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Title: Any Love for Bill O'Reilly??
Post by: bettertomorrowamy on August 17, 2007, 08:34:01 AM
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Title: Re: Any Love for Bill O'Reilly??
Post by: bettertomorrowamy on August 17, 2007, 08:38:22 AM
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Title: Re: Any Love for Bill O'Reilly??
Post by: RVR II on August 17, 2007, 08:39:47 AM
I actually enjoy watching his 'smugness', even if he is a Communist as my parents think he is :D :D

BUT I Like Colbert Much Better!! :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: Any Love for Bill O'Reilly??
Post by: bettertomorrowamy on August 17, 2007, 08:56:46 AM
O'reilly is pretty funny to watch.  It is pretty entertaining when he goes after the really easy stuff, where he is absolutely right and can pat himself on the back for being so righteous.  But most of the time he attacks people who just believe things different than him.  It's also funny when he has people on and doesn't let them speak and then twists what they do say, then they quickly go to commercial.  It's like his guests are a line of straight men that he bounces one-liners off of.  He's entertaining if you like watching a person self-destruct.  Which I do.
Title: Re: Any Love for Bill O'Reilly??
Post by: SmilinJackRoss on August 17, 2007, 09:13:33 AM
What can be said that hasn't been said a million times before?  He's a smug, righteous prick who claims he's in the "no spin zone", when he's anything but. 
Title: Re: Any Love for Bill O'Reilly??
Post by: bettertomorrowamy on August 17, 2007, 09:26:23 AM
I think he's talented in a strange way that nobody examines.  Everybody talks about how smart Einstein is, but what about O'Reilly?
Title: Re: Any Love for Bill O'Reilly??
Post by: MrTorso on August 17, 2007, 09:28:15 AM
Who can forget about his hard hitting report of the lesbian gangs with pink pistols that are going around attacking children.
Title: Re: Any Love for Bill O'Reilly??
Post by: Tripe on August 17, 2007, 09:39:11 AM
Or the delightfully sleezy way he has of interviewing people like Jenna Jameson. Hmm outrage is an odd sign of arrousal but it's Bill's.
Title: Re: Any Love for Bill O'Reilly??
Post by: jewishcarpenter on August 17, 2007, 09:39:23 AM
I enjoyed the excerpts of some of the things Bill O'Reilly said to Andrea Mackris (http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/1013043mackris1.html) the dailykos provided when he started attacking their site so O'Reilly viewers went to the site they got a little more information about Bill O'Reilly than they wanted to know. It's funny that he said he was only going to show that picture once then proceeded to show it a few more times on later dates. He tried to spur some uproar with another picture but then had Dennis Miller on after he showed the picture and then they ended up having a good laugh over the picture, what happened to the outrage?!?! I'm wondering how many people actually watch his show because they agree with the things he says or if all of his viewers have a morbid curiosity with watching insane people rant.
Title: Re: Any Love for Bill O'Reilly??
Post by: Tripe on August 17, 2007, 09:43:08 AM
Ooh now don't get me started on Miller..

He wasn't funny before he became more vocally conservative and he's not funny now.


I'm wondering how many people actually watch his show because they agree with the things he says or if all of his viewers have a morbid curiosity with watching insane people rant.

Apparently the median age of his viewers is 72 so I'm guessing they watch cause it's what the nursing home put on. :D
Title: Re: Any Love for Bill O'Reilly??
Post by: bettertomorrowamy on August 17, 2007, 09:47:34 AM
his viewers have a morbid curiosity with watching insane people rant.

That's me.  I wonder if Bill ever sits down and examines who he is in an introspective way?  Like, what are my motivations?
He's so simple, and yet angry at the same time.  If he was an actor playing himself, he would deserve awards.
Title: Re: Any Love for Bill O'Reilly??
Post by: Minnesota on August 17, 2007, 10:22:22 AM
What can be said that hasn't been said a million times before?  He's a smug, righteous prick who claims he's in the "no spin zone", when he's anything but. 

