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Title: Plan 9 from outer space?
Post by: Zardoz! on November 10, 2007, 11:19:05 PM
Did MST3K ever do Plan 6 from outer space? Has anyone really riffed that or is it just too easy?
Title: Re: Plan 9 from outer space?
Post by: torgosPizza on November 10, 2007, 11:21:12 PM
Uhhhh.

http://shop.rifftrax.com/dvds/plan-9-outer-space-signed-dvd
Title: Re: Plan 9 from outer space?
Post by: RoninFox on November 11, 2007, 04:23:31 AM
Every now and then, it's great to get an easy question to answer.  Isn't that right Torgos?
Title: Re: Plan 9 from outer space?
Post by: Petey Wheatstraw on November 11, 2007, 08:41:40 AM
Hey, I know what would be a good movie to riff: ROAD HOUSE! Has anyone done that yet, or is it just too easy? ;D ;)
Title: Re: Plan 9 from outer space?
Post by: MasterChief on November 11, 2007, 08:55:43 AM
troll 2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Plan 9 from outer space?
Post by: Darth Geek on November 11, 2007, 10:23:03 AM
Actually, the Plan 9 from Outer Space was a Legend release, which are more informational, and less like real MST3K or Rifftrax type of things. If they were to do a proper Rifftrax for it, I think that would be great. But back in the MST3K days they went on the record as saying they didn't want to do that one.
Title: Re: Plan 9 from outer space?
Post by: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on November 11, 2007, 11:09:22 AM
I believe Joel Hodgson once said that Plan 9 was too easy or too obvious a choice so they never wanted to try it.

The Legend disc is as close as you're going to get.  And it's hardly "informational".

Every time Nelson mentions Lugosi being addicted to heroin, I want to slug him.  Lugosi became addicted to morphine when he was wounded in battle in Hungary.  He tried to kick that by going to England to try a new thing called Methadone...then becoming addicted to that.  His wife at the time helped him get off that .  She divorced him and he relapsed back to the morphine.  That's when he went into an asylum to be cured "cold turkey".  Lugosi was drug free when the footage used in the movie was shot and until his death.

Yeah, I know....   :deadhorse:   But it pisses me off.  Especially since there were plenty of other actors using drugs like Lugosi - some not because they were injured first - but were never as up front about it as he was at the end.

BTW, if you want to know what movies they did and didn't do, check out Daddy-O's Drive-In Dirt (http://www.mst3kinfo.com/daddyo/index.html) over at Satellite News.
Title: Re: Plan 9 from outer space?
Post by: Zardoz! on November 11, 2007, 02:21:32 PM
I believe Joel Hodgson once said that Plan 9 was too easy or too obvious a choice so they never wanted to try it.

The Legend disc is as close as you're going to get.  And it's hardly "informational".

Every time Nelson mentions Lugosi being addicted to heroin, I want to slug him.  Lugosi became addicted to morphine when he was wounded in battle in Hungary.  He tried to kick that by going to England to try a new thing called Methadone...then becoming addicted to that.  His wife at the time helped him get off that .  She divorced him and he relapsed back to the morphine.  That's when he went into an asylum to be cured "cold turkey".  Lugosi was drug free when the footage used in the movie was shot and until his death.

Yeah, I know....   :deadhorse:   But it pisses me off.  Especially since there were plenty of other actors using drugs like Lugosi - some not because they were injured first - but were never as up front about it as he was at the end.

BTW, if you want to know what movies they did and didn't do, check out Daddy-O's Drive-In Dirt (http://www.mst3kinfo.com/daddyo/index.html) over at Satellite News.

It's a little weird that they wouldn't bust on P9FOS for being too easy, but they bust on a lot of cheap godzilla movies. I mean how easy are they?
Title: Re: Plan 9 from outer space?
Post by: RoninFox on November 11, 2007, 03:14:34 PM
I believe Joel Hodgson once said that Plan 9 was too easy or too obvious a choice so they never wanted to try it.

The Legend disc is as close as you're going to get.  And it's hardly "informational".

