food, and eat with them. He will somehow get them to admit that he was the brains behind the patents, and then will die in a firefight with the authorities (very Scarface-like, even with the huge expensive house).

But I could be way off.
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Post by: Sugar Ray Dodge on September 23, 2013, 11:12:15 AM
I really hope Todd and Jack and the rest of the Aryan gang all have a happy ending.  I'm really rooting for them.  I'd hate to see anything bad happen to them.

Me too. They seem like really fun guys.
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Post by: goflyblind on September 23, 2013, 11:16:00 AM
I really hope Todd and Jack and the rest of the Aryan gang all have a happy ending.  I'm really rooting for them.  I'd hate to see anything bad happen to them.

final scene: meth damon and lydia walking out of a church with everyone throwing rice at them as they leap into a waiting limo and speed off down the highway with a "just married" sign on the back. :)
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Raven on September 23, 2013, 11:33:01 AM
I can't see the series ending with Walt just going full rampage.  They've spent way to much time showing him going through personality swings to have it end with him being one dimensional.  I'm looking for a blend of full on crazy rampage, calculated manipulation and trying to do things for others. The old Walt vs Heisenberg and both of their motivations will be on display. 

I'd like to see the Grey Matter thing pay off with an attack on Eliot and Gretchen.  Or you could still keep with his stated goal of trying to protect his family and maybe threaten Gretchen and Eliot and get them to set up a trust fund or something like that for Holly and Jr. An act of violence against someone who never did anything would be the final nail in the coffin of Walt's goodness.

I wouldn't be surprised if Walt figured out that Jesse is a prisoner of Todd and Co. and wants to get revenge on them for not killing Jesse like they promised.  The reports of blue meth being worldwide and the knowledge that Todd could never produce that alone would let him know that Jesse's cooking.  And if Andrea's execution was in the paper he could figure out that Jesse was being held against his will.  An act of vengeance against the crew could also end with saving Jesse when he's sees what they've done to him.   

If he's not getting into a gun fight to help Jesse it could be he's trying to take down the empire that he's now jealous of and then Lydia has to go too.  Maybe he could try to destroy Lydia's empire and damage Grey Matter too.  This could be him trying to knock down both the legal and illegal fortunes that he could have ended up with if he'd made different decisions along the way.

They could literally end this show a hundred different ways and it would still make sense for the story.  I'd love for a Clue scenario where you get three completely different last episodes and every time you play the dvd it randomly picks one. 
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Sugar Ray Dodge on September 23, 2013, 11:43:08 AM
They could literally end this show a hundred different ways and it would still make sense for the story.  I'd love for a Clue scenario where you get three completely different last episodes and every time you play the dvd it randomly picks one.

I think I read somewhere that the Complete Series DVD will have at least one alternate ending. I'm like you, I'm hoping there are a few alternate endings, so those who buy the DVD set will be able to choose whatever ending they like best. Clue is one of my Top 5 favorite movies, and I gotta say that I think the best way to watch it is to watch all three of them in a row the way they have it on the original VHS home release, but that DVD function you bring up is a very cool feature.
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Post by: Sugar Ray Dodge on September 23, 2013, 11:49:17 AM
If I had to make educated guesses, I would make the following on who lives and dies. I don't expect them to be 100% right, because this show always throws us unexpected curves. But the way things are looking right now, here's how it looks like it might turn out from where I sit.

Walt = Dead
Jesse = Alive
Skyler = Tossup
Flynn = Alive
Marie = Alive (if we even see her again)
Jack = Dead
Todd = Tossup
Lydia = Tossup
Saul = Alive (if we even see him again)
And, of course, Gus, Mike, Gale, Jane and Hank = All revived by Phoenix Downs to aid in the battle against Sephiroth.

Even though it doesn't seem like Todd or Lydia could survive the coming rampage, I don't think I would write either of them off just yet.
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Post by: Kete on September 23, 2013, 12:10:09 PM
The final scene must be Walt in his underwear.
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Post by: wurwolf on September 23, 2013, 01:49:54 PM
Good quote from this (http://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2013/09/-em-breaking-bad-em-is-heisenberg-alive-is-walter-white/279886/) review:

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So, who is the man we see at the end of the episode? Not Heisenberg. That sort of bravado can't survive against cancer. It's not Walter White, either. His own son told him to die. Mr. Lambert would have walked back to his cabin, ready for the end. No, the person who walked out of that bar is new. He's the distillation of everything broken and dangerous about the ones who came before him—and he's desperate. If chemistry is the study of change, this is the final stage of the man who turned into a monster, catalyzed by the unexpected return of an old grudge. The only question left is, who will this monster bring down before he falls?
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Post by: Kete on September 23, 2013, 02:12:15 PM
http://www.youtube.com/v/53j4vQ8Un0k
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Post by: Thrifty Version II on September 23, 2013, 03:42:48 PM
Good quote from this (http://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2013/09/-em-breaking-bad-em-is-heisenberg-alive-is-walter-white/279886/) review:

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So, who is the man we see at the end of the episode? Not Heisenberg. That sort of bravado can't survive against cancer. It's not Walter White, either. His own son told him to die. Mr. Lambert would have walked back to his cabin, ready for the end. No, the person who walked out of that bar is new. He's the distillation of everything broken and dangerous about the ones who came before him—and he's desperate. If chemistry is the study of change, this is the final stage of the man who turned into a monster, catalyzed by the unexpected return of an old grudge. The only question left is, who will this monster bring down before he falls?

I like to think that Heisenberg died the second he turned back from the gate and said "Maybe tomorrow".
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Post by: Johnny Unusual on September 23, 2013, 05:36:23 PM
You know, maybe Walt's just planning to issue a rebuttal to Gray Matter on Charlie Rose.
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Post by: goflyblind on September 23, 2013, 05:50:59 PM
You know, maybe Walt's just planning to issue a rebuttal to Gray Matter on Charlie Rose.

... and the machine gun to subdue PBS security. "you must have one valid ID! two valid IDs! ah ha ha ha!"
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Post by: Sugar Ray Dodge on September 23, 2013, 06:30:30 PM
You know, maybe Walt's just planning to issue a rebuttal to Gray Matter on Charlie Rose.

DVD EXTRAS! That would be killer, just sayin.
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Post by: Johnny Unusual on September 23, 2013, 07:05:41 PM
Speaking of

http://www.avclub.com/articles/of-course-that-phone-number-from-last-nights-break,103228/
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Post by: Variety of Cells on September 23, 2013, 07:33:34 PM
I'm surprised no one has mentioned Jesse much.  He is what I am most interested in seeing in this last episode, and not just because we share the same name.  He has been shit on this whole season; just a shivering mess of a human being after all the horrible things that people keep doing to him.  I do not think Vince will let him die without some sort of satisfaction.  He may well die, but I do hope he has his moment. 
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Post by: Sugar Ray Dodge on September 23, 2013, 07:57:24 PM
I'm surprised no one has mentioned Jesse much.  He is what I am most interested in seeing in this last episode, and not just because we share the same name.  He has been shit on this whole season; just a shivering mess of a human being after all the horrible things that people keep doing to him.  I do not think Vince will let him die without some sort of satisfaction.  He may well die, but I do hope he has his moment.

If Todd goes down, Jesse will probably do it.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: wurwolf on September 24, 2013, 08:15:17 AM
I would be surprised if Jesse's big moment actually involves killing someone, unless he kills Walt.

Jesse isn't as big of a deal to me in this show. I see him as a pawn and a tool (not tool in the derogatory sense, but something to be used). He might have a part in the ending, but really I see the heart of the matter in the conflict between Walt and Grey Matter. That was the original issue with him -- if it had just been disinterested students, or a bitchy wife, or a crummy boss, those are things you live with and okay whatever. The thing that always rankled Walt, from the very beginning, was what happened with Grey Matter and how others had gone on to great success based on his work without giving him credit. That's what the whole empire-building was all about, and empire-building was, in the end, the only reason Heisenberg came to be. The cancer was the catalyst, but the foundation of all of this has always been how Walter White got the shaft by his two former friends/business associates.
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Post by: Variety of Cells on September 24, 2013, 09:14:00 AM
Sure that's all true. But I actually like Jesse. I'm interested in Walt, but I hate him.  I don't care if he lives or dies. Either outcome will be interesting, but my heart strings won't be pulled so much. I'm much more emotionally invested in Jesse.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Kete on September 24, 2013, 09:33:56 AM
Now that the show is ending, I honestly don't get that emotional about anyone dying.  I've sort of come to terms that none of these characters will exist after next week, so if they die on screen...whatevs.  Yes, I was upset that Hank died, but it didn't bother me as much as when Gayle died.  I don't have that issue with movies....must just be a TV series thing.
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Post by: JP on September 24, 2013, 09:43:10 AM
Sure that's all true. But I actually like Jesse. I'm interested in Walt, but I hate him.  I don't care if he lives or dies. Either outcome will be interesting, but my heart strings won't be pulled so much. I'm much more emotionally invested in Jesse.

I will be quite disappointed if Walt does not die (and I have no reason to believe he won't).  Walt's death is what drew me into this show in the first place - seeing a man, facing his own death, reach beyond what he has achieved in life before meeting his end.  Sure, the journey from then to now is the most interesting part, and I have shifted from wanting to see him die happy after accomplishing his goals to wanting to see him die in payment of his methods of reaching said goals, but anticipating how and why the lead character dies has been one of the most intriguing questions of the show for me.
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Post by: Thrifty Version II on September 24, 2013, 10:10:27 AM
Sure that's all true. But I actually like Jesse. I'm interested in Walt, but I hate him.  I don't care if he lives or dies. Either outcome will be interesting, but my heart strings won't be pulled so much. I'm much more emotionally invested in Jesse.
Jesse's story is the more tragic one, and I want to see it resolved somehow with a not terrible ending.  If Jesse blows up the meth lab and takes out Todd and a portion of Jack's gang along with himself, that's good enough.  People maybe aren't talking about it as much because the show itself didn't talk about it as much.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Thrifty Version II on September 24, 2013, 10:12:38 AM
5 days, 8 hours to go!
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Raven on September 24, 2013, 10:17:02 AM
I would be surprised if Jesse's big moment actually involves killing someone, unless he kills Walt.

Jesse isn't as big of a deal to me in this show. I see him as a pawn and a tool (not tool in the derogatory sense, but something to be used). He might have a part in the ending, but really I see the heart of the matter in the conflict between Walt and Grey Matter. That was the original issue with him -- if it had just been disinterested students, or a bitchy wife, or a crummy boss, those are things you live with and okay whatever. The thing that always rankled Walt, from the very beginning, was what happened with Grey Matter and how others had gone on to great success based on his work without giving him credit. That's what the whole empire-building was all about, and empire-building was, in the end, the only reason Heisenberg came to be. The cancer was the catalyst, but the foundation of all of this has always been how Walter White got the shaft by his two former friends/business associates.

Initially Jesse wasn't making it out of the first season but they have spent a lot of time telling us his story at the same time that they were telling Walts.  Even when the two weren't intersecting for long periods of time both in Breaking Bad world time and viewer time, with some gaps between interactions lasting several episodes.  Walt has always been the A-story and Jesse obviously the B-story but any other character in the show would be at a D-story.  Jesse spent a lot of time in a downward spiral, several times in fact, but you always knew what he was doing.  If he doesn't have a major plot point in the finale I'll be disappointed but I honestly can't see that happening.  Either he'll turn the tables and escape, possibly killing Walt himself or he'll get killed in a sadder way then we could imagine.  I'd be okay with the last word spoken in the entire series was a Jesse "Bitch."  Granted given what they've done to him this season, it won't likely be one of jubilation but I'll take what I can get.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Thrifty Version II on September 24, 2013, 10:19:04 AM
Fuck, I can't wait any longer.  I'm gonna use this one charge from my time machine.  I was just gonna grab a newspaper with the Powerball numbers and head back a week to strike it rich, but I think this is a better idea.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: eegah on September 24, 2013, 10:38:47 AM
If Jesse blows up the meth lab and takes out Todd and a portion of Jack's gang along with himself, that's good enough. 

I kinda feel like they've foreshadowed Jesse using chemistry to kill the Nazis, both when they had that flashback from their first cook where Walt was trying to explain the process and when the Nazis were cavalier about wearing their masks.
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Post by: Sugar Ray Dodge on September 24, 2013, 06:44:21 PM
The Breaking Bad Coloring Book.