2nd... also, hey mods can we get a politics branch on the forum, just a suggestion for 08'... the thought of an election year is already giving me a headache
Title: Re: Any Love for Bill O'Reilly??
Post by: Tripe on August 17, 2007, 10:24:56 AM
What can be said that hasn't been said a million times before?  He's a smug, righteous prick who claims he's in the "no spin zone", when he's anything but. 

2nd... also, hey mods can we get a politics branch on the forum, just a suggestion for 08'... the thought of an election year is already giving me a headache

I'd caution against that, once that was established I'd fear we'd see a huge influx of people just popping up to argue in ALL CAPS and that'd simply be a waste of bandwidth.
Title: Re: Any Love for Bill O'Reilly??
Post by: jewishcarpenter on August 17, 2007, 10:25:47 AM
What can be said that hasn't been said a million times before?  He's a smug, righteous prick who claims he's in the "no spin zone", when he's anything but. 
the thought of an election year is already giving me a headache
Heh, me too.
Title: Re: Any Love for Bill O'Reilly??
Post by: bettertomorrowamy on August 17, 2007, 10:28:07 AM
This is more of a joke about the John Stossel thread, and not really political for me.

I just think both these guys are full of themselves.
Title: Re: Any Love for Bill O'Reilly??
Post by: RVR II on August 17, 2007, 10:31:46 AM
What can be said that hasn't been said a million times before?  He's a smug, righteous prick who claims he's in the "no spin zone", when he's anything but. 

2nd... also, hey mods can we get a politics branch on the forum, just a suggestion for 08'... the thought of an election year is already giving me a headache

I'd caution against that, once that was established I'd fear we'd see a huge influx of people just popping up to argue in ALL CAPS and that'd simply be a waste of bandwidth.
YEAH!!
Title: Re: Any Love for Bill O'Reilly??
Post by: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on August 17, 2007, 10:34:09 AM
I just think both these guys are full of themselves.

Well, in O'Reilly's case I've always thought he was full of shit.....so that's about right.
Title: Re: Any Love for Bill O'Reilly??
Post by: Rude on August 17, 2007, 10:35:07 AM
...

I like O'Reilly... and i watch his show quite a bit. The man created a news magazine that has been number one almost since the first day it aired. Which doesn't say much really, except that he's incredibly successful at what he does.

I think the positions he takes, and most of his views are pretty common sense. But people just absolutely hate the man so much that they can't stand to agree with him on anything. It's like he's become this symbol for people to hate. I'm not surprised to find out that the people who despise O'Reilly the most, have never even watched his show. Seriously... they'll watch clips online, or read some negative article about him somewhere. But they've never even sat down and watched his show once.

I'm not a fan of Keith Olbermann. But when he started to become this target of the right-wing, i decided to sit down and actually watch his show. And i still don't agree with him on much, but his show is very entertaining and he's a pretty funny guy. And for all the shit O'Reilly gets for being some kind of demagogue, Olbermann is much, much worse. But people love him because they agree with him, and they like his obvious liberal bias.

Anyway, O'Reilly is going to be around for a long time... and his show will be number one as long as it's on the air. A ridiculous amount of people watch him every single day. I know it sounds stupid and cliche, but... if you don't like his show, you don't have to watch. Why waste your time hating the man so much based on short clips and other people's blog entries? But to each his own, i guess. Hate away...

-Rude
Title: Re: Any Love for Bill O'Reilly??
Post by: Tripe on August 17, 2007, 10:38:41 AM
I find his writing about teenaged girls performing Oral Sex to be a little disquieting really.

