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RiffTrax Discussion => Suggest-a-Trax => Topic started by: mrbasehart on November 07, 2006, 06:14:01 PM
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Ok, here's the idea: Instead of numerous smaller requests for rifftrax, the forum come to a consensus over what film they would like riffed in the near future. Perhaps if a majority consesus were to reached, the mighty Nelson and Murphy may take heed. But how do we go about such a monumental task? How about...
The Ultimate Rifftrax Playoffs!?
Basically, through a series of polls, we match films against one another in terms of genre, era, or actor; the top choice goes through to the next round and so on and so forth, until we reach one movie...one final movie, standing high and proud declaring that it wants to utterly ruined by the riffmasters.
I think we can dismiss trax that have been hinted at by Mike and Kevin (e.g. Lord of the Rings, Coyote Ugly) as it seems we'll be getting those, so we can look at films that perhaps aren't being considered.
What do people think? It'll probably take most of the board to implement and agree with this, as I doubt 20 people deciding on a rifftrax won't carry too much weight.
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20 might be all you get my friend. However nice of a board this may be, that doesn't mean we agree. Also, this might take the wind out of the sails of the small requests. By narrowing it down to one sacrificial lamb to be riffed apart, the rest of the lambs will be left out.
Also, as I recall, there was once a great gathering of support for one director to be riffed. Back in the day, just about every forum member was in support of an Uwe Boll Rifftrax. There was not one post of dissent. So we sat and waited in hopes of having our dreams made true, until some one pointed out that Uwe Boll films don't fit in the Rifftrax criteria, they just weren't accessible enough.
What I'm trying to say is, be careful what you wish for, because you just might not get it. If you narrow it down to one movie but it's something Mike doesn't want to do, then you're arms are going to fall off from raising that lamb up to the sun all day.
That being said, I'll get behind a movie if it's one I would like to see riffed.
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That being said, I'll get behind a movie if it's one I would like to see riffed.
That's where you and I disagree. I would wholeheartedly support this concept. And even if the eventual decided upon film is something I personally don't care to see riffed, I would still get behind it because it would be the Roundtable's choice.
I hope MrBasehart follows through and puts together a tournament bracket and everything. How would we decide which films to put in the tourney?? Perhaps we let each member here pick one title, then whittle it down from there.
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That being said, I'll get behind a movie if it's one I would like to see riffed.
That's where you and I disagree. I would wholeheartedly support this concept. And even if the eventual decided upon film is something I personally don't care to see riffed, I would still get behind it because it would be the Roundtable's choice.
I hope MrBasehart follows through and puts together a tournament bracket and everything. How would we decide which films to put in the tourney?? Perhaps we let each member here pick one title, then whittle it down from there.
I don't think it's that line where we disagree. That is the line that said if the Riff Playoffs are implemented I would participate.
If each member gets to pick one movie, we'd have about 500 movies if you only count the members that have posted. That isn't realistic. I'm sure there is a better way.
At first I though a good way would be to just make one huge poll of all the movies mentioned, but that would be daunting. However, if you break it up by genre and theme are you doing anything more than what the polls on the front page do? The polls would have to be substantially different from the front page polls, but still manageable.
If a system can be developed it's not a bad idea, and it could work. But my fear is that everyone's votes are going to be wasted on something like Troll 2, something Mike will not riff. It seems very popular amongst some, so there's a good chance it will be chosen. And if it is, then all this polling and choosing and work will be for naught because it's not Rifftrax material.
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My first thoughts in how to proceed with choosing films that we nominate are to use films that Mike would consider. I think we all have a decent understanding of the guidelines the Mike is using at the moment. I think one giant poll represents too many immediate choices and so the winning film might really only get 3 or 4 votes. A series of polls would help the community refine its choice to something that perhaps would stand a reasonable chance of being riffed.
I think the only way to start with the polls is to first define some rules: i.e. That the films we choose are less than 30 years old; that the films are widely available on DVD to all regions, etc. If we're able to define our poll by the same guidelines that Mike seems to choose his, then I think we might able to make a good case for it's eventual riffing.
And hell, it might be fun! ;D
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I think the best way to do this, that would be all in fun of course, would be to get about 20 possible films and do like a basketball playoff chart with them. Like "What Lies Beneath Vs Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom" and then "Dirty Dancing" vs "Footloose" and then pit the winners of those 20 contests against each other to see who wins. This is what the original poster was getting at, I'm sure.
The winner may not end up being the cheesiest movie of all time but it would be the one the majority thought was. It would take some time this way but I think you'd get a better idea of the majority than if you listed all 20 films in a "poll." Besides, it would give the board something to discuss every week (the pros and cons of the two "riff off" contestants).
I think in this setup, genre doesn't really matter. You're going to have pick a winner in the end anyway so you might as well suck it up now. The mini-playoffs could be between genres (ie: 8 of the twenty films are comedies and you pit all those together and get a winner and then pit it against the drama winner) if you like, but I'd like to see an overall winner too. You could even run several mini-playoffs at the same time.
20 would take forever but you could do a more workable number. People do this with video game characters on GameSpot and it works (even though some people are passionate about their anime...scarily passionate). I guess 20 wouldn't be so bad if you ran a few simultaneously, now that I think about it.
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And hell, it might be fun! ;D
And thats the most important thing, it's just a bit of fun so why not try it... wouldn't do any harm... unless someone has an allergy to polls, of course
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AmandaGal has the right idea. We should set this up like a bracket tournament, having a poll for only two movies at a time. The work would be picking what movies to put up, but I think you could make a list from the other threads and go through them and pick the ones that you think should be included. I'll vote!
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If someone wanted to show REAL commitment, they could filter through the old movie suggestions thread and find out which movies were suggested most often and then stick those in the brackets. :^)
I, of course, have no such commitment, but I'd love to find out the results of this thing. :^)
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Playoff brackets make everything more fun. Hell, it's the only reason anyone gives a crap about college basketball.
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I'd vote! Sounds like a pretty fun idea.
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I think the best way to do this, that would be all in fun of course, would be to get about 20 possible films and do like a basketball playoff chart with them. Like "What Lies Beneath Vs Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom" and then "Dirty Dancing" vs "Footloose" and then pit the winners of those 20 contests against each other to see who wins. This is what the original poster was getting at, I'm sure.
Exactly. I was thinking perhaps more films at the beginning of the poll, but it might possibly become a bit unwieldy.
If someone wanted to show REAL commitment, they could filter through the old movie suggestions thread and find out which movies were suggested most often and then stick those in the brackets.
I will. Give me a day or so...
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If you need help, I can help but I'm not going to volunteer to go through the whole board by myself. I don't like you guys THAT much :)
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This is going to be an extremely long post.... ;D
I've gone through the entire old suggestions thread and made a count of the movies suggested. I've ignored people who said things like "the entire Steven Seagal filmography" 'cause that's just nuts and concentrated on people who've singled out movies that they'd like to be riffed. I even used a database sheet in Word and everything!
