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Title: Death wish 5
Post by: Zardoz! on January 20, 2008, 08:46:21 AM
I caught this steamer on AMC and had to ask myself "Are they fucking kidding?!"

Seriously, I wondered if the makers were deliberately parodying the whole "deathwish" franchise at that point, with bronson running around with a .50 calibur browning which he was hip firing and  holding the barrel of barehanded. (No, I'm not kidding) and culminating in his firing a LAW rocker inside a room, virtually up against a wall and not killing himself with the backblast.

Christ, I've seen more belivable combat scenes in REALLY bad anime....

As much as I like the original deathwish movie, I think this intentional or unintentional parody of it should be riffed back to the stone age.
Title: Re: Death wish 5
Post by: Doctor Who? on January 20, 2008, 06:36:01 PM
Uh,that was Death Wish 3.

I saw it and death Wish 5 on AMC too and i have to say I think this whole series would make for great riffing.
Title: Re: Death wish 5
Post by: Zardoz! on January 20, 2008, 06:39:45 PM
Uh,that was Death Wish 3.

I saw it and death Wish 5 on AMC too and i have to say I think this whole series would make for great riffing.

The first two were OK, asfter that, especially if you're right about DW3 being the one with the machine guns and LAW launcher, it's riffin' time!
Title: Re: Death wish 5
Post by: Doctor Who? on January 20, 2008, 06:47:41 PM
Yeah it was death Wish 3.

My dad,brother and I watched the whole thing while making our own Riffs.

It was a very fun night.

I have not seen the first two but now i will have to rent them.

Death Wish 5 is even funnier.

It has an exploding soccer ball.
Title: Re: Death wish 5
Post by: kodiakthejuggler on January 20, 2008, 07:15:04 PM
Bronson: "I wish I was dead. Oy."

Gotta love The Simpsons.
Title: Re: Death wish 5
Post by: Zardoz! on January 20, 2008, 08:50:34 PM
Yeah it was death Wish 3.

My dad,brother and I watched the whole thing while making our own Riffs.

It was a very fun night.

I have not seen the first two but now i will have to rent them.

Death Wish 5 is even funnier.

It has an exploding soccer ball.

Well, if you haven't seen it, the first DW movie was actually quite good and believable. It was made at a time when criminals definitely seemed to have more rights than victims or law abiding citizens and the legal system seemed to just be letting them go over and over while the victimized more and more people.

Bronson's character's wife and daughter were raped and murdered by a gang of criminals, and the police more or less shrugged. He went out looking for revenge on criminals, becoming a somewhat suicidal vigilante looking to get attacked by criminals so he could kill them.

Some people call the movie "RACIST!!!" because of the criminals portrayed, but I just sneer or yawn at them, and snidely refer them to crime statistics which show the criminals were portrayed quite realistically and if they have a problem with it, to take it up with reality.

All in all the first DW movie was something of a minor classic and had such appeal because so many people identified with the victim of  criminals and an ineffective legal system taking action on his own.
Title: Re: Death wish 5
Post by: Doctor Who? on January 21, 2008, 08:41:06 AM
Sounds a bit like Dirty Harry,and i love Dirty Harry.

I will am going to put that at the top of my Netflix Q.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Death wish 5
Post by: Bob on January 21, 2008, 09:16:31 AM
Yeah it was death Wish 3.

My dad,brother and I watched the whole thing while making our own Riffs.

It was a very fun night.

I have not seen the first two but now i will have to rent them.

Death Wish 5 is even funnier.

It has an exploding soccer ball.

Well, if you haven't seen it, the first DW movie was actually quite good and believable. It was made at a time when criminals definitely seemed to have more rights than victims or law abiding citizens and the legal system seemed to just be letting them go over and over while the victimized more and more people.

Bronson's character's wife and daughter were raped and murdered by a gang of criminals, and the police more or less shrugged. He went out looking for revenge on criminals, becoming a somewhat suicidal vigilante looking to get attacked by criminals so he could kill them.

Some people call the movie "RACIST!!!" because of the criminals portrayed, but I just sneer or yawn at them, and snidely refer them to crime statistics which show the criminals were portrayed quite realistically and if they have a problem with it, to take it up with reality.

