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Title: To comic fans, Whats your favorite.
Post by: Road_Element on September 24, 2006, 02:33:15 PM
I know this might be off topic. But what the hell. Anyways just thought we list of are favorite Graphic Novels and maybe some comics you read.

Some my favorite books are:

V for Vendetta - I know of people like the watchmen better. But to me this is my favorite moore book
The Watchmen - one of alan moores great books.
Batman Year One - I dont know why i just like this one better the 'The Dark Knight Returns"
The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen vol 1 - a Great 19th century adventure
Road to Perdition
Batman - The Long Holloween
Batman the Dark Knight Returns.
The Ulimates
Any volume of Will Eisner's "The Spirit"
"The Complete Peanuts"

Comics i read.
Truth, Justin, and the American Way <Click Here> (http://www.mycomicshop.com/res/images_products/import_from_office/largepics/BAFZH001.jpg) - just a great Super-Hero parody set in the 80's. Reminds me of the Greatest American Hero
What Were They Thinking  <Click Here> (http://www.mycomicshop.com/res/images_products/import_from_office/largepics/BAG0H001.jpg) - The MST3k of Comics or sort of. Basicly what they do is they take old comics from the 30's and replace the dialog. Overall its pretty funny
Planet Hulk <Click Here> (http://www.mycomicshop.com/res/images_products/import_from_office/largepics/B220B094.jpg) - The Incredible Hulk on another Planet fighting Gladiator style. You just got to love it.
Revolution on the Planet of the Apes    <Click Here> (http://www.mycomicshop.com/res/images_products/import_from_office/largepics/BAFCW002.jpg) - A pretty good Ape Book, Takes place between "Conquest of" and "Battle For"
PVP <Click Here> (http://www.mycomicshop.com/res/images_products/import_from_office/largepics/BA93V025.jpg) -  A great comedic Comic about people who run a Video game Magazine. Its kinda like a sitcom on paper.
Escapists <Click Here> (http://www.mycomicshop.com/res/images_products/import_from_office/largepics/BAH3H003.jpg) - A comic book about people trying to sell a comic book. Believe me its not as boring as it sounds.

 
Well that all i can think of right now.
Title: Re: To comic fans, Whats your favorite.
Post by: Sharktopus on September 24, 2006, 04:15:43 PM
I notice you left out League Of Extraordinary Gentlemen Volume II. That was more disappointing than X-Men 3.

It would take pages to list everything I read, but I recommend NEXTWAVE. Healing America by beating people up. Also Runaways, DC: New Frontier, and anything written by Robert Kirkman.
Title: Re: To comic fans, Whats your favorite.
Post by: Road_Element on September 24, 2006, 04:27:06 PM
I notice you left out League Of Extraordinary Gentlemen Volume II. That was more disappointing than X-Men 3.

I think League Of Extraordinary Gentlemen Volume II was disappointing. I know Alan Moore puts a good amount of sex in his stuff. But that book was just two much. It was almost like watching a bad porno.  As for Robert Kirkman. I do read "Battle Pope". But i didnt want to upset any catholics.
Title: Re: To comic fans, Whats your favorite.
Post by: Sharktopus on September 24, 2006, 05:49:22 PM
Alan Moore: "Let's do an entire issue with aliens on Mars talking to each other in Martian and not translate it or give any context at all as to what the hell's going on."
Kevin O'Neill: "Brilliant! You've done it again!"
I did like the Dr. Moreau twist on War Of The Worlds, though.

Battle Pope's hilarious. You should check out Invincible, and Kirkman's new Iredeemable Ant-Man with Phil Hester looks like fun. I miss Marvel Team-Up already and it's not even finished yet.