Oh, in case you didn't feel like counting, there are 516 movies in this list and the numbers that accompany them are the amount of times they were "voted" for. *deep breath*
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12 Monkeys
15 Minutes
Abraxas
Absolon
Abyss, The
Adventures of Robin Hood
A.I. 2
Akira
Alien vs Predator 2
Alone in the Dark
Along Came Polly
Always
American Flyers
American Ninja 2
American Tale, An
Amityville Horror (REMAKE) 2
Amityville Horror III
Anaconda 2
Andromeda Strain
Any Which Way But Loose
Apocalypse Now
Apple, The
Armageddon 7
Arrival
Avengers
Baby's Day Out
Barbarella
Basic Instinct 2
Basic Instinct 2
Basket Case
Batman (BURTON)
Batman: The Movie
Batman & Robin 14
Batman Begins
Batman Forever 2
Batman Returns
Battle Beyond the Stars
Battlefield Earth 9
Battle Royale
Beaches 2
Beastmaster 4
Beastmaster II
Bewitched
Beyond the Law
Beyond the Poseidon Adventure
Beyond the Valley of the Dolls
Big
Big Trouble in Little China 3
Blackbeard's Ghost
Bladerunner
Blair Witch Project, The 2
Bloodhook
Bloodrayne 4
Bloodsport 3
Blue Lagoon
Blues Brothers, The
Blue Thunder
Body Slam
Bonfire of the Vanities
Boy in the Plastic Bubble
Brainstorm
Bram Stoker's Dracula
Bridges of Madison County
Brothers Grimm, The
Buffy the Vampire Slayer
Bugsy Malone
Butterfly Effect
Cabin Fever 2
Cane Toads: A Natural History
Cannonball Run
Cannonball Run II
Cape Fear (NEW)
Capote 2
Caravan of Courage 2
Career Opportunities 2
Casablanca
Catwoman
Cave, The
Cell, The
Charlie's Angels
Charlie's Angels II
Citizen Kane 5
Cleopatra
Clerks 2
Cliffhanger
Clockwork Orange, A
Clones of Bruce Lee
Cobra
Commando 3
Conan The Barbarian 3
Congo
Conspiracy Theory
Cool as Ice
Contact 2
Core, The 5
Covenant
Craft, The
Crash
Creating Rem Lezar
Creepshow 2
Crocodile Hunter: Collision Course 4
Crossworlds
Crow, The : Wicked Prayer
Cutthroat Island
Damnation Alley
Daredevil 6
Dark City 2
Dark Crystal
Darkness Falls
Da Vinci Code, The
Dawn of the Dead (Original) 2
Day After Tomorrow, The 5
Day the Earth Stood Still, The
Days of Thunder
Dead Zone, The
Debbie Does Dallas
Deep Impact 2
Deep Blue Sea 2
Deliverance
Demolition Man
Demon Seed
Dennis the Menace
Devil's Advocate
Dick Tracy 4
Die Another Day 3
Dirty Dancing 3
Dollar for the Dead
Donnie Darko 3
Doom 3
Double Dragon 2
Dracula 3000
Dreamcatcher 2
Dreamscape 2
Driven 2
Duel in the Sun
Dune
Dungeons & Dragons 3
Eight Legged Freaks
Elektra 2
End of Days
English Patient, The
Equilibrium 2
Eraserhead
Escape from New York
E.T. 3
Event Horizon 2
Exit Wounds
Exorcist II
Face/Off
Fantastic Four
Fast and the Furious 4
Fear dot com
Femme Fatale
Few Good Men, A 2
Fight Club
Final Fantasy: Spirits Within
Firefox
Flashdance
Flash Gordon
Flight of the Navigator 3
Fog, The (NEW) 2
Footloose 2
Forrest Gump
For Whom the Bell Tolls
For You Height Only
Frankenfish
Frankenstein (DE NIRO)
Freddy vs Jason
Free Willy
Friday the 13th
Friday the 13th : Part III
Friday the 13th : Part VIII 2
From Dusk Till Dawn
From Justin to Kelly
Funny Lady
Future War
Gandhi
Gauntlet, The
Ghost in the Shell
Ghosts of Mars
Gigli 5
Gladiator 7
Glitter
Glen or Glenda? 2
Gnome Named Gnorm, A
Godfather, The
Godfather III 2
Godzilla (AMERICAN) 5
Godzilla vs Monster Zero
Gojira
Goldeneye
Gone with the Wind
Goonies, The
Gothika
Gymkata 2
Hackers 3
Halloween III: Season of the Witch
Hannibal
Harley Davidson & the Marlborough Man 2
Hellraiser
Highlander 2
Highlander II 2
Hobbit, The
Hollow Man
Hollywood Homicide
Hook
Hostage
Hours, The
House
House II
House of the Dead
Howard the Duck 2
Howl's Moving Castle
Hudson Hawk
Hulk, The 3
Ichi the Killer
I Know What You Did Last Summer
Imitation of Life
Incredibles, The
Incubus 2
Independence Day 8
Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom
Into the Blue 3
InuYasha: Affections Touching Across Time
Iron Eagle
Island, The
I Spit on Your Grave
It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad, World
It's a Wonderful Life
It's Pat!
Jackass: The Movie
Jason X 2
Jaws: The Revenge 3
Jeremiah Johnson
Jersey Girl
Jesus Christ: Vampire Hunter
Jingle All The Way 2
Johnny Mnemonic 4
Josie & the Pussycats
Joysticks
Judge Dredd 8
Jurassic Park 3
Jurassic Park II 4
Jurassic Park III 4
Karate Kid, The
Kart Racer 6
Killer Klowns from Outer Space
Kindergarten Cop 2
Knight's Tale, A
Knock-Off 2
Kull the Conqueror 2
Krull 2
Lady in the Water
Lair of the White Worm
Langoliers, The
Last Action Hero 3
Last Boy Scout, The
Last Dragon 3
Last House on the Left
Lathe of Heaven, The
Lawnmowerman
Legend 2
Leonard: Part 6
Leprechaun 2
Leprechaun: In the Hood
Live and Let Die
Living Daylights
Logan's Run 4
Lord of the Rings: Animated 5
Lost Boys, The 2
Lost in Space 5
Love Story 2
Mac and Me
Mad Max
Mad Max III: Beyond Thunderdome
Mannequin 4
Master of Disguise
Masters of the Universe 3
Matrix Revolutions 2
Maximum Overdrive 5
Mazes & Monsters
Mean Guns
Medallion, The
Meet Joe Black 2
Mighty Ducks, The
Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers 2
Minority Report 2
Mission Impossible 2
Mission Impossible 3
Mission to Mars 2
Mr & Mrs Smith
Mr Nanny
MST3K: The Movie 3
Monkey Shines 2
Moonraker
Most Wanted
Moulin Rouge
Mummy, The (NEW) 2
Mummy Returns, The
My Best Friend's Wedding
My Dinner with Andre
Never Ending Story
Never Ending Story III 2
Never Say Never Again
New Barbarians
Nightmare on Elm Street
Night of the Lepus
Ninja III: The Domination
No Contest
No Holds Barred 3
North 2
Notorious
Omega Code 2
Omega Doom
Omega Man 4
Orca
Out for Justice
Over the Top 3
Paint Your Wagon
Patch Adams
Patriot, The
Payback
Pearl Harbour 2
Pee-Wee's Big Adventure 3
People Under the Stairs, The
Perfect Storm, The
Peyton Place
Phantasm
Phantom, The
Phantom of the Opera (SCHUMACHER) 2
Phantoms
Phonebooth
Pirates of the Caribbean
Planes, Trains, & Automobiles
Planet of the Apes (HESTON) 2
Planet of the Apes (BURTON) 2
Planet of the Dinosaurs 2
Pocahontas
Police Academy 5: Assignment Miami Beach
Poltergeist 2
Pop Star
Postman, The 2
Powder
Predator 3
Pretty Woman
Pride & Prejudice
Prince of Darkness 4
Prince of Tides
Prophecy, The
Purple Rain 3
Quick and the Dead, The
Rabbit Test
Rad
Rambo
Ratboy
Rat Race
Red Dawn 6
Red Eye 2
Red Planet
Reign of Fire
Reptilicus
Resident Evil
Return of the Dragon
Return to Me
Revenge of the Nerds
Ring, The 2
Robin Hood: PoT 3
Robot Jox 3
Rock, The
Rock & Rule
Rocky 4 3
Rocky 5
Rocky Horror Picture Show
Rollerball (REMAKE) 4
Rosemary's Baby 3
Runaway
Running Man 3
Rush Hour
Rush Hour II
Saint, The 3
St. Elmo's Fire
Santa Claus: The Movie
Seabiscuit 2
Secret of My Success
Sidekicks
Siege of Firebase Gloria, The
Score, The
Screamers
Serenity
Shadow, The 2
Shaft (ORIGINAL)
Shakespeare in Love
Shanghai Knights
Shanghai Surprise 2
Shocker
Short Circuit II
Showgirls 3
Shriek If You Know What I Did Last Friday the 13th
Silence of the Lambs
Sin City
Sixth Day, The
Skeeter
Skidoo
Sky Captain & the World of Tomorrow 2
Slingblade
Smokey & the Bandit III
Snake Eyes
Snakes on a Plane
Sound of Thunder, A 2
Soylent Green
Space Camp
Spartacus
Spawn
Species
Speed 3
Speed 2 3
Spice World
Spider-Man
Stargate 2
Starship Troopers 3
Starship Troopers II
Star Trek: Insurrection
Star Trek: Generations
Star Trek: The Motion Picture 2
Star Wars: Attack of the Clones
Star Wars: Revenge of the Sith
Star Wars: Holiday Special 2
Steel Magnolias
Stone Cold
Stop! Or My Mom Will Shoot!
