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Title: A Song You Hate By a Band/Musician You Love...
Post by: whoopdefndo on October 03, 2007, 12:05:49 PM
They can't all be gems, right?

20+ years later I still have a soft spot in my heart and head for Marillion*. Their style is certainly nothing like it was in the 80s (the past few CDs sound like they're trying to out-Coldplay Coldplay) but damned if I still don't buy their stuff and listen to it more than almost anything else by anyone else.

That having been said, the first single they tried to release with current lead vocalist Steve Hogarth, "Hooks In You," sounds like the lamest Cinderellapoisongreatwhiteskidrowjackyl barn-burner-wannabe song I've ever heard, and I'm from Jersey, so I've heard many.


*It's OK to say "who?"
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Post by: gbeenie on October 03, 2007, 12:18:12 PM
I hang my head in shame that I know who Marillion are.

Must be something to do with being a fellow Jersey refugee.  :)
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Post by: Steve-O on October 03, 2007, 05:05:03 PM
That having been said, the first single they tried to release with current lead vocalist Steve Hogarth, "Hooks In You," sounds like the lamest Cinderellapoisongreatwhiteskidrowjackyl barn-burner-wannabe song I've ever heard, and I'm from Jersey, so I've heard many.

On the other hand, maybe that was a smart move by the band.  After all, long time fans were guaranteed to hate the first non-Fish material anyway.  If you're going to be hanged for horse thievery, might as well have actually stolen a horse first.
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Post by: Cosmic Muse on October 08, 2007, 11:36:48 AM
Well, I have to say that I'm not very fond of the new stuff by the Finnish group Nightwish ever since they booted Tarja Turunen in favor of that shrill voiced pop diva Anette Olzon. Yes, she might be attractive to the guys, but her voice sucks compared to Tarja's.
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Post by: Shelly_Marsh on October 09, 2007, 06:23:09 PM
I hate that song "Polly Waddle Doodle" By Alicia Keys.
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Post by: Dim of the Yard on October 14, 2007, 07:42:52 PM
Well, I might as well come upfront and say right now that My Chemical Romance is a bit of a guilty pleasure of mine.  (Hey, it's no worse than admitting to watching Batman and Robin repeatedly when I was younger!)  Something in their music seems perfect for some little moods that I tend to sink into when things in my life become less than satisfactory.  However, I cannot and will not listen to the song entitled "Cancer."  It just hits a chord with me that makes it intolerable to listen to.

Also: U2's Vertigo.  It just got old.
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Post by: RobtheBarbarian on October 14, 2007, 09:26:50 PM
I used to like Korn... I used to like them alot. Pretty much anything since Issues counts as something I hate, but does that mean I don't love them anymore and thus they don't count?
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Post by: BladesGirl on November 07, 2007, 12:45:41 PM
Closer - Nine Inch Nails: Heard it!  Come up with something better, Trent.
Hurt - Nine Inch Nails: Come on, Trent, toughen up, take it like a man, you whiny bitch.
Te Quiero Puta - Rammstein: This song is so elementary for their talents. 
Sweet Dreams - Marilyn Manson: Marilyn Manson is a hypocritical fruitloop.  His first album is a good listen (every five years or so).  Everything after that was commercial "I hate God" fodder just to get a rise out of society.
Shitlist - L7: Come on, girls.  Why all the anger?
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Post by: Tyrant on November 07, 2007, 08:23:47 PM

  I'd have to say "Closer" by NIN. I can't play that song around my Mom and it makes me angry.
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Post by: mrbasehart on November 08, 2007, 05:33:02 AM
Okay, outside of 7 or 8 songs they've done, I don't much like Led Zeppelin's output.  For example, Communication Breakdown, who the hell wants to listen to someone playing an Electric Guitar with a violin bow for 5 minutes? It might be great live, or when you're high, but it's just plain annoying otherwise.  It's a shame really, as I love those 7 or 8 songs. 
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Post by: Tripe on November 08, 2007, 07:47:46 AM
Magic Bus by The Who. and pretty much everything after Keith died
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Post by: gbeenie on November 08, 2007, 10:46:35 AM
Okay, outside of 7 or 8 songs they've done, I don't much like Led Zeppelin's output.  For example, Communication Breakdown, who the hell wants to listen to someone playing an Electric Guitar with a violin bow for 5 minutes? It might be great live, or when you're high, but it's just plain annoying otherwise.  It's a shame really, as I love those 7 or 8 songs. 

Check out the "favorite albums" thread. I wrote about my view of Led Zeppelin there.

