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Title: No More Daily Show until the writer's strike ends!!!!
Post by: bettertomorrowamy on November 02, 2007, 11:33:48 AM
This is terrible news!

If you watched thursday night's show, John explains that there will be no show until the writers come back!
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Post by: kodiakthejuggler on November 02, 2007, 11:36:14 AM
Oh darn.

Just kill me now.

::)
Title: Re: No More Daily Show until the writer's strike ends!!!!
Post by: Sideswipe on November 02, 2007, 12:05:22 PM
What about the Colbert Report??
Title: Re: No More Daily Show until the writer's strike ends!!!!
Post by: bettertomorrowamy on November 02, 2007, 12:07:57 PM
Not sure, I haven't watched his last show yet.
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Post by: BathTub on November 02, 2007, 12:20:19 PM
weird, last I heard they weren't going to strike straight away.
Title: Re: No More Daily Show until the writer's strike ends!!!!
Post by: mrbasehart on November 02, 2007, 01:26:07 PM
There wasn't a mention of the writer's strike on the Colbert Report, but perhaps because that show is "kayfabe" he would have a different excuse.  John Stewart did advertise www.thedailyshow.com (http://www.thedailyshow.com) though, which has every single sequence from the John Stewart era of The Daily Show available for free.
Title: Re: No More Daily Show until the writer's strike ends!!!!
Post by: RoninFox on November 02, 2007, 01:32:16 PM
 :o  Crap.  I had no idea they'd be affected like this, I usually can't watch the Daily Show or Colbert until the weekend when my DVR gets filled up.  Here's hoping this strike gets resolved quick.
Title: Re: No More Daily Show until the writer's strike ends!!!!
Post by: bettertomorrowamy on November 02, 2007, 01:39:44 PM
There wasn't a mention of the writer's strike on the Colbert Report, but perhaps because that show is "kayfabe" he would have a different excuse.  John Stewart did advertise www.thedailyshow.com (http://www.thedailyshow.com) though, which has every single sequence from the John Stewart era of The Daily Show available for free.

And this is the kind of content that the writers want to get more money for.
Title: Re: No More Daily Show until the writer's strike ends!!!!
Post by: pyro on November 02, 2007, 02:21:45 PM
Is this just the writers of the Daily Show or is it some general strike?  I don't know what specifically the writers of the Daily Show would be striking about since their job seems pretty easy not coming up with much original material in the past 5 years
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Post by: RoninFox on November 02, 2007, 02:26:58 PM
Is this just the writers of the Daily Show or is it some general strike?  I don't know what specifically the writers of the Daily Show would be striking about since their job seems pretty easy not coming up with much original material in the past 5 years

This is a huge writers strike that's affecting all of Hollywood.
Title: Re: No More Daily Show until the writer's strike ends!!!!
Post by: bettertomorrowamy on November 02, 2007, 02:33:40 PM
Is this just the writers of the Daily Show or is it some general strike?  I don't know what specifically the writers of the Daily Show would be striking about since their job seems pretty easy not coming up with much original material in the past 5 years

This is a huge writers strike that's affecting all of Hollywood.

It's the whole Writer's Guild, but your reality shows are safe, thank God.
Title: Re: No More Daily Show until the writer's strike ends!!!!
Post by: RoninFox on November 02, 2007, 03:14:49 PM
Is this just the writers of the Daily Show or is it some general strike?  I don't know what specifically the writers of the Daily Show would be striking about since their job seems pretty easy not coming up with much original material in the past 5 years

This is a huge writers strike that's affecting all of Hollywood.

It's the whole Writer's Guild, but your reality shows are safe, thank God.

Meh, haven't watched a reality show since the original Joe Schmo Show.
Title: Re: No More Daily Show until the writer's strike ends!!!!
Post by: ambitiously stupid on November 02, 2007, 03:19:37 PM
is Rifftrax going to be affected by this?  I'm sure Mike is probably a part of the writers union.
Title: Re: No More Daily Show until the writer's strike ends!!!!
Post by: RoninFox on November 02, 2007, 03:22:06 PM
is Rifftrax going to be affected by this?  I'm sure Mike is probably a part of the writers union.