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/d65dc8535b735bc17316f000cfcd78a7/tumblr_mtnrgf7wjS1s0719ho1_1280.png)
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Johnny Unusual on September 24, 2013, 06:49:27 PM
If Jesse blows up the meth lab and takes out Todd and a portion of Jack's gang along with himself, that's good enough. 

I kinda feel like they've foreshadowed Jesse using chemistry to kill the Nazis, both when they had that flashback from their first cook where Walt was trying to explain the process and when the Nazis were cavalier about wearing their masks.

I'm pretty sure the nazis WEREN'T cavalier about that.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Johnny Unusual on September 24, 2013, 07:38:29 PM
http://www.youtube.com/v/66kIF-iO5oQ
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Thrifty Version II on September 25, 2013, 05:13:51 AM
4 days, 12 hours, 47 minutes!
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Thrifty Version II on September 25, 2013, 05:21:22 AM
If Jesse blows up the meth lab and takes out Todd and a portion of Jack's gang along with himself, that's good enough. 

I kinda feel like they've foreshadowed Jesse using chemistry to kill the Nazis, both when they had that flashback from their first cook where Walt was trying to explain the process and when the Nazis were cavalier about wearing their masks.
Definitely.  They writing staff at Breaking Bad are like Native Americans--they use every part of the show.  They never show anything that doesn't either connect to something earlier or pay off later.

I can't stop thinking about Walt's phone call with his son.  Best scene in the entire episode.  "Why aren't you dead yet?" was such a great line delivered with such power, and so crushing to Walt.  Walt's been driven mad by isolation and regret, and the one person he's doing it all for rubs salt in the wound.  The man is a piece of shit and is getting what he deserves1, but there's so much pathos in the scene it's hard not to feel at least some temporary pity. 

1One may be tempted to feel sorry for Walt after he caused Hank's death, or feel special enmity for Todd after he killed Andrea... but I keep remembering that Walt killed Mike entirely out of spite, orchestrated the deaths of 10 other witnesses, and was prepared to kill Lydia (a single mother).
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Post by: Thrifty Version II on September 25, 2013, 04:52:08 PM
I just got back from my trip to the future, and man.... what a finale.  You guys won't believe it.  I certainly never expected Carmen to leap out of nowhere and shoot Walt like that.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: goflyblind on September 25, 2013, 07:55:27 PM
I just got back from my trip to the future, and man.... what a finale.  You guys won't believe it.  I certainly never expected Carmen to leap out of nowhere and shoot Walt like that.

no means no.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: gbeenie on September 26, 2013, 06:43:28 PM
I was speechless during this episode. Oddly enough, I miss Gomez the most. I knew Hank was done for as he struggled to reach Gomez' gun and the Aryans quickly closed the distance. The irony of Marie telling Skyler how things were going to play out (wearing black!) , Walt's new low (Jane.) , Walt Jr. protecting his mother. After all that is said and done, it's Todd's demeanor that makes my skin crawl.

Todd is pretty creepy. Really sweet and innocent on the outside, but capable of doing horrible things without feeling bad about it. But the big thing is that he never shows malice. He just goes about the horrible things in his sweet, innocent, disconnected way.  He's turned out to be an interesting character.

Yeah. Todd really frustrates me, because I just CANNOT wrap my head around that guy. One minute he comes across as a sweet, sensitive kid, and in the next, he's a stone killer. His puppy-dog affection for Lydia only scrambles my brain further.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: gbeenie on September 26, 2013, 06:54:57 PM
http://www.youtube.com/v/66kIF-iO5oQ

That whole episode of Conan is great, and a must-see for BB fans.
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Post by: Johnny Unusual on September 26, 2013, 07:07:44 PM
Whatever happened to that eye?  I thought it would follow him through the series, but I think it disappeared before season 5.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: gbeenie on September 26, 2013, 07:08:48 PM
Man, this episode. F me in the A.


In no particular order:

Walt's wrathful side is a tin-toy, and that Charlie Rose interview with Gretchen and Elliot is a massive twist of the key. wurwolf is exactly right: However big and out-of-control a rolling snowball Walt's ego has become, it's clear that Grey Matter is the pebble at the center of it.

Fucking Todd. However, the murder of Andrea leads to a tantalizing possibility: After this, might Jesse willingly join forces with Walt in his assault on TFFS (Todd's Fucked-up Family Situation)?

What other show would have the cajones to get Robert Forster, and then save him for the last two episodes?

RJ Mitte does not get enough credit for his acting. That phone call was gut-wrenching, and that's squarely on Mitte's shoulders.

One thing that became clear in its absence of being mentioned: Given Skyler's financial difficulties months later, it appears that the situation between Skyler and Marie has NOT improved.


Stupid calendar. y u no b Sunday yet? (we're getting pizza with "crazy bread")
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Johnny Unusual on September 26, 2013, 11:43:15 PM

What other show would have the cajones to get Robert Forster, and then save him for the last two episodes?

This.  Forever this.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Johnny Unusual on September 27, 2013, 05:23:42 AM
(http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/line9-27-13a.jpg)

(http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/line9-27-13b.jpg)

Pinkman and the Brain...
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Kete on September 27, 2013, 09:10:28 AM
Quote from: CNN Money
Walter White may be fictional. But the $80 million profit he turned by selling meth in less than a year is a very realistic sum for a true-life drug kingpin.

It's not until the last season of Breaking Bad that viewers learn just how much cash their favorite meth-making anti-hero has accumulated by cooking crank. The $80 million is a staggering sum for less than a year's worth of work.

But experts say that pallet full of cash portrayed in the show is realistic, given the economics of the meth trade.

"The show has a lot of reality to it," said Ralph Weisheit, a professor of criminal justice at Illinois State and an author of the book, "Methamphetamine: Its History, Pharmacology and Treatment." "It clearly employs consultants who know a lot of about the business," he added.
The story of a quiet high school chemistry teacher who built a crystal methamphetamine empire will air its series finale on Sunday, amid strong ratings for AMC Networks and even stronger buzz.

Walt's fortune is built on the premise that he's selling his meth at the modest price of about $60 a gram. That's spelled out in the fifth season episode "Hazard Pay," when Walt and his partners sell a 50 pound batch of their high quality blue meth for $1,379,560, after the commission that goes to street dealers.

According to Weisheit, $60 a gram "is not at all unreasonable, especially for meth of a very high quality."

"The price of meth varies wildly from one part of the country to another, and from one time a year to another, depending on supplies," he added. "It can go from $50 a gram to $150 a gram. It makes oil prices look stable."

It's a long way from $60 for a gram of meth to the seven, 55-gallon drums of cash Walt has holding $80 million. But the volumes of meth on the show are enough to produce that mountain of cash. And the demand for the product is strong enough that Walt could move that much meth in less than a year, especially given his empire's expansion into eastern Europe this season.

Walt was able to make such a large volume of meth because he and his partners stole 1,000 gallons of the industrial chemical methylamine from a train. After the heist, Walt's partners want to sell the chemical for $15,000 a gallon, instead of cooking it up into meth and selling it.
On the black market, that's a reasonable price for the chemical, says Weisheit.
Related: My home was a former meth lab

But Walt argues that if he cooks the methylamine, he and his partners can make far more money - somewhere between $300 million and $370 million. Using the retail price of $60 a gram, that means they'd have to sell between 11,000 and 13,500 pounds of meth.

And as it turns out, the 1,000 gallons of methylamine they stole would produce anywhere from 10,000 to 13,000 pounds of very pure meth, according to Steve Preisler, a chemist who wrote the book "Secrets of Methamphetamine Manufacture" while serving time in prison on meth charges.
Walt cooks almost 400 gallons of the methylamine before deciding to quit the business. He agrees to pay another drug dealer a 35% cut of his sales in return for handling the distribution.

That would net Walt between $78 million to $96 million in profit, or enough to fill those seven 55-gallon drums with cash.
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Post by: wurwolf on September 27, 2013, 09:50:53 AM
Stupid calendar. y u no b Sunday yet? (we're getting pizza with "crazy bread")

 :clap:

This is something that has to happen in our house on Sunday night.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: The Lurker on September 27, 2013, 10:17:52 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/zzH04qd.jpg)
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: eegah on September 27, 2013, 10:22:18 AM
Stupid calendar. y u no b Sunday yet? (we're getting pizza with "crazy bread")

 :clap:

This is something that has to happen in our house on Sunday night.

Make sure to get it unsliced. ;)
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: goflyblind on September 27, 2013, 10:24:20 AM
Stupid calendar. y u no b Sunday yet? (we're getting pizza with "crazy bread")

 :clap:

This is something that has to happen in our house on Sunday night.

Make sure to get it unsliced. ;)

and get a second one in case your throwing arm isn't up to snuff.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Sugar Ray Dodge on September 27, 2013, 11:18:46 AM
Tell me, why should I feel bad for Skyler for taking all of Walt's heat after she pulled a knife on him and forced him out of his own house?
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Thrifty Version II on September 27, 2013, 12:30:15 PM
Tell me, why should I feel bad for Skyler for taking all of Walt's heat after she pulled a knife on him and forced him out of his own house?
Because Walt was the actual meth kingpin.

Because as far as Skyler knew, Walt had just killed Hank and was a dangerous man.

How would you react if you knew your spouse was a drug kingpin, then you heard he was arrested, then suddenly you see him at home yelling at your and your kids to pack up and leave immediately?

It's easy to pass judgement on someone with the gift of knowing the important details that they don't.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: wurwolf on September 27, 2013, 01:23:24 PM
Tell me, why should I feel bad for Skyler for taking all of Walt's heat after she pulled a knife on him and forced him out of his own house?

Sometimes I have a hard time telling whether you're being serious or actually trolling, but this (just posted by gbeenie on Facebook) should help:

http://www.pajiba.com/seriously_random_lists/23-reasons-why-we-wont-miss-that-btch-skyler-white.php
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Post by: Thrifty Version II on September 27, 2013, 02:19:53 PM
Just 51 hours and 40 minutes!
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: gbeenie on September 27, 2013, 02:32:42 PM
Stupid calendar. y u no b Sunday yet? (we're getting pizza with "crazy bread")

 :clap:

This is something that has to happen in our house on Sunday night.

Make sure to get it unsliced. ;)

and get a second one in case your throwing arm isn't up to snuff.

Looks like we're going with price over giantness. Oh well.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: d00hickey on September 27, 2013, 02:33:20 PM
Tell me, why should I feel bad for Skyler for taking all of Walt's heat after she pulled a knife on him and forced him out of his own house?

Walt's pretty well known for making questionable choices that could endanger their children.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Sugar Ray Dodge on September 27, 2013, 04:22:33 PM
Tell me, why should I feel bad for Skyler for taking all of Walt's heat after she pulled a knife on him and forced him out of his own house?

Walt's pretty well known for making questionable choices that could endanger their children.

Sorry, not buyin' it. She was eyeball deep in the whole thing. Driving away Walt like that was a bad move. It left her totally unprotected. And what could Walt do after that? It's impossible for him to help her now. Granted, going back to ABQ will help matters, but I think it might be too little too late.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Raven on September 27, 2013, 04:32:48 PM
Tell me, why should I feel bad for Skyler for taking all of Walt's heat after she pulled a knife on him and forced him out of his own house?

Walt's pretty well known for making questionable choices that could endanger their children.

Sorry, not buyin' it. She was eyeball deep in the whole thing. Driving away Walt like that was a bad move. It left her totally unprotected. And what could Walt do after that? It's impossible for him to help her now. Granted, going back to ABQ will help matters, but I think it might be too little too late.

I don't think she's necessarily taking the fall for everything he's ever done.  I doubt that Hank and Gomez is on her, as Marie was with her when they went missing.  Even if he confessed she'd still be up on charges for her involvement.  The only thing that him being in custody would effect would be her ability to plea bargain.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: goflyblind on September 27, 2013, 05:13:18 PM
Driving away Walt like that was a bad move. It left her totally unprotected.

yes, driving away the crazed megalomaniac killer was a bad move. what the hell is wrong with you? ???
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Thrifty Version II on September 27, 2013, 05:35:15 PM
Tell me, why should I feel bad for Skyler for taking all of Walt's heat after she pulled a knife on him and forced him out of his own house?

Walt's pretty well known for making questionable choices that could endanger their children.

