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Title: "V for Vendetta" needs to be riffed
Post by: darthvedder81 on October 31, 2006, 09:34:31 AM
It's just the kind of movie Mike hates: amoral, pretentious, ultra-violent, overrated and full of creepy and/or disturbing scenes.

The scene with Natalie Portman in the schoolgirl dress with the lecherous priest is offensive to Catholics (not to mention agnostics, atheiests, buddhists, muslims and sentient beings everywhere).
Title: Re: "V for Vendetta" needs to be riffed
Post by: Sharktopus on October 31, 2006, 09:45:06 AM
Yeah, we all know priests aren't interested in girls.

Sorry, just couldn't resist.
Title: Re: "V for Vendetta" needs to be riffed
Post by: Variety of Cells on October 31, 2006, 09:46:39 AM
I wouldn't be so fast to claim what Mike hates.  He might like it.

I'm not sure what he thinks, but I don't believe it's that violent.  There were only a couple scenes with fighting.  The movie had things in it that were amoral because it was trying to show how amoral the world is and that it needs to change.  It's hard to advocate change if you can't show what needs to be changed.  I'm not sure about pretentious, I always have trouble defining pretentious.  It might be overrated. 

How are agnostics, atheists, Buddhists, Muslims and sentient beings everywhere offended?  This movie wasn't promoting or damning any of them.  It seemed to be more about anarchy.  Anarchists might be offended a little if they don't agree with the film, but it's nothing compared to XXX.  And just because a movie offends people doesn't make it bad, or riffworthy.  If a movie has a message it's going to offended some one, unless the message is that 'puppies are cute'.  Even the message 'blacks are people too' offends the KKK.

But it sounds like you are just trying to stir up some trouble, so I'll end my rebuttal there. 
Title: Re: "V for Vendetta" needs to be riffed
Post by: tardoid7 on October 31, 2006, 09:59:35 AM
Yeah, we all know priests aren't interested in girls.

Sorry, just couldn't resist.

awesome reply... :D
Title: Re: "V for Vendetta" needs to be riffed
Post by: Cibernético II on October 31, 2006, 11:23:49 AM
agreed

I don't know if Mike hates it, but I sure did

"amoral, pretentious, ultra-violent, overrated and full of creepy and/or disturbing scenes"

that's pretty much exactly how I would describe it. The phrase eye-sore comes to mind when I think about this monstrocity
Title: Re: "V for Vendetta" needs to be riffed
Post by: SmilinJackRoss on October 31, 2006, 12:00:32 PM
Yeah, we all know priests aren't interested in girls.

Sorry, just couldn't resist.

signatured.
Title: Re: "V for Vendetta" needs to be riffed
Post by: darthvedder81 on October 31, 2006, 12:10:08 PM
By amoral I don't mean simply the deteriorated society that was shown in the film but the whole message of the movie was basically everything is relative including barbaric terrorist acts against civilians. V was neither "right" or "wrong" at any point in the story. I hate, hate, hate, hate, hate movies like that?moral ambiguity for the sake of moral ambiguity, no thanks.

I'd be willing to bet Mike hated it (if he even saw it). He hates amoral, "important" movies (ala "Crash").
Title: Re: "V for Vendetta" needs to be riffed
Post by: Variety of Cells on October 31, 2006, 01:01:55 PM
Well I didn't like crash, and I didn't love V for vendetta, but what's wrong with the message?  Why isn't everything relative?  Our society seems to embrace that. 

Please explain why you don't like moral ambiguity.  I might agree with you, I'm not sure. 
Title: Re: "V for Vendetta" needs to be riffed
Post by: Road_Element on October 31, 2006, 03:20:07 PM
Well any movie that show people riseing up against a fascist goverment is o.k. with me. Besides the Alan Moore's V for Vendetta is consider one of the best graphic novels of all time with the Watchmen and The Dark Knight Returns.
Title: Re: "V for Vendetta" needs to be riffed
Post by: ScottotD on October 31, 2006, 03:23:18 PM
ultra-violent? seriously?  We obviously watch a lot of different movies.

I don't see 'amoral' as a bad thing, the less movies trying to teach people lessons the better in my opinion.

I thought it was a great movie, slightly too glossy for my liking but still a lot more good than bad but I thoiught Crash was good too.

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The scene with Natalie Portman in the schoolgirl dress with the lecherous priest is offensive to Catholics (not to mention agnostics, atheiests, buddhists, muslims and sentient beings everywhere).

I thought it was funny myself, it's just a movie.
Title: Re: "V for Vendetta" needs to be riffed
Post by: BathTub on October 31, 2006, 04:47:06 PM
I thought it was a very good adaptation, except for the very end.