I've heard one of the stipulations of the strike allows writers to create material for their own use.  Mike would be free to write for his own project.  Actually since Jon Stewart is a writer/performer on the Daily Show this would also allow HIM to write the show for himself, but likely he's not going to as a sign of support for the rest of the team.
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Post by: BathTub on November 02, 2007, 03:25:43 PM
No this is TV and Film script writing, not a generic writing strike.
Title: Re: No More Daily Show until the writer's strike ends!!!!
Post by: Cibernético II on November 02, 2007, 03:39:07 PM
that sucks. Rather upsetting actually.
Title: Re: No More Daily Show until the writer's strike ends!!!!
Post by: BathTub on November 02, 2007, 04:51:07 PM
Ok, just saw the article on Drudge, strike starts on Monday.
Title: Re: No More Daily Show until the writer's strike ends!!!!
Post by: bettertomorrowamy on November 02, 2007, 05:16:10 PM
Is this just the writers of the Daily Show or is it some general strike?  I don't know what specifically the writers of the Daily Show would be striking about since their job seems pretty easy not coming up with much original material in the past 5 years

This is a huge writers strike that's affecting all of Hollywood.

It's the whole Writer's Guild, but your reality shows are safe, thank God.

Meh, haven't watched a reality show since the original Joe Schmo Show.

I was being sarcastic.  I would rather hump a pumpkin than watch that crap.
Title: Re: No More Daily Show until the writer's strike ends!!!!
Post by: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on November 02, 2007, 06:11:49 PM
Hmmm.....The Daily Show has to shut down because it consists of creative writing based on the day's news.

So, doesn't that mean that Fox (False) News should shut down all together?
Title: Re: No More Daily Show until the writer's strike ends!!!!
Post by: RVR II on November 02, 2007, 06:37:15 PM
It'll Become..
(http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h275/rvr2/02/foxnews.gif) :D :D
Title: Re: No More Daily Show until the writer's strike ends!!!!
Post by: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on November 02, 2007, 07:08:36 PM
It'll Become..
(http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h275/rvr2/02/foxnews.gif) :D :D

Become?
Title: Re: No More Daily Show until the writer's strike ends!!!!
Post by: RVR II on November 02, 2007, 07:11:01 PM
Become?
OK.. It's Been There.. ::)
Title: Re: No More Daily Show until the writer's strike ends!!!!
Post by: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on November 02, 2007, 07:26:43 PM
Become?
OK.. It's Been There.. ::)

 :D
Title: Re: No More Daily Show until the writer's strike ends!!!!
Post by: ambitiously stupid on November 02, 2007, 11:45:05 PM
No this is TV and Film script writing, not a generic writing strike.

I thought it was a generic writing strike and that everyone posting here was crossing the picket line. ;)  Rifftrax is associated with Legend films.  Exactly what the relationship is with Mike I do not know.  However,  Rifftrax is a show that gets produced for a film company.   Mike I'm sure given his TV writing credits is a member of the TV writers guild.   I don't think it is that far-fetched a question to ask.  This could also hurt Cinematic Titanic, because they are apparently writing DVD commentaries for a film company.    My guess is it is not slowing down Rifftrax,  simply because there has been no statement made about it.   Therefore, internet shows do not apply.
Title: Re: No More Daily Show until the writer's strike ends!!!!
Post by: RoninFox on November 03, 2007, 01:18:50 AM
No this is TV and Film script writing, not a generic writing strike.

I thought it was a generic writing strike and that everyone posting here was crossing the picket line. ;)  Rifftrax is associated with Legend films.  Exactly what the relationship is with Mike I do not know.  However,  Rifftrax is a show that gets produced for a film company.   Mike I'm sure given his TV writing credits is a member of the TV writers guild.   I don't think it is that far-fetched a question to ask.  This could also hurt Cinematic Titanic, because they are apparently writing DVD commentaries for a film company.    My guess is it is not slowing down Rifftrax,  simply because there has been no statement made about it.   Therefore, internet shows do not apply.