Sorry, not buyin' it. She was eyeball deep in the whole thing. Driving away Walt like that was a bad move. It left her totally unprotected. And what could Walt do after that? It's impossible for him to help her now. Granted, going back to ABQ will help matters, but I think it might be too little too late.
You obstinate stupidity is actually starting to offend me.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Sugar Ray Dodge on September 27, 2013, 07:05:03 PM
Tell me, why should I feel bad for Skyler for taking all of Walt's heat after she pulled a knife on him and forced him out of his own house?

Walt's pretty well known for making questionable choices that could endanger their children.

Sorry, not buyin' it. She was eyeball deep in the whole thing. Driving away Walt like that was a bad move. It left her totally unprotected. And what could Walt do after that? It's impossible for him to help her now. Granted, going back to ABQ will help matters, but I think it might be too little too late.
You obstinate stupidity is actually starting to offend me.

Sounds like a personal problem.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Sugar Ray Dodge on September 27, 2013, 07:05:40 PM
Driving away Walt like that was a bad move. It left her totally unprotected.

yes, driving away the crazed megalomaniac killer was a bad move. what the hell is wrong with you? ???

You people realize that this isn't real, right?
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: gbeenie on September 27, 2013, 07:06:43 PM
Tell me, why should I feel bad for Skyler for taking all of Walt's heat after she pulled a knife on him and forced him out of his own house?

Walt's pretty well known for making questionable choices that could endanger their children.

Sorry, not buyin' it. She was eyeball deep in the whole thing. Driving away Walt like that was a bad move. It left her totally unprotected. And what could Walt do after that? It's impossible for him to help her now. Granted, going back to ABQ will help matters, but I think it might be too little too late.
You obstinate stupidity is actually starting to offend me.

I'm fervently hoping that we're getting a course in Advanced Trolling.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Sugar Ray Dodge on September 27, 2013, 07:07:39 PM
Tell me, why should I feel bad for Skyler for taking all of Walt's heat after she pulled a knife on him and forced him out of his own house?

Walt's pretty well known for making questionable choices that could endanger their children.

Sorry, not buyin' it. She was eyeball deep in the whole thing. Driving away Walt like that was a bad move. It left her totally unprotected. And what could Walt do after that? It's impossible for him to help her now. Granted, going back to ABQ will help matters, but I think it might be too little too late.

I don't think she's necessarily taking the fall for everything he's ever done.  I doubt that Hank and Gomez is on her, as Marie was with her when they went missing.  Even if he confessed she'd still be up on charges for her involvement.  The only thing that him being in custody would effect would be her ability to plea bargain.

You're probably right. I think its a tossup at this point on whether or not she lives. I hate to admit it, but I think Walt might not make it out alive. I think Jesse will probably survive, though.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Sugar Ray Dodge on September 27, 2013, 07:10:50 PM
If you get offended that I'm discussing a television show, I really can't do anything for you. Nothing I have said is unreasonable or offensive in any sense. I mean, come on guys. It's a show! It's entertainment! If the fact that I see it differently than you and want to see a different outcome than you do actually OFFENDS you... there are no words for such foolishness. Really.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Thrifty Version II on September 27, 2013, 08:12:46 PM
If you get offended that I'm discussing a television show, I really can't do anything for you. Nothing I have said is unreasonable or offensive in any sense. I mean, come on guys. It's a show! It's entertainment! If the fact that I see it differently than you and want to see a different outcome than you do actually OFFENDS you... there are no words for such foolishness. Really.
You can display dumb, irrational opinions regardless of the subject matter.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Sugar Ray Dodge on September 27, 2013, 08:19:05 PM
If you get offended that I'm discussing a television show, I really can't do anything for you. Nothing I have said is unreasonable or offensive in any sense. I mean, come on guys. It's a show! It's entertainment! If the fact that I see it differently than you and want to see a different outcome than you do actually OFFENDS you... there are no words for such foolishness. Really.
You can display dumb, irrational opinions regardless of the subject matter.

Okay. I think you and me are officially done.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: lassieface on September 27, 2013, 09:13:16 PM
You know how people make those "Goodnight Sweet Prince" photoshops of dead characters heads floating in the night sky? I fully expect one with nearly the entire cast come Sunday night.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Sugar Ray Dodge on September 27, 2013, 09:40:44 PM
You know how people make those "Goodnight Sweet Prince" photoshops of dead characters heads floating in the night sky? I fully expect one with nearly the entire cast come Sunday night.

I really don't want everybody to die, but it definitely is a heavy contender in the "how it all plays out" office betting pool. Part of me thinks that Hank dying is a lot like Wash dying in Serenity, to sort of add the element of "HOLY SHIT ANYBODY CAN DIE AND PROBABLY WILL" to the last few episodes. It's entirely possible that no main characters die, and everybody's lives are drastically altered in some fashion. Odds are, though, is that at least a couple main characters will eat it. It's a bummer, because I actually like everybody on the show. I know I get a lot of flak for it, but I like Walt. I liked Hank, Gus and Mike, too. Hell, I even like Jack and Todd. They are really fun characters to have on a show like this. I mean, yeah, they are bad guys, but a great villain is one that the audience loves to watch and loves to hate. Any professional wrestling fan knows what I'm talking about. I know Jack will probably eat it, and I won't feel bad if he does, but I want his death to be as awesome as Gus's, if not more so. As long as they go out in style and not like chumps, I'll be satisfied. There's no way Walt will go out like a chump, though. That dude is either gonna get everything he wants or he's gonna die. Those are the only two options as far as I'm concerned.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Variety of Cells on September 28, 2013, 07:42:02 AM
Got our snacks ready for our breaking bad party tomorrow.

(http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg98/jesseskogh/6570147B-D7B5-42F3-8200-5CFE2B7B7D4A-667-0000007C610438D6_zps5e7eb453.jpg)
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Post by: Sugar Ray Dodge on September 28, 2013, 08:43:43 AM
Got our snacks ready for our breaking bad party tomorrow.

(http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg98/jesseskogh/6570147B-D7B5-42F3-8200-5CFE2B7B7D4A-667-0000007C610438D6_zps5e7eb453.jpg)

That's awesome! How'd you do that?
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Kete on September 28, 2013, 08:48:42 AM
Got our snacks ready for our breaking bad party tomorrow.

(http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg98/jesseskogh/6570147B-D7B5-42F3-8200-5CFE2B7B7D4A-667-0000007C610438D6_zps5e7eb453.jpg)

That's awesome! How'd you do that?

Okay...first, get yourself an RV....
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: goflyblind on September 28, 2013, 09:10:21 AM
i'm guessing it's sugar crystals, not salt. otherwise you'd have to have so much water beer with them.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Variety of Cells on September 28, 2013, 10:19:06 AM
Crazily enough, rock candy is total street legal and can be purchased at your local candy store.  Or your can make it yourself.  I remember doing that at some cub scout thing as a kid.  Don't remember exactly how it was done though.  Perhaps it did involve an RV...

But this will be named, and quite appropriate considering I'm in Minnesota at the moment, Methonastick. 
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Thrifty Version II on September 28, 2013, 11:22:20 AM
30 hours, 39 minutes to go!

I've been working on my Geoquitties project all day and it's making the time fly.  At this rate, I'll be finished the project just in time for the finale.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Bob on September 28, 2013, 11:40:32 AM
AMC aired ALL the episodes over the past few days, and since I have it set to record, I now have ALL of them on my direcTV receiver.  Nice!
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Johnny Unusual on September 28, 2013, 04:47:21 PM
http://www.avclub.com/articles/breaking-bads-huell-just-got-his-own-very-fictiona,103435/
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: wurwolf on September 28, 2013, 08:43:42 PM
We're going to be watching the end with our lil pal, Heisenberg:

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/535760_3350965148836_1735754419_n.jpg)

(https://scontent-b-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/1001425_3350965308840_1897832750_n.jpg)

It actually looks better in real life than these pictures. More like Bryan Cranston and less like Dean Norris. It comes with a hat, sunglasses, a bag o' money and a blue meth square. The gun is molded in its hand, we couldn't take it out if we wanted to.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Sugar Ray Dodge on September 28, 2013, 08:48:34 PM
MAKE HIM RIDE THE TONTON! Can you do that? Is he pose-able (poseable, posible, posable. All of those and I get a red line, wtf? Is it even a word? I'm not an English major, so I'm not allowed to make up words.)
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Johnny Unusual on September 28, 2013, 08:52:18 PM
A short sketch

Walter White on Hoth

"And I thought Badger smelled bad on the outside."

Thank you.

Also, it's spelled Taun Taun, Dodge.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Sugar Ray Dodge on September 28, 2013, 09:09:46 PM
Also, it's spelled Taun Taun, Dodge.

I'll make a note of it.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Raven on September 28, 2013, 09:54:36 PM
And- poseable.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Sugar Ray Dodge on September 28, 2013, 10:10:07 PM
And- poseable.

That was my first guess too, but spell check doesn't like it for some reason. Good to know my first instinct was right.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Thrifty Version II on September 29, 2013, 03:42:48 AM
Yeah. Todd really frustrates me, because I just CANNOT wrap my head around that guy. One minute he comes across as a sweet, sensitive kid, and in the next, he's a stone killer. His puppy-dog affection for Lydia only scrambles my brain further.

It's that god damned face of his.

14 hours, 19 minutes!
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Post by: Thrifty Version II on September 29, 2013, 04:25:48 AM
http://www.youtube.com/v/9ssTk6R_za0?version=3&amp;hl=en_US
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Post by: wurwolf on September 29, 2013, 03:38:03 PM
The end is nigh and I am breaking sad. I am really going to miss this show and the character of Walter White/Heisenberg/Mr. Lambert. :(

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/1e1709738c0eb8ffd9d66557598dd41c/tumblr_mtw7ozu3Q31qzpxx1o1_500.jpg)
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Post by: goflyblind on September 29, 2013, 04:23:40 PM
i just saw the final scene, and wow...

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Post by: Thrifty Version II on September 29, 2013, 05:02:22 PM
59 minutes to go.  I swear, every minutes closer seems slower than the last.
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Post by: Thrifty Version II on September 29, 2013, 06:00:11 PM
Showtime!
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Post by: Thrifty Version II on September 29, 2013, 07:20:03 PM
Jesse's ending felt anticlimactic.

I enjoyed seeing the brief glimpses of scenes from earlier, where we got to see the show catch up with the earlier flash-forwards.

That shootout with Walt's automated super-gun was epic.

I don't understand how Walt got the ricin into Lydia's artificial sweetener.  Or how Walt got shot when he was on the floor.
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Post by: Raven on September 29, 2013, 07:29:59 PM
I don't understand how Walt got the ricin into Lydia's artificial sweetener.  Or how Walt got shot when he was on the floor.

He had the sweetener when he was eating breakfast and set the one he stuffed with Ricin as the only one on her table before she got there.  As for the bullet, I'm assuming it was either a ricochet or one of the rednecks gun going off. 
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Post by: wurwolf on September 29, 2013, 07:35:36 PM
That was pretty fuckin epic. It was the feel good ending that I wasn't expecting. I really really loved that he died among the meth equipment with a smile on his face.
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Post by: Thrifty Version II on September 29, 2013, 07:36:20 PM
I don't understand how Walt got the ricin into Lydia's artificial sweetener.  Or how Walt got shot when he was on the floor.

He had the sweetener when he was eating breakfast and set the one he stuffed with Ricin as the only one on her table before she got there.  As for the bullet, I'm assuming it was either a ricochet or one of the rednecks gun going off.
What I mean is those packets are sealed.  How did he open it, insert the ricin, and reseal it?
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Post by: wurwolf on September 29, 2013, 07:37:51 PM
I don't understand how Walt got the ricin into Lydia's artificial sweetener.  Or how Walt got shot when he was on the floor.

He had the sweetener when he was eating breakfast and set the one he stuffed with Ricin as the only one on her table before she got there.  As for the bullet, I'm assuming it was either a ricochet or one of the rednecks gun going off.
What I mean is those packets are sealed.  How did he open it, insert the ricin, and reseal it?

Sure. Why not? I don't think it would be all that hard to do.
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Post by: Thrifty Version II on September 29, 2013, 07:39:58 PM
I don't understand how Walt got the ricin into Lydia's artificial sweetener.  Or how Walt got shot when he was on the floor.

