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Title: Heckling
Post by: daltysmilth on November 01, 2006, 10:00:22 PM
Okay, admit it.  Who here pays to see bad movies either at the theatre or from a movie rental place for the express purpose of making fun of them with your friends?  Who here buys movies they know are total trash because they know it will make them laugh?

I will admit to all of these things freely.  My friends and I will occasionally go out to Blockbuster for the express purpose of seeking out and renting the worst movie we can possibly find just to make fun of it.  It's not that hard.  The clerks sometimes even help us.  One clerk suggested that the seventh sequel of anything is always a winner.  And we've almost been kicked out of theatres a few times for being so obnoxious.  (Though seriously, who on earth goes to see Megido thinking they're going to see a good movie?)  And yes, I admit, I've knowingly bought movies I know are terrible, like the Robert Englund version of Phantom Of The Opera.  (Which, I believe, contains the first onscreen performance of one Molly Shannon, yes that's right, THAT Molly Shannon.)  So who else does this?  Anyone?  Hello? 

(Crickets chirping.)

Title: Re: Heckling
Post by: David on November 02, 2006, 04:31:14 AM
Of course. But only when I was in college and the whole dorm could get in on it. I can't see myself doing this alone...

And we know a certain celebrity/celebrities who made a career out of it.
Title: Re: Heckling
Post by: Sharktopus on November 02, 2006, 04:50:07 AM
Oh yeah. If you don't heckle bad movies, the Terrorists win.

My really long Eyes Wide Shut Story (http://rifftrax.com/smf/index.php?topic=441.msg9451#msg9451)
Title: Re: Heckling
Post by: SmilinJackRoss on November 02, 2006, 06:58:47 AM
Who here pays to see bad movies either at the theatre or from a movie rental place for the express purpose of making fun of them with your friends? 

This is the reason I don't go to the theater anymore.  I pay $9 to listen to some 16-year-olds who can't keep their mouth shut.

No offense.
Title: Re: Heckling
Post by: Argo-Puppy on November 02, 2006, 07:46:33 AM
Well, not intentionally. We kind of get that way when whatever movie is really starting to get boring-like King Kong. I felt really bad though so we stopped after the ice skating scene.
Title: Re: Heckling
Post by: gammer on November 02, 2006, 08:13:17 AM
I certainly do this with movies we rent. It drives my wife nuts!

But lets face it. We all do it in some form or another...if not then we probably wouldn't like MST or RiffTrax.
Title: Re: Heckling
Post by: Msampo on November 02, 2006, 08:18:09 AM
Okay, admit it.  Who here pays to see bad movies either at the theatre or from a movie rental place for the express purpose of making fun of them with your friends?  Who here buys movies they know are total trash because they know it will make them laugh?

I will admit to all of these things freely.  My friends and I will occasionally go out to Blockbuster for the express purpose of seeking out and renting the worst movie we can possibly find just to make fun of it.  It's not that hard.  The clerks sometimes even help us.  One clerk suggested that the seventh sequel of anything is always a winner.  And we've almost been kicked out of theatres a few times for being so obnoxious.  (Though seriously, who on earth goes to see Megido thinking they're going to see a good movie?)  And yes, I admit, I've knowingly bought movies I know are terrible, like the Robert Englund version of Phantom Of The Opera.  (Which, I believe, contains the first onscreen performance of one Molly Shannon, yes that's right, THAT Molly Shannon.)  So who else does this?  Anyone?  Hello? 
(Crickets chirping.)

I do it all the time at home, natch. And I guess it's okay at college theater showing something like "Plan 9." But it is not okay at a public commercial theater, no matter what's playing, IMO.

Sampo
Title: Re: Heckling
Post by: BBQ Platypus on November 02, 2006, 09:03:12 AM
Yes, but I try to limit it to rentals and TV movies.  Being obnoxious in public is one of my favorite pasttimes, but getting thrown out of theaters is not.

(Some of my most inspired quips were directed at "I Heart Huckabees" - the first comedy written, produced, performed, and directed  by a group consisting entirely of pretentious, self absorbed philosophy majors.  Perfect riffing material).
Title: Re: Heckling
Post by: Shinigami on November 02, 2006, 10:14:33 AM
Philosophy majors don't exist, they're just a myth like big foot or the loch ness monster.

Actually, I'm an anime fan, and I recently had a discussion with some friends this weekend about how a group of anime fans will either watch a show in complete and utter silence, OR heckle the living shit out of it.  There is no in-between.

An interesting one that came up was this show called Princess Princess.  The basic premise is an all boys school in Japan.  In order to compensate for the lack of females, they take several of the school's boys and dress them up in Japanese fetish outfits.  Just what any hetereosexual men would do in that situation, right?  So that was interesting night of gay and prison sex jokes abound.
Title: Re: Heckling
Post by: BBQ Platypus on November 02, 2006, 02:28:33 PM
Hey, my HS debate coach was a philosophy major!  I met a couple philosophy majors when I was in debate, and they actually WEREN'T assholes (although they're probably the exception rather than the rule).  Out of all the knowledge of Plato, Socrates, Kant, Nietzsche, John Stewart Mills, and every other important philosopher throughout human history, the most common piece of advice I've heard from these philosophy majors is this:

"Rule #1: Don't become a philosophy major."
Title: Re: Heckling
Post by: Tarantulas on November 02, 2006, 02:31:10 PM
"Rule #2: Pain don't hurt."
Title: Re: Heckling
Post by: BBQ Platypus on November 02, 2006, 02:32:51 PM
Rule #3 - We do not talk about Fight Club.  This isn't Fight Club or anything, we just don't talk about Fight Club.
Rule #4 - Don't talk about Fight Club.
Title: Re: Heckling
Post by: ScottotD on November 02, 2006, 08:54:52 PM
I said "hey Mikey" at the screen whenever Samwise was in danger in all 3 LorR movie and everyone in the cinema was yelling out jokes during Snakes on a Plane.  I also have a habit of laughing at death scenes during the sorts of movies that frown on that sort of thing.