Again, if writers are able to produce material for their own projects, which I believe is the case, then CT shouldn't be negatively affected.  I think their large strong cast of riffers can handle the script demands.
Title: Re: No More Daily Show until the writer's strike ends!!!!
Post by: Taufiq2u on November 03, 2007, 01:25:09 AM
While The Daily Show is on writer's strike i suggest you to look for foreign and YouTube Alternatives:

-The Chaser's War on Everything (Australia, ABC)

-Charlie Brooker's Screenwipe (UK, BBC)

-Time Trumpet (UK, BBC)

-WHATTHEBUCK (USA, YouTube)

-Nathan Barley Season 2 (UK, Channel 4)

Check these out or you can google for other satire alternatives.
Title: Re: No More Daily Show until the writer's strike ends!!!!
Post by: Tripe on November 03, 2007, 09:08:50 AM
-Nathan Barley Season 2 (UK, Channel 4)

Wait they actually made it? What's it like?
Title: Re: No More Daily Show until the writer's strike ends!!!!
Post by: Taufiq2u on November 03, 2007, 09:18:11 AM
-Nathan Barley Season 2 (UK, Channel 4)

Wait they actually made it? What's it like?

Chris Morris announces at Bournemouth University that there'd be a Season 2 of NB in early '08.
Title: Re: No More Daily Show until the writer's strike ends!!!!
Post by: Mr.Nobody on November 03, 2007, 09:19:00 AM
Well, thats a bummer.

Hopefully the strike ends quick. 
Title: Re: No More Daily Show until the writer's strike ends!!!!
Post by: Tripe on November 03, 2007, 09:20:31 AM
-Nathan Barley Season 2 (UK, Channel 4)

Wait they actually made it? What's it like?

Chris Morris announces at Bournemouth University that there'd be a Season 2 of NB in early '08.

Ah ok I'd heard something like that, I thought there was perhaps more. Hopefully there will be.
Title: Re: No More Daily Show until the writer's strike ends!!!!
Post by: Hebs on November 03, 2007, 10:12:01 AM
I'm sorry to sound lame, but could someone explain to me in very plain terms exactly what the strike is about?  What the writers want to gain, etc..
Title: Re: No More Daily Show until the writer's strike ends!!!!
Post by: Tripe on November 03, 2007, 10:17:58 AM
They want a greater cut of the profits from the sales of DVD box sets of TV Shows. There are other concerns but that seems to be the straw that broke the camels back.
Title: Re: No More Daily Show until the writer's strike ends!!!!
Post by: Hebs on November 03, 2007, 10:19:29 AM
They want a greater cut of the profits from the sales of DVD box sets of TV Shows. There are other concerns but that seems to be the straw that cut the camels back.

I heard your voice clip on the other thread.  Now I can hear you saying that ;)
Title: Re: No More Daily Show until the writer's strike ends!!!!
Post by: Tripe on November 03, 2007, 10:22:26 AM
So do I sound like I write?
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Post by: RVR II on November 03, 2007, 10:23:07 AM
So do I sound like I write?
You write Worse! :D :D :D
Title: Re: No More Daily Show until the writer's strike ends!!!!
Post by: Hebs on November 03, 2007, 10:27:20 AM
So do I sound like I write?

Well, I've never heard anyone write "straw that cut the camel's back" with such a nice accent. 
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Post by: Tripe on November 03, 2007, 10:29:46 AM
So do I sound like I write?
You write Worse! :D :D :D

http://www.divshare.com/flash/audio?myId=2619681-3ea :)
Title: Re: No More Daily Show until the writer's strike ends!!!!
Post by: RVR II on November 03, 2007, 10:32:09 AM
I Can't view/click what you posted Tripe.. ???

OK.. It Came through after refreshing about 10 times ( :grr: )
 No No.. Typing them will do Just Fine.. ::)  ;D
Title: Re: No More Daily Show until the writer's strike ends!!!!
Post by: Tripe on November 03, 2007, 10:35:23 AM
Damn and blast it! Ok anyone know of a good audio file hosting site that won't give me these troubles?