Every time Nelson mentions Lugosi being addicted to heroin, I want to slug him.  Lugosi became addicted to morphine when he was wounded in battle in Hungary.  He tried to kick that by going to England to try a new thing called Methadone...then becoming addicted to that.  His wife at the time helped him get off that .  She divorced him and he relapsed back to the morphine.  That's when he went into an asylum to be cured "cold turkey".  Lugosi was drug free when the footage used in the movie was shot and until his death.

Yeah, I know....   :deadhorse:   But it pisses me off.  Especially since there were plenty of other actors using drugs like Lugosi - some not because they were injured first - but were never as up front about it as he was at the end.

BTW, if you want to know what movies they did and didn't do, check out Daddy-O's Drive-In Dirt (http://www.mst3kinfo.com/daddyo/index.html) over at Satellite News.

It's a little weird that they wouldn't bust on P9FOS for being too easy, but they bust on a lot of cheap godzilla movies. I mean how easy are they?

True enough.  When did Joel say that about Plan 9 though?  It might have been something he realized as he'd done a few episodes.  The old Godzilla movies were mostly toward the beginning of the series if I remember right.
Title: Re: Plan 9 from outer space?
Post by: Clicky on November 30, 2007, 01:48:03 PM
Uhhhh.

http://shop.rifftrax.com/dvds/plan-9-outer-space-signed-dvd

also...

http://shop.rifftrax.com/rifftrax/plan-9-outer-space
Title: Re: Plan 9 from outer space?
Post by: Insert Coin(s) to Continue on November 30, 2007, 02:50:05 PM
I believe Joel Hodgson once said that Plan 9 was too easy or too obvious a choice so they never wanted to try it.

The Legend disc is as close as you're going to get.  And it's hardly "informational".

Every time Nelson mentions Lugosi being addicted to heroin, I want to slug him.  Lugosi became addicted to morphine when he was wounded in battle in Hungary.  He tried to kick that by going to England to try a new thing called Methadone...then becoming addicted to that.  His wife at the time helped him get off that .  She divorced him and he relapsed back to the morphine.  That's when he went into an asylum to be cured "cold turkey".  Lugosi was drug free when the footage used in the movie was shot and until his death.

Yeah, I know....   :deadhorse:   But it pisses me off.  Especially since there were plenty of other actors using drugs like Lugosi - some not because they were injured first - but were never as up front about it as he was at the end.

BTW, if you want to know what movies they did and didn't do, check out Daddy-O's Drive-In Dirt (http://www.mst3kinfo.com/daddyo/index.html) over at Satellite News.

It's a little weird that they wouldn't bust on P9FOS for being too easy, but they bust on a lot of cheap godzilla movies. I mean how easy are they?

True enough.  When did Joel say that about Plan 9 though?  It might have been something he realized as he'd done a few episodes.  The old Godzilla movies were mostly toward the beginning of the series if I remember right.
MST3K only did two Godzilla movies -- Godzilla vs. the Sea Monster and Godzilla vs. Megalon. They did quite a number of Gamera movies (5 or so, if I remember correctly), which is similar. The Godzilla movies were done in season 2 and the Gamera movies in season 3.

As for the movie being too easy -- from an audience's perspective, I really don't care. Gamera vs. Guiron is my all time favorite MST3K episode to this date. Sure it may have been easy, but that didn't keep it from being any less funny. I'd really like to see a giant monster RiffTrax *cough Gamera: Guardian of the Universe cough* and perhaps something older to bring us back to the good ol' days like Godzilla vs. Monster Zero.
Title: Re: Plan 9 from outer space?
Post by: vanhagar3000 on December 01, 2007, 06:10:01 PM
MST never did it because it had too much dialouge and narration. I tried once to do a fanvid, but realized that the episode wouldn't flow right.
Title: Re: Plan 9 from outer space?
Post by: mrbasehart on December 02, 2007, 07:20:08 AM
Didn't they buy the rights to all the Gamera movies in bulk or something? I'm guessing that was another reason why they decided to do so many.
Title: Re: Plan 9 from outer space?
Post by: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on December 02, 2007, 08:16:20 AM
Didn't they buy the rights to all the Gamera movies in bulk or something? I'm guessing that was another reason why they decided to do so many.
Back then - and probably still today - movies were sold to television stations in "bulk packages" by syndicators.  And they did it like they do - for instance - those 007 DVD movie sets:  a one or two really good ones put into a set along with several "weak sisters" people wouldn't buy if they were on their own.

