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Title: Harry Potter Book 7 Speculation
Post by: daltysmilth on July 02, 2007, 07:42:09 PM
So what does everyone think is going to happen in Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows?  Who's going to die?  Who's going to survive?  Who, if anyone, is going to come back from the dead, or turn out to have not been dead in the first place?

Some theories of my own:

Harry is going to die.  But his death is going to be necessary, because I think it's going to turn out that Harry himself is a horcrux.  Think about it.  In order to make a horcrux, you have to commit murder, and in the creation of a horcrux, one transfers part of one's soul to the object.  That could explain why Harry got some of Voldemort's powers.

Harry will find out that Snape was acting on Dumbledore's orders all along.  It only makes sense.  We'll also find out what happened between Snape and Dumbledore that made Dumbledore trust him so implicitly. 

We'll find out that R.A.B. is Regulus Black, Sirius's brother.  It fits the initials. 

Dumbledore's brother will take a large part in the story.

And here's a question I have to ask: am I the only person who is kind of hoping that there will be some kind of redemption for Draco Malfoy?
Title: Re: Harry Potter Book 7 Speculation
Post by: Lady Kitsch on July 03, 2007, 12:21:20 PM
A fun idea for a thread!  My theories are as follows:
Harry will not die.  He will be willing to die in order to stop Voldemort, but it won't come to that.  I do agree that Harry is a horcrux or that the book will at least fake us out by making us think that before revealing someone else to be so.  However, a lot of people seem to think that Harry will die, so who knows?

I agree with the Snape-acting-on-Dumbledore's-orders theory.  Snape will probably be killed in the book.  Someone major besides Voldemort will also die - perhaps Ron. 

I think that Draco will not be redeemed, if only because Rowling seems to be disgusted by how much fans love him in spite of her efforts to make him see repulsive. 
Title: Re: Harry Potter Book 7 Speculation
Post by: kodiakthejuggler on July 03, 2007, 01:03:23 PM
I wholly disagree with the assertion that Harry is a Horcrux. I just don't see Voldemort using Harry to split his own soul. It just doesn't fit, IMO.
Besides, why would Voldemort use another person, someone who has a soul of their own, to protect part of his soul? At the very least I don't think Voldemort had any intention of using Harry as a Horcrux. He was just acting on what little of the prophecy he knew.
And I don't think Jo would kill Harry, even though he'd definitely sacrifice himself for the greater good, or to protect those close too him.

What is the significance of the sound of apparition? Most are described as loud cracks, some are faint cracks, and some, such as Voldemort or Dumbledore are not described as making any sound. Could it be that the volume of the sound may indicate a wizard or witch's level of power?

And why can the house elves apparate inside Hogwarts? Is it just their brand of magic? Or is it allowed for them to apparate inside the castle only? Plus, Dumbledore uses Fawkes the Phoenix to disappear from Hogwarts when he was being cornered by Fudge and his gang. Did he really disapparate or was it just a trick?

It's so cool that there's only a couple more weeks until we get closure!!
Title: Re: Harry Potter Book 7 Speculation
Post by: J-Proof on July 03, 2007, 04:56:02 PM
i've never read a harry potter book past book two so I'ma say that I am a Horcrux - muahahaha!
Title: Re: Harry Potter Book 7 Speculation
Post by: daltysmilth on July 03, 2007, 07:08:01 PM
i've never read a harry potter book past book two so I'ma say that I am a Horcrux - muahahaha!

D'oh!  I knew it! 

Also

I wholly disagree with the assertion that Harry is a Horcrux. I just don't see Voldemort using Harry to split his own soul. It just doesn't fit, IMO.
Besides, why would Voldemort use another person, someone who has a soul of their own, to protect part of his soul? At the very least I don't think Voldemort had any intention of using Harry as a Horcrux.

