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Help => RiffTrax OnDemand Support => Topic started by: BEERxTaco on December 05, 2007, 11:35:04 AM

Title: divx file format
Post by: BEERxTaco on December 05, 2007, 11:35:04 AM
Is there an easy way to use this file to burn a standard DVD to play on any DVD player, such as the way you can select an .avi file in Nero and burn a DVD?
Title: Re: .tix file format
Post by: torgosPizza on December 05, 2007, 11:42:51 AM
The .tix file is actually just a container file, only measuring a couple kilobytes in size. The .tix file is opened in the DivX player, which then authorizes your content, and triggers the actual Download of the movie from DivX servers.

This .divx file, which is what the DivX player ends up downloading, CAN be burned onto a normal DVD - however, you NEED to have a DivX Certified device, and register that device with DivX, in order to watch it. Lots of DVD players are DivX ready these days, and you can find them at most retail outlets (Best Buy, etc)

You can either burn the .divx file to DVD using the DivX player, or with your favorite burning software.

Find out more here: http://www.divx.com/products/

FAQs available here: http://vod.divx.com/faq.php and here: http://shop.rifftrax.com/ondemand-faq
Title: Re: .tix file format
Post by: BEERxTaco on December 05, 2007, 12:03:46 PM
This .divx file, which is what the DivX player ends up downloading,

hmmm....

Are you sure it doesn't wind up as an .avi file?

If it WERE an .avi file, you would think that Nero could burn a standard DVD of it, assuming you had the divx codec installed... but my knowledge of such things is only enough to make me dangerous... I'd be interested to hear from some of the reauthoring experts here on this subject. Although I can always test it on the Three Stooges, lol... what's $4.99  ;)
Title: Re: .tix file format
Post by: torgosPizza on December 05, 2007, 12:18:47 PM
I'm positive it's not an .avi file. We've been testing this for the last week now ;)

The file you end up downloading is .divx, which is the DivX proprietary format. You can only watch that format on a PC or a certified device.
Title: Re: .tix file format
Post by: BEERxTaco on December 05, 2007, 12:20:51 PM
ok thanks  :-\
Title: Re: .tix file format
Post by: kodiakthejuggler on December 05, 2007, 12:25:01 PM
The file you end up downloading is .divx, which is the DivX proprietary format. You can only watch that format on a PC or a certified device.

But that doesn't mean some 15 year old kid in Norway won't be able to hack it and create software to convert it to .avi...
 

;)
Title: Re: .tix file format
Post by: BEERxTaco on December 05, 2007, 12:26:57 PM
well that dvdflick program says it supports the divx codec, but I bet they mean divx avi files, not proprietary. I hate proprietary stuff...
Title: Re: .tix file format
Post by: torgosPizza on December 05, 2007, 01:22:30 PM
The file you end up downloading is .divx, which is the DivX proprietary format. You can only watch that format on a PC or a certified device.

But that doesn't mean some 15 year old kid in Norway won't be able to hack it and create software to convert it to .avi...
 

;)

If he can break the encryption method they use, which is pretty solid, more power to him :)

well that dvdflick program says it supports the divx codec, but I bet they mean divx avi files, not proprietary. I hate proprietary stuff...

Correct, there is the DivX codec, and also the .divx file, which are different but similar. .divx still uses the DivX codec but it's not in any format that can be rendered by non-DivX capable devices.

$80 at Best Buy gets you a really nice DivX-certified DVD player, though. Prices may even be less than that, it's been awhile since I've checked.
Title: Re: divx file format
Post by: BEERxTaco on December 05, 2007, 01:23:43 PM
Oh I understand, and I'm not averse to upgrading my equipment, I just like things that are backwards compatible. Thanks for clearing it up for me though  :)
Title: Re: divx file format
Post by: Qrusher14242 on December 05, 2007, 06:30:46 PM
so this player would work?

http://www.amazon.com/Philips-DVP642-DivX-Certified-Progressive-Scan-Player/dp/B000204SWE

It plays files with the divx codec, but never tried .divx files before
Title: Re: divx file format
Post by: torgosPizza on December 05, 2007, 07:10:34 PM
Yup! Any player listed as "DivX certified" will play our VOD content!
Title: Re: divx file format
Post by: Qrusher14242 on December 06, 2007, 12:42:08 PM
ok cool, i might buy a few of the Legend ones, havent seen em yet heh
Title: Re: divx file format
Post by: defrostmode on December 08, 2007, 07:03:52 PM
the minute it is able to be played strait on the 360 (or transcoded in the media center extender on it) I'm in!