If KTMA wanted to get a ST: The Wrath of Khan (just as an example), they had to take it in a package with quite a few "Fugitive Alien"s.  So all of those Gamera films probably were in a package with a bunch of movies KTMA really wanted.  Supposedly that's what inspired Joel and Jim Mallon - Mallon telling him about all of these dog movies they were stuck with....

Television syndicators did this with "Star Trek: The Next Generation".   The first seasons you had to take "Monsters", "War of the Worlds", "Tales of the Darkside" and a couple others.  When "Deep Space Nine" came out you took both for a certain price - or you just took TNG alone for the same price.  And rather than have them sell DS9 to a competitor, it was worth your while to have Trek monopolized.

Now they do it with Oprah (can't get that without taking Dr. Phil) and the Judge shows.

Thing is, there's nothing in the contracts that say you have to show the "weak sisters" at all.  But all the shows come with pre-sold commercials that have to be shown even if the shows they're connected to bomb.  So rather than spending money on a better show and having to use the commercial time to show spots they won't get paid for, they just fill the time with the "weak" show.

(If you ever wondered how some of these shows get on the air and stay there - or get bumped to running in the wee small hours of the morning - instead of them finding something good to broadcast).
Title: Re: Plan 9 from outer space?
Post by: mrbasehart on December 02, 2007, 12:25:31 PM
Huh.  That's quite interesting, cheers Duck!
Title: Re: Plan 9 from outer space?
Post by: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on December 02, 2007, 12:44:21 PM
Huh.  That's quite interesting, cheers Duck!

And you thought it was just a coincidence that the same channel that had "Hercules" and "Xena" had "Beastmaster" and "Cleopatra 2525", huh?   ;)
Title: Re: Plan 9 from outer space?
Post by: RoninFox on December 02, 2007, 02:45:46 PM
That does make more sense out of the night schedule, that's for damn sure.  As someone who works nights and is at the mercy of network tv to find anything entertaining while on my lunch break I've seen a lot of crap.  Then I discovered one of them shows Scrubs at 1:30.  I was amazed!   ;D
Title: Re: Plan 9 from outer space?
Post by: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on December 02, 2007, 02:53:44 PM
That does make more sense out of the night schedule, that's for damn sure.  As someone who works nights and is at the mercy of network tv to find anything entertaining while on my lunch break I've seen a lot of crap.  Then I discovered one of them shows Scrubs at 1:30.  I was amazed!   ;D

Where I live, the latest example of that is the talk show that that guy who wrote "He's Just Not That Into You" got....

It played at 10am for awhile but then it got moved to 2am until the contract ran out (I guess).....

Another offshoot of this is when it comes to Oprah...she evidently even commands what time of the day she's on.  Our local CBS has the show and they show it at 4pm - despite the oldest running soap of all time, "Guiding Light" being on the network at that hour.   Instead they record "Guiding Light" and show it at 10am the next day (Friday's cliffhanger shows Monday morning!) because Oprah must be shown at 4pm..
Title: Re: Plan 9 from outer space?
Post by: mrbasehart on December 02, 2007, 03:22:38 PM
Huh.  That's quite interesting, cheers Duck!

And you thought it was just a coincidence that the same channel that had "Hercules" and "Xena" had "Beastmaster" and "Cleopatra 2525", huh?   ;)


It's Bravo over here.  :)
Title: Re: Plan 9 from outer space?
Post by: bratpop on December 06, 2007, 08:40:59 PM
Weak Sisters would be a wicked awesome band name.

And Plan 9 isn't easy to riff, it's just that everybody in the universe has already riffed it themselves.

When are they gonna do that missing Gamera movie?