I should have been more specific.  I don't think Voldemort made Harry a Horcrux on purpose.  Or at the very least, I don't think he went to the Potters' house intending to make him one.  I think it most likely happened accidentally, as a side effect of when his use of the Avada Kadavra curse failed.  It backfired on Voldemort, and somehow that caused part of his soul to be trapped in Harry's body.  Or maybe when it backfired on him, he realized he was dying, and not wanting to take any chances, he attached part of his soul to the nearest object he could find, which happened to be Harry.

In any case, does anyone ever wonder if J.K. Rowling plays a lot of video games?  I remember thinking when I read the first one that it read almost like a novelization of a Zelda game, what with all the puzzles and whatnot that Harry had to get through to get the Philosopher's Stone (why they changed it to "Sorcerer's Stone for us Americans I'll never know.)

And now, with what's going to happen in book 7, I mean, just exchange the name "Harry Potter" with "Link" and "Horcrux" with "Piece of the Triforce" and you've got a perfect setup for a Zelda game.  I don't know, maybe it's just me, but I can just picture J.K. Rowling sitting at her Nintendo 64, trying to figure out how to make Link play "Jessica" on the Ocarina.
Title: Re: Harry Potter Book 7 Speculation
Post by: MSTJedi on July 03, 2007, 07:11:39 PM
Anyone seen the book that speculates on what will happen in book 7? I just can't see the logic in that. I mean, why go to the trouble to publish a book that will be obsolete as soon as the book comes out? But, I suppose there will be the crazy people who will actually buy the thing just to see if their theories are shared by someone else. It's not like the author of the book is privy to any of Rowling's notes or anything.
Title: Re: Harry Potter Book 7 Speculation
Post by: anais.jude on July 05, 2007, 11:45:15 AM
Wow, my first post, I feel so....shiny and new.
Anyway, I was thinking that Harry might be a horcrux too, but I don't think so. I def don't think he will die in this book unless he quickly marries and impregnates Ginny. I don't think she would have introduced a love interest for Harry if she knew he would die (she=j.k.). Also, I read on her website a long time ago that it was very important to realize that Ginny was the first female weasley in many, many years.
I completely agree that Snape was working on Dumbledore's orders. I re-read number 6 recently and Dumbledore def knew what was going on the whole time (with Draco, Snape, etc). I think that it was Snape's remorse after he caused the death of James and Lily that made Dumbledore trust Snape.
As for the horcruxes, I think that one of them has to be at the orphanage where Voldemart (I mis-spelled that on purpose, that is what i call him. Shop smart, shop voldemart) was born and grew up. Also, I think there is one at Godric's Hollow, where Voldemart killed Lily and James. Remember that he wasn't planning on killing Lily, but no one ever said that he didn't plan on killing James. He killed James and placed one of the horcruxes in Godric's Hollow (that would also be his gryffindor reference).
finally, as much as i would hate for it to happen, i really don't want ron to die, but he and hermione have not officially gotten together.
love andrea  >:D
Title: Re: Harry Potter Book 7 Speculation
Post by: headlesschocolatebunny on July 06, 2007, 06:08:30 AM
i also think longbottom (tht is really funny to type that!) is going to play a bigger part than he is in the previous books. they sure are hinting at it-what if they kill him too?!?!? :speechless:
Title: Re: Harry Potter Book 7 Speculation
Post by: DrForester on July 07, 2007, 09:03:42 PM
I don't think Harry's a Horcrux, but I do think his scar is the result of a failed  horcrux.,  The way the Horcrux spell was described it sounds like the caster kills someone and it splits their soul (Splits within them, not transfers to the murder victim).  Then they would transfer that piece of their soul into whatever item they wanted to make a Horcrux.  It wounds like a 2 part spell and Voldemort got stopped after part 1.  Harry as a Horcrux just makes no sense, because then Voldemert would have (in his view) been trying to make a dead baby one of his Horcrux's.  The Killing curse is not supposed to leave any mark.  As a failed Horcrux I don't think it gave Harry a part of his soul, but really just left a link to him.  Lets also not forget that Harry's house was destroyed, the Killing curse also does not do that.