Also recommended: The Goon. EAT THE BRICK!
Title: Re: To comic fans, Whats your favorite.
Post by: starfighter on September 24, 2006, 11:22:02 PM
  I still read some super-hero stuff, but recently I really appreciate the Showcase Presents series of 500-page books with black and white reprints of silver age stuff. The late 50s Superman books have been joined by the 1964-65 Batman "New Look" collection, plus the less-famous guys like Metamorpho, Jonah Hex, Elongated Man, Green Arrow etc. have all been great.  Marvel's Essentials are also good.
    Or look for some of the indys, like Cerebus and Bone which have already completed their runs but still exist in tpb form.  I've got the black and white collections of Bone but have been buying the colorized editions for my nephew.  And let's not forget Terry Moore's Strangers in Paradise, an excellent mainstream title for those who hate super-heroes.  He's tieing up the ends of that storyline in another 5 issues and it will be sad to see it go.
    My favorite Alan Moore stuff is still his run on Swamp Thing. His reimaginings of classic heroes have always seemed to be done with the utmost respect for the original work, unlike the clumsy trashings of character histories that Marvel and DC both seem to be so prone to do.
Title: Re: To comic fans, Whats your favorite.
Post by: Pak-Man on September 25, 2006, 09:01:14 AM
What I read: (Warning! My comic tastes have an extremely high light-hearted and goofy index. If you want the dark brooding stuff, I'll see if I can get my wife to post HER favorites. :^))
The Tick is probably the best comic ever. Recent iterations don't top the Edlund run, but they're still worth reading. :^)
I likes me some Hulk, and Planet Hulk has been an awesome arc, as previously mentioned. It's not goofy, but it's durned entertaining. :^)
Astonishing X-Men makes me fall in love with X-Titles all over again. Joss' wit shines through and fleshes out the X-Men like never before.
Cable and Deadpool makes me laugh. When a comic makes me laugh it earns a special place in my heart.
Cerebus is a comic I'm just starting to fall in love with. I picked up the first volume a couple months back, and I'm still plodding through it, but I'm entranced by the combination of Looney Tunes and Conan The Barbarian. I plan on reading it ALL. :^)
The Awesome Slapstick had only 4 issues back in the '80s, but they are 4 of the funniest comics I've ever read. From the introduction of a superhero with cartoon powers to dousing Ghost Rider's head with water (That man's head is on fire!) it's one of the best ever.
Defenders of Dinatron City - I don't think anyone ever bought into this series, but they should have. It was great solid writing from the mind who brought us Sam And Max. Oh yeah!
Sam and Max is worth getting if you can get it. (And the game is worth playing!)
ALF. This is more of a read-past-tense than a read-present-tense, but I loved Alf comics. It had an awesome parodic style and a witty writing that I think was unappreciated because most who WOULD appreciate it didn't pick up STAR comics. :^)

So tell me, comic readers, are there any other great humorous comics that I'm missing out on?
Title: Re: To comic fans, Whats your favorite.
Post by: Road_Element on September 25, 2006, 11:05:47 AM
I can think of one, the 70's run of Howard the Duck. I mean the movie sucked big time. But the comics where funny as hell. I loved when Howard ran for president. Heres a campaign Quote from the comic:

"Why a Duck? you ask! I say why not a duck? You've had Turkeys running this country for 200 years"
And
"On The Military Budget:"You guys want bigger, deadlier, more expensive weapons? Swell! But we gotta cut something!! How about Housing? You can Rough it in caves. It'll suit your Temperament"

Plus i love the campaign slogan "Get Down America, Vote Howard the Duck in 78". Anyways it was a pretty funny comic and to me the movie never happened. "DAMN YOU LUCASSSS"
Title: Re: To comic fans, Whats your favorite.
Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on September 25, 2006, 11:18:25 AM
my favorite comic is dilbert, or the farside :)

put that in your pipe and smoke it :)
Title: Re: To comic fans, Whats your favorite.
Post by: Pak-Man on September 25, 2006, 11:35:35 AM
Gotta check out Howard the Duck some time. :^)
Title: Re: To comic fans, Whats your favorite.
Post by: Ivan Druzhkov on September 25, 2006, 11:54:06 AM
For official "graphic novels," I've always loved V for Vendetta and Watchmen, and I like what I've seen in the bits of League of Extraordinary Gentlemen I flipped through.  I also thought Neil Gaiman's Sandman series was excellent, and I enjoyed the Lucifer spinoff.  I've read bits and pieces of the various mainstream heroes, but not enough to make any final judgment (though I do like the Fantastic Four).