Here it is (http://www.divshare.com/download/2619681-3ea)
Title: Re: No More Daily Show until the writer's strike ends!!!!
Post by: RVR II on November 03, 2007, 10:37:46 AM
Damn and blast it! Ok anyone know of a good audio file hosting site that won't give me these troubles?

Here it is (http://www.divshare.com/download/2619681-3ea)
Let me know if you get that fixed.. That Might make for some interesting 'Vocal Responces' for others to try out.. :D :D
Title: Re: No More Daily Show until the writer's strike ends!!!!
Post by: BathTub on November 03, 2007, 11:36:33 AM
Ok here is a summary from the WGA (http://wga.org/subpage_member.aspx?id=2478).

Here are a couple of posts that JMS (Babylon 5, Jeremiah, The Changeling) wrote, that may answer a couple of questions

Quote
Let me jump in here for a second to try and turn the discussion a bit,
in that the situation as it affects writers is vastly different than
in any other union.

First, to the non- or anti-union folks, a question: when you go into a
book store to buy a copy of a novel by your favorite author, do you
mind that roughly twelve percent of the price of that book goes to the
author? Or do you feel that he's entitled to that royalty?

Most folks, I would suggest, are totally okay with that idea. They
wrote the book, the publisher published the book, they're both
entitled to get something back from the publishing of it. That seems
only fair.

The situation with the WGA is really no different. It's a way of
ensuring that artists -- who live in a very different world than the
9-5 universe everybody else lives in -- receive some regular form of
compensation to keep them alive and solvent during the often very long
periods of time required to create the next thing.

Leaving off such catastrophic events as being laid off or fired...most
people go to work every day in expectation of a paycheck that will
come regularly. Writers don't. They get paid when they a) write, b)
finish what they write, and c) someone decides to *pay* for what
they've written.

It's not uncommon for writers to go a year, two years, even longer
without working in their chosen field. Doesn't matter who you are.
After William Goldman won his first Oscar, he didn't work again for
almost five years.

The royalties formula in books, and the residuals formula in tv/film,
is all that allows writers to keep doing what they're in the period
when they're *writing* and not *selling*. Take that away, and many of
the works of literature and film that we've come to enjoy would not
exist because the writers involved would not have been able to create
them, they would've been forced to go out and seek employment
elsewhere.

Prose writers have the authors' guild or SFWA or other organizations
that watchdog publishers and provide assistance and information on
royalties, contracts, health insurance and the like.

TV/film writers have the WGA, which is a much more complex
organization because the permutations and ways in which monies can be
hidden, and by which revenue streams are delivered, are all massively
more complex.

There was a time, back in the 30s and 40s, when writers got nothing
more than a script fee for their work, even though it might take a
year or more to write that script. And a lot of talented writers fell
by the wayside. The creation of the WGA changed that and brought into
par with the prose writers whose royalties you would seem to feel are
right and proper.

And those can't be negotiated person-by-person because the studios see
us as individually replaceable. Only collectively can there be any
impact.

I've had my problems with the WGA over the years, some of them have
become nearly legendary with the WGA. But if the WGA did not exist,
there would be no way for most writers to survive doing what they love
to do.

As to this coming labor action, when you go into the store next and
buy a DVD and a book, look at the two of them and know that the author
of the book gets a full twelve to fifteen percent of the price...and
the author of the DVD gets, *at most* four cents per DVD, and most of
the time literally and absolutely *nothing* for it...and ask yourself,
"Why the difference?"

That's the question at hand at the WGA as well.

jms


Quote
Assuming you're actually interested in a conversation rather than
staking out territory....

On Oct 21, 4:19 pm, "Lance Corporal \"Hammer\" Schultz"
<starf...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Book and movies are very different. Books don't involve talent from
> hundreds or thousands of creators.
>

This is not a true statement. Books involve publishers, editors,
assistant editors, proofreaders, typesetters, publicists, art
directors, photographers, and a host of others, all of whom in their
way "create" the book being purchased.