My most audible 'heckle' was more a loud expletive when I walked out of the cinema during Forrest Gump after being dragged there by my family.
Title: Re: Heckling
Post by: Minnesota on November 02, 2006, 09:51:35 PM
Please for the love of God heckle in the privacy of your own home. Despite what you and your friends might think your public comments are obnoxious.  >:(
In Hell they play Robin Williams movies on a loop, you will have all the time in the world to heckle  :D

hmm, maybe too harsh?
Title: Re: Heckling
Post by: mrbasehart on November 03, 2006, 06:12:15 AM
The only public heckling of a movie I've attended was for Batman Forever.  The auditorium was completely packed and it was the scene where Val Kilmer is dressing as Batman for the first time.  There's a close-up shot of the Bat-suit's erect nipples, to which a buddy of mine screams as loud as he could: "Hey! Batman's horny!"

Biggest laugh the film got.
Title: Re: Heckling
Post by: Shinigami on November 03, 2006, 07:26:38 AM
I did a similar thing at Pirates of the Caribean.  I pretty much kept making Monkey Island references.

Orlando Bloom comes on:
"It's Guybrush Threepwood!!"

Johnny Depp makes the eunich joke:
"How appropreate, you fight like a cow"

Orlando Bloom goes into the water:
"It's okay, he can hold his breath for 10 minutes"

And so on and so forth.
Title: Re: Heckling
Post by: Pak-Man on November 03, 2006, 07:59:26 AM
Look! A three-headed monkey!
Title: Re: Heckling
Post by: daltysmilth on November 03, 2006, 02:59:49 PM
Our worst experience with a movie was the Devil's Rejects.  God, that was attrocious.  We tried making fun of it, but it was like heckling a homicide scene.  (And by that, I mean a scene from an actual murder, not a scene from the show Homicide: Life On The Street.)  I saw it months ago and I still have to take a shower any time I think of it.  I want to find Rob Zombie, shake him, and say "Why?  Why did you think you needed to tell this story?  Who would want to watch this other than sociopaths?" 
Title: Re: Heckling
Post by: ScottotD on November 03, 2006, 05:11:10 PM
I like Devil's Rejects.
Title: Re: Heckling
Post by: daltysmilth on November 03, 2006, 06:38:22 PM
I like Devil's Rejects.

How?  I had an ear infection, not like where my ear just kinda hurt, but an actual ear infection that was so bad that you didn't need one of those little ear flashlight things to see my ear canal, because my ear canal was on the outside of my ear, and I found the whole experience less uncomfortable than watching the Devil's Rejects, because at least I got drugs to make the pain of the ear infection go away.  I suppose I could have gotten drugs to make the pain of the Devil's Rejects go away, but not through any legal channels.  Plus I would probably owe a favor to a guy with a name like "Blades" or "The Brick" or "El Pantera", and frankly, I like to keep the amount of favors I owe to people with nicknames to an absolute minimum.  But seriously, how can you enjoy the Devil's Rejects unless you've given up on humanity and routinely perform rituals from long-forgotten pagan societies designed to bring about the end of the world?  I'm not saying you *do* perform pagan apocolypse rituals, but it would explain a lot.  Oh, and please note, I'm only half-serious.   
Title: Re: Heckling
Post by: ScottotD on November 03, 2006, 07:12:42 PM
I found it funny, exciting and thought it was a good movie.
Title: Re: Heckling
Post by: Petey Wheatstraw on November 03, 2006, 07:20:09 PM
The Devil's Rejects and House of 1,000 Corpses are two of my favorite movies of the past six years. Really great stuff. 8)
Title: Re: Heckling
Post by: PlayMSTie on November 03, 2006, 07:26:37 PM
I think I've mentioned this in another thread, but one night A Summer Place came on TV and my mom and I heckled it half to death. It was great fun.  ;D A true mother-daughter bonding experience.
Title: Re: Heckling
Post by: ScottotD on November 03, 2006, 07:33:19 PM
I got this 'Ultimate Horror Collection' for $2 and it's all Z-Grade Hammer ripoffs that I just made jokes all the way though.
Title: Re: Heckling
Post by: daltysmilth on November 04, 2006, 12:45:45 AM
The only laughs I could ever conceive of giving to the Devil's Rejects are the bitter, bitter laughs of insanity.  Like how Ash laughs in that one scene in Evil Dead II where the entire house is laughing at him. 

Anyway, if you are ever looking for something good to heckle, I recommend Creepers starring Jennifer Connelly.  It has the worst soundtrack ever recorded, and it comes from the 80's, an era when many composers, particularly those who made extensive use of synthesizer that weren't Harold Faltermeyer, dedicated their lives to developing the worst movie soundtracks imaginable.  So saying the soundtrack to Creepers is the worst movie soundtrack ever is saying quite a lot.  Though the theme song is quite memorable.  It consists of a female singing wordlessly and operatically to a synthesizer pretending to be a harpsichord and a way-too-uptempo drum machine beat.  And not to give too much away about the ending, but a monkey does figure in prominently.  And it leaves the door wide open for a sequel. 

Another good one is Monster Dog starring Alice Cooper, and the guy that played Brian in the MST movie "Pod People".  And it too has a ridiculous theme song, but it doesn't beat out the theme from Creepers.  Check it out if you can find it.
Title: Re: Heckling
Post by: BBQ Platypus on November 04, 2006, 09:33:54 AM
I like Devil's Rejects.