Streetfighter : The Movie 3
Striptease 2
Summer Place, A
Super Fuzz 3
Supergirl
Superman III 3
Superman IV 3
Superman Returns
Super Mario Bros 7
Surviving the Game
Swarm
Tango & Cash 5
Tank Girl
TMNT
Ten Commandments, The 2
Terminator
Terminator 2 2
Terminator 3 2
Texas Chainsaw Massacre: TNG 2
They Live! 2
Thing, The 2
Three Amigos, The
Three Ninjas
THX-1138 2
Ticker
Timecop 3
Timeline
Time Machine (REMAKE) 2
Titanic 2
Tomb Raider
Total Eclipse
Total Recall 6
Towering Inferno
Toys 2
Trainspotting 2
Transformers: The Movie
Traxx 2
Tremors 2
Troll
Troll 2 5
Tron 4
Troy 2
True Lies
Truman Show, The
Turbo: A Power Rangers Movie
Twister
Ultraviolet 2
Unforgiven
Universal Soldier
Urban Legends
Valentine
Vampire Assassin
Vampiyaz
Van Helsing 3
V for Vendetta
Village, The 2
Volcano 2
View to a Kill, A 4
Wall Street 2
WarGames 3
War of the Worlds (REMAKE) 2
Warriors, The 2
Waterworld 2
Waxworks 3
Waxworks II
Weird Science
What Lies Beneath
When a Man Loves a Woman
When a Stranger Calls (REMAKE) 2
Wild at Heart
Wild Wild West 4
Willow
Willy Wonka & the Chocolate Factory 4
Wing Commander
Witness
Wizard, The 4
Wizard of Oz, The 2
Wizards 2
Wrong Turn
Xanadu 3
X-Files, The Movie 7
X-Men 3 2
You Got Served
You've Got Mail
Zardoz 3
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Holy crap! Somebody buy this man a pint.
I notice a strong score for my very first suggestion - The X-Files Movie.
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Oh, and Batman & Robin had the most votes. ;D
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mrbasehart, you are dedicated. Well done. Now, we have to whittle down this list drastically. Like you said originally, only including movies made in the past 30 years that are readily available on DVD should chop this down some. But that's still a big list....
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Mrbaseheart, I nominate you with all my official power (That would be none at all) for fan of the month for putting this list together. :^)
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mrbasehart, you are dedicated. Well done. Now, we have to whittle down this list drastically. Like you said originally, only including movies made in the past 30 years that are readily available on DVD should chop this down some. But that's still a big list....
Okay. I've gone through the list, and removed films that have only been nominated once, that are inappropriate (in terms of age or subject matter) and that are not widely available on DVD. We have 163 movies left. :)
Shall I post the list?
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Once the final list of films is available, we can then break it down by genre, mabye. Then, the films in each genre can compete for top spot, then each genre can compete. This is turning out to be a fun game.
Well done, mrbasehart!!!
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I shall do all that I can to help. You have my sword. And my ax.
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I shall do all that I can to help. You have my sword. And my ax.
The Fellowship of the Roundtable? Or are we mixing myths...?
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I shall do all that I can to help. You have my sword. And my ax.
i got a Happy Hippo and half a bag of Quavers... not as impressive as a sword or ax, i know
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OK. Here's the amended list. Please make your case for any ones that should be struck off before we seriously start debating them.
A.I.
Alien vs Predator
American Ninja
Amityville Horror (REMAKE)
Anaconda
Armageddon
Batman & Robin
Batman Forever
Battlefield Earth
Beastmaster
Big Trouble in Little China
Blair Witch Project, The
Bloodrayne
Bloodsport
Cabin Fever
Capote
Caravan of Courage
Career Opportunities
Commando
Conan The Barbarian
Contact
Core, The
Daredevil
Dark City
Day After Tomorrow, The
Deep Impact
Deep Blue Sea
Dick Tracy
Die Another Day
Dirty Dancing
Donnie Darko
Doom
Double Dragon
Dreamcatcher
Dreamscape
Driven
Dungeons & Dragons
Elektra
Equilibrium
E.T.
Event Horizon
Fast and the Furious
Few Good Men, A
Flight of the Navigator
Fog, The (NEW)
Footloose
Friday the 13th : Part VIII
Gigli
Gladiator
Godfather III
Godzilla (AMERICAN)
Hackers
Harley Davidson & the Marlborough Man
Highlander
Highlander II
Howard the Duck
Hulk, The
Independence Day
Into the Blue
Jaws: The Revenge
Jingle All The Way
Johnny Mnemonic
Judge Dredd
Jurassic Park
Jurassic Park II
Jurassic Park III
Kindergarten Cop
Knock-Off
Kull the Conqueror
Krull
Last Action Hero
Last Dragon
Legend
Leprechaun
Logan's Run
Lord of the Rings: Animated
Lost Boys, The
Lost in Space
Mannequin
Masters of the Universe
Matrix Revolutions
Maximum Overdrive
Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers
Minority Report
Mission to Mars
Monkey Shines
Mummy, The (NEW)
Never Ending Story III
North
Omega Man
Pearl Harbour
Pee-Wee's Big Adventure
Phantom of the Opera (SCHUMACHER)
Planet of the Apes (HESTON)
Planet of the Apes (BURTON)
Poltergeist
Postman, The
Predator
Prince of Darkness
Purple Rain
Red Dawn
Red Eye
Ring, The
Robin Hood: PoT
Rocky 4
Rollerball (REMAKE)
Rosemary's Baby
Running Man
Saint, The
Seabiscuit
Shadow, The
Shanghai Surprise
Showgirls
Sky Captain & the World of Tomorrow
Sound of Thunder, A
Speed
Speed 2
Stargate
Starship Troopers
Star Trek: The Motion Picture
Streetfighter : The Movie
Super Fuzz
Superman III
Superman IV
Super Mario Bros
Tango & Cash
Terminator 2
Terminator 3
Texas Chainsaw Massacre: TNG
They Live!