The basic thrust was: just get the 2-CD set containing all of Robert Johnson's recordings. You'll pretty closely approximate the output of Led Zeppelin (of course, Johnson's recordings were made before any of the members of the Zep were born).
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Post by: gbeenie on November 08, 2007, 10:48:37 AM
Took me a while to think of one:

"Baby, It's Cold Outside" by Dean Martin. Deano, this song is a duet; having completely generic, anonymous background singers handling the female vocals is a REALLY BAD IDEA.
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Post by: Tripe on November 08, 2007, 10:55:20 AM
Okay, outside of 7 or 8 songs they've done, I don't much like Led Zeppelin's output.  For example, Communication Breakdown, who the hell wants to listen to someone playing an Electric Guitar with a violin bow for 5 minutes? It might be great live, or when you're high, but it's just plain annoying otherwise.  It's a shame really, as I love those 7 or 8 songs. 

Check out the "favorite albums" thread. I wrote about my view of Led Zeppelin there.

The basic thrust was: just get the 2-CD set containing all of Robert Johnson's recordings. You'll pretty closely approximate the output of Led Zeppelin (of course, Johnson's recordings were made before any of the members of the Zep were born).

Oh and get the Willie Dixon two CD set from Chess to fill in any gaps.
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Post by: doggans on November 09, 2007, 03:25:29 AM
Six words:

The Ballad of John and Yoko.
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Post by: BBQ Platypus on November 14, 2007, 10:10:53 AM
Virtually every song on Greendale (except that one instrumental at the beginning) is a fresh, fetid, steaming buffalo turd with a generous helping of alpaca vomit on the side.
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Post by: Dim of the Yard on November 14, 2007, 11:01:02 AM
How about Paul McCartney?  I'm a fan of Macca's and am trying to find/purchase more of his CD's, but I can't stand Ebony And Ivory.  That song just makes me want to throw my CD Player across the room.
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Post by: Darth Geek on November 14, 2007, 03:49:54 PM
"Give Peace a Chance" by the Beatles.
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Post by: gbeenie on November 14, 2007, 06:11:00 PM
Six words:

The Ballad of John and Yoko.

I kind of like the fact that it's actually just John and Paul performing (and this was at the point where they could hardly stand to be in a room together), but the song itself is sort of meh (at least the lyrical content).
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Post by: gbeenie on November 14, 2007, 06:11:59 PM
"Give Peace a Chance" by the Beatles.

That was John Lennon, actually. And, yeah, it pretty much does suck.
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Post by: gbeenie on November 14, 2007, 06:13:06 PM
How about Paul McCartney?  I'm a fan of Macca's and am trying to find/purchase more of his CD's, but I can't stand Ebony And Ivory.  That song just makes me want to throw my CD Player across the room.

I loved that song when I was a teenager, but I got better.
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Post by: AThingThatMakesYouWaltz on November 19, 2007, 07:36:49 PM
I think Modest Mouse could have definitely left Shitluck off The Lonesome Crowded West. Also, the "rap" part in Rush's Roll the Bones makes me cringe every time.
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Post by: Teaflax on February 24, 2008, 11:11:09 AM
her voice sucks compared to Tarja's.

Dude, that's harsh.

Otherwise,

I've Seen All Good People - Yes. A truly progressive band just beginning find their feet and nailing down a unique style resort to Boogie Rock That Goes On Forever. A truly hideous blemish on the greatness that is Yes from 1969-1976.

The Golden Calf - Prefab Sprout. Meant as a b-side, but Paddy was flattered by some people to put it on From Langley Park to Memphis, thus tainting a near-perfect Pop album with a crappy slice of Rock n roll. Even he regrets the decision today.

She's a Girl and I'm a Man - Lloyd Cole. The middle eight sounds like Springsteen's Dancing in the Dark. 'Nuff said.

Song 2 - Blur. Idiotic and annoying. They couldn't even be bothered to give it a proper title - or a lyric in the chorus. The beginning of their downfall.

Boogie with Stu - Led Zeppelin. Usually the accusations of Zep just playing straight Blues are ludicrous. Here they're right on the money.

Walk of Life - Dire Straits. I'm not as huge fan of DS, but I generally like them okay (and Love Over GOld was a great album), but where Money for Nothing was just vapid, this manages to be actively annoying.

If Metallica hadn't gone completely down the shitter, I would say that "lalala" song with Marianne Faithful.

Don't You Forget About Me - Simple Minds. Again, the beginning of their downfall. Ths success this song engendered eventually lead to Derek Forbes leaving, at which point they were just plain screwed. Even his recent return hasn't helped.

The Number One Song in Heaven - Sparks. They were great in the mid-70s and they are great now. In between, they did crap like this.

Reelin' in the Years - Steely Dan. Sound like it could have been recorded by The Eagles. 'Nuff said.

Season of the Witch - The Zombies. Okay, I don't hate it that much, but it's so clearly the weakest song on the otherwise sublime Odessey and Oracle that it's almost a given that this would be the hit single.

