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Title: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: SecretAgentSuperDragon on September 30, 2006, 08:17:14 PM
Hi everyone. SecretAgentSuperDragon here and I thought I would make my first post an important one. How many of you have wondered if there is a better way to experience rifftrax rather than using an ipod and a dvd player? Many have talked about very complicated procedures in syncing the rifftrax up with the video. Well I come to you today to give you the OFFICIAL RIFFTRAX DVD CREATION GUIDE.  First off, let me show you what dvd tools you will need. (P.S. , Don't worry about software cost because all these items are freeware, so enjoy.) Also, let me advocate that you should follow these instructions only if you own the movie, otherwise it is copyright infringement and the Gov't is being a pain about it nowadays.

Mac Users can follow this link for a Mac-centric guide prepared by k1posterchild:
http://home.comcast.net/~k1posterchild/Rifftrax_to_DVD_on_osx.doc (http://home.comcast.net/~k1posterchild/Rifftrax_to_DVD_on_osx.doc)

or use this mac guide posted by dr9553: http://www.quickstream.tv/rifftrax/



If you seem to have trouble with the mac guide, check out Post 296 (http://www.rifftrax.com/smf/index.php/topic,413.msg94934.html#msg94934) on here for some tips.

       DON'T BE FRIGHTENED BY THE QUANTITY OF TOOLS. MOST ARE RELATIVELY SMALL AND YOU'LL BE GLAD ONCE YOU HAVE THEM.

Ingredient List:
DVD Decrypter (http://fileforum.betanews.com/sendfile/1011845169/1/SetupDVDDecrypter_3.5.4.0.exe) - Rips DVD files from the DVD and puts it on your desktop.

delaycut (http://jsoto.posunplugged.com/tools/delaycut_1212_exe.zip) - A neccesary little tool that fixes your audio file after it is ran through DVD decrypter.

PX3Convert (http://www.videohelp.com/download/px3conv_004.zip) - Simple audio software that allows you to convert the DVD audio files into Wav files.

Audacity (http://audacity.sourceforge.net/latest/audacity-win/audacity-win-1.2.4b.exe) - Audio program that you will use to Sync up the Rifftrax to the DVD audio.

ffmpegGUI (http://www.videohelp.com/download/ffmpeggui03c.zip) - 3rd (small) audio program that lets you change your Final Rifftrax wav file back into ac3.

Ifoedit (http://www.digital-digest.com/software/getdownload.php?sid=400&did=1) - Program that takes your audio and video files, and makes it into a single file ready for DVDShrink.
NOTE: As an alternate to Ifoedit(in case Ifoedit isn't working properly), you can use the program rejig (http://download.videohelp.com/download/Rejig05f.zip).  When you start it up, just click DVD Author, and follow the same instructions as Ifoedit.

DVDShrink (http://www.afterdawn.com/software/video_software/dvd_rippers/dvd_shrink.cfm) - Final program that compresses your files to fit onto a single disc, and then burns them.

A DVD R/RW drive
Your Rifftrax commentary(s)
A GED (Just Kidding. It's pretty easy.)

RIFFTRAX LITE DVD GUIDE
For those of you who do not wanna mess around with the full guide, I have created a faster guide with half the calories for you to follow. This Guide requires only  Rejig (http://download.videohelp.com/download/Rejig05f.zip), DVDShrink (http://www.afterdawn.com/software/dawnload.cfm?mirror=0&software_id=519) & DVD Decrypter (http://fileforum.betanews.com/sendfile/1011845169/1/SetupDVDDecrypter_3.5.4.0.exe)(For burning purposes), PX3Convert (http://www.videohelp.com/download/px3conv_004.zip), Audacity (http://audacity.sourceforge.net/latest/audacity-win/audacity-win-1.2.4b.exe), ffmpegGUI (http://www.videohelp.com/download/ffmpeggui03c.zip), & ChapterXtractor (http://download.videohelp.com/download/ChapterXtractor_v0.962.zip). So let's get started:

LITE STEP 1: Ripping the files
After downloading your tools, create a folder on your desktop where you'll wanna save
your movie files. After the folder is created, pop in your DVD(it knows why it's here)
to your drive, and open up your Rejig program.[NOTE: When you first open rejig,
go to Settings and make sure the old engine is checked.
] Click on the IFO Mode
button and a new window will open. Your main movie file should already be highlighted.
Don't mess with the Correct AC3 Delay box, and check the demux video
tab.(Don't mess w/ the chapters in this, for some reason, rejig messes up the chapters.
This is why we will be using Chapter Xtractor instead.)
After that, go to the far right
box and checkmark the video file, and the audio file right below it(If there is a 2channel
audio on the dvd, select that for easier audio editing in audacity.)
(If you want to add
any other foreign language audio or subs, go aheadand do that too.) Click on the three
periods (...) next to output directory and create a new "movie files folder" (you will save
your chapter times in here) for the output directory. Click Process and let it work it's magic.
      While this is doing it's thing, open your ChapterXtractor, and before you open the IFO file, go
      to the Format tab.  Delete all the text in the Header field.  Change the format field to %fn (that's
      percent f backslash n).  Then open the IFO file. Click on open IFO,
      find your dvd drive, click on it, then click on Video_TS, then double click VTS_01_0
      (or whatever VTS file shows the chapters for the whole movie). This will get you your
      chapter times. Go to the format tab, then click "Save Data", and save it as "Chapter
      Times" or something like that into your "movie files folder".
      Then we can move onto step 2.

LITE STEP 2: Converting the AC3
Open up PX3Convert and click on the "..." tab next to the AC3-File icon and
find your AC3 audio file. Then for the WAVfile tab, choose a name for your
WAV audio file (maybe Regular Movie Audio) and go ahead and click Start Convert.
Your new Wav file should be created, so let's go to lite step 3.

LITE STEP 3: Syncing up the movie audio with the rifftrax
Open up Audacity, drag the Movie's WAV file into there, let it load, then do the
same with the rifftrax mp3. Now for some editing. You'll wanna highlight the first couple
minutes of the rifftrax to the point after Mike says "1 2 3 Pause". Hit the silence button
(right next to the cut button) and that part will be silenced. Then cut away parts of the
beginning of the silenced rifftrax until disembaudio syncs up with the lines in the movie.(Do
this by looking at the rifftrax readme file, finding the time difference between the rifftrax and
the DVD, and cutting away that amount of time from the beginning of the rifftrax.)
Now you can leave Dis's voice in, but seeing as though you already have the movie lined up,
you can silence his sync lines as well. For quick and effective audio editing, first, make sure you
have the 2 channel movie audio. To be able to hear the rifftrax, even during the loud parts of
the movie, go to the far left side of the rifftrax, and move the gain marker(the one between
the plus and minus signs) to +3 db. For the movie audio, move it to -3 db, and you will be in
business. Go ahead and click file and click export as wav. It will combine the 2
audio files into a shiny new WAV file.(If you do not have enough space on your computer,
you can try exporting it as an mp3. I'm pretty sure it works the same in ffmpeggui).
Now to lite step 4.

LITE STEP 4: Converting the Riffed Movie Wav file back to AC3
Open up ffmpeggui, click browse next to Audio Source, and choose
your riffed movie wav file. click browse next to audio output and save the
file as "RiffedMovieAC3file" into your movie files folder. Then click convert
and let it finish. To lite step 5.

LITE STEP 5: Authoring everything together
Open Rejig again, this time clicking on the DVD Author button. Choose
your video file for the video tab, your riffed ac3 and regular audio
file for the audio tab, the chapters file for the chapter tab(make sure that it
is set to NTSC or PAL depending on the dvd's version), & the (optional) subtitle file
for the subpicture tabNote: If you choose to have subtitles, make sure to click
the Original IFO tab and find VTS_01_0 (under your DVD drive directory,same thing
you did for the chapters)to get the original subtitle color. Otherwise, they'll look like
crap.
. Go to Destination and select a new, empty folder for
your output files, and click Create. Let it finish, then go to lite step 6.

LITE STEP 6: Shrinking and burning to DVD
Open up DVD Shrink, and click the Open Files button. Find your newly authored
files folder, select Video_TS, and click OK. The movie will shrink if it needs to.
(Optional: Click analysis if you have 15-30 minutes to kill for slightly better video
quality.) Click Backup and under the Select Backup Target tab, choose
"ISO Image File and burn with DVD Decrypter". Then click OK. It will create the ISO
file and automatically open up DVD Decrypter when it's done. Slip in a blank DVD, click
Write To DVD button, and it will start to burn. Check the delete ISO after
burning
box, and pretty soon, you will have your new RIFFTRAX LITE DVD.

Enjoy! Any questions or problems, post 'em here and we'll help out.

THE MAIN GUIDE

STEP 1: After downloading all the tools. We are ready to make movies. The first

step is to take your Cheesy DVD and place it in your computer's dvd r/rw drive.

When the selection screen pops up, close it. Go to My Computer and right click on

the drive that contains your movie. A list of options will appear in a little dialogue

box. Select "Decrypt Using DVD Decrypter". The DVD Decrypter program will open

and start analyzing the DVD. More than likely, a box will pop up asking you to

select the region code of the dvd. Most of the time there is only one option, and it

has already been chosen, so just click the OK button at the bottom of the box.

Now, you will be at the main menu of the program. Before we start ripping, we have

to alter some options. Go to "mode" at the top of the window, click it, and

make sure that there is a checkmark next to IFO. If there isn't, make it

so.(Side Note 1: To make sure your files don't split, go to options, then go to

IFO options, and make sure that the tab that says file splitting is set to

none. Also, if you would like to have chapters for your movie, you can check

the box marked Chapter Information - IfoEdit. It's on the same page as the

file splitting options.
) Then the program should go through the same initial

stuff with the Region Code and what not. Once you are again at the main menu,

you should see two tabs to the left: Input and Stream Processing. DVD

Decrypter will have already highlighted the main movie under the Input tab. Now

go to the Stream Processing tab. There will be a bunch of Video and Audio files with

check boxes next to them. Make sure all the boxes are unchecked except for the

Video box(At the very top of the list) And one Audio box(Ex: Audio-AC3/6ch/English).

(Side Note 2: If you want subtitles or a commentary track in your movie, you

can check them too. The IFOedit program let's you have subtitles, and more than 1

audio track for your IFO file, but I usually select Mike's track as the primary one,

and the regular audio track as the secondary one.
) Then right click and select

set all checked to demux, or something along those lines. Once ready,

create a new folder on your desktop with the movie title in it. Then click on the

folder next to destination on your DVD Decrypter and choose your newly

created folder on the desktop as your destination for the files. Once that is done,

click the DVD button below it and let it go to town. It Should take between 10 and

20 minutes depending on your Burner's speed. Once it is finished, close it out and

we go to step 2.


STEP 2: Open up the delaycut program because more than likely, your audio file in

your desktop folder will be delayed.(If the Audio(AC3) file says "delayed #ms" at

the end of your file you will need to do this." Click on browse under the input option

and select your audio file. Then click PROCESS at the bottom of the window and let

it process the audio file. After it is done, it will output the fixed audio file in the

same folder. The two files may look the same, but the processed will have the word

"fixed" at the end of the filename. Delete the delayed file to avoid further

confusion. Now you are ready for step 3.


STEP 3: Open up the PX3Convert program and click on the "..." tab next to the AC3-File

icon and browse around and find the AC3 movie audio and click open. Then for the WAV

file tab, choose a name for your WAV audio file (maybe Regular Movie Audio) and go

ahead and click Start Convert.Your new Wav file should be created, so let's

go to step 4.

ALTERNATE AUDIO CHOICE: If you feel you could handle a more challenging audio

converter than px3 convert, I would highly recommend BeSweet(The program) coupled with BeLight(The GUI).

Downloads and Instructions on how to use them are available here. (http://www.free-codecs.com/download/BeLight.htm)

After downloading and having the Belight Gui properly set up, open belight, and for input,

find your ac3 file, and for output, name your outputted wav file(I usually call it Regular wav audio.wav).

Make Sure the WAV/PCM tab is selected and the output format selected is WAV @ 16 Bits Stereo.

Check dynamic compression and make sure it says normal. Don't check sampling rate, but

check Boost Mode and make sure it is set to LigH. Finally, check mode with Hybrid Gain

selected, and your ready to go(Don't worry about checking all these boxes again.They'll be preselected

each time you do this.) Click start, and it will begin converting for you at a rate of 1 minute of audio

converted every 3 seconds. The advantage of using this audio converter is that it normalizes the movie

audio quite well, and makes it so in audacity, you don't have to reduce loud parts or raise quiet parts.

Basically, all you will have to do is raise the rifftrax to +3db(sometimes not even that), sync it up, and output.

It is much faster, and much less time consuming. So see if you can swing it. ;).


STEP 4: Run Audacity and drag the Movie Audio Wav file you just made into it. After it loads,

drag the rifftrax mp3 into Audacity and give it time to load. It will take around

a minute to load each one. This now is the fun part. You are

going to be editing the rifftrax audio file. Usually the first 2 minutes are

introductions and you wil want to get rid of that. So highlight from the beginning all

the way up to where Mike tells you to pause. Click the cut button near the upper

mid right corner of the program. Now you want to make the disembaudio lines sync

up with movie lines. Follow the rifftrax instructions to find out at what point in the

movie the line is said. If it is said before disembaudio says it, you will want to cut

some silence from the beginning of the movie. If it is said after disembaudio says

it, you will want to add silence to the beginning of the movie.(You can do this by

copying a silent part out of the commentary and pasting it to the beginning). Just

fool around till the lines are synced up. Now you can either leave disembaudio in

the movie, OR SILENCE HIM!!! (Side Note 3: If you have a rated R movie and

you find the language too offensive for yourself or for others watching with you, you

can use the following silencing technique on the movie audio to blank out the curse

words.
)To silence him once the movie is synced up, just highlight each one

of his lines, one by one, and click the silence button next to the cut,copy,and paste

buttons. Once you have done that to all of them, go to File and click Export as

Wav
. This will mix the two sound tracks together into one wav file. You will

probably want to output this file into your DVD files folder on the Desktop. Once it

has been mixed, we move onto short little step 5.


STEP 5: Open up the weird sounding ffmpegGUI program. Once open, click the browse

button next to audio source and choose your newly created rifftrax movie audiofile.

Make sure under format it says AC3 and output the file into your DVD files folder.

Once you have selected your folder, click the convert button and it will convert your

Wav file into AC3. After it converts it, you can delete all your space consuming Wav

files since we will not be needing them anymore. Onward to Step 6.


STEP 6: Open the Ifoedit program and go to the DVD author tab and click Author

New DVD
. For Video, click the period button and select your M2V Video file. For

Audio, click the period button and choose your Commentary AC3 file you created in

Audacity. Now you have the option of either having that single Rifftrax audiofile OR

having the rifftrax file and the regular movie audiofile w/o the commentary.

That way, you can have the option of listening to the movie with or without the

commentary when you press the audio button on your dvd remote. Either way, its

all good. Now for the output file, you will want to create a new folder on your

Desktop labled "Final Files" or something along those lines. After you have your

output files ready to go into your Final Files folder, then click OK. It will take about

5 or 10 minutes. After it finishes, close the program and move onto the FINAL STEP.


FINAL STEP: Open DVDShrink and go to the Open Files tab. Select your

Final Files folder and click OK. It will analyze the movie and shrink the file to

fit onto a single dvd disc. After analyzation is done, click on Backup. There

will be a new window with several tabs. Don't pay attention to any of them except

for the one your on, called "Target Device". Under Select Backup Target, choose the

ISO Image File and burn with DVD Decrypter option. MAKE SURE YOU

SWITCH OUT YOUR MOVIE DVD FOR A BLANK DVD, then click OK and DVD Decrypter

will automatically open up and start burning your DVD. Make sure to check the

erase ISO file box since the ISO file take up about 4 GB. The burning will take

around 10 to 15 minutes. Once it finishes, you have....

                                                             YOUR SHINY NEW RIFFTRAX DVD!!!!!


Go to your nearest DVD player, and make sure it works. Once your done crying your

tears of joy, delete all of your leftover Movie Files and folders on your Desktop (NOT

THE TOOLS), and enjoy your own Homemade RIFFTRAX DVD. I have done this with

X-Men and Star Trek and they both turned out fantastic. No Video quality loss or

anything.

So I hope this guide will help you in all of your Rifftrax DVD making adventures.

Now if you will excuse me, I gotta go drain the Superdragon ;D. Have Fun.



This guide copyrighted by SecretAgentSuperDragon. September 30, 2006.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: Hank on September 30, 2006, 11:18:23 PM
What I did:

Tools
DVDDecrypter
Goldwave
dvd2avi
TMPEG DVD Author Pro

1. Rip with DVDDecrypter (or any other ripper will do)
2. use  Goldwave to convert Riff into wav, then trim it from right after Mike says "now", save as PCM 16-bit stereo.
EDIT: Also, select each Disembaudio sync line and mute (one by one). I also muted out Disembaudio's "riffing" in the solo Mike riffs.3. rip dvd audio to wav with dvd2avi and load into Goldwave (already open).
4. Select All and Copy Riff
5. Mix Riff at entry point for movie (start marker at: 1 minute for 5th Element, 18 seconds for Star Trek, 44.3 seconds for X-Men, Crossroads and Top Gun coming soon)
6. Save Riff as wav (it will be huge, a bit over 1 Gig)
7. I use TMPEG DVD Author Pro, which accepts 2 audio tracks (to hear original audio, if desired) and will convert the Riff audio to ac3 (needed for DVD and smaller size). You can also create chapter menus, naming them with the ttles found in the Readme file.
8. Build DVD and burn. I use Imgburn to create an iso and burn it. I suggest using a DVD-RW (or DVD+RW) to test and make sure the audio levels are right.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: SaucyRossy on September 30, 2006, 11:57:37 PM
this may very well be the best topic ever created...thank you so much.  ;D
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: Qrusher14242 on October 01, 2006, 05:15:31 PM
Thanks for this!  ;D I fnally got my first rifftrax dvd, watched Roadhouse. Man its just like old times with MST.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on October 01, 2006, 05:19:31 PM
wow someone had a lot of time on his hands lol
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: SecretAgentSuperDragon on October 01, 2006, 06:09:51 PM
wow someone had a lot of time on his hands lol

Well, somebody had to do it. And Spock did say that my guide was very "logical." :D
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: gammer on October 01, 2006, 06:11:15 PM
Good work!

I wanted to put more into the instructions I have on my page, but just never found the time. I'm glad someone else did it in more detail.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: Conor on October 01, 2006, 07:51:28 PM
Any additions or corrections, let a mod know and we can edit them into the main post.

We'll unlock this, but keep this discussion on topic.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: Shinigami on October 04, 2006, 08:37:31 AM
I would like to make a few additions from my own experience with DVD authoring.

There's a very nice feature with DVDDecrypter that no one has pointed out.  Go to Settings and then to the IFO tab in DVD Decrypter.  On the right side you will notice additional files you can output.  This includes chapter information in various formats.  I personally use DVD-Lab but IfoEdit format is also there.  When you do a demux, the chapter information will be there.  All you have to do is import the file into your DVD authoring program and you have instant chapters.

For converting sound from AC3 to Wav, I use BeLight.  BeLight is an alternate GUI for BeSweet, and the conversions are really good quality.  It has alot of settings you can mess with, and it has a fix delay feature built in.  This way you don't need to use DelayCut.  BTW, it seems to always pick the correct delay, so you don't even have to think about it.

http://www.videohelp.com/tools?tool=BeLight (http://www.videohelp.com/tools?tool=BeLight)

When using Audacity to edit the Wav, don't bother converting the rifftrax to Wav.  It's a waste of time, resources, and will in no way increase quality.  Audacity can handle MP3's without a hitch, including mixing it with a Wav.

DVD audio HAS to be set at 48000HZ.  I'm not sure if ffmpeggui automatically does this conversion, but its so easy to fix why bother risking it.  In Audacity, in the bottom left hand corner is the project sample rate.  Click on that and change it to 48000 if it isn't already.  This way when you do "Export to Wav..", you know you're getting a DVD compatible file.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: Tarantulas on October 04, 2006, 08:42:36 AM
For those of you who convert your DVDs to AVIs, there is a cool program that makes short work of it.

Auto Gordian Knot is pretty much a one stop shop and automated the entire process.

http://www.autogk.me.uk/ (http://www.autogk.me.uk/)

The only thing not included is a program to "rip" the DVD.  But how you do that is between you, Hollywood, and the DMCA ;)

Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: SmilinJackRoss on October 04, 2006, 11:15:06 AM
Mac Users can follow this link for a Mac-centric guide prepared by k1posterchild:

http://home.comcast.net/~k1posterchild/Rifftrax_to_DVD_on_osx.doc (http://home.comcast.net/~k1posterchild/Rifftrax_to_DVD_on_osx.doc)

This is a wonderful step by step guide.  I'm also on a mac, and I do it similarily, except for the beginning part.  Where this guide uses Mac The Ripper, I use Handbrake, which is also a freeware program you can download.  It works great, and it rips the DVD directly as an MPEG4 file, so you don't have to do any file conversion, you can just drag this file directly into iMovie..

The only other thing I do differently is that when editing out disembaudios lines in iMovie, I don't turn the volume up and down, I cut the audio out completely.  To do this I put the playhead right before DA's line, then hit "command + T" to put a cut in the rifftrax audio.  Do the same right after the DA line, then click on that small clip, and hit backspace.  Poof, the DA line is gone.  To me it's quicker.

But a great walk-thru k1posterchild!
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: k1 on October 04, 2006, 12:54:15 PM

The only other thing I do differently is that when editing out disembaudios lines in iMovie, I don't turn the volume up and down, I cut the audio out completely.  To do this I put the playhead right before DA's line, then hit "command + T" to put a cut in the rifftrax audio.  Do the same right after the DA line, then click on that small clip, and hit backspace.  Poof, the DA line is gone.  To me it's quicker.

But a great walk-thru k1posterchild!

Thanks!
I didn't mention in the guide that I cut out the sync lines.  I only use the volume up/down for the back and forth between Mike & DA.

I'll have to give the Handbrake a shot.  (How's the quality on the rip?)
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: SmilinJackRoss on October 04, 2006, 01:07:26 PM
Thanks!
I didn't mention in the guide that I cut out the sync lines.  I only use the volume up/down for the back and forth between Mike & DA.

I'll have to give the Handbrake a shot.  (How's the quality on the rip?)

I have a 52" widescreen TV, and when it's blown up that big I can definitely tell there's a drop in quality (some pixelation).  But on a normal TV, I can't really tell there's much of a drop in quality at all.  In all, it's good enough for me, but you'll have to try it yourself to see if it's acceptable to you.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: Shinigami on October 04, 2006, 08:44:42 PM
I found out something else today.  BeLight has Dynamic Range Compression built in.  So you can put the setting to Light.  This will make loud noises softer and soft noises louder, makes it alot easier to adjust Rifftrax audio gain.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: BathTub on October 05, 2006, 01:04:28 PM
Hmm ok, trying X-Men, DVD Decrypter outputs the video in 1 gig chunks. so when it gets time to use ifoedit, it only takes the first file and makes only 20 minutes of video.

what am I missing?

Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: SecretAgentSuperDragon on October 05, 2006, 02:03:38 PM
So you made sure it was in ifo mode, the xmen main feature (which I believe is around 1 hour 40 min) was selected under stream processing, and the demux options were set for the audio and video? Hey, which audio did you choose to do? I know that there is 2-channel AC3 and 6 Channel DTS. When I did X-men, I used the 2 channel, maybe try that out.

Also, if its doing 1 gig chunks or .99 gb chunks, I think it is probably because you are in File mode and not ifo. Make sure you are, and try it again.

On another note to all the posters, I haven't tried Belight yet, but I wanna try it out? It sounds like it takes up less space than GoldWave, plus it already has the delaycut feature in it, which is cool.

Also, some advice for the audio overlapping: I realize that when I watch the DVDs sometimes, the cheesy movies always seem to jack up the volume on the action scenes and turn it down on the talking scenes. If you want to take extra time to do so, you can highlight the action scenes and turn them down or vice versa with the commentary by turning it up. That's all for now.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: BathTub on October 05, 2006, 02:11:03 PM
I found it, under options it was set to spit at a gig, plus goldwave hated the ac3 file so I had to belight for this one, almost done though.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: Hank on October 05, 2006, 07:19:20 PM
, the cheesy movies always seem to jack up the volume on the action scenes and turn it down on the talking scenes. If you want to take extra time to do so, you can highlight the action scenes and turn them down or vice versa with the commentary by turning it up.

Crossroads is the worst offender so far. The volume is doubled whenever a song plays. To top it off, Mike seems to almost whisper during those scenes. Actually, there's a lot of trailing off in this Riff. I had to do a ton of editing to equalize Mike's voice (Such lines as "Madonna" "What is she bouncing on?", to name a couple.

X-Men, ST:V and Boron were great (very well equalized).
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: MrTorso on October 05, 2006, 09:09:32 PM
I found it, under options it was set to spit at a gig, plus goldwave hated the ac3 file so I had to belight for this one, almost done though.

Yeah you don't wanting it spitting at your gigs!  ;)
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: BathTub on October 06, 2006, 03:00:48 AM
Heh  ;D

Well it ain't pretty but I have a X-men rifftrax iso, which is literally just that, play the disc and it just auto plays X-men with the rifftrax commentary. For my next attempt (probably Boron) I will try things like chapters, and maybe keeping the original audio as well.

Thanks for the guide, it helped a lot.

I was very surprised at how easy the audio was to sync up, shows how the drift is pretty much entirely in the playing of the 2 files.  As soon as I had the right number of seconds of silence at the start all the lines were in sync. Then I muted the sync lines.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: Qrusher14242 on October 06, 2006, 04:17:50 AM
Heh  ;D

Well it ain't pretty but I have a X-men rifftrax iso, which is literally just that, play the disc and it just auto plays X-men with the rifftrax commentary. For my next attempt (probably Boron) I will try things like chapters, and maybe keeping the original audio as well.

Thanks for the guide, it helped a lot.

I was very surprised at how easy the audio was to sync up, shows how the drift is pretty much entirely in the playing of the 2 files.  As soon as I had the right number of seconds of silence at the start all the lines were in sync. Then I muted the sync lines.

Did you use Dynamic Range compression on xmen? i made an xmen rifftrax, but the xmen audio was ripped so low that you could barely hear it. But then the explosions were so high you couldnt hear bill or mike. Very frustrating. Roadhouse was the best one i've had so far, soundwise.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: The_Flash on October 06, 2006, 06:01:12 AM
I used "normal" dynamic range compression in BeLight/BeSweet for X-Men.  When I put it all together and watched it, it seemed fine.  I think I like my Road House DVD best of all so far, too.  I reduced original audio volume to 70% and raised Mike's voice another 7dB. 

Adjusting the RiffTrax and original DVD's audio levels seems to be the most time consuming for me, as each DVD is different.  Some DVDs I've used a different DRC on, and/or adjusted the normalization to make the volume level lower to better hear Mike.  On the 5th Element's original audio I used a bass reducing preset in GoldWave, as some of the rumbling was too much when trying to listen to Mike.  Maybe you could try this with X-Men?

You can also tweak a lot of settings when encoding your final Ac3 file.  I like the encoder included with the old Scenarist authoring package as it includes a setting for commentary tracks as well as a separate option for dialog normalization on the output file.

Like I said, audio mixing seems to be the most time consuming, maybe because I've become so anal with it.  I'm always curious to see what others have done with certain DVDs.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: BathTub on October 06, 2006, 12:05:54 PM
I haven't watched xmen yet so I didn't do anything altering of the audio.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: SecretAgentSuperDragon on October 07, 2006, 11:59:22 AM
You might wanna go back then. All of the action parts go from 0-60 db in like 5 seconds. I remember trying to watch Rogue talk at the beginning, and I could barely hear her. Then once I turned the volume up, then some loud scene happened and my ears are still bleeding. I would take the original X-men dvd, time all of the action sequences from their start to end, then go through audacity and reduce the original action audio while increasing Mike and Bill's commentary. I didn't do it the first time, and 1/4 of the jokes were pretty much covered up by ACTION!!! I will be re doing it again. I am pretty sure it will turn out better.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: BathTub on October 07, 2006, 01:14:33 PM
I've listened to random bits, I'll go back if I have to. can't be as bad as STV was.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: Torgo on October 07, 2006, 01:17:32 PM
Here's how to prevent DVD Decrypter from breaking your video files into 1GB chunks.
From the top line of DVE Decrypte menu select TOOLS, then select SETTINGS. Then select the IFO Mode Tab. Under the OPTIONS section change the FILE SPLITTING setting from the pull down menu to NONE.

That's what fixed it for me.

This is really great -- It makes watching the RiffTrax much more easier.

Torgo
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: BathTub on October 10, 2006, 07:53:00 AM
Yeah, as I mentioned earlier ;)

So Cocktail looks like it is next, any comments on the audio levels for that one?

Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: Shinigami on October 10, 2006, 10:56:41 AM
I would like to add something else.  I figured out how to get the subtitles into the re-authored DVD.  This is very nice for keeping track of dialogue while Mike is riffing. 

DVD Decrypter can demux subtitles the same way as audio and video.  However, the file it produces is very unuseful.  You need to use sub2sup to convert the sub file.  The resultant sup file can be used by Rejig, IfoEdit, and DVDAuthorGUI to author DVDs.  It CANNOT be used by DVD-Lab Pro (much to my frustration).  If you want to use DVD-Lab, you have to convert the Sup or Sub file using SubRip to either a text format or a BMP format.  This is a long frustrating process, so now I'm using ReJig to make DVDs.

BTW, I've read that you should use ReJig for NTSC and IfoEdit for PAL.  Each program apparently has errors handling the opposite format.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: Torgo on October 17, 2006, 02:50:40 PM
Torgo have question......

I would like to leave the Rifftrax intro/instruction section on the DVD soundtrack when I re-author my DVD.

Does anyone know the best way to best do this and still be able to sync up the 2 tracks with the video? Could it be done within IFOEDIT?

I thought that I saw this posted elsewhere on the board but I can't find it.

Maybe the Master would know....
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: SecretAgentSuperDragon on October 17, 2006, 05:31:34 PM
You might have to add blank video to the beginning, that is the only way I could think of doing that. I wouldn't know how to do it persay, but I am sure there are someprograms that would let you do it.

Either that, or just move the intro to the end of the movie if you wanna hear it, there is usually plenty of free space in the credits.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: badronald on October 17, 2006, 08:59:59 PM
I make the intro into its own DVD "extra feature".   Using DVDlab I create a slide show with the intro section as the soundtrack & the slides consist of the text description of the movie that I copied from Rifftrax webpage.  I also mix stills from the movie into the slideshow.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: SmilinJackRoss on October 18, 2006, 09:14:26 PM
First off, I'm on a mac.  So far, I have had no problems reauthoring my DVDs with the rifftrax on them.  But The Matrix is the longest rifftrax yet, and it seems to be too long to fit on a single layer DVDR.  When I put it into iDVD, it tells me that my project is too big and that I must remove some content.  I tried re-ripping the DVD at a smaller target size, but it doesn't seem to matter, it's still too long.  Is there any way that I can get a movie this long onto a 4.2 gig DVDR, or is it simply too long of a movie?  Or do I have to (gulp) put it on two discs??

I'm ripping the movie as a MP4 using Handbrake.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: Hank on October 18, 2006, 10:48:47 PM
First off, I'm on a mac.  ... But The Matrix is the longest rifftrax yet, and it seems to be too long to fit on a single layer DVDR.

Try here (http://forum.videohelp.com/viewtopic.php?t=294743)

or here (http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/18193)
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: MrTorso on October 19, 2006, 01:27:21 AM
When using the DELAY CUT program... do you just use it straight outta box so to speak or how do you know what settings to use?
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: gammer on October 19, 2006, 06:42:04 AM
1) How big is the Matrix if you just rip the movie alone?
I've been finding that all but a couple of rifftrax movies have been under 4.35GB after I rip just the M2V and AC3 file.
If the Matrix movie by itself is not too much bigger then this, then I'd just make my reauther and shrink it with DVD shrink. Alternitavely, if it requires an considerable ammount of compression to shrink it to under 4.35GB, then I'd re-encode the M2V file with a software encoder like TMPGEnc at a *slow* setting so it does a better job with compression artifacts.

2)I use older versoin of AC3 Delay cut...its called AC3 delay corrector. From what I've found, any thing less then 32ms of delay you wont notice. Also if you decide to re-encode with TMPGEnc then there is an option in it to correct the audio delay. I can't remember the exact terminology as I am not at my "media" computer right now, but I know its in the "Source Range" when you walk through the wizard. Note that most versions of TMPGEnc do not support AC3 files, so I recommend using wave files then converting the wave to AC3 when complete.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: SmilinJackRoss on October 19, 2006, 07:13:44 AM
1) How big is the Matrix if you just rip the movie alone?

Using Handbrake, you can only rip the movie alone, you don't get menus or anything else.  But you can choose the file size you want to rip at.  Up to this point, I have always chosen an average bitrate of 1000 kbps, and I haven't had a problem.  But when The Matrix turned out to be "too big", I went back to Handbrake and re-ripped the movie, this time at a target size of 900 MB (a size that has worked for other shorter movies).  But when I import it into the iDVD, it didn't make the file size any smaller.  It still says that it's too big (barely, the file size is 4.3 gigs, and disc space it 4.2 gigs).  I'm going to give DVDShrink a try, but if anybody else has any suggestions, please post them.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: gammer on October 19, 2006, 08:00:08 AM
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Using Handbrake, you can only rip the movie alone, you don't get menus or anything else.  But you can choose the file size you want to rip at.  Up to this point, I have always chosen an average bitrate of 1000 kbps, and I haven't had a problem.

Sounds like Handbrake isn't actually ripping the movie; its actually re-encoding the movie.
So yes, you will have to set the bitrate correctly so it doesnt go over 4.35GB.

You can use a BitRate calculator tool to configure your bitrate. I like this one:
http://www.videohelp.com/calc.htm
(you will need Java installed)
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: SmilinJackRoss on October 19, 2006, 08:42:38 AM
Quote
Using Handbrake, you can only rip the movie alone, you don't get menus or anything else.  But you can choose the file size you want to rip at.  Up to this point, I have always chosen an average bitrate of 1000 kbps, and I haven't had a problem.

Sounds like Handbrake isn't actually ripping the movie; its actually re-encoding the movie.
So yes, you will have to set the bitrate correctly so it doesnt go over 4.35GB.

You can use a BitRate calculator tool to configure your bitrate. I like this one:
http://www.videohelp.com/calc.htm
(you will need Java installed)

I tried that link, and it's telling me to encode at ~4000 kbps....that doesn't seem right.  If the file was too big when I did it at 1000 kbps, then 4000 would be even bigger, right?
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: gammer on October 19, 2006, 10:29:55 AM
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I tried that link, and it's telling me to encode at ~4000 kbps....that doesn't seem right.  If the file was too big when I did it at 1000 kbps, then 4000 would be even bigger, right?

I've never used handbrake, so I don't know if its doing somthing different? But the calc will work if encoding with TMPGEnc or VirtualDub and most other encoders. And I did just check it now with the Matrix runtime of 2 hours 16 min, and I set my audio to 192 kbps and it gave me a calculated bitrate of 4288kbps...and that would be correct.

Are you sure you are stating things correctly and not getting mbps mixed up with kbps? 'cause in your previous post you mentioned you normaly set it at 1000kbps but had to change it to 900mbps.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: Dr Z on October 19, 2006, 02:43:25 PM
Easy way to do it...

Rip said movie with DVD Xcopy or similiar program.

Stop short of actually writing the DVD copy and navigate to where the ".VOB" files are located (the temp folder where the program you use rips the original dvd to)

Then import the ".vob" files into the timeline of your favorite editing program (my suggestion use Sony Vegas). You might have to rename the .vob files with the suffix of .mpg inorder for your editing program to recognize the files and display them properly. The movie will also likely be chopped up into multiple .vob files so you might have to import them into your timeline one after the other to layout the complete movie.

Then simply import the riff trax into your time line and line up the audio/video cues.

Then render out an mpeg2 file.

Then import into the DVD building program of choice and render out.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: gammer on October 20, 2006, 05:01:36 AM
Easy way to do it...

Rip said movie with DVD Xcopy or similiar program.

Stop short of actually writing the DVD copy and navigate to where the ".VOB" files are located (the temp folder where the program you use rips the original dvd to)

Then import the ".vob" files into the timeline of your favorite editing program (my suggestion use Sony Vegas). You might have to rename the .vob files with the suffix of .mpg inorder for your editing program to recognize the files and display them properly. The movie will also likely be chopped up into multiple .vob files so you might have to import them into your timeline one after the other to layout the complete movie.

Then simply import the riff trax into your time line and line up the audio/video cues.

Then render out an mpeg2 file.

Then import into the DVD building program of choice and render out.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong here (mrtorso maybe?), but I think this method was tried already and because of the multiple VOB's, the rifftrax would drift evertime the dvd player played a new VOB.

Thats why we switched ripping one solid M2V file and one solid AC3 file.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: JoshWay on October 20, 2006, 05:46:55 AM
I use Vegas, but only to mix the sound. I never bring the VOB onto the timeline.

I use smartripper to extract the movie as a single VOB, which I leave alone until the authoring stage. I also rip the soundtrack to an ac3 file, which I convert to WAV with the free AC3Tool. I mix the audio in Vegas, export a new ac3 file, then I use the original untouched VOB and my new ac3 file to author a new DVD (in DVD Architect). If it's too large, I burn to a DL disc or shrink with DVDShrink. If I have room, I include the original soundtrack and even other commentaries.

The only one I had trouble with was Cocktail. The ripped VOB was only recognized as being 30 minutes long, even though it was the full 4 gigs. I couldn't get Vegas or DVD Architect to acknowlegde the whole thing. I ended up having to capture the whole movie. Not fun.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: SmilinJackRoss on October 20, 2006, 08:17:14 AM
Are you sure you are stating things correctly and not getting mbps mixed up with kbps? 'cause in your previous post you mentioned you normaly set it at 1000kbps but had to change it to 900mbps.

It's very possible that I'm mixing up my units here, but I think I'm going to bypass all this by just getting a dual layer DVDR and burn my longer projects to that.  I know that my iMac will burn a dual layer, and I'm willing to pay a few extra bucks to avoid any further headache.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: MrTorso on October 20, 2006, 09:03:37 AM

Someone correct me if I'm wrong here (mrtorso maybe?), but I think this method was tried already and because of the multiple VOB's, the rifftrax would drift evertime the dvd player played a new VOB.

Thats why we switched ripping one solid M2V file and one solid AC3 file.

I had nothing but problems trying to edit VOBs. You can rename them to mpgs and they will work in most cases but they are not true mpeg2. VOBS store more info in them. When I tried using multiple vobs I would get key frame errors and drop outs at the start and end of the VOBs. Ripping them to 1 solid mpg or demuxed m2v files is a better solution. Once I did that I have no real problems. I also suggest defragging the hard drive you are going to save the file to. Sometimes you wind up with 5gb or more file sizes. If your HDD is fragmented then you will have problems with playback and what not.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: gammer on October 20, 2006, 10:36:31 AM
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I also suggest defragging the hard drive you are going to save the file to. Sometimes you wind up with 5gb or more file sizes. If your HDD is fragmented then you will have problems with playback and what not.

Good point. Also, if you have the luxury of having 2 hard drives, then I recommend anytime you are muxing, demuxing, mixing audio or whatever...always do it from one drive to the other. Never do it all on the same drive; it takes longer and your hard drive has to work much harder.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: IronPigeon on October 20, 2006, 12:12:33 PM
For some reason all I get is noise when I open up the dvd audio file with goldwave.  That's if it even recognizes the ac3 file at all.  What am I doing wrong?
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: Shinigami on October 20, 2006, 01:25:38 PM
For the Mac people having problems, consider authoring the DVD to any size you want, getting access to a friend's PC, transfering the Video_TS folder over, then DVDShrinking it.  It's a hassle yes, but DVD Shrink is just TOO spiffy.  It defies all measures of spiffiness.  It's spifftastic.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: Qrusher14242 on October 20, 2006, 06:25:04 PM
DVD2one is a great program for shrinking too. I can shrink a 7 gig down to 4gig with menus and still have it look good.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: SecretAgentSuperDragon on October 20, 2006, 08:13:47 PM
For some reason all I get is noise when I open up the dvd audio file with goldwave.  That's if it even recognizes the ac3 file at all.  What am I doing wrong?

If you try to play it in AC3 mode in Goldwave, it won't go. You only use goldwave to save the ac3 file as a wav file. Then you open it up in audacity to edit. Just try reading the guide a little closer.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: EVOLUTION117 on October 21, 2006, 03:27:03 PM
Hey all, kind of long term MST3K fan (it's amazing what you'll stumble upon at one o'clock in the morning on a Sunday) and now of course a Rifftrax fan.

So, I'm just gonna dive right in here and ask for help with this guide, specifically the 'Audacity' section.

Basically, I can't do anything. I've extracted the DVD video and audio using DVD Decrypter, I've fixed the DVD audio using delaycut, I've converted the DVD audio and the Rifftrax to Wav and I've placed them both in Audacity.

But it won't do anything. I can play the files, and I can highlight them, but once I've highlighted a section, i.e. the Rifftrax intro in order for it to be cut, it won't let me cut the audio. It won't let me do anything that it should once the selection has been highlighted.

So, what am I doing wrong?
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: SecretAgentSuperDragon on October 22, 2006, 09:52:50 PM
Hey all, kind of long term MST3K fan (it's amazing what you'll stumble upon at one o'clock in the morning on a Sunday) and now of course a Rifftrax fan.

So, I'm just gonna dive right in here and ask for help with this guide, specifically the 'Audacity' section.

Basically, I can't do anything. I've extracted the DVD video and audio using DVD Decrypter, I've fixed the DVD audio using delaycut, I've converted the DVD audio and the Rifftrax to Wav and I've placed them both in Audacity.

But it won't do anything. I can play the files, and I can highlight them, but once I've highlighted a section, i.e. the Rifftrax intro in order for it to be cut, it won't let me cut the audio. It won't let me do anything that it should once the selection has been highlighted.

So, what am I doing wrong?

Hey, welcome to the board, now let me see if I can fix your problem.
So you went ahead and ripped the dvd in ifo mode with no filesplitting and both the video and audio were in demux mode. You said you converted them both to wav using goldwave or whatever other software you might of used. (I've tried to use Belight, but it messed around with audacity, so I just stick with Goldwave for converting). Now their both converted to wav. You open up audacity and you drag the movie audio in, then you drag the rifftrax in below the movie audio so that the audio is on top, and the rifftrax is on bottom.

But you say when you try to highlight it, it won't cut or do anything. Hmmm. ???

That's happened to me a couple times actually, and I found out what it was. If you try to play the audio tracks together and then you pause it, it won't let you do anything to the track. You have to actually stop it instead of pausing it. You'll know the difference, because when its paused, the play button and pause button are pushed in(indented) but when it is just stopped, none of the buttons are indented and you should be able to mess around with the rifftrax syncing then.

Go ahead and try that and let me know what happens. That's the only thing I can think of, so good luck. It should work.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: Largento on October 23, 2006, 07:18:10 AM
Hi! Tarantulas suggested this post should be transplanted here.

This is a step-by-step guide to how I've been preparing my RiffTrax movies on a Mac. The really novel part here is that I've used GarageBand's "Ducking" feature to easily automate mixing the audio. Ducking lowers the background audio whenever someone on the lead track speaks. It's perfect for this sort of thing and works great!

Anyway, here's a paste of the other post:



Okay, I just fooled around with some stuff in GarageBand and I think I've found a good way to make use of Apple's GarageBand to do this.

Obviously, on a Mac...

1) I ripped my movie onto my computer using Handbrake. This gave me an mp4 movie file.

2) I then opened up the RiffTrax mp3 in Quicktime Pro and trimmed away the intro audio. (This could be done in another app, maybe even in GarageBand. I'm not sure. I use it again at the end, so I'd say it's required. At least to do this the way I did it.)

3) I opened GarageBand and created a new project as a Soundtrack for a Movie. Because GarageBand limits the time to 1999 measures, I set the BPM down to 60, which gave me plenty of room. I then dragged the mp4 movie to the Video Track and let GarageBand convert it. This takes a few minutes and there's some slowdown while it creates little thumbnails along the timeline. These thumbnails are helpful, though, so it's worth it.