I can totally understand the simplification of the Intrigue and Backstabbing within the government, it's one of the prices you pay when going from a book to a film. I can also understand the change in the end, I think they felt they needed to show 'The People' taking back their country, rather than V becoming a figurehead for new way.  But I feel this loses a bit of the stories idea, that Evie was to be the Creation counterpoint of Anarchy to V's Destruction. And actually kind of makes her superfluous to the entire story.
Title: Re: "V for Vendetta" needs to be riffed
Post by: mrbasehart on October 31, 2006, 05:54:24 PM
I liked "V for Vendetta" too.  Erm...not much more I can add to that.   :)

I did however, watch the movie as a part of a "totalitarian state" movie day.  First it was V for Vendetta, then 1984, then Brazil and the, because I had no other decent movies to accompany them, Running Man.   ;D

Brazil is the best of the lot, though.
Title: Re: "V for Vendetta" needs to be riffed
Post by: Variety of Cells on October 31, 2006, 07:30:07 PM
I liked "V for Vendetta" too.  Erm...not much more I can add to that.   :)

I did however, watch the movie as a part of a "totalitarian state" movie day.  First it was V for Vendetta, then 1984, then Brazil and the, because I had no other decent movies to accompany them, Running Man.   ;D

Brazil is the best of the lot, though.

By far, by far. 
Title: Re: "V for Vendetta" needs to be riffed
Post by: SmilinJackRoss on November 01, 2006, 07:20:52 AM
I liked "V for Vendetta" too.  Erm...not much more I can add to that.   :)

I did however, watch the movie as a part of a "totalitarian state" movie day.  First it was V for Vendetta, then 1984, then Brazil and the, because I had no other decent movies to accompany them, Running Man.   ;D

Brazil is the best of the lot, though.

I love doing themed movie marathons like this.  The last time I did one we did all three Mad Max movies.  They're pretty bad, the first one is ok though.
Title: Re: "V for Vendetta" needs to be riffed
Post by: Cap'n UKRiffer on November 01, 2006, 07:33:14 AM
I love doing themed movie marathons like this.  The last time I did one we did all three Mad Max movies.  They're pretty bad, the first one is ok though.

Can't we just get beyond thunderdome?  ;D
Title: Re: "V for Vendetta" needs to be riffed
Post by: mrbasehart on November 01, 2006, 08:13:05 AM
I love doing themed movie marathons like this.  The last time I did one we did all three Mad Max movies.  They're pretty bad, the first one is ok though.

Can't we just get beyond thunderdome?  ;D

I think you've just disappointed 20 other people in this forum who wanted to post this.   :)
Title: Re: "V for Vendetta" needs to be riffed
Post by: Cap'n UKRiffer on November 01, 2006, 08:18:42 AM
I love doing themed movie marathons like this.  The last time I did one we did all three Mad Max movies.  They're pretty bad, the first one is ok though.

Can't we just get beyond thunderdome?  ;D

I think you've just disappointed 20 other people in this forum who wanted to post this.   :)

I know... but damn, was it worth it  ;)
Title: Re: "V for Vendetta" needs to be riffed
Post by: ScottotD on November 01, 2006, 04:24:47 PM
I liked "V for Vendetta" too.  Erm...not much more I can add to that.   :)

I did however, watch the movie as a part of a "totalitarian state" movie day.  First it was V for Vendetta, then 1984, then Brazil and the, because I had no other decent movies to accompany them, Running Man.   ;D

Brazil is the best of the lot, though.

I love doing themed movie marathons like this.  The last time I did one we did all three Mad Max movies.  They're pretty bad, the first one is ok though.

I will not have you bismirch Road Warrior.


...thunderdome suuuucked though.
Title: Re: "V for Vendetta" needs to be riffed
Post by: WouTar on November 01, 2006, 04:33:51 PM
Can't we just get BEYOND Thunderdome?
Title: Re: "V for Vendetta" needs to be riffed
Post by: Cap'n UKRiffer on November 01, 2006, 05:05:50 PM
Can't we just get BEYOND Thunderdome?


whoa, whoa, whoa... already used that joke :P

Bad WouTar
Title: Re: "V for Vendetta" needs to be riffed
Post by: PlayMSTie on November 01, 2006, 05:21:42 PM
It's just the kind of movie Mike hates: amoral, pretentious, ultra-violent, overrated and full of creepy and/or disturbing scenes.


Sounds perfect!  ;) I haven't seen it yet, but if that's true -- and I got that impression from the reviews -- then it's very riffable indeed.
Title: Re: "V for Vendetta" needs to be riffed
Post by: Sharktopus on November 02, 2006, 05:18:51 AM
Yeah, we all know priests aren't interested in girls.

Sorry, just couldn't resist.

signatured.