Thing, The
THX-1138
Timecop
Time Machine (REMAKE)
Titanic
Total Recall
Toys
Trainspotting
Tremors
Troll 2
Tron
Troy
Ultraviolet
Van Helsing
Village, The
Volcano
View to a Kill, A
Wall Street
WarGames
War of the Worlds (REMAKE)
Warriors, The
Waterworld
Waxworks
When a Stranger Calls (REMAKE)
Wild Wild West
Willy Wonka & the Chocolate Factory
Wizard, The
Wizard of Oz, The
Wizards
Xanadu
X-Files, The Movie
X-Men 3
Zardoz
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Well, here are the ones that I think, for whatever reason, shouldn't get riffed (i.e. too good, too bad, too obscure, not enough interest, etc.):
American Ninja
Beastmaster
Big Trouble in Little China
Bloodrayne
Bloodsport
Cabin Fever
Capote
Caravan of Courage
Career Opportunities
Dark City
Donnie Darko
Equilibrium
Gigli - (not even Mike, Kevin, & Bill all together could make this one watchable)
Hackers
Harley Davidson & the Marlborough Man
Knock-Off
Kull the Conqueror
Krull
Logan's Run
Lord of the Rings: Animated (too long)
Mannequin
Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers
Mission to Mars (boring)
Monkey Shines
North
Omega Man
Pee-Wee's Big Adventure
Robin Hood: PoT
Saint, The
Sound of Thunder, A
Super Fuzz
Super Mario Bros (Ugh......)
Tango & Cash
THX-1138
Tremors
Troll 2 (Sorry, guys - it's hilariously terrible, but it's just not right for Rifftrax)
Wall Street
Wizard, The
Wizard of Oz, The
Wizards
Zardoz
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OK. Here's the amended list. Please make your case for any ones that should be struck off before we seriously start debating them.
Ok i just did a quick search using Play.Com so i'm not saying it;s right but as far as i can tell all these below titles aren't avaiable in Region 2. If someone knows otherwise please let me know and i'll amend the list but i recommened these be struck off due to us (Region 2 guys) not having access to them. It should be a fair and level playing field for all.
Beastmaster
Bloodrayne
Bloodsport
Career Opportunities
Dreamscape
Howard the Duck (think this is oop in Region 1 as well)
Kull the Conqueror
Logan's Run
Never Ending Story III
North
Pee-Wee's Big Adventure
Shanghai Surprise
Super Fuzz
Super Mario Bros
Wizard, The
Wizards
EDIT: Just went through each of the above titles in another region 2 website with no hits so looks like they are definatly not avaibale over here.
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OK. Here's the amended list. Please make your case for any ones that should be struck off before we seriously start debating them.
Ok i just did a quick search using Play.Com so i'm not saying it;s right but as far as i can tell all these below titles aren't avaiable in Region 2. If someone knows otherwise please let me know and i'll amend the list but i recommened these be struck off due to us (Region 2 guys) not having access to them. It should be a fair and level playing field for all.
EDIT: Just went through each of the above titles in another region 2 website with no hits so looks like they are definatly not avaibale over here.
That's a good start, I did see Shanghai Surprise recently on DVD (region 2) however. But if they're not showing on some websites, perhaps we can disclude them from the list as being too obscure.
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That's a good start, I did see Shanghai Surprise recently on DVD (region 2) however. But if they're not showing on some websites, perhaps we can disclude them from the list as being too obscure.
It was on Play but not for sale which leads me to believe it might be out of print.
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Anything else to whittle down the movies?
Remove the more obscure ones?
mrbasehart, how many you actually looking at getting it down to anyway?
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Anything else to whittle down the movies?
Remove the more obscure ones?
If I understand this right, you may want to consider a bracket system to eliminate movies by doing some head-to-head voting. This will cut the choices down to either 32 or 64. Here is what I believe should be on this list of 32 (feel free to add/subtract):
Armageddon
Batman & Robin
Battlefield Earth
Blair Witch Project, The
Deep Blue Sea
Dirty Dancing
Donnie Darko
Dungeons & Dragons
Fast and the Furious
Footloose
Gigli
Gladiator
Godzilla (AMERICAN)
Hackers
Independence Day
Jingle All The Way
Jurassic Park
Legend
Leprechaun
Lost Boys, The
Purple Rain
Red Dawn
Showgirls
Starship Troopers
Super Mario Bros
Titanic
Total Recall
Troll 2
Village, The
Waterworld
Wild Wild West
Willy Wonka & the Chocolate Factory
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The individual suggestions are good, but I don't want the list to represent one person's thinking, otherwise it's not a forum choice. I'll remove the OOP DVD's and see what we're left with.
OK. I've removed the OOP ones and we're left with 145 titles. Perhaps we should look at removing titles that are a bit too similar to previous rifftrax...?
Here's the amended list:
A.I.
Alien vs Predator
American Ninja
Amityville Horror (REMAKE)
Anaconda
Armageddon
Batman & Robin
Batman Forever
Battlefield Earth
Big Trouble in Little China
Blair Witch Project, The
Cabin Fever
Capote
Caravan of Courage
Commando
Conan The Barbarian
Contact
Core, The
Daredevil
Dark City
Day After Tomorrow, The
Deep Impact
Deep Blue Sea
Dick Tracy
Die Another Day
Dirty Dancing
Donnie Darko
Doom
Double Dragon
Dreamcatcher
Driven
Dungeons & Dragons
Elektra
Equilibrium
E.T.
Event Horizon
Fast and the Furious
Few Good Men, A
Flight of the Navigator
Fog, The (NEW)
Footloose
Friday the 13th : Part VIII
Gigli
Gladiator
Godfather III
Godzilla (AMERICAN)
Hackers
Harley Davidson & the Marlborough Man
Highlander
Highlander II
Hulk, The
Independence Day
Into the Blue
Jaws: The Revenge
Jingle All The Way
Johnny Mnemonic
Judge Dredd
Jurassic Park
Jurassic Park II
Jurassic Park III
Kindergarten Cop
Knock-Off
Krull
Last Action Hero
Last Dragon
Legend
Leprechaun
Lost Boys, The
Lost in Space
Mannequin
Masters of the Universe
Matrix Revolutions
Maximum Overdrive
Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers
Minority Report
Mission to Mars
Monkey Shines
Mummy, The (NEW)
Omega Man
Pearl Harbour
Phantom of the Opera (SCHUMACHER)
Planet of the Apes (HESTON)
Planet of the Apes (BURTON)
Poltergeist
Postman, The
Predator
Prince of Darkness
Purple Rain
Red Dawn
Red Eye
Ring, The
Robin Hood: PoT
Rocky 4
Rollerball (REMAKE)
Rosemary's Baby
Running Man
Saint, The
Seabiscuit
Shadow, The
Sky Captain & the World of Tomorrow
Sound of Thunder, A
Speed
Speed 2
Stargate
Starship Troopers
Star Trek: The Motion Picture
Streetfighter : The Movie
Superman III
Superman IV
Tango & Cash
Terminator 2
Terminator 3
Texas Chainsaw Massacre: TNG
They Live!
Thing, The
THX-1138
Timecop
Time Machine (REMAKE)
Titanic
Total Recall
Toys
Trainspotting
Tremors
Troll 2
Tron
Troy
Ultraviolet
Van Helsing
Village, The
Volcano
View to a Kill, A
Wall Street
WarGames
War of the Worlds (REMAKE)
Warriors, The
Waterworld
Waxworks
When a Stranger Calls (REMAKE)
Wild Wild West
Willy Wonka & the Chocolate Factory
Wizard of Oz, The
Xanadu
X-Files, The Movie
X-Men 3
Zardoz
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If they're similar to previous rifftrax, they've got the right ingredients. Maybe if we split them up by Genre, we can get some managable brackets going on...