4) With the mp4 imported, I have a Video Track and a Video Sound Track. I pressed the play button and waited for the movie to get to where the RiffTrax would start. (In this case, I was using the X-Men RiffTrax and it was going to start after Patrick Stewart's opening narration.) I pressed the play button again to stop the playhead at about where I needed the new audio track to start.

5) Now I dragged the audio file I trimmed in Quicktime Pro into GarageBand placing it as close to the playhead as I could. (I de-selected Snap to Grid in the Control menu.)

6) Once the new audio track was loaded, I used the right arrow button to scroll to the scene in Rogue's house, where the first audio sync occurs ("Otherwise it wouldn't be an adventure.") I clicked on the measure count at the top to set the playhead and played the audio. It wasn't perfectly synced, but it was close. So I spent awhile dragging the RiffTrax clip back and forth and then backing up the playhead and playing the line again and again until I got them to sync right.

7) Okay, now here's where the great thing comes in... Ducking!

Go under the Control menu and select "Ducking" and a set of up and down arrows will appear to the right of the controls on the audio tracks. Go to the up arrow on your RiffTrax track and click it. It'll turn yellow and the down arrow on the Video Sound track will turn blue.

If you don't have the project info pane open, click the "i" button to open it. and then click the triangle next to "Details." Make sure the track info is set to "Master Track." and look down in the Details section for a slider next to the words "Ducking Amount." I set mine to 50. You can experiment with this if you like.

What Ducking does is automatically lower the volume of the backing track when the lead track speaks! So by setting those arrows to make the RiffTrax track the lead track and then setting the Ducking Amount to 50, whenever Mike or Bill makes a noise, the backing track (the Video Sound track) automatically lowers its volume by half!

Cool With this done, I went under the share menu and selected "Send Movie to iDVD."

9) Once it finished converting and opened iDVD, I saved the GarageBand project and then closed iDVD. I then went to my "Music" folder and opened the GarageBand folder and selected the project I made. I control-clicked it and selected "Show Package Contents." This let me get to the files it had created. In the "Output" folder, there was a folder called "iDVD" and in that folder was a file called "Output.aif." I option-dragged it to my desktop to make a copy of it. (As you would expect, it's a big file! over 1GB.)

10) I then went to Quicktime Pro again and opened the mp4 movie I'd made with Handbrake. I went under the Window menu and selected "Show Movie Properties." I selected the Video Track and clicked the Extract button. This made a new Untitled movie with just the video.

11) Then I opened up the Output.aif file with Quicktime Pro and did Select All and Copy.

12) With the Untitled movie selected, I made sure the playhead was at the very beginning of the movie and selected "Add to Movie" from the Edit menu.

13) I then saved the new movie as a self-contained movie.

And it worked great! From there, I could've put it into iDVD, but I was going to watch it on my computer, so I put it in my Movies folder and fired up Front Row.

The sync held all the way through and the Ducking worked really great!

So, I thought I would share...
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: EVOLUTION117 on October 24, 2006, 07:55:31 AM
Stopping the track instead of pausing it?

OF COURSE! GENIUS!

If you're playing the track in Audacity and then Pause it, Audacity's still going to think that your still going to be playing the file and thus won't allow you to edit it.

It'd be like an Editor trying to cut a scene from a film whilst the reel's still in the camera and rolling.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: SecretAgentSuperDragon on October 24, 2006, 12:57:00 PM
Cool. Glad it worked for ya. :)
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: xjason on October 24, 2006, 09:37:15 PM
I just followed the guide from SecretAgentSuperDragon on StarTrekV and it worked great.  Once I figured out how to stop DVD Decrypter from splitting the M2V into 1 gig files I just followed it step by step and it worked perfectly.

Yes there are some times when the movie audio drowns out the riffs but I can easily live with that. 

Much love to the SuperDragon!
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: James of LinHood on October 25, 2006, 10:45:37 AM
First of all, thank you SuperAgentSuperDragon for your excellent guide.  I used your guide for Point Break but I've run into an annoying problem.

The DVD works fine except that every time there's a gunshot, explosion, or other loud sound effect I can hear crackling.  It's not so bad that I can't watch the film but it'd be great if I could fix that.  Does anyone know of a solution to this problem?
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: kodiakthejuggler on October 25, 2006, 10:48:32 AM
First of all, thank you SuperAgentSuperDragon for your excellent guide.  I used your guide for Point Break but I've run into an annoying problem.

The DVD works fine except that every time there's a gunshot, explosion, or other loud sound effect I can hear crackling.  It's not so bad that I can't watch the film but it'd be great if I could fix that.  Does anyone know of a solution to this problem?

Sounds like your audio is clipping, or distorting, caused by levels that are too high. Perhaps there is a feature in the editing software that allows you to tame any distortion, or smooth out the audio to avoid clipping.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: SecretAgentSuperDragon on October 25, 2006, 02:18:22 PM
First of all, thank you SuperAgentSuperDragon for your excellent guide.  I used your guide for Point Break but I've run into an annoying problem.

The DVD works fine except that every time there's a gunshot, explosion, or other loud sound effect I can hear crackling.  It's not so bad that I can't watch the film but it'd be great if I could fix that.  Does anyone know of a solution to this problem?

I Just did Point Break myself, but didn't run into any problem with audacity. Which audio were you using? The  DTS, the 6 channel, or the 2 channel.

I personally use the 2 channel on every dvd I do just to make it easier, and to be honest, I can't tell a difference in sound quality. Here's a helpful hint when doing Point Break over again: Highlight the commentary and amplify by about 20% or so, that way you will be able to hear Mike riff over the "Pure Adrenaline" scenes.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: James of LinHood on October 26, 2006, 02:51:21 AM
I Just did Point Break myself, but didn't run into any problem with audacity. Which audio were you using? The  DTS, the 6 channel, or the 2 channel.

I personally use the 2 channel on every dvd I do just to make it easier, and to be honest, I can't tell a difference in sound quality. Here's a helpful hint when doing Point Break over again: Highlight the commentary and amplify by about 20% or so, that way you will be able to hear Mike riff over the "Pure Adrenaline" scenes.

I also used 2 channel.  I guess I won't worry about it unless it happens again when I redo Point Break.  Thanks for the tip about adjusting the commentary audio.  I'll be sure to do that.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: SecretAgentSuperDragon on October 26, 2006, 08:30:35 AM
Another quick question: Did you convert both files to Wav format? I haven't tried mixing the mp3 rifftrax and the Movie wav audio file together, but I don't know if it will cause problems or not. To be safe, just convert the rifftrax mp3 to a wav file. That's the way I do it, and it works everytime.

PS: I found out that it doesn't really matter if you use the six channel or two channel. Actually, with The Matrix, you have to use the six channel because all of the two channels are commentary tracks.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: EVOLUTION117 on October 26, 2006, 10:00:23 AM
Ok, this is considerably weird.

The Matrix:

-Decrypt using DVD Decrypter? Check

-Audio Delay? 0ms.

-Audio Length? 02:10:34
-Video Length? 01:25:24

Help please.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: James of LinHood on October 26, 2006, 10:52:06 AM
Another quick question: Did you convert both files to Wav format? I haven't tried mixing the mp3 rifftrax and the Movie wav audio file together, but I don't know if it will cause problems or not. To be safe, just convert the rifftrax mp3 to a wav file. That's the way I do it, and it works everytime.

No, I never converted the Rifftrax mp3 to WAV.  I know that's not the problem though because I just found out exactly where this problem is occuring.  It's happening after I convert the DVD's ac3 file to wav.  So, it has to be my ac3 to wav converter program that's the problem.

I'll just download another converter program tonight and see if that works.  Hopefully, it will.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: SecretAgentSuperDragon on October 26, 2006, 05:10:54 PM
Ok, this is considerably weird.

The Matrix:

-Decrypt using DVD Decrypter? Check

-Audio Delay? 0ms.

-Audio Length? 02:10:34
-Video Length? 01:25:24

Help please.

Is file splitting checked under the tools options in dvd decryptor?

I just did The Matrix last night following my guide to a tee and I didn't have any problems. Most problems do occur when you forget to do some thing in the guide (i.e. disabling filesplitting, putting it in IFO mode, setting the video and audio options to demux, etc...) Just try it again and it should be alright.

Your problem sounds vaguely familiar to mine. When I finished The Matrix and Point Break, they both showed shorter film times than the actual movie. But the entire movie played anyway, even when the time said it still had 15 minutes to go when the credits rolled. It was almost like the time on the dvd slowed. There was no technical problem, the video worked great. It was just a little irritating with chapters, but oh well. With Point Break(2:03:00) it ended
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: EVOLUTION117 on October 26, 2006, 05:33:44 PM
Yes, it seems to be the same thing here. Time is off, but the actual video length is a-ok.

Now it seems there's a problem with the Rifftrax itself. It seems as if it goes completely out of synch around about the time when Cypher is basically killing everyone. I'd been through the track, synching up all of Disembaudio's lines to the lines in the movie and then silencing them, with each line only being a second or two off but once I got to the point where the synch line is 'I choose the Matrix' the gap between the rifftrax and the movie was ridiculous.

Of course, this may be something to do with it being the PAL version Rifftrax. Still, it's pretty annoying.  :(
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: SecretAgentSuperDragon on October 26, 2006, 07:25:46 PM
That may be the case. Either that or their is a delay. I know that with my original ac3 audio, there was a 101ms delay, but I just used delaycut to fix it. Maybe try that out and see if it works for you.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: SaucyRossy on October 26, 2006, 07:33:50 PM
Secret,
Is there a simple way to put the subtitles onto the reauthored dvd?
I kept the subtitle files after decrypting it but when I went to burn them with Shrink/decrypter I put them in the final folder but they didnt work. Any suggestions?
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: The_Flash on October 26, 2006, 07:51:04 PM
Checkout Step #3 and #4 in the guide below.  It is by far the easiest method to keep subs, and keeps you from having to save tons of bmps as is the case with SubRip.

http://www.doom9.org/index.html?/mpg/ifoedit-dvdauthor.htm



If for some reason your subs are not in sync, try processing with PgcDemux instead.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: Hank on October 26, 2006, 08:34:42 PM
Ok, this is considerably weird.

The Matrix:

-Decrypt using DVD Decrypter? Check

-Audio Delay? 0ms.

-Audio Length? 02:10:34
-Video Length? 01:25:24

Help please.

There must be a glitch in The Matrix.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: The_Flash on October 26, 2006, 09:54:25 PM
Ok, this is considerably weird.

The Matrix:

-Decrypt using DVD Decrypter? Check

-Audio Delay? 0ms.

-Audio Length? 02:10:34
-Video Length? 01:25:24

Help please.

Once again, I would rip the files to your HDD and then process with PgcDemux.  If it's really causing problems and the former doesn't work, you can reset the timestamps with a freeware program called Restream.

PgcDemux:  http://jsoto.posunplugged.com/dvdtools.htm

ReStream:   http://www.digital-digest.com/dvd/downloads/showsoftware_restream_246.html
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: SecretAgentSuperDragon on October 27, 2006, 08:28:00 AM
Secret,
Is there a simple way to put the subtitles onto the reauthored dvd?
I kept the subtitle files after decrypting it but when I went to burn them with Shrink/decrypter I put them in the final folder but they didnt work. Any suggestions?

I tried demuxing the subtitle from dvd decryptor, and after editing all the audio, when I went to IFO-edit, there was an option to put subtitles into the DVD. I tried to put the subtitles I ripped in there, but they were in a .sub format and the ifo-edit only allowed subp. So I just ignored it. But my suggestion to you is to rename the file as a .subp file. I haven't tried it out personally, but in theory that should work. If it doesn't do it by rightclick - rename, then just open it up in notepad, click save as, make sure the option is set to all files instead of .sub, and just save it as something like moviecc.subp. Let me know how it goes. I know that I am gonna try it when Episode I comes out.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: cropsy13 on October 27, 2006, 05:31:32 PM
I'm new to Rifftrax and DVD editing so be gentle, anyway i am currently using Cocktail and i followed the step 1 but when it's finished decrypting the movie is only 50 mins long.

I selected Demux at the bottom of DVD decrypter (http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y45/cropsy13/dvd.jpg)

like i said i am a complete newbie at this 
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: The_Flash on October 27, 2006, 05:43:52 PM
I'm new to Rifftrax and DVD editing so be gentle, anyway i am currently using Cocktail and i followed the step 1 but when it's finished decrypting the movie is only 50 mins long.

I selected Demux at the bottom of DVD decrypter...

like i said i am a complete newbie at this 

Try ripping in file mode.  Then obtain your video, audio, and subtitle streams with PgcDemux as mentioned above.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: James of LinHood on October 28, 2006, 03:16:27 PM
Downloading a new AC3 to WAV converter did fix that crackling problem!  Everything worked fine this time and my DVD turned out great.  Just in case anyone else has the same problem, try using AC3Tool to convert your AC3 files to WAV.  Hopefully, that will fix the problem.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: cropsy13 on October 29, 2006, 07:42:49 PM
Hi it's me Again

I turned Cocktail into a rifftrax DVD But when it get to Jamaica it goes out of sync

I followed the guide perfectly, i'm not sure if it's my comp or not.

Thanks
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: SecretAgentSuperDragon on October 29, 2006, 10:56:08 PM
Hi it's me Again

I turned Cocktail into a rifftrax DVD But when it get to Jamaica it goes out of sync

I followed the guide perfectly, i'm not sure if it's my comp or not.

Thanks

What kind of computer do you have? Also, if you seem to be having problems with DVD Decrypter, try uninstalling it and finding another copy on the internet. You never know. But that is a puzzler. I have no experience with Cocktail myself, unfortunately, but maybe if someone else on this board has done Cocktail with this guide, maybe you could help Cropsy out.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: BathTub on October 29, 2006, 11:55:12 PM
Yeah no problems with Cocktail here.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: Dr. Jan Itor on October 31, 2006, 09:33:05 AM
For those of you who convert your DVDs to AVIs, there is a cool program that makes short work of it.

Auto Gordian Knot is pretty much a one stop shop and automated the entire process.

http://www.autogk.me.uk/ (http://www.autogk.me.uk/)

The only thing not included is a program to "rip" the DVD.  But how you do that is between you, Hollywood, and the DMCA ;)



Seconding the love for AutoGK. A useful side-effect of the way it works is that it dumps the audio, as an MP3, for the video into a folder named agk_tmp in the output folder (it also dumps the original AC3 audio for the purists). This MP3 file already syncs perfectly with the outputted AVI. So, if, like me, you want the original and the riffed version available to watch on your PC, you can do the following:

 - Rip the DVD to your HD (*ahem*, obviously only where your local laws allow this).
 - Use AutoGK to create an AVI - I usually go for the 2 CDs option to retain some quality. One hint here - go into "Advanced" and choose "CBR MP3", and set it to 128kbps or so, as the variable bitrate can confuse Audacity and Virtualdub later on.
 - Go away and do something worthwhile with your time while AutoGK does it's stuff - I personally like to continue building my altar to Cthulu out of discarded chicken bones.
 - Come back and you'll have one perfectly-ripped movie.
 - Now start up Audacity and load the MP3 file from the agk_tmp folder and the Riff MP3 amd sync them up as in the guide above - I use Audacity's normalise function on the movie soundtrack and punch the volume up on the Riff by about 3db to help Mike's pearls of wisdom come through more clearly. A quick glimpse at the waveforms will let you see particularly noisy bits of soundtrack, and you can drop them a couple of dbs if it helps.
 - Export the whole lot as a WAV
 - Now start up VirtualDub (http://www.virtualdub.org/), and load up your AVI. Click Video to "Direct Stream Copy", and then click Audio and "Full Processing Mode", then Audio>WAV. Load up your newly-synced up WAV. Then Click Audio>Compression, and choose MPEG-Layer 3, and 48kbps stero (or higher if you want). Finally, click File>Save AVI, give it an appropriate file name, and leave it to do it's stuff for a few minutes, and you'll have a nicely-synced-up AVI with the riffing, and another without (as if you'd want these films hanging around, I'm sure we've all gone out and bought them because there's no way we'd have Top Gun or Point Break already in our collection, no way, not at all, nosiree...)
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: SunWuKong on October 31, 2006, 03:25:37 PM
Ok, I'm a total noob at this.   I DL DVDShrink 3.2 and it's says I need "Nero" in order to burn the movie onto a DVD.  Am I doing something wrong?

NM, problem solved itself.  :-[
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: stirrell on November 01, 2006, 07:10:12 AM
I just followed SuperDragon's great tutorial on creating a DVD (X-Men). It worked great, played wonderfully in my DVD player. But, strangely, trying to play this DVD on my laptop, it stops and stutters. Has anyone else experienced this and know what causes it? I made a copy of the DVD on my hard drive to see if there was a problem with the DVD but it has the same playback issues. Not a big deal as it plays fine in my home DVD player but I was just curious about it.

Thanks for a great tutorial, SuperDragon.

I have also tried to use Premiere Elements to create a RiffTrax DVD. It previews fine but after burning the audio is out of sync by a second or so. The Rifftrax matches the movie audio but the entire audio track does not match the video.

I also have used Creator 8 and it creates DVDs that work fine on my laptop and one DVD player in my house but always gets "stuck" at a certain point in my main DVD player. I am getting Creator 9 soon and will see if that solves the problem. I also heard the encoding quality is improved over 8 (which did kinda stink, IMHO) and Videowave can now read in VOB files which should save some steps.

So far, though, I have found SuperDragon's method to be the best way (and the tools were free!). The quality of the result was great on a single layer DVD.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: SecretAgentSuperDragon on November 01, 2006, 07:59:20 AM
Yeah Stirell, I know what you are talking about. I think what happens is when you shrink the movie with dvd shrink, in compresses everything down, even the time. So while a movie maybe 2 hours long, on a dvd player, it will show up as 1:30:00 or something like that. It does work fine though in regular DVD players, and even my XBOX. I have tried to play it on the computer, and I find that WMP, Real, and PowerDVD do that stutter thing. I fortunately have InterVideo WinDVD and it does not have this problem when I play it with that. The only thing is it takes a little while to rewind if I wanna hear a funny joke again.

But I would say if it isn't that big of a problem, just stick with the tv dvd players. They seem to work just fine.

SuperDragon out.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: Tarantulas on November 02, 2006, 02:24:10 PM
For you custom AVI folks out there, I just stumbled on a program the other day called Fair Use.  Has anyone else here used it?  I gave it a shot with EP1 and it make a pretty nice AVI, and even included the force subtitles for the alien languages.

http://www.fairusewizard.com/lang_en/fairuse_wizard_dvd_divx_xvid_backup_tool_light_edition.html

I hear they have a "full" version, but I've yet to check it out...
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: DarkFlounder on November 03, 2006, 06:54:32 AM
Ok, this is considerably weird.

The Matrix:

-Decrypt using DVD Decrypter? Check

-Audio Delay? 0ms.

-Audio Length? 02:10:34
-Video Length? 01:25:24

Help please.

Is file splitting checked under the tools options in dvd decryptor?

I just did The Matrix last night following my guide to a tee and I didn't have any problems. Most problems do occur when you forget to do some thing in the guide (i.e. disabling filesplitting, putting it in IFO mode, setting the video and audio options to demux, etc...) Just try it again and it should be alright.

Your problem sounds vaguely familiar to mine. When I finished The Matrix and Point Break, they both showed shorter film times than the actual movie. But the entire movie played anyway, even when the time said it still had 15 minutes to go when the credits rolled. It was almost like the time on the dvd slowed. There was no technical problem, the video worked great. It was just a little irritating with chapters, but oh well. With Point Break(2:03:00) it ended

I'm having the same issue with The Matrix.  When I recombine the audio tracks with the video, it comes out fine and the audio never loses sync.  However, I'm also trying to integrate subtitles.  Since the subtitles are keyed to the timecode of the original video, they lose sync immediately.

Anybody got a solution to this?  I know The Matrix is one of the most difficult movies to rip properly (I remember in the early days of DVD ripping, The Matrix would actually crash rippers).
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: James of LinHood on November 03, 2006, 07:05:21 AM
Anybody got a solution to this?  I know The Matrix is one of the most difficult movies to rip properly (I remember in the early days of DVD ripping, The Matrix would actually crash rippers).

There are two different editions of the theatrical cut of The Matrix on DVD.  One is the original single disc edtion and the other is the remastered edition with commentaries that came in the 10 disc Matrix box set.  I'm assuming you're using the single disc edition?  If so, maybe the disc in the 10 disc set would be easier to rip.  I'm not saying you should go out and buy it.  Check with your friends and see if they have it.  Also, Netflix might have that version available to rent.

I do have both of those versions of The Matrix but I have not gotten around to burning a synced up Rifftrax copy yet.  I'm still busy trying to balance the audio for my Top Gun DVD.  Still, I'll try to get to The Matrix this weekend and I'll tell you how it goes.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: SecretAgentSuperDragon on November 03, 2006, 10:05:48 AM
Ok, this is considerably weird.

The Matrix:

-Decrypt using DVD Decrypter? Check

-Audio Delay? 0ms.

-Audio Length? 02:10:34
-Video Length? 01:25:24

Help please.

Is file splitting checked under the tools options in dvd decryptor?

I just did The Matrix last night following my guide to a tee and I didn't have any problems. Most problems do occur when you forget to do some thing in the guide (i.e. disabling filesplitting, putting it in IFO mode, setting the video and audio options to demux, etc...) Just try it again and it should be alright.

Your problem sounds vaguely familiar to mine. When I finished The Matrix and Point Break, they both showed shorter film times than the actual movie. But the entire movie played anyway, even when the time said it still had 15 minutes to go when the credits rolled. It was almost like the time on the dvd slowed. There was no technical problem, the video worked great. It was just a little irritating with chapters, but oh well. With Point Break(2:03:00) it ended

I'm having the same issue with The Matrix.  When I recombine the audio tracks with the video, it comes out fine and the audio never loses sync.  However, I'm also trying to integrate subtitles.  Since the subtitles are keyed to the timecode of the original video, they lose sync immediately.

Anybody got a solution to this?  I know The Matrix is one of the most difficult movies to rip properly (I remember in the early days of DVD ripping, The Matrix would actually crash rippers).

Yeah, I know what you mean. Some of them just work different for others. For instance, Star Trek V and X-Men both worked fine, the correct movie times showed up and everything. Then I did Point Break and The Matrix, and it started having the timing problem(even though the movies still played fine). It could just be a problem per DVD, but I will definitely be troubleshooting it when I do Star Wars. I'll let you know what I find out, if anything.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: MrTorso on November 03, 2006, 11:26:14 AM
Anybody got a solution to this?  I know The Matrix is one of the most difficult movies to rip properly (I remember in the early days of DVD ripping, The Matrix would actually crash rippers).

If I remember correctly the first Matrix release utilized new specifications that weren't in the DVD specs at the time. I had a first gen player and I had tons of problems with it and had to upgrade my player.

Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: stirrell on November 04, 2006, 08:16:01 PM
I am also having the problem with "crackling audio" mentioned earlier in this thread. I didn't notice it with X-Men but after making a copy of Phantom Menace, it is very noticeable - when a ship flies by, for example, the audio noticeably crackles. Would normalizing the audio help, does anyone think? I think it probably happens from the audio being so much louder but that is just an incredibly uneducated guess :-).

I notice that Sound Editor in Roxio's Creator 9 actually reads in and saves out AC3 files so I am going to try to use that on my next project and see if I fair any better. The "ducking" feature in Garageband sounds cool.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: James of LinHood on November 06, 2006, 07:51:42 AM
I am also having the problem with "crackling audio" mentioned earlier in this thread.

Try converting your ac3 to wav with AC3Tool.  That fixed the problem for me.  You can download it here:

http://www.videohelp.com/tools?tool=AC3Tool (http://www.videohelp.com/tools?tool=AC3Tool)

If you have trouble using that program send me a message and I'll walk you through it.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: JonnyFrag on November 07, 2006, 03:40:49 PM
Anyone had any luck getting the Matrix to rip properly?
It is the sux0r to get to rip right.
And yes, using the original release, not the box set version, which would probably make this all go away.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: Qrusher14242 on November 08, 2006, 01:58:51 AM
hmm i got mine from netflix and it worked fine. I just used Dvd decrypter and demuxed the audio/video and it ripped fine. What ripper did you use?
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: BathTub on November 08, 2006, 04:24:09 AM
my copy ripped fine with DVDDecrypter
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: James of LinHood on November 08, 2006, 06:14:40 AM
I ripped the boxed set version of The Matrix with DVDdecryptor and it seemed to work great (meaning the audio is fine and I got no error messages when I ripped it).  I'm in the very slow process of mixing the volume just right so it'll probably be a little while before I know if I come out with a great copy or not.  Hopefully I'll have this done by Friday night.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: MrTorso on November 08, 2006, 12:29:13 PM
The only problems I had with the Matrix was the GOP time code was seriously screwed. There is a GOP fixer built into the video editor I use so I was able to fix that. When I dropped the original rip it gave a running time of 3 + hours. Once I fixed the GOP it was all good.

Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: King Rygar on November 10, 2006, 04:33:58 AM
Ok, I hunkered down and went through SuperDragons guide and BAM! I now have Phantom Menace Rifftrax DVD!!! Superb! I am in love all over again! Thank your sir!

BUT, I have one issue. The movie is widescreen 2:35.1. I have a 16:9 HDTV. The Riff DVD is slightly streched vertically compared to the original. This isn't a big issue on my 16:9 set, but I have a bad feeling when I take this over to my friends to watch this weekend, it will be even worse on his 4:3 set.

Any tips?

Thanks again for the guide Super!  ;D
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: BathTub on November 10, 2006, 05:22:56 AM
Did you get the huttese subtitles working?
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: Grillslinger on November 10, 2006, 08:00:03 AM
Thanks for these directions! They work great.
King Rygar,
I've noticed on some of the DVD's I've used, that they have two versions of the movie. One for widescreen tv's and one for normal tv's. If you use the one for a regular screen, It will play just fine on your friend's tv.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: King Rygar on November 10, 2006, 08:46:23 AM
King Rygar,
I've noticed on some of the DVD's I've used, that they have two versions of the movie. One for widescreen tv's and one for normal tv's. If you use the one for a regular screen, It will play just fine on your friend's tv.

The Phantom Menace DVD I have only has the Widescreen version  :'(
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: Hank on November 10, 2006, 08:53:44 AM
Did you get the huttese subtitles working?

For the record, only one line is referenced (riffed), said by Watto.


20
00:46:07,199 --> 00:46:10,635
Your friend
is a foolish one, methinks
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: k1 on November 11, 2006, 10:06:42 AM
I ripped The Matrix without any problem using Mac The Ripper.  I could play it fine in VLC, but when I converted it to Mpeg4, the audio partially went out of sync.  (Very strange)

Right when the cop slaps the cuffs on Trinity is when it went screwy.  Her movements were in sync, but the gun shots weren't heard until she was on the phone.  (Almost like the surround sound channels were delayed, but the regular left & right were ok)  I tried a bunch of different ripping programs, and finally got it using Hand Brake.

Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: SpinyNorman on November 12, 2006, 11:38:16 AM
Hi all  from another newbie.

Firstly, many thanks to SASDs guide - even a computer idiot like me can follow it and produce a usable version of STV. However I cannot transfer Halloween due to DVD stuttering - it only plays in 2-3 second bursts. Tried both +R and -R and burning at a slower speed. Nothing. I'm out of ideas. Any thoughts?   
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: SecretAgentSuperDragon on November 12, 2006, 05:50:13 PM
I am not a fan of scary movies, so I have no experience with Halloween. But what I have been seeing is that each dvd can produce different results. If anybody here has done Halloween successfully, hopefully you can help out SpinyNorman.

My question to you Spiny is what have you been playing the DVD on(i.e. computer, DVD player, xbox, etc...)

Also, how does your original copy of Halloween look like? Is it pretty scratched up? That might be a source of the problem as well.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: James of LinHood on November 13, 2006, 02:57:14 PM
I've made a copy of Halloween and it worked great.  I used the 25th anniversary edition DVD.  Is that what you're using?  If so, did you follow SuperDragon's guide exactly?  If your answer is yes to both of those questions it should work out fine.

As SuperDragon said, it could be that your disc is scratched.  Have you ever burned any other Rifftax DVDs that have turned out okay?  If this is your very first one, there's a small chance it could be a problem with your computer.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: SpinyNorman on November 14, 2006, 01:13:46 PM
I've made a copy of Halloween and it worked great.  I used the 25th anniversary edition DVD.  Is that what you're using?  If so, did you follow SuperDragon's guide exactly?  If your answer is yes to both of those questions it should work out fine.

As SuperDragon said, it could be that your disc is scratched.  Have you ever burned any other Rifftax DVDs that have turned out okay?  If this is your very first one, there's a small chance it could be a problem with your computer.

I'm not using the 25th anniversary edition, but an older one I picked up cheap recently. I guess it may be the DVD as I have burned STV and Fifth Element OK. Just tried and failed again...strange, DVD shrink shows the file length as 1hr 51 whereas the film is nearer 1.30 (?). Other than that, it all seems to go OK.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: James of LinHood on November 14, 2006, 02:58:34 PM
I'm not using the 25th anniversary edition, but an older one I picked up cheap recently. I guess it may be the DVD as I have burned STV and Fifth Element OK. Just tried and failed again...strange, DVD shrink shows the file length as 1hr 51 whereas the film is nearer 1.30 (?). Other than that, it all seems to go OK.

It's probably that version of the DVD that's screwing it up.  Has anybody else here successfully made a copy of Halloween using a version other than the 25th Anniversary Edition?
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: Hank on November 15, 2006, 10:38:46 AM
I had an audio sync issue that I couldn't fix, but only when I demuxed the movie and imported it as an m2v file. When I used TMPGENG DVD Author and imported directly from the VIDEO_TS folder, the problem was solved. Plus, TDA converts the wav to ac3.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: DoctorZ on November 16, 2006, 09:22:30 AM
I guess I'll throw in my method.

I use only 2 programs to make my Rifftrax DVD's, Nero 6 and DVD Decrypter.

First I pay for the DVD and the Rifftrax (I sell the DVD later)
I unzip the Rifftrax to the folder where I keep them.
I decrypt the movie to my hard drive into its own folder.

Next I start Nero 6 and use the program that converts DVD's to mpeg4.  Nero does an excellent job of identifying the main movie title, which is all you really want, filtering out menus, special features, other audio tracks. The program also reprograms the mpeg4 file to fit on a regular sized DVD.  This takes about as long as the movie plays.  I have never had a problem with the audio getting out of sync with the video using this program

Next I go to the "make movie" feature in Nero 6.  I import the unzipped Rifftrax and drop it down into the audio container.  I then play the rifftrax and pause the audio when Mike tells me to.  I then make a segment cut and delete the rifftrax intro. (Don't worry, the original rifftrax remains intact)

I then bring in the mpeg4 movie file and drop it into its container.  Using the grab feature I can adjust the audio rifftrax to sync up perfectly by shifting the audio track back and forth in its container if it is out of sync.  I adjust the movie volume to be just below the Rifftrax volume.  Nero does a good job of equalizing the volume so there are no loud or soft variations after you get the volumes to where you want them.

I then use Nero 6 to add chapters automatically, create a menu screen and then burn the DVD. 

It takes a little over 4 hours to do all this if its a 2 hour movie. I am very pleased with the results
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: Dr Z on November 19, 2006, 12:32:41 PM
I guess I'll throw in my method.

I use only 2 programs to make my Rifftrax DVD's, Nero 6 and DVD Decrypter.

First I pay for the DVD and the Rifftrax (I sell the DVD later)
I unzip the Rifftrax to the folder where I keep them.
I decrypt the movie to my hard drive into its own folder.

Next I start Nero 6 and use the program that converts DVD's to mpeg4.  Nero does an excellent job of identifying the main movie title, which is all you really want, filtering out menus, special features, other audio tracks. The program also reprograms the mpeg4 file to fit on a regular sized DVD.  This takes about as long as the movie plays.  I have never had a problem with the audio getting out of sync with the video using this program

Next I go to the "make movie" feature in Nero 6.  I import the unzipped Rifftrax and drop it down into the audio container.  I then play the rifftrax and pause the audio when Mike tells me to.  I then make a segment cut and delete the rifftrax intro. (Don't worry, the original rifftrax remains intact)

I then bring in the mpeg4 movie file and drop it into its container.  Using the grab feature I can adjust the audio rifftrax to sync up perfectly by shifting the audio track back and forth in its container if it is out of sync.  I adjust the movie volume to be just below the Rifftrax volume.  Nero does a good job of equalizing the volume so there are no loud or soft variations after you get the volumes to where you want them.

I then use Nero 6 to add chapters automatically, create a menu screen and then burn the DVD. 

It takes a little over 4 hours to do all this if its a 2 hour movie. I am very pleased with the results

Kudos for a job well done! I followed the directions above and it worked like a charm!
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: SecretAgentSuperDragon on November 19, 2006, 12:57:52 PM
I guess I'll throw in my method.

I use only 2 programs to make my Rifftrax DVD's, Nero 6 and DVD Decrypter.

First I pay for the DVD and the Rifftrax (I sell the DVD later)
I unzip the Rifftrax to the folder where I keep them.
I decrypt the movie to my hard drive into its own folder.

Next I start Nero 6 and use the program that converts DVD's to mpeg4.  Nero does an excellent job of identifying the main movie title, which is all you really want, filtering out menus, special features, other audio tracks. The program also reprograms the mpeg4 file to fit on a regular sized DVD.  This takes about as long as the movie plays.  I have never had a problem with the audio getting out of sync with the video using this program

Next I go to the "make movie" feature in Nero 6.  I import the unzipped Rifftrax and drop it down into the audio container.  I then play the rifftrax and pause the audio when Mike tells me to.  I then make a segment cut and delete the rifftrax intro. (Don't worry, the original rifftrax remains intact)

I then bring in the mpeg4 movie file and drop it into its container.  Using the grab feature I can adjust the audio rifftrax to sync up perfectly by shifting the audio track back and forth in its container if it is out of sync.  I adjust the movie volume to be just below the Rifftrax volume.  Nero does a good job of equalizing the volume so there are no loud or soft variations after you get the volumes to where you want them.

I then use Nero 6 to add chapters automatically, create a menu screen and then burn the DVD. 

It takes a little over 4 hours to do all this if its a 2 hour movie. I am very pleased with the results
Kudos for a job well done! I followed the directions above and it worked like a charm!

So you used "your own" method and it worked like a charm "for you?"
Call me weird but I find it odd to register another account with the same name as your current profile
in order to give yourself praise for something you posted. This should actually be taken over into the
rifftrax setups post.

Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: Hank on November 19, 2006, 06:12:16 PM
First I pay for the DVD and the Rifftrax (I sell the DVD later)

That's exactly the reason why they don't let you return software and movies to retailers.

Just keep the dang DVD to make it legit.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: Dr Z on November 19, 2006, 08:13:22 PM
I guess I'll throw in my method.

I use only 2 programs to make my Rifftrax DVD's, Nero 6 and DVD Decrypter.

First I pay for the DVD and the Rifftrax (I sell the DVD later)
I unzip the Rifftrax to the folder where I keep them.
I decrypt the movie to my hard drive into its own folder.

Next I start Nero 6 and use the program that converts DVD's to mpeg4.  Nero does an excellent job of identifying the main movie title, which is all you really want, filtering out menus, special features, other audio tracks. The program also reprograms the mpeg4 file to fit on a regular sized DVD.  This takes about as long as the movie plays.  I have never had a problem with the audio getting out of sync with the video using this program

Next I go to the "make movie" feature in Nero 6.  I import the unzipped Rifftrax and drop it down into the audio container.  I then play the rifftrax and pause the audio when Mike tells me to.  I then make a segment cut and delete the rifftrax intro. (Don't worry, the original rifftrax remains intact)

I then bring in the mpeg4 movie file and drop it into its container.  Using the grab feature I can adjust the audio rifftrax to sync up perfectly by shifting the audio track back and forth in its container if it is out of sync.  I adjust the movie volume to be just below the Rifftrax volume.  Nero does a good job of equalizing the volume so there are no loud or soft variations after you get the volumes to where you want them.

I then use Nero 6 to add chapters automatically, create a menu screen and then burn the DVD. 

It takes a little over 4 hours to do all this if its a 2 hour movie. I am very pleased with the results
Kudos for a job well done! I followed the directions above and it worked like a charm!

So you used "your own" method and it worked like a charm "for you?"
Call me weird but I find it odd to register another account with the same name as your current profile
in order to give yourself praise for something you posted. This should actually be taken over into the
rifftrax setups post.



Check with the mods, genius. They can tell you we aren't one in the same person. Take a look around and you'll find plenty of users who share variations of the same beloved MSTK inspired names. We are two different Dr. Z's.

 I am Dr Z.

The other account ,for the user who came up with the formula I was congratulating him for, is Doctor Z. I take no credit for Doctor Z's formula.

Why on earth would anyone use two seperate accounts to toot his own horn in a forum discussion like this? ::)
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: Hank on November 20, 2006, 06:55:25 AM
Stranger things have happened, Dr Z.

And, by no connection, I shall only praise other members with som variation of Hank  ;)
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: SecretAgentSuperDragon on November 20, 2006, 02:20:05 PM
I guess I'll throw in my method.

I use only 2 programs to make my Rifftrax DVD's, Nero 6 and DVD Decrypter.

First I pay for the DVD and the Rifftrax (I sell the DVD later)
I unzip the Rifftrax to the folder where I keep them.
I decrypt the movie to my hard drive into its own folder.

Next I start Nero 6 and use the program that converts DVD's to mpeg4.  Nero does an excellent job of identifying the main movie title, which is all you really want, filtering out menus, special features, other audio tracks. The program also reprograms the mpeg4 file to fit on a regular sized DVD.  This takes about as long as the movie plays.  I have never had a problem with the audio getting out of sync with the video using this program

Next I go to the "make movie" feature in Nero 6.  I import the unzipped Rifftrax and drop it down into the audio container.  I then play the rifftrax and pause the audio when Mike tells me to.  I then make a segment cut and delete the rifftrax intro. (Don't worry, the original rifftrax remains intact)

I then bring in the mpeg4 movie file and drop it into its container.  Using the grab feature I can adjust the audio rifftrax to sync up perfectly by shifting the audio track back and forth in its container if it is out of sync.  I adjust the movie volume to be just below the Rifftrax volume.  Nero does a good job of equalizing the volume so there are no loud or soft variations after you get the volumes to where you want them.

I then use Nero 6 to add chapters automatically, create a menu screen and then burn the DVD. 

It takes a little over 4 hours to do all this if its a 2 hour movie. I am very pleased with the results
Kudos for a job well done! I followed the directions above and it worked like a charm!

So you used "your own" method and it worked like a charm "for you?"
Call me weird but I find it odd to register another account with the same name as your current profile
in order to give yourself praise for something you posted. This should actually be taken over into the
rifftrax setups post.



Check with the mods, genius. They can tell you we aren't one in the same person. Take a look around and you'll find plenty of users who share variations of the same beloved MSTK inspired names. We are two different Dr. Z's.

 I am Dr Z.

The other account ,for the user who came up with the formula I was congratulating him for, is Doctor Z. I take no credit for Doctor Z's formula.

Why on earth would anyone use two seperate accounts to toot his own horn in a forum discussion like this? ::)

Sorry. Didn't realize Dr. Z was that common and desired of a name.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: Dr Z on November 20, 2006, 08:20:33 PM
I guess I'll throw in my method.

I use only 2 programs to make my Rifftrax DVD's, Nero 6 and DVD Decrypter.

First I pay for the DVD and the Rifftrax (I sell the DVD later)
I unzip the Rifftrax to the folder where I keep them.
I decrypt the movie to my hard drive into its own folder.

Next I start Nero 6 and use the program that converts DVD's to mpeg4.  Nero does an excellent job of identifying the main movie title, which is all you really want, filtering out menus, special features, other audio tracks. The program also reprograms the mpeg4 file to fit on a regular sized DVD.  This takes about as long as the movie plays.  I have never had a problem with the audio getting out of sync with the video using this program

Next I go to the "make movie" feature in Nero 6.  I import the unzipped Rifftrax and drop it down into the audio container.  I then play the rifftrax and pause the audio when Mike tells me to.  I then make a segment cut and delete the rifftrax intro. (Don't worry, the original rifftrax remains intact)

I then bring in the mpeg4 movie file and drop it into its container.  Using the grab feature I can adjust the audio rifftrax to sync up perfectly by shifting the audio track back and forth in its container if it is out of sync.  I adjust the movie volume to be just below the Rifftrax volume.  Nero does a good job of equalizing the volume so there are no loud or soft variations after you get the volumes to where you want them.

I then use Nero 6 to add chapters automatically, create a menu screen and then burn the DVD. 

It takes a little over 4 hours to do all this if its a 2 hour movie. I am very pleased with the results
Kudos for a job well done! I followed the directions above and it worked like a charm!

So you used "your own" method and it worked like a charm "for you?"
Call me weird but I find it odd to register another account with the same name as your current profile
in order to give yourself praise for something you posted. This should actually be taken over into the
rifftrax setups post.



Check with the mods, genius. They can tell you we aren't one in the same person. Take a look around and you'll find plenty of users who share variations of the same beloved MSTK inspired names. We are two different Dr. Z's.

 I am Dr Z.

The other account ,for the user who came up with the formula I was congratulating him for, is Doctor Z. I take no credit for Doctor Z's formula.

Why on earth would anyone use two seperate accounts to toot his own horn in a forum discussion like this? ::)

Sorry. Didn't realize Dr. Z was that common and desired of a name.
  :P

Don't you know? It's the hot new name parents are clamoring to name their newborns with!
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: SecretAgentSuperDragon on November 20, 2006, 09:25:34 PM
I prefer Racer X for boys and Agent 99 for girls. ::)
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: eegah on November 22, 2006, 10:56:42 AM
I guess I'll throw in my method.

I use only 2 programs to make my Rifftrax DVD's, Nero 6 and DVD Decrypter.

First I pay for the DVD and the Rifftrax (I sell the DVD later)
I unzip the Rifftrax to the folder where I keep them.
I decrypt the movie to my hard drive into its own folder.

Next I start Nero 6 and use the program that converts DVD's to mpeg4.  Nero does an excellent job of identifying the main movie title, which is all you really want, filtering out menus, special features, other audio tracks. The program also reprograms the mpeg4 file to fit on a regular sized DVD.  This takes about as long as the movie plays.  I have never had a problem with the audio getting out of sync with the video using this program

Next I go to the "make movie" feature in Nero 6.  I import the unzipped Rifftrax and drop it down into the audio container.  I then play the rifftrax and pause the audio when Mike tells me to.  I then make a segment cut and delete the rifftrax intro. (Don't worry, the original rifftrax remains intact)

I then bring in the mpeg4 movie file and drop it into its container.  Using the grab feature I can adjust the audio rifftrax to sync up perfectly by shifting the audio track back and forth in its container if it is out of sync.  I adjust the movie volume to be just below the Rifftrax volume.  Nero does a good job of equalizing the volume so there are no loud or soft variations after you get the volumes to where you want them.

I then use Nero 6 to add chapters automatically, create a menu screen and then burn the DVD. 

It takes a little over 4 hours to do all this if its a 2 hour movie. I am very pleased with the results

When I try to use Nero Recode, I can't add the audio file. Am I not supposed to demux in DVDDecrypter? Or do I re-add the audio in Nero Vision Express?

Update: I recoded the video file but Nero didn't like the mp4 file. I'm officially frustrated. :(
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: SecretAgentSuperDragon on November 22, 2006, 04:38:49 PM
Just follow the original guide man, and you should be good.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: eegah on November 22, 2006, 08:36:53 PM
Just follow the original guide man, and you should be good.

I just got through trying it, and it ALMOST worked. The problem is that if I use any of the location controls on my DVD player (fast forward, chapter forward, etc.), the video will only last a few seconds before freezing.

Any ideas?

Also, I had lowered the gain on the rifftrax audio track before combining it with the movie audio. Based on my results, I'm guessing that you don't want to do that. Is there a particularly good setting, or should I just leave it alone? If I don't convert the rifftrax to WAV format (as someone else mentioned), will there be any issues (or different recommended gain settings)?