My cable is so limited that i only have Fox (which might explain why it's numbers are so high I fancy, if the other two aren't available at certain levels of cable the playing field isn't exactly even) so I've watched O'Reilly a number of times a week. he really is an annoying bast but there's a car crash watchability to the show. More so than that Hannity and er I forget his name.
Title: Re: Any Love for Bill O'Reilly??
Post by: bettertomorrowamy on August 17, 2007, 10:40:02 AM
That's my point, I like the show but I don't agree with him.  Wrap your head around that.

Olberman is boring as far as I'm concerned.

and I don't like the Misfits either.
Title: Re: Any Love for Bill O'Reilly??
Post by: RVR II on August 17, 2007, 10:43:45 AM
Oh Come On! The Misfits!! You don't like them even a little??

I'll bet Bill O'Reilly might like them.. ::)
Title: Re: Any Love for Bill O'Reilly??
Post by: bettertomorrowamy on August 17, 2007, 10:45:17 AM
If Mr. O'Reilly says the Misfits are ok, then I might have to rethink my position....wait a minute....no I still think they suck.
Title: Re: Any Love for Bill O'Reilly??
Post by: Tripe on August 17, 2007, 10:46:27 AM
Got to say I've never listened to them, what sort of music are they?
Title: Re: Any Love for Bill O'Reilly??
Post by: RVR II on August 17, 2007, 10:47:09 AM
If Mr. O'Reilly says the Misfits are ok, then I might have to rethink my position....wait a minute....no I still think they suck.
:D :D :D
I Can Actually laugh at That!
Title: Re: Any Love for Bill O'Reilly??
Post by: RVR II on August 17, 2007, 10:49:05 AM
Got to say I've never listened to them, what sort of music are they?
Late 80's-early 90's Punk Hard Rock is probably a good description..

Nirvana Unplugged did a couple of their tunes..
Title: Re: Any Love for Bill O'Reilly??
Post by: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on August 17, 2007, 10:52:33 AM
I think the positions he takes, and most of his views are pretty common sense.

You mean like his saying that Al Quida is free to take out San Francisco?  That kind of common sense?

"'And if Al Qaeda comes in here [San Francisco] and blows you up, we're not going to do anything about it. We're going to say, look, every other place in America is off limits to you, except San Francisco. You want to blow up the Coit Tower? Go ahead.'"

"'I think [the ACLU is] a terrorist group. They're terrorizin' me and my family. They're terrorizing me. I think they're terrorists.'"

(except when they're defending Rush Limbagh in his doctor shopping trial over privacy of medical records, I guess - which in this case they were wrong?)

"'You know, if Carter were president today, we'd all be speaking Arabic.'"

"'According to the lefty zealots, the white Christians who hold power must be swept out by a new multicultural tide, a rainbow coalition, if you will.'"

Or this comment he made about a rape and murder victim: "'wearing a miniskirt and a halter top. ... [E]very predator in the world is gonna pick that up at 2 in the morning.'"

(and having sexually harrassed at least one co-worker that we know of, he'd know a lot about being a predator, wouldn't he?)

Or his calling a nine-year Veteran who wants to be able to talk to high school students about some of the things Military Recruiters don't tell you about before signing you up (in an effort to help them make a more informed choice) "Anti-Military" (http://www.newshounds.us/2007/08/09/oreilly_calls_nineyear_military_vet_antimilitary.php)?

Just to name a few....
Title: Re: Any Love for Bill O'Reilly??
Post by: bettertomorrowamy on August 17, 2007, 10:55:40 AM
Wait, which songs were misfits covers?  I know there were Meat Puppets covers...
Title: Re: Any Love for Bill O'Reilly??
Post by: Tripe on August 17, 2007, 10:58:51 AM
Got to say I've never listened to them, what sort of music are they?
Late 80's-early 90's Punk Hard Rock is probably a good description..

Nirvana Unplugged did a couple of their tunes..

Ah, wouldn't be my cup of tea then.
Title: Re: Any Love for Bill O'Reilly??
Post by: RVR II on August 17, 2007, 10:59:39 AM
Wait, which songs were misfits covers?  I know there were Meat Puppets covers...
Oh Hell..