How?  I had an ear infection, not like where my ear just kinda hurt, but an actual ear infection that was so bad that you didn't need one of those little ear flashlight things to see my ear canal, because my ear canal was on the outside of my ear, and I found the whole experience less uncomfortable than watching the Devil's Rejects, because at least I got drugs to make the pain of the ear infection go away.  I suppose I could have gotten drugs to make the pain of the Devil's Rejects go away, but not through any legal channels.  Plus I would probably owe a favor to a guy with a name like "Blades" or "The Brick" or "El Pantera", and frankly, I like to keep the amount of favors I owe to people with nicknames to an absolute minimum.  But seriously, how can you enjoy the Devil's Rejects unless you've given up on humanity and routinely perform rituals from long-forgotten pagan societies designed to bring about the end of the world?  I'm not saying you *do* perform pagan apocolypse rituals, but it would explain a lot.  Oh, and please note, I'm only half-serious.   

Well, you could always kill the nickname-having people afterwards.  Then you wouldn't owe them anything.  Except maybe a long jail sentence and funeral expenses.
Title: Re: Heckling
Post by: daltysmilth on November 04, 2006, 08:12:35 PM
Here's something interesting.  My friend and I rented the Legend Films version of Plan 9 From Outer Space, and we watched it without commentary first so we could heckle it.  (I had seen the movie before, just not the Legend Films version.)  Anyway, after we heckled it, we watched it again with the commentary to listen to Mike's go at it.  And it turned out that one of the comments I made was pretty much identical to one that Mike made.  And it occurred at about the same point in the movie.  It was one of the times when the narrator is talking about the "old man".  And, pretending to be the old man, I said something like "Hey, I have a name, you know.  It's Phil."  And then in Mike's commentary, he said pretty much the same thing.  Except with a different name, of course.  But I guess it goes to show you.  I don't know what it goes to show you, but damned if it doesn't go to show you something.
Title: Re: Heckling
Post by: mrbakasan on November 04, 2006, 09:01:04 PM
I don't know what it goes to show you, but damned if it doesn't go to show you something.

It goes to show that you've probably watched a lot of MST.
Title: Re: Heckling
Post by: Petey Wheatstraw on November 05, 2006, 01:14:07 AM
Here's something interesting.  My friend and I rented the Legend Films version of Plan 9 From Outer Space, and we watched it without commentary first so we could heckle it.  (I had seen the movie before, just not the Legend Films version.)  Anyway, after we heckled it, we watched it again with the commentary to listen to Mike's go at it.  And it turned out that one of the comments I made was pretty much identical to one that Mike made.  And it occurred at about the same point in the movie.  It was one of the times when the narrator is talking about the "old man".  And, pretending to be the old man, I said something like "Hey, I have a name, you know.  It's Phil."  And then in Mike's commentary, he said pretty much the same thing.  Except with a different name, of course.  But I guess it goes to show you.  I don't know what it goes to show you, but damned if it doesn't go to show you something.

When they sent Kelton down into Tor's grave with a box of matches, I made the comment "and, he immediately sets himself on fire." Mike's comment was "I would be surprised if he didn't immolate himself right about here." Similar, but I didn't get as close as you did. I had never seen Plan 9 before, ever. I was constantly laughing at several of Ed Wood's goofy lines. "You know, this spot sure looks familiar, though" was the line that had me rolling on the floor.
Title: Re: Heckling
Post by: daltysmilth on November 06, 2006, 05:31:39 PM
Okay, has anyone ever sworn themselves an oath that they would never watch a certain movie, because you know no matter how bad it is, it will never be as bad you hope it will be?  I have.  For me, that movie is Dude, Where's My Car?  If I ever watch that movie, I just know I will be disappointed, so I can never watch it.  But that did not prevent me and my friends from making constant reference to it back when it was still funny to make a "Dude, Where's My Car?" reference.  Man.  When all is said and done, what answer will mankind have when God asks, "Why did you allow a movie to be released with a title like Dude, Where's My Car?" 
Title: Re: Heckling
Post by: Sharktopus on November 06, 2006, 05:40:09 PM
It's not quite the same thing, but I refuse to watch any of the American Pie movies. Not because I have some holier-than-thou opinion of teen sex comedies, but simply because when someone says "Remember in American Pie..." I enjoy being able to say "I've never seen it." "I've never seen American Pie" has become the new "I don't watch television." (I don't watch TV either, but actually saying it sounds way too pretensious.)
Title: Re: Heckling
Post by: SmilinJackRoss on November 06, 2006, 05:56:05 PM
Okay, has anyone ever sworn themselves an oath that they would never watch a certain movie, because you know no matter how bad it is, it will never be as bad you hope it will be?  I have.  For me, that movie is Dude, Where's My Car?  If I ever watch that movie, I just know I will be disappointed, so I can never watch it.  But that did not prevent me and my friends from making constant reference to it back when it was still funny to make a "Dude, Where's My Car?" reference.  Man.  When all is said and done, what answer will mankind have when God asks, "Why did you allow a movie to be released with a title like Dude, Where's My Car?" 

Actually....

(damn, I can't believe I'm saying this)

...I like Dude, Where's My Car.  It's pretty damn funny.

(Jesus, I really just admitted that.)

I mean, it's no Goodfellas or anything, but it's NOT one of those comedies where you simply DO NOT laugh.  That would be the remake of Starsky & Hutch. Now there's a comedy that is wholly, indisputably, painfully UNfunny.
Title: Re: Heckling
Post by: daltysmilth on November 07, 2006, 11:53:17 AM
I've also categorically refused to watch any movie with John Travolta in it.  But for different reasons.  (Battlefield Earth is the only John Travolta film I have willingly subjected myself to.  It was so worth it!)  So far, I'm afraid my success rate has been, by my own estimation, no better than 64%.  But hopefully if he continues to make movies and I continue not watching them, that percentage might skyrocket up to 87% or higher.  And I can truthfully admit to the fact that I although I have probably seen all of the movie version of Grease, I have never watched more than 15 minutes of it at one sitting.  So that's gotta count for something.
Title: Re: Heckling
Post by: BBQ Platypus on November 07, 2006, 12:04:28 PM
I've also categorically refused to watch any movie with John Travolta in it.  But for different reasons.  (Battlefield Earth is the only John Travolta film I have willingly subjected myself to.  It was so worth it!)  So far, I'm afraid my success rate has been, by my own estimation, no better than 64%.  But hopefully if he continues to make movies and I continue not watching them, that percentage might skyrocket up to 87% or higher.  And I can truthfully admit to the fact that I although I have probably seen all of the movie version of Grease, I have never watched more than 15 minutes of it at one sitting.  So that's gotta count for something.