For non-fiction graphic novels, my current favorite is Larry Gonick's Cartoon History of the Universe, which currently stands at 950 pages and covers all of human history up to 1492, though the next volume (coming in January hopefully) will take us up to 1776.  I'd also highly recommend Scott McCloud's Understanding Comics, as an interesting look at how comics are really an art form all unto themselves.

Finally, as for "regular" comics, I enjoy Doonesbury and Darby Conly's Get Fuzzy (imagine Garfield with better writing), and my two regular stops on the web are PvP and Dinosaur Comics (http://www.qwantz.com).
Title: Re: To comic fans, Whats your favorite.
Post by: Pak-Man on September 25, 2006, 11:56:47 AM
As long as we're talking regular comic strips, Pearls Before Swine is the best there is. Solid, solid humor. :^)
Title: Re: To comic fans, Whats your favorite.
Post by: starfighter on September 25, 2006, 02:01:14 PM
 Pakman,   if book collections don't bug you, Howard the Duck is available in a Marvel Essentials. Don't know if Marvel still has it in print, but eBay may have it cheaper than the full price of $16.  If you try to collect the original issues, I think the two issues with KISS appearing tend to run higher than the others.
   Another book I mentioned earlier, Strangers in Paradise, has many funny elements to it.  The easiest reprint format for that is in paperbacks the size of most manga today.  I think I read that 7 books will end up collecting the whole series eventually.
Title: Re: To comic fans, Whats your favorite.
Post by: The_Flash on September 25, 2006, 06:15:33 PM
The Flash has always been my favorite hero.  I hope that DC brings back Wally West relatively soon, as I'm not really enjoying Bart Allen as The Flash (despite my avatar).

I've also been reading Green Lantern and the current Ion macroseries.  Not up to date on my Robin or Nightwing, but I do like those books as well.
Title: Re: To comic fans, Whats your favorite.
Post by: Sharktopus on September 25, 2006, 11:01:52 PM

Astonishing X-Men makes me fall in love with X-Titles all over again. Joss' wit shines through and fleshes out the X-Men like never before. The only X-book I can read. Joss is taking over Runaways soon. Woot!

Cable and Deadpool makes me laugh. When a comic makes me laugh it earns a special place in my heart. I thought I was the only person reading C&DP.

The Awesome Slapstick had only 4 issues back in the '80s, but they are 4 of the funniest comics I've ever read. Is this the former New Warrior who briefly showed up in a recent She-Hulk? I'm pretty up on my Marvel stuff but I had no idea who that was.

So tell me, comic readers, are there any other great humorous comics that I'm missing out on? I recommend the aforementioned "funny" comics: Nextwave, Battle Pope, The Goon, and She-Hulk, and of course the classic bwahaha Justice League International by Giffen & DeMatteis,
Title: Re: To comic fans, Whats your favorite.
Post by: Pak-Man on September 25, 2006, 11:17:13 PM
Ooh. I forgot to mention I read She-Hulk. :^) And yeah that was Slapstick who appeared for 2 glorious frames. And I am the weirdo in the letter column obsessing over it in issue 9 (I think it was. :^))
Title: Re: To comic fans, Whats your favorite.
Post by: ScottotD on September 26, 2006, 01:27:34 AM
At the moment I read:

WALKING DEAD - Just a brilliant zombie story, probably the most disturbing comic I've read.
POWERS - Is it cool to diss Bendis yet? this book rocks and he's just brilliant
DEADPOOL and CABLE - Deadpool got me back into comics
POWERS - Epic storytelling

I might start expanding my order soon-ish, been hearing good things about Y: The Last Man.
Title: Re: To comic fans, Whats your favorite.
Post by: Edward J Grug III on September 26, 2006, 05:00:29 AM
Scott's picks are great, though he must really like Powers ;)

I read anything by:

James Kochalka, Craig Thompson, Scott Moorse, Jeff Brown, Lewis Trondhiem, Tom Hart, Jill Thompson, Sara Varon, Brian Ralph and many many others.

ps, I am a cartooist my own self, take a look:

http://www.webcomicsnation.com/grug
Title: Re: To comic fans, Whats your favorite.
Post by: Tarantulas on September 26, 2006, 07:51:28 AM
I read some of your comic...  I want to buy pot from you.
Title: Re: To comic fans, Whats your favorite.
Post by: Tyrant on September 26, 2006, 11:23:23 AM

Current reads: Astonishing X-Men, the new Ghostrider, All Star Batman & Robin, All Star Superman, the new Martian Manhunter, the Transformers titles, Justice, New Justice League, Phoenix: Warsong, and whatever stray comic Pak leaves laying around (I've poked at the Marvel Civil War story arc off and on).