As for who's going to die, I know she's said 2 main characters, but she's said that in the past.  JK Rowling's view of "Main Character" is quite broad.  I do not think that any of the main 3 will die.  The only character I think is defiantly going to die is Snape.  I do not think he is evil, but that Dumbedore had to die for really no other reason in his mind than that it was necessary to save Draco, one of his students, and Snape who made the unbreakable vow.  I really think Snape's dead regardless of his loyalties.  I do think someone in the Weasly family will die, and my guess is either Arnold, or Fred and George will be killed.
Title: Re: Harry Potter Book 7 Speculation
Post by: daltysmilth on July 08, 2007, 11:55:26 AM
You forget, however, that according to Barty Crouch Jr. (In the guise of Mad-Eye Moody) said that Voldemort did use the Avada Kedavra curse on Harry, and that Harry is the only person to ever survive the killing curse, because of the protection his mother gave him with the strength of her love .  And don't forget, Voldemort had already killed Harry's parents by the time he got to Harry, so that would surely have sufficed for the first part of the horcrux spell.  And I think Harry had postulated that Voldemort's snake, Nagini might be a horcrux herself, and if that's true, then it stands to reason that Voldemort would be able to transfer part of his soul into other living creatures as well.
Title: Re: Harry Potter Book 7 Speculation
Post by: Bob on July 08, 2007, 12:18:23 PM
I've never read a Harry Potter book or have seen any of the movies.   

I just hope that a bunch of losers dont post online how it end and ruins the surprise for everyone.   

From the Houston Paper.....

July 6, 2007, 5:11PM
BOOKS
Don't mess with those Potter fans
Some readers taking measures to avoid spoilers


By BEN NUCKOLS
Associated Press


BALTIMORE Lisa Miller arrived later than she should have for the midnight release of Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince on July 16, 2005 a slip-up she rues to this day.

It took about 20 minutes for Miller, 26, to get inside the London bookstore where she bought the sixth book in J.K. Rowling's juggernaut fantasy series. But before she had the novel in hand, a crucial plot point was ruined for her.

"Some 'lovely' person drove past where we were queuing and shouted the spoiler of who died in HBP," Miller wrote in an e-mail to the Associated Press. "It was so horrible to think of it being true that even when I read the book, I still held out hope that they were making it up!"

Pranksters pulled similar stunts worldwide. In Dallas, a driveby spoilsport yelled "Snape kills Dumbledore!" to fans gathered outside a Barnes & Noble. A blurry, shaky video of the verbal assault can be found on YouTube.

Now, as the July 21 release of the seventh and final book in the series, Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows, approaches, fans who have waited the better part of a decade to find out the ultimate fate of Harry, his friends and his nemeses are taking no chances.

But how far do they have to go? Must they close their eyes, cover their ears and scream, "LALALALA?"

Pretty much. In fact, if you want to get in touch with a rabid Harry Potter fan on the weekend of July 21-22, you might be out of luck.

Readers are planning media blackouts no computers, no cell phones, no TV, no radio. And if that's not enough, they're threatening to get physical.

"I'll beat the crap out of the person who spoils it for me," Pritthish Chakraborty wrote in an e-mail. Chakraborty, 17, who runs a fan Web site, Harry Potter Beyond, in his native Bangladesh, was spoiled two years ago when a "friend" sent a picture message to his cell phone of the page describing Dumbledore's death.

Many fans don't want to give up the excitement and camaraderie of a midnight release party, but they know they're putting themselves at risk.

"We advise people I know this is terrible to bring headphones to the book release and put them on as they leave the store so they're not subject to the idiot across the street screaming the end to them," said Melissa Anelli, a webmaster of the Leaky Cauldron, a prominent Harry Potter fan site.

But for many readers, contemplating the boy wizard's adventures is not a solitary experience but a communal one. Intent on maintaining that pleasure, the leading Potter fan sites are taking pains not to reveal key plot points until readers are ready to talk about them.

Anelli posted a manifesto outlining the Leaky Cauldron's strict no-spoilers policy that drew the praise of Rowling herself. Addressing those who might want to give away the ending, Anelli wrote: "We own pitchforks, hot wax and feathers. And we're not afraid to use them."