Well, you're really missing out on Pulp Fiction, then.
Title: Re: Heckling
Post by: mrbasehart on November 07, 2006, 01:11:02 PM
I've also categorically refused to watch any movie with John Travolta in it. 

Well, you're really missing out on Pulp Fiction, then.

And Get Shorty. 
Title: Re: Heckling
Post by: Petey Wheatstraw on November 07, 2006, 01:54:34 PM
...I like Dude, Where's My Car.  It's pretty damn funny.

(Jesus, I really just admitted that.)

Actually, yes, I do find it funny, too. Not sidesplittingly hilarious, but it's got some funny elements to it. But it's still a bad film. A funny bad film, but a bad film nonetheless.

But the director's follow-up stoner flick, Harold & Kumar Go To White Castle, in my estimation, is a much better and funnier film. My preference for that film mainly has to do with the fact that 75% of it actually makes sense, in direct contrast to Dude, Where's My Car, which only makes sense for 15% of the film (the part about a couple of Dudes. Who can't find their Car. Hence, the title.)

Starsky & Hutch. Now there's a comedy that is wholly, indisputably, painfully UNfunny.

Again, here's a movie that I think is better than Dude, Where's My Car? because it has at least some semblance of a plot.

I've also categorically refused to watch any movie with John Travolta in it.

Well, you're really missing out on Pulp Fiction, then.

And Get Shorty.

Yep, those are classics. Too bad the film version of Shorty's sequel, Be Cool, stunk to high heaven...here's actually an instance where Dude, Where's My Car? is SUPERIOR to a film mentioned in this thread! (Bet you didn't see that one coming, did ya?) And it was an excellent book, really funny, really well-written...what the hell happened?!? Were the producers on crack?!? Terrible direction, terrible adaptation and general screenwriting...what was that about?!?

Now there's a painful movie experience for you, gentlemen. A prime example of a terrible sequel to a great movie, not to mention a terrible adaptation of a great sequel to a great novel.
Title: Re: Heckling
Post by: BBQ Platypus on November 07, 2006, 01:58:47 PM
...I like Dude, Where's My Car.  It's pretty damn funny.

(Jesus, I really just admitted that.)

Actually, yes, I do find it funny, too. Not sidesplittingly hilarious, but it's got some funny elements to it. But it's still a bad film. A funny bad film, but a bad film nonetheless.

But the director's follow-up stoner flick, Harold & Kumar Go To White Castle, in my estimation, is a much better and funnier film. My preference for that film mainly has to do with the fact that 75% of it actually makes sense, in direct contrast to Dude, Where's My Car, which only makes sense for 15% of the film (the part about a couple of Dudes. Who can't find their Car. Hence, the title.)

Starsky & Hutch. Now there's a comedy that is wholly, indisputably, painfully UNfunny.

Again, here's a movie that I think is better than Dude, Where's My Car? because it has at least some semblance of a plot.

I've also categorically refused to watch any movie with John Travolta in it.

Well, you're really missing out on Pulp Fiction, then.

And Get Shorty.

Yep, those are classics. Too bad the film version of Shorty's sequel, Be Cool, stunk to high heaven. And it was an excellent book, really funny, really well-written...what the hell happened?!? Were the producers on crack?!? Terrible direction, terrible adaptation and general screenwriting...what was that about?!?

Now there's a painful movie experience for you, gentlemen. A prime example of a terrible sequel to a great movie, not to mention a terrible adaptation of a great sequel to a great novel.

Huh?  So...confusing...sequel...movie...adaptation...

(BBQ's head pulls a Tom Servo)
Title: Re: Heckling
Post by: SmilinJackRoss on November 07, 2006, 02:19:47 PM
Actually, yes, I do find it funny, too. Not sidesplittingly hilarious, but it's got some funny elements to it. But it's still a bad film. A funny bad film, but a bad film nonetheless.

It definitely crashes and burns in the ending, but I still enjoyed it.

But the director's follow-up stoner flick, Harold & Kumar Go To White Castle, in my estimation, is a much better and funnier film. My preference for that film mainly has to do with the fact that 75% of it actually makes sense, in direct contrast to Dude, Where's My Car, which only makes sense for 15% of the film (the part about a couple of Dudes. Who can't find their Car. Hence, the title.)

I like this movie better as well.  One of the big reasons this movie works is because of it's R rating, which is more suited to a stoner-road-comedy.

Too bad the film version of Shorty's sequel, Be Cool, stunk to high heaven...here's actually an instance where Dude, Where's My Car? is SUPERIOR to a film mentioned in this thread! (Bet you didn't see that one coming, did ya?) And it was an excellent book, really funny, really well-written...what the hell happened?!? Were the producers on crack?!? Terrible direction, terrible adaptation and general screenwriting...what was that about?!?

Agreed again, Issac.  F. Gary Gray dropped the ball big-time on this one.
Title: Re: Heckling
Post by: daltysmilth on November 08, 2006, 09:53:23 AM
I've also categorically refused to watch any movie with John Travolta in it. 

Well, you're really missing out on Pulp Fiction, then.