I got confused! It Was the Meat Puppets - Not the Misfits :P
Title: Re: Any Love for Bill O'Reilly??
Post by: bettertomorrowamy on August 17, 2007, 11:01:26 AM
I have Meat Puppets II, the album those covers are from.  It's like low-production punk country.
Title: Re: Any Love for Bill O'Reilly??
Post by: RVR II on August 17, 2007, 11:03:13 AM
I have Meat Puppets II, the album those covers are from.  It's like low-production punk country.
Yeah.. I'm not a fan of country, so my description may have been off a little :P
Title: Re: Any Love for Bill O'Reilly??
Post by: Tripe on August 17, 2007, 11:03:28 AM
See the only Punk I really enjoy is the early Irish stuff: The Pogues,  The Stiff Little Fingers, otherwise it all leaves me cold.
Title: Re: Any Love for Bill O'Reilly??
Post by: bettertomorrowamy on August 17, 2007, 11:06:40 AM
Well the Meat Puppets don't exactly conform to a specific style.  Every album is different.  Kinda like Ween, but not as tongue in cheek.
Title: Re: Any Love for Bill O'Reilly??
Post by: gbeenie on August 17, 2007, 12:34:51 PM
I really don't care for O'Reilly; I find him excessively bellicose, and far more interested in himself than in the issues he talks about.

Worse yet, his success has caused the left to scramble about desperately looking for their own counterpart, resulting in everyone else having to put up with empty suits like Keith Olbermann, or Utter Goddamned Fools like Al Franken.
Title: Re: Any Love for Bill O'Reilly??
Post by: Minnesota on August 17, 2007, 12:40:50 PM
Keith Olbermann > *
Title: Re: Any Love for Bill O'Reilly??
Post by: Tripe on August 17, 2007, 12:46:02 PM
Utter Goddamned Fools like Al Franken.

You know I hear that said a lot but I never hear examples of his foolishness given. Whereas there's lots of materiel in O'Reilly to illustrait the assertion that he's a creepy bore.

Not overly interested in Franken really but I'd like to see more than just the assertion made all the time.
Title: Re: Any Love for Bill O'Reilly??
Post by: Minnesota on August 17, 2007, 12:49:15 PM
al franken is the only highlight of next years election ... politics are soooooo boring, thank god for people like Franken, Olberman, and Colbert that can make an otherwise boring subject interesting (also I share their opinions)
Title: Re: Any Love for Bill O'Reilly??
Post by: bettertomorrowamy on August 17, 2007, 01:19:22 PM
O'Reilly can't even call Franken by his real name.  He calls him Stuart Smally. 
How can you call Franken a fool.  He's the one who got Fox News to sue him for using Fair and Balanced in the title of one of his books.
He won that argument in court and used it to propel book sales.  He's funny!
Title: Re: Any Love for Bill O'Reilly??
Post by: jewishcarpenter on August 17, 2007, 04:30:28 PM
My problem with Bill O'Reilly is that he mislabels, deceives, and flat-out lies about issues. When someone makes a point against any statement he has made he reduces himself to juvenile tactics, such as shouting over them, telling them to shut up and cutting off their mics. He'll label people for his audience so they can make their prejudgment before all the facts are learned. Usually he won't even present all the facts. He tries to set his argument on the platform of common sense then immediately will push his argument off the platform. I've (unfortunately) sat through many full shows of his before and it's not any different from the clips you see on youtube. When people quote Bill O'Reilly he usually will lie and say he never said whatever was quoted. He's a liar that has no business being on anyone's television. If anyone wants examples I will happily present them via the mouth of Bill O'Reilly. "No Spin-Zone" my ass.
Title: Re: Any Love for Bill O'Reilly??
Post by: bettertomorrowamy on August 17, 2007, 04:42:37 PM
Bill wrote a book (http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/I/51K3CCH82TL._SS500_.jpg)

I would love to get the audiobook of it.  It actually reads it.  He talks about pimps and hos, blowjobs, and fun stuff.  Hearing it from his mouth would be fun.
Title: Re: Any Love for Bill O'Reilly??
Post by: Tripe on August 17, 2007, 05:05:23 PM
Bill wrote a book (http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/I/51K3CCH82TL._SS500_.jpg)

I would love to get the audiobook of it.  It actually reads it.  He talks about pimps and hos, blowjobs, and fun stuff.  Hearing it from his mouth would be fun.