And in TV/film, the actors and directors who create the work are also
able to participate in the same kind of royalty as a book writer.

> I'm all for royalties -- I earn them myself. But the studio is the
> entity taking on the risk of a project not achieving profitability.

Also not true. A writer can invest years into a project and his whole
livelihood is based on how that project goes. Studios front dozens of
projects each year, and can write off the losses on one project
against the profits on another. They do not take all of the risk.

> I wonder how many writers are willing to share the investment
> consequences of a failed project with the studio?

But this is what residuals and royalties ARE. They are deferred
compensation that only kicks in if the show succeeds. In other words,
the writer IS sharing the risk. If the show succeeds, then by
residuals they share in the profit. If the show tanks, then the time
they spent working on it dead-ends with no further compensation.

> Keep in mind that the studio has to show profit and loss to
> shareholders, and people go to jail if they lie about those things
> now. If they're reporting profit on a movie to shareholders and a
> loss to you as a writer, then they should be taken to court.
>

You're talking apples and oranges. There's the profit a studio makes
on a project in toto, and what it makes on the books for the writers.
When you sign a deal for a share of the profits, all but a very few
writers get a piece of the net...but the formula used in determining
what that net is, in other ways what point the project achieves
profitability, can be worked to show no profit *for purposes of that
deal*.

I have a share of the net profits of B5. But by the terms of the deal
that was made, WB takes 60% of all monies in overhead, and can charge
almost anything they want against profits. If a stage used on some
other WB project being shot in Bolivia burns down, they can charge it
against B5. Consequently, B5 has never shown a profit even though
it's made half a billion dollars just in DVD sales, leavinng out
foreign sales, syndication, merchandising and so on.

And yes, individual writers can sue the studios, and never work
again. That's why you need someone who can bargain collectively.

But residuals aren't based on net profit, they're based on a formula
that says you get x-percent of the original fee for the first x-number
of runs, then it drops for the next x-number of runs, then eventually
it runs out altogether. The studios have been saying they want to
reduce or eliminate residuals. That can't stand.

> If the WGA succeeds in forcing studios to pay more than they think
> writing is worth, or force the studios to take on even more risk
> during investment than they already do, then the end result is
> predictable: fewer and fewer executives will be will to take chances
> on projects they don't *know* will turn profit. In the end, this will
> make Hollywood even more formulaic and boring.
>

Also not correct. Studios must turn out x-number of films per year,
and x-number of TV shows per year, to continue their revenue stream.
And the amount of money being paid to writers is ridiculously small by
comparison to what's paid to actors and directors. Nobody is asking
for big increases in writers fees, only to *not* have them
*decreased*. It's quite literally small change by comparison.

Top-level A writers can earn as much as 500K-1M on a script (and there
are only about a hundred writers who fit that category). Actors can
make up to ten million per movie, plus a piece of the gross, and many
directors get deals in the middle fo that. Even if you doubled what's
paid to writers, it would have no significant effect on the output.

jms
Title: Re: No More Daily Show until the writer's strike ends!!!!
Post by: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on November 03, 2007, 12:09:09 PM
Ok here is a summary from the WGA (http://wga.org/subpage_member.aspx?id=2478).

Here are a couple of posts that JMS (Babylon 5, Jeremiah, The Changeling) wrote, that may answer a couple of questions...

If JMS is for it, it's a good idea.
Title: Re: No More Daily Show until the writer's strike ends!!!!
Post by: Pak-Man on November 03, 2007, 12:12:07 PM
It just dawned on me:

A writers strike means there are a lot of very funny potential guest riffers with nothing better to do. :^)
Title: Re: No More Daily Show until the writer's strike ends!!!!
Post by: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on November 03, 2007, 12:21:01 PM
It just dawned on me:

A writers strike means there are a lot of very funny potential guest riffers with nothing better to do. :^)
Except they or someone would have to write their riffs....
Title: Re: No More Daily Show until the writer's strike ends!!!!
Post by: RoninFox on November 03, 2007, 02:09:23 PM
That's about what I thought this was about, and those posts make a hell of a lot of sense.  The writers do deserve a real good piece of the pie, and here's hoping they get it.  If things change for the better the way I buy dvds can feed quite a few families.
Title: Re: No More Daily Show until the writer's strike ends!!!!
Post by: Fuzzy Necromancer on November 04, 2007, 07:59:38 AM
I'm all for writers getting more respect and merits for their work, with the exception of whatever neo-modern gritty smuck wrote that abominable script for "Seeker: The Dark is Rising".