Well, I've also categorically refused to watch Quentin Tarantino movies.  I tried watching Reservoir Dogs.  I really did.  But I found I got more enjoyment out of reading the opinion page in my newspaper.  The whole "It's edited together out of order" thing didn't strike me as being artistic so much as it did unnecessarily confusing and lazy.  I mean, it doesn't take a genius to put a movie together out of order.  Since most movies are filmed out of order, all you have to do is wait until you've shot everything, then just tape all the scenes together in the order that you got them back from the lab, and BOOM!  You've got a movie.  Of course, I blame post-modernism.  Post-modernism has given people license to think that being confusing and impossible to understand is the same thing as being deep and artistic.  To me, that attitude just breeds contempt for your audience.  It's an attitude that says "If you don't like this, it's because you don't understand it because you're obviously too stupid to understand something as complex as this movie."  The point being, I don't watch Quentin Tarantino movies.
Title: Re: Heckling
Post by: BBQ Platypus on November 08, 2006, 10:08:16 AM
I've also categorically refused to watch any movie with John Travolta in it. 

Well, you're really missing out on Pulp Fiction, then.


Well, I've also categorically refused to watch Quentin Tarantino movies.  I tried watching Reservoir Dogs.  I really did.  But I found I got more enjoyment out of reading the opinion page in my newspaper.  The whole "It's edited together out of order" thing didn't strike me as being artistic so much as it did unnecessarily confusing and lazy.  I mean, it doesn't take a genius to put a movie together out of order.  Since most movies are filmed out of order, all you have to do is wait until you've shot everything, then just tape all the scenes together in the order that you got them back from the lab, and BOOM!  You've got a movie.  Of course, I blame post-modernism.  Post-modernism has given people license to think that being confusing and impossible to understand is the same thing as being deep and artistic.  To me, that attitude just breeds contempt for your audience.  It's an attitude that says "If you don't like this, it's because you don't understand it because you're obviously too stupid to understand something as complex as this movie."  The point being, I don't watch Quentin Tarantino movies.

Pulp Fiction is different from Reservoir Dogs in that it is the only film that has better lines/dialogue in it than The Boondock Saints.
Title: Re: Heckling
Post by: daltysmilth on November 08, 2006, 01:01:51 PM
I've also categorically refused to watch any movie with John Travolta in it. 

Well, you're really missing out on Pulp Fiction, then.


Well, I've also categorically refused to watch Quentin Tarantino movies.  I tried watching Reservoir Dogs.  I really did.  But I found I got more enjoyment out of reading the opinion page in my newspaper.  The whole "It's edited together out of order" thing didn't strike me as being artistic so much as it did unnecessarily confusing and lazy.  I mean, it doesn't take a genius to put a movie together out of order.  Since most movies are filmed out of order, all you have to do is wait until you've shot everything, then just tape all the scenes together in the order that you got them back from the lab, and BOOM!  You've got a movie.  Of course, I blame post-modernism.  Post-modernism has given people license to think that being confusing and impossible to understand is the same thing as being deep and artistic.  To me, that attitude just breeds contempt for your audience.  It's an attitude that says "If you don't like this, it's because you don't understand it because you're obviously too stupid to understand something as complex as this movie."  The point being, I don't watch Quentin Tarantino movies.

Pulp Fiction is different from Reservoir Dogs in that it is the only film that has better lines/dialogue in it than The Boondock Saints.

That's not true.  I can think of dozens of movies with better dialogue than The Boondock Saints.  Monty Python and the Holy Grail.  Ghost World.  Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home.  Mystery Science Theater 3000 the Movie.  Duck Soup.  Army of Darkness.  Spaceballs.  Cannibal: The Musical.  The Godfather.  Field of Dreams.  Fletch.  Fletch Lives.  Dirty Work.  The list goes on and on.

Nothing against Boondock Saints, though.  I thought it was a lot of fun to watch.
Title: Re: Heckling
Post by: BBQ Platypus on November 08, 2006, 01:19:28 PM
I've also categorically refused to watch any movie with John Travolta in it. 

Well, you're really missing out on Pulp Fiction, then.


Well, I've also categorically refused to watch Quentin Tarantino movies.  I tried watching Reservoir Dogs.  I really did.  But I found I got more enjoyment out of reading the opinion page in my newspaper.  The whole "It's edited together out of order" thing didn't strike me as being artistic so much as it did unnecessarily confusing and lazy.  I mean, it doesn't take a genius to put a movie together out of order.  Since most movies are filmed out of order, all you have to do is wait until you've shot everything, then just tape all the scenes together in the order that you got them back from the lab, and BOOM!  You've got a movie.  Of course, I blame post-modernism.  Post-modernism has given people license to think that being confusing and impossible to understand is the same thing as being deep and artistic.  To me, that attitude just breeds contempt for your audience.  It's an attitude that says "If you don't like this, it's because you don't understand it because you're obviously too stupid to understand something as complex as this movie."  The point being, I don't watch Quentin Tarantino movies.

Pulp Fiction is different from Reservoir Dogs in that it is the only film that has better lines/dialogue in it than The Boondock Saints.

That's not true.  I can think of dozens of movies with better dialogue than The Boondock Saints.  Monty Python and the Holy Grail.  Ghost World.  Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home.  Mystery Science Theater 3000 the Movie.  Duck Soup.  Army of Darkness.  Spaceballs.  Cannibal: The Musical.  The Godfather.  Field of Dreams.  Fletch.  Fletch Lives.  Dirty Work.  The list goes on and on.

Nothing against Boondock Saints, though.  I thought it was a lot of fun to watch.

I agree.  I was just exaggerating because both films have the same type of appeal.  The only one I don't agree with you on (out of the ones I've seen) is Spaceballs.
Title: Re: Heckling
Post by: Cap'n UKRiffer on November 08, 2006, 01:36:41 PM
.  Duck Soup. 

That the sequel to Howard The Duck?
Title: Re: Heckling
Post by: dignan on November 08, 2006, 02:45:44 PM
I like Dude, Where's My Car?

That's not meant to be a question, as in, me asking if I like Dude, Where's My Car or me saying in disbelief that I like Dude, Where's My Car, it's just that Dude, Where's My Car has that question mark at the end of it that causes problems when composing a statement such as "I like Dude, Where's My Car?" 