The Leaky Cauldron and Mugglenet, another high-profile fan site, will regulate everything that gets posted in the days leading up to and immediately following the release. When Mugglenet does start allowing discussion of the ending on its forums, readers will have to navigate through several warnings. The Leaky Cauldron might ban talk about the final chapters for as long as six months.

Other sites are more prone to attack. The Harry Potter Automated News Aggregator was besieged two years ago by new members, many of whom picked "Snape kills Dumbledore" as their username, said Jeff Guillaume, the site's editor in chief.

"They were just determined to spoil it for everybody else. We call them the worst kind of Muggles (nonmagic folk). Most of them are not even Harry Potter fans," Guillaume said. "People do it for this perverted pleasure, I guess."

In June, HPANA began banning newly registered members from posting anything, and the site will shut down entirely the weekend the book comes out, Guillaume said. Still, he can't guarantee that his site will be spoiler-free.

"We thought we had it under control last time," he said. "I would advise everyone to keep off the Internet until you're done reading."

Scholastic Inc., the book's American publisher, has taken unprecedented security measures to make sure none of the 12 million copies from the initial printing leak out before the publication date. But the company's responsibility to protect people from finding out who lives and who dies essentially ends at 12:01 a.m. on July 21, said Kyle Good, Scholastic's director of communications.

From then on, it's up to readers, librarians and booksellers to keep themselves and others from being spoiled.

Title: Re: Harry Potter Book 7 Speculation
Post by: DrForester on July 08, 2007, 01:39:29 PM
You forget, however, that according to Barty Crouch Jr. (In the guise of Mad-Eye Moody) said that Voldemort did use the Avada Kedavra curse on Harry, and that Harry is the only person to ever survive the killing curse, because of the protection his mother gave him with the strength of her love .  And don't forget, Voldemort had already killed Harry's parents by the time he got to Harry, so that would surely have sufficed for the first part of the horcrux spell.  And I think Harry had postulated that Voldemort's snake, Nagini might be a horcrux herself, and if that's true, then it stands to reason that Voldemort would be able to transfer part of his soul into other living creatures as well.

Yeah but Voldemort was trying to kill Harry and it backfired.  There would be no reason to try to turn a 1 year old baby that you're about to kill into a Horcrux.  Like I said, the killing curse is not supposed to leave a mark, or blow up houses.  More happened at that House than just Voldemort having a spell backfire on him.  I still think Harry Scar is the result of a failed Horcrux. 

Or, the Avada Kedarva curse itself could create that link, we know that in order to perform it one has to want to use it to pretty much summon within them pure evil to pull it off, it's not a casual spell at all.  An imprint of the user on the victim could be just a side effect of the spell, but since people don't survive it, no one has ever noticed. 

Also, don't forget that When Tom Riddle emerged from the Diary, he had (Or at least never gave any indication) that he knew anything about the current Voldemort beyond what Ginny told him .  He had no mental link to Voldemort, nor does Voldemort have any link that tells him the status of his Horcrux's (Hence him not knowing the Diary had been destroyed until Lucious told him).  Having some type of mental link seems to not have anything to do with Horcrux's.
Title: Re: Harry Potter Book 7 Speculation
Post by: daltysmilth on July 08, 2007, 03:40:59 PM
But the diary was not a living object.  And Voldemort was not aware of the mental link between himself and Harry until after Harry realized that Voldemort was trying to get into the Department of Mysteries.  And like I said before, I don't think Voldemort purposely made Harry a Horcrux.  And I never said that the destruction of the house had anything to do with the Avada Kedavra curse.  Although... we only know for sure what it looks like when the killing curse works.  We're not sure what happens when it fails, because, again, the only person who it failed to work on was Harry Potter.
Title: Re: Harry Potter Book 7 Speculation
Post by: anais.jude on July 09, 2007, 01:31:06 PM
I agree that Neville is becoming more important as a character, but I hope that Neville doesn't die. I want him and Luna to get together and have a bunch of weaird but cool babies!
Title: Re: Harry Potter Book 7 Speculation
Post by: Dim of the Yard on July 15, 2007, 01:39:00 PM
I know what happens at the end of the story.  The cast all sit in a diner and eat onion rings while listening to Journey's "Don't Stop Believing."  Suddenly, there's a blackout, then ten seconds of silence, then the credits roll.