He had the sweetener when he was eating breakfast and set the one he stuffed with Ricin as the only one on her table before she got there.  As for the bullet, I'm assuming it was either a ricochet or one of the rednecks gun going off.
What I mean is those packets are sealed.  How did he open it, insert the ricin, and reseal it?

Sure. Why not? I don't think it would be all that hard to do.
That's not an explanation. 

I liked that Todd was still all sweet faced and naive right until the end.  His uncle's club house gets filled with bullets, everyone dead, and he's just like "woah... that was cool".
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Post by: Thrifty Version II on September 29, 2013, 07:42:48 PM
I watched the opening flash-forward from season 5 again just now.  It's more fun when you have context.
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Post by: Raven on September 29, 2013, 07:50:43 PM

What I mean is those packets are sealed.  How did he open it, insert the ricin, and reseal it?
With a little steam you can open up sealed envelopes and reseal them.  I'm pretty sure it could be done in a similar fashion.  Showing him doing it would have ruined the reveal though.
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Post by: Thrifty Version II on September 29, 2013, 07:52:37 PM
I can't wait for the DVD.  I need to hear those commentaries.
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Post by: wurwolf on September 29, 2013, 07:56:51 PM
I'm not especially familiar with high-powered weaponry -- is it plausible that a gun like that could shoot through the side of a car and into a concrete house and the bullets would still have enough velocity behind them to kill people?
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Post by: Thrifty Version II on September 29, 2013, 08:00:35 PM
It's about damn time SOMEBODY took a fatal dose of ricin.
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Post by: Sugar Ray Dodge on September 29, 2013, 08:01:06 PM
That was the best Todd/Lydia wedding EVER!
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Post by: Raven on September 29, 2013, 08:22:14 PM
Just saw this on another site.

(http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/191po9lrzwlijjpg/ku-medium.jpg)
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Post by: JimJ on September 29, 2013, 08:30:11 PM
The finale didn't wow me or infuriate me.  It was just satisfying, and that's enough.  It's rare that a great show ends perfectly, and I don't think this one did, but it was close enough.  Definitely one of the best shows ever, IMO.

Also, Todd may have been a psychotic, creepy, "Opie dead eyed piece of shit", but he had the best personalized ringtones in the ABQ.
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Post by: MrTorso on September 29, 2013, 08:59:44 PM
I'm not especially familiar with high-powered weaponry -- is it plausible that a gun like that could shoot through the side of a car and into a concrete house and the bullets would still have enough velocity behind them to kill people?

The gun was a M60 and it can use the M61 cartridge which is armor piercing:

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Cartridge, 7.62mm, Armor Piercing, M61

TM 9-1305-201-20&P: M61 TM 9-1300-200: AP
Used by M60, M219, and M240 machine guns, and the M14 rifle. The cartridge is used in rifles and machine guns against personnel and light armored or unarmored targets, concrete shelters, and similar bullet-resisting targets.

Armor Penetration.
300 meters: 0.28 in (7 mm)
500 meters: 0.2 in (5 mm)

The cartridge is identified by a black bullet tip.

This ammunition is not authorized for training purposes.

Type Classification: OBS - MSR 11756003


So it might be

(http://nikonites.com/attachments/learning-photography/4294-blind-photographer-tara-miller-wins-national-photo-award-plausible.jpg)
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Post by: Sugar Ray Dodge on September 29, 2013, 09:15:28 PM
What I'm about to say does not mean that I didn't like the finale. I did. It was a great episode and a great ending to the show. But it was a tad predictable. Nothing happened that we all really didn't see coming. It was great, super entertaining, especially the first twenty minutes, and everybody got what they deserved. But I didn't think it was particularly mind-blowing. I think that honor belongs to Ozymandias. That was really the climax of the show, and the last two episodes have been long-time-coming wrapping up of the show, which is totally fine. I give the episode a solid 9, one of the best shows of the series. But the BEST show of the series belongs to the pen-penultimate episode. RIP Walt. You certainly deserve to.
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Post by: Variety of Cells on September 29, 2013, 11:37:10 PM
I mostly agree with Dodge, which is why I think it would have played better on Netflix. The week long anticipation of what happenens next did not due the episode any favors. But being shocked by Ozymsndias , then wowed by the last episode, then satisifed by the finale one after the other would have played much better in my opinion.

My wife's only gripe with the episode is that you don't see the emotional switch in Walt from "I want to kill Jesse" to "Im going to save Jesse". You obviously deduce that it happened, but it would have been nice to really see that moment. 
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Post by: Sugar Ray Dodge on September 30, 2013, 01:27:46 AM
I know I'll catch hell for this and some people will question whether I'm being sincere or being a really great troll (something that I don't quite understand, because I'm not sure how my comments come off as insincere,) and this is not to offend or provoke anybody at all. Here goes.

The reason I was so pro-Walt was because I was completely invested in the character. I wanted to see him prevail because of his convictions to being the best and not letting anybody stand in the way of that. He did do a lot of terrible, unforgivable things, I agree. But he prevailed so many times when it looked like all hope was lost. His ability to do what he had to do to be the absolute best in the face of seemingly insurmountable odds was pretty awe inspiring. In the end, he paid the price for it all. All choices have consequences, and these were the consequences of the path he chose to be the best. I can't say that he didn't get what he deserved in the end, but I'll be damned if I'm not sitting up in bed thinking about the character I had invested so much dying. The end is bittersweet, because he ultimately won, but the cost was his very life, along with many other lives.

I also believe that nobody is beyond redemption, that's just my Mormon upbringing coming through. We are all capable of redeeming ourselves no matter what we've done, and I wanted Walt to redeem himself, which he did, but again, at the cost of his life. Maybe that's the point, though.
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Post by: Sugar Ray Dodge on September 30, 2013, 01:36:46 AM
My wife's only gripe with the episode is that you don't see the emotional switch in Walt from "I want to kill Jesse" to "Im going to save Jesse". You obviously deduce that it happened, but it would have been nice to really see that moment.

That's understandable. Personally I was never worried that Walt was gonna kill Jesse because he loves him too much. I know he very nearly had him killed in Ozymandias, but I think that was because, in that moment, he blamed Jesse for Hank's death. I think he thought that if Jesse hadn't changed sides that Hank would still be alive. But several months in a deluxe unabomber cabin gives a man a lot of time to think about pretty much everything and he came to realize that Hank's death was his fault. I think the fact that he saved Jesse proves that Walt had forgiven him. Too bad we can't say for certain if Jesse forgave him back. He certainly didn't have to, but I like to think that he did. And that's just me projecting my own desires onto the character.
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Post by: Bastard Poetry on September 30, 2013, 01:57:41 AM
Some great product-placement, I thought.
(http://i.imgur.com/6rmLT5l.jpg)
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Post by: Johnny Unusual on September 30, 2013, 03:35:57 AM
That was a fantastic episode.  Lot's of great emotional closure.  My one regret is that it said Bob Odenkirk in the opening credits and NOTHING.  Stupid fake out.

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As for Sugar, I actually get wanting to see Walt win.  I just thought: 1. Seeing him "get his family back and win" aren't really what the show is about.  And 2) just because there are people in Walt's life who stand in his way that they are "dicks" and "bitches", bitch! (Jesse's words, not mine).  Just because you want Walt to win doesn't mean these people default into being bad.

Tonight, I think there are two songs I need to buy:

http://www.youtube.com/v/kIHRgisdbeY
http://www.youtube.com/v/C53QAuOoSgc

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Post by: ShadowDog on September 30, 2013, 05:14:18 AM
Walt's a chemical genius and a criminal mastermind ... I didn't need the show to take me by the hand and explain how Walt re-sealed that sweetner. He's got that.

Awesome finale. Its about time a great series doesn't whiz the finale down its leg.
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Post by: The Lurker on September 30, 2013, 07:13:23 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/603KRKG.jpg)
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Post by: Johnny Unusual on September 30, 2013, 07:17:04 AM
Why are the special features for the Incredible Hulk?

Also, watched the end and the part with the Shwartzes again.  So good!
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Post by: Thrifty Version II on September 30, 2013, 07:49:01 AM
Walt's a chemical genius and a criminal mastermind ... I didn't need the show to take me by the hand and explain how Walt re-sealed that sweetner. He's got that.

I just want some explanation of the process.  Mailing envelopes you can steam open because there's a seam where the flap meets the lower half of the envelope.  You don't get that in a sugar packet.  You just get one self contained pouch.
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Post by: Kete on September 30, 2013, 08:23:10 AM
By the way....Breaking Bad had the exact same ending as Lost:

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Post by: UncleDesmond on September 30, 2013, 09:18:07 AM
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Post by: wurwolf on September 30, 2013, 10:33:52 AM
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Well, thanks for that input.

Lots of folks aren't so enamored of this ending, my husband being one of them. They are unhappy with the fact that Walt was basically allowed to redeem himself and got everything he wanted, and I can see that being problematic. I was disappointed that he rescued Jesse, I think that was a bit of audience pandering there. But realistically, Jesse's being rescued like a Disney princess notwithstanding, I just don't know how they could have ended it otherwise. To end it without Walt redeeming himself, at least a little, would have been to just drop it and let it all splat. It would have been messy and nothing would have been resolved, just Walt dying and plot lines left open without any sort of conclusion. So I can see why lots of folks are saying that it would have been better to not allow Walt to get everything he wanted, but then I feel as though that would have just left the story unfinished and completely open-ended. One of the things I've appreciated about Breaking Bad is their commitment to a conclusion. The Sopranos ending always bothered me because it just stopped and nothing was resolved and personally I thought that sucked a whole lot.
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Post by: goflyblind on September 30, 2013, 10:35:04 AM
Walt's a chemical genius and a criminal mastermind ... I didn't need the show to take me by the hand and explain how Walt re-sealed that sweetner. He's got that.

I just want some explanation of the process.  Mailing envelopes you can steam open because there's a seam where the flap meets the lower half of the envelope.  You don't get that in a sugar packet.  You just get one self contained pouch.

y'know, i'm not bothered by that. what does bother me is how walt could be sure that the nazi funtime group would all be in the spray path. out of all the convoluted meanderings of this series, that's the one thing that'll bother me. ???
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Post by: wurwolf on September 30, 2013, 10:36:54 AM
Walt's a chemical genius and a criminal mastermind ... I didn't need the show to take me by the hand and explain how Walt re-sealed that sweetner. He's got that.

I just want some explanation of the process.  Mailing envelopes you can steam open because there's a seam where the flap meets the lower half of the envelope.  You don't get that in a sugar packet.  You just get one self contained pouch.

y'know, i'm not bothered by that. what does bother me is how walt could be sure that the nazi funtime group would all be in the spray path. out of all the convoluted meanderings of this series, that's the one thing that'll bother me. ???

I was bothered by the keys on the pool table under a fucking spotlight and he lifts them in the most obvious way possible in a room full of dudes who were supposed to be keeping an eye on him.
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Post by: Kete on September 30, 2013, 10:39:26 AM
White supremacists aren't typically known for their smarts.
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Post by: wurwolf on September 30, 2013, 10:46:12 AM
Or for their ability to spread out, as gofly pointed out.
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Post by: Thrifty Version II on September 30, 2013, 11:00:10 AM
The spray of bullets covered the whole room.  There really wasn't anywhere they could stand that wasn't in the path of the gun.
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Post by: goflyblind on September 30, 2013, 11:10:12 AM
The spray of bullets covered the whole room.  There really wasn't anywhere they could stand that wasn't in the path of the gun.

maybe outside, near the front gate of the big important compound that they might be paranoid about the gub'mint coming to?
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Post by: JP on September 30, 2013, 11:14:38 AM
I enjoyed the ending.  It may not have been the ending I would have written, but that's because I completely lack the vision needed to write for this incredible show.  The story is over and it was worth the ride.

Also, after watching Talking Bad (for the first time), I'm glad to know Vince Gilligan is not a pretentious prick.  Wish him much success in the future.
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Post by: Raven on September 30, 2013, 11:15:10 AM
Walt's a chemical genius and a criminal mastermind ... I didn't need the show to take me by the hand and explain how Walt re-sealed that sweetner. He's got that.

I just want some explanation of the process.  Mailing envelopes you can steam open because there's a seam where the flap meets the lower half of the envelope.  You don't get that in a sugar packet.  You just get one self contained pouch.