All in all the first DW movie was something of a minor classic and had such appeal because so many people identified with the victim of  criminals and an ineffective legal system taking action on his own.

Very good mini-review.
Title: Re: Death wish 5
Post by: Zardoz! on January 21, 2008, 02:46:38 PM
Sounds a bit like Dirty Harry,and i love Dirty Harry.

I will am going to put that at the top of my Netflix Q.

Thanks.

Oh! Well, if you liked "dirty harry: you are gonna absolutely LOVE death wish 1. I'm just sorry you saw the later versions so that your enjoyment of the original will be spoiled by knowing how tragically it will degenerate into utter idiocy....
Title: Re: Death wish 5
Post by: Zardoz! on January 21, 2008, 02:47:11 PM
Yeah it was death Wish 3.

My dad,brother and I watched the whole thing while making our own Riffs.

It was a very fun night.

I have not seen the first two but now i will have to rent them.

Death Wish 5 is even funnier.

It has an exploding soccer ball.

Well, if you haven't seen it, the first DW movie was actually quite good and believable. It was made at a time when criminals definitely seemed to have more rights than victims or law abiding citizens and the legal system seemed to just be letting them go over and over while the victimized more and more people.

Bronson's character's wife and daughter were raped and murdered by a gang of criminals, and the police more or less shrugged. He went out looking for revenge on criminals, becoming a somewhat suicidal vigilante looking to get attacked by criminals so he could kill them.

Some people call the movie "RACIST!!!" because of the criminals portrayed, but I just sneer or yawn at them, and snidely refer them to crime statistics which show the criminals were portrayed quite realistically and if they have a problem with it, to take it up with reality.

All in all the first DW movie was something of a minor classic and had such appeal because so many people identified with the victim of  criminals and an ineffective legal system taking action on his own.

Very good mini-review.

Thank you!
Title: Re: Death wish 5
Post by: Doctor Who? on January 21, 2008, 03:59:16 PM
Sounds a bit like Dirty Harry,and i love Dirty Harry.

I will am going to put that at the top of my Netflix Q.

Thanks.

Oh! Well, if you liked "dirty harry: you are gonna absolutely LOVE death wish 1. I'm just sorry you saw the later versions so that your enjoyment of the original will be spoiled by knowing how tragically it will degenerate into utter idiocy....

Don't worry about that.

You are talking to someone who saw Star Trek 5 before Star Trek 2.

I can enjoy anything on it's own,even if it did become crummy later on.

At least Death Wish 3 was fun to watch,that is more then i can say for a lot of bad movies.

Also the producers of the last 3 Death wish movies produced Superman 4.  So they are repeat francise destroyers.
Title: Re: Death wish 5
Post by: Zardoz! on January 21, 2008, 06:26:01 PM
Well, let me know what you think of the original masterpiece when you get to see it.

Sounds a bit like Dirty Harry,and i love Dirty Harry.

I will am going to put that at the top of my Netflix Q.

Thanks.

Oh! Well, if you liked "dirty harry: you are gonna absolutely LOVE death wish 1. I'm just sorry you saw the later versions so that your enjoyment of the original will be spoiled by knowing how tragically it will degenerate into utter idiocy....

Don't worry about that.

You are talking to someone who saw Star Trek 5 before Star Trek 2.

I can enjoy anything on it's own,even if it did become crummy later on.

At least Death Wish 3 was fun to watch,that is more then i can say for a lot of bad movies.

Also the producers of the last 3 Death wish movies produced Superman 4.  So they are repeat francise destroyers.
Title: Re: Death wish 5
Post by: Doctor Who? on January 21, 2008, 08:13:28 PM
I will.

It should be at my house by thursday.

Stupid no mail holidays.
Title: Re: Death wish 5
Post by: Doctor Who? on January 25, 2008, 01:27:40 PM
Well i watched Death Wish last night and I have to say it is one of the best 70s action movies ever.

This movie rides on Charles Bronson and he does a great of turning from someone who you would never think would do to something like this to being a cold blooded killer.

This may be the best acting he ever did.

I love the way this movie takes it's time building up.  Unlike other revenge movies it takes a long time for him to decide to do what he does and by the time he gets there you can believe a normal person would do that.