Past reads: Marvel Zombies, Kingdome Come, The Crow, Batman: The Dark Knight Returns, Batman: Year One, V for Vendetta and Watchmen, Elfquest, WE3, Phoenix: Endsong, and probably a bunch of other stuff I'm not thinking of at the moment.

 Pak, you forgot to mention the stuff from Doug Tenaple.
Title: Re: To comic fans, Whats your favorite.
Post by: Pak-Man on September 26, 2006, 11:30:39 AM
Oh yeah! Tennapel's the man! (Creator of Earthworm Jim, for the gamers out there.) He's got heart and style.

http://www.tennapel.com/

Title: Re: To comic fans, Whats your favorite.
Post by: Tyrant on September 26, 2006, 11:40:48 AM

  Can you imagine if Mike and crew riffed on Sockbaby?  ;D
Title: Re: To comic fans, Whats your favorite.
Post by: BathTub on September 26, 2006, 01:43:46 PM
Bit of an Alan Moore fanboy, From Hell, Watchmen, League of Extraordinary Gentlemen 1 & 2 (haven't ordered the third yet)
Bit of a JMS fanboy too, Rising Stars, Supreme Power, Midnight Nation

plus Hellboy and Sandman

and waiting for my delivery of Truth, Justin....
Title: Re: To comic fans, Whats your favorite.
Post by: Sharktopus on September 26, 2006, 05:43:58 PM
POWERS - Is it cool to diss Bendis yet? this book rocks and he's just brilliant

I loves me some Bendis, and I enjoy Powers, but only in trades. When it moved to Icon I picked it up monthly for the first year and now I don't remember a lick of it. Back to trades I go. Same thing with Ultimate Spidey and Daredevil - damn good, but a little too decompressed. Brubaker's DD is a great follow-up - that one I get monthly.Poor Foggy...  ;)
Title: Re: To comic fans, Whats your favorite.
Post by: Road_Element on September 26, 2006, 06:24:52 PM
Personally i really liked Bendis's retailing of the origins of Spider-woman. As for the All-Star Line of comics. I really like All-Star Superman especially the first issues with Superman and Lois. But i really dont like All-Star Batman all that well. Its just the batman i know would never slap around Robin or Alfred. Plus i dont know if anyone eles as heard of Ragman. But the 1990 mini-series was just great.

(http://www.mycomicshop.com/res/unprocessed/fullsize/B311U001.jpg)
Title: Re: To comic fans, Whats your favorite.
Post by: Pak-Man on September 26, 2006, 07:53:06 PM
So what's everyone thinking of Civil War, so far? There have been many very shocking moments and we're only 4 issues in. :^)
Title: Re: To comic fans, Whats your favorite.
Post by: Tarantulas on September 26, 2006, 09:58:04 PM
Nothing beats Marvel Zombies...

come on!  Its Marvel AND Zombies!
Title: Re: To comic fans, Whats your favorite.
Post by: ScottotD on September 27, 2006, 05:10:44 AM
Marvel Zombies is by the Walking Dead guy (who's name I forget and can't be arsed looking up because I'm drunk) is it funny or weird or what?
Title: Re: To comic fans, Whats your favorite.
Post by: SaucyRossy on September 27, 2006, 10:36:17 AM
So what's everyone thinking of Civil War, so far? There have been many very shocking moments and we're only 4 issues in. :^)
I like it...but it just seems that almost everyone even including the 'good guys' are acting alittle out of character.
Title: Re: To comic fans, Whats your favorite.
Post by: Pak-Man on September 27, 2006, 11:08:23 AM
Marvel Zombies is by the Walking Dead guy (who's name I forget and can't be arsed looking up because I'm drunk) is it funny or weird or what?