Here you go Thrifty

http://www.ehow.com/how_12209040_coin-sugar-packet-trick.html
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Post by: Thrifty Version II on September 30, 2013, 01:12:32 PM
‘Breaking Bad’ Ends With Reveal That Whole Series Was Plot Of Book Marie Shoplifted (http://www.theonion.com/articles/breaking-bad-ends-with-reveal-that-whole-series-wa,34036/)
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LOS ANGELES—Capping off five seasons of critically acclaimed television, the AMC series Breaking Bad concluded its run Sunday night with the shocking revelation that the entirety of the show’s story—from Walter White’s diagnosis with cancer to his transformation into a ruthless methamphetamine kingpin—was in fact merely the plotline of a crime novel that character Marie Schrader had shoplifted from a local bookstore. “What I wanted to create for the finale was an uncompromising conclusion focused on the show’s true emotional core: Marie’s kleptomania,” show creator Vince Gilligan said of the episode’s revelatory last scene, in which flashbacks to beloved moments from the show are intercut with shots of Marie flipping to chapters in the novel such as “Heisenberg’s New Hat,” “Trouble With Gus,” and “The Train Robbery.” “From day one of writing the show, I knew exactly how the story would play out: with virtually all of its central characters other than Marie—including Walter White, Jesse Pinkman, Saul Goodman, everyone—revealed to be fictitious figures in a paperback thriller Marie felt compelled to slip into her jacket in an Albuquerque-area Barnes & Noble. Marie uses this pulp crime novel to help herself deal with the guilt she has stemming from her own very real criminal behavior, which she tries desperately to hide from her husband, local mineralogist Hank Schrader.” Gilligan told reporters he is especially pleased with the final shot of the series, in which Marie closes the stolen book, revealing it had been titled Breaking Bad all along.

Remember the aborted "Marie's kleptomania" arc?
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Post by: RoninFox on September 30, 2013, 02:46:34 PM
There were parts of this show I predicted (or perhaps were just hoping for among the many possibilities) and parts that I was completely surprised by. 

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Post by: Raven on September 30, 2013, 03:07:59 PM
Is the Barrel Box set Blu-Ray or just DVD?   I think that might influence whether or not I pick it up.  If they're Blu-Rays I'll totally get rid of my individual seasons.
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Post by: RoninFox on September 30, 2013, 03:16:37 PM
It's Blu-Ray

http://www.breakingbadstore.com/breaking-bad-the-complete-series-blu-ray-box-set-with-free-t-shirt/details/28860080 (http://www.breakingbadstore.com/breaking-bad-the-complete-series-blu-ray-box-set-with-free-t-shirt/details/28860080)

Pricy, but damn it I want it.
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Post by: RoninFox on September 30, 2013, 03:40:59 PM
Oh, did anyone else spend the last few episodes trying to find the possible way to link the show with Malcom in the Middle?  My wife and I saw to obvious ones.

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Post by: Sugar Ray Dodge on September 30, 2013, 03:47:10 PM
Oh, did anyone else spend the last few episodes trying to find the possible way to link the show with Malcom in the Middle?  My wife and I saw to obvious ones.

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I've read this a lot on the internet, but since I have never seen Malcolm in the Middle, I would never have noticed them unless people pointed them out to me. It's an interesting theory, but I'm skeptical on how much of it was done on purpose. I think it's people seeing things they want to see.
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Post by: RoninFox on September 30, 2013, 04:04:25 PM
None of it was done on purpose, its just funny to think about.

It's just like the "theory" Dean Norris suggested that the blue meth turns people into zombies, making Breaking Bad the prequel to the Walking Dead.
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Post by: Bob on September 30, 2013, 04:37:55 PM
I pray you all went to teefury today and got that cool shirt like I did
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Post by: Sugar Ray Dodge on September 30, 2013, 04:39:58 PM
None of it was done on purpose, its just funny to think about.

Oh for sure. You get no argument from me there. :)
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Post by: Bob on September 30, 2013, 05:14:33 PM
I honestly cannot think of a better writing job that could have been done.   Walt knew what he had to do and had plans in place to do everything.

And the music at the end was perfect.
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Post by: Johnny Unusual on September 30, 2013, 05:19:49 PM
Yeah, a great song about Walt's real true love.
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Post by: Space version 2.0 on September 30, 2013, 06:56:01 PM
I pray you all went to teefury today and got that cool shirt like I did
Nope. I went to Ript  (https://www.riptapparel.com/)and got both of theirs (one on a hoodie, one on a shirt)

Glad they included Badger and Skinny Pete for "fan service" but still in a way that made sense. I was going to make a joke about hoping he would recruit them for a three-man assault on the compound before it actually aired. Maybe that's the alternate ending on the dvds
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Post by: TheUnabeefer on September 30, 2013, 07:19:29 PM
After I watched the first season, I was fairly certain it would end with him once again standing in the middle of the desert, holding a pistol, with sirens off in the distance... only this time it would actually be the police coming for him.

I like the ending they wrote better. Very satisfying.
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Post by: Kete on September 30, 2013, 10:25:09 PM
I'm a little sad that the Nazis didn't make him strip to his underwear when they were checking for a wire.
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Post by: RoninFox on September 30, 2013, 11:14:10 PM
After I watched the first season, I was fairly certain it would end with him once again standing in the middle of the desert, holding a pistol, with sirens off in the distance... only this time it would actually be the police coming for him.

I like the ending they wrote better. Very satisfying.

I like that one of the last episodes showed him walk past the pants he lost in the pilot.  That was enough of a full circle moment for me.
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Post by: Raven on October 01, 2013, 12:50:13 AM
Glad they included Badger and Skinny Pete for "fan service" but still in a way that made sense. I was going to make a joke about hoping he would recruit them for a three-man assault on the compound before it actually aired. Maybe that's the alternate ending on the dvds
I actually made that joke over on the Friendsinyourhead.com forum.  lol
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Post by: modelmeg on October 01, 2013, 07:44:14 PM
Just coming in here to say that I thought the finale was perfect. I've watched A LOT of tv shows and rarely have I found a finale as satisfying as that. The Six Feet Under finale is probably on par. It ripped my fucking heart out. But the show itself had a lot more bumps than Breaking Bad. The entire experience of Breaking Bad was satisfying in a way that television rarely is. It was like watching an extra long movie.
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Post by: TheUnabeefer on October 01, 2013, 07:52:21 PM
Just coming in here to say that I thought the finale was perfect. I've watched A LOT of tv shows and rarely have I found a finale as satisfying as that. The Six Feet Under finale is probably on par. It ripped my fucking heart out. But the show itself had a lot more bumps than Breaking Bad. The entire experience of Breaking Bad was satisfying in a way that television rarely is. It was like watching an extra long movie.

You and I have a lot in common.  ;)  So yeah, how you doin'?

Have you watched Fringe?
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Post by: Sugar Ray Dodge on October 01, 2013, 08:10:10 PM
I think they played it safe and very specifically chose not to throw us any crazy curveballs, as those kinds of endings to shows have had disastrous consequences on the show's legacy with it's fanbase in the last ten years. Lost (who's ending that I decided I liked after about two weeks), Battlestar Galactica (which was very polarizing) and The Sopranos and Star Trek: Enterprise (which were almost universally condemned as horrible ideas) are examples.
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Post by: wurwolf on October 02, 2013, 06:14:18 AM
And the music at the end was perfect.

http://www.youtube.com/v/XiY0hZ5YKPY

(You're the best, gofly, thanks.)
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Post by: goflyblind on October 02, 2013, 06:15:48 AM
(YouTube changed the code and I don't know how to embed videos any more.)

replace the "watch?v=" with "v/" and throw some [flash=x,y] tags around it.
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Post by: wurwolf on October 02, 2013, 06:20:36 AM
(YouTube changed the code and I don't know how to embed videos any more.)

replace the "watch?v=" with "v/" and throw some [flash=x,y] tags around it.

Wow, those YouTube assholes got tricky when I wasn't looking. Thanks.
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Post by: modelmeg on October 02, 2013, 03:03:36 PM
Just coming in here to say that I thought the finale was perfect. I've watched A LOT of tv shows and rarely have I found a finale as satisfying as that. The Six Feet Under finale is probably on par. It ripped my fucking heart out. But the show itself had a lot more bumps than Breaking Bad. The entire experience of Breaking Bad was satisfying in a way that television rarely is. It was like watching an extra long movie.

You and I have a lot in common.  ;)  So yeah, how you doin'?

Have you watched Fringe?

I watched up to the middle of the second season. I liked it but some of it was hitting too close to home at the time and I decided to stop. I'll probably come back to it at some point.
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Post by: TheUnabeefer on October 02, 2013, 03:42:05 PM
Just coming in here to say that I thought the finale was perfect. I've watched A LOT of tv shows and rarely have I found a finale as satisfying as that. The Six Feet Under finale is probably on par. It ripped my fucking heart out. But the show itself had a lot more bumps than Breaking Bad. The entire experience of Breaking Bad was satisfying in a way that television rarely is. It was like watching an extra long movie.

You and I have a lot in common.  ;)  So yeah, how you doin'?

Have you watched Fringe?

I watched up to the middle of the second season. I liked it but some of it was hitting too close to home at the time and I decided to stop. I'll probably come back to it at some point.

That's why I had to stop watching Mad Men after season 3.
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Post by: Thrifty Version II on October 02, 2013, 03:45:26 PM
I don't like that Walt was about to get his way with the money by coercing Gretchen and Elliott into laundering his drug money.
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Post by: lassieface on October 02, 2013, 09:10:43 PM
There is no way anyone could have written a better ending than that. Just outstanding from start to finish. Now my life is empty.
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Post by: modelmeg on October 02, 2013, 10:02:52 PM
There is no way anyone could have written a better ending than that. Just outstanding from start to finish. Now my life is empty.

Ahh, the vast emptiness after finishing a show you've been watching for a while. There's always a sense of "Okay, what the fuck do I do with my time now?"
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Post by: Bob on October 03, 2013, 02:51:05 AM
There is no way anyone could have written a better ending than that. Just outstanding from start to finish. Now my life is empty.

Ahh, the vast emptiness after finishing a show you've been watching for a while. There's always a sense of "Okay, what the fuck do I do with my time now?"

I have all 62 episodes on my receiver thanks to their recast of them all last week.    I'm covered.
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Post by: wurwolf on October 03, 2013, 08:24:24 AM
This was in the comments section of the AV Club review of "Felina", and I pretty much agree with it in regards to Walt winning or getting his way at the end:

Quote
About Walt winning: I saw something similar elsewhere in the thread which said at the end, "For Walter White, crime DID pay". But the poster only picked out the obvious things that Walt got during the finale - he took down the Aryans, he manipulated the Schwartzes into giving his money to his family, and by doing that he manipulated his family into receiving the money they did not want.

BUT, my epigraph to "For Walter White, crime DID pay" is, "but it did not pay nearly enough". Think of everything Walt has lost during the entire run of this series - his family's love, respect, and presence; his legacy; his humanity, until the very end when he is able to reclaim a shred of it; his good name - his son is doubly-saddled with notoriety now; even those who appreciated his scientific talents are all gone and forgotten except for Jesse, who will never sing the praises of Walt's genius.

So I don't see this finale as redeeming Walter White in an "unfair" way. He was allowed just as much redemption as he deserved. He did get *some* of what he wanted, at the end, but only after giving up what he fought all through the series to gain and keep. His pride and his feeling of being alive, of being good at something and recognized for it.
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Post by: wurwolf on October 03, 2013, 08:27:12 AM
Also, thought I'd share this for funsies. It's a Breaking Bad blog, features a lot of neat fan art and gif sets.

http://heisenbergchronicles.tumblr.com/
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Post by: Sugar Ray Dodge on October 03, 2013, 09:23:34 AM
How did they get that baby to act so well and say Mamama? That was prooty dang good if you ask me.
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Post by: goflyblind on October 03, 2013, 09:56:33 AM
How did they get that baby to act so well and say Mamama? That was prooty dang good if you ask me.

taser.
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Post by: eegah on October 03, 2013, 10:22:43 AM
I have a question: what happened to Hank's truck?