Thanks for your help!
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: SecretAgentSuperDragon on November 22, 2006, 10:41:29 PM
Actually, It would be fine to mix the mp3 rifftrax and wav movie audio file together in audacity. I have had no problem before. Also, with audacity, I usually go to the loud/action parts of the movie and compare that audio with the audio of the rifftrax. If I can't here the rifftrax, I either amplify the riff, deamplify the movie audio section, or a combo of both. I did a lot of it in LOTR, but it was worth it in the end. If you are having troubles with the DVD Decrypter timecode (that is if when you go to shrink it with dvd decrypter, it shows incorrect time), then try using a free program called tmpgenc 2.5. You can select your decrypted audio file and video file, mix them together, and it will create a correct timed mpeg for you. Then just find some mpeg dvd authoring software to burn it and you'll be good to go.
Hope that helps.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: Winterkid on November 23, 2006, 01:08:12 AM
Sorry. Didn't realize Dr. Z was that common and desired of a name.
Guess if I decide to have kids, Cristopher Roy isn't such a great name after all.  "HONEY, I got a GREAT idea for the baby!"

I have to buy a DVD-RW and do this one of these days.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: DoctorZ on November 23, 2006, 02:20:58 AM
I guess I'll throw in my method.

I use only 2 programs to make my Rifftrax DVD's, Nero 6 and DVD Decrypter.

First I pay for the DVD and the Rifftrax (I sell the DVD later)
I unzip the Rifftrax to the folder where I keep them.
I decrypt the movie to my hard drive into its own folder.

Next I start Nero 6 and use the program that converts DVD's to mpeg4.  Nero does an excellent job of identifying the main movie title, which is all you really want, filtering out menus, special features, other audio tracks. The program also reprograms the mpeg4 file to fit on a regular sized DVD.  This takes about as long as the movie plays.  I have never had a problem with the audio getting out of sync with the video using this program

Next I go to the "make movie" feature in Nero 6.  I import the unzipped Rifftrax and drop it down into the audio container.  I then play the rifftrax and pause the audio when Mike tells me to.  I then make a segment cut and delete the rifftrax intro. (Don't worry, the original rifftrax remains intact)

I then bring in the mpeg4 movie file and drop it into its container.  Using the grab feature I can adjust the audio rifftrax to sync up perfectly by shifting the audio track back and forth in its container if it is out of sync.  I adjust the movie volume to be just below the Rifftrax volume.  Nero does a good job of equalizing the volume so there are no loud or soft variations after you get the volumes to where you want them.

I then use Nero 6 to add chapters automatically, create a menu screen and then burn the DVD. 

It takes a little over 4 hours to do all this if its a 2 hour movie. I am very pleased with the results
Kudos for a job well done! I followed the directions above and it worked like a charm!

So you used "your own" method and it worked like a charm "for you?"
Call me weird but I find it odd to register another account with the same name as your current profile
in order to give yourself praise for something you posted. This should actually be taken over into the
rifftrax setups post.



Check with the mods, genius. They can tell you we aren't one in the same person. Take a look around and you'll find plenty of users who share variations of the same beloved MSTK inspired names. We are two different Dr. Z's.

 I am Dr Z.

The other account ,for the user who came up with the formula I was congratulating him for, is Doctor Z. I take no credit for Doctor Z's formula.

Why on earth would anyone use two seperate accounts to toot his own horn in a forum discussion like this? ::)

Sorry. Didn't realize Dr. Z was that common and desired of a name.
  :P

Don't you know? It's the hot new name parents are clamoring to name their newborns with!

(snort)  :)Yes, it's a name that is sweeping the country!  For the record I am not Dr. Z. (I am not narcissic or scitzoid enough to have two identities so I can praise myself.)  I don't really know any of you folks so what would be the point of trying to impress you all with my pathetic and meager computer skills?  While we are at this I am also not the California Doctor Z of TikiCentral and mixology fame.  I am the Florida Doctor Z since I live nearby most of the shooting locations of "The Blood Waters of Doctor Z" or "ZAAT" as it's known around here.  I also had nothing to do with the other Doctor Z movie, "The Diabolical Doctor Z."  I am not into wierd French body modification films. I hope this clears the air.  ;)
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: eegah on November 23, 2006, 05:27:54 AM
If you are having troubles with the DVD Decrypter timecode (that is if when you go to shrink it with dvd decrypter, it shows incorrect time), then try using a free program called tmpgenc 2.5. You can select your decrypted audio file and video file, mix them together, and it will create a correct timed mpeg for you. Then just find some mpeg dvd authoring software to burn it and you'll be good to go.
Hope that helps.

Do you think that's the culprit for my video freezing problem? I mean, the movie looks and sounds great and is sync'd perfectly and I can pause and restart until the cows come home, but any "shuffling" or chapter skipping and it's curtains after a few seconds. I didn't notice the time in dvd decrypter, so I guess I'll try to re-burn and see.

Thanks.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: Hank on November 23, 2006, 09:28:45 AM
I don't really know any of you folks so what would be the point of trying to impress you all with my pathetic and meager computer skills? 

I guess you'd be shocked (SHOCKED! :o ) to find out that is exactly how some people on message boards operate.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: MrTorso on November 23, 2006, 10:21:30 AM
Do you think that's the culprit for my video freezing problem? I mean, the movie looks and sounds great and is sync'd perfectly and I can pause and restart until the cows come home, but any "shuffling" or chapter skipping and it's curtains after a few seconds. I didn't notice the time in dvd decrypter, so I guess I'll try to re-burn and see.

Thanks.

Did you try another DVD player?
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: SecretAgentSuperDragon on November 23, 2006, 10:27:04 AM
Do you think that's the culprit for my video freezing problem? I mean, the movie looks and sounds great and is sync'd perfectly and I can pause and restart until the cows come home, but any "shuffling" or chapter skipping and it's curtains after a few seconds. I didn't notice the time in dvd decrypter, so I guess I'll try to re-burn and see.

Thanks.

Did you try another DVD player?
Yeah, another dvd player might work. I know that when my dvds are created with the timecode problem, they won't play properly on wmp, powerdvd, interactual, real player, or my xbox. But they do play perfect with intervideo dvd player on my computer, and my tv's dvd player. But just go ahead and recheck the timecode. The only problem I have noticed is that it takes a little while to rewind on intervideo player, but it does so after 30 seconds. No problem with the regular dvd player.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: eegah on November 24, 2006, 06:34:10 PM
Do you think that's the culprit for my video freezing problem? I mean, the movie looks and sounds great and is sync'd perfectly and I can pause and restart until the cows come home, but any "shuffling" or chapter skipping and it's curtains after a few seconds. I didn't notice the time in dvd decrypter, so I guess I'll try to re-burn and see.

Thanks.

Did you try another DVD player?
Yeah, another dvd player might work. I know that when my dvds are created with the timecode problem, they won't play properly on wmp, powerdvd, interactual, real player, or my xbox. But they do play perfect with intervideo dvd player on my computer, and my tv's dvd player. But just go ahead and recheck the timecode. The only problem I have noticed is that it takes a little while to rewind on intervideo player, but it does so after 30 seconds. No problem with the regular dvd player.

It works fine on my PC, freezes on my Pioneer, and jumps on my Playstation 2.

I've tried changing the "Patch M2V Timecode" option on DVD Decrypter, using MPEG2VCR to correct timecode errors, burning with Nero instead of DVD Shrink, and using different media (DVD-R & DVD+RW). The result is always the same. :(
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: SecretAgentSuperDragon on November 28, 2006, 04:23:26 PM
I think that if you take the demuxed audio and video file and put it into tmpgenc (the free one), then you will get an mpeg with the correct timecode. Then you can either convert it to an avi or whatever, or reauthor it with a dvd authoring program that lets you mess around with mpeg authors, like tmpgenc dvd author 2.0

If you need more help, gammer can help you out with his guide for mpeg rifftraxies.

http://www3.sympatico.ca/inch77/instructions.htm (http://www3.sympatico.ca/inch77/instructions.htm)
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: DarthSN on December 05, 2006, 05:08:08 AM
I just wanted to say thanks to SecretAgentSuperDragon for the guide.  I choose Fellowship as my first movie and it worked beautifully!  I was able to silence out the toaster and increase Mike and Kevin's audio during the loud parts of the movie perfectly.

It is so much nicer being able to rewind and stuff!  Thanks again!!!
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: truxartis on December 05, 2006, 10:35:38 PM
Hello. Not quite sure if this is the right place to ask but I've been having a ton of problems lately and maybe you guys could help.

I used the process to make about half a dozen riffs into DVD's, but suddenly it stopped working. When I try to use IFOedit on Cocktail, Road House and the Fifth Element at the same % every time IFOedit stops working and says "too many frame drops". It's said this before with other DVD's, but then you try them a second time and they work.

Not with these. I've tried them all a dozen times, nothin.

Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: nakedandsavage on December 06, 2006, 04:06:21 AM
Not actually tried making my own yet but does anyone have any ideas on making divx/xvid versions?All my mst3k are in that format.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: James of LinHood on December 06, 2006, 11:02:35 AM
I used the process to make about half a dozen riffs into DVD's, but suddenly it stopped working. When I try to use IFOedit on Cocktail, Road House and the Fifth Element at the same % every time IFOedit stops working and says "too many frame drops". It's said this before with other DVD's, but then you try them a second time and they work.

Not with these. I've tried them all a dozen times, nothin.

Have you tried deleting IFOedit and reinstalling it?  That might work.  I've burned copies of all three of those using SuperDragon's guide and never had a problem.  If you're also following the guide then I'm sure the problem is with IFOedit.

You could also try using another DVD Authoring program.  Here's where you can find some for free:  http://www.videohelp.com/tools?s=2#2 (http://www.videohelp.com/tools?s=2#2).
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: Shinigami on December 06, 2006, 11:16:33 AM
You can also try ReJig.  It does pretty much the same thing as IfoEdit, and it's supposed to be more compatible with NTSC.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: truxartis on December 06, 2006, 11:04:12 PM
ReJig worked great! (After I had to convert the wavs back to AC3) Not only did it work no problems, but it plays in a DVD player it didn't before.

Thanks for the help.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: BathTub on December 07, 2006, 06:07:23 AM
ARgh for the first time, the Goldwave plugin put that delay in, going to have to watch quite closely for that now.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: MrTorso on December 07, 2006, 12:59:32 PM
ARgh for the first time, the Goldwave plugin put that delay in, going to have to watch quite closely for that now.

It has put that delay in for me every single time I have used it. 
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: eegah on December 08, 2006, 05:08:34 AM
I think that if you take the demuxed audio and video file and put it into tmpgenc (the free one), then you will get an mpeg with the correct timecode. Then you can either convert it to an avi or whatever, or reauthor it with a dvd authoring program that lets you mess around with mpeg authors, like tmpgenc dvd author 2.0

Tried. Failed. Sad. :(
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: MrTorso on December 08, 2006, 10:22:01 AM
For fixing timecodes I have used the GOP fixer in Womble's MPEG Video Wizard as well as the one in DVD Lab Pro 2 and they work well.

Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: James of LinHood on December 12, 2006, 09:45:47 AM
Since Nestor is on a compilation DVD is it even possible to make DVD Decryptor only rip the Nestor audio and video from the DVD?  I don't own the DVD, otherwise I would've experimented with it on DVD Decryptor already.

If anyone knows whether or not DVD Decryptor is smart enough to pick out individual episodes on a DVD please let me know.  Thanks!
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: BathTub on December 12, 2006, 09:57:35 AM
I don't see why not, many of the dvds have had extra featurettes and stuff on them, it just picks the longest one by default iirc, you would just have to select the appropriate stream.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: MrTorso on December 12, 2006, 11:37:28 AM
I have the DVD and when you launch DVD Decrypter Nestor is PGC 3
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: gammer on December 12, 2006, 11:58:50 AM
Since Nestor is on a compilation DVD is it even possible to make DVD Decryptor only rip the Nestor audio and video from the DVD?  I don't own the DVD, otherwise I would've experimented with it on DVD Decryptor already.

If anyone knows whether or not DVD Decryptor is smart enough to pick out individual episodes on a DVD please let me know.  Thanks!

DVD Decrypter picks the main title by default. But if you explore a bit you will see that you can specify other titles to rip. You can test this by popping in a DVD of TV shows, like X-Files or Friends or whatever. DVD Decrypter will pick the longest ep, but you can select any other.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: Hank on December 12, 2006, 11:51:37 PM
If you stream process with Smartripper, you can choose Nestor from the three by length of time. That way, you rip it and have the streams ready for rauthoring in one step.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: leeving on December 25, 2006, 12:01:49 AM
I had a PM asking how I made my discs.  I figured I could post it here too.

Most of it is from the original post, but some other things are trial and error.  I've been wondering about the goldave VO plug in.
do you guys use the eval version or full.....I was going to try it out but didn't know if the eval can be used for a full length movie or had some other restrictions.


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I'm making a Fifth Element dvd right now, so I'll try to write down my steps.

I used to use dvd decrypter in ifo mode, but lately I've been using rejig for a lot of the steps.  it works kinda the same, but keeps me from using 1 or 2 less programs.

1. dumux in ifo mode with rejig. Check the video, and an audio stream. (and English subs if you want)  If a 2 channel stereo stream is available I usually check that, but that's just my choice. make sure to check the DEMUX under video options on the left side.  check to correct ac3 delay and since I keep the movies subs, i check to convert subs to sup format.  ---this takes about 20 minutes to rip.

2. Run the AC3 through ac3tool.  It has to analyze it first, then select ac3>wave.  I keep all these setting unchanged. --about 10 minutes

3. import the new Movie.wav into Audacity. And then load the rifftrax mp3.  i drag them from the folder into the program...it's easier for me that way.

4. then I look at the text file and see when Disembaudio's first sync is.  get a sense of where it is in the movie and how it "looks" as a sound....highlight the intro to the rifftrax right up to after "pause" and hit delete. in that little space of silence I start COPY and pasting about 30 seconds worth to get the sync close to each other.  then comes the small .2 and .0001 adjustments that you make to the rifftrax. some copy paste if the riff is ahead some cutting if it is behind.  i like to use the "fit in selection" button here.  second from the right with all the other magnifying buttons.

If you get the first lined up all the others are good too, but i usually check the last one to be sure.


Make sure you never "add silence" or do ANY editing to the movie audio..it will be out of sync when you author.  adding silence adds to both tracks, and you don't want to mess with the movie audio.

with that done you can go through and cut out disembaudio's lines, but thats if you want to...i don't mind them. 

Then i move the gain on the left side...I move the Movie track down a bit to -3 and the rifftrax up to +3 or +6. 

that's that....export as a wave. and go smoke. -- 10 - 20 minutes...you get better at it in time.


5.  take your new wave and run it through ffmpeggui to make it an ac3

6.  open rejig back up in DVD AUTHOR mode

  load up the video, new audio ac3, and the subs if you want them-- set the output and hit create.

the down side of using rejig to rip is that you don't get the chapter text that you can get through dvd decrypter.

7.  Depending on the size you may have to use dvd shrink to make it fit on a dvd.  For The Fifth Element I used the Superbit version...this is over 5 gigs, so I will have to encode it.  Either way it's good to use dvd shrink, it can make it an iso and then burn, so it saves me a little time.

hope this works for you...let me know your results.

I don't do divx or xvid, and find that for all that work that it takes, making it to a dvd is a lot easier and make the movie still look good.

Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: BathTub on December 25, 2006, 05:23:31 AM
I use the evaluation version, about halfway through the allowed uses.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: EVOLUTION117 on December 28, 2006, 11:42:40 AM
Ok, so I've got a new PC and a whole new set of problems... Well, actually just one problem relating to ffmpeggui.

I've got the audio all set up and ready to go using a combination of Audacity and the Goldwave Voice Plugin, and now all that's left is to convert it to AC3.

The only problem is that it won't convert and I get an error message saying:

Quote
TProgressBar property out of range.

As always, all help will be greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: SecretAgentSuperDragon on December 28, 2006, 02:20:00 PM
Ok, so I've got a new PC and a whole new set of problems... Well, actually just one problem relating to ffmpeggui.

I've got the audio all set up and ready to go using a combination of Audacity and the Goldwave Voice Plugin, and now all that's left is to convert it to AC3.

The only problem is that it won't convert and I get an error message saying:

Quote
TProgressBar property out of range.

As always, all help will be greatly appreciated.

If ffmpeg isn't working for you, you can always try belight in combo w/ besweet.
Download Besweet first and extract the folder to where you want it. Then download Belight and extract it so that it ends up in the besweet folder. There will be an icon for besweet and belight, but belight is the one you will always want to use. It is pretty much a universal encoder. It takes a little bit longer to encode audio but it gets the job done. Trying looking at www.videohelp.com/tools (http://www.videohelp.com/tools) for those two downloads.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: EVOLUTION117 on December 28, 2006, 03:12:31 PM
Okay, downloaded Belight and BeSweet, tried  converting it and according to the .log file created by it:
Quote
Error 58: Error : Unknown Input-File Format : "C:Documents and SettingsDesktopStar Wars PMRTStar Wars Episode I - The Phantom Menace (Rifftrax Edition).wav".
Quiting...
[00:00:00:000] Conversion Completed !                                   
Logging ends : 12/28/06 , 23:03:36.


And more on the ffmpeggui front:

Quote
ffmpeg version 0.4.9-pre1, build 4743, Copyright (c) 2000-2004 Fabrice Bellard
  configuration:  --enable-mp3lame --enable-vorbis --enable-faad --enable-faac --enable-xvid --enable-mingw32 --enable-a52 --enable-dts --enable-pp --enable-gpl --enable-memalign-hack
  built on Feb 22 2005 04:58:29, gcc: 3.4.2 (mingw-special)
Input #0, wav, from 'C:Documents and SettingsDesktopXMENRTX-Men (Rifftrax Edition).wav':
  Duration: 01:40:02.4, start: 0.000000, bitrate: 3072 kb/s
  Stream #0.0: Audio: 0xfffe, 48000 Hz, stereo, 3072 kb/s
Output #0, ac3, to 'C:Documents and SettingsDesktopXMENRTVTS_02_1 - 0x80 - Audio - AC3 - 6ch - 48fkHz - DRC - English - DELAY -95ms.AC3':
  Stream #0.0: Audio: ac3, 48000 Hz, stereo, 192 kb/s
Stream mapping:
  Stream #0.0 -> #0.0
Unsupported codec (id=0) for input stream #0.0

Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: SecretAgentSuperDragon on December 28, 2006, 08:44:14 PM
Well I'm unfamiliar with the whole goldwave thing, since I use only audacity. Maybe try converting your current wav file to mp3, then to ac3.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: Shinigami on December 28, 2006, 09:00:49 PM
I'm not sure why ffmpeggui is causing problems, maybe see if you can find a different version. 

I personally used BeLight to convert AC3 to wav and ffmpeggui to convert wav to AC3.  Apparently Belight doesn't produce proper AC3 files, so there's incompatibility with certain DVD player models.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: leeving on December 28, 2006, 11:03:44 PM
Looks like you may need to get AC3 Filter codec. may help.

http://www.videohelp.com/tools?tool=AC3_Filter
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: EVOLUTION117 on December 29, 2006, 12:10:30 PM
And once again SIMPLICITY paves the way forward for the solution to my problem.

I tried downloading that AC3 Filter and it still didn't work.

So, after exporting the Mixed wav file (using the Voice Plugin) from Goldwave and finding that ffmpeggui wouldn't convert it, I decided to pop that newly mixed wav back into Audacity and export it as a wav again from there.

Popped it back into ffmpeggui, and tho and behold it worked.  :D
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: SecretAgentSuperDragon on December 30, 2006, 12:42:22 AM
ah yes. The majesty of audacity.





I like to rhyme sometimes.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: kodiakthejuggler on December 30, 2006, 09:24:23 AM
I'm having some sort of crazy issue with Audacity.

When I start the program, my computer's audio drops out, and doesn't come back until I restart!!

What's that about??
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: SecretAgentSuperDragon on December 30, 2006, 11:44:18 AM
Could be your computer. I've never heard of anything like that happening. Maybe try uninstalling it and downloading it again.

Otherwise, call your computer's manufacturer.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: kodiakthejuggler on December 31, 2006, 01:49:08 PM
I am my computer's manufacturer.   ;)

I'm thinking it's my lousy sound card. It was very cheap, and I've had various audio problems.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: SecretAgentSuperDragon on December 31, 2006, 04:14:02 PM
You got a good computer surplus place around? Those places are really nice for picking up what you want at a great price.

Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: AmandaGal on December 31, 2006, 04:46:38 PM
I am my computer's manufacturer.   ;)

I think you should call yourself up and put yourself on hold for hours and hours before you finally come on the line and spend an hour trying to fix the problem via software when it's a hardware issue.  That's what most manufacturers do.

Hey, I'm a Magneto-cent Member now, the magic number must be 250.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: pyro on January 02, 2007, 11:52:42 PM
Star Trek V has been a pain in my ass for the past week...

I just wrote out a long rant about the process but I decided to just put it in a text file to remind myself how horrible this could end up   :P


short story, spent about a week on and off working with this through many problems ripping, compressing, burning, etc only to finally be able to burn it and have it work perfectly up till 2 minutes left in the film where the sound suddenly goes out  completely :D
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: PsypherPunk on January 03, 2007, 04:09:06 AM
I'm having some sort of crazy issue with Audacity.

When I start the program, my computer's audio drops out, and doesn't come back until I restart!!

I occasionally get issues like this (either Audacity locks the sound system or it's already "in use" and Audacity can't play sound). In Linux you can just restart the sound system: ('rcalsasound restart' or
'/etc/init.d/alsa restart'). No idea what the equivalent would be in Windows.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: BEERxTaco on January 04, 2007, 11:15:10 AM
I guess I'll throw in my method.

I use only 2 programs to make my Rifftrax DVD's, Nero 6 and DVD Decrypter.

First I pay for the DVD and the Rifftrax (I sell the DVD later)
I unzip the Rifftrax to the folder where I keep them.
I decrypt the movie to my hard drive into its own folder.

Next I start Nero 6 and use the program that converts DVD's to mpeg4.  Nero does an excellent job of identifying the main movie title, which is all you really want, filtering out menus, special features, other audio tracks. The program also reprograms the mpeg4 file to fit on a regular sized DVD.  This takes about as long as the movie plays.  I have never had a problem with the audio getting out of sync with the video using this program

Next I go to the "make movie" feature in Nero 6.  I import the unzipped Rifftrax and drop it down into the audio container.  I then play the rifftrax and pause the audio when Mike tells me to.  I then make a segment cut and delete the rifftrax intro. (Don't worry, the original rifftrax remains intact)

I then bring in the mpeg4 movie file and drop it into its container.  Using the grab feature I can adjust the audio rifftrax to sync up perfectly by shifting the audio track back and forth in its container if it is out of sync.  I adjust the movie volume to be just below the Rifftrax volume.  Nero does a good job of equalizing the volume so there are no loud or soft variations after you get the volumes to where you want them.

I then use Nero 6 to add chapters automatically, create a menu screen and then burn the DVD. 

It takes a little over 4 hours to do all this if its a 2 hour movie. I am very pleased with the results

I'm probably getting ahead of myself here (since I don't have a DVD burner in my PC yet lol) but I must say I like the simplicity of this method (except for selling the original DVD, that sounds like too much work lol). Is there anything special required of the DVD Decrypter step or is the method described in the original post by SASD still the proper way to go about it? Anyone have any issues/problems with this method (besides the one that was posted)?

Oh, and I have Nero 7, any thoughts on this changing the process, adding steps or making life in general easier? I have a burner on order as we speak, lol...
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: SecretAgentSuperDragon on January 04, 2007, 06:01:20 PM
Well, BeerxTaco, I must say that my guide more or less has a success rate of about 85%. It usually works for everyone, and the dvds I make play in pretty much any player, including the xbox/360.

Sometimes though, due to a computer's hardware and/or software configurations, there will be problems for a couple of people. My suggestion to them is to check out some of the other guides.

As far as the DVD decrypter step goes, and even the guide in general, if you follow it word for word, it will work.

If you are one of the 15% who haven't gotten a proper working dvd, usually just post questions here and somebody should be able to help you. But if it seems to be something unfixable with your hardware or software, then I would suggest reading some other guides.

A friend of mine had a dvd decrypter timecode problem that was messing with his dvd's timecodes, but he tried tmpgenc and its dvd author and it worked good. The only problem in doing it with tmpgenc is that it is not free, while my entire guide shows you how to make the rifftrax dvds using free software that you do not need to pay for or let the trial run out.

Uggh. Now that I'm done rambling, I'll leave it up to you to do what you want. Hope I could help out a little though. ;)
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: BEERxTaco on January 05, 2007, 07:02:56 AM
Thanks Mr. Super Dragon, and all of you who have posted here... I'm sure I will find some measure of success in some way, somehow, lol. I'm just lazy by nature and am looking forward to the simnplest route possible, at least for a first attempt... ;D
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: leeving on January 05, 2007, 12:09:01 PM
it seems we may need a new thread for those that convert to divx/xvid/mp4.  As this one is more for dvd-to-dvd creating.

As for making avi's, i've found it is much harder to do correctly and still get good quality.  dvd-to-dvd conversion is actually much simpler for me to do, and Friends can watch it if they want to borrow them.  I've got a philips 642 so I could play divx if I wanted to, but that conversion process seems to be a little over my head.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: SecretAgentSuperDragon on January 05, 2007, 01:18:43 PM
Well if you just want the video on your computer, I suggest using Windows Movie maker. Just rip your bought and paid for dvd onto the hard drive as a divx or mpeg or something (i'm sure www.videohelp.com/tools (http://www.videohelp.com/tools) has something that will do that) then open it up with windows movie maker and import the rifftrax file into the audio section(right under video section), and line it up so that its perfect, then save the entire thing as a wmv. There you go.

Only reason I don't do this is because I find that it takes up a lot of space on my hard drive, and it's just easier to make a $0.25 DVD.

But there you go.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: Alleged on January 07, 2007, 05:23:51 PM
It's not free, but Adobe Premiere simply works wonderfully in a. capturing the movie (I have gobs of laserdiscs/DVDs/VHS tapes and already own 75% of Rifftrax movies) and b. overlaying the Rifftrax audio and c. setting the audio to an appropriate level.

DVD-lab (shareware and reasonably priced) works as a DVD Authoring solution since I usually put the normal soundtrack as an option instead of the Rifftrax'ed soundtrack.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: gammer on January 07, 2007, 07:12:55 PM
It's not free, but Adobe Premiere simply works wonderfully in a. capturing the movie (I have gobs of laserdiscs/DVDs/VHS tapes and already own 75% of Rifftrax movies) and b. overlaying the Rifftrax audio and c. setting the audio to an appropriate level.

DVD-lab (shareware and reasonably priced) works as a DVD Authoring solution since I usually put the normal soundtrack as an option instead of the Rifftrax'ed soundtrack.

Ideally if you want to sustain quality, you shouldn't capture from a DVD. Ripping it is the best method, play with the audio only (mixing), then mux the audio back to the original video and re-author. If the final re-author is bigger then 4.35 GB, then either burn to a dual layer DVD or use DVD shrink to make it fit to a single layer DVD.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: Grillslinger on January 08, 2007, 11:24:15 AM
Here's a question. I some movies (especially matrix and LOTR), the audio goes waaaaay up in places and the riffers are overpowered. Would it help to use the stereo track instead of the 5.1 track wen making the DVD?
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: BathTub on January 08, 2007, 11:25:41 AM
not using any plugins to mix the audio?
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: gammer on January 08, 2007, 06:43:44 PM
Here's a question. I some movies (especially matrix and LOTR), the audio goes waaaaay up in places and the riffers are overpowered. Would it help to use the stereo track instead of the 5.1 track wen making the DVD?

You should use the Gold Wave Voice Over Plug in. More info in this thread:
http://www.rifftrax.com/smf/index.php?topic=583.0
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: Alleged on January 09, 2007, 08:16:21 PM
It's not free, but Adobe Premiere simply works wonderfully in a. capturing the movie (I have gobs of laserdiscs/DVDs/VHS tapes and already own 75% of Rifftrax movies) and b. overlaying the Rifftrax audio and c. setting the audio to an appropriate level.

DVD-lab (shareware and reasonably priced) works as a DVD Authoring solution since I usually put the normal soundtrack as an option instead of the Rifftrax'ed soundtrack.

Ideally if you want to sustain quality, you shouldn't capture from a DVD. Ripping it is the best method, play with the audio only (mixing), then mux the audio back to the original video and re-author. If the final re-author is bigger then 4.35 GB, then either burn to a dual layer DVD or use DVD shrink to make it fit to a single layer DVD.

It's not about quality, never has been.  In any case one cannot rip a laserdisc or VHS tape, it must be captured in analog.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: PJD on January 14, 2007, 08:32:30 PM
This thread has been a HUGE help to me. Thanks to everybody who has posted.
Can I suggest it be stickyed?
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: PJD on January 15, 2007, 12:06:39 AM
OK so I've been working on Top Gun ALL NIGHT and I keep getting stuck. I need DVD Shrinkl to make the files small enough to burn onto a disk (got lucky on halloween and Cocktail and it fit) and heres the problem.

DVD shrink cant open the files from the folder after I make them with the the ifoedit program. Anyone have any thoughts on the problem. The ifoedit also turned it into six .99 gig chunks that are DVD movie files.
I feel like I'm so close.
Help, Please?



On an unrelated note I have the sound sounding killer. I used Adobe audition to turn down the loud parts of the movie (there are many) and just turned it back up in the softer parts.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: BathTub on January 15, 2007, 12:26:23 AM
Are you 'opening files' and then just selecting the appropriate directory? rather than trying to select individual files.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: PJD on January 15, 2007, 12:40:18 AM
Are you 'opening files' and then just selecting the appropriate directory? rather than trying to select individual files.

It's like it doesn't see the files at all which has me wondering if i used the ifoedit program correctly. I get this error message

DVD Shrink has encountered a problem and cannot continue
Failed to open "C:TOP_GUN_DISC1VIDEO_TSTop Gun Take 5VIDEO_TS.IFO"
The system cannot find the file specified.



I know therte are movie files in there and ifoedit broke them into .99 Gig chunks
ifoedit also keeps crashing at 99 or 100 percent through the job.

I gotta go to bed now
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: BathTub on January 15, 2007, 01:01:26 AM
Well if Ifoedit isn't finishing then I would think that is a good place to start in looking for the error.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: PJD on January 15, 2007, 10:21:10 AM
I've been looking at this too long.
I used Nero to get a perfect mpeg of the entire movie with commentary out of the 6 pieces that were made with ifo edit. DVD shrink won't open the files from any of those. DVD shrink needs ifo files, right? What do I use to make the correct files from the .mpg file? ifoedit? My brain is reeeling! I made a few successfully with fewer problems, but the movies were shorter.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: SecretAgentSuperDragon on January 15, 2007, 11:31:38 AM
If ifoedit is messing you up, try rejig (http://download.videohelp.com/download/Rejig05f.zip) instead as an alternative. It will pretty much do the same thing as ifoedit. Maybe then you will be able to get your files open in dvd shrink.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: gammer on January 15, 2007, 11:35:18 AM
If ifoedit is messing you up, try rejig (http://download.videohelp.com/download/Rejig05f.zip) instead as an alternative. It will pretty much do the same thing as ifoedit. Maybe then you will be able to get your files open in dvd shrink.

Doesn't rejig only work if there is no copyright protection on the DVD?
I think you need to rip the entire disc to your hard drive first with something like DVD Decrypter, then use rejig to grab the M2V and AC3 file.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: SecretAgentSuperDragon on January 15, 2007, 12:04:26 PM
No, rejig is pretty much a surrogate for ifoedit. If you click on its dvd author tab, a very similar menu to ifoedit for inputting the m2v and ac3 files will pop up. Then you just do the same thing you do in ifoedit.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: PJD on January 15, 2007, 06:10:07 PM
If ifoedit is messing you up, try rejig (http://download.videohelp.com/download/Rejig05f.zip) instead as an alternative. It will pretty much do the same thing as ifoedit. Maybe then you will be able to get your files open in dvd shrink.
Whew, thank you! That did it. It took an hour and a half to burn in DVD shrink, I must not have it just right but it worked!
Thanks a bunch and somebody sticky this thread.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide
Post by: gammer on January 15, 2007, 07:10:51 PM
In any case one cannot rip a laserdisc or VHS tape, it must be captured in analog.

Agree'd.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: SecretAgentSuperDragon on January 18, 2007, 05:12:34 PM
For those of you who have not seen it already, I have created a brand new, faster, easier guide called
"RIFFTRAX LITE." I have added it to my original post on page 1, so check it out (http://www.rifftrax.com/smf/index.php?topic=413.msg8788#msg8788). You won't be disappointed.  ;)
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: TheRealJon on January 20, 2007, 10:45:43 PM
Many thanks for this guide, I have successfully made 6-7 Rifftrax DVD's using it.

I do have a question though, just recently I bought Daredevil and when using DVD Decrypter to rip the audio/video it errors out at about 40-43% into the rip.  I figured maybe the disc was scratched or something, even though there didn't appear to be any scratches.  So I decided to go get Star Wars Episode 1, a new DVD and tried it and the same thing is now happenning.  Is there another program I can try to use to rip these ... or could this be my DVD-R drive?  I was able to rip LOTR between those two just to make sure it was working.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: SecretAgentSuperDragon on January 21, 2007, 01:28:02 AM

Check out the .RIFFTRAX LITE (http://www.rifftrax.com/smf/index.php?topic=413.msg8788#msg8788). That might help you out. Its near the top of my post.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: cropsy13 on January 21, 2007, 10:33:59 AM
I finally did it this morning (Making a rifftrax DVD) with Star trek V.

Problem is The Star Trek audio is Really low, but the Trax is spot on.

Not bad for a first try
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: SecretAgentSuperDragon on January 21, 2007, 10:36:19 AM
For your next rifftrax, try checking amplify and raising it about 10 db when your in the px3 convert program. That should help. I know for a fact that you will have to do it on daredevil.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Grillslinger on January 21, 2007, 06:16:10 PM
Should the Normalize box be checked when converting to wav?
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: SecretAgentSuperDragon on January 22, 2007, 12:46:02 PM
It depends on how you edit your audio. If you normalize it, you will more than likely have to amplify the quiet speaking parts of the movie. If you do not normalize, you will have to turn down all the loud parts of the movie in Audacity.

Usually, I don't check normalize, because then I can hear the speaking dialogue, and it is a lot easier to go and turn down the couple action scenes than it is to turn up all the talking scenes. This is just for me and audacity, however. I don't like Goldwave's voiceover plugin because it turns down the audio when the guys are riffing, so that it sounds more like a dvd commentary instead of a MST3K episode.

What movie are you planning on doing?
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: eegah on January 27, 2007, 07:53:41 PM
Use Aften, not BeSweet or ffmpeg, for AC3 conversion!

ffmpeg and BeSweet don't create 100% compliant AC3 files, which causes problems in Pioneer DVD players.

http://kurtnoise.free.fr/index.php?dir=Aften/

This gave me lots of problems and now I need to go back and re-create all of my Rifftrax DVDs.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: TheRealJon on January 30, 2007, 11:59:35 AM
Hm, I tried using the program in the rifftrax lite directions and it only rips about a 2 gig file from my Episode 1 DVD.

THis is really frustrating.  Both Daredevil and Episode 1 get stuck in DVD decrypter between 40-45% every time.  Tried restarting, cleaning off the dvd, nothing seems to work.  Has anyone experienced this problem?  Should I get a new DVD drive?
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: SecretAgentSuperDragon on January 30, 2007, 02:43:44 PM
Well first off, are you using DVD Decrypter or Rejig. Use rejig and let me know what happens.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: TheRealJon on January 31, 2007, 06:05:37 AM
I'll retry using Rejig tonight.  But last time I used it I got about a 2 gig output file which seemed really small compared to the usual 4-5 gig file I get, the audio AC3 file seemed normal but the video seemed small.  But anyways, I'll try it out tonight and hope for the best.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: TheRealJon on January 31, 2007, 08:01:37 PM
Just confirmed, rejig rips half the movie then moves on so yeah I get a half file from it.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Blueguy on February 01, 2007, 08:54:43 AM
I've done Fifth Element and Star Wars now with the guide, only using GoldWave instead of Audacity (it doesn't like me).  I thought things were fine, with the exception that my chapter breaks aren't working.  I've copied over the file needed in Rejig, but it seems like they don't work when I play the DVD since I can't skip chapters.  I didn't see anyone else mentioning a problem with it.  Is there something I could be missing?
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: SecretAgentSuperDragon on February 01, 2007, 02:37:01 PM
Yeah. Rejih's chaptering scheme is a little weird, I just discovered. Go ahead and rip the chapter info(for ifoedit) w/ DVD Decrypter and you should be good. Make sure it is checked NTSC or PAL depending on your region when you reauthor in rejig, then it should work. This has only happened a couple times for me, but if it seems to be a real problem, I'll put a note of it on the front page.

In response to TheRealJon, It is possible that it is your dvd drive. If it's stopping at 40%, either your disc is scratched or your drive is messed up. If you got a surplus store nearby, you can usually pick up a decent dvd burner for $10-$15.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: TheRealJon on February 02, 2007, 06:31:09 AM
Yeah, its a fairly old drive so I wouldn't be surprised.  I'll just pick up a new one and I should be back on track.  Anyways thanks for the guide, works sonderful when my DVD drive wants to work :)
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Blueguy on February 02, 2007, 08:58:28 AM
Thanks, I got the chapters working, but the subtitles didn't work.  I'm going to try again, but I suspect I'll get the same result.  Do you have a sure-fire way of getting them working? 

I tried a guide on here, but that was a bit of a long, drawn-out process and too much manual work and I think there was a mistake in it anyway.
I went off the write-up someone linked on doom9.org and followed that very closely.  I got the .sup files but playing the movie it isn't working still. 
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: SecretAgentSuperDragon on February 02, 2007, 03:33:02 PM
Shinigami usually puts subtitles up here, but they unfortunately are in .srt format. You can try googling for your .sup file for whatever movie your doing, or, you can find a srt to sup converting program to download. Check out www.videohelp.com/tools (http://www.videohelp.com/tools)
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Shinigami on February 02, 2007, 03:55:35 PM
Subtitle Creator, it'll create a sup from an srt.  .srt's are smaller, editable, and are pretty easy to make into .sup's with subtitle creator.

I have a guide here http://www.rifftrax.com/smf/index.php?topic=1105.0 (http://www.rifftrax.com/smf/index.php?topic=1105.0)
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Blueguy on February 02, 2007, 11:50:51 PM
I've tried that method, but if I use IfoEdit, it fails and says "too many dropped frames" and if I use Rejig, it just flat out crashes near the end.
I've tried creating subs through other methods found elsewhere, and it'll author the DVD, but the subtitles don't actually work.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: SecretAgentSuperDragon on February 03, 2007, 08:47:01 AM
When I used rejig's subtitles, they popped on the screen about a second late for Daredevil, but I just said what the heck. Good enough for me. I would just try finding an sup file of the specific subtitle you want off the internet.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Shinigami on February 03, 2007, 12:07:14 PM
I've never heard about that problem.  Perhaps you could try Muxman.  That's what I've been using lately for DVD authoring and the results are quite good.  I can post a guide on it soon.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Blueguy on February 03, 2007, 10:08:04 PM
I got ifoedit to finally run through.  Took me a while to figure out why I was getting green subs.  Even after I thought I had it fixed, it's still got a green outline.  Oh well, close enough.  Rejig still crashes though.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Shinigami on February 04, 2007, 05:34:03 PM
I got ifoedit to finally run through.  Took me a while to figure out why I was getting green subs.  Even after I thought I had it fixed, it's still got a green outline.  Oh well, close enough.  Rejig still crashes though.

Should have said that's the problem, I have a ready solution to that.  The issue is that the CLUT (color lookup table) in the ifo file doesn't correspond to the colors defined in the .sup.  Finding a .sup online is not going to solve this.  I'll go ahead and post the sections from my incomplete DVD authoring guide to describe how to fix this.  I'm also including guide on using muxman.  The thing to remember is, in Subtitle Creator you can open an .ifo file.  Open the .ifo of the demux DVD.  Then you can select a color pallete you like.  EVERY COLOR PICK FOR THE SUBTITLE MUST BE UNIQUE, OTHERWISE YOU RISK SOME ERRORS.  Then you use the instructions below to replace the CLUT from the demuxed .ifo to the authored .ifo.  The result is instant correct subtitles.

Notes:

There's a free version of muxman and a pay one, I use the free one.

The CLUT varies from DVD to DVD, all you need is a .ifo that you can copy the CLUT from.  Try saving the .ifo from the ifoedit authored dvd, then load that file in Subtitle Creator every time you make a DVD.  I believe IfoEdit uses the same CLUT every time.

Guide:

Mux DVD
   Open up Muxman.  Where it says "Video" click "..." and select the .m2v file.  Under audio, add the audio streams you wish to use, in case you want to add the original audio.  The first stream will be the one to play by default.  Select the language for each stream and set the delay if there is one.  The mixed audio won't have a delay since BeLight automatically removes delay, but if you add the original audio and don't want to remove the delay with a program like DelayCut, you can add the delay here.  The delay will be specified in the filename.  Under SubPictures, add the letterbox subtitle stream you produced earlier.  Click the "LB" button and set the language.  Select the "2" radio button and then add the widescreen subtitle stream.  Click the "Wide" button and set the langauge.  If the video is Full Screen, then you only need to set a single subtitle stream.  Next, click File->Import Chapter and select the "VTS_01 - Chapter Information - IfoEdit.txt" file in your decrypted folder.  Finally, select the Destination Folder where you want the muxed DVD to be created.  Click "Start" and go take another coffee break.

Fix CLUT
      Unfortunately, the colors for your subtitles will be incorrect right after you mux it with muxman.  You can use DVDSubEdit to see what they will look like.  In order to fix the colors, you need to copy the CLUT table stored in the .ifo from the decrypted DVD to the newly muxed DVD.  To do this, open up IfoEdit and click "Open".  Select the "VTS_01_0.ifo" from the decypted DVD.  In the upper portion, expand "VTS_PGCITI" and select "VTS_PGC_1".  Click Subtitle Color->Copy Colors from this PGC.  Next, click "Open" again and this time select the "VTS_01_0.ifo" from the muxed DVD.  Again, select "VTS_PGC_1" under "VTS_PGCITI" and then click Subtitle Color->Paste Colors.  Click "Save" and when it prompts you to save the .bup, click "Yes".  You can now check the colors in DVDSubEdit.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Blueguy on February 05, 2007, 08:04:52 AM
At first they weren't showing up at all.  But with liberal uses of tinkering, I was finally able to get them to show up, in brilliant green blobs.  I eventually did figure out the CLUT thing and I got it all working correctly now.  I've done a few movies now and have my own methods.  Although Rejig still crashes for some reason while trying to author the movie, so I just use IFOEdit to do that.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: SecretAgentSuperDragon on February 05, 2007, 01:17:51 PM
If rejig is crashing, make sure everything is in NTSC format (I'm assuming your NTSC), and maybe go to settings and fiddle around with the new engine and old engine options.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: BathTub on February 07, 2007, 06:30:08 AM
I rarely alter any settings from movie to movie, a couple of times with the earlier riffs I altered the volume level of the rifftrax but I haven't felt the need to do that lately. If you feel such threads would be useful, feel free to start some.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: SecretAgentSuperDragon on February 07, 2007, 07:07:51 AM
Daredevil is one you will definitely have to normalize, then turn up the speaking parts. As far as the chapters, I had a bit of the same problem. Turns out, next to the Chapter tab in rejig, there is a pull down tab that let's you choose PAL or NTSC based on the type of DVD you have. It is automatically set on PAL, so move it to NTSC, and then try burning it. It fixed the problem for me in Battlefield Earth. Hope it helps.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Blueguy on February 07, 2007, 09:32:37 AM
So far all the disks I've made I haven't had any volume problems except LOTR.  the volume on that one was all over the place, even after normalized volume via PX3 Convert.  I used the GoldWave Voice Over plugin to help out, but it was still pretty bad overall.  There was some incredibly quiet moments, especially the very beginning, and some louder parts that nearly blocked out the rifftrack.  Hopefully LOTR is the exception as all the others so far have turned out fine with a simple level adjustment prior to the mixing step.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Tony Farms AKA Puma Man on February 09, 2007, 06:32:24 PM
YAY!  :D

I just did my first reauthor on Halloween.