That's another great thing about this movie,at no point does he come off as a action hero he is just a normal person trying to cope with how insane things have become.

Also the last half hour of this movie when the cops are closing in is one of the most intense ever put to film.

I love the way this movie has you both rooting for him and against him at the same time.  On the one hand you don't want him to get caught,but on the other you don't like seeing him go from someone who gets sick from shooting a guy once in self defence to someone who shoots a man three times while he is on the ground you want him to stop.

This is one of the top five action movies of all time IMHO.

10/10.

Thanks Zardoz!
Title: Re: Death wish 5
Post by: Bob on January 25, 2008, 05:15:22 PM
Hmmm, I remember liking it when I saw it awhile back......... to add to the top of my netflix queue.
Title: Re: Death wish 5
Post by: Zardoz! on January 25, 2008, 07:35:12 PM
Well i watched Death Wish last night and I have to say it is one of the best 70s action movies ever.

This movie rides on Charles Bronson and he does a great of turning from someone who you would never think would do to something like this to being a cold blooded killer.

This may be the best acting he ever did.

I love the way this movie takes it's time building up.  Unlike other revenge movies it takes a long time for him to decide to do what he does and by the time he gets there you can believe a normal person would do that.

That's another great thing about this movie,at no point does he come off as a action hero he is just a normal person trying to cope with how insane things have become.

Also the last half hour of this movie when the cops are closing in is one of the most intense ever put to film.

I love the way this movie has you both rooting for him and against him at the same time.  On the one hand you don't want him to get caught,but on the other you don't like seeing him go from someone who gets sick from shooting a guy once in self defence to someone who shoots a man three times while he is on the ground you want him to stop.

This is one of the top five action movies of all time IMHO.

10/10.

Thanks Zardoz!

My pleasure.
Title: Re: Death wish 5
Post by: Rotten on January 25, 2008, 10:04:04 PM
Haha, you watched that one too this weekend? That was Death Wish 3, with Martin Balsam and some other 70's famous people. I loved the "gang" with the stupid facepaint.
Title: Re: Death wish 5
Post by: Zardoz! on January 25, 2008, 11:00:01 PM
Haha, you watched that one too this weekend? That was Death Wish 3, with Martin Balsam and some other 70's famous people. I loved the "gang" with the stupid facepaint.

I assumed it had to be DW5 as series tend to get worse over time and I could not imagine anything being worse than DW3...
Title: Re: Death wish 5
Post by: Doctor Who? on January 26, 2008, 12:32:10 PM
Oh it gets worse.

By death Wish 5 Bronson is setting people on fire with remote control soccer balls.

If Mike and the gang would Riff at least one of the Death Wish sequels it would make it all worth it.
Title: Re: Death wish 5
Post by: Zardoz! on January 26, 2008, 08:18:30 PM
Oh it gets worse.

By death Wish 5 Bronson is setting people on fire with remote control soccer balls.

If Mike and the gang would Riff at least one of the Death Wish sequels it would make it all worth it.


As bad as DW3 was, and given that series tend to get worse over time, the thought of how bad DW4 and 5 must be actually horrifies me....
Title: Re: Death wish 5
Post by: Doctor Who? on January 26, 2008, 08:23:14 PM
Well i haven't seen 4,but five is very funny.

Yes it is kind of hartbreaking now that I have seen the first one,but it is still worth seeing becouse it is one of the funnest movies ever made.

It's kind of like watching Superman 4.

Yes you are sad,but you are laughing too hard at most of the movie to notice.
Title: Re: Death wish 5
Post by: aneel on May 01, 2008, 08:21:07 PM
Unfortunately Golan-Globus ruined the Death Wish franchise, which really should have ended after Death Wish.

The first movie was awesome. My favorite part has to be when Bronson encounters the muggers on the subway.  The scene is so raw and minimal that it is also scary, especially when his character shoots the muggers several times, even when they are clearly incapacitated.

The subsequent films really ruined it, turning his character into a generic action hero who uses more ridiculous weapons against the more typical sinister "bad guys."
Title: Re: Death wish 5
Post by: TheHumanDuplicator on May 08, 2008, 05:41:50 PM
y7es definetly death wish 5!!