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And by "we", you mean "you", don't you? ;D
*sigh* I'll add another column to my spreadsheet... ;)
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My list of 32 -
Anaconda
Armageddon
Batman & Robin
Battlefield Earth
Congo
Core, The
Daredevil
Deep Blue Sea
Dirty Dancing
Dungeons & Dragons
Elektra - (Never saw the movie and it probably sucks...but good commentary to a bad movie, combined w/Jennifer Garner in various stages of undress fighting idiotic villains sounds like fun to me)
Fast and the Furious
Footloose
Gigli
Godzilla (AMERICAN)
Highlander
Independence Day
Jingle All The Way
Jurassic Park
Leprechaun
Predator
Purple Rain
Red Dawn
Showgirls
Starship Troopers
Titanic
Total Recall
Troll 2
Village, The
Waterworld
Wild Wild West
Willy Wonka & the Chocolate Factory
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OK. I've played a bit loose with the genres so there's not tons to choose from, and here's what we have:
A.I. Science Fiction
Alien vs Predator Science Fiction
American Ninja Action
Amityville Horror (REMAKE) Horror
Anaconda Horror
Armageddon Action
Batman & Robin Action
Batman Forever Action
Battlefield Earth Science Fiction
Big Trouble in Little China Action
Blair Witch Project, The Horror
Cabin Fever Horror
Capote Drama
Caravan of Courage Science Fiction
Commando Action
Conan The Barbarian Action
Contact Science Fiction
Core, The Science Fiction
Daredevil Action
Dark City Science Fiction
Day After Tomorrow, The Action
Deep Impact Action
Deep Blue Sea Horror
Dick Tracy Film Noir
Die Another Day Action
Dirty Dancing Drama
Donnie Darko Drama
Doom Science Fiction
Double Dragon Action
Dreamcatcher Horror
Driven Action
Dungeons & Dragons Fantasy
Elektra Action
Equilibrium Science Fiction
E.T. Science Fiction
Event Horizon Horror
Fast and the Furious Action
Few Good Men, A Drama
Flight of the Navigator Science Fiction
Fog, The (NEW) Horror
Footloose Drama
Friday the 13th : Part VIII Horror
Gigli Comedy
Gladiator Epic
Godfather III Drama
Godzilla (AMERICAN) Action
Hackers Drama
Harley Davidson & the Marlborough Man Action
Highlander Fantasy
Highlander II Fantasy
Hulk, The Action
Independence Day Science Fiction
Into the Blue Action
Jaws: The Revenge Horror
Jingle All The Way Comedy
Johnny Mnemonic Science Fiction
Judge Dredd Science Fiction
Jurassic Park Science Fiction
Jurassic Park II Science Fiction
Jurassic Park III Science Fiction
Kindergarten Cop Comedy
Knock-Off Action
Krull Fantasy
Last Action Hero Action
Last Dragon Action
Legend Fantasy
Leprechaun Horror
Lost Boys, The Horror
Lost in Space Science Fiction
Mannequin Comedy
Masters of the Universe Fantasy
Matrix Revolutions Science Fiction
Maximum Overdrive Science Fiction
Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers Action
Minority Report Science Fiction
Mission to Mars Science Fiction
Monkey Shines Horror
Mummy, The (NEW) Action
Omega Man Science Fiction
Pearl Harbour Action
Phantom of the Opera (SCHUMACHER) Drama
Planet of the Apes (HESTON) Science Fiction
Planet of the Apes (BURTON) Science Fiction
Poltergeist Horror
Postman, The Science Fiction
Predator Science Fiction
Prince of Darkness Horror
Purple Rain Drama
Red Dawn Action
Red Eye Action
Ring, The Horror
Robin Hood: PoT Action
Rocky 4 Action
Rollerball (REMAKE) Science Fiction
Rosemary's Baby Horror
Running Man Science Fiction
Saint, The Action
Seabiscuit Drama
Shadow, The Action
Sky Captain & the World of Tomorrow Action
Sound of Thunder, A Action
Speed Action
Speed 2 Action
Stargate Science Fiction
Starship Troopers Science Fiction
Star Trek: The Motion Picture Science Fiction
Streetfighter : The Movie Action
Superman III Action
Superman IV Action
Tango & Cash Action
Terminator 2 Science Fiction
Terminator 3 Science Fiction
Texas Chainsaw Massacre: TNG Horror
They Live! Action
Thing, The Horror
THX-1138 Science Fiction
Timecop Science Fiction
Time Machine (REMAKE) Science Fiction
Titanic Drama
Total Recall Science Fiction
Toys Drama
Trainspotting Drama
Tremors Comedy
Troll 2 Horror
Tron Science Fiction
Troy Epic
Ultraviolet Science Fiction
Van Helsing Action
Village, The Horror
Volcano Action
View to a Kill, A Action
Wall Street Drama
WarGames Drama
War of the Worlds (REMAKE) Science Fiction
Warriors, The Action
Waterworld Science Fiction
Waxworks Horror
When a Stranger Calls (REMAKE) Horror
Wild Wild West Science Fiction
Willy Wonka & the Chocolate Factory Comedy
Wizard of Oz, The Drama
Xanadu Drama
X-Files, The Movie Action
X-Men 3 Action
Zardoz Science Fiction
The total list gives us:
44 Science Fiction movies.
46 Action movies.
23 Horror movies.
32 Other movies.
Does this help anyone? I'm thinking the easiest thing is to break things into tenuous groups (such as "superhero movies")and poll them before we start the bracketing.
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What would be really cool is if the Rifftrax folks gave us a list of 16 or 32 movies (movies they would be willing to do, but not necessarily something already scheduled), and then we do our little tournament with those titles. Than they could actually do the winning film. The first annual Rifftrax Roundtable Viewer's Choice Tournament!
What do you think, sirs?
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What would be really cool is if the Rifftrax folks gave us a list of 16 or 32 movies (movies they would be willing to do, but not necessarily something already scheduled), and then we do our little tournament with those titles. Than they could actually do the winning film. The first annual Rifftrax Roundtable Viewer's Choice Tournament!
What do you think, sirs?
That sounds like a most excellent idea. Completely solves the problem of possibly not wanting to do the movie. It will also be a much shorter list. I fully support this idea.
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Or, to keep things more open, we could have the Mods pick movies off our list that have no Snowball's chance in Hades (Keeping in mind that our selection is still never a guarantee. :^))
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What would be really cool is if the Rifftrax folks gave us a list of 16 or 32 movies (movies they would be willing to do, but not necessarily something already scheduled), and then we do our little tournament with those titles. Than they could actually do the winning film. The first annual Rifftrax Roundtable Viewer's Choice Tournament!
What do you think, sirs?
That sounds like a most excellent idea. Completely solves the problem of possibly not wanting to do the movie. It will also be a much shorter list. I fully support this idea.
I think the lists already compiled in this thread could be considered "nominated" films. Let the Rifftrax staff choose the 16 or 32 films for the tourney from that. I don't think it is beyond the realm of possibilty that Rifftrax would get behind this tournament by selecting the entry films and actually using the winning film for an upcoming Rifftrax.
The Fan of the Month says Make It So!
please.
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The only problem is that we'll have to wait quite a while for their picks. They will have to consult Mike and everyone else, which will take weeks. If we proceed with our fan made list it will get done faster, but we'll be unsure of its validity. I'm all for waiting it out, but if there are those who just can't wait, we might want to continue forward.
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The only problem is that we'll have to wait quite a while for their picks. They will have to consult Mike and everyone else, which will take weeks. If we proceed with our fan made list it will get done faster, but we'll be unsure of its validity. I'm all for waiting it out, but if there are those who just can't wait, we might want to continue forward.
I'm sure the mod's would be able to give us an answer tomorrow, meaning they should be able to tell us one way or the other if this is something they would want to do. It would be worth waiting a week or so for their picks, just to know that the winning film was a definite Rifftrax. If not, then the fantasy tourney would still be fun. And who knows, they might still be willing to do the winning pick.
I also like Pak's idea of asking the Mod's to help trim the master list of films they would never do. Assuming they don't want to just select a Top 16 or 32 for us to use.
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Logan's Run is unavailable in Region 2? I'm sure you're all very jealous of my copy.
"Fish! Plankton! Sea greens! Protein from the sea!"
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We should all be in the mindset that this bracket tournament would only be for fun. To get your hopes up that Mike would actually riff it would be a long shot. The mods would come up with their own tourney if this were a true possibility.