Thanks to all the great tips in this thread.  It was a lot easier than I thought it would be.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: SecretAgentSuperDragon on February 09, 2007, 09:26:32 PM
Congrats.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Tony Farms AKA Puma Man on February 10, 2007, 01:21:18 PM
Congrats.

Thanks.

Your instructions were perfect.

It took me like three hours to do Halloween, but only like an hour or so to do Troll 2.  So I guess I'm getting better at it.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: fthw1385 on February 14, 2007, 02:56:22 PM
DVD decrypter has given me .99gb chunks because I did not set it to make no splits. Is there a way to undo the splits from the split files or do I have to do it all over.

I only ask because the dvd I used was my brother's. I borrowed his dvd and backed it up in the IFO mode of decrypter. I then gave it back to him because I didn't buy the rifftrax yet. So the next week, today, I followed your guide and at Step 6 I caught my mistake. That doesn't seem like a problem except that he is now in New York and I in Boston. And I won't see him again until early March. This is my first rifftrax and I'm using it to test out how many I want to get. I could buy another trax for one of the movies I have, but I figured it would be easier then doing Fellowship of the Ring. So any help would be appreciated
Thanks
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: James of LinHood on February 14, 2007, 03:04:57 PM
DVD decrypter has given me .99gb chunks because I did not set it to make no splits. Is there a way to undo the splits from the split files or do I have to do it all over.

I'm pretty sure that you can't undo the file splitting.  Even if you could, I think you'd end up with a much better quality DVD if you started over again. 
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: SecretAgentSuperDragon on February 14, 2007, 03:20:39 PM
I really don't know what to do there. You might be able to create a dvd from those chunks, and then use that newly created dvd to extract the m2v and audio as a whole. That's the only thing I can think of, short of going out and buying the film. I'm sure there are some guides on google that can help you out with that, but that's a little of a gray area for me. Sorry.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: fthw1385 on February 14, 2007, 04:43:25 PM
thanks I guess I will just have to suck it up, buy the LOTR rifftrax and make that incredibly long film my first rifftrax dvd and then eventually go back and use the one I already bought.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: BathTub on February 14, 2007, 05:40:02 PM
DVD decrypter has given me .99gb chunks because I did not set it to make no splits. Is there a way to undo the splits from the split files or do I have to do it all over.


I am sure you can probably recover from that... the easiest way I can think of is to try and point DVDShrink at it and see if it will take those files and remake an image from them.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Tony Farms AKA Puma Man on February 15, 2007, 01:08:54 PM
I'm having issues with the track from the movie being so loud it overtakes the riffs at times.

For instance, during Roadhouse, the fight scenes are accompanied by music so loud I can't hear what Mike is saying, yet everything is perfect when the music is turned down.

Do I have to reduce the track when the music is loud by hand in Audacity, or is there an easier way to do it?  ???
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: torgosPizza on February 15, 2007, 02:00:01 PM

Do I have to reduce the track when the music is loud by hand in Audacity, or is there an easier way to do it?  ???

http://www.rifftrax.com/smf/index.php?topic=583.0
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: SecretAgentSuperDragon on February 15, 2007, 02:17:53 PM
Well you can use Goldwave with it's voiceover plug-in, but it turns down the audio when the riff talks, and makes it seem more like a movie commentary rather than an mst-like riff. But in audacity, you will have to take the little bit of extra time to turn down the loud parts, but I feel that it is worth it. The Voice Over thing just sounds different and weird. See for yourself.

                  Audacity                                             
[yt=425,350]PmkpcpNLySo[/yt]             
                Goldwave VO Plugin
[yt=425,350]Rd4rxMdjtiY[/yt]
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: BathTub on February 15, 2007, 05:50:02 PM
the plug in settings can be altered to do the top one if you wanted, it's pretty flexible.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Tony Farms AKA Puma Man on February 15, 2007, 08:27:17 PM
Thanks, I'll give GoldWave a shot.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: The Tick on February 16, 2007, 05:34:00 PM
i have a problem with the rifftrax lite stuff i was able to do the whole thing with no problems but when i popped the dvd in the audio started about 2.5 sec b4 the video if someone could help me out it would be much apreciated
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: SecretAgentSuperDragon on February 16, 2007, 06:39:31 PM
That's weird. Haven't had that problem before. Was the Correct AC3 Delay tab checked?

That might be the problem. Otherwise, I don't know what to tell you. Everytime I follow either guide, they turn out fine. One question: When you first click the rejig program, all of those tabs show up. Click settings. Are you using the old engine or new engine. It should be the old engine. I don't know if new engine is a default or not, but I will make a note of it in the main post if I haven't already.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: The Tick on February 16, 2007, 06:54:30 PM
well i followed the guide to the word and for some reason it did that, i just did it again and it didn't work  so ill prolly just borrow my bros mac and use final cut or something. but i wonder if its the dvd cuz i did the same thing with lotr and it worked just fine so ill see.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Moose on February 16, 2007, 06:54:51 PM
I had the same thing with The Matrix.
It's only off by a ½ second for me though.

http://www.rifftrax.com/smf/index.php?topic=2237.0
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: SecretAgentSuperDragon on February 16, 2007, 07:02:39 PM
Check out the engine. I have never had a problem using the old engine. If it is giving you problems though, even after you choose the old engine and the AC3 delayfix, then just follow the Main guide w/ the delaycut program.

P.S.: Before you burn the DVD, click on the Video_TS folder (The one inside the DVD Files folder you have created) and find the file called VTS_01_0. If you click on that, it should launch your dvd player application, and play your movie for you, before you burn it. This way you can see if the audio is right and the chapters & subtitles are on.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: The Tick on February 16, 2007, 07:09:21 PM
ok ill try that but first ill want to get some more dvds i only have like 8 left
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Moose on February 16, 2007, 07:12:46 PM
Before you burn the DVD, click on the Video_TS folder and find the file called VTS_01_0. If you click on that, it should launch your dvd player application, and play your movie for you, before you burn it.

That's a neat little tip. I am using RWs for the test run, but this will save me 30min burning time at least.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Blueguy on February 16, 2007, 09:29:42 PM
ok ill try that but first ill want to get some more dvds i only have like 8 left

Pick up a rewritable while you're at it.  No need to waste disks.

Also, you can probably find out if the audio is synched right by running the .VOB files in a DVD player program like Power DVD after you've done the authoring.  This way you can find out what's going on before you even shrink and burn it.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Dr. Whopoopeepee on February 18, 2007, 08:08:49 AM
This was your first posting?  Holy crap! 

I had no idea how until I followed your instructions, but so far Lord of the Rings, Daredevil, and the Island of Ethan Moreau all worked perfectly.  No problems. 

Thanks for this, it really helped. :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: SecretAgentSuperDragon on February 18, 2007, 09:46:06 AM
Well, I had to make my mark. I'm glad it worked out well for you.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: invasionbmovies on February 18, 2007, 10:21:11 AM
Last night I tried to make a Troll 2 Rifftrax DVD and everything worked out fine until I got to the DVD Shrink step. Anytime I do the "Backup" step and I press OK, it says there was an error and there isn't enough room in my target. Any suggestions?
-Jason
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: invasionbmovies on February 18, 2007, 10:33:05 AM
Ah, nevermind.

I just had to delete all the Troll 2 files since they were eating up so much space.
Hope this works now!
-Jason
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: invasionbmovies on February 18, 2007, 11:23:33 AM
Ok, I'm sorry for posting three times in a row here.

But the DVD finished and I noticed two problems:
1. The rifftrax is really low and quiet while the movie soundtrack is super loud and blaring.
2. I thought I read in the guide that there would be an option to turn the rifftrax on and off so I could just watch the movie sans Rifftrax, but my DVD doesn't seem to have that option.

But otherwise, it came out ok. It's all snyched up and everything, so thanks very much for this guide.
-Jason
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: gbeenie on February 18, 2007, 11:47:17 AM
Ok, I'm sorry for posting three times in a row here.

But the DVD finished and I noticed two problems:
1. The rifftrax is really low and quiet while the movie soundtrack is super loud and blaring.
2. I thought I read in the guide that there would be an option to turn the rifftrax on and off so I could just watch the movie sans Rifftrax, but my DVD doesn't seem to have that option.

But otherwise, it came out ok. It's all snyched up and everything, so thanks very much for this guide.
-Jason

What program are you using to sync the audio?
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: BathTub on February 18, 2007, 12:01:51 PM
and did you add both audio tracks at the ifoedit stage?
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: invasionbmovies on February 18, 2007, 12:08:01 PM
Ok, I'm sorry for posting three times in a row here.

But the DVD finished and I noticed two problems:
1. The rifftrax is really low and quiet while the movie soundtrack is super loud and blaring.
2. I thought I read in the guide that there would be an option to turn the rifftrax on and off so I could just watch the movie sans Rifftrax, but my DVD doesn't seem to have that option.

But otherwise, it came out ok. It's all snyched up and everything, so thanks very much for this guide.
-Jason

What program are you using to sync the audio?
I followed the directions and used Audacity.
-Jason
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: invasionbmovies on February 18, 2007, 12:08:51 PM
and did you add both audio tracks at the ifoedit stage?
I guess not. I just added the audio track that has the Rifftrax attached to the movie's audio. I take it I was suppose to add both?
-Jason
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: SecretAgentSuperDragon on February 18, 2007, 12:53:03 PM
Sometimes with Audacity, you have to turn up the entire riff if it sounds too quiet, or just turn it up on the loud parts of the movies (i.e. yelling, explosions, etc...). If you don't want to spend the extra time doing this, you can use the program Goldwave w/ the goldwave plugin. The program isn't free (although I do believe it is a fully functional trial), but you can use it in conjuction w/ the goldwave plugin to make sure you can actually hear the riffs in the movie.

You can find a guide on how to use it at this post: http://www.rifftrax.com/smf/index.php?topic=583.0 (http://www.rifftrax.com/smf/index.php?topic=583.0)

Then you can decide if you want to use Audacity or Goldwave. I included audacity in this guide because it is a free program, (like all the other programs) and I was familiar enough with it to write a step by step guide on how to use it.

Just next time, when you go through the audacity step, go through some of the riffs in the loud parts and make sure you can hear them. If you can't, either turn down the movie audio, or turn up the rifftrax audio by highlighting and amplifying.

Hope that helps.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: BathTub on February 18, 2007, 05:06:50 PM
and did you add both audio tracks at the ifoedit stage?
I guess not. I just added the audio track that has the Rifftrax attached to the movie's audio. I take it I was suppose to add both?
-Jason

Yeah it helps. ;)

Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: leeving on February 19, 2007, 12:11:27 AM
Ok, I'm sorry for posting three times in a row here.

But the DVD finished and I noticed two problems:
1. The rifftrax is really low and quiet while the movie soundtrack is super loud and blaring.
2. I thought I read in the guide that there would be an option to turn the rifftrax on and off so I could just watch the movie sans Rifftrax, but my DVD doesn't seem to have that option.

But otherwise, it came out ok. It's all snyched up and everything, so thanks very much for this guide.
-Jason

I use audacity for all my dvd's.  When all is synced up and you want to export to wav - on the left of each track is the Gain slider.  I make the movie -3, most the time leave the riff at 0 or maybe +3.  This helps even it out during the loud movie parts.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Moose on February 19, 2007, 04:45:52 AM
I've found that pretty good Audacity settings (for Battlefield Earth at least) are...

Movie Audio - compressed at around mid level (30, 32 dB) at a ratio of 7.5:1 gives a nice even level (without going too far) and knocked up to +6 on the gain to compensate
Riff  - levels exactly as they come out of the box, so to speak.

It works for me.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: jakedietz on February 19, 2007, 08:45:45 AM
hi everyone, Im having lip sync issues with about 50% of my dvds.  There is no delay in the AC3 file everything seems fine but on Reign of Fire and The fifth Element, after I make an IFO or burn the DVD the audio is around 1 or 2 seconds off the video.  Does anyone know why?
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: MontyServo on February 23, 2007, 02:05:41 PM
I've been meaning to post my thanks to you, SecretAgentSuperDragon, for writing up the step by step guide.  Last week, I took a crack at making a re-author DVD of Star Trek 6, and it turned out perfect!  It is so much easier to just be able to pop in the re-authored DVD to watch a Rifftrax!  I'm gonna start working on the back catalog and also do each new release as they come out.

Thanks again for the most excellent guide!

 ;D
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: SecretAgentSuperDragon on February 23, 2007, 02:11:09 PM
No problem, Monty. I uuse it too, so its no big deal. ;)
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: stirrell on February 23, 2007, 11:37:19 PM
Same here, SuperDragon. I have actually been thinking about being "a switcher" (moving from a PC to a Mac) but the ease of re-authoring a Rifftrax DVD has been a factor in my decision :-). Seriously, your guide and Gamma's guide have been very helpful in re-authoring DVDs.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: eegah on February 24, 2007, 05:11:38 AM
Ok, I'm sorry for posting three times in a row here.

But the DVD finished and I noticed two problems:
1. The rifftrax is really low and quiet while the movie soundtrack is super loud and blaring.
2. I thought I read in the guide that there would be an option to turn the rifftrax on and off so I could just watch the movie sans Rifftrax, but my DVD doesn't seem to have that option.

But otherwise, it came out ok. It's all snyched up and everything, so thanks very much for this guide.
-Jason

I use audacity for all my dvd's.  When all is synced up and you want to export to wav - on the left of each track is the Gain slider.  I make the movie -3, most the time leave the riff at 0 or maybe +3.  This helps even it out during the loud movie parts.

When I use ffmpeggui instead of PX3Convert to make the decrypter movie audio audacity-friendly, I don't have to mess with the gains at all. It's worked for 3 or 4 DVDs so far.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: John Roberts on February 25, 2007, 05:46:00 AM
First of all, great guide here.  I managed to learn something from this that I have tried to learn for bloody months.  Or perhaps just ONE month.  A long enduring month. :o 

Anywho!  After going through it all, syncing it together ever so perfectly if I do say so myself (and I do), and then burned the bugger.  The problem I have now -and I apologize if this problem has already been mentioned and solved previously - is that the audio from the movie itself all static-y while the RiffTrax audio is crystal clear.  Have I... missed something, or done something so obviously wrong that it is staring right at my face and laughing?
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: eegah on February 25, 2007, 06:31:39 AM
First of all, great guide here.  I managed to learn something from this that I have tried to learn for bloody months.  Or perhaps just ONE month.  A long enduring month. :o 

Anywho!  After going through it all, syncing it together ever so perfectly if I do say so myself (and I do), and then burned the bugger.  The problem I have now -and I apologize if this problem has already been mentioned and solved previously - is that the audio from the movie itself all static-y while the RiffTrax audio is crystal clear.  Have I... missed something, or done something so obviously wrong that it is staring right at my face and laughing?

I've had PX3Convert do that to movie files. Somehow, the high volume points would get too high and introduce static. If that's what you are using, try ffmpeggui or something else instead.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: BathTub on February 25, 2007, 08:00:31 AM
yeah haven't noticed any static myself, I am still using besweet and ffmpeg, which ones are you using?
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: SecretAgentSuperDragon on February 25, 2007, 10:34:07 AM
First of all, great guide here.  I managed to learn something from this that I have tried to learn for bloody months.  Or perhaps just ONE month.  A long enduring month. :o 

Anywho!  After going through it all, syncing it together ever so perfectly if I do say so myself (and I do), and then burned the bugger.  The problem I have now -and I apologize if this problem has already been mentioned and solved previously - is that the audio from the movie itself all static-y while the RiffTrax audio is crystal clear.  Have I... missed something, or done something so obviously wrong that it is staring right at my face and laughing?

Did you have the normalize button checked? Sometimes if it isn't, or if it is amplified, it will come out crackly. Make sure you use the 2 channel audio too, if available. That will get rid of static sounds. Which movie are you trying to do?
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: John Roberts on February 26, 2007, 01:38:14 PM
Well I started it over again from the start.  Not sure what I did wrong the first time, but I DID make sure the normalizer was ticked this time through, and the finished product came out just fine and dandy.  Anywho, thank you for the fast responses. :)

The movie I was making by the way was Firewall.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Trumpy on February 27, 2007, 05:21:17 PM
Just did my first Rifftrax DVD using the "regular" method and it came out quite well. Thanks for this thread. It even worked on a movie I had to record off a movie channel!

I tried using the Lite method but ran into problems using Rejig. It would get to the end and stop without finishing the job. I had to kill it several times.

Nevermind, though, since the regular method worked so well. I'm tempted to try and unite Dark Side of the Moon and The Wizard of Oz...
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: SecretAgentSuperDragon on February 27, 2007, 07:05:21 PM
You certainly could do so, although I believe it would be easier to do with windows movie maker. You can download the Echoes/2001 sync here: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3191211059169801591&q=dark+side+of+the+moon+oz+duration%3Along (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3191211059169801591&q=dark+side+of+the+moon+oz+duration%3Along)
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: SecretAgentSuperDragon on February 27, 2007, 07:07:05 PM
As far as the whole rejig, ifoedit thing goes., I guess it depends on how your system reacts to either one. Most of the times it seems to be either rejig works and ifoedit doesn't, or vice versa. So if one doesn't work, try the other. That would be my advice to you.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Shinigami on February 27, 2007, 08:05:42 PM
Muxman is also a good option for authoring.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Gran on March 09, 2007, 05:54:40 PM
Here's a little time saver with ChapterXtractor (apologies in advance if this is old news)...

Before you open the IFO file, go to the Format tab.  Delete all the text in the Header field.  Change the format field to %f\n (that's percent eff backslash enn).  Then open the IFO file as you would normally.  The data will now be in the desired format (one column of numbers without anything else).

HTH
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: SecretAgentSuperDragon on March 09, 2007, 06:00:11 PM
Thanks for the heads up. I'll amend that to the original post.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Melvis on March 13, 2007, 01:08:38 PM
It may have taken me all day, but I finally wrapped my mind around making the Rifftrax dvds.  Great guide SecretAgentSuperDragon, even a layman such as myself was able to put this all together without too many issues.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: SecretAgentSuperDragon on March 13, 2007, 02:13:06 PM
Cool. Enjoy them.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: SecretAgentSuperDragon on March 23, 2007, 08:45:15 PM
I haven't done all the rifftrax, but I can tell you that using 2 channel audio whenever possible is the best thing you can do. The audio doesn't go really outta whack or anything like that. Only real bad ones I can remember where daredevil, LOTR, & battlefield earth, but if you run amplify the wave file by 10 db in PX3 Convert, that will usually normalize the audio when put in audacity, then you can just lower the sound levels on the left hand side.

It's usually easier than just finding every single loud part and turning it fown.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Compound on April 06, 2007, 11:50:56 AM
Okay, technical question time.

Last night I sat down and tried the Lite guide to making a DVD. After discovering that none of the 75 blank DVD-Rs that I bought will work in my burner, I finally managed to burn a disc. But unfortunately, when I went to play it, the sound started off well, but quickly began to sound as if they'd replaced the soundtrack with an audiofile of a vacumn cleaner running.

Now, I haven't cleared my temp files, so I went back and checked the wav file, and it sounds fine, with both the riffs and the movie showing up.  Is there something that I missed that might be causing the audio file to get garbled when it is burned to the disc?
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: SecretAgentSuperDragon on April 06, 2007, 05:10:34 PM
Well first off, after you dvd author it w/ rejig, don't immediately burn to dvd. Click on the folder where the files are saved to, and go to video_ts and click on the VTS_01 ifo file. This should launch your dvd player application and play the movie you authored as if it were a dvd. Then you can check and see if the audio is off before you go wasting discs.

I don't know what to say about the 75 dvd-r's. Are you sure your computer takes those and not dvd+r's?

The best advice I can give is if you have trouble with rejig, use ifoedit. If you have trouble with ifoedit, use rejig. Everybody's computer is different in that way.

Try that out. It should help.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Compound on April 08, 2007, 06:50:50 AM
Well, the DVD-R thing is just me griping about being an idiot and buying the wrong blank DVDs at the store. A quick abuse of an Officemax rewards card fixed that problem.

As for the actual audio problem, I've discovered that if I skip ahead in the video, either by hitting next chapter or by manually doing so on the computer, that's when the bad audio comes in. If I let it play normally, it sounds fine. Any idea as to what maybe causing that?
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: SecretAgentSuperDragon on April 08, 2007, 10:01:27 AM
Haven't heard of that before. Try ifoedit and see if the same problem persists.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: kylrbeez on April 11, 2007, 05:10:12 AM
im pretty new in these forums and i started to get some rifftrax here, i read about it all in wikipedia, im not worthy!!,lol you guys have like over 10 films out. i tried the "long" method of the dvd conversion with reign of fire, and it worked like a charm, the only thing i did different was i didnt use audacity. for some reason it kept on crashing and it was a pain to mute the disembaudio parts, but i used vegas video to synch up the rifftrack and movie audio, did all what the instructions said and yessssssss, first try i got it burned to a disk with original audio and the audio/riff on lang select, thank you for the great tutorial, awesome ;D ;D
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: BathTub on April 11, 2007, 05:41:06 AM
Awesome!

I need to go and brush up on subtitles now for SW ep 2

Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Qrusher14242 on April 13, 2007, 08:18:33 PM
Anyone have any problems with Willy Wonka? i got to where i am going to use ifoedit, but i put it into ifoedit and it completes it was no errors, but only the first 31 mins. Gonna try rejig.

Well damn that didnt work either. Not sure what to do, just ripped in DVD Decrypter and did it like all the others. Guess i wont be watching it tonight :( All it does is make 1 gig of vobs and 40 mins of video and then stops.

Well i re-ripped it using DVD Decrypter, but it still only creates one VOB and then stops, with no errors. Guess i'll wait until the next rifftrax to watch one. Had watched everyone until now.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Jonny Jit on April 13, 2007, 09:19:27 PM
Quote
I guess I'll throw in my method.

I use only 2 programs to make my Rifftrax DVD's, Nero 6 and DVD Decrypter.

First I pay for the DVD and the Rifftrax (I sell the DVD later)
I unzip the Rifftrax to the folder where I keep them.
I decrypt the movie to my hard drive into its own folder.

Next I start Nero 6 and use the program that converts DVD's to mpeg4.  Nero does an excellent job of identifying the main movie title, which is all you really want, filtering out menus, special features, other audio tracks. The program also reprograms the mpeg4 file to fit on a regular sized DVD.  This takes about as long as the movie plays.  I have never had a problem with the audio getting out of sync with the video using this program

Next I go to the "make movie" feature in Nero 6.  I import the unzipped Rifftrax and drop it down into the audio container.  I then play the rifftrax and pause the audio when Mike tells me to.  I then make a segment cut and delete the rifftrax intro. (Don't worry, the original rifftrax remains intact)

I then bring in the mpeg4 movie file and drop it into its container.  Using the grab feature I can adjust the audio rifftrax to sync up perfectly by shifting the audio track back and forth in its container if it is out of sync.  I adjust the movie volume to be just below the Rifftrax volume.  Nero does a good job of equalizing the volume so there are no loud or soft variations after you get the volumes to where you want them.

I then use Nero 6 to add chapters automatically, create a menu screen and then burn the DVD.

It takes a little over 4 hours to do all this if its a 2 hour movie. I am very pleased with the results

I like to use this method too.  The only challenge I have is with forced subtitles (like aliens in the Star Wars').  It's not a big deal, but would be nice to have.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Qrusher14242 on April 13, 2007, 09:26:34 PM
Ok, i just played the .mpv file i ripped from willy wonka iits just the last 45 mins of the movie?? wtf? i just select the PGC 1 which is 1:39 and rip it and turns out to be 2.8 gigs, but its only 45 mins?? but the audio is from the whole movie. I dont get this dvd at all.

Weird, never seen this before. I used DVD2One to shrink the dvd to fit onto a 4.5gb disk, but i've dont that for all of them. If i cant rip the video, guess i cant watch this rifftrax. Not sure what else to do. Can i demux in any other dvd ripper?
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: SecretAgentSuperDragon on April 13, 2007, 09:39:17 PM
Just do everything with rejig. Rip the audio, the subtitles, and the uncompressed m2v video with rejig. Then overlay your riff, then go to rejig dvd author and put everything back together. That should work.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: MrTorso on April 13, 2007, 10:17:50 PM
Ok, i just played the .mpv file i ripped from willy wonka iits just the last 45 mins of the movie?? wtf? i just select the PGC 1 which is 1:39 and rip it and turns out to be 2.8 gigs, but its only 45 mins?? but the audio is from the whole movie. I dont get this dvd at all.

Weird, never seen this before. I used DVD2One to shrink the dvd to fit onto a 4.5gb disk, but i've dont that for all of them. If i cant rip the video, guess i cant watch this rifftrax. Not sure what else to do. Can i demux in any other dvd ripper?

I had no problems ripping Willy Wonka with DVD Decrypter. You shouldn't have to shrink the DVD the movie is only 4.2 gigs.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Qrusher14242 on April 13, 2007, 11:23:04 PM
hmm the version i got was 7.2gigs
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Qrusher14242 on April 14, 2007, 12:01:22 AM
Just do everything with rejig. Rip the audio, the subtitles, and the uncompressed m2v video with rejig. Then overlay your riff, then go to rejig dvd author and put everything back together. That should work.

awesome! it worked! i ripped it in rejig and it actually ripped the whole movie thanks!  ;D gonna watch it in the morning
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: SecretAgentSuperDragon on April 14, 2007, 06:14:02 AM
Cool. Good on ya.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Troxartas on April 16, 2007, 10:24:44 AM
hello SuperDragon....i used your lite guide and created 3 perfect dvds, but 2 others had the movie audio off from the movie.  i read that sometimes rejig does this and that ifoedit works for those, but i can't really figure out how to use ifoedit.  any advice?
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: SecretAgentSuperDragon on April 16, 2007, 02:03:32 PM
It's pretty much the same template as rejig. If you follow the main guide, you should get it. My recommendation is to use delaycut on the audio if rejig seems to be messing it up if ifoedit has the same problem.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Troxartas on April 16, 2007, 02:22:54 PM
thanks SuperDragon, i decided to follow the big guide from now on because of delayfix, it worked much better afterward!
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: kylrbeez on April 25, 2007, 03:41:01 AM
willy wonka totally kicked my ass. ok, let me start from the beginning....
i ripped the dvd, chapters and everything with the big dvd rip guide, its actually easy and ive done over 10 dvd riffs with no problem, then came willy wonka :'(  after delaycut, belight, ffmpeg, and synching the riff and movie audio i start the ifoedit and as soon as it starts to render the .vob files, ifo edit crashes, grrrrrrrrr >:(  then i used the light guide which i never used before and its acutally a great tutorial aswell. i ripped the dvd and followed all the instructions with chapter extractor, rejig, now when rejig finishes the rendering and i shrink it with dvdshrink, burn it, play it, the chapters have this delay by about half a second and the wonka film looks like a cheap edited grindhouse flick,lol, any advice you can give me superdragon??? plzzzzzzzz
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: SecretAgentSuperDragon on April 25, 2007, 11:35:30 AM
First off, if you are using rejig, make sure you are using the old engine under settings. If you have trouble with that, then try switching to new engine.

Basically, when I did Wonka, I just ripped my files through dvd decrypter and had delaycut fix the audio, because rejig was messing up the audio w/ its delaycut. Then just do everything you normally do, and go to rejig(make sure you have the right engine running), and try it again.

Don't burn the dvd after its done, but go to your files and click VTS_01. This will launch your dvd player and basically show you what your dvd will look like when it's burned. That way if the chapters are screwy, or the audio is messing up, or the picture is bad, you can troubleshoot some more w/o wasting a dvd.

So go ahead and try what I said, and let me know how it works. :)
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: bluefalcon74 on April 25, 2007, 12:01:53 PM
Hey, new to the site and new to all this DVD editing stuff as well. I followed the big guide from the first post, and it did not go very well at first. In fact it took me about eight hours, but I did get some results which I will call a success. I haven't gone through all 19 pages, so some of this might have been addressed already, so forgive me.

First, I has troubles with some of the steps involved with the myriad of programs. I don't know if the versions of the programs I DL'd are different than the ones posted about, so it took me awhile to go through programs and I had to really explore some of the programs and guess on a few things. I'm not bringing these up just to nitpick, as I really did find the topic helpful, I'm just mentioning these so as to make the next guide or any revisions a bit more newb-proof for people like me.

DVD Decrypter v3.5.4.0: "to make sure your files don't split, go to options, then go to IFO options, and make sure that the tab that says file splitting is set to none"  In version 3.5.4.0 there is no options tab. You have to go to tools>settings>IFO Mode and then it's under the "options."

"Then highlight the Video and select the mux option at the bottom" There is no "mux" option, there is a "direct stream copy", "demux", and "raw" options, however. I opted for "demux" initially, even though my first reaction was that it might be the exact opposite of whatever "mux" means. (I told you, I'm a newb)

Audacity v1.2.6: This program gave me quite a headache. I know you mentioned it later in this thread, but you have to actually "stop" the soundtrack, not "pause" to be able to do anything with it. Not a big deal if you know what's going on, but the programs barebones "help" menu doesn't seem to mention that fact, and it's teeth-grindingly frustrating to spend an hour trying to figure out what the deal is with it. I also noticed that in this version, you don't have to add silence to the beginning of the Rifftrax intro that you cut, just place it accordingly before you extract it.

DVDShrink: For my first attempt at this, I had downloaded the "LOST" Rifftrax, which comes in two parts. So, when I was done with the first episode, I wanted to just save it, not burn directly to DVD, as I wanted both episodes on the same DVD. I saved it instead of backing up to disc, and when I sent the second file to the same folder, it overwrote the first fragmented the second file and basically screwed up both files. So, I cleared out the folder and used DVDShrink to send the second file to the folder again, and had to completely redo the first episode from scratch because I had deleted the parts I was done with, and the remaining files were corrupted. I then had two .msd files (or something like that, like an .iso) saved, but wasn't sure how the heck I was gonna burn them to disc. I have Daemon Tools, luckily, and loaded the .iso-like files on that, and also had a DVD program that I could load more than one drive at a time. It was hard to find a DVD burning program that would do this.

But, anyway, I did manage to eventually get what I was trying to do and I wouldn't have been able to do it without this guide. I could probably do my next Rifftrack in an hour start to finish now that I know more of the ins and outs. Thanks for the topic!
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: SecretAgentSuperDragon on April 25, 2007, 01:28:20 PM
Yeah. After you get over the initial hump, you'll be able to churn them out in no time. For Lost, I just created to seperate DVD Folders labeled lost 1 and lost 2 and authored episode 1 into one, and episode 2 in the other.

But thats what mistakes are for. You learn from 'em.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: defrostmode on April 30, 2007, 02:51:23 PM
ok I am trying to do this for the first time.. I am good with computers and think I'll get the jist of it fairly quickly, but the dvd(s) I'm wanting to decrypt have been scratched (most play fine, but I get read errors when trying decrypt or shrink them)!  is there any program that reads the info of the dvd (sort of like cddb does for cd's) except it uses that info to fill in the 'scratches' so the dvd can be decrypted correctly? I know this is just a pipe dream, but I thought it might be possible.

If not is there anywhere to download the original unaltered movie from that could then be synced (and shrunk down if need be)... I'd use what I find on torrents, but I'd hate to have to use an already shrunk dvd (which are harder to find for most movies anyhow) or worse yet, an avi!
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: SecretAgentSuperDragon on April 30, 2007, 03:35:03 PM
Most of these dvds can be bought for 5 bucks at local grocery stores, pawn shops, game stops, etcetera. I'd say just go get another copy.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: defrostmode on April 30, 2007, 03:55:01 PM
well the matrix is the first I tried and it gives me the error and I havent seen it for cheap new (I don't buy used dvd's because usually they are worse off then what I already have)... and I refuse to buy daredevil again! besides, both will play fine in my dvd player.. no skipping.. but I get read errors when trying to burn them!   Maybe I'll rent them and see if I have better luck.

I'm doing Casino Royale right now (just bought the riff and have already dycrypted the movie) on to doing the rest!
...and will try the others another day, perhaps...
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: SecretAgentSuperDragon on April 30, 2007, 04:07:08 PM
Well if my dvds get scratched beyond belief, I usually just take 'em to Walmart and ask for an exchange for another copy. They usually do it w/ no questions.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Ortega on May 01, 2007, 06:24:31 PM
all right here lies my tale of woe,

    After reading superdragons great guide to re authoring, i gave it a try with LOTR, and it was a piece of cake.  the i proceeded to do my entire catalog of rifftrax.  after about 3more(SW1, SW2, Matrix)  i hit a wall.   I tried ST6 and that where the trouble started.  there was serious audio issues with the video, the video was behind the audio.  i tried it with casino royale, and thats were i got really mad.   the weird thing is, when i made a straight backup of casinoroyale with no menus and the non-riff audio.....it turned out perfect, but the riiftrax version was off and every one I've made since then has had the same problem.   Willy wonka, star trek 6, and most recently Aeon flux.    now, I'm running a Vista PC, so I'm wondering if that has anything to do with it.   I've tried saving all the files on an external HD, and not saving anything to the C Drive, but i still have the same problem.       I'm going to trying wipe the slate clean and delete the tools and download them again, and start again.    I'm wondering if my situation is unique or if other people are having the same difficulties. 

my steps are.
1
DVD decrypter, or DVD Fabdecryptor for the ACROSS protected discs

2 delaycut

3 px3convert

4 Audacity

5 ffmepgui

6 IFO edit or rejig

7 DVD Shrink


i know i can make them, but this problem has been a chronic problem of the past 5 days now.

any help would be much appreciated
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: SecretAgentSuperDragon on May 02, 2007, 04:37:18 AM
Read this for Casino Royale: http://www.rifftrax.com/smf/index.php/topic,3247.0.html (http://www.rifftrax.com/smf/index.php/topic,3247.0.html)

and this for Star Trek VI: http://www.rifftrax.com/smf/index.php/topic,2090.0.html (http://www.rifftrax.com/smf/index.php/topic,2090.0.html)
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: bluefalcon74 on May 02, 2007, 07:31:54 AM
Ortega, make sure when you synch up the audio that you don't accidentally move the movie audio track with the time-shift tool. Synch up the Rifftrax audio with the movie like usual, but make sure the movie audio track starts at 0:00 on the timeline. It's a little thing that can cause the whole audio to be off track. I had that problem happen with a track once, and I somehow moved the track forward a second or so. Anyway, good luck.

I also have another question for Superdragon: if you run Delaycut, and the message reads that the track is off by "0ms" does that mean you don't have to fix it? I want to know if I can skip a step if it's like that.

Also, I have had some problems with getting the audio levels right, it always seems like the audio sounds fine with Audacity, but after the burn, the Rifftrack is always too loud, or rather the movie audio is too soft. I noticed the Px3convert program "normalizes" the audio track when it converts it, do you uncheck that box for better results?
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Compound on May 02, 2007, 08:06:14 AM
A nice and simple question for once.

I was constructing a DVD last night, and while on the Audacity stage, I turned up the DB as the movie track was a bit too soft. And since I did that, I then turned up the Rifftrax volume as well. Unfortunately, I think that I turned them both up a bit too much as now Kevin has an annoying reverb in his voice whenever he speaks. Can I just drop the merged wav file back into Audacity and turn it down that way, or do I need to remix the two tracks again?

After that, I just need repeat all those steps, correct? There aren't any shortcuts to just create the Audio TS, right?
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Ortega on May 02, 2007, 11:56:52 AM
i'm going to make a copy of a movie ive alreday done without the rifftrax to see if its the synching that causing the problems.....hopefully i'll get to the bottom of the problem.




EDIT :  That part worked, it seems when i go to the AC3 to Wav Conversion stage i where the problem starts.   i got my elementary streams and used delaycut on the AC3 and reauthored, and it was perfect.  But i converted it to WAV and loaded it into Audacity, but i didnt touch it, as soon as it loaded in, i exported it,then ffmepgui to get the final Ac3,  then used rejig to reauthor, and the same problem.  NO editing, no synchig, just loaded it and exported it.   im going to try goldwave to edit and see how that works(arrgh.....i hate its interface).   im just happy this was a software problem and not a hardware problem.   I havent even got to watch the Aeon flux rifftrax yet, guess i have to watch it the old fashioned way till i can correct my problem.  im wondering if its a problem with px3convert?
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Ortega on May 03, 2007, 10:53:36 AM
i stayed up unti the wee hours of the morning, but i was successful!    I used Goldwave tho edit and synch the riff, and it came out perfect.  the audio levels were a little off, but at least the video was FINALLY in synch.    a big thanks to rolypolyman's goldwave guide.   i dont know why Audacity was producing bad WAVs, even though i've made good copies before.   oh, well.....at least im finally over this wall.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: AJLeatherman on May 04, 2007, 05:39:31 PM
First of all, thanks to Super Dragon and the rest of the guys in this thread - I've been trying to figure out how to add Rifftrax audio tracks to DVDs for months now, and stumbling accross this thread has been a godsend.

One little problem I've run into (and I apologize if this has been covered, but I wasn't able to find it anywhere) - on my completed backup DVD, it's playable and the Rifftrax audio works fine, but I get JUST the movie - No menus, no bonus stuff, nothing.  You put the DVD in the player, and it goes directly to playing the movie.

Is there some simple option I'm forgetting to check off on either the ripping or burning process, or is it more involved than that?

Thanks guys.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Ortega on May 04, 2007, 05:50:41 PM
all your doing is making the movie.  if you want bonus features or menus,  after the authoring stage, if you want all the fancy bells and whistles,  take the folder that contains the authored movie and use Nero or Roxio and make a new DVD, those kind of programs have menus and all that stuff.  Personally,  i like the barebones DVD.  no fuss, no muss, just pure Rifftrax.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: bettertomorrowamy on May 15, 2007, 10:19:31 PM
I tried the mac version of mixing the RiffTrax audio with the movie and I believe it to be flawed.  What you end up with is a file that has been compressed, decompressed, compressed, and messed with so much that the video gets totally destroyed.  The problem is that you need to be using the .VOB files that get from using MacTheRipper but instead of compressing them into a .Mp4 file, use ffmpegX to DEMUX (split the digital audio file from the digital video file).  What you will get by doing this is a clean video section and a clean audio section.  The audio will be an .AC3 file that you can combine with the RiffTrax file in Audacity.  Then when you have the audio files combined and how you like them, convert the .mp3 you got in Audacity back to an .AC3 file.  Then MUX the digital audio back together with the video file you DEMUXed.  You should end up with a .VOB file that you can burn to a dvd in 10 minutes.  The video will be perfect and the audio will be perfect.  I use toast titanium 7 to burn DVD's.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: SecretAgentSuperDragon on May 16, 2007, 09:44:47 AM
Sorry to hear about the mac version. I just did the pc version, and the mods added that mac link to my post, so there really isn't anything I can do about it, except make an amendment to the first to point to this post.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: EEPiccolo on May 16, 2007, 01:31:52 PM
Has anybody tried burning their rifftraxed movies to a dual-layer disc instead of a single-layer disc, thus eliminating the need to reduce the video quality?  It'd be nice if this would work, although I've read that sometimes when you modify a backup of a DVD (in our case, adding the rifftrax) the new DVD will die at the layer change (about halfway through the movie).  Can anyone confirm or deny this, or give any tips on burning to a dual-layer disc?
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: SecretAgentSuperDragon on May 16, 2007, 06:35:32 PM
My burner is dual-layer capable, but I have never found a reason to use a 2 layer discs. I often compare the shrunken movies to the originals, and you know what, on my 57" HD Screen, I can't tell a single difference. That's why I just get 100 packs of DVD-Rs for $20.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: EEPiccolo on May 16, 2007, 06:59:18 PM
Yeah, I've got tons of blank single-layer DVDs.  But I also have a few dual-layers, so if there was some hope of success, I wanted to try it.  And if no one else has tried, perhaps I'll be the first........

The big question in my mind is when you create the DL DVD, where does the split go?  I've noticed in commercial DVDs they put the split between chapters, hopefully in an inconspicuous place since there's a noticeable pause.  But if you're burning your own, does the software let you adjust where the split goes?  Or if you've got a DVD image, is the location of the split part of the image?
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: SecretAgentSuperDragon on May 16, 2007, 09:49:49 PM
The Split? I don't believe there is a split for DL DVDs. Just burn it using no compression in DVD Shrink. Either that, or burn it w/ DVD fab decrypter in the DVD9 setting.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: MrTorso on May 17, 2007, 02:12:11 AM
If you are taking the DVD down to the elementary streams (m2v and ac3) and then building your own DVDs (with or without menus) then making DL discs shouldn't be a problem. If you are editing your IFOs and your BUPs and what all then you might run into problems. All the DVD software I have used (DVD LAB and ENCORE) have settings to assign the layer break or to have the program do it for you.

Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: dr9553 on May 17, 2007, 01:05:05 PM
I tried the mac version of mixing the RiffTrax audio with the movie and I believe it to be flawed.  What you end up with is a file that has been compressed, decompressed, compressed, and messed with so much that the video gets totally destroyed.  The problem is that you need to be using the .VOB files that get from using MacTheRipper but instead of compressing them into a .Mp4 file, use ffmpegX to DEMUX (split the digital audio file from the digital video file).  What you will get by doing this is a clean video section and a clean audio section.  The audio will be an .AC3 file that you can combine with the RiffTrax file in Audacity.  Then when you have the audio files combined and how you like them, convert the .mp3 you got in Audacity back to an .AC3 file.  Then MUX the digital audio back together with the video file you DEMUXed.  You should end up with a .VOB file that you can burn to a dvd in 10 minutes.  The video will be perfect and the audio will be perfect.  I use toast titanium 7 to burn DVD's.

A simpler way to do this is to DEMUX the streams with MacTheRipper in the first place. To do that all you have to do is:

1. click on the Modes tab and select Title - Chapter Extraction from the drop down menu.
2. Check the Demux box
3. Select the Audio Tracks you want along with the video track and click GO!

The only other thing I like to do is convert the MP3 rifftrax file to a 16-bit Stereo 48kHz WAV file to make sure it is going to sync up with the movies audio.

If anyone would like a more in depth guide on using some non free programs to recreate the original DVD with customized rifftrax branded menus and what not just send me a pm and i will put one together.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: bettertomorrowamy on May 17, 2007, 03:08:37 PM
Cool!!  Thanks for the assistance!
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: AJLeatherman on May 20, 2007, 10:08:50 AM
I've been using DL DVDs for some of the bigger sized movies, and I haven't had any problems.  For making Rifftrax DVDs, I've been using the software in the guide (DVD Encrypter, etc.), and for straight backup purposes I've used either CloneDVD2, Nero, or DVDLab, depending on certain DVDs having trouble burning with some programs, and I've never had a problem with using DL.

Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: EEPiccolo on May 21, 2007, 09:46:59 AM
Thanks for the info, AJLeatherman!
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: dr9553 on May 25, 2007, 07:13:38 AM
I have posted a little guide for the mac users on how to make a lossless version of the movie, with no menus.

http://www.quickstream.tv/rifftrax/

can you please post this in the first post under the first link.

I am also going to be working on a guide on making a DVD with menus that will pick up where this guide leaves off.

Donald
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: RVR II on May 25, 2007, 08:11:25 AM
I also have mastered the art of creating the DVD with the Rifftrax applied to the movie as well by using DVD Shrink 3.2, or for those 'stubborn' ones; a legally purchased version of Magic DVD Ripper. I then capture the backed up movie through Pinnacle Studio 9. When the capture is completed, I then edit it by adding the Rifftrax MP3 file to it, line up the audio track with Disembaudio's help, and make the two onto 1 disc!
Note: The Rifftrax audio can be increased or decreased as well to get the best result of enjoyability BEFORE the Final stage of making the New DVD!
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: SecretAgentSuperDragon on May 25, 2007, 08:46:12 AM
Fun
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: bettertomorrowamy on May 25, 2007, 03:40:04 PM
I have posted a little guide for the mac users on how to make a lossless version of the movie, with no menus.

http://www.quickstream.tv/rifftrax/

can you please post this in the first post under the first link.