But back on topic, I have heard two different spoilers for the book from people who swear that what they heard was true, and there was one fact in the one set of spoilers that contradicted the other spoiler I read.  As far as the supposed "spoilers" go, I'm chalking it all up to poorly named speculation.

I think that Hagrid is going to bite the magical, proverbial bullet.  He was essentially the one that introduced Harry to magic in the first place, and he's a pretty close friend of his.  I think he's just too close to Harry not to end up on the list of victims for Book 7.  And I've heard that Kreacher was going to be important to the plot, as well.  They almost took him out of the fifth movie, but when they ran it by JK, she said that if they did that, it would make the seventh movie very, very tricky.  So there's something else to think about there.

A friend of my mother's thinks that Harry is definitely going to live, although she doesn't use the canon to back that up.  She uses the fact that the Harry Potter series is getting its own theme park in Universal Studios.  (I think it's Universal Studios, anyway....)  Because, honestly, who in their right mind would dedicate a theme park to a book series where the main character dies?  If there isn't one thing in this world that saps the fun out of a place, it's the lingering fact that the beloved childhood character to which this park was dedicated to is six feet underground (or at least the Wizarding equivalent).

Whatever happens, I think my favorite part of the experience will be following the crazies of the fanbase.  I've seen somebody threaten to take her artwork off of the Internet if one particular character turned out to be... well, not up to her standards, I'll say.  I would go so far as to say that my favorite part of being a Harry Potter fan is keeping an eye on the fanbase and checking out their antics or their reactions to certain things.  Fun times for all.
Title: Re: Harry Potter Book 7 Speculation
Post by: Chaos on July 15, 2007, 04:04:20 PM
My personal feeling is that Harry is going to live - if for no other reason than the fact that Harry was intended to be the hero that children feel they can BE. If, after investing all of her energy into building up this very "real" feeling young boy, Rowling killed him off, I think that would send a VERY different message than she intends... yes, the books are dark, and harsh, because they are supposed to be a lesson about the difficulties of life - but they are also about the ability to perservere, win through, and come out on top. The good guys win, but at a great cost. So I don't think Harry is going to bite the bullet.

That being said, I have a feeling that Neville is probably going to end up on the wrong end of a deadly curse, that either Dumbledore or Black will end up not being dead after all (or WAS dead, but will somehow be brought back), and that one of the Horcruxes will turn out to be something left over from when Harry's parents were killed, since that was supposed to be part of Voldemort's final triumph.

I'm 50/50 on whether or not Ron is going to die - I think it's a very strong possibility, but I also think that JKR has a sense of self-preservation, and knows she would be in danger of assassination if she killed him off... there's a lot of lovin' for Ron on the net.

Incidentally, has anyone here read the fan fiction called "Harry's Last Adventure" over at www.veritaserum.com? The author took particular pains to explain and justify pretty much ALL of the loose ends that were left in the series after book 6... aside from the fact that it's fairly smutty (as pretty much all fan fiction is), I think she actually managed to accidentally get several things right. She also pretty much perfectly captured Harry's teen-angst-stupidity thing that always felt so real (and annoying) to me. I'll be interested to see how many of her leaps of logic turn out to match up perfectly with the real story.
Title: Re: Harry Potter Book 7 Speculation
Post by: J-Proof on July 16, 2007, 01:03:24 PM
I know what happens at the end of the story.  The cast all sit in a diner and eat onion rings while listening to Journey's "Don't Stop Believing."  Suddenly, there's a blackout, then ten seconds of silence, then the credits roll.