Invincible - Muse. Sub-U2 balladry form a band that is usually very consistent.

Epic - Faith No More. It lead to much greater things, but this really didn't make it seem like Mike Patton was such a great choice.
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Post by: Ortega on February 24, 2008, 12:11:43 PM
pretty much any song on A.F.I. 's Decemberunderground.  Here you had a pretty good punk band with a distinct sound and a singer that had an awesome range, and then they go completely emo.  And the few songs that are hard and fast, Davey Havok seems to be phoning it in. 

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Post by: gbeenie on February 24, 2008, 12:47:43 PM

I've Seen All Good People - Yes. A truly progressive band just beginning find their feet and nailing down a unique style resort to Boogie Rock That Goes On Forever. A truly hideous blemish on the greatness that is Yes from 1969-1976.


My problem with that song is that it moves and moves and just goes nowhere.


Reelin' in the Years - Steely Dan. Sound like it could have been recorded by The Eagles. 'Nuff said.


Harsh (although not necessarily untrue).

Season of the Witch - The Zombies. Okay, I don't hate it that much, but it's so clearly the weakest song on the otherwise sublime Odessey and Oracle that it's almost a given that this would be the hit single.


Did you mean "Time of the Season"? "Season of the Witch" (which is a phenomenal song) is by Donovan. As for "Time of the Season," it's one of those songs thats starts off well enough, but is saddled with a truly uninspired chorus.


Epic - Faith No More. It lead to much greater things, but this really didn't make it seem like Mike Patton was such a great choice.

I like the song, but I can see why Faith No More fans might not.
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Post by: Teaflax on February 24, 2008, 01:08:00 PM
Did you mean "Time of the Season"?

Yes, I did. I'm an idiot. Thanks for clearing that up.

Season of the Witch" (which is a phenomenal song) is by Donovan.

Indeed it is. Donovan is way underrated. A Gift from a Flower to a Garden is one of my most cherished recent finds.
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Post by: Teaflax on February 24, 2008, 01:09:03 PM
pretty much any song on A.F.I. 's Decemberunderground.  Here you had a pretty good punk band with a distinct sound and a singer that had an awesome range, and then they go completely emo.  And the few songs that are hard and fast, Davey Havok seems to be phoning it in. 

Why did they take their name from the American Film Institute? That's what I want to know.
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Post by: NinjaComic on February 24, 2008, 01:20:32 PM
ANY hidden track.  When I am listening to a CD or even a playlist, the last thing I want is 3 minutes of dead air followed by a song I didn't want to hear.  Or worse still, it is a song I want to hear and I have no way of easily accessing it.  I usually end up having to edit into two songs and cut the silence.  :angry:
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Post by: Blue Raja on February 24, 2008, 03:49:14 PM
As just about any Genesis fan can say without a doubt:

"Whodunnit".

And I'm ashamed to say...(or am I...?)


I actually LIKE "Hooks In You" by Marillion. :-X

It's "No Such Thing" that I really don't care for - along with other handfuls from the albums "Somewhere Else" and "Radiation."  "Grendel" never did sit too well with me either, but it never made the original album anyway, so all is forgiven. :P

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Post by: Teaflax on February 24, 2008, 09:17:44 PM
As just about any Genesis fan can say without a doubt:

"Whodunnit"

There are at least 50 songs in the Genesis oeuvre worse than that cute little ditty, which is in many ways one of the more experimental tunes on the album, together with Keep It Dark..Admittedly, most of the really bad tunes came after Abacab, so it was a bit of a low point at the time. even if they had turned out some even worse stinkers before that, like More Fool Me, Your Special Way and Alone Tonight. Afterwards there were terrible moments aplenty from Illegal Alien and Anything She Does all the way to most of We Can't Dance and every single note on Calling All Stations.

No, Who Dunnit isn't really that bad at all.
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Post by: TeamRAD on February 25, 2008, 10:59:35 AM
pretty much any song on A.F.I. 's Decemberunderground.  Here you had a pretty good punk band with a distinct sound and a singer that had an awesome range, and then they go completely emo.  And the few songs that are hard and fast, Davey Havok seems to be phoning it in. 

I had a blast watching AFI evolve from their Cruise Control days to their eventual rise from the underground. They were really good. I enjoyed all of their material, but there was defintely something missing from Decemberunderground. I'm still somewhat baffled by how lifeless it is in comparison to their major-label debut (there were moments on SoS I liked quite a bit) and not going to make an attempt to bring in their rocking Nitro releases into the equation. Decemberunderground's a bummer.

...but they still gave me one of my favorite choruses of all-time in Cruise Control. It's gold and still cracks me up to this day. Their live shows were pretty snazzy too.