I am also going to be working on a guide on making a DVD with menus that will pick up where this guide leaves off.

Donald

Yep!  This is what I do.  It works great.
Great tutorial!
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: bettertomorrowamy on May 27, 2007, 03:22:09 PM
I have posted a little guide for the mac users on how to make a lossless version of the movie, with no menus.

http://www.quickstream.tv/rifftrax/

can you please post this in the first post under the first link.

I am also going to be working on a guide on making a DVD with menus that will pick up where this guide leaves off.

Donald

Is there a way of creating chapters after you have recombined the rifftrax commentary with the original soundtrack and the video?
Can you name your audio streams so when you play the eventual dvd with your dvd player it shows:  Audiotrack 1 = Rifftrax Commentary, Audiotrack 2 = Dolby 5.1, etc...  ?  When I mux the video and audio with ffmpegx I put back the original audiotrack of the movie as a seperate audio track along with the seperate RiffTrax audiotrack mix, but I can't name it.  This is small thing but kind of annoying.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: dr9553 on May 28, 2007, 08:51:53 PM
im not sure how to rename it so it says Rifftrax or Dolby 5.1, i will look into it.  As far as chapters goes i think that is a feature that may be coming in the next versions of ffmpegx.  but i will look into that also. Another guide will be coming using the following NOT free apps:
DVD Studio Pro
Final Cut Pro
Cinematize Pro

These are the apps i use to create a dvd with menus and what not.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: SharpMonkey on June 19, 2007, 03:51:22 PM
Many thanks to SecretAgentSuperDragon for his wonderful guide.  Also thanks to those of you who posted additional info that's been used to update the guide. 

I relied upon the in-depth guide (not Lite) and I found it to be straightforward and easy to use.  Lord of the Rings was my first effort and the initial burn was sadly botched by a lack of subtitles or chapters, but the video and sound quality are spot-on!   Thankfully I found the steps I missed in IfoEdit and am prepping the final version as I write this.  If everything checks out then more projects are sure to follow.  I'm pleased that I was able to get this far even though I've never used a single program that your guide referred to.  Nice work!

Thanks a million!  Video editing has always intimidated me, until now...  MWA HA HA! 
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Ortega on June 19, 2007, 08:47:02 PM
yes....come join the dark side of Rifftrax.....re-authoring >:D
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: eclipt1c on June 19, 2007, 09:46:08 PM
Edit: Nevermind, found what I needed.  Thanks again to SuperDragon
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: myspace.com/thejobot on June 21, 2007, 07:43:45 PM
I'm gonna try this sometime if only to eliminate the embarassment of having Crossroads on DVD  ;D
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: SharpMonkey on June 23, 2007, 12:08:35 PM
I have successfully used the main guide to re-author a Rifftrax DVD of Fantastic 4.  Here are my findings:


Thanks again to SuperDragon for teaching a man to fish! 
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: SecretAgentSuperDragon on June 23, 2007, 12:29:22 PM
No problem guys. I feel like making an amendment to the main post as far as the wav converting is concerned. As far as PX3Convert is concerned, it is very simple to use, but may not always produce the result you want as ffar as hi parts and low parts go in the movie.

Something a little more advance that I like to use is Belight audio converter. It's hard to know how to set it up, because you have to download besweet, then you have to download the belight GUI and extract it into precisely the right folder. But after that basic part is done, it goes pretty easy.

Basically, when I convert to wav with that, it makes sure all the audio stays around a certain decibel level with no high parts. I've been using them for the past 10 or so rifftrax, and they've been a snap to put together. All I really do is convert the movies audio, stick the audio and rifftrax into audactity, raise the rifftrax audio level to +3 db, match up the sync lines and export. You can hear the riff perfectly, and you can also hear the movie audio really well too, but I find it helps to author with subtitles so you can understand the riffs during the more quiet parts of the movie's cruddy dialogue.

But if you feel like you could handle something more advance than PX3Convert, go ahead and get belight and besweet. They're both free, and just follow the instructions on how to use them. Be sure Dynamic compression is normal, and check its box.
 :)
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Ortega on June 23, 2007, 08:33:47 PM
yeah, i made the switch to belight, plus it can convert back to AC3 too. ;D
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: SharpMonkey on June 23, 2007, 10:33:30 PM
I like the idea of less intensive audio editing, so I've decided to give the BeLight method a try for my next Rifftrax project.  :)

just follow the instructions on how to use them. Be sure Dynamic compression is normal, and check its box.

Is there anything I need to do in the BeLight interface other than that?  Is it as simple as load in the .AC3, select the tab marked WAV and press the "Start Processing" button?  Here's what the settings look like for me: 

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v407/sharpmonkey/belight.gif)
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Ortega on June 23, 2007, 10:45:56 PM
just prest the green button, and BAM!, wav file.

after you're done mixing, load the finished wav file, and check the Ac3 tab, and BAM!, your final ac3 file, no ffmpeg necessary....

BAM!
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: SharpMonkey on June 23, 2007, 10:58:43 PM
Right on.  Thanks for the info.  Take it easy on the spice-weasel, though!  ;D
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: SecretAgentSuperDragon on June 23, 2007, 11:02:13 PM
Actually check Boost Mode: LigH as well. Then, yeah, that's pretty much all.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: SecretAgentSuperDragon on June 30, 2007, 09:23:09 AM
Guide now modified for Belight instructions.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Minnesota on June 30, 2007, 09:39:06 AM
just prest the green button, and BAM!, wav file.

after you're done mixing, load the finished wav file, and check the Ac3 tab, and BAM!, your final ac3 file, no ffmpeg necessary....

BAM!
Right on.  Thanks for the info.  Take it easy on the spice-weasel, though!  ;D

Nice  :D
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: SharpMonkey on July 01, 2007, 08:25:32 AM
Thanks for adding the BeLight info, SuperDragon.  This guide just gets better and better. 

I've been having trouble finding a reliable method for extracting subtitles that can be successfully authored with IFOedit.  There are scattered references to subtitles in the forums, but the ones I found call for authoring with DVDlab pro or something called Muxman.  I'm getting pretty comfortable with the SuperDragon method, so I guess what I'm really asking for is advice on how to conquer subs without deviating from this guide too much.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: BathTub on July 01, 2007, 08:40:45 AM
Ugh subs, yes I still haven't got these down, was going to redo xXx and that has a little, might be a good test case.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: SecretAgentSuperDragon on July 01, 2007, 09:37:17 AM
Usually, if you run your audio/video extracting through Rejig, you can extract the subtitles in the Rejig friendly & IFOedit friendly .sup format. But sometimes, rejig can be a little unreliable for that. Take for instance Star Trek Generations. I tried to rip the subs using rejig, but they were about 30 seconds off from the audio cues. So if rejig doesn't work, I usually use PGC_Demux and extract the english sup subtitles from there. Usually there will be 2 choices for english subtitles. 1 of them will work, and one of them won't but you won't be able to tell, so just Re-author with both subtitles selected. Then upon viewing the mock-up dvd by clicking the newly created vts_01 file and seeing which subtitle works, then you can disable the other subtitle in DVDShrink.

This 2nd case rarely happens. It's only happened to me twice. Or you may get the screwy "Neither works" option, which is where I'm at with Star Trek Generations. So if anyone has an sup file of the english subtitles for Generations, I would appreciate it.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: SharpMonkey on July 02, 2007, 09:48:47 PM
To SecretAgentSuperDragon:
Hrm. Well I tried using ReJig for extraction on my last effort and I got repeated crashes during the authoring phase.  These crashes occurred only when I included the .sup file, and they happened regardless of whether I authored with ifoEdit or ReJig.  I will trash those files and start over from scratch in the hopes that my last effort was flawed by some inappropriate muxing (or possibly de-muxing!) on my part.  I'll put some time in on this soon and post my results.  Thanks for replies and advice!  ;D

To Bathtub:
I sympathize with your frustration.   I just want the subs so I can use a heavier hand when lowering movie audio and so dialog that's riffed over will still be discernible.   Once I'm comfortable doing subs, then all will tremble before my unstoppable army of robot atomic super-zombies riffrax dvd library.   ::)

Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Godzuki on July 02, 2007, 10:33:51 PM
Hello new to the boards..just wanted to thank Super for the great guide.  Also, was wondering what steps do I need to do to
convert the rifftrax/movie audio from wav to ac3 in Beelight?  Any particular choices or just fire away.

Thanks again
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: SecretAgentSuperDragon on July 03, 2007, 01:46:55 PM
Just use ffmpeggui. It works just fine.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: SharpMonkey on July 04, 2007, 05:20:32 PM
Usually, if you run your audio/video extracting through Rejig, you can extract the subtitles in the Rejig friendly & IFOedit friendly .sup format. But sometimes, rejig can be a little unreliable for that. Take for instance Star Trek Generations. I tried to rip the subs using rejig, but they were about 30 seconds off from the audio cues. So if rejig doesn't work, I usually use PGC_Demux and extract the english sup subtitles from there. Usually there will be 2 choices for english subtitles. 1 of them will work, and one of them won't but you won't be able to tell, so just Re-author with both subtitles selected. Then upon viewing the mock-up dvd by clicking the newly created vts_01 file and seeing which subtitle works, then you can disable the other subtitle in DVDShrink.

Sorry about the long post.  I've been at this same conversion project for quite a while and need help...

This time I used the Lite Guide to create a Rifftrax DVD of Island of Dr. Moreau. I followed the guide to the letter except that I mixed the audio using Goldwave & the Voice plugin.  The problem is ReJig or IFOedit has crashed during every authoring attmept I've made which includes subtitles.  Here's what I tried:


I also tried authoring w/ ReJig and not including subtitles.  This worked fine.  There was an audio sync problem, but I'm pretty sure that's related to ReJig's auto-delay correction because I re-ripped with DVDdecryptor and followed the Main Guide to produce a perfect Rifftrax DVD...without subtitles.

Any advice would be appreciated. 
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: leeving on July 04, 2007, 11:56:09 PM
Rejig  has always crashed on me when I select the VTS_01_0.IFO for the original subtitles color, so they are a nice ugly , thick green that you can't really read.   I still haven't found a nice and easy way to get subs to work, except once and I don't really remember how I did it.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: ambitiously stupid on July 09, 2007, 03:19:09 PM
I have been using Super Dragon's guide (non-lite) version with Gammer's goldwave guide with much success.  However, recently after I burn the DVD and play it on my DVD player the disc's freeze up at about the 1 hour mark.  This has happened on two out of the last 3 I have made.   I have tried the discs on several different DVD players with the same result.  Also, the discs are not scratched.  Anyone have an idea of what is going on?
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: bettertomorrowamy on July 09, 2007, 03:26:33 PM
After it freezes up does it resume playing?  Or stay frozen?
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: ambitiously stupid on July 09, 2007, 03:43:43 PM
It kind of sputters for a while then completley freezes.  And I am using the same brand DVD+Rs that I was using before
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: bettertomorrowamy on July 09, 2007, 04:00:07 PM
Does the file play ok before you burn it to disc?  What program are you using to burn the file to a dvd?
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: ambitiously stupid on July 09, 2007, 04:10:40 PM
It seems to play fine in DVD shrink preview window.  Of course I don't play it that long in the preview window to see what it does around the 1 hour mark.  The DVD shrink uses DVD decrypter to burn the disc.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: bettertomorrowamy on July 09, 2007, 04:20:15 PM
I always watch the file itself on my computer to make sure that it was a good mix, then I burn it.

I'm running a Macbook with Parallels so I can use DVD Fab to rip the discs.

I use Audacity for the audio mixing.  You can manually adjust the sound with the Effects in the menu bar.

Then I use ffmpeg for the Muxing.

Then I burn it with toast, so I don't know if I can help you.
I would try watching the file first before you burn it to determine whether it is the burning program or the file itself.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: ambitiously stupid on July 09, 2007, 05:13:32 PM
Thanks for your input.  This really is annoying.  I was half way through predator and point break with a group of friends and both discs crashed.   But I'm sure some where deep inside they were glad the misery had ended.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: King Rygar on July 10, 2007, 11:47:41 AM
Dear sirs,

I seem to be having trouble. Dunno why, I've done this before! For some reason, when I "Decrypt using DVD Decrypter", I'm not getting an AC3 file. I get an M2V file, a VOB File, and an IFO file. In decrypter I am using IFO mode, with the Demux box checked. Just like it says in the guide. What am I doing wrong? HELP  :speechless: :scared:
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: BathTub on July 10, 2007, 01:25:48 PM
do you have an audio stream checked? usually first box under the video stream.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: King Rygar on July 10, 2007, 02:08:35 PM
Yes I have the 2ch English and 6ch English selected. Still no dice. I don't get it1  :angry:
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: bettertomorrowamy on July 10, 2007, 04:29:10 PM
Have you restarted your computer recently?

Are you in Europe?

Have you turned your Garth Brooks CD to the appropriate degree?
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: RVR II on July 10, 2007, 04:30:26 PM
That's the Problem..
TAKE OUT THAT GOT-DANG GARTH BROOKS CD!!!
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Douglin on July 10, 2007, 04:46:07 PM
Which movie is it? (not really important but I'm interested)

1: make sure that the m2v file is complete, if it's not then rejig could be giving up ripping partway though because of a problem with the disc.

2: Try cleaning the disc.  If it's got any major scratches that could be your problem, if you can, use rubbing alcohol, or warm water, and a cloth and rub in an outward fashion, hub to edge.  If there's a really obvious scratch you can try using toothpaste to buff the scratch out (no, I'm not insane  (http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=toothpaste+dvd+clean))

If the m2v file is complete then you could try using the full guide or using DVD decrypter in IFO mode to get the files.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Ortega on July 10, 2007, 08:32:28 PM
make sure you also set up  ifo options in dvd decrypter to File splitting:None.  i experienced the same problem when i didnt do that.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: King Rygar on July 11, 2007, 06:48:20 AM
Hey guys, the movie is Generations. The disc is in perfect shape! Not a blemish to be seen!

I have made sure that File Splitting is set to none, etc, everything set exactly as should be?

I will try a different movie this time, see if that helps..... :grr:

Thanks though!
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: bettertomorrowamy on July 11, 2007, 01:05:06 PM
If all else fails, burn your house down.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: oorat on July 12, 2007, 08:57:09 PM
I've followed the instructions and got a working copy of star trek 7, so I know I did that one right.  But I'm having issues with lotr.  I have the single disc copy of the film. I follow the instructions to the letter. for riff, I used acid music to join the 2 parts of the lotr riff, and then got everything synched up just fine in audacity.  But when  I reach the final step with dvd shrink to burn it,  the dvd is too large to burn on a disc.  It's just barely larger then the dvd-r size.  anyone know of a way of shrinking it down anymore to get it to fit?
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: bettertomorrowamy on July 13, 2007, 10:00:16 AM
dvd shrink, toast, etc.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: SecretAgentSuperDragon on July 13, 2007, 10:33:08 AM
I've followed the instructions and got a working copy of star trek 7, so I know I did that one right.  But I'm having issues with lotr.  I have the single disc copy of the film. I follow the instructions to the letter. for riff, I used acid music to join the 2 parts of the lotr riff, and then got everything synched up just fine in audacity.  But when  I reach the final step with dvd shrink to burn it,  the dvd is too large to burn on a disc.  It's just barely larger then the dvd-r size.  anyone know of a way of shrinking it down anymore to get it to fit?

So you tried shrinking it down, and it wouldn't compress enough to fit on a disc? When stuff like that happens, what I do is I go ahead and create the iso file, but I do not burn it with dvd decrypter. Then, you use an imagedrive to mount the iso to make it seem like the dvd's in your drive(It'll probably give you a fake drive e:/ or f:/). I use Nero's image drive for this, which I'm pretty sure you can pick up a free copy of Nero 6 now, just google it.

Anyway, after you mount the iso to an image drive, go back to DVDshrink, and shrink that dvd down to size. That way it will compress even more and fit onto a regular sized dvd, then create the iso file and burn it with dvddecypter. That should work for you.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: King Rygar on July 13, 2007, 11:15:25 AM
Ok guys, I got it working! I got a good mix using the BeLight mentioned above, and it worked out great!

BUT, the disc stutters in my PC dvd player. It played fine in the XBox 360! Any ideas?
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: oorat on July 13, 2007, 11:38:54 AM
I've followed the instructions and got a working copy of star trek 7, so I know I did that one right.  But I'm having issues with lotr.  I have the single disc copy of the film. I follow the instructions to the letter. for riff, I used acid music to join the 2 parts of the lotr riff, and then got everything synched up just fine in audacity.  But when  I reach the final step with dvd shrink to burn it,  the dvd is too large to burn on a disc.  It's just barely larger then the dvd-r size.  anyone know of a way of shrinking it down anymore to get it to fit?

So you tried shrinking it down, and it wouldn't compress enough to fit on a disc? When stuff like that happens, what I do is I go ahead and create the iso file, but I do not burn it with dvd decrypter. Then, you use an imagedrive to mount the iso to make it seem like the dvd's in your drive(It'll probably give you a fake drive e:/ or f:/). I use Nero's image drive for this, which I'm pretty sure you can pick up a free copy of Nero 6 now, just google it.

Anyway, after you mount the iso to an image drive, go back to DVDshrink, and shrink that dvd down to size. That way it will compress even more and fit onto a regular sized dvd, then create the iso file and burn it with dvddecypter. That should work for you.

Thank you,  I'm at work right now, once I get home I'll try that.  I use poweriso , but hadn't considered the method you suggest.    But with the file size, dvd shrink took it down to 4.77 gig, just above the max size of my dvd-r's.    But like I said I'll try what you said when I get home and hopefully it works.  Thanks again.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: King Rygar on July 13, 2007, 03:34:33 PM
What program would I use to make an mpeg out of the .m2v and .ac3 files I already have polished up for DVD's? I'd like to be able to watch these on my computer as mpeg since the dvd's are stuttering in my pc player for some reason.....
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: bettertomorrowamy on July 13, 2007, 03:38:32 PM
Use ffmpeg to mux the two together as a .mpg file.

I like to keep them as .mpg's on my external harddrive.  They are in a fast format to burn to disc then too.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: King Rygar on July 13, 2007, 04:53:23 PM
what command line do you use with FFmpeg. I can't make sense of that program.... :speechless:
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: bettertomorrowamy on July 13, 2007, 05:14:28 PM
I'm using the mac version, but I think the windows version is the same:

Click TOOLS

Click the MUX button and enter in the .M2V as the video and the other as your audio.  Also, if you want, you can but the original AC3 from the movie as the second audio track in case you want to watch the movie without the commentary. 

Select the multiplexing options.  I set it to mux as DVD and Author as a DVD_TS, but I think you can just set it to mux as a DVD and uncheck the other boxes if you want it just as a .mpg file.  Otherwise it makes a .mpg and a DVD_TS file.  Either file will play in the VLC Player.

Now hit MUX at the bottom and wait (not very long).
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: SecretAgentSuperDragon on July 13, 2007, 08:36:41 PM
Which ffmpeg are you talking about, cause the one in this guide just does audio. A good mpeg muxer is TMPGEnc. You can download the free version I've hosted here: http://www.uploading.com/en/files/VGNGQIFY/TMPGEnc_2.524.63.181_Free_200707132014.zip.html
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: bettertomorrowamy on July 13, 2007, 09:06:33 PM
I'm using the mac version,
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: SecretAgentSuperDragon on July 14, 2007, 12:48:07 AM
, but I think the windows version is the same:

Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: gbeenie on July 14, 2007, 02:05:16 PM
what command line do you use with FFmpeg. I can't make sense of that program.... :speechless:

Unless you're a command-line wonk, you should probably make sure you also get ffmpegGUI, which makes the whole thing much simpler to use.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: bettertomorrowamy on July 14, 2007, 02:31:31 PM
Yeah, I was assuming he was using the GUI version.  Maybe I'm wrong and only the Mac version can MUX the audio with the video.  That would be weird.  Nobody uses ffmpeg to MUX their re-authors?  It works good for me on my Mac.  Fast too since it's unix based.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: King Rygar on July 15, 2007, 11:25:52 AM
Hiya, yes, I am using FFmpegGUI for Windows, and there is no place to input video to be muxed. Only enough control to convert an audio file???

Also, these discs I'm making stutter in my PC but nothing else. Anyone else experience this before?

Thanks for your time guys!
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: oorat on July 15, 2007, 12:25:58 PM
Well, I finally got LOTR to work.  Interesting thing is, I had to redo it from the start, the sound on it was all messed up.  Both times of doing the process, ffmepg wouldn't open the lotr files, so I had to switch to rejig, and that worked fine.  And the 2nd time through it the sound worked fine and dvd shrink decided it was going to work for me this time, and it all worked just fine. 
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: bettertomorrowamy on July 15, 2007, 12:49:01 PM
Oh, better buy a mac.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: oorat on July 17, 2007, 03:05:43 PM
If I want to silence Disembaudio,   do I just have to go through the entire riff and listen for his cues, or is there a rough estimate of when he pops up, like every 10 to 20 minutes or so, give or take?
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: SecretAgentSuperDragon on July 17, 2007, 03:19:05 PM
rifftrax readme file. You get them if you download the riffs at rifftrax.com
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: oorat on July 17, 2007, 05:33:53 PM
Ok, kool, thanks.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: wasteofspace on July 29, 2007, 05:26:14 PM
The guide is perfect........but if you want to take it one step further [and have access to the program] :

I used BeLight to separate the .ac3 into 6 separate mono WAVs....and imported into Sony's Acid Pro w/ a Dolby Digital 5.1 encoder plugin.

I was then able to add the RiffTrax file, along with the 6 other tracks you hear with a surround sound system, and edit them accordingly.  i.e. left, right, center, rear left, rear right, and the subwoofer.

I placed the RiffTrax in the center AND the two rear speakers and exported as an .ac3.

Now it's like Mike is in the room with me, and I can hear the orignal audio of the movie as intended!!!    .....works great for the action movies, at least!!

.....Please note that the Acid Pro software is NOT freeware, so you have to pay for it......but if you have any musician friends or something it's possible they  may be able to help you out.

Just thought I would brag a little!
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: MysSci3k on August 03, 2007, 10:12:19 PM
hello all, i hope im not asking a quest that has been answered but everytime i rip the video file, in either dvd decrypter or rejig it stops at around the 4.29 Gb. the file can be played but the video is incomplete. the audio rips fine. if set it to rip the video in pieces, it rips all the video. it took me 3 dvds to realize that it had done this to me. xmen cut off at xavier and magneto playing chess, so i made it most of the way through, but predator cut out around the hour mark. this is very frustrating having now tried to rip both dvds around 5 different times. any advise will be assimilated

Mys
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Ortega on August 03, 2007, 10:34:44 PM
Check your IFO options in DVD Decrypter.  Look at the box called Filesplitting and set the options to : None.  This should give you One M2V(video) file.  If that dosent work, check your DVD and make sure it isn't scratched.  Sometimes my scratched DVDs sometimes get screwed up when i rip them....hope this helps....
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: MysSci3k on August 04, 2007, 05:46:43 AM
nope....the only way i can rip a full video is if i rip the vob files. i ripped in just about every mode on rejig and dvd decrypter. it stops ripping video at around 4.2 Gb, whether i have it break the file or not. i am not liking this prob at at
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: SecretAgentSuperDragon on August 04, 2007, 09:58:55 AM
Have you tried it with just 1 dvd? If so, try it with another one and see what happens. For dvd decrypter, you shoulding be ripping in ifo mode with the main video and audio file getting ripped, not the vob files.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Douglin on August 04, 2007, 10:06:13 AM
Do you have enough free space on your hard drive? I don't really know any other reason that 2 different discs would stop after taking up the same amount of space.

Something I've done a couple times is using Decrypter to make a copy of the disc on the hard drive then use rejig on the that copy, it may help a bit
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: MysSci3k on August 04, 2007, 09:12:01 PM
i think this is a computer problem. i have over 35 Gigs available and no matter what i do it wont let me rip a dvd, make an iso of the dvd, essentially make a single file over 4.3 Gigs. i tried to make an iso so i could use that to make my dvd, but it stopped at 4.3 Gigs as well. DVD Decrypter even says that there is 29 Gigs left.......i went over to my brothers house to try it there and it worked flawlessly.....i feel so alone... ???
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: MysSci3k on August 04, 2007, 10:31:45 PM
EUREKA!!! i did a little research on the net and found out the prob. for whatever reason, my file system was still FAT32!! for those of you keeping track at home, FAT32 doesnt allow single files over 4 Gigs. i converted it over to NTFS and everything works great. i'm as giddy as a school girl  ;D
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: k1 on August 08, 2007, 06:31:55 AM
From Apple.com

New iLife for Mac:

iMovie supports standard and high definition video, as well as the most popular formats, including DV, HDV, MPEG-2, MPEG-4 and even AVCHD.

iDVD also now has "Pro Quality Encoding": Maintain higher quality with more of your movies and slideshows on a single DVD.

Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: BathTub on August 08, 2007, 01:10:17 PM
Ok this is getting frustratingly close, using Rejig I got the sup files, and I rebuilt Bourne with IFOedit so the subs are there but look ass! Amazing!

So I used the instructions in the first post to rebuild it with Rejig as well to get the right color, but when I hit create it makes a few kbs worth of files then just stops. does this sound like something obvious? Not a space issue.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: bettertomorrowamy on August 08, 2007, 02:36:56 PM
From Apple.com

New iLife for Mac:

iMovie supports standard and high definition video, as well as the most popular formats, including DV, HDV, MPEG-2, MPEG-4 and even AVCHD.

iDVD also now has "Pro Quality Encoding": Maintain higher quality with more of your movies and slideshows on a single DVD.



So does this mean that iMovie doesn't compress the file and then uncompress it, because that's why the video looks like shit when you try to use it.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: leeving on August 09, 2007, 12:37:58 AM
Ok this is getting frustratingly close, using Rejig I got the sup files, and I rebuilt Bourne with IFOedit so the subs are there but look ass! Amazing!

So I used the instructions in the first post to rebuild it with Rejig as well to get the right color, but when I hit create it makes a few kbs worth of files then just stops. does this sound like something obvious? Not a space issue.


i used rejig to rip the subs, but used dvd decrypter to grab the ifo file....then used rejig to author it....worked great...but the subs are for the hearing impaired too, so a lot of [wind blowing] type stuff.

just be sure to rip the right ifo file for the movie...for bourne it's VTS_01_0.IFO
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: BathTub on August 09, 2007, 02:06:34 AM
yeah been using that, it makes the big temporary mux file, then starts on the directory tree and just finishes without making the vobs, I thought it might have been a space issue, so I made more room but it did the same thing again.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: k1 on August 09, 2007, 07:00:28 AM

So does this mean that iMovie doesn't compress the file and then uncompress it, because that's why the video looks like shit when you try to use it.

I really hope so!  The one reason I enjoy using iMovie for the reauthors is I can watch the movie with the Rifftrax while I reauthor.  I'm trying to decide if I want to upgrade my Powerbook or if I want to just blow my bank on a new 8 core Pro...

Actually I know what I want but it's more a decision on if I like to pay my mortgage and feed my family.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: k1 on August 10, 2007, 07:30:36 AM
Interesting comments on iMovie 08 under this review

http://www.tuaw.com/2007/08/08/imovie-08-lacks-support-for-plug-ins/

Lots of people aren't too happy with it if you do a quick Google search you will see what I mean.

No themes, no chapter markers, no time line editing...

Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: bettertomorrowamy on August 10, 2007, 02:36:47 PM
What sucks is that you don't get iLife for free if you have a .mac account.

Although it is nice to have 10 gb of iDisk space.

If I had a bigger harddrive I would install my Final Cut Pro and use that to make my re-authors.

Final Cut Pro is a resource hogging mother.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: tmat311 on August 14, 2007, 08:35:53 AM
I figure someone might find this useful: Guide to Creating a Rifftrax AVI (http://www.scribd.com/doc/243335/Guide-To-Creating-a-Rifftrax-AVI).

I usually just rip my DVDs to my hard drive as XviDs, then put the DVDs in storage... and this is a fairly simple (though time consuming) way of addinf the Riffs to the AVI files.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: bettertomorrowamy on August 18, 2007, 10:15:27 PM
From Apple.com

New iLife for Mac:

iMovie supports standard and high definition video, as well as the most popular formats, including DV, HDV, MPEG-2, MPEG-4 and even AVCHD.

iDVD also now has "Pro Quality Encoding": Maintain higher quality with more of your movies and slideshows on a single DVD.



This article may change your mind:  http://pogue.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/08/17/apple-takes-a-step-back-with-imovie-08/index.html?hp (http://pogue.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/08/17/apple-takes-a-step-back-with-imovie-08/index.html?hp)
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: k1 on August 19, 2007, 06:37:57 AM
Yeah it would have if I hadn't already tried it out in the Apple store and walked away disgusted.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Compound on August 19, 2007, 09:00:48 PM
Arrrgh.

Okay, after months of work, I'm down to my last disc to recompile. It's Top Gun, and for some unexplained reason, the mpeg file is exactly 1/2 hour too short. It reads 1:49 in DVD decrypt, and 1:19 on the hard drive.Any ideas here? Bizarrely enough, the audio file is the right length (which I discovered when the Rifftrax cut off in mid-sentence as I was watching it.) Any ideas?
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: gbeenie on August 20, 2007, 06:07:30 AM
Arrrgh.

Okay, after months of work, I'm down to my last disc to recompile. It's Top Gun, and for some unexplained reason, the mpeg file is exactly 1/2 hour too short. It reads 1:49 in DVD decrypt, and 1:19 on the hard drive.Any ideas here? Bizarrely enough, the audio file is the right length (which I discovered when the Rifftrax cut off in mid-sentence as I was watching it.) Any ideas?

What's your original source for the movie?
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Compound on August 20, 2007, 01:04:13 PM
The 2 Disc Special Edition set.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: gbeenie on August 20, 2007, 01:21:00 PM
Are there extra scenes that you can watch in the movie via "seamless branching?"
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Compound on August 20, 2007, 02:38:09 PM
There is no branching stuff on the disc, to the best of my knowledge.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: bettertomorrowamy on August 20, 2007, 02:43:36 PM
Ok, this problem happened AFTER you muxed the audio and video together?  You were watching the FILE you muxed from your harddrive, or did you burn it to dvd?
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Compound on August 20, 2007, 04:10:09 PM
Both. I noticed it after I was watching the completed disc, but after I started the process again, I noticed that when I opened up the mpeg file, it was was only 79 minutes long, rather than 109. And it does end right at 79 minutes.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: bettertomorrowamy on August 20, 2007, 04:14:38 PM
So before you muxed the audio and the video, do you know if both files were the same size then.  Maybe you had an error when you muxed them.  Maybe your harddrive had a formatting problem.  Do you still have the unmuxed audio and video?  Have you tried recombining them?  Sounds like a software Fart.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: gbeenie on August 21, 2007, 01:24:55 PM
Region 1 DVD?
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Compound on August 21, 2007, 03:09:50 PM
Yep. A legitimate R1 release, straight from the Factory to Best Buy to me.

I'm going to try it again from the beginning, to see if that makes a difference. But I'm made several attempts to decrypt the video file now, and it's still coming up a half hour short.
Title: Anyone done ID4 yet?
Post by: Manos1977 on September 08, 2007, 09:21:01 PM
I'm having trouble writing the making the final IFO.  I keep getting a "too many frame drops" message from IFOedit.  There are 4 different sources listed and I picked the shorter length one because I'm pretty sure that would be the theatrical version that the riff goes with.  The audio seemed to be the right one because I was able to synchronize the riff properly but I can't get the final DVD files to build properly bfore I burn it.  I don't really know much about this beyond what the original guide said so any got any ideas?
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: lame on September 22, 2007, 02:31:23 PM
Hey, I just wanted to pop in and say THANK YOU SO MUCH for this thread!  I just found out about Rifftrax and bought the Battlefield Earth one.  The Rifftrax Lite directions made a long and scary process so easy, and my DVD came out perfect.   Thanks to this process I will probably end up buying all of them.
:clap:
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: James of LinHood on September 23, 2007, 05:11:55 AM
Hey, I just wanted to pop in and say THANK YOU SO MUCH for this thread!  I just found out about Rifftrax and bought the Battlefield Earth one.  The Rifftrax Lite directions made a long and scary process so easy, and my DVD came out perfect.   Thanks to this process I will probably end up buying all of them.
:clap:

I remember when I first started doing this.  It was so awesome once I got the hang of it.  It makes rewatching Rifftrax so much less of a chore.

Now all I need to learn to do is how to make DVD menus and Special Features (ie: The Rifftrax intros).  Then I'll get to go make are redo all my reauthors......damn.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Ortega on September 23, 2007, 09:51:27 AM
I dont know about Menus, but you can keep the intro on the disc.

When you are synching with GW or Audacity, Before you cut the intro, copy it, and paste into a new project, then save as mp3.

Load the mp3 into Windows Movie Maker.

Drag the mp3 into the timeline, add a begginning credit scroll, and i usually load one of JP's posters into the time line as well.

Save the project as DV-AVI.

Take the created video file, adn load it into Nero Or Roxio or any burn program, and save to a dvd folder.

Then in DVDshrink, click the reauthor tab, and make the intro the fitst title, then the Riff'd movie as the second.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Doctor Manhattan on September 27, 2007, 12:19:43 PM
I'm trying this now with "Revenge of the BLEEEP" So far so good (I'm on step 4 of the main guide, exporting the combined rifftrax mp3 and original movie wav file into a single wav file)
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Doctor Manhattan on September 28, 2007, 05:23:38 AM
It came out perfectly the very first time

The audio tracks (I left in the original as the secondary track, Rifftrax Mix as Primary) are both labeled as "German" I'll check out the posts to see if that has been addressed, otherwise it's perfect (and this is such a minor issue, I don't really care, just curious to see how this can be changed)

Thank you S.A.S.D!
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: BathTub on September 28, 2007, 06:08:05 AM
yeah German is the default setting in ifoedit (it's German software) it's the little pull down menu to the left. you need to do it for each audio track you put in. Experience has taught me that my dvd software picks the default audio track by name, so if I leave the original audio on the DVD I leave that German and set the RiffTrax to English so it defaults to the RiffTrax.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Doctor Manhattan on September 28, 2007, 07:41:56 AM
Thank you. This little project has peaked my interest in DVD Authoring (now that I technically have done it once, and about to do it again this morning on an older Rifftrax)
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Doctor Manhattan on October 03, 2007, 06:35:29 AM
I've gone through the process a few times now and have made DVDs for Revenge of the Sith, 300, Attack of the Clones, Star Trek VI and The Matrix. I have not had any issues with the process and posted at the beginning of this thread. So I've made 5 DVDs that have come out perfectly!

But I can't seem to get past step #6 when making a DVD for Raiders of the Lost Ark

IfoEdit reachs 99%

(http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/1151/99gm3.jpg)

And then I get this message stating it needs to close.

(http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/913/ifoeditneedstoclosemb6.jpg)

So I'm left with a bunch of .VOB files and no .IFO or .BUP files:

I've tried restarting my computer and retrying the DVD Authoring, same result.
I've tried re-unzipping the Ifoedit0971.zip file I got from the 1st page of this thread (In case the application was corrupt), same result
I've tried going through the 1st five steps again (In case the .AC3 and .M2V files were corrupt),  same result

Update: I've also tried moving the files to another PC and running iFoEdit.exe. Same results which kinda makes me feel better that it's not my PC causing the issue, but I really want to be able to make a Raiders Rifftrax DVD.  :(

Anyone else go through this before?
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Bairman on October 03, 2007, 08:41:16 AM
Anyone else go through this before?

Yes.  IfoEdit crashed at 99% every time as it was attempting to create the IFO files, so I had to use Muxman instead.

http://www.mpucoder.com/Muxman/versions.shtml
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Doctor Manhattan on October 03, 2007, 09:00:58 AM
Yes.  IfoEdit crashed at 99% every time as it was attempting to create the IFO files, so I had to use Muxman instead.

http://www.mpucoder.com/Muxman/versions.shtml


Thanks, I am running it now.

Update, Muxman works. Thanks again for the help. I will try using IfoEdit on the next DVD I make but I'm glad you pointed out this tool.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: SecretAgentSuperDragon on October 03, 2007, 09:48:34 AM
You can use rejig too. That's what I normally do. Didn't crash for me when I did Raiders.

The only problem was that the subtitles are about 2 seconds off. Nothing I can do about that.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Bairman on October 03, 2007, 10:14:20 AM
Update, Muxman works. Thanks again for the help. I will try using IfoEdit on the next DVD I make but I'm glad you pointed out this tool.

Glad it worked.  Raiders is the first re-author (out of 17) where I experienced this problem with IfoEdit .
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Doctor Manhattan on October 03, 2007, 11:08:32 AM
I'm very curious if there is something about the Raiders DVD that IfoEdit doesn't like.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: SecretAgentSuperDragon on October 03, 2007, 04:17:54 PM
I'm very curious if there is something about the Raiders DVD that IfoEdit doesn't like.

Snakes.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: RoninFox on October 08, 2007, 04:38:50 PM
Alright, I've done this once so far (Daredevil, only had one hitch and it was just a matter of trying again on burning it) but I can't say I really understand most of what I'm doing.  I'm just following steps.  The only time I really understood what I was doing was syncing up the audio, that part went easy.  I was wondering though, is there a way to get two files on one dvd?  For example Heroes.  I don't want to burn two discs if I can get both episodes on one.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: bettertomorrowamy on October 08, 2007, 07:01:49 PM
You'll need dual layer discs and a dual layer burner. 

I didn't read the heroes part, do what Bathtub says.  Sorry.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: BathTub on October 08, 2007, 07:52:13 PM
switch from full disc to reauthor in DVDShrink and drag over each episode and they will just play 1 after another.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: RoninFox on October 09, 2007, 05:01:29 AM
Alright, I'll give that a shot in the morning.  Thanks.

And thanks to Super Dragon too, this guide got me started easily.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Doctor Manhattan on October 09, 2007, 09:06:07 AM
switch from full disc to reauthor in DVDShrink and drag over each episode and they will just play 1 after another.

So you follow the other six steps for each episode separately (creating 2 sets of files for each episode) and then just drag the folders containing the DVD authored files (the .VOB, .IFO and .BUP files) into DVD shrink?

I will try this with my Lost rifftrax
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: SecretAgentSuperDragon on October 09, 2007, 12:36:12 PM
Alright, I'll give that a shot in the morning.  Thanks.

And thanks to Super Dragon too, this guide got me started easily.

Glad to help.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: SecretAgentSuperDragon on October 20, 2007, 02:19:08 PM
I was getting to thinking about the deep analysis option on DVD shrink, and whether it is worth doubling your time or if the picture quality between the deep analysis and the non-deep analysis picture is not that big of a deal.

If somebody has a screen capture tool on their computers dvd player, maybe you could show two frames of a dvd-shrinked movie, one being a deep analyzed one, and the other being a non-analyzed one, then kind of do a side-by-side comparison.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Chaos on November 26, 2007, 08:30:25 AM
Hey...

Not sure if this is exactly the right place to ask this question, but figured it was as good a place as any...

Do any of you fine DVD reauthoring folks know of a relatively easy-to-use program that will allow you to add a visual timestamp onto the vieo image once you have ripped it off the DVD, so when you reauthor it you get a timestamp onscreen at all times?
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: RoninFox on November 26, 2007, 11:06:37 PM
Hmm...no idea what you'd use to do that.  Sounds useful for riffing purposes though, so I'll see if I can figure something out.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Moose on November 27, 2007, 04:22:51 AM
If you know how to use VirtualDubMod (with AviSynth scripts), then ShowSMPTE (http://avisynth.org/mediawiki/ShowFrameNumber) should be what you're looking for.

If you are indeed unfamiliar with said program, it is pretty easy-to-use and won't take you long to learn with the help of a search engine.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Chaos on November 27, 2007, 07:24:44 AM
Ah RoninFox, you are too smart for me. You figured out exactly what it is I'm planning to do. :)

Moose, thank you for the link. I'll take a look at it when I have the chance and see if it is a useful program. In the interim, if anyone is interested, I wrote an Excel program to solve this problem for me by creating a subtitle file with the timestamp in it - basically, every second of the film, it displays a text timestamp that is equal to the current second of the film track... this way, you have the added advantage that you can also turn it off by disabling subtitles. It's a neat little trick I figured out... just get the VB script in Excel to create a timestamp entry like this:

1
00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:01,000
00:00:00

2
00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:02,000
00:00:01

3
00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:03,000
00:00:02

Then just copy all of that text, dump it into notepad, name the file subtitle.srt instead of .txt, and use your reauthoring software to insert it as a subtitle track (I set mine to the default track and program the DVD to play that subtitle by default, but you can also leave it off and just turn it on manually). As long as your reauthoring software supports .srt subtitles instead of the fully rendered .sub (most do), this works quite nicely.

Again, in case anyone is ineterested, here is the code you can put into Excel to accomplish this. The code assumes your worksheet name is "Sheet1," column A needs to be empty, and cell "D3" should have the number of seconds long that your movie is (for a 1 hour movie, that would be 3600 seconds). Just attach this code to a command button, click to activate once you have filled in cell D3:

Code: [Select]
Private Sub CommandButton1_Click()
    ThisWorkbook.Sheets("Sheet1").Range("C8").Select
    If ThisWorkbook.Sheets("Sheet1").Range("D3").Value = 0 Then Exit Sub
    ans = MsgBox("Are you sure?", vbQuestion & vbYesNo, "Proceed?")
    If ans <> vbYes Then Exit Sub

    myTime = Timer
   
    ThisWorkbook.Sheets("Sheet1").Range("A:A").ClearContents
    ThisWorkbook.Sheets("Sheet1").Range("A1:A65000").Delete Shift:=xlUp
    Application.Wait (Now + TimeValue("00:00:00"))
   
    myMaxFrame = ThisWorkbook.Sheets("Sheet1").Range("D3").Value
    myFrame = 0
    myRow = 1
       
    For cnt = 1 To myMaxFrame
        myStartFrame = Evaluate("=text(" & myFrame & "/24/3600,""hh:mm:ss"")")
        myStopFrame = Evaluate("=text(" & myFrame + 1 & "/24/3600,""hh:mm:ss"")")
       
        ThisWorkbook.Sheets("Sheet1").Range("A" & myRow).Value = cnt
        myRow = myRow + 1
       
        ThisWorkbook.Sheets("Sheet1").Range("A" & myRow).Value = _
            myStartFrame & ",000 --> " & myStopFrame & ",000"
        myRow = myRow + 1
       
        ThisWorkbook.Sheets("Sheet1").Range("A" & myRow).Value = myStartFrame
        myRow = myRow + 2

        myFrame = myFrame + 1
    Next cnt

    MsgBox (".SRT Text Created." & vbCr & vbCr & "The process took " & _
        Round(Timer - myTime, 2) & " seconds to complete."), _
        vbInformation, "Process Complete"
End Sub

I think I actually found doing this to be easier than finding a program to handle timestamps (because I looked for about 3 hours through google and couldn't find a program to add a timestamp to video, and it took me literally 5 minutes to figure out the Excel code once I figured out how .srt files worked). :)

This would be useful for, as RoninFox correctly guessed, keeping yourself easily synched with your movie when writing or recording riffs of your own. :)

Edited to fit code properly, and to add that this code will create an hour and a half worth of subtitles in about 10 seconds... pretty nice! ;)
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: bettertomorrowamy on November 27, 2007, 05:34:58 PM
My dvd player comes with a setting that tells you how far in the movie is.  I thought they all did.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Chaos on November 27, 2007, 07:26:31 PM
Some DVD players only show the time in hours and minutes (no seconds), some don't show it at all unless you go into a menu. It's kind of nice to have it in giant (30 point, in my case) font right on the screen, so you don't have to look away or in another direction to get the timestamp while you are writing / performing.

I think I read somewhere that Best Brains used to use an on-screen timestamp way back in the day. And someone told me recently that they did it for the Film Crew, as well. But I couldn't find any software in a casual search that had that feature inherently, which is why I put my nerdy Excel talents to the task. :)
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: RoninFox on November 27, 2007, 10:28:46 PM
When I first tried writing I was using the PS2 in the living room for the dvd player, and it had a pretty easily accessible time display you could put onscreen.  Later when I was writing in my bedroom I had to use the led display on the front of my player, and something tells me the two weren't exactly the same for some reason.