Little of column A, little of column B. It has its humorous elements, but it's also very disturbing at times. :^)
Title: Re: To comic fans, Whats your favorite.
Post by: Tyrant on September 27, 2006, 11:48:24 AM

   I thought the whole situation with the Hulk eating tons of people and then turning back into Bruce Banner with tons of people still in him was handled in a really cool way.
Title: Re: To comic fans, Whats your favorite.
Post by: Sharktopus on September 28, 2006, 08:49:54 AM
(http://www.mycomicshop.com/res/unprocessed/fullsize/B311U001.jpg)

Ragman's currently starring in the Shadowpact ongoing, spun out of the excellent Day Of Vengeance Infinity Crisis tie-in mini, along with Blue Devil and my man Bobo, the Detective Chimp.

Marvel Zombies and Walking Dead are writtten by Robert Kirkman, who writes all the best books nowadays. I'll buy anything with his name on it.

I'm enjoying Civil War, even though it makes NO SENSE. "Hmm, we got both live action and animated Iron Man movies coming up, so let's make him the arch-villain of our universe!" Can't wait to see how Joe Q retcons his way out of this mess.
Title: Re: To comic fans, Whats your favorite.
Post by: Pak-Man on September 28, 2006, 09:07:24 AM
Iron Man isn't a villian. He's on the GOVERNMENT'S side!

Or does that make him a villian.. :^)
Title: Re: To comic fans, Whats your favorite.
Post by: Tyrant on September 28, 2006, 10:56:37 AM

    I don't think he's a villian. I don't think Captain America is wrong either, though. Hence the moral challenge of the story arc. There are rights and wrongs on both sides. One has to choose which has more rights and wrongs from their perspective to pick a side.


   
Title: Re: To comic fans, Whats your favorite.
Post by: Road_Element on September 28, 2006, 11:45:26 AM
Personally i really wish they would hire someone eles for editor at Marvel. Joe Q has screwed up so many thing. I mean Gwen Stacy would never have sex with a greasy old man who was also known as the Green Goblin. Sorry but when they did that. They totally pissed me off. I think once Joe Q leaves Marvel as editor. I think marvel is going to have a little "Crisis" of its own.
Title: Re: To comic fans, Whats your favorite.
Post by: Tyrant on September 28, 2006, 02:28:48 PM

   Hm...been out of the loop a while with Spiderman. I thought Gwen was dead or something. Are things different for Gwen in the Ultimate universe?
Title: Re: To comic fans, Whats your favorite.
Post by: Pak-Man on September 28, 2006, 02:36:35 PM
You could say that. :^) But I think we're talking regular universe since Bendis pretty much rules the Ultimate Universe.
Title: Re: To comic fans, Whats your favorite.
Post by: J-Proof on September 28, 2006, 02:47:51 PM
James O'Barr - THE CROW
Title: Re: To comic fans, Whats your favorite.
Post by: starfighter on September 28, 2006, 02:51:33 PM
  Tyrant,  Gwen is still dead in the regular Marvel universe, but since they brought Norman Osborn/Green Goblin back from the dead, they did a god-awful flashback storyline where Gwen was seduced by Norman's power, I guess, Who Knows!!  Anyhow, she disappeared for a while and had twins fathered by Norman ....oh, god, make it go away....
   I think we're all trying to forget about it.  Now ask about the story where Peter dies and is reborn out of the dry husk of his dead body.  I shit you not.
Title: Re: To comic fans, Whats your favorite.
Post by: Tyrant on September 28, 2006, 03:41:53 PM

    Wow. The thing with Gwen almost sounds as bad as the whole Spiderman clone thing. I'm afraid to ask about Peter hatching alive and well out of his own dead body. That's an X-Files episode, right there (if the show were still around).