Back on topic, what was Weezer thinking with "This Is Such a Pity"? My mind was crying for Matt Sharp for the 733 time after hearing that song off Make Believe.
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Post by: Blue Raja on February 25, 2008, 11:45:53 AM
There are at least 50 songs in the Genesis oeuvre worse than that cute little ditty, which is in many ways one of the more experimental tunes on the album, together with Keep It Dark..Admittedly, most of the really bad tunes came after Abacab, so it was a bit of a low point at the time. even if they had turned out some even worse stinkers before that, like More Fool Me, Your Special Way and Alone Tonight. Afterwards there were terrible moments aplenty from Illegal Alien and Anything She Does all the way to most of We Can't Dance and every single note on Calling All Stations.

No, Who Dunnit isn't really that bad at all.

For me, the factor that makes Who Dunnit (you're right, it is 2 words... :-[) more annoying than any other bad song they've done was the REPITITION.  Had it varied a bit, or somehow had some other chords or something, it might have been made more bearable for me.  As in the case of "Submarine," it too was repititious, but I always found it kinda soothing, so I didn't mind.  I've figured out that, for myself, there's a good kind of repitition and a bad kind.  Who Dunnit was the living incarnation of the BAD kind for me.

So there ya go.



(Seriously - you feel that "The Dividing Line" and/or "Calling All Stations" the title track are arguably as bad as Who Dunnit? :-\  I always liked those songs quite a bit...)
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Post by: Teaflax on February 25, 2008, 11:16:08 PM
(Seriously - you feel that "The Dividing Line" and/or "Calling All Stations" the title track are arguably as bad as Who Dunnit? :-\  I always liked those songs quite a bit...)

To me, weird and slightly annoying is better than bland and entirely forgettable. I really, really tried to give CAS a fair shake, but I don't think I'd recognize a single song off it if I heard it today. Not that I want things to be catchy - I detest catchy because that's usually just a euphemism for simple and repetitive, but something minorly distinctive would have been nice.

(and I only knew Who Dunnit was two words because I had to scan my Genesis collection to see which soongs I actually found to be worse)
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Post by: bratpop on February 26, 2008, 02:41:11 AM
Wow, a lot of people seem to have trouble picking ONE song. Note: it doesn't count if you hate everything after (insert album).

I can't really think of anything by a band I love that I absolutely HATE, and I don't count a horrid album like Bowie's Black Tie, White Noise since I only like one b-side from it. The best I can come up with that I definately skip each listen is the Beatles' Revolution 9. Of course, that's not really a song. And it's easy not to like instrumentals.
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Post by: OTC316 on February 27, 2008, 09:23:10 PM
I was listening to a station called Fistful of Soundtracks, and they had a show about music rejected from movie soundtracks. I was surprised to find out that one of the original choices for the theme song to the James Bond flick Thunderball was written & performed by Johnny Cash! After hearing it, I can see why it was turned down. I never thought I would ever hear a bad song by Cash, but there it was.
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Post by: bratpop on February 27, 2008, 11:36:41 PM
Eh, but the theme to Thunderball DID suck. Is that really true though? That sounds awesome.
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Post by: Tripe on February 28, 2008, 05:12:01 AM
Is it Cash singing the same song or an entirely different one?

I must find it!
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Post by: Teaflax on February 28, 2008, 11:08:03 AM
Eh, but the theme to Thunderball DID suck. Is that really true though? That sounds awesome.

Unless you have other odd criteria for Bond tunes than those marks they are supposed to hit, the Thunderball theme is awesome, not least because Mr Jones actually - against all logic and convention - repeatedly carries a long note on the letter n.

However, it wasn't nearly as good as the Shirley Bassey version of another scrapped theme for that movie; Mr Kiss Kiss Bang Bang (also recorded by Dionne Warwick). Best Bond theme ever, and it was never used. They should revive it for Quantum of Solace (yes, that's the title of the new Bond flick).
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Post by: gbeenie on February 28, 2008, 12:54:19 PM
Anyone ever hear any of Alex North's original score for 2001?
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Post by: Teaflax on February 28, 2008, 03:57:45 PM
Anyone ever hear any of Alex North's original score for 2001?

Yep - I have Jerry Goldsmith's rerecording of it. It's pretty unremarkable.
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Post by: OTC316 on February 28, 2008, 07:02:52 PM
Anyone ever hear any of Alex North's original score for 2001?

Y'know what, they played that on the same episode of fistfull, along with the rejected Mr kiss kiss bang bang tunes. Something else i learned from that episode. James Brown's "the Big Payback" was written for a 70's blaxploitation flick ( sorry, can't remember the title.) and it was turned down because the producer thought "it wasn't funky enough". ???