I do remember seeing some behind the scenes stuff on MST3K that showed the writers watching the movie with the time stamp onscreen, and shoot the "Assignment Venezuela" short still had the time stamp on it when it made it to DVD (though I'm not sure if that was their doing or not, it seemed like it wasn't the final copy of the short, like they could ONLY get a version with the time stamp.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Fortis on November 28, 2007, 12:09:06 PM
Hey has any one else had a problem getting DVD decryptor to rip the audio file of the Harry Potter DVD? I have already created a full rifftrax DVD for Indiana Jones so I am pretty sure I have all the settings right. But instead of getting my video audio and IFO file I am getting a video IFO and a VOB file.

Any help would be great.

Thanks
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Bairman on November 28, 2007, 01:38:22 PM
On the Stream Processing tab, once you've selected the streams you want to rip and deselected those you don't, right click on one of the selected streams and choose "set selected - demux".
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Fortis on November 28, 2007, 02:16:41 PM
Oh yeah...haha I did that the first time. This time I only clicked the Demux check box. I thought it would work this way but it didn't. Thanks it should work now.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Johnny@theFair on December 04, 2007, 03:52:14 PM
Sweet!  It worked!

I just did Raiders of the Lost Ark following the instructions in the first post.

I did have to use ReJig in Step 6 instead of Ifoedit.  It crashed.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: sammny on December 05, 2007, 07:58:09 AM


or use this mac guide posted by dr9553: http://www.quickstream.tv/rifftrax/


Thank you everyone for your helpful guides. I tested the mac guide quoted above and have one question: does anyone know of a program that definitely will shrink the files created by FFmpegX? I don't want to purchase any programs that may not work.  But if I know they'll work, I'll definitely invest.  I was testing the guide with Transformers but the file size is way too large for a single dvd. Any suggestions?

Thanks for all of your time
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Johnny@theFair on December 05, 2007, 08:18:44 AM
This may be a dumb question (I've searched the site and can't seem to find it) but I'm going to do Fellowship of the Ring as my second authoring - Do I have to merge the two mp3 files together before I bring the riff into Audacity? If so, how do I do that?

p.s. - do I grab the 2 channel and not the 6 channel audio from the CD in DVDDecryptor?


thanks!
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: SecretAgentSuperDragon on December 05, 2007, 09:21:16 AM


or use this mac guide posted by dr9553: http://www.quickstream.tv/rifftrax/


Thank you everyone for your helpful guides. I tested the mac guide quoted above and have one question: does anyone know of a program that definitely will shrink the files created by FFmpegX? I don't want to purchase any programs that may not work.  But if I know they'll work, I'll definitely invest.  I was testing the guide with Transformers but the file size is way too large for a single dvd. Any suggestions?

Thanks for all of your time

DVDRemaster is $40 trialware, but I do not know the limitations on it, since I'm a pc guy. But here's the link: http://metakine.com/products/dvdremaster/
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: RVR II on December 05, 2007, 09:24:51 AM
I just used this program to convert the Star Wars Holiday Special from .mp4 to DVD and it worked Flawlessly!
Just watched the burned DVD! It even allows you to add another audio track (RiffTrax .mp3) to the saved project later.
Here's the link: http://www.dvdflick.net/ And It's Free!!
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: SecretAgentSuperDragon on December 05, 2007, 10:10:03 AM
I just used this program to convert the Star Wars Holiday Special from .mp4 to DVD and it worked Flawlessly!
Just watched the burned DVD! It even allows you to add another audio track (RiffTrax .mp3) to the saved project later.
Here's the link: http://www.dvdflick.net/ And It's Free!!

You'll have to find someway though to extract the movie audio and mix it with the riff in audacity or goldwave.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: RVR II on December 05, 2007, 10:37:56 AM
I just used this program to convert the Star Wars Holiday Special from .mp4 to DVD and it worked Flawlessly!
Just watched the burned DVD! It even allows you to add another audio track (RiffTrax .mp3) to the saved project later.
Here's the link: http://www.dvdflick.net/ And It's Free!!

You'll have to find someway though to extract the movie audio and mix it with the riff in audacity or goldwave.
My Pinnacle software does that part already.. Haven't tried out those other programs
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Mort Rex on December 08, 2007, 12:26:55 PM
Dear sirs,

I seem to be having trouble. Dunno why, I've done this before! For some reason, when I "Decrypt using DVD Decrypter", I'm not getting an AC3 file. I get an M2V file, a VOB File, and an IFO file. In decrypter I am using IFO mode, with the Demux box checked. Just like it says in the guide. What am I doing wrong? HELP  :speechless: :scared:
Hi folks,
I am a rank novice at RiffTrax ReAuthoring.
Question # 1:
I am also having this same problem. I have looked in the Tech Support Forum, but cannot find an answer to what I am doing wrong. I cannot seem to get to Step 2 because of this problem. Help Please!
Question # 2:
I have also tried Decrypting with DVD Fab Platinum, but there is no option for changing IFO default settings, and no AC3 files are produced that I can identify.
Is there a method for using DVD Fab Platinum to Rip a DVD for RiffTrax ReAuthoring?
Any Advice/Hints/Ideas?




Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Bairman on December 08, 2007, 12:40:05 PM
When ripping with DVD Decrypter, make sure the "demux" box is checked for EACH stream you've selected.  Either highlight each one and select "demux" or just right click on one of the selected streams and choose "set selected - demux".
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Mort Rex on December 10, 2007, 09:27:33 PM
Thanks Bairman!
Just goes to show you should consume the light version, before diving into the main course!
Finished up my first RiffTrax project Sunday. Predator. Made me very happy.
Thanks again for the nudge.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Zandrax on December 16, 2007, 05:30:36 AM
First off, this is an awesome how-to. Though I made a couple mistakes, I now have a fully functional Phantom Menace DVD. A few crackles here and there but I'm sure I can fix that on another try.

Secondly, please forgive me for not reading through all replies on a 30+ page thread at seven in the morning. My apologies if this has been answered before, and feel free to whip me with a wet noodle. Like I said, Phantom Menace ripped and burned pretty much flawlessly, but when I use Rejig on Episode II it seems to rip for a minute or to then quickly ends and leaves me with approximately a 200 meg video file and a 7 meg AC3.

Has anybody else had this issue with this or any other DVDs? Or have the goblinoids sabotaged my stuff again?
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Zandrax on December 16, 2007, 06:33:06 AM
OK, you can scratch that last problem. I used a different DVD drive and it worked fine. My external must have just been picky.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Zandrax on December 18, 2007, 10:16:59 PM
One more thing that seems to be happening with Rejig is now it crashes right before it would complete a DVD Authoring.

Defrag the drive perhaps?
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Ortega on December 18, 2007, 10:19:53 PM
Try using IFOedit instead of Rejig.   
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Zandrax on December 18, 2007, 11:23:01 PM
Well, it was my fault again.

I forgot to revert the sound back to an AC3 file. That's why it was crashing. Once I converted that, it worked just fine.

For the record, to throw my own little twist as far as the sound goes, I'm experimenting with some Goldwave mixing. Audacity for some reason opens each sound file in a completely separate program window and only allows me one edit. Goldwave I know a little bit so I use it more often.

Anyway, I do a Maximize Volume step in Goldwave, it seems to make the sound more even throughout so you don't have quiet dialogue followed my monstrous action sounds that drown out the commentary.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: RoninFox on December 19, 2007, 07:52:41 AM
If you want to try again with Audacity you can get them in the same project by opening the Audacity window first and then just drag-and-drop the files you need into it.  Just an option though, haven't tried Goldwave yet myself but I've been curious to see if it's any easier to get the levels right.
Title: Re: Sucess, finally
Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on December 22, 2007, 07:23:39 PM
 Finally got some sucessful reauthers after many failed attempts.  :cheers:

 I firgured with all the audio and video software I already had it would be easy but something was always getting messed up, audio or video not the correct length, drift problems, had do grab more programs to get everything to work...

So, if any one's interested here's my work flow:

Dvd decrypter or rejig to demux the streams (sounds like something from Ghostbusters).
Super to covert the audio .ac3 file to mp3.
Audacity to combine the RiffTrax with the movie audio and save as mp3.
ffmpeggui to convert the mixed mp3 to ac3
rejig to recombine the files to DVD format.
Either burn to dual layer DVD or use nero recode to burn to a single layer DVD.

Now, has anyone tried messing with 6 channel audio?  I think it would be cool to have the RiffTrax on the rear speakers and the movie on the front 3.  Anyone tried this?
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Ortega on December 22, 2007, 10:18:36 PM
Yes, but it would require you to Purchase Goldwave and the Goldwave Voice Plug-in....

Bairman figured out a way to get exactly what you're looking for.
http://forum.rifftrax.com/index.php/topic,5479.0.html

Now personally, I like to use Audacity to sync the rifftrax to the movie audio, and then close out the movie audio, then export the modified rifftrax separate, so you dont have to sync in Goldwave...which is a major pain in the ass.  What's even better, for some reason, if you sync the riff in audacity, you dont have to worry about the delay problem with the GW plug-in.

Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on December 23, 2007, 12:23:22 AM
Bairman figured out a way to get exactly what you're looking for.
http://forum.rifftrax.com/index.php/topic,5479.0.html

Thanks, I think the BeSweet and BeLite programs are all I would need, once the individual mono wav files for each channel are ripped from the ac3 file I can then use audacity to create new files for the channels I want to change...

I think the way to go in audacity would be to sync up and then blank out the movie audio, that way the resulting output would be the correct length, then use the same file for the right and left rear speakers, leaving the front 3 channels as they were.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Ortega on December 23, 2007, 12:36:46 AM
That would work, but you'd lose the rear channel sounds, so it would be a stereo track with just the riff in the back.  with the Goldwave plug-in, you can actually mix the riff in with the rear channel sounds, so you won't actually lose any sound.  Plus, with the plug-in, it automatically lowers all the movie for the riffs, and brings it back up again.   A lot better than messing around with levels for the whole movie. 
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on December 23, 2007, 01:27:23 AM
That would work, but you'd lose the rear channel sounds, so it would be a stereo track with just the riff in the back. 

Yes, that's exactly what I want to do, so the RiffTrax would be as clear as possible on the rear channels, with no loss in volume for the movie on the front 3 and the sub-woofer channels.  That will be similar to how I listen when playing the RiffTrax on my iPod with powered speakers.  Garsh, if I'm watching the movie riffed I'm not paying attention to the surround sound on the movie, for that I'd play the original DVD.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Ortega on December 23, 2007, 02:44:10 AM
cool.... I'm a bit anal-rententive when it comes to little details like that, but whatever works for you. great!
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: RoninFox on December 23, 2007, 04:12:20 AM
That would work, but you'd lose the rear channel sounds, so it would be a stereo track with just the riff in the back.  with the Goldwave plug-in, you can actually mix the riff in with the rear channel sounds, so you won't actually lose any sound.  Plus, with the plug-in, it automatically lowers all the movie for the riffs, and brings it back up again.   A lot better than messing around with levels for the whole movie. 

That actually sounds like a decent effect.  It'd be like having the riffers in the back of the room while talking back to the movie in front.

Now you you wanted to go really nuts with it, then you'd get it so Kevin would just come from the rear left speaker, Bill through the rear right, and Mike on both to be centered.   ;D
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: bettertomorrowamy on December 23, 2007, 05:36:33 AM
That would work, but you'd lose the rear channel sounds, so it would be a stereo track with just the riff in the back.  with the Goldwave plug-in, you can actually mix the riff in with the rear channel sounds, so you won't actually lose any sound.  Plus, with the plug-in, it automatically lowers all the movie for the riffs, and brings it back up again.   A lot better than messing around with levels for the whole movie. 

That actually sounds like a decent effect.  It'd be like having the riffers in the back of the room while talking back to the movie in front.

Now you you wanted to go really nuts with it, then you'd get it so Kevin would just come from the rear left speaker, Bill through the rear right, and Mike on both to be centered.   ;D

If you set it up like that your either going to (1) impress friends very much (2) scare friends away because your heightened nerd status
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: RoninFox on December 23, 2007, 05:39:13 AM
With the friends I have they'd either

1. not really notice

or

2. just call me a geek and move on
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Bairman on December 23, 2007, 06:13:45 AM
That actually sounds like a decent effect.  It'd be like having the riffers in the back of the room while talking back to the movie in front.

It's extremely awesome.  I was determined to do it from the very beginning with my first reauthor, and it took me about a month of spare time to figure everything out and get it all working correctly, but the result has been amazing.  I have a 7.1 system and the riffers completely envelop me in the four rear speakers.  The only way it could be any better would be to have the riffers split into separate channels, but with the RiffTrax MP3 being mono and the riffers sometimes overlapping one another, it would be next to impossible to do.

Putting the RiffTrax in the rear channels also helps with the disorientation some people have felt about not seeing the riffer's silhouettes on the screen.  Since they sound like they're sitting behind you, you don't *expect* to see them on the screen.

I'm planning an overhaul of my guide sometime early next year.  In addition to some updates, I've also found a way to create pseudo-surround sound from two channel audio sources which comes in handy for DVDs that don't have a 5.1 audio track (e.g. Road House).  It's not as good as true 5.1 audio, but it's better than plain old stereo.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Bairman on December 23, 2007, 06:29:18 AM
Now personally, I like to use Audacity to sync the rifftrax to the movie audio, and then close out the movie audio, then export the modified rifftrax separate, so you dont have to sync in Goldwave...which is a major pain in the ass.  What's even better, for some reason, if you sync the riff in audacity, you dont have to worry about the delay problem with the GW plug-in.

Syncing in Goldwave isn't all that difficult... just time consuming... especially when doing 5.1 audio.  I rarely have to insert or delete any audio in the RiffTrax file.  More often than not when the sync lines don't match the movie perfectly, it's because DisembAudio is off the mark a little bit, but it doesn't affect the timing of the riffs.  My guess is that the riff track and DisembAudio's sync lines are recorded separately and then merged into the final MP3 file, which means that the riffs can be perfectly in sync with the movie, but DA's sync lines might be off by a bit.  I've learned never to assume that DA is always 100% accurate.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Krendall on January 05, 2008, 05:10:50 PM
TIP USING AUDACITY!

Sorry if this has already been mentioned, but I haven't had time to read the whole topic.

Rather than trying to add or delete blank sound from the RiffTrax .mp3 in Audacity, there's a much easier way to synch the audio. In the upper-left section of the program is a button than looks like two arrows pointing left and right. Click it. This will allow you to drag the entire audio section until it's synched up where you want it. I've used this method for both Spider-Man and Star Wars I and the audio for both was synched PERFECTLY.

BTW, hi. :-[
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: RoninFox on January 05, 2008, 05:16:31 PM
I thought that was exactly what has always been suggested...at least that's what I've always done.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Krendall on January 05, 2008, 05:20:09 PM
I thought that was exactly what has always been suggested...at least that's what I've always done.
The guide in the first post says to add blank audio until the two files are synched. *shrug*
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: RoninFox on January 05, 2008, 05:20:46 PM
I guess I missed that for the better then
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: sonofblaine on January 12, 2008, 08:42:46 AM
New to all this.  THANKS ALOT!

I originally was doing it in a roundabout way that wasted a DVDR each time and had ALOT of bugs.  BUT I was afraid of all these instructions and my general bad luck.  But I took a chance and found it pretty easy and better than what I was doing!  I was using Nero in the equasion and the only thing I miss is having a fancy pants Menu with Rifftrax art on it.  But I'm sure with a little modification, I can learn to do that.

Again, thanks alot!

EDIT:

Ok I went through alot of trials. 

I tried the first "Lite" idea posted on the opening post.  I liked it but when I watched "Over the Top" (the film I picked to try first), I found the audio lagging a few seconds.  Enough to make it looked badly dubbed.  It was probably the ac3 delay issue.

Then, I used the longer method and worked fine.  The pros to both of these are how I can mess with and edit the sound files, getting them just right, removing Dis, etc.  The cons are that I missed the cool Menus I made for my others when I was doing it with Nero only.  Also, I just couldn't get the Chapters working.

Finally, I went ahead on and get my SecretAgentSuperdragon method on my Nero... and my Nero on my SASD Method!  Two good things that go great together!!

I follow the longer method up to the last part, and instead of burning it all with DVD Shrink, I take it in Nero, use THAT to make my chapters, a menu (using the Rifftrax.com art for each movie as the background) and taking a tip from a guy I read on this thread, I'm editing the opening "Host segments" up to play over my Menu.  :D  This are really looking up.

Nero takes ALOT longer to create, but I think it's a decent Tradeoff for the all around package.

Thanks again for this thread.  It rocks.  I am now ready to fill up the back end of my huge MST3K DVD Binder with Rifftrax DVDs.  I weep with joy.

I'm in the burning stage of my first try doing it with Nero the way I mentioned above.  Knowing my luck, I'm posting this too early and something will happen and it won't work.  -_-

EDIT AGAIN:

Worked.  Awesome.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Jazzman99 on January 21, 2008, 08:05:19 PM
I know virtually nothing about video or audio editing--well, let me amend that. I know nothing about video or audio editing, or dvd authoring, or virtually anything else related to the various techniques needed to accomplish this wonderful feat. However, I do have a burning desire to make my own Rifftrax DVDs using the guides I've been reading for the past few days, here and on other boards.

Now, here's the good news: I will be, within the next couple of months, upgrading to a spanking new desktop computer to replace my current one. So, a question: if you were buying a computer with the Rifftrax DVD project as one of your specific goals in mind, is there anything special you would look for? Obviously a DVD burner is tops on the list (my current computer doesn't have one), but what else in terms of specs, equipment, etc? How can I make this as easy as possible on myself?

It seems like there are a lot of people doing this, and that makes it seem odd to me that no programming whiz out there has put together a single program that combines all the functions of the various programs needed at different steps of the process. Just put in the DVD, download the rifftrax, and click a couple of buttons. Shouldn't such a thing be possible?
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: bettertomorrowamy on January 21, 2008, 08:29:22 PM
I know virtually nothing about video or audio editing--well, let me amend that. I know nothing about video or audio editing, or dvd authoring, or virtually anything else related to the various techniques needed to accomplish this wonderful feat. However, I do have a burning desire to make my own Rifftrax DVDs using the guides I've been reading for the past few days, here and on other boards.

Now, here's the good news: I will be, within the next couple of months, upgrading to a spanking new desktop computer to replace my current one. So, a question: if you were buying a computer with the Rifftrax DVD project as one of your specific goals in mind, is there anything special you would look for? Obviously a DVD burner is tops on the list (my current computer doesn't have one), but what else in terms of specs, equipment, etc? How can I make this as easy as possible on myself?

It seems like there are a lot of people doing this, and that makes it seem odd to me that no programming whiz out there has put together a single program that combines all the functions of the various programs needed at different steps of the process. Just put in the DVD, download the rifftrax, and click a couple of buttons. Shouldn't such a thing be possible?

Yeah, get a dvd burner (preferably one that can burn dual layer discs for optimum video quality), at least a 100 GB hard-drive, 1 Ghz or faster processor (the faster the processor, the faster the job gets done), and probably a large external hard-drive or second internal drive.

Somebody could create a program that you are talking about, but it would be illegal. 
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Ortega on January 21, 2008, 08:31:03 PM
there probably are some programs that are a quick, do-it-all solution, but those programs tend to be the ones you have to pay for.  The great thing about this guide is that all the programs are freeware.  And as far as specs go, as long as you can run Xp or Vista, you should be set. I would suggest at least a 2Ghz processor, and at least 1 GB of RAM, and i suggest getting a auxilary Hard Drive, as the saving and creating of new files can slow down the process if its all going in the C: Drive.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: GroovyDave on January 26, 2008, 06:12:09 AM
I'd like to thank SecretAgentSuperDragon for this outstanding guide to creating a Rifftrax. The Lite version has been working fantastically well for me and I'm delighted to be able to compile these myself. The Rifftrax player is nice but I have a different goal in mind -- DIVX encoded AVI files as the final output of the process. This is so I can queue up a few Riffs at a time in media player and let them play while roaming about the house. The guide works great for this and the only modification at the end is to use the DIVX converter to process the resulting DVD files.


if you were buying a computer with the Rifftrax DVD project as one of your specific goals in mind, is there anything special you would look for? Obviously a DVD burner is tops on the list (my current computer doesn't have one), but what else in terms of specs, equipment, etc? How can I make this as easy as possible on myself?
Essentially you are building a video and audio editing workstation so the more powerful hardware you have to perform that task the better. Happily, this will also work fine for games and everything else you do. I'd highly recommend you look into the following parts:
- Intel dual-core processors (like the Intel Core Duo 2)
- 2 Gigabytes of RAM minimum
- Huge SATA hard drive (500GB Seagates are reasonably priced)
- Windows XP is my preferred operating system, but Vista does have some advantages at this point

The fast processor will make the computation part of rendering video go by much more quickly. When multiplexing or demultiplexing video and audio streams, having a fast PC will make that more pleasant. Also, not having to worry about space as you make these files is also a real joy.

I'm not giving specific recommendations for audio or video components because I assume you will be burning these to DVD's and in that case the onboard audio that comes on most motherboards will be sufficient. For video, if you are going to play games then you may want to consider either ATI or nVidia graphics cards. Even if not, a decent video card will make using Vista much more pleasant as you'll get all the goofy disco effects that Vista supports with its Aero interface.


Thanks again to all the comments from other people, seeing how other folks solve the problem of getting rifftrax built has been very instructive.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Insert Coin(s) to Continue on February 06, 2008, 10:09:52 PM
I'm working on creating my own commentary for Gamera: Guardian of the Universe. I have recorded, and I'm trying to rip the DVD, but I'm running into trouble. I've followed the guide before and it's worked fine for me twice (for Nestor the Long-Eared Christmas Donkey and The Lincoln Project), but this time things are going poorly. Everything seemed alright, but when I tried importing the files into Premiere (long story. Just trust that it usually works) the audio and video are WAAAAAAY off. One is going faster than the other (I'm pretty sure it's the video). Is there any setting I may have accidentally activated that caused this to happen?

My Gamera DVD is Region 1 NTSC. I can't find any note of original framerate, but I'm assuming it's the standard 29.97.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: GroovyDave on February 21, 2008, 07:48:30 PM
Film is usually 24 fps while digital videos run towards 30 (29.997) fps. Maybe if you treat the Gamera video as having 24 frames a second it will synch up properly.


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In other news I'm hitting a vexing wall. I'm trying to build a compiled version of Harry Potter. I've been using this guide as the basis for the four other movies I've built and they went together nicely (except for Missile to the Moon). Still, the issue is that the audio file from the movie is off by a few hundred milliseconds from the action on the screen. It's consistent throughout the entire movie, seems to get worse the more I try to correct for it and is making me lose some hair.

I extracted the video and audio with ReJig using the Old Engine and "Correct AC3 Delay" on like I have with all the other movies I've done. It spat out a m2v movie file and an AC3 file that said "Delay -584ms corrected to 0ms".  I used that file to output a wav, synched up the riff using my own guide for audio ducking with Reaper and dumped the final audio to another wav. Put everything back into Rejig and told it to compile. End result:  the movie is about a half second behind the audio.

I tried making a version that had 584ms audio delay entered in the ReJig box but that was more horribly skewed than my first attempt (which I've kept around for comparison). I'm re-extracting the audio data without any AC3 delay correction and we'll see how that goes but this is a weird one. Not sure why it wants to be so consistently out of synch.

Really what I'd like is a program like Vegas so I could just synch them up visually and call it a day. Ah well, maybe next paycheck.

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Update:  Using DelayCut to fix the AC3 file worked whereas ReJig didn't. Go figure. Anyway, onwards to the boring AutoGK phase of making this a watchable file. Woo!
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Quicksilver on February 29, 2008, 07:11:14 PM
I'm in the process of re-authoring Jurassic park on ironically, a dinosaur of a computer.

 I just bought a 20x multiformat DVD writer.  ;D
Here's the funny part
1ghz pent III
windows XP pro
256mb of ram
120gb hd

I'm up to step two of the lite tutorial
Hey, I'm trying it ::)
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Quicksilver on March 01, 2008, 08:03:02 PM
It worked just fine...

So the minimum requirements are complete bs. The DVD is awesome, never experienced a rifftrax like this before.  ;D
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: UglyBat19 on March 04, 2008, 11:52:43 PM
I followed the Lite instructions to the letter.  But when I played the movie, I suddenly cut off 15 minutes too early.  Any suggestions?
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: bettertomorrowamy on March 05, 2008, 04:53:30 AM
Need more information.  What movie?
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: UglyBat19 on March 05, 2008, 10:09:28 PM
300.  Basically Rejig (I'm using the lite instructions) only Demuxs about an hour and a half of the dvd.  Is there something I'm missing?
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: bettertomorrowamy on March 06, 2008, 05:45:42 AM
It's really hard to say.  Do you have enough hard drive space?  Maybe your 300 copy has scratches on it.
Can you try the steps out on a different movie?  It another movie works, then I would guess it is the 300 disc.
In my experience it's usually some inconsistency in the disc.  But maybe not.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Quicksilver on March 07, 2008, 10:10:10 AM
yeah, the only thing I can think of is a lack of disk space. It happened to me a few times, but it let me fix it while ripping or converting or whatever. I really want 300 on DVD, so I'll try it out and see what happens to me.

So far I've only re-autored jurassic park and wicker man.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: UglyBat19 on March 08, 2008, 08:20:32 PM
UPDATE

I managed to get everything written in entirety.  But the DVD doesn't have any chapters.  I tried re-authoring twice, but no go.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: bettertomorrowamy on March 08, 2008, 10:26:41 PM
You have to tell it where you want chapters.  There is a step for that.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: RoninFox on March 09, 2008, 01:00:54 AM
In case it hasn't been mentioned yet, the newest version of Audacity (1.3.4 beta) has an auto ducking feature that is fairly easy to use and very effective from what I've seen.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Quicksilver on March 09, 2008, 12:11:34 PM
I was going to make a joke but I cannot think of what the hell ducking means
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: bettertomorrowamy on March 09, 2008, 12:26:38 PM
The ducking feature is the bees knees.  If you adjust the settings correctly you will be very pleased.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Quicksilver on March 09, 2008, 06:50:01 PM
lmao! I The google center of my brain is malfunctioning today. I now know what ducking is.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: UglyBat19 on March 09, 2008, 08:33:13 PM
Maybe your not understanding what I mean when I say "follow the instructions to the letter".  I am inputting the chapter breaks in ReJig where it says.  Yes I've already done the Chapter X thing.  I tried IFOEdit, but it crashes everytime I try to author the IFO file.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: bettertomorrowamy on March 09, 2008, 08:46:08 PM
Maybe your not understanding what I mean when I say "follow the instructions to the letter".  I am inputting the chapter breaks in ReJig where it says.  Yes I've already done the Chapter X thing.  I tried IFOEdit, but it crashes everytime I try to author the IFO file.

Is it just on 300 or does this happen on every movie?

Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: UglyBat19 on March 09, 2008, 08:46:48 PM
SORRY.  SORRY.  Didn't mean to get so snappish and condescending.  Third day in a row without sleep.  Been trying the same movie for a week.  No excuses, though.  I think I'm the one who needs to go back to my desk: settle down: focus:  AND CATCH UP. 
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: UglyBat19 on March 09, 2008, 08:49:15 PM
300's actually my first shot.  I think I'm doing alright considering.  Give me a few hours to try another movie to see if it's all of them.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: bettertomorrowamy on March 09, 2008, 09:00:08 PM
I don't remember having any problems when I did mine, or reading about any.

The problem ones were Gray's Anatomy, Lost, Dr. Moreau, ID4, Casino Royale, and probably some more.

ID4 is a pain just cuz there are 4 versions on one disc.  Lost had sync issues on the first episode I think. 
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: UglyBat19 on March 09, 2008, 11:33:53 PM
The problem episodes are all the ones I just bought.  That's really reassuring.   ;D
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: UglyBat19 on March 10, 2008, 12:48:37 PM
SUCCESS!  I reinstalled Rejig and ChapterX.  That seemed to do the trick.  Now on to Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer.  Has anyone run into the problem of ReJig or DVD Decrypter ripping only about 45 minutes or so of video?  That's my newest problem.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: UglyBat19 on March 10, 2008, 01:09:08 PM
It seems to be cutting out parts from the middle.  It still has opening and closing credits, yet it's only 45 minutes long.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: UglyBat19 on March 10, 2008, 02:29:44 PM
It does it with FF and Eragon too.  I tried lowering the read speed and increasing the buffer ratio.  No change.  Any suggestions.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: SecretAgentSuperDragon on March 10, 2008, 03:25:23 PM
Under Rejig settings, do you have old engine or new engine selected?
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: UglyBat19 on March 10, 2008, 03:52:30 PM
Old Engine.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: UglyBat19 on March 10, 2008, 03:57:53 PM
It's doing it for every movie I put in, so I think it's safe to discount anything specific the DVD's themselves.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: SecretAgentSuperDragon on March 10, 2008, 08:00:52 PM
If your demuxing screens look like this, then I don't know what would be wrong. It might be something with your computer. Do you have a second computer you can try this software out on?
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: UglyBat19 on March 10, 2008, 09:16:47 PM
Yeah.  That's how I have it set up.  Unfortunately, my computer is the healthiest in the house.  There isn't another that has enough drive space.  This is weird.  It worked a couple nights ago.  I was having troubles burning, not ripping.  Now it's the other way around.  I think it might be my disk drive.  But it still clones fine.  So I am completely stumped.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: SecretAgentSuperDragon on March 10, 2008, 09:21:24 PM
Have you tried demuxing the files with dvd decrypter or pgc demux, and putting them back together in rejig(since ifoedit crashes on you) and seeing what happens. That might narrow down the source of the problem for you.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: UglyBat19 on March 10, 2008, 10:57:41 PM
Hummmm.  That sounds like a good idea.  I'll give it a try.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: UglyBat19 on March 11, 2008, 08:42:59 PM
Strangely enough.  Same exact result.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: UglyBat19 on March 11, 2008, 11:38:03 PM
Okay.  So that means that it's not the DVD drive because the separate VOB files contain the movie in it's entirety.  It's not the hard drive because there's plenty of space.  It's not Decrypter or ReJig because they are gathering the same exact result.  So that means it must be something with my computer.  That's strange.  Because in between posts, I was able to get 300 ripped and burned successfully as well as Harry Potter.  What's different now from then?  I'm going to need to experiment with this more.  Bye for now.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: JackTheRIFFER on March 15, 2008, 08:21:54 AM
I just started using the DVD creation method (I had problems with the "light" version) and I love it.  I've made about 15 disc now and they have all turned out very good.  This is the best way to watch rifftrax.  The only problem I have...  I have some of these on HDDVD which I can't rip, so I have to find someone with the regular DVDs that I can rip, mix, and reburn.  (Yeah, shut up, HDDVD is the new Betamax).
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: UglyBat19 on March 17, 2008, 03:20:14 PM
I feel like the biggest jackass in the universe!  It turns out the video was all there when I ripped it, but my media player wasn't timing it properly.  FACE ON ME!
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: JackTheRIFFER on March 20, 2008, 08:34:34 AM
I feel like the biggest jackass in the universe!  It turns out the video was all there when I ripped it, but my media player wasn't timing it properly.  FACE ON ME!

Hey, don't worry.  I wasted a few DVD's before I got it right.  In the first two, there were no audio.  In the next two, the audio synch was off.  But now I've got it down pat and do it without even reading the instructions.  Don't give up, it's totally worth it once you get it right!
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Blue Raja on March 21, 2008, 05:27:30 PM
I hate to bring this up, but I've recently tried using DVD Decrypter to rip Jurassic Park, but each time (2 separate tries with 2 separate discs), I keep getting an error when it gets around 30% of the way through!  It's worked fine for all the other movies, but for some reason, it just won't rip JP.  Anyone else have this problem, or know perhaps how to get around it? :-\

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Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: bettertomorrowamy on March 21, 2008, 06:39:00 PM
First thing I would check is if the disk is dirty, scratched, or damaged in some way. 
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Zandrax on March 23, 2008, 06:13:39 AM
Well, I'm finally porting over to Audacity after being ingrained in my Goldwave ways. I had been using Goldwave for karaoke purposes for years. But my unregistered version finally expired and it was either pay for a regular version, steal download a version, or simply use what everybody else seems to use and love.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Zandrax on March 24, 2008, 12:44:38 PM
One other thing I thought I'd mention, since I haven't seen much detail on it in this thread.

For those who want to keep the intros on their Rifftrax discs, I suggest just making the intro a separate movie, using DVDFlick to render it as a separate title, then simply dragging it in as the first title in DVDShrink. I tried that last night and got a perfectly working Transformers disc.

I may even start making intros and posting them in the appropriate forums for the titles, if there's any interest in that.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: bettertomorrowamy on March 24, 2008, 12:47:59 PM
What are you using as the video portion of the intro?  Just blank space?  It might be cool to put a stinger video there with the intro audio playing with it.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Zandrax on March 24, 2008, 12:53:23 PM
I usually just use one of the pics of Mike & Co. in getup for the appropriate movie being riffed. Usually just one picture for easy rendering. As I collect pictures though I may mix it up a bit.

But yeah, just a still picture with the audio intro track.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: bettertomorrowamy on March 24, 2008, 12:55:38 PM
I do that sometimes too.  I have used the donate picture with Mike the Hobo too.  So when I watch it with friends they remember to give to Rifftrax.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: bettertomorrowamy on March 24, 2008, 01:00:30 PM
...another thing I just started doing is mixing in the closing credit song from Deep Blue Sea where LL Cool J raps about how his hat is like a shark's fin as the closing credit song for all my Rifftrax re-authors.  Right after they do the end music and the big announcer voice says, "This has been a Rifftrax presentatation...etc.", I pop in the Deep Blue Sea end credits song.  It's pretty funny.  Or I put in the "Now You're A Man" song from Orgazmo there.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Zandrax on March 24, 2008, 01:41:41 PM
I haven't used music, but if I did it would probably be a loop of Brak singing "De Der Down" because I'm weird like that.

I'll probably start making stingers for after the credits too.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Zandrax on April 09, 2008, 08:02:21 AM
One thing I'd like to add is a trick I started using to prevent multiple discs burned for the same title.

ReJig does offer multiple audio tracks. So I just make multiple mixes in Audacity. One with the Riffing turned up, and one without. That way if there is a part where one overpowers the other (say in loud action scenes, or when the movie is particularly quiet in a talking sequence), the problem is usually solved with the push of an audio button.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: basselope on April 09, 2008, 08:35:30 AM
First post, and in keeping with tradition... Thank you SASD (and all the gurus) with every fiber of my being for this outstanding guide and a great thread! :clap: I read all 35 pages before my first purchase and completed my first Riff Disc (Potter-Sorcerers) in a day and with very little trouble.

[Zandrax]
That's not a bad idea! Beats the heck out of tweaking line-by-line in the audio edit phase.

Speaking of which, I've seen a few posts mention editing the levels of selected parts of a given audio track in Audacity. I've fiddled with it a bit and have googled for it but I'm not having any luck. Highlighting a section of a track and bumping the db seems to affect the entire track, not just the selected area.

Ideas?

Last question, Anybody know of decent Authoring software that lets you create oversized projects with menus and what-not? My plan was to simply "Shrink" it before burning. I've been using DVDWorkshop2, VideoStudio and DVDLabPro but none of them will this.

Thanks Y'all! This right here is what the world needs more of... getting together to poke fun at the unaware!  :highfive:
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: bettertomorrowamy on April 09, 2008, 11:40:15 AM
Import the movie's audio and the Rifftrax audio.  (make sure and take out the Disembaudio lines before hand with the help of the accompanying text file.)  Select all the Rifftrax track in Audacity, then go into the menu and click on auto-duck.  You'll need to tweak the settings to get it how you want it.  Experiment a few times with it until it is right for you.  It should take 15-20 minutes more or less to auto-duck the whole thing.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: basselope on April 09, 2008, 01:10:21 PM
Thx for the reply bettertomorrowamy.

So, auto-duck (only with 1.3 Beta, yes?) should be applied to the entire Rifftrax track? I'm guessing the feature works by only reducing the selected (in this case the Riff track) track's levels based on comparing them slice-by-slice to the concurrent levels in the remaining tracks. If that's the case, wouldn't the riff lines still be swamped by the louder portions of the movie audio?

Not trying to be difficult... I just have a knack for it.  ;D

BTW, I did follow the main guide and used BeSweet/BeLight, so as I understand it, the movie audio should have some amount of normalization before going into Audacity. There were just a few areas that drowned out the riff lines.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Zandrax on April 09, 2008, 04:39:39 PM
I've never cared for the ducking unless the timing is just right. But that's more personal preference than anything.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: RoninFox on April 09, 2008, 04:46:41 PM
So, auto-duck (only with 1.3 Beta, yes?) should be applied to the entire Rifftrax track? I'm guessing the feature works by only reducing the selected (in this case the Riff track) track's levels based on comparing them slice-by-slice to the concurrent levels in the remaining tracks. If that's the case, wouldn't the riff lines still be swamped by the louder portions of the movie audio?

The auto-duck feature goes through the tracks and when the one on the bottom (the riff) goes above a certain volume (whenever a riffer is speaking) it automatically lowers the volume of the upper track (the movie audio) to a certain level.  So the movie audio will fade to a lower volume as the riff plays, then fade back up again.  If done right it's barely noticeable (like it used to be with MST3K) the movie will sound normal, then the riff will be heard clearly as the volume changes, then comes back again just as quick, but if you set it too low, or have too long a lead in/out time on the fade you end up with a second or so warning of when a riff is coming.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: basselope on April 10, 2008, 04:27:34 AM
Hmmm... Yea, I'm not sure that would be better than what I have now. The project turned out better than I expected... there are only 4 or 5 places where the movie audio overpowers the riff, and maybe a couple of places where the riff is a bit piercing. All in all, quite nice.
So, you can't just select an area and adjust the level. Rats!

Okay, on to the next minor question. Is there some point during SASD's process, using the tools mentioned in the main guide, that chapters can be placed back on the disk? SASD mentioned using DVD Decrypter to snag the chapter information during the ripping process. Did that, got the file.... never used it. I have one giant chapter. I assumed that since the chapter info was set to "ifoedit" I would probably use it once I got to the ifoedit stage. I poked around in the menus, but being the rank amateur that I am, saw nothing that looked right. Not that big a deal, but I did get bitten last night. Paused the movie to let the dog out, came back and hit rewind... only it was the previous chapter button instead... RATS!! Luckily I have 128x fast forward so it wasn't too bad.

Thank you Gentlemen... you are a credit to your kind... what ever that may be.  ;D
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: RoninFox on April 10, 2008, 04:51:41 AM
So, you can't just select an area and adjust the level. Rats!

No one said you couldn't.  I prefer not to do that, because it took so dang long when I tried it, but if there's a part where the volume of the movie overpowers the riff you can easily just highlight that section of the movie in audacity and click effect-amplify and slide the bar it gives you to the left to make it a negative amplification, experiment using the preview button to see when you have the right level.

Okay, on to the next minor question. Is there some point during SASD's process, using the tools mentioned in the main guide, that chapters can be placed back on the disk? SASD mentioned using DVD Decrypter to snag the chapter information during the ripping process. Did that, got the file.... never used it. I have one giant chapter. I assumed that since the chapter info was set to "ifoedit" I would probably use it once I got to the ifoedit stage. I poked around in the menus, but being the rank amateur that I am, saw nothing that looked right.

When using IfoEdit after clicking "Author New DVD" the window should have places for Video, Audio, Subpicture (meaning subtitles if you have them), and Scene Changes/Chapters.  Click the button next to Scene Changes/Chapters and you should be able to select the Chapter Information file you got from the dvd.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: bettertomorrowamy on April 10, 2008, 04:55:00 AM
Hmmm... Yea, I'm not sure that would be better than what I have now. The project turned out better than I expected... there are only 4 or 5 places where the movie audio overpowers the riff, and maybe a couple of places where the riff is a bit piercing. All in all, quite nice.
So, you can't just select an area and adjust the level. Rats!


I would tweak the settings a little more next time, but each release seems to require minor tweaks in the amplitude of the Rifftrax audio.  You can select certain sections of the tracks and lower or raise the amplitude.  Most of the time I sync up the two tracks, auto-duck them, and then lower the amplitude of the Rifftrax track so that it is closer to the amplitude of the movie track so that the Rifftrax isn't insanely louder than the movie audio.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: basselope on April 10, 2008, 05:37:12 AM
Thanks Roninfox... that's what I was after. And I found this in my searches... a nice video tutorial (youtube style, so not too big... or too clear) http://www.mefeedia.com/entry/podcasting-howto-using-audacity-to-duck-music-behind-voice/6029408/ (http://www.mefeedia.com/entry/podcasting-howto-using-audacity-to-duck-music-behind-voice/6029408/)
Discusses Ducking, Fading, etc.

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...so that the Rifftrax isn't insanely louder than the movie audio.
yea, that was my first experience... I just about browned my shorts when the rifftrax intro music started up the first time in Audacity. I can see where manually adjusting the levels in an action movie or a non-normalized track could be maddening, but in this case I only have a handful of items to massage.
I have an ulterior motive as well. I've been collecting odds and ends from all over the net ( you gotta check out Possum Death Spree and HellHoles over at Atomfilms) and making my own little Drive-in themed DVDs. With almost 2 dozen source files on a single disc you can imagine the the kinds of potholes I hit. This thread has helped with a few of those that are still bugging me.

I also stumbled across an answer to another question about authoring oversized projects. ulead Video Studio 11 would bark when I wanted to render an oversized project out to folders by saying it "may" not burn correctly, but since I planned to use DVDShrink I would just go ahead as it was. Turns out that VS11 would just hack off the end of my project... a very unpleasant surprise after a 6 hour render and 2 hours of watching my pet on the widescreen only to have the last few minutes evaporate.
The solution (Duh!) change the target media settings to 8.5GB (dual layer) disc. I haven't tried it, but I expect the project will render and I can "Shrink" it as I had intended. VS11 can import just about any format (avi, mov, mpg, MP3, wav, AC3, etc) and does a much cleaner job of converting than other apps I've tried (such as Super)

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Click the button next to Scene Changes/Chapters and you should be able to select the Chapter Information file you got from the dvd
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Well no wonder I couldn't find it!!... how the heck are you supposed to see it when it's right there in the open like that?!?
(I gotta lay offa the Dew!)  :rimshot:

Thanks Y'all... I really appreciate your time... and your patience.  :)
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: SoiledShortz on April 27, 2008, 04:11:01 AM
Ok what the funk is up with the Casino Royale dvd??? I've successfully made about 15 rifftrax dvds following the guide with no more than a hiccup of a problem.

Enter 007. I cannot even rip the dang dvd. I've tried Decrypter and Rejig and neither seem to work... :angry: Pretty frusterating. Anybody have this problem or a way to fix it?

"Failed to parse IFO!" ????????

Help please

I've tried 2 copies of the dvd and neither work.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Ortega on April 27, 2008, 05:22:28 AM
Casino Royale has a very strong copy protection that DVD Decrypter can't crack

Here is what might help you:
http://forum.rifftrax.com/index.php/topic,3247.0.html

This thread pretty much sums up every tactic to reauthoring CR.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: SoiledShortz on April 27, 2008, 04:13:18 PM
Thank you.  :highfive: I will try that. Are there any more that do this that I should worry about?
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: SecretAgentSuperDragon on April 27, 2008, 08:33:47 PM
There are a couple others. Just search the tech support boards. They'll have threads dedicated to them.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: GroovyDave on May 09, 2008, 01:23:02 AM
I would tweak the settings a little more next time, but each release seems to require minor tweaks in the amplitude of the Rifftrax audio.  You can select certain sections of the tracks and lower or raise the amplitude.  Most of the time I sync up the two tracks, auto-duck them, and then lower the amplitude of the Rifftrax track so that it is closer to the amplitude of the movie track so that the Rifftrax isn't insanely louder than the movie audio.