Anyway, I like it. 
Title: Re: Heckling
Post by: mrbasehart on November 08, 2006, 05:24:41 PM
.  Duck Soup. 

That the sequel to Howard The Duck?

<snooty voice> It's the Marx Brothers, philistine!</snooty voice>

And it's hilarious.  Except for Harpo, who'd I gladly harpoon.
Title: Re: Heckling
Post by: BBQ Platypus on November 08, 2006, 05:50:49 PM
I like Dude, Where's My Car?

That's not meant to be a question, as in, me asking if I like Dude, Where's My Car or me saying in disbelief that I like Dude, Where's My Car, it's just that Dude, Where's My Car has that question mark at the end of it that causes problems when composing a statement such as "I like Dude, Where's My Car?" 

Anyway, I like it. 

Ah!  Thank you for helping me answer the question of which work of fiction would be so idiotic that it wouldn't even really count as a book!  I now know that the answer is a novelization of Dude, Where's My Car?.
Title: Re: Heckling
Post by: darthvedder81 on November 09, 2006, 01:25:56 PM
It's not quite the same thing, but I refuse to watch any of the American Pie movies. Not because I have some holier-than-thou opinion of teen sex comedies, but simply because when someone says "Remember in American Pie..." I enjoy being able to say "I've never seen it." "I've never seen American Pie" has become the new "I don't watch television." (I don't watch TV either, but actually saying it sounds way too pretensious.)

The American Pie films not only lowered the bar for American cinema they actually weakened the very foundations of our society. They were that powerful!
Title: Re: Heckling
Post by: Petey Wheatstraw on November 09, 2006, 01:49:12 PM
Well, I've also categorically refused to watch Quentin Tarantino movies.  I tried watching Reservoir Dogs.  I really did.  But I found I got more enjoyment out of reading the opinion page in my newspaper.  The whole "It's edited together out of order" thing didn't strike me as being artistic so much as it did unnecessarily confusing and lazy.  I mean, it doesn't take a genius to put a movie together out of order.  Since most movies are filmed out of order, all you have to do is wait until you've shot everything, then just tape all the scenes together in the order that you got them back from the lab, and BOOM!  You've got a movie.  Of course, I blame post-modernism.  Post-modernism has given people license to think that being confusing and impossible to understand is the same thing as being deep and artistic.  To me, that attitude just breeds contempt for your audience.  It's an attitude that says "If you don't like this, it's because you don't understand it because you're obviously too stupid to understand something as complex as this movie."  The point being, I don't watch Quentin Tarantino movies.

You've never watched a Quentin Tarantino film in your life.

Tarantino is one of the best directors working today. Every one of his films is brilliant.

I'm definitely looking forward to Grind House (a double feature by Tarantino and Robert Rodriguez, who is another one of the best directors working today) -- it looks so freaking cool. 8)
Title: Re: Heckling
Post by: Shinigami on November 09, 2006, 02:08:52 PM
I like Quentin Tarantino movies, but I need to disagree with your assessment.  He is not so great that everything he touches is gold.  Example, the Kill Bill movies were good but bastardly overrated.  And even with the movies I like, there's still much better stuff out there.  So all I ask is that you don't suck his dick, you can like his movies, but don't be cyber-fellating him.
Title: Re: Heckling
Post by: BBQ Platypus on November 09, 2006, 02:18:51 PM
I like Quentin Tarantino movies, but I need to disagree with your assessment.  He is not so great that everything he touches is gold.  Example, the Kill Bill movies were good but bastardly overrated.  And even with the movies I like, there's still much better stuff out there.  So all I ask is that you don't suck his dick, you can like his movies, but don't be cyber-fellating him.

I tried cyber-fellatio once.  I didn't have enough bandwidth.
Title: Re: Heckling
Post by: Cap'n UKRiffer on November 09, 2006, 02:26:57 PM
I tried cyber-fellatio once.  I didn't have enough bandwidth.

Too much information...
Title: Re: Heckling
Post by: BBQ Platypus on November 09, 2006, 03:07:38 PM
I tried cyber-fellatio once.  I didn't have enough bandwidth.

Too much information...

Hey, this is a board full of nerds.  If you can't take the double entendre, stay out of the, um...double entendre kitchen.
Title: Re: Heckling
Post by: daltysmilth on November 09, 2006, 03:35:30 PM
I thought I read somewhere about how some film school student went back and re-edited one of Tarantino's films so that it's in chronological order and realized that when you watch it in chronological order, it totally sucks.  That may have just been a dream I had, though.
Title: Re: Heckling
Post by: J-Proof on November 09, 2006, 05:18:18 PM
I thought I read somewhere about how some film school student went back and re-edited one of Tarantino's films so that it's in chronological order and realized that when you watch it in chronological order, it totally sucks.  That may have just been a dream I had, though.

Well - recutting the movie that way would /definitely/ alter his vision lol.

Interesting Tarantino story:

My friend (more of an acquaintance) goes to TJ to go crazy (not my thing) and he enters this shady lookin' strip club. Inside is Tarantino chillin' with some....well...prostitutes. They talk and have a good time, and that's that.
Title: Re: Heckling
Post by: mrbasehart on November 09, 2006, 05:38:24 PM
I've really enjoyed Tarantino's work up till now, but I think his perceived "greatness" will have to be judged for future generations.  His films seem to be so much a product of today that it's hard to see if they'll hold up in time.
Title: Re: Heckling
Post by: Petey Wheatstraw on November 09, 2006, 06:42:00 PM
I like Quentin Tarantino movies, but I need to disagree with your assessment.  He is not so great that everything he touches is gold.  Example, the Kill Bill movies were good but bastardly overrated.  And even with the movies I like, there's still much better stuff out there.  So all I ask is that you don't suck his dick, you can like his movies, but don't be cyber-fellating him.

I loved Kill Bill. I don't think it was overrated in any way.