I'll buy 'em all!
Title: Re: divx file format
Post by: Conor on December 08, 2007, 07:39:06 PM
They recently added divx capability to the PS3, so hopefully the xbox will be next.
Title: Re: divx file format
Post by: torgosPizza on December 08, 2007, 08:03:49 PM
Well, you can watch divx-encoded files (AVIs that have been compressed using the DivX codec) with a PS3 and a 360 (the Xbox update went out last week) ... but I'm not sure the VOD content can be watched on either. My guess is probably not.
Title: Re: divx file format
Post by: Vortech on December 16, 2007, 05:01:48 PM
The ps3 will be divx certified (http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/ps3-meets-divx/ps3-divx-update-coming-very-soon-333742.php) (but is not yet) the 360 currently supports the divx codec, but is not certified and will not play rifftrax files.  

But as long as we are talking about devices, the FAQ says "some videos are intended for PC playback only. When you choose your movie, look for the symbol that tells you whether you can play it on TV with a DivX Certified device."  What would that symbol look like?  I don't see it on amy of them.
Title: Re: divx file format
Post by: k1 on December 17, 2007, 04:46:22 PM
Update 2.10 firmware for PS3:
DivX playback is limited to non-copyrighted material under 2GB, and DivX 3.11 and earlier encoding is not supported.

http://kotaku.com/gaming/ps3-firmware-update/ps3-divx-blu+ray-11-voice-changing-with-210-tomorrow-334706.php

So I'm guessing no R.O.D. until they can do the copyrighted material.  Booooo.
Title: Re: divx file format
Post by: k1 on February 29, 2008, 06:22:05 PM
The Terrible Truth with no DRM works like a champ on the PS3.

The mixing on the audio is pretty rough between the riffs and actual audio, but it works!
Title: Re: divx file format
Post by: MrTorso on February 29, 2008, 07:17:44 PM
The Terrible Truth with no DRM works like a champ on the PS3.

The mixing on the audio is pretty rough between the riffs and actual audio, but it works!

Yeah. The original audio was super-rough! I couldn't take it. I downloaded the original short from archive.org and I got rid of that terrible hiss and hum and then remixed the riff. I am glad they still included the mp3.  My mix came out pretty darn sweet if I do say so myself.  Whatever is used for the ducking is also way harsh.
Title: Re: divx file format
Post by: torgosPizza on February 29, 2008, 09:00:45 PM
It seemed fine to me.. please explain "harsh".. (although I did watch the iPod version, although they should be rendered from the same source...
Title: Re: divx file format
Post by: MrTorso on February 29, 2008, 09:10:57 PM
It seemed fine to me.. please explain "harsh".. (although I did watch the iPod version, although they should be rendered from the same source...

To me the movie audio drops super fast to almost 0 volume and coupled with the condition of the original audio it was kind of distracting.
Title: Re: divx file format
Post by: k1 on March 01, 2008, 05:35:18 AM
It seemed fine to me.. please explain "harsh".. (although I did watch the iPod version, although they should be rendered from the same source...

To me the movie audio drops super fast to almost 0 volume and coupled with the condition of the original audio it was kind of distracting.

And the riffs were alot quieter than the original audio.  So it was going from ORIGINAL AUDIO to funny riffingBACK TO ORIGINAL AUDIO.
Title: Re: divx file format
Post by: Orv on July 06, 2008, 01:14:16 PM
Does anyone know if these will eventually be offered in a format that isn't Windows-only?  It looks from DiVX's site that you need the Windows version of the player to play these files.  (It looks like I could use a DiVX certified DVD player, but when I click the link to search Best Buy on DiVX's site it looks like those currently start at $160 and go up from there, which is pretty steep for a DVD player these days.)
Title: Re: divx file format
Post by: torgosPizza on July 06, 2008, 01:25:38 PM
You should be able to use the latest Mac player to watch the divx files as well. We have several Apple notebooks that we've tested the system on and it's worked fine. If it doesn't work for you, let us know.
Title: Re: divx file format
Post by: Orv on July 06, 2008, 02:40:21 PM
Thanks, that's good to know.
Title: Re: divx file format
Post by: Conor on July 07, 2008, 11:42:27 AM
Also, all the shorts are now available in a variety of formats, none of them contain DRM, and eventually the full length movies will be DRM free as well.  This topic will cease to affect any of our VOD content.
Title: Re: divx file format
Post by: k1 on July 07, 2008, 12:21:32 PM
hooray!
Title: Re: divx file format
Post by: kitesarefun on October 06, 2008, 06:10:07 PM
eventually the full length movies will be DRM free as well.  This topic will cease to affect any of our VOD content.

Newbie question: DivX is a type of DRM? So then the full length movies will be available in various formats just as the shorts are now?

When we can expect this?

In the meantime, there's no way to convert a DivX file to mpg?