Stay strong, my writing brethrin! We shall triumph! >_<

Until then, I can certainly sacrifice my income of nu daily shows.
Title: Re: No More Daily Show until the writer's strike ends!!!!
Post by: Petey Wheatstraw on January 09, 2008, 05:39:48 PM
I'm guessing that all the hubbub about Daily Show, Colbert Report, Late Night with Conan, etc. going back without writers might just be a publicity stunt. I'd say that they have at least a couple of writers on there, but that's just my opinion. I don't know for sure, so I can't really say. But for every show that continued production throughout the strike, I'd like to give props to every writer who told the union to go fuck themselves. It's the only sensible and intelligent thing to do in a situation like this.
Title: Re: No More Daily Show until the writer's strike ends!!!!
Post by: Petey Wheatstraw on January 09, 2008, 06:06:36 PM
Except Daily Show went WGA back in 2006, so I don't think they can legally employ other writers.

There's one of the things I hate about unions. If a production is union, you cannot work on it if you're not in the union. What kind of bullshit is that? Robert Rodriguez had to leave the director's guild because they wouldn't let him credit Frank Miller as co-director on Sin CIty. THEN, because of this, he wasn't allowed to take part in directing another project he wanted to do (John Carter of Mars), because it was a union production. (It's now being helmed by Pixar.) The union can fuck you over, badly if you don't do as they say and relinquish your freedom as an artist. Even though you are still limited by not being a part of a union, you would not be nearly as limited as you would in the union.
Title: Re: No More Daily Show until the writer's strike ends!!!!
Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on January 09, 2008, 08:55:44 PM
John just said on the show tonight that they are doing it like MST3K, showing clips and saying what comes to mind...
Title: Re: No More Daily Show until the writer's strike ends!!!!
Post by: hare.29 on January 10, 2008, 04:53:42 AM
And of course Colbert ran a script from Oct. 29th the other night.
Title: Re: No More Daily Show until the writer's strike ends!!!!
Post by: pyro on January 10, 2008, 12:37:26 PM
Except Daily Show went WGA back in 2006, so I don't think they can legally employ other writers.

There's one of the things I hate about unions. If a production is union, you cannot work on it if you're not in the union. What kind of bullshit is that? Robert Rodriguez had to leave the director's guild because they wouldn't let him credit Frank Miller as co-director on Sin CIty. THEN, because of this, he wasn't allowed to take part in directing another project he wanted to do (John Carter of Mars), because it was a union production. (It's now being helmed by Pixar.) The union can fuck you over, badly if you don't do as they say and relinquish your freedom as an artist. Even though you are still limited by not being a part of a union, you would not be nearly as limited as you would in the union.

I think Lucas left the writers or directors guild after they started giving him shit for putting all of the credits at the end of Star Wars
Title: Re: No More Daily Show until the writer's strike ends!!!!
Post by: Hebs on January 10, 2008, 12:40:06 PM
I was surprised to see it on, I didn't know they were coming back at all.  I feel bad for Stewart, I'm sure he's in an awful position.
Title: Re: No More Daily Show until the writer's strike ends!!!!
Post by: Chaos on January 10, 2008, 12:40:58 PM
I think Lucas left the writers or directors guild after they started giving him shit for putting all of the credits at the end of Star Wars