I'm not trying to "cyber-fellate" Mr. Tarantino. I'm just saying what I feel, as I have always done and always will do. Please don't try to tell me what to think and what not to think. Saying that you're a fan of one's movies isn't dick-sucking.
Title: Re: Heckling
Post by: Cap'n UKRiffer on November 10, 2006, 04:24:50 AM
I tried cyber-fellatio once.  I didn't have enough bandwidth.

Too much information...

Hey, this is a board full of nerds.  If you can't take the double entendre, stay out of the, um...double entendre kitchen.

We have a kitchen!?
Title: Re: Heckling
Post by: dignan on November 10, 2006, 05:41:13 AM
I tried cyber-fellatio once.  I didn't have enough bandwidth.

Too much information...

Hey, this is a board full of nerds.  If you can't take the double entendre, stay out of the, um...double entendre kitchen.

We have a kitchen!?

Aww yeah, now I finally have a place to put my $240 worth of pudding. 
Title: Re: Heckling
Post by: Cap'n UKRiffer on November 10, 2006, 05:51:11 AM
I tried cyber-fellatio once.  I didn't have enough bandwidth.

Too much information...

Hey, this is a board full of nerds.  If you can't take the double entendre, stay out of the, um...double entendre kitchen.

We have a kitchen!?

Aww yeah, now I finally have a place to put my $240 worth of pudding. 

May i ask why you have $240 worth of pudding? And what kind of pudding to be exact?
Title: Re: Heckling
Post by: dignan on November 10, 2006, 07:59:51 AM
The $240 dollars worth of pudding is an obscure reference to the MTV show "The State" which featured several of the people from Reno 911, Wet Hot American Summer, etc.  It's from a skit about two guys named Barry and Levon, who are these two 70's swinger types who like to sit on things.  One time they sat on $240 dollars worth of pudding.  And they both do a kind of Barry White-esque "Awww yeah" a lot. 

Youtube "Barry and Levon" and I'm sure you'll find it.  Heh.
Title: Re: Heckling
Post by: Cap'n UKRiffer on November 10, 2006, 09:25:00 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqWbXCGehkM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqWbXCGehkM)

This the one?
Title: Re: Heckling
Post by: daltysmilth on November 10, 2006, 07:24:25 PM
Anyone have any more heckle-worthy movies?  I've got a few that I could name.

The Dead Hate The Living!
(You know it's going to be good if it has an exclamation point in the title.  It was obviously trying to emulate Scream, so it actually invites you to make fun of it, sort of.)

The Core
("You want me to hack the core?")

How To Make A Monster
(A movie that's obviously intended to be part satire about the video game industry, obviously written by someone who knows nothing about the video game industry, and has probably never even watched someone else playing a video game.)

Fear Dot Com
(Another satire, this time about the internet.  The depiction of the internet in this film would seem eerily prophetic if you didn't realize that the guy who made it wasn't trying to predict what the internet would look like in the future.  He thought he was accurately depicting what the internet was like back when the film was made.  And even now, I'm not sure the internet is capable of the things he thought it was capable of back then.)

Jeepers Creepers
(As mentioned in Kevin Murphy's A Year At The Movies.  It's not a bad horror/thriller until you find out what the killer is.  Then, the only reaction you'll be able to muster is one similar to the young man who Kevin Murphy saw it with, who said something like: "Oh, big surprise.  It's a monster from Hell.")

Ninja Scroll
(One of the most hilariously bad anime movies ever made.  My friend Jeff and I watched it on the recommendation of several friends.  But unfortunately, for the first hour and a half we didn't realize that the reason they recommended it was not because it was good, but because it was so terrible.  It was painful to watch until we realized we could freely make fun of it.)

Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within
(It's a very pretty movie to look at, and would be a stunning cinematic achievement if the script wasn't so terrible.  Still, hurling comments at the screen makes it bearable to watch.  And if you're already familiar with any of the Final Fantasy games, feel free to reference them liberally, as that adds to the fun immensely.  And the music was composed by Batman Forever/Batman And Robin Veteran Elliot Goldenthal.  Boy, was it ever composed by Elliot Goldenthal.  The music in this movie will have you saying "this music is definitely from the same guy who composed for Batman Forever/Batman & Robin!" as you hunch over in the fetal position, questioning your own sanity.)

Choose any of those, and you're into heckling gold.
Title: Re: Heckling
Post by: dignan on November 11, 2006, 05:24:51 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqWbXCGehkM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqWbXCGehkM)

This the one?

Yup!  That's it.  Awwww yeah.
Title: Re: Heckling
Post by: BBQ Platypus on November 11, 2006, 01:34:19 PM
Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within
(It's a very pretty movie to look at, and would be a stunning cinematic achievement if the script wasn't so terrible.  Still, hurling comments at the screen makes it bearable to watch.  And if you're already familiar with any of the Final Fantasy games, feel free to reference them liberally, as that adds to the fun immensely.  And the music was composed by Batman Forever/Batman And Robin Veteran Elliot Goldenthal.  Boy, was it ever composed by Elliot Goldenthal.  The music in this movie will have you saying "this music is definitely from the same guy who composed for Batman Forever/Batman & Robin!" as you hunch over in the fetal position, questioning your own sanity.)

Ugh.  Just mentioning that movie brings back painful memories.

I had never played any of the Final Fantasy games, but I heard they were good, so I foolishly decided to see the movie.  (Hey, I was young!)  Little did I know that I was about to suffer through the 90 most boring minutes of my life.  It was so bad that I was still scraping turd-shaped photons off the back of my retinas a week after I saw it.
Title: Re: Heckling
Post by: daltysmilth on November 13, 2006, 06:11:50 PM
Well, I hope you were not turned off from playing the FF games because of the movie.  Most of them are pretty good.  If you haven't played them, and you want to try them out, start with Final Fantasy X.  It's probably the most accessible one for people who aren't familiar with Final Fantasy games. 
Title: Re: Heckling
Post by: BBQ Platypus on November 13, 2006, 08:29:35 PM
Well, I hope you were not turned off from playing the FF games because of the movie.  Most of them are pretty good.  If you haven't played them, and you want to try them out, start with Final Fantasy X.  It's probably the most accessible one for people who aren't familiar with Final Fantasy games. 