That's what I'm talking about!

I find his writing about teenaged girls performing Oral Sex to be a little disquieting really.
Title: Re: Any Love for Bill O'Reilly??
Post by: Raven on August 17, 2007, 05:16:29 PM
I've watched his show a couple of times but I can't stand the screaming matches that break out on any of the Political Talk shows.  I do think it's hilarious when O'Reilly goes on the Colbert Report.  It's entertaining to say the least.    I think that those shows should be watched for entertainment purposes only, and not for any real information.  All of them are biased to the point that you don't know which way is up half the time. 
Title: Re: Any Love for Bill O'Reilly??
Post by: Cibernético II on August 17, 2007, 06:52:49 PM
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Title: Re: Any Love for Bill O'Reilly??
Post by: Mr.Nobody on August 17, 2007, 07:46:50 PM
I wanted to post my favorite clip ever from the O'Reilly Factor, where him and Geraldo go at it.  I don't think I've ever seen him get more pissed off, and thats really saying something.  It appears that the real way to piss him off is to point your finger at him.

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Title: Re: Any Love for Bill O'Reilly??
Post by: Dim of the Yard on August 17, 2007, 09:45:03 PM
I've seen Bill O'Reilly's show only once, and it was enough for me to decide that I don't like it.  My decision is based on the way the debates on the show are structured.  Things just evolve from a debate to a shouting match, where it seems like the louder they yell, the smarter they'll sound, and I can't stand listening to situations like that.  I mean, at least let somebody try to rationalize their point properly before breaking into their argument.  Wait your turn to talk and play nicely, kids, and remember to use your inside voices and don't take your grape juice into the living room; we don't want it to spill on the new carpet.
Title: Re: Any Love for Bill O'Reilly??
Post by: bettertomorrowamy on August 17, 2007, 10:04:05 PM
I've seen Bill O'Reilly's show only once, and it was enough for me to decide that I don't like it.  My decision is based on the way the debates on the show are structured.  Things just evolve from a debate to a shouting match, where it seems like the louder they yell, the smarter they'll sound, and I can't stand listening to situations like that.  I mean, at least let somebody try to rationalize their point properly before breaking into their argument.  Wait your turn to talk and play nicely, kids, and remember to use your inside voices and don't take your grape juice into the living room; we don't want it to spill on the new carpet.
Any more of these posts, and I gonna cut your mic.  This is the no spin zone.
Title: Re: Any Love for Bill O'Reilly??
Post by: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on August 20, 2007, 03:20:47 PM
Has anyone mentioned that today is the 2 month anniversary of O'Reilly saying that if the Surge hadn't produced certain benchmarks in 2 months that he'd admit that it's time to get out of Iraq?

Any bets on what the excuse in his own version of reality is going to be for him to go back on this pledge?

Steve Young on The Huffington Post:

"Two full months since Bill gave George Bush, the White House and the military (which I guess includes the troops) his "drop dead date" ultimatum. Two months since Bill declared that "Iraq must have its house in order."Oil deal in the parliamentary bank. Iraqi fighters taking over the fight from our boys.

Okay, let's go over the list.

Iraq's house in order: Uncheck

Oil deal set: Uncheck

Iraqi boys ready to stand up so our boys can stand down: Double uncheck.

Yep. Everything not there.