MUAHAHA! Best pop-culture/Harry Potter response EVER!
Title: Re: Harry Potter Book 7 Speculation
Post by: DrForester on July 16, 2007, 04:17:16 PM
I know what happens at the end of the story.  The cast all sit in a diner and eat onion rings while listening to Journey's "Don't Stop Believing."  Suddenly, there's a blackout, then ten seconds of silence, then the credits roll.

Been, Done
Title: Re: Harry Potter Book 7 Speculation
Post by: hare.29 on July 17, 2007, 11:20:27 AM
My money was on Harry dying, but with the Universal Themepark thing, I'm not so sure.
Snape, however, will die bravely saving someone else (that we like).
Title: Re: Harry Potter Book 7 Speculation
Post by: J-Proof on July 17, 2007, 12:55:21 PM
T'would be a fitting end for Snape.... As annoying as his hair is in the movies, he's one of my favorite characters.
Title: Re: Harry Potter Book 7 Speculation
Post by: Dim of the Yard on July 17, 2007, 01:39:44 PM
Has anybody heard of/seen the leaked Harry Potter book?  Apparently, somebody got their hands on an advanced copy of the book, took pictures of every page, and released it on the Internets.  I read some spoilers as to what happens (assuming that this isn't just one big, horrifically-convincing Photoshop job), and I must say... there's a lot of stuff in it that I'm not really happy about.  I'm not going to say anything to ruin the story for anybody else, but speaking only as a casual fan of the novels, I'm rather unimpressed by what sort of things the book is turning out.

I'm hoping it's a very intricate Photoshop and not the real book.  The only thing I did read from it was the Epilogue, and it read like a shoddy fanfiction.
Title: Re: Harry Potter Book 7 Speculation
Post by: Chaos on July 17, 2007, 03:26:04 PM
Has anybody heard of/seen the leaked Harry Potter book?  Apparently, somebody got their hands on an advanced copy of the book, took pictures of every page, and released it on the Internets.  I read some spoilers as to what happens (assuming that this isn't just one big, horrifically-convincing Photoshop job), and I must say... there's a lot of stuff in it that I'm not really happy about.  I'm not going to say anything to ruin the story for anybody else, but speaking only as a casual fan of the novels, I'm rather unimpressed by what sort of things the book is turning out.

I'm hoping it's a very intricate Photoshop and not the real book.  The only thing I did read from it was the Epilogue, and it read like a shoddy fanfiction.

Yeah, I heard about that, too (http://www.rifftrax.com/smf/index.php/topic,4354.msg116934.html#msg116934).

Also, here's a news article (http://www.canada.com/topics/entertainment/story.html?id=37b36e59-98fb-4783-963b-fb0044ff297e&k=95403) about the leak.
Title: Re: Harry Potter Book 7 Speculation
Post by: googergieger on July 18, 2007, 12:34:06 AM
i'm twenty one.
Title: Re: Harry Potter Book 7 Speculation
Post by: hare.29 on July 18, 2007, 07:50:46 AM
i'm twenty one.

 ???
Title: Re: Harry Potter Book 7 Speculation
Post by: googergieger on July 18, 2007, 04:10:16 PM
how is work in the lunchroom franky?
Title: Re: Harry Potter Book 7 Speculation
Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on July 18, 2007, 04:33:39 PM
heh this thread is freaken cool and all, but its gonna be nothing like the one that appears on sunday the discussion about that is gonna be cool. 
Title: Re: Harry Potter Book 7 Speculation
Post by: J-Proof on July 18, 2007, 04:39:51 PM
I agree with that one, Sarc--- we are gonan have a fangasmic release of verbal excrement in this thread come Sunday high noon.....
Title: Re: Harry Potter Book 7 Speculation
Post by: Chaos on July 18, 2007, 05:26:53 PM
Yeah... unless I can manage to finish the book before 5pm on Saturday, I'm going to be staying off the internet until I'm finished - I don't want some petty jackass to ruin the enjoyment for me by posting a bunch of actual spoilers.