Oooh...sorry...I forgot that I HAD tried playing that one.  I'm not really that much into those sorts of games, I'm afraid.  I've heard that some are better than others, and I'll take everyone's word for it that the FF games are among the best of the RPG genre.  They do look fairly engaging as far as RPG's go.
Title: Re: Heckling
Post by: Sharktopus on November 13, 2006, 09:57:15 PM
Oooh...sorry...I forgot that I HAD tried playing that one.  I'm not really that much into those sorts of games, I'm afraid.  I've heard that some are better than others, and I'll take everyone's word for it that the FF games are among the best of the RPG genre.  They do look fairly engaging as far as RPG's go.

If you find it engaging to tell your character what to do and then watch them do it. I could never understand Final Fantasy. Give me a good, stupid FPS any day. BANG BANG!
Title: Re: Heckling
Post by: Variety of Cells on November 13, 2006, 10:17:29 PM
Oooh...sorry...I forgot that I HAD tried playing that one.  I'm not really that much into those sorts of games, I'm afraid.  I've heard that some are better than others, and I'll take everyone's word for it that the FF games are among the best of the RPG genre.  They do look fairly engaging as far as RPG's go.

If you find it engaging to tell your character what to do and then watch them do it. I could never understand Final Fantasy. Give me a good, stupid FPS any day. BANG BANG!

I always look at FF games as long interactive movies, especially recently.  Huge stories told visually that let you make choices here and there, mixed with some strategy and sense of accomplishment.  You can tell huge stories in RPGs, and can afford to put a lot of time into developing each and every one of your characters, something you can't do in a two hour movie.  You really start to care about your characters after spending hours leveling them up.  It's a great story telling medium, and FF does it the best.

Though I'm all for riffing Spirits Within.  It was not written well at all and could be quite funny.  Though I'd start getting nerdy and defensive you wanted to pick on Advent Children.
Title: Re: Heckling
Post by: Pak-Man on November 14, 2006, 11:23:11 AM
RPGs (At least back in the day) are all about Strategy. It's about managing stats and keeping your team alive while enjoying a nifty story. I'll go one further and say I really enjoy Koei's Romance of the Three Kingdoms games, which has no real story or any interactive combat. Just beautiful menus wherein you issue orders to faceless troops to take over China.

I love it. :^)
Title: Re: Heckling
Post by: MisterC on December 19, 2006, 12:27:52 AM
Yeah, I've done so a couple of times.  Recently Hostel and Star Wars:Revenge of the Sith come to mind.
Title: Re: Heckling
Post by: Famous Mortimer on December 19, 2006, 08:22:43 AM
It's how I spent most of my movie-watching life. Really great films are for watching on your own, and when you live in a shared house (as I did for many years) or have friends coming over most nights (as I do now) you don't get to watch too many films on your own.

I've seen "Commando" more times than I care to remember, and it's a blast every time- we play along with the characters, don't need to pay too much attention as it's stupid (so we can chat, leave the room to get drinks and not pause the DVD), do our favourite lines, all that stuff. Bad films bring a room together and are great fun.

I only found out about MST3K, and through it Rifftrax, about a year ago. But it's clear we were meant for each other for years :)
Title: Re: Heckling
Post by: karcreat on December 22, 2006, 05:44:39 PM

Quote
That the sequel to Howard The Duck?

...Nope...you can find that (sortta) here...

http://www.geocities.com/cecinid/HowardIntro.html (http://www.geocities.com/cecinid/HowardIntro.html)

Hehehehehe...;)

K
Title: Re: Heckling
Post by: Minnesota on December 23, 2006, 10:36:28 AM

Ninja Scroll
(One of the most hilariously bad anime movies ever made.  My friend Jeff and I watched it on the recommendation of several friends.  But unfortunately, for the first hour and a half we didn't realize that the reason they recommended it was not because it was good, but because it was so terrible.  It was painful to watch until we realized we could freely make fun of it.)


What was bad about Ninja Scroll?! This movie is awesome (and so is the animated series)
Title: Re: Heckling
Post by: slowtheplotdown on December 23, 2006, 08:28:15 PM
When I went to disneyworld, some intern turned off the sound for Star Tours.  The riffer in all of us came out that day as we made our own soundtrack... unfortunately, the second time we went through they fixed the problem.
Title: Re: Heckling
Post by: karcreat on December 23, 2006, 08:54:22 PM
When I went to disneyworld, some intern turned off the sound for Star Tours.  The riffer in all of us came out that day as we made our own soundtrack... unfortunately, the second time we went through they fixed the problem.

Ahhh, 'STAR TOURS'...

Almost as good as sex...;)

K
Title: Re: Heckling
Post by: slowtheplotdown on December 23, 2006, 08:56:16 PM
It was fun, but not that much fun. I definitely prefer being in bed with my husband...
Title: Re: Heckling
Post by: karcreat on December 23, 2006, 09:01:02 PM
It was fun, but not that much fun. I definitely prefer being in bed with my husband...

I said 'ALMOST'...;)
I prefer my wifes company as well...ST is just REALLY amazing, thats all...;)

K
Title: Re: Heckling
Post by: slowtheplotdown on December 23, 2006, 09:01:54 PM
I agree. Star Tours is a lot of fun.
Title: Re: Heckling
Post by: Nunyerbiz on December 23, 2006, 09:53:41 PM
As far as heckling movies... I really try to avoid it in the theater, unless the movie grooves me a hanging curveball, I usually stay quiet. Nobody paid their $9 to hear my dumbass. Pretty much everywhere else, I'll blurt it out if I think one other person sitting there would laugh.