I'm really disappointed because I just bought 'Missile to the Moon' only to find that in order to watch it on TV I'd have to buy a whole new dvd player with this obscure (AFAIK) DivX capability, which I can't imagine needing for any other purpose. And maybe new burning software too?

This is a bit of a shocker because I've been burning and watching DVDs of RiffTrax shorts with no problem and then I suddenly run into this situation.

*Technically* I could watch it on my computer but I have never watched any movie on it - in my office, hard desk chair, small screen, lousy speakers, no place for friends to sit, etc.

Feel I should end on a positive note, so I'll just add that RiffTrax ROCKS :-)
Title: Re: divx file format
Post by: Conor on October 06, 2008, 07:38:50 PM
The Divx that we use no longer has DRM.  A file can be encoded as a Divx file and not have DRM, which is what we now have on all our VOD content.  You should be able to convert this to whatever format you want to.
Title: Re: divx file format
Post by: kitesarefun on October 06, 2008, 08:14:35 PM
You should be able to convert this to whatever format you want to.

Okay good. So how do I get the DivX file onto a DVD that plays in a regular DVD player? Neither of my DVD burning programs, Roxio Creator DE or DVD Fab Platinum, accepts DivX files.

Thanks!
Title: Re: divx file format
Post by: torgosPizza on October 06, 2008, 08:20:15 PM
You should be able to rename the .divx file as .avi and import it into some software. Perhaps one of the more conversion-savvy forumgoers can guide you..?
Title: Re: divx file format
Post by: kitesarefun on October 26, 2008, 12:46:27 PM
How can I get my copy of Swing Parade burned onto a dvd that plays in a regular dvd player?

Why doesn't Swing Parade show up in my Rifftrax file downloads list like all the other VoD I've purchased, both short and full length?

I tried burning Swing Parade with DVDFlick but after 5 or 6 hours, it fails. Plan 9 and Missile to the Moon each took about an hour, start to finish.

Unlike Plan 9, Missile to the Moon and numerous shorts, all of which I simply downloaded then burned with DVDFlick, Swing Parade forced me to go through an elaborate process involving downloading a tix file, downloading and installing and *registering* (WTF???) a piece of software that I don't want, then downloading the movie file from the DivX site (which took considerably longer than downloading movies from Rifftrax) and apparently now I have to go buy a whole new dvd player? (WTF again) (And then - I'm not sure - but I think I even have to go and register the *player* - triple WTF!?)

Thanks!
Title: Re: divx file format
Post by: torgosPizza on October 26, 2008, 02:41:33 PM
Yeah, sorry, it's a limitation of the old DivX VOD system that a few of our products are still using. In the next couple days we'll be moving all of them - including Swing Parade - to a DRM-free format. (The DivX "OVS" system, which Swing Parade is currently on, uses DRM to manage rights for rental and purchase... we admit that the system isn't quite right for us, which is why we are moving all of our VOD content to work without the OVS system.)

I know that's a lot of words, sorry - just bear with us a couple more days and you'll have a shiny new .divx file in your File Downloads list.. The reason why SP is currently not in your File Downloads list is because it's in the On Demand list, which is another tab that can be found in your account area.
Title: Re: divx file format
Post by: kitesarefun on October 26, 2008, 03:57:38 PM

I know that's a lot of words, sorry - just bear with us a couple more days and you'll have a shiny new .divx file in your File Downloads list..

K, sounds good. Thanks for letting me know. I can chill for a few days while this all gets sorted out, no prob.
Title: Re: divx file format
Post by: TVsAdam on May 04, 2009, 08:08:06 PM
I have a couple of VOD movies (Troll 2 and the 3-riffer edition of Plan 9) that are in divx format that I'm trying to convert so that I can put them on my iPod, which currently has all my Rifftrax stuff except these two things.  I like Plan 9 especially and am frustrated by my apparent inability to convert it.

For starters, the file is being read as quite a bit longer than it is (something like two to three hours), and whenever I finish a conversion the sound is OK but the video is a big jumbled mess of pixels and whatnot.

Anybody have any idea what I could be doing wrong?  Or even better, anyone try to do something similar and have it actually work?
Title: Re: divx file format
Post by: Conor on May 05, 2009, 11:47:02 AM
I can't offer any advice about conversion, but you should make sure you are not trying to use a (very) old copy of the file that still has Divx copy protection on it.  If it only plays in the Divx player, you can't convert it to anything, you'll have to redownload it from My Files.
Title: Re: divx file format
Post by: TVsAdam on May 05, 2009, 05:26:15 PM
Thanks Conor.  I downloaded both files right when they came out, I think, so maybe they've got DRM on them.  I'm going to try redownloading and reconverting, see if that helps.
Title: Re: divx file format
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