My wife has a bad habit of flipping to the last chapter of a book to find out everything that happens, because she says the "no reason" secrets bug her - i.e. not the big mystery of the book, but the stuff that characters just aren't telling for no good reason... but I can't stand being taken out of the story... that's the best part.
Title: Re: Harry Potter Book 7 Speculation
Post by: Dim of the Yard on July 19, 2007, 12:14:33 PM
My sister is completely adamant about not hearing a single word about what happens in the book.  I've told her to go to the bookstore wearing headphones and blasting loud music while she buys her own copy.  She'd probably kill somebody if she heard even a single word about the last book, save for maybe, "The last word of the entire series ISN'T scar, after all."

Myself?  (shrug)
Title: Re: Harry Potter Book 7 Speculation
Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on July 19, 2007, 04:08:01 PM
seriously the last word isnt scar?  i thought jk said it still was?????????????????

well i ordered mine from amazon.  they promised to get it to me saturday or else its free.  i banking on i get a free copy of it.  ill be at the bx on saturday buying my copy and selling one of the two on sunday :) 
Title: Re: Harry Potter Book 7 Speculation
Post by: googergieger on July 19, 2007, 06:00:50 PM
someone comes back from the dead.

its not who you think either.

actually yeah it is.
Title: Re: Harry Potter Book 7 Speculation
Post by: YoohooRiffer on July 19, 2007, 06:50:47 PM
someone comes back from the dead.

its not who you think either.

actually yeah it is.

Is this your guess goog?  I didn't think so cause people can't come back from the dead, even in Potterland.

I think it'd be funnier if he just died but that obviously won't happen.  It's a kids book and they couldn't take it.
Title: Re: Harry Potter Book 7 Speculation
Post by: googergieger on July 19, 2007, 07:10:28 PM
ye of little faith.

theres magic that is outlawed, and hidden.

but one kid, turned man will find out.....

his destiny!

stand by for action!
Title: Re: Harry Potter Book 7 Speculation
Post by: googergieger on July 19, 2007, 11:25:09 PM
na i was just messing with you guys. nobody comes back to life. in fact its the opposite of that.

twice.
Title: Re: Harry Potter Book 7 Speculation
Post by: Tripe on July 20, 2007, 05:57:45 AM
Harry Potter, tyring of all the magical conflict releases his powers into the cosmos with unforeseen consequences.

Title: Re: Harry Potter Book 7 Speculation
Post by: Chaos on July 20, 2007, 07:53:57 AM
I can't wait until I can talk about it...

Some of it was good, some of it was kind of cop-out-y.

More tomorrow!
Title: Re: Harry Potter Book 7 Speculation
Post by: daltysmilth on July 20, 2007, 11:03:42 AM
na i was just messing with you guys. nobody comes back to life. in fact its the opposite of that.

twice.

So two people who used to be dead will die again?  Man, that's weird.

I can't wait until I can talk about it...

Some of it was good, some of it was kind of cop-out-y.

More tomorrow!

I hope you'll still use the spoiler button for the sake of those who haven't finished it by tomorrow.  In fact, if I may, I'd like to suggest that those of us who do read book 7 this weekend use the spoiler button whenever we discuss specifics of the book for at least two weeks, for the benefit of anyone who hasn't had a chance to read it yet within that time period.  After that, screw 'em!   ;)
Title: Re: Harry Potter Book 7 Speculation
Post by: Chaos on July 20, 2007, 11:08:34 AM
I hope you'll still use the spoiler button for the sake of those who haven't finished it by tomorrow.  In fact, if I may, I'd like to suggest that those of us who do read book 7 this weekend use the spoiler button whenever we discuss specifics of the book for at least two weeks, for the benefit of anyone who hasn't had a chance to read it yet within that time period.  After that, screw 'em!   ;)

Naturally. I have no intention of spoiling anything for anyone... I'm just eager to start talking about it. :)
Title: Re: Harry Potter Book 7 Speculation
Post by: anais.jude on July 20, 2007, 11:13:59 AM
I ordered my book from Great Brittain, so I don't know when I will be getting it. Hopefully tomorrow (since they already billed my credit card, and they aren't supposed to do that until the book is shipped). I am also gonna stay off the net until I read the book.
happy reading ya'll.
PS: I love my new sig!
Title: Re: Harry Potter Book 7 Speculation
Post by: J-Proof on July 20, 2007, 11:32:06 AM
I've brought this up with a few Potterites, but I take issue with this one seemingly inexcusable flaw:

What the heck is up with ghosts in this series? You can't raise someone from the dead, but their ghosts can still be present.... So.... can't Dumbledore just come back in ghost form to help Potter in an Obi Wan sort of way? Or how about Harry's parents? I've heard some people say that it must be that certain death curses make that impossible, but I have never read anything to officially confirm that, so I call shenanigans on Harry Potter ghosts....
Title: Re: Harry Potter Book 7 Speculation
Post by: daltysmilth on July 20, 2007, 11:45:55 AM
I've brought this up with a few Potterites, but I take issue with this one seemingly inexcusable flaw:

What the heck is up with ghosts in this series? You can't raise someone from the dead, but their ghosts can still be present.... So.... can't Dumbledore just come back in ghost form to help Potter in an Obi Wan sort of way? Or how about Harry's parents? I've heard some people say that it must be that certain death curses make that impossible, but I have never read anything to officially confirm that, so I call shenanigans on Harry Potter ghosts....

I'll get the brooms.
Title: Re: Harry Potter Book 7 Speculation
Post by: hare.29 on July 20, 2007, 11:54:34 AM
I've brought this up with a few Potterites, but I take issue with this one seemingly inexcusable flaw:

What the heck is up with ghosts in this series? You can't raise someone from the dead, but their ghosts can still be present....

Only if they die on Tuesdays.     Bureaucracies.  ::)
Title: Re: Harry Potter Book 7 Speculation
Post by: googergieger on July 20, 2007, 03:58:42 PM
na i was just messing with you guys. nobody comes back to life. in fact its the opposite of that.

twice.

So two people who used to be dead will die again?  Man, that's weird.

na.

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Title: Re: Harry Potter Book 7 Speculation
Post by: Chaos on July 20, 2007, 04:22:39 PM
na i was just messing with you guys. nobody comes back to life. in fact its the opposite of that.

twice.

So two people who used to be dead will die again?  Man, that's weird.

na.

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So tell me, goo... how does it feel to be wrong all the time? I've always wondered... ;)
Title: Re: Harry Potter Book 7 Speculation
Post by: googergieger on July 20, 2007, 04:23:48 PM
that mean you read the spoiler?

:D
Title: Re: Harry Potter Book 7 Speculation
Post by: Chaos on July 20, 2007, 04:33:59 PM
that mean you read the spoiler?

:D

I didn't read any spoiler, but I did read your rather sad attempt at a joke.

Or was this one of those 3% of the time deals where you thought you were being serious?

Nah, it was just more mean-spiritedness... your trademark! :)
Title: Re: Harry Potter Book 7 Speculation
Post by: googergieger on July 20, 2007, 04:35:35 PM
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but I did read your rather sad attempt at a joke.
Title: Re: Harry Potter Book 7 Speculation
Post by: Ator the Invincible on July 21, 2007, 12:32:33 AM
What is it with people and spoilers, even small, expected ones?  It's a form of high-dickery.

I was on facebook earlier and a guy I know had little snippets of "X dies" all over his profile...fricking jackass :gouge:
Title: Re: Harry Potter Book 7 Speculation
Post by: SharpMonkey on July 21, 2007, 01:18:00 PM
As a fan of good storytelling, I think everyone who cares deserves the chance to read for themselves how Dumbledore was a cylon!   :rimshot:

All kidding aside, I believe there is a special circle in hell for those who post genuine spoilers without taking the precautions to hide them from readers.  That's what threads with
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Title: Re: Harry Potter Book 7 Speculation
Post by: headlesschocolatebunny on July 21, 2007, 05:44:37 PM
I agree that Neville is becoming more important as a character, but I hope that Neville doesn't die. I want him and Luna to get together and have a bunch of weaird but cool babies!

weird but cool babies are cool!  ;D