Of course there will be naysayers. There always are with Bill, just waiting to replay his actual, unedited words so to twist Bill's own recollection. Facts placed on the O'Reilly tracks attempting to derail the No-Spin Express that only desires to pull into Factor Station and take the Folks™ for one whopper of a ride.

Just watch. Mediamatters, DailyKos, liberaly loverly Stephanie Miller, even The Countdowner. You know, the usual hate-filled, hate-America, underminers of the troops and smear-sites who'll surely contend that Bill will try and spin his way out of this; that he'll say he was only using hyperbole, that "two months" is just an expression, and when he said "two months" he meant "whenever and whatever I want it to mean."

But that's not the Bill I know. Not the kid from the mean streets and private schools he attended on Levittown-adjacent Long Island; not the kind-of-being-in-war-correspondent who came face-to-face with death in the Falklands instead of coming face to face with enlisting in Vietnam when he had the chance; not the "Factor For Kids" author who spoke of a kidnaped child as enjoying his sexually abusive captivity; nor, the "Cultural Warrior" who sexually harassed a younger female employee as part of his war for the kind of culture he knew she wanted...wanted it bad.

They'll say that you called for us to pull out before

"There are so many nuts in (Iraq) -- so many crazies -- that we can't control them...So the only solution to this is to hand over everything to the Iraqis as fast as humanly possible. Because we just can't control these crazy people. "

Some of those anti-Semite, anti-Christian, anti-having Christmas like they used to havers will say that Bill gave another ultimatum on January 24th the TV Factor.

"They've got six months and that's it."

That would mean that on July 24th -- for Bill to be a man of his word -- he would have had to stand up so our men and women in Iraq could stand down, but Bill didn't pay attention to that.

Okay, his cracked research crew probably forgot to remind him. But that's why we're here today.

This time the Bill I know won't back down. He will stand rock-hard behind his ultimatum.

And he won't say he meant that he would wait until the Pertraeus "Filtered Though The White House Fact Refinery" Report because when he made his proclamation he never mentioned Petraeus, only the Iraqi military readiness and an agreed to parliament oil deal.

What the Bill I know will tell the Folks™ is that the Bush Administration and their Iraqi government had more than five years to get this thing right; that they have proven over and over that giving them any more time is just not paying attention to the no-spin facts that neither Bush nor Iraq has any idea what they're doing. Most of all, he'll say that even though the President believes that 3700 dead isn't enough, not one more American soldier's blood will be spilled on Bill's watch.

But what will Bill do to hold the Administration's feet to the fire? Push for getting Bush thrown out? Give the Folks™ Bush's personal e-mail and phone number (but reminding them to be courteous when demanding Bush's ouster)? Or perhaps the Factor death penalty: Boycotting America?

We'll have to wait until he announces it on the radio or TV today and then followup in his weekly nearly coherent column. But whatever it is, you know that if Bush and his cronies don't do the right thing, Bill will "tear their throats out."

And we wouldn't expect any less from you Bill.

After all, you are watching out for us, aren't you?"
Title: Re: Any Love for Bill O'Reilly??
Post by: Rude on August 20, 2007, 07:17:35 PM
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-Rude
Title: Re: Any Love for Bill O'Reilly??
Post by: bettertomorrowamy on August 20, 2007, 07:31:17 PM
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-Rude

Didn't Rumsfeld already use this routine?
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Title: Re: Any Love for Bill O'Reilly??
Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on August 20, 2007, 08:30:42 PM
as a guy who is kinda sorta part of said surge, all i got to say about its so called failure is the salvation council and anbar province. 

as to the ACTUAL topic of bill oreily, i used to like him, but ive long since realized he basically is a representation of all that i hate about the modern media.  he is in no way different thatn stewart smally.  Al franken and oreilly are just two sides to the same hay penny.  ill be happy to see a day where facts are valued above opinion in the media.  where they can talk for hours and make no judgements of anykind, just pure undiluted fact.