If the Nazis left it there, it (and Hank and Steve's graves) would have been found.
If they took it, they would've probably had to tow it way since it probably wasn't functional.
If they moved it away from the road, it still probably would've been seen from the air in the months before Walt returns, unless they also covered it.
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Post by: Kete on October 03, 2013, 10:24:05 AM
I'm pretty sure I remember seeing them put it on a wrecker or something.  They took it with them.
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Post by: eegah on October 03, 2013, 10:24:56 AM
Ok, must've missed that.
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Post by: Sugar Ray Dodge on October 03, 2013, 10:26:13 AM
Yeah, Jack's guys towed it. I would imagine they took it to Old Joe after that since that's where Todd took Mike's car.
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Post by: Kete on October 03, 2013, 10:28:49 AM
I just found out that Ozymandias was directed by Rian Johnson.  Nice work!
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Post by: Sugar Ray Dodge on October 03, 2013, 10:56:12 AM
Is he the guy who directed Looper? That was a great movie.
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Post by: Johnny Unusual on October 03, 2013, 04:46:57 PM
Latin-American Breaking Bad

http://www.youtube.com/v/Mpg2MvVPV7Y

OK, the show looks cheap, but that's not necessarily bad.  But that voice over sounds like there's going to be a punch line... and there isn't.
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Post by: Raven on October 03, 2013, 09:01:39 PM
How did they get that baby to act so well and say Mamama? That was prooty dang good if you ask me.

I listened to a commentary track and the baby's mother is always just off screen and it was just a happy accident that it said mama a couple of times.  Cranston just acted through it and that's the take they used.
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Post by: Sugar Ray Dodge on October 03, 2013, 09:55:17 PM
How did they get that baby to act so well and say Mamama? That was prooty dang good if you ask me.

I listened to a commentary track and the baby's mother is always just off screen and it was just a happy accident that it said mama a couple of times.  Cranston just acted through it and that's the take they used.

That's pretty amazing. I think it's one of the series best moments.
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Post by: ShadowDog on October 04, 2013, 01:48:57 AM
Yeah sometimes you just get lucky. I've never worked with babies in my films but if I did I would be happy if the baby didn't piddle during the scene. This kind of luck would be awesome.
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Post by: goflyblind on October 04, 2013, 05:51:42 AM
(https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/7833470976/h37D09B81/)
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Post by: Variety of Cells on October 04, 2013, 07:01:23 AM
Yeah sometimes you just get lucky. I've never worked with babies in my films but if I did I would be happy if the baby didn't piddle during the scene. This kind of luck would be awesome.

In your films?  What do you do?
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Post by: TheUnabeefer on October 04, 2013, 12:58:50 PM
Yeah sometimes you just get lucky. I've never worked with babies in my films but if I did I would be happy if the baby didn't piddle during the scene. This kind of luck would be awesome.

In your films?  What do you do?

He makes films.
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Post by: Variety of Cells on October 04, 2013, 01:09:11 PM
Yeah sometimes you just get lucky. I've never worked with babies in my films but if I did I would be happy if the baby didn't piddle during the scene. This kind of luck would be awesome.

In your films?  What do you do?

He makes films.

Yes but I was wondering in what capacity and where, being in the film business myself. 
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Post by: Thrifty Version II on October 04, 2013, 03:29:14 PM
Yeah sometimes you just get lucky. I've never worked with babies in my films but if I did I would be happy if the baby didn't piddle during the scene. This kind of luck would be awesome.

In your films?  What do you do?

He makes films.

Yes but I was wondering in what capacity and where, being in the film business myself.
Amateur pornography, but of a non-sexual nature.
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Post by: ShadowDog on October 04, 2013, 03:57:14 PM
LOL I am in the porn state, North Carolina ... but no.

I write and exec produce Indie films. In the middle of producing a locally syndicated TV series which shoots next March. Its all pretty small time but very fun.
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Post by: eegah on October 04, 2013, 06:58:31 PM
Amateur pornography, but of a non-sexual nature.
???
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Post by: goflyblind on October 05, 2013, 04:41:15 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BVvNNn3CUAE0LLY.jpg)

http://www.cbc.ca/newsblogs/yourcommunity/2013/10/breaking-bad-fans-place-walter-white-obituary-in-albuquerque-newspaper.html
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Post by: wurwolf on October 05, 2013, 05:25:05 AM
I love that obituary. Poorly worded, but so awesome.

I would totes wear a shirt with this on it:

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/39c0120ec10446d508ddc18d50d45421/tumblr_mu4h9xuqlG1qhbhvxo1_500.jpg)
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Post by: d00hickey on October 05, 2013, 04:30:06 PM
One thing that bugs me is everyone is unanimous that Walt is dead. The location of the gunshot wound would have punctured his large intestine and maybe clip a kidney, any surgeon could tell you that this would be a very survivable wound if treated within 24 hrs. It was also clear that he didn't loose that much blood and was walking around without pain moments before lying down. I understand he was dying from lung cancer which would compound the effects of the wound but he still would have died a much slower less active death. I guess my point is did the creators intend on everyone having this interpretation or not?
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Post by: eegah on October 05, 2013, 06:13:36 PM
One thing that bugs me is everyone is unanimous that Walt is dead. The location of the gunshot wound would have punctured his large intestine and maybe clip a kidney, any surgeon could tell you that this would be a very survivable wound if treated within 24 hrs. It was also clear that he didn't loose that much blood and was walking around without pain moments before lying down. I understand he was dying from lung cancer which would compound the effects of the wound but he still would have died a much slower less active death. I guess my point is did the creators intend on everyone having this interpretation or not?

The clincher for me is that the SWAT team quickly checked him and moved on with their backs to him, as if he was dead and, therefore, not a threat.
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Post by: goflyblind on October 05, 2013, 06:14:58 PM
i feel like gilligan said he was dead in that colbert interview the night after, but i can't remember for sure.
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Post by: d00hickey on October 05, 2013, 07:05:13 PM
One thing that bugs me is everyone is unanimous that Walt is dead. The location of the gunshot wound would have punctured his large intestine and maybe clip a kidney, any surgeon could tell you that this would be a very survivable wound if treated within 24 hrs. It was also clear that he didn't loose that much blood and was walking around without pain moments before lying down. I understand he was dying from lung cancer which would compound the effects of the wound but he still would have died a much slower less active death. I guess my point is did the creators intend on everyone having this interpretation or not?

The clincher for me is that the SWAT team quickly checked him and moved on with their backs to him, as if he was dead and, therefore, not a threat.

I thought the same but after viewing it again you clearly see one guy stops to stay with him and the others proceed to search and then the credits roll.
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Post by: TheUnabeefer on October 05, 2013, 07:35:25 PM
Didn't he die with his eyes open!? I'd say that was a fair clincher to his death....
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Post by: ShadowDog on October 06, 2013, 03:46:42 AM
Hey, if Padme can die from a broken heart, one poorly placed gunshot wound can kill Walt.
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Post by: Sugar Ray Dodge on October 06, 2013, 08:56:47 AM
"Losing the will to lives kills thousands of fictional characters each year. Be sure  you're immunized."
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Post by: Thrifty Version II on October 06, 2013, 01:34:51 PM
I lost the will to live YEARS ago, but I'm still kicking.
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Post by: Sugar Ray Dodge on October 06, 2013, 02:00:59 PM
Because you're immunized. See, it works.
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Post by: Sugar Ray Dodge on October 06, 2013, 09:01:33 PM
Knowing a little about these kinds of weapons from the decade I spent in the US Army, I assumed that he was hit by a ricochet and hemorrhaged internally, which is why it took so damn long.

My brother and I were talking about it today, and he expressed a post-finale desire to maybe have seen Walt find his money still on the back of the truck and drove off behind Jesse with it to live happily ever after somewhere. The wound could easily have been superficial because we really didn't see that much of Walt's blood. But, of course, we realize that the implication was that he died, so he died. And even though we never saw Lydia's bones, the implication was that she would die, so she died. Anything they go out of their way to state in a finale like this, such as Elliot and Gretchen's delivery of Walt's money to his son, is what will canonically happen.

And it really did end the right way. I don't think there was a better way for the show to end. Even though Walt died, the audience is left with a happy feeling because of Walt's demeanor and the tone set by the music. It is a happy ending for the audience, which, ultimately, is all that matters.
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Post by: d00hickey on October 07, 2013, 11:02:05 AM
The thing that has been bothering me about the finale is that there didn't seem to be an exit wound to Walt's injury. I'm thinking that an M60 firing AP rounds has enough velocity to be able to pass through the cinder block and then right through Walt, unless it ricocheted off of something. Did anyone in the room get a shot off before they were shredded to pieces? Maybe Todd's uncle?

I kind of assumed he was hit by a bullet from the frantic fire of the gang, but then again I don't remember if they were explicitly shown firing back/wildly into the air. A 7.62 high velocity round would have done some serious damage, but it was going through the car's trunk, cinder block walls, and whatever else might have been in the way. Maybe it was a fragment or shrapnel.

Also, I may be wrong on this. They didn't show Walt acquire the M60, did they? If not it's a pretty big plot point, you cant just go pick up an M60 from craigslist and Walt was seriously isolated with no contacts left.   
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Post by: Thrifty Version II on October 07, 2013, 11:23:06 AM
Also, I may be wrong on this. They didn't show Walt acquire the M60, did they? If not it's a pretty big plot point, you cant just go pick up an M60 from craigslist and Walt was seriously isolated with no contacts left.

That was shown in the opening flash forward which aired last year at the beginning of the season.  Walt knows an arms dealer.
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Post by: wurwolf on October 07, 2013, 12:29:20 PM
Also, I may be wrong on this. They didn't show Walt acquire the M60, did they? If not it's a pretty big plot point, you cant just go pick up an M60 from craigslist and Walt was seriously isolated with no contacts left.

That was shown in the opening flash forward which aired last year at the beginning of the season.  Walt knows an arms dealer.

Played by the ever delightful Jim Beaver.
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Post by: Johnny Unusual on October 16, 2013, 05:00:56 PM
http://www.youtube.com/v/DvGCYyZPYPg
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Post by: Thrifty Version II on October 19, 2013, 12:41:02 PM
So how's Low Winter Sun doing now that it doesn't have "being right after Breaking Bad" to rely on for viewers?
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Post by: Bob on October 19, 2013, 03:55:08 PM
So how's Low Winter Sun doing now that it doesn't have "being right after Breaking Bad" to rely on for viewers?

Great season one
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Post by: gbeenie on October 23, 2013, 01:07:36 PM
I don't like that Walt was about to get his way with the money by coercing Gretchen and Elliott into laundering his drug money.

I loved that. It was comeuppance for their own douchebaggery, but in a way that seemed genuinely proportional.
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Post by: gbeenie on October 23, 2013, 01:14:36 PM
How did they get that baby to act so well and say Mamama? That was prooty dang good if you ask me.

I listened to a commentary track and the baby's mother is always just off screen and it was just a happy accident that it said mama a couple of times.  Cranston just acted through it and that's the take they used.

That's a perfect microcosm of just why the show was so top-to-bottom brilliant. Yes, Vince Gilligan had a very specific idea and vision of how he wanted the series to play out; but, he wasn't so inflexible that he couldn't see the happy accidents that happened all along the series' making, and use them to make Breaking Bad even better.

Such adaptability might have saved us all from the deeply-shitty, 100%-irredeemable ending to Battlestar Galactica.  :)
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Post by: Johnny Unusual on November 07, 2013, 07:01:34 PM
Looks like my dream is coming true!  While Better Call Saul will be a prequel, it will also be a sequel!

http://www.avclub.com/articles/that-saul-goodman-breaking-bad-spinoff-may-be-both,105288/

Thank you!  This could have lots of great potential: maybe it's a reverse Breaking Bad, about a Saul turning into a better man... in his own scummy way (like maybe using unlawful, underhanded tactics to save an orphanage or something).
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Post by: MrTorso on November 08, 2013, 07:51:57 PM
My wife was in Albuquerque and got me some Blue Sky!!

(https://scontent-b-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/1391892_10202259925767627_1323325735_n.jpg)
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Post by: Sugar Ray Dodge on November 09, 2013, 09:41:47 PM
TUCKER! TUCKER, SHUT THE DAMN DOOR!
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Post by: Rainbow Dash on November 16, 2013, 05:48:04 PM
Official Alternate Ending!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kZivVxB3vU
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Post by: The Lurker on November 17, 2013, 08:17:50 PM
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
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Post by: Johnny Unusual on November 19, 2013, 05:47:58 PM
Breaking open the disk.

http://www.youtube.com/v/Hu2bdpxpt94

I'm usually not into opening videos, but it is neat to see Vince Gilligan (AKA southern John Hodgman) open it up.
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Post by: Sugar Ray Dodge on December 12, 2013, 12:04:50 PM
Can't see any of those videos anymore.