I hope I've said more interesting and witty things than that here. It was late and I was getting grumpy. But I am honored to star in two separate posters' signatures.
Title: Re: "V for Vendetta" needs to be riffed
Post by: IronPigeon on November 07, 2006, 10:24:10 AM
What really aggrivated me about V was that Alan Moore, the guy who created the graphic novel, got no credit whatsoever in the film. Apparently, he had a bit of a falling out with DC.
Title: Re: "V for Vendetta" needs to be riffed
Post by: Ivan Druzhkov on November 07, 2006, 10:53:56 AM
What really aggrivated me about V was that Alan Moore, the guy who created the graphic novel, got no credit whatsoever in the film. Apparently, he had a bit of a falling out with DC.
IIRC, he asked the studio to withhold his credit (http://www.comicon.com/thebeat/2006/03/a_for_alan_pt_1_the_alan_moore.html).  Considering the changes that were made to the story from comic to movie form, it's not surprising.  Old Mr. Moore, for  (and probably because of) all his talent, is pretty much the typical Insufferable Artist, and isn't that fond of people he doesn't aprovve of playing with his toys.

Personally, I had a lot of problems with the movie (as detailed in an earlier post (http://rifftrax.com/smf/index.php?topic=113.msg4851#msg4851)), so I wouldn't mind it getting Riffed.
Title: Re: "V for Vendetta" needs to be riffed
Post by: BathTub on November 07, 2006, 11:18:40 AM
Yeah he asked for it to be removed. As much as he is a good writer, he also seems to be a bit of an old coot!  ;D

*says the guy waiting for his order of Lost Girls to arrive*
Title: Re: "V for Vendetta" needs to be riffed
Post by: Sharktopus on November 07, 2006, 04:34:22 PM
Yeah he asked for it to be removed. As much as he is a good writer, he also seems to be a bit of an old coot!  ;D

Just a bit:
(http://www.universohq.com/quadrinhos/2005/imagens/alan_moore.jpg)
Title: Re: "V for Vendetta" needs to be riffed
Post by: Minnesota on November 07, 2006, 04:43:11 PM
not sure Mike knows enough Guy Fox jokes, but then again I don't either... maybe riffing this one should be left to the brits
Title: Re: "V for Vendetta" needs to be riffed
Post by: Cibernético II on November 07, 2006, 06:28:47 PM
yeah Alan Moore just nearly out-Rob Zombies Rob Zombie, whom out-Al Jourgensened Al Jourgensen back in the early 90's
Title: Re: "V for Vendetta" needs to be riffed
Post by: Maverick Joe Six-Pack on April 19, 2008, 09:20:42 AM
It's just the kind of movie Mike hates: amoral, pretentious, ultra-violent, overrated and full of creepy and/or disturbing scenes.

The scene with Natalie Portman in the schoolgirl dress with the lecherous priest is offensive to Catholics (not to mention agnostics, atheiests, buddhists, muslims and sentient beings everywhere).

How could anything but hilarity follow?
Title: Re: "V for Vendetta" needs to be riffed
Post by: BathTub on April 19, 2008, 03:17:29 PM
The whole deal with the priest is one of the least altered elements from the book.
Title: Re: "V for Vendetta" needs to be riffed
Post by: defaultchoice on April 28, 2008, 03:49:23 AM
I'd watch this rifftrax. I enjoyed the movie for what it was, but when a rifftrax comes out for it as well? It's like two birds with one piece of bacon...
Title: Re: "V for Vendetta" needs to be riffed
Post by: TheHumanDuplicator on May 19, 2008, 05:12:11 PM
v for vendetta was just a masterpiece.
Title: Re: "V for Vendetta" needs to be riffed
Post by: darthvedder81 on June 18, 2008, 07:58:46 PM
v for vendetta was just a masterpiece.

Yes it was--a masterpiece of crap!
Title: Re: "V for Vendetta" needs to be riffed
Post by: ScottotD on June 18, 2008, 08:20:03 PM
Nice one Mr. Wilde
Title: Re: "V for Vendetta" needs to be riffed
Post by: Dim of the Yard on June 18, 2008, 08:24:14 PM
Can a mod perhaps merge this topic with the one I started last May?:

http://forum.rifftrax.com/index.php/topic,3420.msg91336.html#msg91336

Only to keep things relatively clean on this board and... well, heck, I'm a little bit proud of that parody speech in the opening post and want to show it off.
Title: Re: "V for Vendetta" needs to be riffed
Post by: RobtheBarbarian on June 18, 2008, 08:26:38 PM
v for vendetta was just a masterpiece.

Yes it was--a masterpiece of crap!

(http://www.drawnandquarterly.com/blog/uploaded_images/JMH-508_2401676~Waldorf-and-Statler-Posters-771789.jpg)

Do-ha-ha-ha-ha!
Title: Re: "V for Vendetta" needs to be riffed
Post by: ScottotD on June 18, 2008, 08:31:24 PM
I'm still confused by the claims of 'ultraviolence' and it being 'anti-US/Bush/etc' on either thread.
Title: Re: "V for Vendetta" needs to be riffed
Post by: Shadowbolt on June 18, 2008, 08:52:18 PM
I'm still confused by the claims of 'ultraviolence' and it being 'anti-US/Bush/etc' on either thread.

Don't bother trying to understand. Pretty much EVERY movie gets those accusations.