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We should all be in the mindset that this bracket tournament would only be for fun. To get your hopes up that Mike would actually riff it would be a long shot. The mods would come up with their own tourney if this were a true possibility.
Well, given the types of movies that have been done as Rifftrax and the level of most of the movies suggested and favored by this board. It would be likely that Mike would do our winning choice eventually anyway. Unless something unexpected wins, such as Troll 2 or Gandhi.
I was just suggesting a way to give this tourney a bit of legitimacy. It is, of course, completely up to the Rifftrax crew if they want to actually use the winning film as Rifftrax fodder.
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Looks like an awesome event being planned here. I say proceed with the tournament. Seeing how it plays out will be a good way to gauge interest in movies, but it'll also be really fun. Blender (I'll admit that it arrives at my house every month) is currently doing the same thing with bands, and while it's far stupider than this idea, it's still kind of fun to read.
That said, like all the polls, it could be a great way to gauge interest, but it still has a few problems that I think would keep it from being a foolproof way to pick the next movie. First of all, how do you make sure that voting is kept honest? Maybe submitting votes by just replying to a thread for each matchup? I'm not sure, but I think it would be relatively easy to vote many times for a poll, (not that anyone would be so desperate...actually, scratch that...) And then you still run into the risk that whatever wins turns out not to really work for a riffable movie, and there's no way we could pour through all the choices ahead of time to see what wouldn't work. Often what trips you up are the things you don't think about like a movie being too talky: you don't really notice until you look for it. We'd need a clause like in the Riff-Off where we can use all or part of the winners, but there's no real way to do that here.
That's my opinion. But I say to go with it. If we have a Cinderella story with an unexpected movie taking down some titans, it could call it to our attention in a way that posting "OMG TROLL 2!!!1111!!!" does not.
What do the rest of you think?
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That said, like all the polls, it could be a great way to gauge interest, but it still has a few problems that I think would keep it from being a foolproof way to pick the next movie. First of all, how do you make sure that voting is kept honest? Maybe submitting votes by just replying to a thread for each matchup? I'm not sure, but I think it would be relatively easy to vote many times for a poll, (not that anyone would be so desperate...actually, scratch that...) And then you still run into the risk that whatever wins turns out not to really work for a riffable movie, and there's no way we could pour through all the choices ahead of time to see what wouldn't work. Often what trips you up are the things you don't think about like a movie being too talky: you don't really notice until you look for it. We'd need a clause like in the Riff-Off where we can use all or part of the winners, but there's no real way to do that here.
What do the rest of you think?
You make some good points. Perhaps the best way when voting in the polls is to reply in the thread as well. We'll just have to take people's word that they've voted only once.
As for the choices that we select, and the reasons for and against why they should be selected, I think that's going to be more prominent if the list of films is severely reduced. I think the forum would consider it an honour if Mike decided to tackle a film that we've suggested, so I would hope that no one would try and ruin the event. I also think a concentrated look at the forum's tastes and the debate over whether certain films could be a viable rifftrax would be fun.
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You make some good points. Perhaps the best way when voting in the polls is to reply in the thread as well. We'll just have to take people's word that they've voted only once.
But you can set polls so they only accept one vote per user, so doesn't that sort out this problem?
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OK then, we have the official word from Rifftrax! Knock yourselves out and maybe, just maybe, the winning film will be considered for an upcoming Rifftrax. (Unless the winning film is Troll 2, then all bets are off.)
Personally I can't wait for this to start! I'd love to be able to vote on one of two films and post my reasons for my vote. Bring it on!!!!!
;D :D ;) :) 8) :-*
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My two cents worth...
I went through the last posted list and am suggesting some removals from the list with the reason being listed after. Only a few are for an opinion based reason, most are relative scarcity. Just throwing it out there. if they say 'hard to obtain?' that means I am unsure of their commonality but think they may be hard to get. Please correct if they are easy to get!
American Ninja Hard to obtain?
Big Trouble in Little China (While I love this movie and would love to see it riffed it has 2 problems in my eyes. Kind of hard to obtain and is already a comedy/satire might be hard to do.)
Blair Witch Perhaps not Mike's cup of tea. Chock full of F bombs and not much else.
Cabin Fever Not really up Mike's alley. Really gory (not that I mind that, but for normalized consumption)
Dick Tracy maybe hard to obtain. Not sure.
Donnie Darko Perhaps not the proper tone for a Rifftrax. Already a comedy, but of a very different type.
Double Dragon hard to obtain?
Dungeons and Dragons Even though I would love to see this one done, probably hard to obtain
Flight of the Navigator hard to obtain?
Harley Davidson and the Marlboro Man hard to obtain
Mannequin hard to obtain?
Maters of the Universe hard to obtain? I know Netflix has it cause it's already in my queue :)
Maximum Overdrive Again a great idea but hard to obtain I'd wager
Monkey Shines Ditto
Purple Rain hard to obtain?
Prince of Darkness one of my personal favs, but I know it's kinda scarce already
Streetfighter: The Movie hard to obtain?
Superman 3 and 4 Hard to obtain? Are these even avaliable on DVD outside that box set?
Texas Chainsaw: TNG hard to obtain. and hey, I was the first one to even suggest it I think
They Live! I LOVE THIS FILM! But I think it's a bit hard to obtain
Trainspotting wrong tone?
Wall Street hard to obtain?
Waxworks hard to obtain (another I like and suggested)
Xanadu hard to obtain?
Zardoz hard to obtain?
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Superman 3 and 4 Hard to obtain? Are these even avaliable on DVD outside that box set?
I believe these are being released seperatly at the same time as the box set
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Superman 3 and 4 Hard to obtain? Are these even avaliable on DVD outside that box set?
I believe these are being released seperatly at the same time as the box set
If they are going to be plentiful, then please leave them in play!
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American Ninja is in stock at Amazon. Featuring Michael Dudikoff and his abnormally large, disproportionately-sized fists, if the box art is any indication. Even better, American Ninja 2 (the greatest of the American Ninja saga, I think we'd all agree) is released on a DVD WITH American Ninja 3 for one low price!
I need to get a raise at work so I can start collecting movies like these.
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American Ninja is in stock at Amazon. Featuring Michael Dudikoff and his abnormally large, disproportionately-sized fists, if the box art is any indication. Even better, American Ninja 2 (the greatest of the American Ninja saga, I think we'd all agree) is released on a DVD WITH American Ninja 3 for one low price!
I need to get a raise at work so I can start collecting movies like these.
I found the American Ninja films (well the first 2) to be pretty good for saying thet were American 80's martial arts movie, a film type that generally didn't do well outside of the main guys like Van Damme, Seagal and Norris.
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American Ninja is in stock at Amazon. Featuring Michael Dudikoff and his abnormally large, disproportionately-sized fists, if the box art is any indication. Even better, American Ninja 2 (the greatest of the American Ninja saga, I think we'd all agree) is released on a DVD WITH American Ninja 3 for one low price!
I need to get a raise at work so I can start collecting movies like these.
I found the American Ninja films (well the first 2) to be pretty good for saying thet were American 80's martial arts movie, a film type that generally didn't do well outside of the main guys like Van Damme, Seagal and Norris.
Agreed. Both hugely enjoyable and hugely cheesy.
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I want to cast my vote for "Escape from the Planet of the Apes". This is the one where Cornelius and Zira come back to contemporary Earth and become celebrities. But then xenophobia sets in, they become fugitives, and Ricardo Montalbon (as circus-master "Armando") has to help them.
Rich, fertile ground, here...
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Superman 3 and 4 Hard to obtain? Are these even avaliable on DVD outside that box set?
I believe these are being released seperatly at the same time as the box set
They're also available in large quantities whervever used DVDs are sold. Can't imagine why...
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We can set polls to have a vote-per-person count as well as a time limit.