SASD's guide has been invaluable for getting my riffs ready to be compiled into AVI files. However, I've got a different goal than reburning them to DVD's - I want a reasonably consistent audio level between the movie and the riff so I can set the levels and then let them run while I go to sleep or wander around the house or whatever. To that end, I've found that there are a couple things that are handy to look into:

-- Audio ducking so that the Rifftrax voices will always be audible over the movie soundtrack.
-- Changing the dynamics of the movie and riff so that you flatten it out into a fairly narrow range of sound.
-- Normalizing the audio to a particular level.
 
Folks seem to be happy with the GoldWave plugin and there appears to be a walkthrough for Audacity. I wrote one for Reaper, another audio tool, but I"m not happy with how I wrote it. I didn't document the steps very well since I am just using large chunks of the user manual they provide to do the ducking in the first place. However, I love how well it all works together for letting me do the dynamics expansion (and compression) to make the audio tracks into one homogenized mess of sound.

This is totally counter to notions of good audio design and would make the movie sound editor cry if they heard the result. But it works great for what I want -- a rifftrax that isn't going to blow my speakers out or wake up my housemates when they start firing hand grenades all over the place.

I'm thinking of rewriting the guide so that folks have this as a way to end up with an AVI file as their final result rather than a DVD. Thanks again for SuperDragon's excellent guide, it's made this process really easy. I'm so happy that tools exist now to make the other part of the process -- mixing the audio -- a simple procedure as well.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: pstokely on May 24, 2008, 12:55:25 AM
The audio of my reauthored copy of Batman & Robin is ahead of the video
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: bettertomorrowamy on May 24, 2008, 03:50:43 AM
You broke it.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: CHF01 on May 25, 2008, 12:56:32 PM
In ReJig, there is a PGC setting under the Copy Subtitle Colors option. This setting defaults to 0. When mutiplexing DVD VOBs, should this setting not be changed at all? I've scanned the multiple threads about DVD re-authoring and have not seen anything about this setting. Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! :)
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Ortega on May 27, 2008, 12:47:26 AM
yeah leave it alone.  Your best bet is to fix the subtitle color in IFO edit.  i might be repeating myself, but i'll do it anyway. 

1. Reauthor the DVD with the subtitles.

2. Load up IFO edit, and at the bottom, click the open tab, and chose the IFO of the ripped DVD.

3. You'll see a bunch of information on the DVD come up, but what you want to look for is at the top, and  click on VTS_PGCITI, which will open up a bunch of PGCs.  We only need one, so pick PGC 1.

4. at the top of the screen you'll see a tab that says Subtitle Color. Witht he PGC 1 highlighted clcik on it and click Copy Colors from this PGC.

5. Now clcik on the open tab again but this time, open the IFO of the reauthored DVD.  No repeat the steps, VTS_PGCITI, to PGC1, and goto the  Subtitle Color tab again, but this time, PASTE the colors.

Now click on the  Get VTS sectors tab, and after that, click save.

That should make sure the subtitle colors are the same as the real DVD's.

Hope that helped.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: CHF01 on May 27, 2008, 10:46:02 AM
It does, Ortega, thanks. What's with the prompts in IfoEdit to capitalize the file names?  ::)
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Ortega on May 27, 2008, 10:47:45 AM
What's with the prompts in IfoEdit to capitalize the file names?  ::)

Don't know.  I think its a German program, and you know how those Germans are......
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: ltmarcos on May 30, 2008, 08:37:53 PM
Thank you so much for posting this I had been looking for a way to do this
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: ltmarcos on June 07, 2008, 10:53:27 PM
I dont know about Menus, but you can keep the intro on the disc.

When you are synching with GW or Audacity, Before you cut the intro, copy it, and paste into a new project, then save as mp3.

Load the mp3 into Windows Movie Maker.

Drag the mp3 into the timeline, add a begginning credit scroll, and i usually load one of JP's posters into the time line as well.

Save the project as DV-AVI.

Take the created video file, adn load it into Nero Or Roxio or any burn program, and save to a dvd folder.

Then in DVDshrink, click the reauthor tab, and make the intro the fitst title, then the Riff'd movie as the second.

I tried this but all i get is the picture with no audio the only difference is I can't seem to figure out how to save as dv-avi and also i burn it in nero not dvd shrink
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Lemming Howard on June 08, 2008, 03:56:32 AM
I dont know about Menus, but you can keep the intro on the disc.

When you are synching with GW or Audacity, Before you cut the intro, copy it, and paste into a new project, then save as mp3.

Load the mp3 into Windows Movie Maker.

Drag the mp3 into the timeline, add a begginning credit scroll, and i usually load one of JP's posters into the time line as well.

Save the project as DV-AVI.

Take the created video file, adn load it into Nero Or Roxio or any burn program, and save to a dvd folder.

Then in DVDshrink, click the reauthor tab, and make the intro the fitst title, then the Riff'd movie as the second.

I tried this but all i get is the picture with no audio the only difference is I can't seem to figure out how to save as dv-avi and also i burn it in nero not dvd shrink



If you're using Nero you can create menus with Nerovision.    You add a poster as I like to do and it also lets you customize by selecting an audio file such as the saved intro.  Just be sure to click "Fit to adio duration to play the whole intro.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Turducken on June 18, 2008, 06:13:24 PM
wow this is no sunday picnic, wondering if it's worth it... .a few random thoughts here

I haven't had the time to read all the posts but wondering if anyone has found a method for including the rifftrax intros, i quite enjoy those....

these programs all seem like smaller pieces of a larger one.. is anyone using something like adobe premiere or final cut to ease some of these steps?

alot of dvd's i already backed up to a 'rifftrax' drive and are in ifo and vob files... is there any step i can skip by just using those instead of my dvd?

Seems like the audacity part is the least spoken about in the main guide on first page... and definitely took some time to figure out it's retarded controls...  plus the idea of having to grab dead air from a commentary seems backwards, ... can't you just slide something over to create silence like in normal editing programs...

arghh, matrix is my first try, almost done i 'll let you know how it went
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: RoninFox on June 18, 2008, 06:57:56 PM
wow this is no sunday picnic, wondering if it's worth it... .a few random thoughts here

I haven't had the time to read all the posts but wondering if anyone has found a method for including the rifftrax intros, i quite enjoy those....

I picked up from a few other people the idea of making a slideshow type thing with Windows Movie Maker using the audio from the intros.  Then you can save them, use a burning program like Roxio or Nero to make an IFO of them, then reauthor from there, in the end putting it on the disc in DVD shrink before the main movie so they'll play in order.

these programs all seem like smaller pieces of a larger one.. is anyone using something like adobe premiere or final cut to ease some of these steps?

That one I don't know about.

alot of dvd's i already backed up to a 'rifftrax' drive and are in ifo and vob files... is there any step i can skip by just using those instead of my dvd?

If you have a virtual drive program, you can mount an ifo to it and decript it just like it was the physical dvd.

Seems like the audacity part is the least spoken about in the main guide on first page... and definitely took some time to figure out it's retarded controls...  plus the idea of having to grab dead air from a commentary seems backwards, ... can't you just slide something over to create silence like in normal editing programs...

Yes, you can just slide the Rifftrax over using the double sided arrow control ( <--> ) on the toolbar.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Ortega on June 18, 2008, 07:09:40 PM
these programs all seem like smaller pieces of a larger one.. is anyone using something like adobe premiere or final cut to ease some of these steps?

alot of dvd's i already backed up to a 'rifftrax' drive and are in ifo and vob files... is there any step i can skip by just using those instead of my dvd?


I think the reason all of those little programs were chosen, was because with all the tools mentioned, everyone of them is freeware.  You probably might be able to accomplish all the tasks in one huge program, but more often than not, that type of program isn't cheap.



Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Turducken on June 18, 2008, 07:11:31 PM
wow thank you for the comprehensive response... still bogged down in getting the audio ready for full authoring, .. i saw it's size so small and figured it must be wrong...

Tried raising the bitrate, used that, but screwed up by not giving directory path, and thought i messed up by changing size, so now back to regular bitrate and ifo edit is outputting now lol.... we'll see if it works

****Was having major problems in Audacity trying to deal with sectioning off pieces of audio to raise or lower volume, idk if i'm used to higher end programs or what (haha i'm an editing elitist!) , but nothing i was doing seemed to work.   Wanted to be able to highlight certain sections and just raise/lower volume.  Nothing left any markers or such of my actions, so ... idk... this program doesn't like my brain.

Ortega - yeah i have adobe elements installed, but having used full premiere before, it sux... i hate when they make things so user friendly that i can't find any tools anymore

edit* - great now ifoedit just couldn't find a vob file that i dont' even think was in the list... maybe adding chapters killed me

edit#2* - using rejig now with same files and suddenly working,... possibly i forgot the ntsc pal switch

edit#3*- so it worked, thx guys ... my only issues now are fine tuning the audio in certain points

edit#4* - omg, i just realized this whole thread is just preparation for the coming apocalypse where we all end up editing audio for rifftrax! damn you ! you did it, didn't you!
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: hailxenu on June 19, 2008, 09:01:55 PM
I need to offer some payback for all those DVD covers and inkjet labels I've been printing (Epson R280 is highly recommended for printing on DVDs).

To re-author a DVD that includes a rifftrax audio file but otherwise exactly replicates the original DVD structure, including menus, audio files (if there is an extra audio file that can be replaced), and subtitles, you will need the following software:

PGCDemux  (http://download.videohelp.com/jsoto/tools/PgcDemux_1205_exe.zip)
IFOEdit  (http://download.videohelp.com/download/Ifoedit0971.zip)
VobBlanker  (http://download.videohelp.com/jsoto/VobBlanker/VobBlanker_2130_exe.zip)
DVDShrink  (http://www.mrbass.org/dvdshrink/dvdshrink32setup.zip)
DVDDecrypter or IMGBurn or other burning software

For the purposes of this guide, and considering the bulk of this thread so far, I will operate under the assumption that everyone knows how to create a synchronized audio file which combines the movie audio and the rifftrax audio.  I personally use DVD Decrypter to rip, DVD2AVI to create the audio file, and Audacity to sync the audio, mute the sync lines on the riff, adjust the levels, and create the new sound file.

Step One:  Rip the DVD to your computer

Using DVD Decrypter, DVD Fab Decrypter, Smartripper, or whatever your tool of choice happens to be, rip the entire DVD to a folder on your computer (which I’ve labeled “Rip”).  In DVD Decrypter, make sure you are in “File” mode to get the whole disc:

It may also be beneficial at this point to note the languages of each audio and subtitle stream.  After the rip is complete, change modes to “IFO” and select the stream processing tab in the upper right corner:

Cocktail, for example, is a relatively simple disc, with 6 channel audio in English, and English subtitles.


Step Two:  Demultiplex the VTS chain which contains the movie

Using PGCDemux, de-multiplex all video, audio, and subtitle streams in the VTS chain which contains the movie.  When converting Cocktail, for example, the movie is contained in VTS_01_1 through VTS_01_4.  It is very easy to identify the VTS chain that contains movie files - it is the chain with multiple VOB files at the maximum size of approimately 1 GB.  Open PGCDemux and load the IFO file for that VTS chain in “Input IFO” at the top, select a new save folder for the demux files (which I’ve labeled “TempVOB” in this example), and check “Demux Video Stream”:

Then “Process!”  When complete, close PGCDemux.


Step 3:  Re-multiplex the movie VTS chain with IFOEdit

Before the remux step, you need your synchronized rifftrax/movie audio file to add to IFOEdit.  In this example, I’ve created an AC3 file with ffmpeggui, a freeware program, and named it “Cocktail Riff Sync”.  Open IFOEdit, click “DVD Author”, and “Author New DVD”.  Load the video file from the TempVOB folder first.  When loading the audio files, load the files in the order that you want them to appear on the DVD.  In this example, I’ve loaded the rifftrax audio as the #1 audio file, and the regular audio as the #2 file.  I have not figured out how to add a new audio stream to the DVD – Cocktail only had 1 audio on the original, so this process is only going to replace that audio stream with the rifftrax sync audio.  However, if the DVD had multiple audio streams, one of them can be replaced by the Rifftrax sync audio (foreign language audio, for example).  If I figure out how to add an audio stream rather than replace, I’ll update this post.

To the left of the audio window and beneath the delay window is where you can set the language for each audio stream.  Load subtitles in the same manner.  Finally, load the file named “celltimes.txt” into the Scene Changes/Chapters window to insert the chapter breaks from the source DVD.

Select a folder for the output stream (“Remux” in this example), and press “OK”.  When everything has completed, close IFOEdit.


Step 4:  Replace original movie with version in “Remux” folder

Open VobBlanker and load the original movie from the “Rip” folder in the “Input Video Manager” cell.  Select an Output Folder as well (I’ve chosen “Final”).  Remember from Step 1 that the original movie was VTS_01.  Click on “VTS_01_*.VOB” in the “TitleSet” window, then select the first PGC in the “PGCs in Selected TitleSet” window. 
 
Click on “Replace” on the right side, and select the “VTS_01_0.IFO” file from the “Remux” folder to insert the new VTS chain into the DVD.  Now “Process!!” the new DVD.  This will create a DVD in selected folder which can be shrunk (if necessary) and burned.

This should complete the process.  Buy more rifftrax and repeat as necessary.

I originally wrote this with images to help illustrate the steps, and made some small edits to remove that info.  If this is excessively confusing, let me know and I'll try to clarify further.  Cocktail has worked perfectly so far, but the original is a very simple DVD.  Alien, on the other hand, contains both the Director's Cut and the Theatrical on the same VTS chain (VTS_02_1 throu 02_8), so replacement there seems to be a bit more complicated and has led to very small amounts of audio dropping on my first attempt.  I'll update this as necessary as I transfer my Rifftrax collection over to this new style.  If anyone else stumbles across any helpful changes, please pass them along.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: RoninFox on June 20, 2008, 05:49:32 AM
I don't think I've seen anyone else offer such a method, hail, and I think it would be much appreciated.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: CHF01 on June 21, 2008, 07:58:48 AM
I'm going to try this out with Over The Top and report back the results. Thanks hailxenu.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: hailxenu on June 21, 2008, 08:24:01 AM
I'm going to try this out with Over The Top and report back the results. Thanks hailxenu.

I'm trying this with 5-10 today also, since my life is a rich tapestry.  Converting the whole collection will be time-consuming.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: CHF01 on June 21, 2008, 10:00:22 AM
I'm going to try this out with Over The Top and report back the results. Thanks hailxenu.

I'm trying this with 5-10 today also, since my life is a rich tapestry.  Converting the whole collection will be time-consuming.

I'm just about near the of my collection conversion; only a handfull of titles left to reauthor. Just about midway finished with Goldwave editing of Over The Top...
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: hailxenu on June 21, 2008, 05:22:36 PM
Please let me know if Over the Top works for you.  So far, I've completed 16 re-authors, and the only discs I've had a problem with using this method are Independence Day, Matrix Reloaded, and Spider-man.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Turducken on June 23, 2008, 12:27:55 PM
I'm having a specific problem with Audacity.... i'm not seeing how you guys are sectioning off parts of the movie to lower db, for me all i can do is select that for the entire movie.   I feel like i've tried all the controls but might not be looking for the right thing.

* Oh also, when i import my mp3s into audacity they come up way louder than the movie.... not sure why some suggest raising riff by 3db when i have to lower it usually.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: bettertomorrowamy on June 23, 2008, 12:52:37 PM
Do you have the beta version of Audacity with the Auto-ducking feature.  That's what you wanna use.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Turducken on June 23, 2008, 12:58:42 PM
thx that's probably my issue.... i'm pretty sure i didn't download any betas ...they scare me
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: nxylas on June 23, 2008, 04:22:02 PM
Sorry if this has been posted already, I couldn't be bothered to read through an entire 37-page thread. I tried re-authoring Harry Potter/Sorcerer's Stone and was fine until i got to the Audacity part. I imported the WAV file into Audacity, and then did the same for the MP3, but the latter only appeared to be about 15 minutes long! Any ideas?

Also, this may appear to be a stupid question, but I'm a complete n00b at this, so please indulge me. The readme file for the film gives the start time as 0.16 for the movie and 2.12 for the Rifftrak (which I still maintain is the correct singular form of Rifftrax, so there :P). Is this the amount of time I need to cut from the beginning of each audio file? I assume it is, but you know what happens when you assume.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Nick on June 23, 2008, 10:18:33 PM
I have a question as well. I've decrypted the DVD, but when I go to delaycut, I can't find the audiofile where I sent the DVD files. What's going on?
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: RoninFox on June 24, 2008, 04:55:33 AM
nxylas, sounds to me like you don't have the complete MP3 file, could you have had an interrupted download or something?  Try downloading it again.  as for the time to cut, yeah you'll need to cut about 2 minutes, I wouldn't suggest cutting right at 2:12 without listening to it, as the times in the read-me can sometimes be off by a few seconds.  Go to about 2 minutes and listen for Mike's "one two three pause" cue, then cut out everything before it.

Warrior, when you selected your streams to decrypt (checking the boxes next to the video and audio listings you needed) did you right click on one and select "Set selected-demux"?  If you do that, you should get your audio and video as separate files, but if you forget it you'll get one file with everything mixed together.  Get the feeling that might be the problem.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Nick on June 24, 2008, 07:22:08 AM
I'll try that Ronin, thanks for the reply.  :)
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Nick on June 24, 2008, 10:57:49 AM
Gargh! I hate technology! How do I fucking use this audacity shit? I keep hitting cut, but it won't cut the fucking introduction for some reason!
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Ortega on June 24, 2008, 11:00:56 AM
do you have the track paused?  That might be why it won't let you cut.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Nick on June 24, 2008, 02:22:55 PM
I figured it out. I was successful. I'm very happy now.  ;D
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: nxylas on June 25, 2008, 06:32:38 PM
nxylas, sounds to me like you don't have the complete MP3 file, could you have had an interrupted download or something?  Try downloading it again. 
Did that, but I've noticed that if I import the movie audio, then the riff, Audacity cuts off the movie audio after 15 minutes. It doesn't seem to show the complete tracks for both movie and riff, whichever I import first.

I have to say, I'd appreciate a lot more detail in the Audacity section of the re-authoring guide. Audacity is a pretty scary-looking program if you've never used anything like it before, and it needs a step-by-step idiot's guide (The Audacity of Dopes?) to be able to use it properly.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: bettertomorrowamy on June 25, 2008, 06:38:37 PM
nxylas, sounds to me like you don't have the complete MP3 file, could you have had an interrupted download or something?  Try downloading it again. 
Did that, but I've noticed that if I import the movie audio, then the riff, Audacity cuts off the movie audio after 15 minutes. It doesn't seem to show the complete tracks for both movie and riff, whichever I import first.

I have to say, I'd appreciate a lot more detail in the Audacity section of the re-authoring guide. Audacity is a pretty scary-looking program if you've never used anything like it before, and it needs a step-by-step idiot's guide (The Audacity of Dopes?) to be able to use it properly.
Audacity Help Wiki (http://audacityteam.org/wiki/index.php?title=Tutorials)

Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: nxylas on June 26, 2008, 12:53:21 PM
[Audacity Help Wiki (http://audacityteam.org/wiki/index.php?title=Tutorials)


Many thanks. I'll have to try and find the time to study this stuff somehow.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: hailxenu on June 27, 2008, 05:53:44 PM
I'm going to try this out with Over The Top and report back the results. Thanks hailxenu.

You might have had some trouble with "Over the Top" with this method.  I know I did - IFOEdit kept shutting down when I tried to remux the VOB.  I finally got it to work by remuxing with Muxman (freeware version).
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: RoninFox on June 27, 2008, 06:33:19 PM
nxylas, sounds to me like you don't have the complete MP3 file, could you have had an interrupted download or something?  Try downloading it again. 
Did that, but I've noticed that if I import the movie audio, then the riff, Audacity cuts off the movie audio after 15 minutes. It doesn't seem to show the complete tracks for both movie and riff, whichever I import first.

I have to say, I'd appreciate a lot more detail in the Audacity section of the re-authoring guide. Audacity is a pretty scary-looking program if you've never used anything like it before, and it needs a step-by-step idiot's guide (The Audacity of Dopes?) to be able to use it properly.

That's a new one on me, which version of Audacity are you using?
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: hailxenu on June 28, 2008, 12:45:44 PM
Please let me know if Over the Top works for you.  So far, I've completed 16 re-authors, and the only discs I've had a problem with using this method are  Independence Day, Matrix Reloaded, and Spider-man.

I've completed 45 re-authors by demultiplexing and remultiplexing the original DVD, and Casino Royale, Alien, and Independence Day are the only ones I haven't solved yet.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: nxylas on June 29, 2008, 01:35:01 PM
That's a new one on me, which version of Audacity are you using?
1.2.6
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: pstokely on July 02, 2008, 12:15:19 AM
On Sixth Sense, the subtitles don't match the dialogue
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: MSTJedi on July 02, 2008, 07:27:24 PM
On Sixth Sense, the subtitles don't match the dialogue

I never have figured out a good way to make subs work. Tried a few programs and all of them had serious issues. One in particular didn't like NTSC movies.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: pstokely on July 03, 2008, 02:16:49 AM
On X Files Fight for the Future, the subtitle appear to he ahead of the dialogue. Anyway to fix this?
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: nifta on July 05, 2008, 01:57:56 AM
hello - long time mst3k fan, first time riff.. fiddler.. or something.

just wanted to say thanks to Largento for the step-by-step guide for using garageband on the mac.. i've only done roadhouse so far, but it was very straightforward. one thing i found... you don't actually need the step where by you chop off the rifftrax intro in a seperate app before importing it into garageband - you can do it all in GB. just import the rifftrax mp3, select it and the track waveform etc will appear in the bottom section. then simply go to the waveform, click and drag to select the intro region, cut and there we go (you'll probably want to zoom in etc to get the region just right). it doesn't affect the original mp3 either.

i never knew about GB's ducking feature.. how cool is that?

the only downside with GB is that it does create it's own versions of the audio files etc (which, if you save a project, are contained within the project package) and these tend to be large (my roadhouse project is around 2gig). something to be aware of.

i dunno if i'm dense and missed it somewhere,  but are the timings for the disembaudio announcements noted anywhere? i see chapter marker sync points, but it would be useful to also have the disembaudio points listed as well.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: RoninFox on July 05, 2008, 05:49:00 AM
The read-me files should all have a listing of  Disembaudio synch lines under the chapter stop listings.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Ortega on July 05, 2008, 08:57:51 AM
yeah, usually they are, but Roadhouse is the one title that dosent have the sync lines in the readme.  But, they are around.  One could click on a  link  (http://forum.rifftrax.com/index.php/topic,246.msg4583.html#msg4583), and maybe they might be taken to sync line of some kind.

Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: nifta on July 05, 2008, 09:41:41 AM
ahh, cunning. thanks for the info! sorry, i'm all rather new at this. roadhouse is my "first one", and i've been fumbling about in the dark, so to speak.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: RoninFox on July 05, 2008, 07:14:41 PM
Whoops, didn't bother to look at the Roadhouse file.  Haven't reauthored that one and that's usually the only reason I look up those files
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: pstokely on July 06, 2008, 08:08:41 AM
What discs of have had subtitle issues with?

I've had issues with
Batman & Robin
Transformers
Cloverfield
X Files: Fight for the Future
The Sixth Sense

The subtitles appear to be ahead of the dialogue

At least these have closed captioning
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Zandrax on July 16, 2008, 01:40:40 PM
My apologies if this question has been asked already.

Anybody know a good freebie PC program that will convert a DVD to AVI or even WMV? I ask because I'm experimenting with streaming my stuff to my Xbox 360, thus skipping a step.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: squeezy on July 30, 2008, 11:03:25 PM
I've found a quite easier way in OS X using Quicktime Pro. All you have to have is the digital copy of your movie, the mp3 of the Rifftrax, Quicktime Pro, and a few minutes to edit, and your done, with no encoding or anything. This is of course only good for a digital copy, encoding it to DVD would result in quality loss. But honestly, it takes no more than five minutes to do once you have everything you need.

Would anyone like to me post a tutorial, or does this infringe the rules in anyway?
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: mikeinsc81 on August 06, 2008, 12:39:44 AM
Hey all,

New to the forums, glad to have found this site... almost cried when I found out that the MST3K guys are still at it.  :)

So, uh... I already have an .avi of the movie I want to add the Rifftrax to (Chamber of Secrets), but not from ripping from a DVD.... *cough*.  But the instructions I've been reading on this thread are for ripping from DVDs.  Are there instructions for just taking an .avi and adding the Rifftrax .mp3 to it?  I've been grazing over the 39 pages to this thread, and haven't really come across a solution to my issue.  Have I missed it?

If someone could help me out, or point me to the page with the instructions, it'd be greatly appreciated.  Been trying to research this for a couple hours, it's making my brain hurt haha, so maybe if I've left out some information, let me know.  Thanx!
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Action Batch on August 06, 2008, 02:18:22 AM
Anybody know a good freebie PC program that will convert a DVD to AVI or even WMV?

A freebie, no. I use Clone DVD Mobile (http://www.slysoft.com/en/clonedvd-mobile.html) and it was worth every penny. Even though pennies are totally worthless.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: mikeinsc81 on August 06, 2008, 02:23:18 AM
Sorry, the edit post button's not working for me



I read the post earlier about using Nero 6.  I have Nero 8, the movie-making program that comes with it is NeroVision 5.  I was able to Open the .avi file.  Then I find the Rifftrax .mp3 and Open that as well (before I drag n drop each of them to the Timeline at the bottom of the screen, in order to tool around with them to sync them up).  The thing is that NeroVision is saying that the Rifftrax mp3 has exactly half the runtime than it should be.  In this case the actual runtime is 2:34:31, but NeroVIsion says it's 1:17:15.  Weird, huh?
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Zandrax on August 10, 2008, 02:44:27 PM
Again, I'm sorry if this has been dealt with.

I just purchased all the shorts and am ready to put them all on one DVD. Now I could make them all separately and they would play, but I don't think the chapter skip function would work. Does one of these programs allow you to put each short as a chapter, thus allowing for easy skipping to?
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Zandrax on August 11, 2008, 04:41:28 AM
Never mind. I answered my own question. I forgot that DVD Flick has an option to create new chapter with each new video source.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Lyna on September 15, 2008, 05:12:52 PM
I'm having a burning problem.

As in, it won't burn at all. I followed the full guide to the letter, and everything's gone really well up until the burning process. DVD Decrypter opens up to start burning, and I get... this.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/Libertis/errorscreen.jpg)

Does anyone have any idea what the effing problem could be?
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: David on October 14, 2008, 12:54:58 PM
You ever burned anything? Your burner might suck. Or the disc might suck. I've had a dud disc now and again.

My problem is with those annoying black bars at the top and bottom. I'm using windows movie maker to make an Intro and a Stinger. I use WMM to edit, and DVDFlick to import the WMV for conversion to a DVD folder... but somewhere along the line it insists on making it 4x3 and putting black bars on the top and bottom. I've tried selecting 16x9 for the titles on DVDFlick but it adds side bars instead of stripping the top and bottom bars. I have a widescreen TV!

Is there any way to change a movie from 4x3 to 16x9, stripping off the black bars (or whatever's at the top and bottom for that matter)?
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: bettertomorrowamy on October 14, 2008, 01:00:14 PM
If it's 4x3, wouldn't it have to end up 16x12?
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Ortega on October 28, 2008, 12:48:20 PM
when you're making the intro or stinger in Movie Maker, set the settings to 16:9, then the source video will be the right ratio.  and FYI, convert to DV-NTSC instead of WMV, as the quality will be better.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: David on October 28, 2008, 01:47:54 PM
when you're making the intro or stinger in Movie Maker, set the settings to 16:9, then the source video will be the right ratio.  and FYI, convert to DV-NTSC instead of WMV, as the quality will be better.

I drag in a VOB, go to the properties, and it's 720x480. It doesn't let me change it. I can change "preview" aspect ratio to 16x9 but it still exports a 4x3 box. Also it won't let me save it to the hard drive as anything but a WMV. DV-NTSC requires me to put in a disc. Maybe I have the wrong version of movie maker? (Vista x64)
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: BizarroBeachHead on October 28, 2008, 06:45:57 PM
Hey guys,

I've never had any problems using SASD's guide on my old computer.  But I recently got a new one, and am experiencing a confusing problem.  I have no problems ripping the video, audio, mixing etc.  But when I go to reauthor it all together in rejig, it messes up.  It "authors" the dvd, but doesn't actually make the whole dvd.  It gives me 508 MB of files, which amounts to one or two .vob's that are a few seconds of black screen.

I've never had this problem before.  I hope it's not something with Vista, I've been having problems with it for some other programs.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: bettertomorrowamy on October 28, 2008, 06:47:42 PM
Sounds like a Vista problem.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: jasimon1 on November 18, 2008, 10:05:59 PM
I need some help. I'm trying to reauthor Pirates. Everything seems to go fine until I try to put the audio and the video back together. The first time I tried, Rejig errored so I tried it again and get the same thing. I then opened the file Regij gave me when I demuxed and it's compressed the video into about 43 min. I try to demux the video again and get the same thing with Rejig. I try to demux with DVD Decrypter and get the same thing. Anyone have any ideas why it would be doing that? Any solutions you could come up with?
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: MSTJedi on November 19, 2008, 05:58:17 AM
For some reason, when you try to view a demuxed video file, it will run faster than it's supposed to when you try to view it.

If it's actually listed that there's only 43 minutes of video, you might need to put the DVD onto your hard disk using a program that will take all the copy protection out, like DVDFab (the freeware version). Then you can demux the video and audio.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: jasimon1 on November 19, 2008, 07:10:53 AM
For some reason, when you try to view a demuxed video file, it will run faster than it's supposed to when you try to view it.

If it's actually listed that there's only 43 minutes of video, you might need to put the DVD onto your hard disk using a program that will take all the copy protection out, like DVDFab (the freeware version). Then you can demux the video and audio.

It's actually listed at 43 minutes and if I try to put the video back together with the audio, it errors when it gets to the point that there is no video but still audio (I assume since it's just around the half way point).

I tried ripping the DVD to my hard drive and then demuxing but no such luck. Same thing happens.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: MSTJedi on November 19, 2008, 08:45:17 PM
Hmm . . . I'm not sure what's going on there. Pirates worked fine for me once I got rid of the copyright stuff. Which program are you using to demux off of the files on your hard drive?

I use an older freeware program called SmartRipper to demux off the hard drive since DVD Decrypter will only work on a disc in IFO mode.

You can get it here:

http://download3.videohelp.com/SmartRipper241.zip (http://download3.videohelp.com/SmartRipper241.zip)
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: jasimon1 on November 19, 2008, 08:56:56 PM
I've tried Rejig and DVD Decrypter plus about a dozen demuxers I found online. Stuff like this drives me crazy until I figure it out. I'm going to try the one you suggested and hopefully that will work. If not, I'm not sure what I can do.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: MSTJedi on November 19, 2008, 09:00:09 PM
I know what you mean. It used to drive me nuts that I couldn't get subtitles to work. Now I know that I can fix the palette manually using IfoEdit if they end up green or blue.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: jasimon1 on November 19, 2008, 09:26:23 PM
Well that didn't do anything different. So frustrating! I'm going to rent a copy tomorrow and see if it's something with my DVD.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Ortega on November 19, 2008, 09:30:51 PM
you've got two options.

First, when you first startup Rejig, you'll see a box that says settings.  under the box that says " ReQuant Engine", change it to the opposite of whatever engine your using.  See if Rejig stops sassing you back.

Have you tried remuxing with IFOedit?  Usually when ever i run into a title the Rejig craps out on, IFOedit will tend to accomplish it.

Hope this helps...
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: jasimon1 on November 20, 2008, 10:15:58 AM
you've got two options.

First, when you first startup Rejig, you'll see a box that says settings.  under the box that says " ReQuant Engine", change it to the opposite of whatever engine your using.  See if Rejig stops sassing you back.

Have you tried remuxing with IFOedit?  Usually when ever i run into a title the Rejig craps out on, IFOedit will tend to accomplish it.

Hope this helps...

Thanks for the help but niether of those worked either. I'm crossing my fingers it's a dvd issue and once I rent one tonight, everything will be fine.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: MSTJedi on November 20, 2008, 07:24:04 PM
you've got two options.

First, when you first startup Rejig, you'll see a box that says settings.  under the box that says " ReQuant Engine", change it to the opposite of whatever engine your using.  See if Rejig stops sassing you back.

Have you tried remuxing with IFOedit?  Usually when ever i run into a title the Rejig craps out on, IFOedit will tend to accomplish it.

Hope this helps...

Funny enough, IFoEdit has been crapping out on me during remuxing lately, so I have to use Muxman now. At least something works, right?
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: xrampage16 on November 24, 2008, 03:22:56 PM
What version of IFOEdit are you running?

Generally if IFOEdit crashes, there is a problem having to do with the DVD, either during the ripping session, or that the DVD authoring was done in a whacky manner.

Ifoedit, while being a great program for editing and fixing up your videos, can be a total pain.

Is Muxman free? I've never worked with it.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: MSTJedi on November 25, 2008, 05:50:32 PM
The version of Muxman I have (0.16) is free. I think they're up to version 2 now, but the early, pre-commercial version is still free. It's a lot like IfoEdit when it comes to DVD authoring, but doesn't have all the other modes, just the remuxing. I still use IfoEdit to, well, edit my IFOs whenever the subtitle palette is off.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Doctor Manhattan on December 09, 2008, 10:26:50 AM
Anyone else having an issue using DVD Decrypter on The Dark Knight?
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Compound on December 09, 2008, 11:23:10 AM
At IFO.5? Yep.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Doctor Manhattan on December 09, 2008, 01:34:21 PM
Glad to see it's not just me. I found info about it here:http://forum.rifftrax.com/index.php/topic,12003.0.html (http://forum.rifftrax.com/index.php/topic,12003.0.html).
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Axnollouse on December 12, 2008, 04:56:49 PM
I guess I will post this in here as well, I require the audio delays for The Day After Tomorrow(Two Disc) and The Happening because when I use ReJig the times go all kinds of poof on me. Thanks!
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: bratpop on December 12, 2008, 06:46:40 PM
Nobody knows how to "give" you "audio delays." Are you from Canada or something?
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: xrampage16 on December 16, 2008, 10:29:36 AM
If you use DVD Decrypter, the audio delays are usually posted as part of the file name when you rip the audio stream.

Other programs that you use to demux and remux will handle these delays for you automatically.

but if you use IFOEdit to fix your DVD and remux, then you will manually have to input the delay.

I'd attempt to just use DVD Decrypter, set it to IFO mode, save it out as streams, and select your audio streams.  Should create the AC3 file for you, with the delay built into the name, and you're good to go there.

Hell, you could just start the process, and cancel out, and save the incomplete files. It should have the name right away.

Are there other ways to do it, yep. Do I remember them off the top of my head? Nope... sorry.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Axnollouse on December 16, 2008, 06:45:19 PM
Well thanks for the help, I use ReJig and Decrypter for my DVD's and the times aren't posting for those two movies. Today I just rented The Happening from RedBox (maybe it was my DVD i thought) and this is what I ended up getting in my filename via ReJig:

AC3_Audio_0xBD_0x80_Delay_0ms_fixed.ac3
and with my DVD:
AC3_Audio_0xBD_0x80_Delay_0ms_CorrectedTo0ms.ac3

but the fixed one worked! And I was happy.

Then 10 min later i got this with Harry Potter 3 with no settings changed:
AC3_Audio_0xBD_0x80_Delay_-67ms_CorrectedTo0ms.ac3

So I assume it has something to do with my Happening DVD but I guess I have to wait at this point for my rental of The Day After Tomorrow to see if it my disc as well which I would be pissed over being I bought the Steelbook of it for an extra $5.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: xrampage16 on December 17, 2008, 12:51:04 PM
The happening

AC3_Audio_0xBD_0x80_Delay_0ms_fixed.ac3
0ms delay

Harry Potter
AC3_Audio_0xBD_0x80_Delay_-67ms_CorrectedTo0ms.ac3
-67 second delay

I don't quite understand the problem now

Well thanks for the help, I use ReJig and Decrypter for my DVD's and the times aren't posting for those two movies. Today I just rented The Happening from RedBox (maybe it was my DVD i thought) and this is what I ended up getting in my filename via ReJig:

AC3_Audio_0xBD_0x80_Delay_0ms_fixed.ac3
and with my DVD:
AC3_Audio_0xBD_0x80_Delay_0ms_CorrectedTo0ms.ac3

but the fixed one worked! And I was happy.

Then 10 min later i got this with Harry Potter 3 with no settings changed:
AC3_Audio_0xBD_0x80_Delay_-67ms_CorrectedTo0ms.ac3

So I assume it has something to do with my Happening DVD but I guess I have to wait at this point for my rental of The Day After Tomorrow to see if it my disc as well which I would be pissed over being I bought the Steelbook of it for an extra $5.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Axnollouse on December 18, 2008, 03:32:38 PM
The problem was that there was a delay and the program acted differently for The Happening than it did for Harry Potter 3. It seems to me it auto fixed The Happening and just gave me the delay for Harry Potter 3
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: stm68 on December 24, 2008, 08:37:03 PM
For those of you interested in putting the riff-track on the rear surround-sound speakers, here's the procedure I used with free software.  I really like this system because you can control the volume of the riff separately using your receiver surround sound settings.

- do steps 1 and 2 in the official guide above (rip DVD files and fix audio track, you should read full official guide to get details on the full process)

- download Audacity 1.3.6 (I got it from audacity.sourceforge.net)

- go to Edit|Preferences, Import/Export tab, download FFmpeg library

- on same tab, in box "When exporting tracks to an audio file", choose "Use custom mix"

- load in fixed AC3 file (from step 2 in official guide), it should load in 6 channels which I believe are: left, center, right, rear-left, rear-right, subwoofer

- import rifftrax mp3 file, should load as track #7

- in Edit|Preferences, Quality tab, set sampling defaults to 48,000 Hz and 16-bit (default for DVD AC3)

- align rifftrax (channel 7) with main audio (channel #2) using time shift, silence sections as desired, copy/paste silent portion to the end (join any splits)

- select entire movie track, all 7 channels, from beginning of DVD audio (the rifftrax will start earlier if you used the time shift method above)

- select File|export selection and choose WAV format

- click OK on the Edit Metadata screen if it appears (there's an option to make it not appear)

- on the Advanced Mixing Options screen, choose 6 channel output and map the tracks (by clicking diagram) as follows:

   1st track (left) to channel 1
   2nd track (center) to channel 3
   3rd track (right) to channel 2
   4th track (rear-left) to none
   5th track (rear-right) to none
   6th track (subwoofer) to channel 4
   7th track (riff) to channel 5 and channel 6

* this ordering is necessary because the next step changes the order, and this makes it go back to the original DVD order

- use AftenGui (with aften.exe, I got both from videohelp.com) to encode the 6-channel WAV into 5.1 AC3 (I used all the defaults)

- use the newly created AC3 to make DVD folder with IFOedit or rejig (step 6 in official guide)

- option A: use DVD shrink to make iso file for burning (final step in the official guide)

- option B: use ConvertXToDVD (commercial software) to make DVD file with a menu screen (and shrink to fit on single-sided DVD); then use imgtool.exe to create iso file for burning

Good luck!
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: netrage on December 25, 2008, 02:14:01 PM
Transformers

Ok, I've got everything else figured out but my big problem is EVERY time I've tried to put the audio back with the video, it ends up all WAY out of sync and I can't figure out why. I've tried Simple DVD Creator, Muxman, IFOedit. It doesn't seem to matter. When I ripped it from the DVd, there was nothing to indicate there was a delay.

I'm stumped, anyone got any ideas?
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: iv3rdawG on December 30, 2008, 06:57:04 PM
Just wanted to say thanks for a great guide.

(http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/4793/graduationfw6.jpg)
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: elcatch22 on January 06, 2009, 04:42:01 PM
Great guide! Thanks!

I do, however, have a question.  I saw that it was asked on page 6 by Sun:

Quote
Ok, I'm a total noob at this.   I DL DVDShrink 3.2 and it's says I need "Nero" in order to burn the movie onto a DVD.  Am I doing something wrong?

But I never saw a response after hunting through the next 7 or so pages or running a search.  This is probably because he stated that the problem solved itself.  It hasn't for me and so any advice would be appreciated.

My problem is that in DVDShrink 3.2 under the tab "Select Backup Target" I can choose "Iso Image File" but not "Iso Image File and burn with DVD Decrypter" as the guide suggests I should select.

What am I missing? 
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: iv3rdawG on January 06, 2009, 10:06:01 PM
As it seems like on the last page I'm having trouble getting Pirates working too. Everything works fine mostly. I'm able to put the Riff and the Audio together, the video extracts fine, etc. up until I have to put the new AC3 riff, the old AC3 audio, the video and the chapters into Rejig and it looks like it does everything fine but when I go into DVDShrink I click on "Open Files", go to the Video_TS file click it and it doesn't do anything. It says the main movie is like 0.46 MB and if I try and click Backup and do the normal ISO Image File and Burn with DVD Decrypter, press OK and it wont do it. Any suggestions? :-\

*edit* Fixed it :)
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Thrifty on January 07, 2009, 01:47:52 PM
Great guide! Thanks!

I do, however, have a question.  I saw that it was asked on page 6 by Sun:

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Ok, I'm a total noob at this.   I DL DVDShrink 3.2 and it's says I need "Nero" in order to burn the movie onto a DVD.  Am I doing something wrong?

But I never saw a response after hunting through the next 7 or so pages or running a search.  This is probably because he stated that the problem solved itself.  It hasn't for me and so any advice would be appreciated.

My problem is that in DVDShrink 3.2 under the tab "Select Backup Target" I can choose "Iso Image File" but not "Iso Image File and burn with DVD Decrypter" as the guide suggests I should select.

What am I missing? 

You'll need to download Nero.  It will burn in DVD Decrypter, sorta.  You'll see the progress bar in DVD Decrypter, but it will still use Nero to burn.  The strange thing is that even after the trial period of Nero expires and you can't launch it any more on its own, DVD Decrypter can still use it to do the burning.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: hailxenu on January 07, 2009, 03:05:17 PM
Great guide! Thanks!

I do, however, have a question.  I saw that it was asked on page 6 by Sun:

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Ok, I'm a total noob at this.   I DL DVDShrink 3.2 and it's says I need "Nero" in order to burn the movie onto a DVD.  Am I doing something wrong?

But I never saw a response after hunting through the next 7 or so pages or running a search.  This is probably because he stated that the problem solved itself.  It hasn't for me and so any advice would be appreciated.

My problem is that in DVDShrink 3.2 under the tab "Select Backup Target" I can choose "Iso Image File" but not "Iso Image File and burn with DVD Decrypter" as the guide suggests I should select.

What am I missing? 

You'll need to download Nero.  It will burn in DVD Decrypter, sorta.  You'll see the progress bar in DVD Decrypter, but it will still use Nero to burn.  The strange thing is that even after the trial period of Nero expires and you can't launch it any more on its own, DVD Decrypter can still use it to do the burning.

That may not be the case.  I've never had Nero on my current computer, but I haven't had a problem burning with DVD Shrink and DVD Decrypter.  Maybe the install of the DVDFab burning engine from an earlier version accomplishes the same thing?
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Ortega on January 07, 2009, 03:10:49 PM
When you make the image file with DVD SHrink, you have the option of either burning with Nero, DVD Decrypter, or just making an image file.  I've been able to go straight from DVD Shrink right into Burn Mode on DVD Decypter without having Nero installed.  Most of the time, i just make an image file first, without burning, load the ISO into one of my virtual drives, and check the quality/see if the subtitles came out OK, then i'll start up DVD Decrypter, and use the ISO Burn Mode.  From my experience, you don't need Nero to burn with DVD Decypter.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: xrampage16 on January 13, 2009, 02:35:12 PM
If you have an ISO of the completed file, just go and download the free version of DVD Decrypter, and burn it onto a DVD using that program. It's free, it's easy, and it works great
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Alleged on January 20, 2009, 09:21:45 PM
I've been capturing in analog (and mixing audio, and reauthoring)  for a couple of years now, with no real motivation to join the 21st century  and reauthor using SASD's methods.

The barrier?  I strongly dislike working in Audacity - long load times, just plain bad luck with instability in my particular system.

I can report that if you, for whatever reason, have access to Adobe Premiere, it is more than adequate as an audio mixer.  Yes, I actually captured DVDs in analog, which to my eye is perfectly acceptable for riffing.   PCX seems to convert .ac3 to .wav very nicely, and ffmpeggui goes the opposite direction in a very spiffy fashion. 