Thinking about the series as a whole, particularly the 5th season, if everybody had just listened to Walt and done what he said, things would have turned out great for everybody. This is my entire pro-Walt argument. It was everybody's decision to turn on Walt that ultimately does them in. Walt opens doors left and right to Hank, Skyler and Jesse all the way to the very end. He wants them to share in his winnings, but they are too hung up on what has happened in the past to listen. He tried to buy Hank's life with all his money, tried to get his money to Skyler to help her, but she and Flynn wouldn't take it. So I don't buy this business that it was Walt that destroyed everybody's lives. You look at Walt's actions in the last season and you see a man desperately trying to save not only everything he's worked for, but trying to save Hank, Jesse and Skyler from destroying themselves in their attempts to destroy him. And before anybody calls me a horrible person again, I am speaking about all of this from within in the context of the show. Of course if this was real life, a different set of standards would apply. But it isn't real life, and thus standards of in-world context apply.
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Post by: Space version 2.0 on December 12, 2013, 12:23:26 PM
In the context of the show he cooked method which led to the ruining of hundreds/thousands of lives.

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Post by: Sugar Ray Dodge on December 12, 2013, 12:40:13 PM
And Walt was the only person who made decisions for everybody? Huh, that's weird. I wish I had that kinda power.
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Post by: Thrifty Version II on December 12, 2013, 03:26:50 PM
And Walt was the only person who made decisions for everybody? Huh, that's weird. I wish I had that kinda power.
He certainly made the decision to have about a dozen witnesses killed.

What Walt could have done is left his ego in check, taken Gretchen and Elliot up on their offer to pay his medical bills, and NOT become a murderous, life ruining criminal.
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Post by: Sugar Ray Dodge on December 12, 2013, 03:31:43 PM
And Walt was the only person who made decisions for everybody? Huh, that's weird. I wish I had that kinda power.
He certainly made the decision to have about a dozen witnesses killed.

What Walt could have done is left his ego in check, taken Gretchen and Elliot up on their offer to pay his medical bills, and NOT become a murderous, life ruining criminal.

Well, the flaw in that argument would be that "then there would be no show." And, ironically, that also cancels out o my own argument. If everybody just did the right thing there would be no conflict.
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Post by: RoninFox on December 12, 2013, 03:44:28 PM
And Walt was the only person who made decisions for everybody? Huh, that's weird. I wish I had that kinda power.
He certainly made the decision to have about a dozen witnesses killed.

What Walt could have done is left his ego in check, taken Gretchen and Elliot up on their offer to pay his medical bills, and NOT become a murderous, life ruining criminal.

Well, the flaw in that argument would be that "then there would be no show." And, ironically, that also cancels out o my own argument. If everybody just did the right thing there would be no conflict.

Neither of those alternatives would have made for a better show.  Luckily the character of Walt was defined enough so that not taking the money from Gretchen and Eliot made sense in terms of his wounded pride. 

Also, everyone who turned against Walt was completely justified in doing so.  Maybe, yes, if they'd listened to his plans and gone along with him things might have turned out much differently, but then again maybe not.  Walt had not only actively ruined or destroyed many lives, he had proven to be self-destructive.  Any time things started to calm down in his life, he became his own worst enemy and created the next wave of chaos.  If that had been allowed to continue, who knows how many more people would have been hurt.
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Post by: Sugar Ray Dodge on December 12, 2013, 06:22:24 PM
Well, I agree that Walt bears a great deal of responsibility for a lot of stuff that happened, but I'm apprehensive about putting it all there. Almost everybody made decisions that had consequences, and Walt is only responsible for them indirectly.

For example; Jane's death, which wasn't Walt's fault, was what sent Q into a downward spiral emotionally, no question. Walt could have prevented that, but he didn't. However, it was entirely Q's decision to return to work. You can't blame him for wanting to get on with his life, but it was his decision that caused that plane crash.

Another example, I don't believe that Hank's death is really Walt's fault at all. He definitely set in motion the events that led to it, but so many other people making poor decisions contributed to the escalation, something Walt was trying desperately to prevent. He was trying to make things right with both Hank and Jesse the entire season and was opening doors for both of them left and right. He even called off Jack and his thugs and gave himself up, and after that went south he tried to buy Hank's life. He was willing to part with his entire fortune if it saved Hank's life. However! However I will admit that this was the end result of most of Walt's crimes. It's kind of a conundrum, really. Did he cause Hank's death? I'm gonna say probably, but it wasn't just him.

So, does a lot of blame deserve to go to Walt? Hell, even the majority of the blame? I say yes. Killing Mike when he didn't have to, I think, was probably the most heinous, unforgivable thing he did on that show. The guys in prison I don't really care about so much, because you could kinda tell that they were all headed for the graveyard from the word go and also because we didn't know them as well as we knew Mike. But does he deserve ALL the blame for everything that happened? Absolutely not. Hank, Jesse, Skyler and Gus all bear a great deal of responsibility as well, that's all I'm saying. I hope I'm not coming across as a know-it-all dick, because that's not how I'm intending this to sound. I just want to explain why I think what I think.
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Post by: Sugar Ray Dodge on December 12, 2013, 06:32:01 PM
And Walt was the only person who made decisions for everybody? Huh, that's weird. I wish I had that kinda power.
He certainly made the decision to have about a dozen witnesses killed.

What Walt could have done is left his ego in check, taken Gretchen and Elliot up on their offer to pay his medical bills, and NOT become a murderous, life ruining criminal.

And honestly, man, I'll never understand why you take this show so seriously. If Walt were an angel, the show would have done worse than suck, it would have been non-existent. You have to have drama. I get that people really like to get into these kind of shows, I do. These things are big parts of our lives because we devote so much time and emotion into them. But in the end it's just a show. Walter White isn't real. It's entertainment. I'll never understand why you take such offense to me looking at the show in a different way than you do. Really. You have called me a horrible person for it. "You are really starting to offend me, blah, blah, blah," well, I'm sorry about that, but it sounds to me like a personal problem.
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Post by: RoninFox on December 12, 2013, 06:58:27 PM
Well, I agree that Walt bears a great deal of responsibility for a lot of stuff that happened, but I'm apprehensive about putting it all there. Almost everybody made decisions that had consequences, and Walt is only responsible for them indirectly.

For example; Jane's death, which wasn't Walt's fault, was what sent Q into a downward spiral emotionally, no question. Walt could have prevented that, but he didn't. However, it was entirely Q's decision to return to work. You can't blame him for wanting to get on with his life, but it was his decision that caused that plane crash.

Another example, I don't believe that Hank's death is really Walt's fault at all. He definitely set in motion the events that led to it, but so many other people making poor decisions contributed to the escalation, something Walt was trying desperately to prevent. He was trying to make things right with both Hank and Jesse the entire season and was opening doors for both of them left and right. He even called off Jack and his thugs and gave himself up, and after that went south he tried to buy Hank's life. He was willing to part with his entire fortune if it saved Hank's life. However! However I will admit that this was the end result of most of Walt's crimes. It's kind of a conundrum, really. Did he cause Hank's death? I'm gonna say probably, but it wasn't just him.

So, does a lot of blame deserve to go to Walt? Hell, even the majority of the blame? I say yes. Killing Mike when he didn't have to, I think, was probably the most heinous, unforgivable thing he did on that show. The guys in prison I don't really care about so much, because you could kinda tell that they were all headed for the graveyard from the word go and also because we didn't know them as well as we knew Mike. But does he deserve ALL the blame for everything that happened? Absolutely not. Hank, Jesse, Skyler and Gus all bear a great deal of responsibility as well, that's all I'm saying. I hope I'm not coming across as a know-it-all dick, because that's not how I'm intending this to sound. I just want to explain why I think what I think.

I'm just enjoying the fact that it's still possible to debate the show, it shows that it's still rich that there's still something to talk about this long after the finale.

Of course, Walter doesn't deserve ALL of the blame, there were a lot of bad decisions all around.  In the end though, he chose to remain in a business that provides nothing but evil in exchange for money.  Every customer that bought blue, whether we saw them or not, suffered by being exposed to a purer and, I'm assuming, more addictive form of meth.  Was it thier decision to buy and use drugs?  Yes.  But it was Walter's fault that they even had that opportunity.  He had several opportunities to walk away, and minimize the damage he had already done, and he always chose to go the way of greed and selfishness, making things worse.  In the end he was able to help his family and Jessie, and several of the people he actively killed were outright monsters, but beyond those points he left the world around him a worse place through his presence.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Sugar Ray Dodge on December 12, 2013, 07:50:56 PM
And the process of trying to make everything right cost him his life. I think in a lot of ways, at least in television, that self-sacrifice or being killed trying to make up for what you did constitutes absolution for that character. Consider Michael from Lost. He got blown up trying to redeem himself and help his friends, he paid the ultimate price. Like David Morse said in the Green Mile, "He's square with the house again." I tend to have that mindset when it comes to death and redemption within the context of a television world, which is why I was kind of mad at the writers for making him a ghost on the Island instead of putting him in the chapel in the series finale. Hell, Ben committed way more murders than Michael did, and not only did he make it into the Sideways world, he was forgiven by Locke and personally invited to join the group of FRIENDS inside the chapel. That really was my only complaint about the last season of Lost. Well, that and Frank's almost irrelevance throughout the season until the finale. He was basically luggage and had a much less significant role compared to seasons 4 & 5. I really wish they hadn't just written off the mystery of his backstory in an anticlimactic, matter of fact conversation with Ben, especially when the answer to all that was "I overslept." WHAT?! That's all we get?! FUCK YOU, LOST! Out of ALL the stuff that got little to no explanation in the last season, this was the ONLY ONE that pissed me off because I really wanted to know why the hell that guy was so goddamn special, but I ramble on. Getting back to Breaking Bad...

Regarding the last scene, I loved how they had it both ways with Walt. That song they chose not only acknowledged that Walt got what he deserved by losing his family and dying, but also played to Walt's final satisfaction with his life. He died in a place that made him happy and where he was the best at what he did. When Walt gets upset with Jesse about quitting in "Say My Name," he's not wrong about walking away from something that you are the absolute best at, something that gives your life meaning and raises you above a merely adequate existence. I think striving for something like that is important in life, and this is how the show handles that topic. In the end, Walt dies happy, knowing his succeeded in his original goal which was to take care of his family after he was gone, while at the same time paying the price for the actions he took to accomplish that. And it's also a very happy ending for the audience. How you feel when the show is over will inform how you look back on the series for the rest of your life, and the feelings invoked by the images combined with the music and lyrics definitely leaves us with a feeling of satisfaction and the feeling that the entire ride was worth it.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Thrifty Version II on December 12, 2013, 07:53:59 PM
And Walt was the only person who made decisions for everybody? Huh, that's weird. I wish I had that kinda power.
He certainly made the decision to have about a dozen witnesses killed.

What Walt could have done is left his ego in check, taken Gretchen and Elliot up on their offer to pay his medical bills, and NOT become a murderous, life ruining criminal.

And honestly, man, I'll never understand why you take this show so seriously. If Walt were an angel, the show would have done worse than suck, it would have been non-existent. You have to have drama. I get that people really like to get into these kind of shows, I do. These things are big parts of our lives because we devote so much time and emotion into them. But in the end it's just a show. Walter White isn't real. It's entertainment. I'll never understand why you take such offense to me looking at the show in a different way than you do. Really. You have called me a horrible person for it. "You are really starting to offend me, blah, blah, blah," well, I'm sorry about that, but it sounds to me like a personal problem.
I don't take it seriously.  You're the one who keeps bringing this up. 

I do, however, take stupid arguments seriously.  I do point out flawed thinking patterns that try to take a fictional character who is clearly a villain and trying to exonerate him through strained logic.  Do you write essays on how poor Scrooge was bullied by those awful ghosts?  Or how Lex Luthor was just an ambitious businessman done in by meddling Superman?  These apologetic posts you write are just so offensively stupid.  What did you expect?
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Sugar Ray Dodge on December 12, 2013, 07:54:15 PM
Of course, Walter doesn't deserve ALL of the blame, there were a lot of bad decisions all around.  In the end though, he chose to remain in a business that provides nothing but evil in exchange for money.  Every customer that bought blue, whether we saw them or not, suffered by being exposed to a purer and, I'm assuming, more addictive form of meth.  Was it thier decision to buy and use drugs?  Yes.  But it was Walter's fault that they even had that opportunity.  He had several opportunities to walk away, and minimize the damage he had already done, and he always chose to go the way of greed and selfishness, making things worse.  In the end he was able to help his family and Jessie, and several of the people he actively killed were outright monsters, but beyond those points he left the world around him a worse place through his presence.