I think we could figure out a way to eliminate lots of the "problem movies" as has been discussed. The poll would definitely still need to be moderated. The best way to accomplish this, I think, is to have users submit a list of their top choices for movies to be riffed. Maybe, 5 a piece or so (or less?) to keep things somewhat concise. Then we can bring the master list to the people that need to see it, and we can eliminate any that are not doable based on criteria such as availability, mass appeal, bawdiness etc. The final list, maybe of around or near 10-15 movies, would then consist of all movies that are potential riffing candidates and the voting could then commence.
Let me know what you guys think, as I believe this would keep things somewhat orderly and prevent most problems that have been brought up. Discuss!
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We can set polls to have a vote-per-person count as well as a time limit.
I think we could figure out a way to eliminate lots of the "problem movies" as has been discussed. The poll would definitely still need to be moderated. The best way to accomplish this, I think, is to have users submit a list of their top choices for movies to be riffed. Maybe, 5 a piece or so (or less?) to keep things somewhat concise. Then we can bring the master list to the people that need to see it, and we can eliminate any that are not doable based on criteria such as availability, mass appeal, bawdiness etc. The final list, maybe of around or near 10-15 movies, would then consist of all movies that are potential riffing candidates and the voting could then commence.
Let me know what you guys think, as I believe this would keep things somewhat orderly and prevent most problems that have been brought up. Discuss!
I think that is great idea torgospizza. As you had said, 5 or less, I think is key. I think this could be a big success as long as it is all fairly orderly.
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What if we open up a post for one week for people to suggest one movie and one only that they'd like to see Riffed. Then have the Mods take a look and pluck out the no-gos. This should give us a healthy group of suggestions. To go bracket, we need a bracketable amount of candidates (16, 32, or 64 would work.) After we whiddle down the list we open up the voting, first with the 64 candidates, then with the 32, then the 16, the 8, the 4, and then the 2 winners, with the ultimate winner being our numero uno choice. :^) This would require a lot of posts for each competition (I'd reccomend 32, but we might only be able to break it down to 64.) and then each subcompetition afterward. Mayhaps the mods would be nice enough to make a board for the occasion solely for housing the tournaments?
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Boy, who thought Capote or Pee-Wee's Big Adventure would make a good rifftrax? Jesus. Making fun of Pee-Wee is like making fun of happiness and joy and Capote is almost the saddest movie ever made, and based on crap that actually happened. Even if you didn't like the movie it would be pretty damn insensitive to do it. If he did Capote then he would have to top that by doing The Killing Fields, Hotel Rwanda, and United 93 while he was at it.
Oh and also Trainspotting is a pretty sad movie too and shouldn't be on the list. No movies with dead baby scenes please.
Um, so in other words, don't do these movies.
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We can set polls to have a vote-per-person count as well as a time limit.
I think we could figure out a way to eliminate lots of the "problem movies" as has been discussed. The poll would definitely still need to be moderated. The best way to accomplish this, I think, is to have users submit a list of their top choices for movies to be riffed. Maybe, 5 a piece or so (or less?) to keep things somewhat concise. Then we can bring the master list to the people that need to see it, and we can eliminate any that are not doable based on criteria such as availability, mass appeal, bawdiness etc. The final list, maybe of around or near 10-15 movies, would then consist of all movies that are potential riffing candidates and the voting could then commence.
Let me know what you guys think, as I believe this would keep things somewhat orderly and prevent most problems that have been brought up. Discuss!
Aha! I knew it would be possible to go in this direction! 5 picks may be too many, but 1 would be too few (there is bound to be lots of duplication). How about each person submits 3 choices? Then the powers that be can whittle the list down to 32 or 64 titles. When you say the polls would have to be moderated, does that mean that you would open and close the polls? And would you have two films voted on at a time in each poll, or something like 4 films with the top two advancing to the next round?? Also each poll will allow for us to debate the pros and cons of riffing each particular film.
I have to think about what films i would nominate. Whatever happens, this will be a fun way to pass the time until the next Rifftrax! By the way, when is that next Rifftrax coming?? ;D
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I think we're on to something with Ghost in the Shell. Not only does this film have the same problems that the Matrix had that made it so susceptible to being riffed (Taking itself too seriously, lots of techno mumbo jumbo), but there are a lot of scenes that are slow and dull that can provide lots of riffing time.
I would LOVE to see them riff it's sequal, innocence. That film is so bad I don't even label it as a film because nothing happens in it.
And besides, wouldn't it be awsome to have cover artwork that featured Mike and his gang in anime form?
And these titles aren't hard to find either. Manga just released an anniversary edition, and Dreamworks still has Innocence on their list.
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Um, so in other words, don't do these movies.
I'm pretty sure you wouldn't have to worry about those movies being riffed, ever.
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I think we're on to something with Ghost in the Shell. Not only does this film have the same problems that the Matrix had that made it so susceptible to being riffed (Taking itself too seriously, lots of techno mumbo jumbo), but there are a lot of scenes that are slow and dull that can provide lots of riffing time.
I would LOVE to see them riff it's sequal, innocence. That film is so bad I don't even label it as a film because nothing happens in it.
And besides, wouldn't it be awsome to have cover artwork that featured Mike and his gang in anime form?
And these titles aren't hard to find either. Manga just released an anniversary edition, and Dreamworks still has Innocence on their list.
Mike won't watch anime, I think it'll get scratched off once they present the list to Mike.
The Playoffs are starting to take a great shape though. We'll have to sort out a bunch of rules for the polls, but first we need to start taking suggestions. I feel three movies per person is a good amount. Anyone want to take up the position of suggestion taker?
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I agree that 3 movies is the number we should go with.
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I second the "three" motion...thus fulfilling my evil plan of TURNING THE NUMBER THREE INTO TWO!!!!!!!!!!!! BWAH-HAH-HAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(Note: That was a joke. It doesn't mean I want the submission to only be two movies. I want it to be three).
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Just so I'm clear: We'll each get to nominate three different films, which initially will be polled, and then placed into a head-to-head playoff of possibly 32 titles?
Sounds good to me. ;D
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I would say, hold off on "appointing" anyone officially at this point. Since it's the weekend and it looks like I'm the only one moderating at the moment, we will need to convene on our end and sort things out to make it as smooth as possible - if it were to even happen. Again I'm not sure on the official word on anything since this was a fanmade idea, and a great one at that. But of course there are people we need to clear it with (including the Riffmaster himself). Once we have the go-ahead, we will let you know the system we have devised to make everything easy and clear from the get-go.
it is definitely a great idea and something I would fully support. However let's not get ahead of ourselves - give us until at least end of the day Monday to figure something out for you guys, and get the final word out to you all.
Erik
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Oh? So we have official sponsorship now? Cool. I apologize, I was still under the impression that we were expected to run this independently and wanted to get it rolling.
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Man I cant believe I missed the beginnings of this thread. It's a great idea really. As a fan of sports and the especially college basketball this could be so much fun.
Frankly I think the best way to do it is to split them into genres like you have all done, aim for each genre to have a equal amount of movies.
Start the playoffs by having the genre movies go against each other then each have a winner that goes to the final four...it looks like we have Action, Scifi, Horror and Other.
That gives us a great balance imo.
So the winner of Action goes agains the Winner of Horror and the winner of Scifi goes against Other.
Pretty simple really. I am really looking forward to this. Should be great.
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Oh? So we have official sponsorship now? Cool. I apologize, I was still under the impression that we were expected to run this independently and wanted to get it rolling.
I'm not sure how much official it really is.. but just keep in mind that it is up to our discretion which movies make it. So, at some point, there will need to be at least SOME level of moderation from us. I think the general nuts and bolts will be done by you guys, and we might peek in to throw you guys off (which is what we do best).