I purchased the "Halloween" rifftrax a couple of years ago, and never got around to authoring it (doing everything in analog makes me think long and hard before I take on a video editing project).  I reauthored a disc in a little more than an hour, following SASD venerable (and quite good) directions.

Included in my process:

1.  A two minute "intro" video with the first two minutes of the Rifftrax over the animated Mike .gif - it segues directly into the feature.
2. A separate audio track with Carpenter's commentary.
3.  A  third audio track with the DD 5.1 audio.

I'll still do the analog method - having access to a huge LD collection sometimes gives me a break from having to purchase/rent a DVD - but I'm starting to think I like the digital age better.

All of this in about 1/3 of the time.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: xrampage16 on January 21, 2009, 02:32:03 PM
But it's analog!
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Alleged on January 22, 2009, 11:26:43 AM
But it's analog!

Yes, but analog is decidedly more BOLD than digital.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: bettertomorrowamy on January 22, 2009, 01:10:13 PM
But it's analog!

Yes, but analog is decidedly more BOLD than digital.

....for me to poop on.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Alleged on January 22, 2009, 08:47:55 PM
But it's analog!

Yes, but analog is decidedly more BOLD than digital.

....for me to poop on.

...the hell...?
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: RVR II on January 22, 2009, 08:52:58 PM
But it's analog!

Yes, but analog is decidedly more BOLD than digital.

....for me to poop on.

...the hell...?
He's looking for a better place to deficate other than a corn field.. :-X
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: MSTJedi on January 23, 2009, 07:11:27 AM
But it's analog!

Yes, but analog is decidedly more BOLD than digital.

....for me to poop on.

...the hell...?

http://www.youtube.com/v/sKtFtbOiNks&hl=en&fs=1
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Wernski on March 12, 2009, 03:07:02 AM
Tried making my first DVD following these steps and failed.   :(

I got to step 6, but then...
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Open up DVD Shrink, and click the Open Files button. Find your newly authored files folder, select Video_TS, and click OK.
...There is no Video_TS to select.  I'm not sure if you mean an actual Video_TS file in the output folder (there isn't one, it only made a .VOB file) or some kind of "Video_TS" option in the program (can't find such a thing, and believe me, I've looked!), but neither seems to be an option.

What's more, I decided to play that .VOB file to see how I was coming along, and discovered that:
A) the audio was out of sync.  Not the Riftrax, but the whole audio file... i.e. the characters were lips didn't match what they were saying.
and
B) it was in the wrong aspect ratio.  Somewhere along the line this 2.35:1 movie wound up transforming to about 1.85:1.

I painstakingly followed the steps detail-by-detail.  I can't find anyplace I might've gone wrong, but I sure have and can't figure it out after spending all night on it.

I'm a big MST3K, CinTan, & Film Crew fan and always avoided Rifftrax because I was afraid this would happen, and now that I've finally bitten the bullet, it has.  Very frustrating.  Anybody have any ideas on what the problem could be?
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: bettertomorrowamy on March 12, 2009, 03:17:51 AM
You didn't follow the guide as painstakingly as you think I'd say.  I'd use the Rifftrax Lite guide if you didn't already.
It's really not that hard to reauthor once you figure out what you did wrong.  Trial and error.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Bairman on March 12, 2009, 06:46:25 AM
Check the child board for the movie you're working on too.  Sometimes there are posts there that deal with reauthoring that particular movie.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Thrifty on March 12, 2009, 11:45:51 AM
Tried making my first DVD following these steps and failed.   :(

I got to step 6, but then...
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Open up DVD Shrink, and click the Open Files button. Find your newly authored files folder, select Video_TS, and click OK.
...There is no Video_TS to select.  I'm not sure if you mean an actual Video_TS file in the output folder (there isn't one, it only made a .VOB file) or some kind of "Video_TS" option in the program (can't find such a thing, and believe me, I've looked!), but neither seems to be an option.

What's more, I decided to play that .VOB file to see how I was coming along, and discovered that:
A) the audio was out of sync.  Not the Riftrax, but the whole audio file... i.e. the characters were lips didn't match what they were saying.
and
B) it was in the wrong aspect ratio.  Somewhere along the line this 2.35:1 movie wound up transforming to about 1.85:1.

I painstakingly followed the steps detail-by-detail.  I can't find anyplace I might've gone wrong, but I sure have and can't figure it out after spending all night on it.

I'm a big MST3K, CinTan, & Film Crew fan and always avoided Rifftrax because I was afraid this would happen, and now that I've finally bitten the bullet, it has.  Very frustrating.  Anybody have any ideas on what the problem could be?

The VIDEO_TS folders should be produced by your reauthor program, either Rejig or IFO Edit (depending on which guide you're using).  I've seen Rejig give me that kind of trouble before.  What program are you using?  What movie is it?  That could be important.  I've had a few movies go nuts in Rejig during the creation of the VIDEO_TS folders and the IFO files.

It's also possible that the VIDEO_TS folder was created, but it's not where you're looking.  Some programs will create a VIDEO_TS in a default location that may be separate from where the rest of your files are.  Pay attention to where you're asking it to place the reauthored files.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Thrifty on March 12, 2009, 12:21:57 PM
Also I'll add that reauthoring is fun to some, as a hobby, but too much of a pain for others, even diehard Rifftrax fans.  I've had some real challenges from movies that would only demultiplex part of the movie in the first phase (X-Men 2, Jaws) to movies that would create only a partial IFO Video_TS file when reauthored (Dark Water, Missile to the Moon) to movies that had some extra copy protection on them (Casino Royale, The Dark Knight) to movies that weren't even available on DVD (Star Wars Holiday Special, The Incredible Hulk Final Round).  They can be frustrating, but it's a great hobby.  If it gets to be to much for you, I reccomend the Rifftrax Player.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Action Batch on March 12, 2009, 02:40:16 PM
He's right. I like the challenge it poses. For me it's like a puzzle of sorts. Sometimes the pieces just aren't coming together, but I usually figure it out. If you don't dig that brand of frustration, the DVD Player is probably the way to go.

A little off topic.

Incredible Hulk: The Final Round / Season 1 (http://www.amazon.com/Incredible-Hulk-Complete-First-Season/dp/B000FDDYPA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1236893745&sr=8-1) Episode 1 Disc 1.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: dejahthoris78 on March 12, 2009, 07:19:59 PM
Ok I a mom with kids and we adore mst3k and I do not have time to figure this all out. We have been mst3k fans since the 90's. We want to do Rifftrax and I am good at computers, am a professional and all that rot, and took an hour to figure it out and had to unzip it instead of using the rifftrax player because that was all mucked up and would not work and it still would never sync and so we wasted our money (3.99). But we loved the short we bought for 99 cents. Per usual it about killed us and made us pee our pants  I will get more of those. Please make it easier to sync this. Again I want to stress how much we love mst3k and do not blame the boys. We are utterly thrilled they are back . They brought us immeasurable joy through the years.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: RoninFox on March 12, 2009, 07:47:36 PM
So no matter how many times you tried to pause the track or the movie it kept going out of sync?  Are you sure you got the right version of the riff for your dvd?  (NTSC for North America or PAL for most everyone else)
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: bettertomorrowamy on March 12, 2009, 07:49:28 PM
Ok I a mom with kids and we adore mst3k and I do not have time to figure this all out. We have been mst3k fans since the 90's. We want to do Rifftrax and I am good at computers, am a professional and all that rot, and took an hour to figure it out and had to unzip it instead of using the rifftrax player because that was all mucked up and would not work and it still would never sync and so we wasted our money (3.99). But we loved the short we bought for 99 cents. Per usual it about killed us and made us pee our pants  I will get more of those. Please make it easier to sync this. Again I want to stress how much we love mst3k and do not blame the boys. We are utterly thrilled they are back . They brought us immeasurable joy through the years.

You don't HAVE to reauthor the movies at all.  All you have to do is put the dvd in your player, play the .mp3 file on your computer or stereo or whatever you want, listen to the prompts that Mike gives, and then start the movie when they say to. 
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Wernski on March 13, 2009, 02:44:24 AM
Ok, thanks for the replies, guys... I appreciate any help you guys can offer on setting me straight.

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You didn't follow the guide as painstakingly as you think I'd say.  I'd use the Rifftrax Lite guide if you didn't already.
It's really not that hard to reauthor once you figure out what you did wrong.  Trial and error.
Well, evidently you are correct.  But I mean, I spent many hours reading and re-reading each step, trying each step multiple times, etc.
I tried the Lite version first, but I actually tried both versions and got stuck in basically the same place.

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The VIDEO_TS folders should be produced by your reauthor program, either Rejig or IFO Edit (depending on which guide you're using).  I've seen Rejig give me that kind of trouble before.  What program are you using?  What movie is it?  That could be important.  I've had a few movies go nuts in Rejig during the creation of the VIDEO_TS folders and the IFO files.

It's also possible that the VIDEO_TS folder was created, but it's not where you're looking.  Some programs will create a VIDEO_TS in a default location that may be separate from where the rest of your files are.  Pay attention to where you're asking it to place the reauthored files.
I used both, but spent the most time using Rejig and following the Lite guide.
The movie is Spider-man (the first one).
The re-author asked me to name the output folder (which I think I just named "output"), and it put a .VOB file inside that folder.  Are you saying if I re-mane the folder "VIDEO_TS" that would work?  I think the next step was asking me for a file, not a folder, but I'll definitely give that a shot if you think it might work.

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Also I'll add that reauthoring is fun to some, as a hobby, but too much of a pain for others, even diehard Rifftrax fans.  I've had some real challenges from movies that would only demultiplex part of the movie in the first phase (X-Men 2, Jaws) to movies that would create only a partial IFO Video_TS file when reauthored (Dark Water, Missile to the Moon) to movies that had some extra copy protection on them (Casino Royale, The Dark Knight) to movies that weren't even available on DVD (Star Wars Holiday Special, The Incredible Hulk Final Round).  They can be frustrating, but it's a great hobby.  If it gets to be to much for you, I recommend the Rifftrax Player.
Oh. it's no fun for me at all!  It's one notch above painful dentistry for me.  It's just the sad, necessary evil of Rifftrax (don't get me wrong, I understand legally why they can't just sell you proper DVDs of the Rifftrax'd films, and am not asking them to.  Really, that's why I've followed MST3K, CinTan and Film Crew but never Rifftrax up till now).

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So no matter how many times you tried to pause the track or the movie it kept going out of sync?  Are you sure you got the right version of the riff for your dvd?  (NTSC for North America or PAL for most everyone else)
Yeah, it's out of sync consistently throughout the entire film.  I think it's always a couple of seconds ahead of the video (you hear them say it, and then you see them say it).  I Definitely am using the NTSC Rifftrax for the NTSC DVD.  It's not (just) the Rifftrax that's out of sync, it's the original audio.  The Disembaudio voice is always 100% matched up throughout the film, but both audio tracks are always mismatched from the video footage.

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You don't HAVE to reauthor the movies at all.  All you have to do is put the dvd in your player, play the .mp3 file on your computer or stereo or whatever you want, listen to the prompts that Mike gives, and then start the movie when they say to.
I can't speak for that other lady, but I don't watch movies on my computer.  I watch them on the television with my family, and I just don't have a feasible way to connect my computer to my television.  I finally decided to buy a Rifftrax (of a DVD I already own - that's why I chose Spider-Man) because I read the guide and imagined being able to follow the steps and factory-like make some DVDs to watch.  But, yeah, I hit a solid dead-end (and unfortunately, it was on a step that came after buying the Rifftrack).  So I really hope I can make this work somehow, but I really can't imagine spending so many hours (not to mention tying up my computer for so long!) for every episode.  It's so frustrating!
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: RoninFox on March 13, 2009, 03:06:17 AM
You don't have to watch on your computer unless you're using the Rifftrax player, though to do things the "old fashioned" way you will need a separate device for the mp3 to play on, either your computer, a standalone mp3 player, or a cd player that can read data cds.  Play the mp3 while you watch the movie on ypur tv's mp3 player.

If you do want to keep trying to reauthor, I'm not entirely sure what would be causing your sync issues.  When you combine the audio tracks, did you move the movie audio or just the riff audio?
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Thrifty on March 13, 2009, 03:31:10 AM
If you do want to keep trying to reauthor, I'm not entirely sure what would be causing your sync issues.  When you combine the audio tracks, did you move the movie audio or just the riff audio?

Ronin brings up a good point.  I assume you're using Audacity to combine the audio tracks.  In a few of my earliest reauthors, I mistakenly cut from the movie audio track to improve the sync.  It got the Disembaudio lines to match up, but the video and audio were off.  Never cut from the movie audio track.  If the Disembaudio lines are playing before the same lines in the movie and you need to move them forward, the best practice is:

1) Figure out how far out of sync Disembaudio and the movie sync line is.  Depending on how much finesse you need ( I like to sync it up to the tenth of a second), you'll have to zoom in.
2) So if you know this, you need to copy and paste.  Let's say Disembaudio is uttering his lines 2.3 seconds ahead of the movie.  Highlight 2.3 seconds of the Rifftrax in Audacity (any 2.3 seconds, it doesn't matter).  Audacity is really neat in that it makes it super easy to select very precise times by zooming in further.  But anyway, select 2.3 seconds of Rifftrax audio.  Go to Edit > Copy (make sure you use COPY and not cut). 
3) Go back to the start of the Rifftrax.  Select Edit>Paste.   The audio will be copied and highlighted in Audacity.
4) With that section of audio highlighted, select Generate>Silence.

By doing this, you'll have pushed the entire Rifftrax forward, and all the Disembaudio sync lines will fall into place.

Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Thrifty on March 13, 2009, 03:45:36 AM

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The VIDEO_TS folders should be produced by your reauthor program, either Rejig or IFO Edit (depending on which guide you're using).  I've seen Rejig give me that kind of trouble before.  What program are you using?  What movie is it?  That could be important.  I've had a few movies go nuts in Rejig during the creation of the VIDEO_TS folders and the IFO files.

It's also possible that the VIDEO_TS folder was created, but it's not where you're looking.  Some programs will create a VIDEO_TS in a default location that may be separate from where the rest of your files are.  Pay attention to where you're asking it to place the reauthored files.
I used both, but spent the most time using Rejig and following the Lite guide.
The movie is Spider-man (the first one).
The re-author asked me to name the output folder (which I think I just named "output"), and it put a .VOB file inside that folder.  Are you saying if I re-mane the folder "VIDEO_TS" that would work?  I think the next step was asking me for a file, not a folder, but I'll definitely give that a shot if you think it might work.

Hmm.

What Rejig should do is, in the output folder that you specify, automatically create a VIDEO_TS and AUDIO_TS subfolder within there.  The VIDEO_TS should have VIDEO_TS.IFO, VTS_01.IFO, and several .VOB files.  The IFO files should be pretty small (less than 100 Kb), and the .VOB files will be around 1 Gb.  Here's a screenshot from a recent re-author of Glitter.

(http://www.mstabosz.com/Glitter--Rejig.jpg)

(although that's a bit of a misnomer since I stopped using Rejig for the authoring phase once I started making menus.

Did you put chapter times in your reauthor?  That's screwed me a few times.

I'll check again later with Spiderman to see if it gave/gives me any trouble.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Wernski on March 14, 2009, 09:52:49 AM
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1) Figure out how far out of sync Disembaudio and the movie sync line is.  Depending on how much finesse you need ( I like to sync it up to the tenth of a second), you'll have to zoom in.
Is there a way to do this precisely?  I guess I can count seconds from when I hear the line to when I see it to get roughly where it should be ("one... two... three... four... ah-ha! four seconds") but I can't think of a way I could get it very precise without just randomly guessing and encoding the movie dozens of times.

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What Rejig should do is, in the output folder that you specify, automatically create a VIDEO_TS and AUDIO_TS subfolder within there.  The VIDEO_TS should have VIDEO_TS.IFO, VTS_01.IFO, and several .VOB files.  The IFO files should be pretty small (less than 100 Kb), and the .VOB files will be around 1 Gb.  Here's a screenshot from a recent re-author of Glitter.
It definitely didn't create anything but the .VOB file, and I tried re-doing the process over and got the same result again.   ???
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Thrifty on March 15, 2009, 06:17:15 PM
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1) Figure out how far out of sync Disembaudio and the movie sync line is.  Depending on how much finesse you need ( I like to sync it up to the tenth of a second), you'll have to zoom in.
Is there a way to do this precisely?  I guess I can count seconds from when I hear the line to when I see it to get roughly where it should be ("one... two... three... four... ah-ha! four seconds") but I can't think of a way I could get it very precise without just randomly guessing and encoding the movie dozens of times.

I do it visually.  That's the cool thing about Audacity.  You can see the sound and cut, paste, and generate silences to fill them.  Take a look at this screenshot from me trying to sync up a movie.  Notice that you can see where the Diseambaudio sync line is and where the regular movie soundtrack says it (it's not actually labelled in a real reauthor, but you listen and watch the waveforms in Audacity to figure it out).
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Thrifty on March 15, 2009, 06:18:34 PM
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What Rejig should do is, in the output folder that you specify, automatically create a VIDEO_TS and AUDIO_TS subfolder within there.  The VIDEO_TS should have VIDEO_TS.IFO, VTS_01.IFO, and several .VOB files.  The IFO files should be pretty small (less than 100 Kb), and the .VOB files will be around 1 Gb.  Here's a screenshot from a recent re-author of Glitter.
It definitely didn't create anything but the .VOB file, and I tried re-doing the process over and got the same result again.   ???

That is odd....  Maybe try IFO Edit instead of Rejig.  I've hit that wall a few times.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Wernski on March 15, 2009, 06:25:00 PM
Ok, I'll try IFOEdit and report back.  Hopefully that will do it.
For the sync thing, though; I don't think that Audacity would work because the two audios are already in perfect sync with each other, so the visuals already line up.  The problem is that both audio tracks are out of sync with the video.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Thrifty on March 15, 2009, 07:42:39 PM
Ok, I'll try IFOEdit and report back.  Hopefully that will do it.
For the sync thing, though; I don't think that Audacity would work because the two audios are already in perfect sync with each other, so the visuals already line up.  The problem is that both audio tracks are out of sync with the video.

Oh yeah that.  Yeah that's a tough nut to crack.  I often don't even notice until I've finished the reauthor and burnt it to DVD.  I just did Swing Parade, and it's really bad on that one.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: bratpop on March 15, 2009, 11:00:46 PM
Probably off-topic, but in response to making it easier to sync, they should offer 2 mp3s so that people can burn it to two CDs if they don't have an mp3 player or a way to set one up. That would work for roughly any movie under 2 hours and 40 minutes.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: MSTJedi on March 28, 2009, 09:01:23 PM
For some reason IfoEdit hasn't been working for me lately. It used to work just fine, but now it just doesn't seem to be muxing very well. The resulting DVD won't play correctly in WMP and the time is off (e.g., 1:32 for 1:55 on Alien). Luckily Muxman works fine, but seems to get the chapters off sometimes, not to mention the sub colors. At least IfoEdit is still good for that.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: shortstak37 on April 14, 2009, 07:54:49 AM
Hello this is my first time doing this and I tried checking to see if anyone else is having the problem and nothing has come up so sorry if it has been asked before. I just bought The Dark Knight riff and I am trying to follow the guide but every time I use DVD Decrypt it gets to the 5th IFO VTS and it freezes and eventually gives me a VPTSM Runtime Error and then continues running then eventually shuts it self down.I then tired Rejig and when it gets to the trying to correct the audio delay I get that the program is not responding. Is there some special thing that I need to do that I am not doing correctly?
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Thrifty on April 14, 2009, 08:02:01 AM
Hello this is my first time doing this and I tried checking to see if anyone else is having the problem and nothing has come up so sorry if it has been asked before. I just bought The Dark Knight riff and I am trying to follow the guide but every time I use DVD Decrypt it gets to the 5th IFO VTS and it freezes and eventually gives me a VPTSM Runtime Error and then continues running then eventually shuts it self down.I then tired Rejig and when it gets to the trying to correct the audio delay I get that the program is not responding. Is there some special thing that I need to do that I am not doing correctly?

Dark Knight is one of those DVDs with pesky extra protection that makes DVD Decrypter spaz out.  You need to download and use DVD Fab.  This thread (http://forum.rifftrax.com/index.php/topic,12003.0.html) goes into more detail.

I recall what I had to do was make some kind of clone of The Dark Knight, burn that onto DVD, then re-rip from that.  I used a DVD-RW which I erased and reused after the reauthoring was finished.  You could also just make an ISO of The Dark Knight, mount that as a virtual drive (using VirtualCloneDrive (http://www.elby.ch/fun/software/index.html)), and rip that.

Anyway, check out the thread I linked to before for additional help.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: shortstak37 on April 14, 2009, 08:26:32 AM
Thanks for the info but I have tried DVDFab but I can not find the ISO files I did a little hunting and it seems that DVDFab 5.2.3.2 (the lastest version) does not create ISO Files or atleast the the free version. Is there a place to download DVDFab 5.1.2.2 since i read that is the last version that creates the ISO files to mount on the virtual drive?
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: stansimpson on April 21, 2009, 07:23:43 PM
Rather than searching all 45 pages of this thread, could somebody kindly direct me to a tutorial that shows me how to burn my own version of the movie (mostly know how to do that already) but with the option to switch multiple audio tracks.  Mac preferred.  Thanks.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Zandrax on April 22, 2009, 10:39:27 AM
Rather than searching all 45 pages of this thread, could somebody kindly direct me to a tutorial that shows me how to burn my own version of the movie (mostly know how to do that already) but with the option to switch multiple audio tracks.  Mac preferred.  Thanks.
Not sure about Mac, but the original post does show you how to do that. Whether you use DVD Flick, or IFOEdit, they give you the option to use multiple video tracks.

Hope that helps!
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: bettertomorrowamy on April 22, 2009, 11:38:09 AM
Rather than searching all 45 pages of this thread, could somebody kindly direct me to a tutorial that shows me how to burn my own version of the movie (mostly know how to do that already) but with the option to switch multiple audio tracks.  Mac preferred.  Thanks.

Use MacTheRipper, Audacity, ffMPEGx, and Burn.  I'm too lazy to make a tutorial.  I was working on creating a video tutorial for it, but I'm not done yet.

ffMPEGx give you the option of creating multiple audio tracks.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: stansimpson on April 22, 2009, 11:45:11 AM
Rather than searching all 45 pages of this thread, could somebody kindly direct me to a tutorial that shows me how to burn my own version of the movie (mostly know how to do that already) but with the option to switch multiple audio tracks.  Mac preferred.  Thanks.
Not sure about Mac, but the original post does show you how to do that. Whether you use DVD Flick, or IFOEdit, they give you the option to use multiple video tracks.

Hope that helps!
Thanks but all I have is my Mac.

Use MacTheRipper, Audacity, ffMPEGx, and Burn.  I'm too lazy to make a tutorial.  I was working on creating a video tutorial for it, but I'm not done yet.

ffMPEGx give you the option of creating multiple audio tracks.
Thanks!  The ffMPEGx is what I really needed to know about.  I would be very interested to see a video tutorial.  Good luck on making that!
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Joe Molotov on May 28, 2009, 06:43:32 PM
Using the steps in the Tutorial, I've been trying to rip my Dark Knight DVD, but when I get to part about using DVD Decrypter to split the audio and video, I wind up with a video file that's 30kb and an audio file that's 0kb. What am I doing wrong here? The ISO that I made with DVD Fab seems to be just fine in all other respects.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: bettertomorrowamy on May 29, 2009, 02:53:08 PM
Using the steps in the Tutorial, I've been trying to rip my Dark Knight DVD, but when I get to part about using DVD Decrypter to split the audio and video, I wind up with a video file that's 30kb and an audio file that's 0kb. What am I doing wrong here? The ISO that I made with DVD Fab seems to be just fine in all other respects.

You have to use the latest version of DVDFab to get the Dark Knight ripped properly, and then you can progress from there.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Joe Molotov on May 29, 2009, 06:55:24 PM
I used DVD Fab 6, that's the newest one they have on their website. I guess I'll try ripping it again.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Joe Molotov on May 29, 2009, 10:17:06 PM
Okay, it seems to be working now after I ripped it again.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: k1 on June 26, 2009, 07:14:10 AM
Where'd Gammer's guide go?
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: RichSmith on July 04, 2009, 06:34:59 PM
Can someone, preferably with AIM or something, give me a guide to burning synced Riff Trax to DVD using Mac?

So far, I have the ripped movie in Garage Band, synced up perfectly with the riff trax.  I export it out of there, and I added subtitles using FFMpegX.  When I go to play it, to test it out (I have no idea how to get this file to DVD or iMovie/iDVD), it has no sound, but it has the subtitles.  This is the case on both video files exported out of Garage Band.

Also, when I synced the subtitles via FFMpegX, the timing was off, where someone would speak a line, finish, then the subtitles would show.

Any help?
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: k1 on July 05, 2009, 07:09:22 AM
Can someone, preferably with AIM or something, give me a guide to burning synced Riff Trax to DVD using Mac?

So far, I have the ripped movie in Garage Band, synced up perfectly with the riff trax.  I export it out of there, and I added subtitles using FFMpegX.  When I go to play it, to test it out (I have no idea how to get this file to DVD or iMovie/iDVD), it has no sound, but it has the subtitles.  This is the case on both video files exported out of Garage Band.

Also, when I synced the subtitles via FFMpegX, the timing was off, where someone would speak a line, finish, then the subtitles would show.

Any help?

Which version of Garage Band?  09?

Just click "Share" at the top on the tool bar and click "Send to iDVD"  Create your menu & Voila!
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: RichSmith on July 05, 2009, 10:00:52 AM
Thanks for the reply!

I am using Garageband 08.

Wow, that worked perfectly, however, I am still unable to add subtitles, which I can probably do BEFORE I add the video to GarageBand, but my subtitles are still off.  How can I fix that?  I am using the link found in the subtitles topic (http://www.public.iastate.edu/~mattwall/Twilight.srt).  If I can get those lines timed better, I would be set.

Thanks again!
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: RichSmith on July 05, 2009, 10:33:12 AM
Since, I can't edit, when I clicked Share>Send Movie to iDVD, nothing happens.  I looked around, and I can't find the video files.  Any suggestions?
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: iv3rdawG on July 05, 2009, 10:34:32 AM
*figured it out*
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: k1 on July 06, 2009, 06:32:18 AM
Thanks for the reply!

I am using Garageband 08.

Wow, that worked perfectly, however, I am still unable to add subtitles, which I can probably do BEFORE I add the video to GarageBand, but my subtitles are still off.  How can I fix that?  I am using the link found in the subtitles topic (http://www.public.iastate.edu/~mattwall/Twilight.srt).  If I can get those lines timed better, I would be set.

Thanks again!

Not sure.  I haven't really tried subtitles before other than some manual ones for a home video project type thing that I did in iMovie.  I would say you'd probably want to do it before adding it to Garage Band.

Since, I can't edit, when I clicked Share>Send Movie to iDVD, nothing happens.  I looked around, and I can't find the video files.  Any suggestions?

It should launch iDVD when you do that and let you start working on the menu.  To play the video just hit the preview button.  (I think it looks like a Play button)
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: RichSmith on July 06, 2009, 06:02:06 PM
For me, when I click "Share with iDVD" it goes through the process, and then nothing happens.

I think for the subtitles, I will have to edit the timing on all of the lines, which I don't really feel like doing now, but it just seems to be a small timing issue.

Any idea what's up with iDVD?
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: quistisffviii on July 28, 2010, 12:39:19 PM
I started to download the software for this and I was getting a warning about one of the files.  Not sure which one now. 


Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: MrTorso on July 28, 2010, 12:43:09 PM
What was the warning? What was issuing the warning?
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Thrifty on July 28, 2010, 12:44:55 PM
I started to download the software for this and I was getting a warning about one of the files.  Not sure which one now. 

Are there any alternative programs or a new way to do things now?  I was hoping to attempt this with one of my Harry Potter DVDs. 

Alternatives to what?  There are eight different programs involved in the reauthor process.  Maybe one of the download links at the top is out of date?

I have links in my guide (http://forum.rifftrax.com/index.php/topic,16287.0.html).  
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: quistisffviii on July 28, 2010, 12:48:48 PM
McAfee popped up.  I use Avast but when I first got the computer it was McAfee and it still pops up to tell me which sites are safe.  This time it said the file may contain adware, spyware, etc.  I just checked again and it was the Audacity file.  
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Thrifty on July 28, 2010, 02:08:03 PM
McAfee popped up.  I use Avast but when I first got the computer it was McAfee and it still pops up to tell me which sites are safe.  This time it said the file may contain adware, spyware, etc.  I just checked again and it was the Audacity file.  

Well, you should be able to get Audacity from Sourceforge (http://audacity.sourceforge.net/download/).

Goldwave does the same thing.  Dunno if it's free.  RVR II uses Pinnacle Studio, but you gotta pay for that.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: quistisffviii on July 28, 2010, 05:27:44 PM
Oddly, it was a sourceforge link and I usually don't have problems with them. 

I went to the official site and got it through there.  Everything was fine. 
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Danecho1967 on September 09, 2010, 10:35:25 AM
I thought I'd ask here, because I haven't seen anyone else have this issue.

I have re-authored several movies (5 to be exact) and I'm having an issue with Independence Day.

For the first 30 minutes or so, Disembaudio is perfectly synced up, but at 38 minutes in (or a few minutes before) the Rifftrax is about one second early.  I will re-rip the CD and try again from scratch, but I was wondering if anyone else has had this issue.

I am using the fullscreen edition (mother bought it for me as a gift some years ago, not knowing I'm a widescreen snob), but it is not a special edition with any extra footage.  I watched it on the computer once before without any issues that I remember, but this is my first time re-authoring it.

Anyone ever had similar problems with the tracks going out of sync in the middle of the film?
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: RVR II on September 09, 2010, 10:45:55 AM
It could just be a burn issue with that particular dvd.. I have issues like this with movies that only fit on double layer discs mostly (very few single layer discs) and I just splice the RiffTrax in my Pinnacle Studio program where the movie 'hangs up' or splice out a rifftrax 'dead spot' to bring the RiffTrax back in sync with the movie - adjust the rifftrax accordingly till it's synced back up, and burn it to dvd once I'm satisfied.. 8)
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Danecho1967 on September 09, 2010, 11:07:07 AM
Sounds like I could add some "dead air" to the rifftrack in the right location.  Just a second or so.

Doing this, you have never had the audio get out of sync with the video?

I assume it wouldn't, as long as I only edit the Rifftax, and not the movie audio, but I thought I would ask.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: RVR II on September 09, 2010, 11:16:02 AM

Doing this, you have never had the audio get out of sync with the video?

Nope..
The way I do it is a bit different from others.. I'll capture the entire movie to my hard drive via Pinnacle Studio, then i'll add the RiffTrax mp3 in the edit part of the program, sync them up using the 1st and last Disembaudio sync lines and if they both line up, I'm good to go, but if they don't, that's where I'll need to find the out of sync spot and make the necessary edit(s) to make in line up and then burn it to a new DVD to watch in 5.1 surround sound.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Thrifty on September 09, 2010, 01:22:46 PM
Sounds like I could add some "dead air" to the rifftrack in the right location.  Just a second or so.

Doing this, you have never had the audio get out of sync with the video?

I assume it wouldn't, as long as I only edit the Rifftax, and not the movie audio, but I thought I would ask.

It has happened before.  There are two possible causes:

1) Rejig did it during the demultiplexing step at the beginning.  If you check the box that says "Correct AC3 delay", this might happen.
2) If you cut anything out of or paste anything into the movie audio track (not the Riff Track), it'll cause a delay.

The solution to case number 1 is to add the delay back in during the final authoring phase of Rejig.  The delay is usually around 500 ms, but you'll know for sure what it is if you look at the ripped AC3 file.  It will have a name like "0x80_AC3_Audio_delay500ms_corrected_to_0ms".  That "500 ms" is the delay that was "corrected" via removal.  You need to put it back in.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Danecho1967 on September 11, 2010, 09:51:45 PM
I listened closely for the point where it was obviously out of synch and added a little less than a second of dead air to the rifftrax.  It turned out perfectly.

I am a little dissapointed that my DVD's end up with 2 channel audio, but I definitely prefer to watch reauthored DVD's rather than synching up on the fly.  Autoducking gives it a very professional sound, too.  I can't believe I'm doing all of this with freeware.   :)

Anywho, thanks for the help guys.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: k1 on October 24, 2010, 11:23:50 AM
Well due to the (possible) death of my HP, I'm back to reauthoring on Mac... 

I plan on redoing my guide that was mentioned at the beginning of this thread since thanks to the updates in GarageBand (adding autoducking mainly) it's a heck of alot simpler to sync things.  I just did Jaws 3 in about 5 minutes.  Another upside is that I can start adding stingers back in really easily on the Mac.

Here's the question I have though... Ripping it via Handbrake & importing it into GarageBand will most likely cause a drop in video quality.  That was a problem I had way back at the beginning when Rifftrax first started out.  Not sure if the newer releases of HB or GB will resolve that issue.  In the event that it doesn't, does anyone know of a way I can rip the audio & video on a Mac similar to the way that I had been doing on PC using DVD Decrypter?  Or any other ideas?  I'd like to avoid having to pay for additional software if possible.  I do have Final Cut Express, the latest iLife suite, etc.

**note to self: mention 120bpm issue with Garageband export**
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: stansimpson on October 27, 2010, 02:05:23 PM
Hey k1... I don't have an answer but I do have a question that I think you may be able to answer. Please forgive me if I've asked before but I've done most the work now and plan on authoring by end of this week, and I haven't been able to locate the answer on the forum.  My question is, do you know how to author a dvd using multiple, selectable audio tracks?  I have GarageBand, iMovie, and Final Cut Express.  Is it something I need to do with those or use a different app?  I'm trying to have one for the movie's audio, one for the RiffTrax (+movie, of course), and one for the isolated score.  Thanks.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: k1 on October 27, 2010, 04:16:28 PM
Hey k1... I don't have an answer but I do have a question that I think you may be able to answer. Please forgive me if I've asked before but I've done most the work now and plan on authoring by end of this week, and I haven't been able to locate the answer on the forum.  My question is, do you know how to author a dvd using multiple, selectable audio tracks?  I have GarageBand, iMovie, and Final Cut Express.  Is it something I need to do with those or use a different app?  I'm trying to have one for the movie's audio, one for the RiffTrax (+movie, of course), and one for the isolated score.  Thanks.

Good question.  I was wondering that myself when I was making a dvd of our Burn-E riff.  (I ended up doing 3 separate video files on one DVD because I couldn't figure it out.  1 unriffed, 1 riffed, 1 riffed with our sing-along subtitles.)

I'm pretty confident that iDVD is smart enough to pull it off.  But I would be interested in doing that myself.  Anyone have any ideas?
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: stansimpson on October 27, 2010, 04:52:07 PM
Hey k1... I don't have an answer but I do have a question that I think you may be able to answer. Please forgive me if I've asked before but I've done most the work now and plan on authoring by end of this week, and I haven't been able to locate the answer on the forum.  My question is, do you know how to author a dvd using multiple, selectable audio tracks?  I have GarageBand, iMovie, and Final Cut Express.  Is it something I need to do with those or use a different app?  I'm trying to have one for the movie's audio, one for the RiffTrax (+movie, of course), and one for the isolated score.  Thanks.

Good question.  I was wondering that myself when I was making a dvd of our Burn-E riff.  (I ended up doing 3 separate video files on one DVD because I couldn't figure it out.  1 unriffed, 1 riffed, 1 riffed with our sing-along subtitles.)

I'm pretty confident that iDVD is smart enough to pull it off.  But I would be interested in doing that myself.  Anyone have any ideas?
All the research I've done shows that iDVD won't allow on-the-go switching audio tracks. The only thing I found was DVD Studio (but it costs like $30).

So... anyone have any ideas... that's also free?
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on October 27, 2010, 05:41:04 PM
Hey k1... I don't have an answer but I do have a question that I think you may be able to answer. Please forgive me if I've asked before but I've done most the work now and plan on authoring by end of this week, and I haven't been able to locate the answer on the forum.  My question is, do you know how to author a dvd using multiple, selectable audio tracks?  I have GarageBand, iMovie, and Final Cut Express.  Is it something I need to do with those or use a different app?  I'm trying to have one for the movie's audio, one for the RiffTrax (+movie, of course), and one for the isolated score.  Thanks.

Good question.  I was wondering that myself when I was making a dvd of our Burn-E riff.  (I ended up doing 3 separate video files on one DVD because I couldn't figure it out.  1 unriffed, 1 riffed, 1 riffed with our sing-along subtitles.)

I'm pretty confident that iDVD is smart enough to pull it off.  But I would be interested in doing that myself.  Anyone have any ideas?
All the research I've done shows that iDVD won't allow on-the-go switching audio tracks. The only thing I found was DVD Studio (but it costs like $30).

So... anyone have any ideas... that's also free?

Can you get rejig to work on a mac using a windows emulator?  That's a fairly small and self contained program, might work in an emulator.  All you really need it to do is combine the audio and video files...  I never do menus or chapters or subtitles so I just dump the video and the original ac3 and riffed ac3 into rejig and let it create the dvd files.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: k1 on October 27, 2010, 06:20:20 PM
That probably would work.  I would need to buy a copy of windows to install on boot camp though wouldn't I?
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: stansimpson on October 27, 2010, 06:30:21 PM
That probably would work.  I would need to buy a copy of windows to install on boot camp though wouldn't I?
Yeah, in which case, it'd be simpler/cheaper to piratebuy DVD Studio.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on October 28, 2010, 08:36:22 AM
That probably would work.  I would need to buy a copy of windows to install on boot camp though wouldn't I?

Are there no free or cheap windows emulators for the mac like there are for linux?  I'm not talking about installing a version of windows, I'm talking about an emulator that lets you run a windows program inside another operating system.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Ragnar! on November 09, 2010, 11:34:41 PM
As Linux was mentioned I just thought that I would jump in and comment that Audacity will export to AC3 in Linux so no need to export to wav and then reconvert. It saves a step. And I am having great luck using AVIdemux to convert the VOB's into XviD/avi format that are great to stream to the DLNA device of your choice from a media server on your home network.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: Thrifty on November 10, 2010, 02:23:22 AM
As Linux was mentioned I just thought that I would jump in and comment that Audacity will export to AC3 in Linux so no need to export to wav and then reconvert. It saves a step. And I am having great luck using AVIdemux to convert the VOB's into XviD/avi format that are great to stream to the DLNA device of your choice from a media server on your home network.

The Windows version does that too, if you get version 1.3.  I don't think 1.3 was available at the time the original guide was written though, and its author has long since vanished from this board.
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: pstokely on November 23, 2010, 05:27:55 AM
For those of you interested in putting the riff-track on the rear surround-sound speakers, here's the procedure I used with free software.  I really like this system because you can control the volume of the riff separately using your receiver surround sound settings.

- do steps 1 and 2 in the official guide above (rip DVD files and fix audio track, you should read full official guide to get details on the full process)

- download Audacity 1.3.6 (I got it from audacity.sourceforge.net)

- go to Edit|Preferences, Import/Export tab, download FFmpeg library

- on same tab, in box "When exporting tracks to an audio file", choose "Use custom mix"


- load in fixed AC3 file (from step 2 in official guide), it should load in 6 channels which I believe are: left, center, right, rear-left, rear-right, subwoofer

- import rifftrax mp3 file, should load as track #7

- in Edit|Preferences, Quality tab, set sampling defaults to 48,000 Hz and 16-bit (default for DVD AC3)

- align rifftrax (channel 7) with main audio (channel #2) using time shift, silence sections as desired, copy/paste silent portion to the end (join any splits)

- select entire movie track, all 7 channels, from beginning of DVD audio (the rifftrax will start earlier if you used the time shift method above)

- select File|export selection and choose WAV format

- click OK on the Edit Metadata screen if it appears (there's an option to make it not appear)

- on the Advanced Mixing Options screen, choose 6 channel output and map the tracks (by clicking diagram) as follows:

   1st track (left) to channel 1
   2nd track (center) to channel 3
   3rd track (right) to channel 2
   4th track (rear-left) to none
   5th track (rear-right) to none
   6th track (subwoofer) to channel 4
   7th track (riff) to channel 5 and channel 6

* this ordering is necessary because the next step changes the order, and this makes it go back to the original DVD order

- use AftenGui (with aften.exe, I got both from videohelp.com) to encode the 6-channel WAV into 5.1 AC3 (I used all the defaults)

- use the newly created AC3 to make DVD folder with IFOedit or rejig (step 6 in official guide)

- option A: use DVD shrink to make iso file for burning (final step in the official guide)

- option B: use ConvertXToDVD (commercial software) to make DVD file with a menu screen (and shrink to fit on single-sided DVD); then use imgtool.exe to create iso file for burning

Good luck!


AftenGUI won't encode
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: pstokely on November 23, 2010, 08:47:23 PM
Subtitles in my re authored "The Last Airbender" copy are off
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: k1 on November 28, 2010, 06:41:27 AM
Had a dead laptop that was apparently still under covered under Best Buy's protection plan!  :o Got a letter saying the plan was expiring, so I brought it in & they gave me a new one, so I'm back to doing reauthors on PC again! Still haven't found a really good way to do it on Mac without losing a ton of quality on the picture.

I've got everything reinstalled other than various ripping software that I'm sure will be needed with Twilight and the more tricky rips.  The only problem now is trying to remember all the settings on everything, I think I have everything all set & I'm burning a disc now to see.

Couple quick questions though...

Going to attempt trying to do reauthors in surround sound rather than just 2 channel stereo for the first time later this week.  Can someone point me to the settings I need for Clier's AC3tool to keep the 5.1? The tool seems pretty straight forward, but when I try to load the 5.1 wav into GoldWave it doesn't know what to do with it. (So maybe it's the settings I need to tell GoldWave on import rather than Clier's?)  And once I get it to load, it's just the same as normal as far as the reauthor goes right? Or is there anything else I need to do?

Second and more important question that I'm sure was answered somewhere but I probably missed it, my biggest complaint when I finish up a reauthor is that the audio on the DVD is much quieter than a normal DVD.  I typically have the volume at 15 on the TV for watching TV or DVD but with my reauthors I end up having to turn it up to around 45 or 50.  Not the end of the world, but sure can scare the pants off you if you forget to turn it down before switching back to watch something else.

Just thought of one more thing.  How can I get DVD Decrypter to stop throwing error messages when I close the program? I have this problem on every machine I've installed it on. 
The errors are:
Failed to set data for "
Failed to set data for 'DVDDecrypterPlayDVDMovieOnArrival'
Failed to set data for " (sometimes this last one repeats a few times)
Title: Re: UNOFFICIAL Rifftrax DVD Creating Step-by-Step Guide (Now With Rifftrax Lite)
Post by: MrTorso on November 28, 2010, 08:11:37 AM
Going to attempt trying to do reauthors in surround sound rather than just 2 channel stereo for the first time later this week.  Can someone point me to the settings I need for Clier's AC3tool to keep the 5.1? The tool seems pretty straight forward, but when I try to load the 5.1 wav into GoldWave it doesn't know what to do with it. (So maybe it's the settings I need to tell GoldWave on import rather than Clier's?)  And once I get it to load, it's just the same as normal as far as the reauthor goes right? Or is there anything else I need to do?

Second and more important question that I'm sure was answered somewhere but I probably missed it, my biggest complaint when I finish up a reauthor is that the audio on the DVD is much quieter than a normal DVD.  I typically have the volume at 15 on the TV for watching TV or DVD but with my reauthors I end up having to turn it up to around 45 or 50.  Not the end of the world, but sure can scare the pants off you if you forget to turn it down before switching back to watch something else.

Just thought of one more thing.  How can I get DVD Decrypter to stop throwing error messages when I close the program? I have this problem on every machine I've installed it on. 
The errors are:
Failed to set data for "
Failed to set data for 'DVDDecrypterPlayDVDMovieOnArrival'
Failed to set data for " (sometimes this last one repeats a few times)


Not sure about the 5.1 stuff. As for the volume goes when you downmix the 5.1 to stereo it is always low volume so I use the Maximize volume feature on Goldwave to bring the levels up as soon as I open the wav.