I will definitely concede that Walt left the world in a worse state than he otherwise would have. I don't think that's arguable at all.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: RoninFox on December 12, 2013, 07:57:07 PM
I agree that there was a level of absolution in the ending, but it wasn't total.  He was seeking absolution on many fronts, and one of the most telling aspects of that search is that he stopped lying to himself and Skylar at the end.  The "I did it for me" scene was one of the most important parts of the finale for me.  He finally stopped making excuses, and accepted punishment, while trying to save everyone he could.  He didn't realy expect to be completely forgiven, he knew he was far beyond that.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Johnny Unusual on December 12, 2013, 08:05:53 PM
Yeah, I think it was more about winning than forgiveness.  That's not to say that he didn't care about whether his family was taken care of, but Walt must admit he put himself first.  Still, getting his family taken care of and the nazis "taken care of" is part of his big victory.  The only thing he didn't win in his otherwise total victory was getting killed by Jessie, but Jessie cares far less about victory than he does survival.  And the whole Jessie thing was a loss he could live with, especially since that was the one thing that didn't go down like he expected (and since this whole revenge was started because he thought he was betrayed because Jessie was alive).  I think in the end that Walter is a monster, but he is still a very human monster with some screwed-up priorities.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Sugar Ray Dodge on December 12, 2013, 08:23:20 PM
And Walt was the only person who made decisions for everybody? Huh, that's weird. I wish I had that kinda power.
He certainly made the decision to have about a dozen witnesses killed.

What Walt could have done is left his ego in check, taken Gretchen and Elliot up on their offer to pay his medical bills, and NOT become a murderous, life ruining criminal.

And honestly, man, I'll never understand why you take this show so seriously. If Walt were an angel, the show would have done worse than suck, it would have been non-existent. You have to have drama. I get that people really like to get into these kind of shows, I do. These things are big parts of our lives because we devote so much time and emotion into them. But in the end it's just a show. Walter White isn't real. It's entertainment. I'll never understand why you take such offense to me looking at the show in a different way than you do. Really. You have called me a horrible person for it. "You are really starting to offend me, blah, blah, blah," well, I'm sorry about that, but it sounds to me like a personal problem.
I don't take it seriously.  You're the one who keeps bringing this up. 

I do, however, take stupid arguments seriously.  I do point out flawed thinking patterns that try to take a fictional character who is clearly a villain and trying to exonerate him through strained logic.  Do you write essays on how poor Scrooge was bullied by those awful ghosts?  Or how Lex Luthor was just an ambitious businessman done in by meddling Superman?  These apologetic posts you write are just so offensively stupid.  What did you expect?

Okay, first of all, the fact that you can't argue with any of my points without calling me stupid and not offering any legitimate counterpoints shows what an utterly horrible debater you are. You can't or won't counter anything I say with a rational argument, you just call names, so please tell me why I should take you seriously. You have even FAILED to articulate WHY I or my opinions are offensive and stupid. I come to this thread with "This is what I think and these are the examples of why I think it." But you can't or won't do that. You're so offended that I don't see things the way you do, for God knows what reason, that you only respond with self-important, mean-spirited and emotional rants against me personally. You can disagree with me all day long, I'm totally cool with that, but to say I'm stupid because I offer an opinion you don't like is arrogant and lazy. You have NEVER "pointed out flawed thinking patterns." Not once. Ever. You're views are NOT axiomatic, dude. You declaring something is stupid because it's not the way you see things isn't an argument. In fact, it's the polar opposite of an argument. It's the utter absence of one.

And on this "horrible person" business, seriously man, what the hell have I ever done to you or to anybody else here that is so goddamn bad that it constitutes me being a horrible person? And we're not even talking about me, we're talking about the show and the characters. The fact that you want to make the argument about me and not the show PROVES that you take the show way too seriously. The fact that a different take on the show is OFFENSIVE says more about YOU as a person than it does about me. I won't say you're a horrible or stupid person, because, believe it or not, I'm a nice fucking guy.

EDIT: OH! And one more thing, then I'll shut up. Does it make somebody a horrible person to root for a serial killer who commits WAY MORE COLD BLOODED MURDERS than Walt ever did just because he happens to be the show's protagonist. Check with the fans of Dexter on that one, because, for all his charm and ethics, Dexter Morgan is an utter monster who deserves to die by this standard a lot more than Walter White. I'm not trying to talk down Dexter, because I actually think it's a good show despite the fact that it makes me uneasy from the sheer volume of horrific murders it features, I'm just trying to make a point. Walt is the protagonist on his show, just like Dexter is, and it isn't unreasonable to root for the protagonist. That's all I'm saying.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Sugar Ray Dodge on December 12, 2013, 08:27:29 PM
Yeah, I think it was more about winning than forgiveness.  That's not to say that he didn't care about whether his family was taken care of, but Walt must admit he put himself first.  Still, getting his family taken care of and the nazis "taken care of" is part of his big victory.  The only thing he didn't win in his otherwise total victory was getting killed by Jessie, but Jessie cares far less about victory than he does survival.  And the whole Jessie thing was a loss he could live with, especially since that was the one thing that didn't go down like he expected (and since this whole revenge was started because he thought he was betrayed because Jessie was alive).  I think in the end that Walter is a monster, but he is still a very human monster with some screwed-up priorities.

I think I can go along with this, actually. Although, I would argue that guilt, revenge and absolution fueled his desire to win. I think you're last sentence pretty much sums it all up.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: gbeenie on December 13, 2013, 11:45:51 PM
The only thing he didn't win in his otherwise total victory was getting killed by Jessie,

Or regain the love/respect of his son. Part of Walter's sort-of redemption at the end was that he accepted there was no way to do that, and he chose to walk away.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: ShadowDog on December 14, 2013, 03:13:53 AM
Walt HAD to kill Mike in order to kill all those witnesses in prison. His action may have been spur of the moment but it had to be done. Because the second Mike heard about those prison deaths he was coming out of hiding to ventilate Walt's skull. Which, btw, is how Jesse knew for a fact Mike was dead. Jesse knew Walt would never have the guts to order those hits if Mike was still out there.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Sugar Ray Dodge on December 14, 2013, 09:29:27 AM
Walt HAD to kill Mike in order to kill all those witnesses in prison. His action may have been spur of the moment but it had to be done. Because the second Mike heard about those prison deaths he was coming out of hiding to ventilate Walt's skull. Which, btw, is how Jesse knew for a fact Mike was dead. Jesse knew Walt would never have the guts to order those hits if Mike was still out there.

My brother makes this argument too, and it totally holds water. But mike was just a such a great character and guy that it's one of the harder things to forgive Walt for.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: wurwolf on December 16, 2013, 01:35:15 PM
Walter White is Time's Most Influential Fictional Character of 2013 (http://poy.time.com/2013/12/09/the-11-most-influential-fictional-characters-of-2013/slide/walter-white/)

(http://timepoy.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/characters-009.jpg?w=260)

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The chemistry teacher turned meth kingpin (played by Bryan Cranston) was TV’s most talked-about antihero, luring 10.3 million viewers to Breaking Bad‘s series finale—up 442% from season four—and sparking thousands of Internet debates about the nuances of morality. And White’s (spoiler alert!) death did real-world good: a funeral event staged by fans raised $17,000 for the Albuquerque homeless.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: wurwolf on December 16, 2013, 01:53:18 PM
Another example, I don't believe that Hank's death is really Walt's fault at all. He definitely set in motion the events that led to it, but so many other people making poor decisions contributed to the escalation, something Walt was trying desperately to prevent. He was trying to make things right with both Hank and Jesse the entire season and was opening doors for both of them left and right. He even called off Jack and his thugs and gave himself up, and after that went south he tried to buy Hank's life. He was willing to part with his entire fortune if it saved Hank's life. However! However I will admit that this was the end result of most of Walt's crimes. It's kind of a conundrum, really. Did he cause Hank's death? I'm gonna say probably, but it wasn't just him.

Part of the problem with your argument is that you contradict yourself, as your first and last sentences in this paragraph did here. I don't think anyone is saying that everyone in the show is blameless except for Walt. Everyone in some way contributed to the downfall. But the show is pretty clear in saying that the lion's share of the blame is on Walt, and he pays a price for it at the end.

Also I am not sure where you get "Jane's death isn't Walt's fault". He knew what was going on and he stood there and made zero attempt to help her. You can argue his reasons for letting her die and that can be a valid argument, but the fact remains that by doing nothing he was most certainly to blame for her death. The show even makes a point of that, that this is the first civilian casualty in Walt's foray into the world of drug dealing. He's not the same man that started out in the show's beginning, and the audience is expected to not view him in the same way.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Sugar Ray Dodge on December 16, 2013, 02:36:05 PM
I don't see how it's contradictory. Walt actions alone did not cause Hank's death, so he isn't the only one to blame. I will, however, concede that "at all" in the first sentence isn't entirely accurate, but that's a stream of consciousness thing and I'll take the hit on that one, but I stand by my overall argument.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: wurwolf on December 26, 2013, 11:45:37 AM
Thought I'd share this review of "Ozymandius" by Alan Sepinwall. When the show first aired he had just undergone surgery and didn't feel that he'd done the episode justice in his review, so this particular review is round 2 for him.

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"WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU?!?! WE'RE A FAMILY!!!... We're a family." -Walter White

About seven seconds pass between the time Walter White screams the words "we're a family" and the time he whispers them, and they are an eternity. They are everything. Those seven seconds are what "Breaking Bad" has been building to for the previous 59 hours. They are every illusion Walter White has ever had about himself being shattered. They are the terrified faces of his wife and son as they huddle together on the floor, trying to wish him into the cornfield. They are all the bogus self-rationalizations he has told himself and others being dipped in acid until they are no longer identifiable by forensic science. They are Walter White finally, after so much time and so much sin, coming to terms with everything he has lost.

"Ozymandias" is the greatest hour "Breaking Bad" has ever given its audience. It is also the most terrible. It is unmerciful in what it does to Walt, what it does to Hank and Skyler and Flynn and Marie, and what it does to us.

http://www.hitfix.com/whats-alan-watching/breaking-bad-ozymandias-review-take-two

One thing I thought was interesting is that, at the end with some stray observations, Sepinwall points out that Walt nudges the mattress so that Jane, choking on her vomit, would roll onto her back. I didn't remember that (I thought Jane rolled of her own accord), so I'll have to review it at some point, but if it's true then it makes Walt's complicity in Jane's murder all the more heinous. I thought he just stood there and watched, but according to the review, he evidently took action as well.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: eegah on December 26, 2013, 02:28:55 PM
FYI: Breaking Bad complete series marathon starts tomorrow (Friday, Dec 27) at noon (ET) on AMC.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Johnny Unusual on January 27, 2014, 09:17:38 PM
Mike is back!

http://www.avclub.com/article/jonathan-banks-is-officially-part-of-the-breaking-107321

Bill Burr and Huell PLEASE!
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Sugar Ray Dodge on January 27, 2014, 10:04:50 PM
Mike is back!

http://www.avclub.com/article/jonathan-banks-is-officially-part-of-the-breaking-107321

Bill Burr and Huell PLEASE!

WOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Lembach on February 11, 2014, 01:15:07 AM
(http://i.minus.com/iH0O6QfZ5UOOh.jpg)
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Johnny Unusual on February 11, 2014, 06:04:49 PM
Skinner would have been a better choice.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: ShadowDog on February 13, 2014, 12:37:33 AM
Maybe. But Walter was considered such a good guy though. Not Flanders good but still ...
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Johnny Unusual on February 13, 2014, 02:46:04 AM
Yeah, but Walter was closer to being Skinner level pathetic at the start of the series.
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Johnny Unusual on March 01, 2014, 05:52:30 PM
http://www.avclub.com/article/aaron-paul-wants-be-better-call-saul-dean-norris-t-201659

Jesse Pinkman might return, via flashback!
Title: Re: Breaking bad, you watching it?
Post by: Sugar Ray Dodge on March 01, 2014, 07:10:37 PM
I think pretty much everybody from BB will show their faces at some point if the show is successful.