But like I said the end result will have to get filtered through to us anyways; which means our presence will be required during at least some stages of the process. "Official sponsorship," not really. More like "We'll make sure it goes the way we want it to smoothly and fairly!" :)
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The first bit of narrowing down should be movies that are hard to find.
Just take a look at the list of movies in the Rifftrax catalog. I don't believe any of them could seriously be considered "hard to find". Most of them were big box-office money makers, as well as very popular movies. But movies like Krull, Last Dragon, Masters of the Universe and Zardoz are not something you can just waltz in to your local Best Buy and find on the shelves.
After removing the harder to find titles, we could then start breaking up the list into genres, and starting the voting process on each based on it's type.
I think that would make this process easier.
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The first bit of narrowing down should be movies that are hard to find.
Just take a look at the list of movies in the Rifftrax catalog. I don't believe any of them could seriously be considered "hard to find". Most of them were big box-office money makers, as well as very popular movies. But movies like Krull, Last Dragon, Masters of the Universe and Zardoz are not something you can just waltz in to your local Best Buy and find on the shelves.
After removing the harder to find titles, we could then start breaking up the list into genres, and starting the voting process on each based on it's type.
I think that would make this process easier.
All 4 of the movies you mentioned are currently in stock at Amazon for around $10 each. And I couldn't find Crossroads at any of the retail stores I usually shop at either. So I eventually just rented it, but could have just as easily bought it off of Amazon.
If anything, the four movies you listed may be eliminated by the Rifftrax staff just because they would be a bit too obscure and wouldn't sell as well as a more mainstream movie.
If the whole Rifftrax sponsored thing doesn't pan out, then I like the idea of doing a super tourney divided up into genres. How about 8 genres with 32 movies each? That would be 8 different tourneys with the 8 winners advancing to an 8 film final tourney, with the winner being chosen as the 2006 Roundtable Most Wanted Rifftrax! Actually it might be hard coming up with 8 genres. So maybe 4 genres with 64 films each, then when we reach the top 16 in each genre then we mix all those films up into an overall top 64 tourney.
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In the spirit of the 'three wishes' idea here are my 3 (already hopefully pre-whittled for availability, tone and leaving out the obvious like LOTR, Batman and Robin...stuff EVERYONE wants to see etc...)
Armageddon
Red Dawn
X Files Movie
Pie in the Sky wish? Dawn of the Dead (original especially!)
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In the spirit of the 'three wishes' idea here are my 3 (already hopefully pre-whittled for availability, tone and leaving out the obvious like LOTR, Batman and Robin...stuff EVERYONE wants to see etc...)
Armageddon
Red Dawn
X Files Movie
Pie in the Sky wish? Dawn of the Dead (original especially!)
Same here. (Damn. I hate not having anything original to say).
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The first bit of narrowing down should be movies that are hard to find.
Just take a look at the list of movies in the Rifftrax catalog. I don't believe any of them could seriously be considered "hard to find". Most of them were big box-office money makers, as well as very popular movies. But movies like Krull, Last Dragon, Masters of the Universe and Zardoz are not something you can just waltz in to your local Best Buy and find on the shelves.
After removing the harder to find titles, we could then start breaking up the list into genres, and starting the voting process on each based on it's type.
I think that would make this process easier.
All 4 of the movies you mentioned are currently in stock at Amazon for around $10 each. And I couldn't find Crossroads at any of the retail stores I usually shop at either. So I eventually just rented it, but could have just as easily bought it off of Amazon.
If anything, the four movies you listed may be eliminated by the Rifftrax staff just because they would be a bit too obscure and wouldn't sell as well as a more mainstream movie.
If the whole Rifftrax sponsored thing doesn't pan out, then I like the idea of doing a super tourney divided up into genres. How about 8 genres with 32 movies each? That would be 8 different tourneys with the 8 winners advancing to an 8 film final tourney, with the winner being chosen as the 2006 Roundtable Most Wanted Rifftrax! Actually it might be hard coming up with 8 genres. So maybe 4 genres with 64 films each, then when we reach the top 16 in each genre then we mix all those films up into an overall top 64 tourney.
I was envisioning the idea of more "mainstream" movies, as opposed to just being hard to find, which is basically the difference between MST3K and Rifftrax. Obscurity vs. Mainstream...
I like your idea of the super tourney by genre.
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Holy crap this is getting complicated. I'm starting to get a little lost as to how this could all work with so many catagories. Personally, I think it would be better as just top votes with genre ignored.
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Holy crap this is getting complicated. I'm starting to get a little lost as to how this could all work with so many catagories. Personally, I think it would be better as just top votes with genre ignored.
Agreed. Doing separate tourneys by genre would over-complicate this. Movie versus movie sounds like it would be easier to do.
So, let me get this straight. As of now, it seems like there will be a thread created where we each put down 3 movies we want to see riffed, and the top movies nominated (32 or whatever number is decided) are put into polls versus each other bracket-style.
Sounds great!
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I love this idea, but if we could get one of the moderators to conjure up a bracket, it would eliminate any debate on what should/shouldn't be on the list.
32 would be great, but 16 would also be just as good.
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Let's remember that it was just a fun idea kind of thing to begin with. I doubt they (the mods) will make us playoff brackets and give us lists to choose from. That's what they want from us is a short list and to see what has the most interest from the forum trolling fans. And it is more of a 'we want to give it to them' than a 'they asked us for it.'
This one will be up to us, TorgosPizza was just trying to see if there was anyway to get any blessing on the end result as being seriously considered as an upcoming Trax. Even without that 'official sanction' we should just make up a list, start voting and see where it takes us. It is supposed to be engaging and fun!
I say why not take the shortened version of the 'long list' and just break it into pieces. Then the winners from each piece move on etc...
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Exactly... if everyone here wants to create something like this, even if it's just for fun and to challenge yourself, by all means. Just keep in mind we may or may not use your suggestion(s) - unless it's sanctioned by us. If you all come up with a great way of doing it, then maybe it's something we can consider as a future contest, that would be official "RiffTrax Most Wanted" or something.
Give it a shot and we'll keep an eye on things to see how it goes!
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Okay. Here's what I propose, we have 145 movies on the list. We do 12 polls, with 12 movies on each (13 on the last), the movies will be selected completely at random and the top three entries on each poll will enter the playoffs, giving us 36 movies to give us our tournament. The first round of polls are our playoffs, but the 36 movies are the playoff finals. ;D
And coming straight here, I didn't notice Jonny's polls. Which are exactly what I've just written!
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Okay. Here's what I propose, we have 145 movies on the list. We do 12 polls, with 12 movies on each (13 on the last), the movies will be selected completely at random and the top three entries on each poll will enter the playoffs, giving us 36 movies to give us our tournament. The first round of polls are our playoffs, but the 36 movies are the playoff finals. ;D
And coming straight here, I didn't notice Jonny's polls. Which are exactly what I've just written!
I think there should be a new nomination phase. The three films I would have nominated are not on the existing lists. I'm sure there are others that would like to make sure their films got a chance in the poll.
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Well then , we need a new OFFICIAL PLAYOFF NOMINATIONS THREAD!
Starting one now...
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Mike won't watch anime,
Huh? What's wrong with the anime titles? Aren't they movies too? But more importantly, is there anything else he won't watch?
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For practicality's sake I would steer clear of the following due to comments made in interviews etc...
Anime
Extremely Violent Movies (like ultra splatter flicks...)
Movies with a lot of nudity, sex
Movies chock full of F bombs and such (why nominating Pulp Fiction is likely never to really go anywhere)
Movies that are really hard to find on DVD (like old Out of Print items, Star Wars Holiday Special etc...)
(ties in the above one) movies that are very obscure , such as I would love to see Superfuzz but it's very hard to find on DVD and pretty damn obscure.
But please head over to the nomination thread going and nominate away! http://rifftrax.com/smf/index.php?topic=830.0