Really? I always thought he left because a) they weren't kissing his ass NEARLY enough for his superego's taste, b) he's batshit insane and nobody would put up with him anymore, or c) both. :D
Title: Re: No More Daily Show until the writer's strike ends!!!!
Post by: pyro on January 10, 2008, 12:45:51 PM
I think Lucas left the writers or directors guild after they started giving him shit for putting all of the credits at the end of Star Wars

Really? I always thought he left because a) they weren't kissing his ass NEARLY enough for his superego's taste, b) he's batshit insane and nobody would put up with him anymore, or c) both. :D

Seems more likely....  I dunno, I can't find verification on wikipedia and that's the only amount of research I'm willing to do on him other than that TV doc I saw at 2am that night where I think I heard that other info
Title: Re: No More Daily Show until the writer's strike ends!!!!
Post by: Doctor Who? on January 10, 2008, 01:23:03 PM
I have heard this story many times(it's on the extras disc for the first DvD versions of the first three Star Wars movies,and you can find it in any book,or internet article about the making of Star Wars.),it goes something like this.

The actors union fined Lucas $1 million for not have credits at the star of Empire(It was hardly a new idea I think they just saw a way to get a hold of some of the Star wars pie).  After that the director's union tried to fine the Director of Empire for the same thing,Lucas paid that fine himself too,but still refused to put the credits at the start.  After that The actors,Writers,and Directors Union jointly tried to fine him and have Empire PULLED from release,so He paid the new fine but then dropped out so they couldn't fine him or tried to Pull Jedi. 

If you ask me he had a good reason to leave.
Title: Re: No More Daily Show until the writer's strike ends!!!!
Post by: FordPrefect on January 10, 2008, 09:48:31 PM
John just said on the show tonight that they are doing it like MST3K, showing clips and saying what comes to mind...

Hmm. John is apparently unaware that MST3K had writers. Oh well, maybe people who aren't familiar with the show will look it up to figure out what he was talking about. Also, if they're truly doing it like MST3K does that mean he's going to be trapped by mad scientists on a spaceship with robots? Because I'd be interested in watching that.  :)
Title: Re: No More Daily Show until the writer's strike ends!!!!
Post by: RoninFox on January 10, 2008, 10:12:05 PM
John just said on the show tonight that they are doing it like MST3K, showing clips and saying what comes to mind...

Hmm. John is apparently unaware that MST3K had writers. Oh well, maybe people who aren't familiar with the show will look it up to figure out what he was talking about. Also, if they're truly doing it like MST3K does that mean he's going to be trapped by mad scientists on a spaceship with robots? Because I'd be interested in watching that.  :)

Well, MST3K did START as improving anyway.  Then it got better.    :)
Title: Re: No More Daily Show until the writer's strike ends!!!!
Post by: bettertomorrowamy on January 10, 2008, 11:21:00 PM
That would be cool, just John's silhouette on the couch flipping back between CNN, Fox News, MSNBC, etc...
Title: Re: No More Daily Show until the writer's strike ends!!!!
Post by: Zardoz! on January 11, 2008, 01:35:47 AM
I, for one, commend John Stewart for standing by working people looking for a fair break.
Title: Re: No More Daily Show until the writer's strike ends!!!!
Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on January 11, 2008, 08:44:06 AM
That would be cool, just John's silhouette on the couch flipping back between CNN, Fox News, MSNBC, etc...

That would be cool to see, not much different from what he's doing now with the clips in a little box next to his head....

Just because they can't used prepared scripts doesn't mean they can't get together during the day and rehearse, obviously they are putting the video clips together and coming up with jokes, John just has to remember them without using a prompter.

This does show that Stewart is funnier than Colbert, A daily show is still funny, Colbert's show was getting really funny during the month or 2 before the strike, now it's back to what it was like when he first started (only moderately funny).
Title: Re: No More Daily Show until the writer's strike ends!!!!
Post by: Hebs on January 11, 2008, 01:16:33 PM
is Rifftrax going to be affected by this?  I'm sure Mike is probably a part of the writers union.

In an interview that one of our own - Lady Kenobi did - he explained that at no point was he ever protected by a union, but most of his writer friends are, so he wants to support his friends.