    I would say The Crow is one of the saddest stories in all of comicbookdom. Sad in its invention, conception, and execution. The original book had this scene where Eric is burning the house and everything in it that he and Shelly owned. A panel shows him watching one of Shelly's shoes aflame with tears running down his face. That's the only time a comic has ever made me genuinely tear up.
Title: Re: To comic fans, Whats your favorite.
Post by: Sharktopus on September 28, 2006, 03:48:07 PM
I don't think he's a villian. I don't think Captain America is wrong either, though. Hence the moral challenge of the story arc. There are rights and wrongs on both sides. One has to choose which has more rights and wrongs from their perspective to pick a side.

Not a villain, per se, but Tony's certainly being portrayed as the antagonist of the story - which in a comic book universe that usually has predetermined "good guys" and "bad guys" - makes him the defacto villain.

I think once Joe Q leaves Marvel as editor. I think marvel is going to have a little "Crisis" of its own.

I like Joey Q a lot, myself. I'd place most of the blame on JMS for screwing up Spidey so bad. I dunno why Quesada keeps letting him do it, though. And mark my words, within the next two years Peter will be back to the classic costume, the stupid stingers in his arms will be gone, and MJ will be dead. They'll probably keep the organic webshooters, though. Place your bets now.
Title: Re: To comic fans, Whats your favorite.
Post by: starfighter on September 28, 2006, 08:55:04 PM
     I don't know how many watched "Who Wants to be a Super-Hero" but it was ironic that within a few days of Peter Parker revealing his secret identity in Civil War 2,  Stan Lee had a challenge for the contestants that all but two blew by giving their real name to a waiter/waitress.  His rule "A super-hero NEVER reveals their secret identity."  I bet Stan hasn't read an issue of Spidey in years.
Title: Re: To comic fans, Whats your favorite.
Post by: Pak-Man on September 28, 2006, 09:00:03 PM

Not a villain, per se, but Tony's certainly being portrayed as the antagonist of the story - which in a comic book universe that usually has predetermined "good guys" and "bad guys" - makes him the defacto villain.


This is one unique case where the good guy/bad guy thing isn't quite so black and white. From the perspective of the government, Captain America's the bad guy. The perspective is what changes it, and every book has its own perspective. It's hard for a freedom loving country like us to root for the oppressors, but there are some Civil War tie-ins that are making me do just that.
Title: Re: To comic fans, Whats your favorite.
Post by: Tyrant on September 29, 2006, 12:01:50 PM

  That's just the thing, though. Tony doesn't see it as oppression. He's trying to save lives by having the actions of superpowered humans regulated. In real life, there probably wouldn't even be a long debate about a super powered registry. It would just happen. If normal people far outnumber superheroes/villians, the majority rules.
Title: Re: To comic fans, Whats your favorite.
Post by: Joe Don Faker on September 29, 2006, 12:13:03 PM
I don't know how many watched "Who Wants to be a Super-Hero" ... Stan Lee had a challenge for the contestants that all but two blew by giving their real name to a waiter/waitress.  His rule "A super-hero NEVER reveals their secret identity."  I bet Stan hasn't read an issue of Spidey in years.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v390/JoeDonFaker/stanlee_whowantstobeasuperhero_135.jpg)

Ha ha. It's fun to do imitations of Stan issuing those uber-serious statements on his show. 

"A superhero doesn't take lives, a superhero SAVES lives!"
"Major Victory, I'm afraid you're more a parody of a superhero than a real superhero!"

When doing the Stan voice I like to use one hand to pull my hair back on top of my head.  Gotta get me some amber vision glasses to complete the picture.
Title: Re: To comic fans, Whats your favorite.
Post by: Road_Element on September 29, 2006, 12:45:56 PM
Well everybody should know by now that Stan is the Man. Also dont forget Jack "The King" Kirby, Jazzin John Romita,  Gene "The Dean" Colan, & Swinging Steve Ditko
Title: Re: To comic fans, Whats your favorite.
Post by: Tyrant on October 02, 2006, 10:54:15 AM

  I can't believe they got Stan to do that show, though. I see it as sort of an insult on his dignity.
Title: Re: To comic fans, Whats your favorite.
Post by: JonnyFrag on October 06, 2006, 07:11:20 AM
Personally i really liked Bendis's retailing of the origins of Spider-woman. As for the All-Star Line of comics. I really like All-Star Superman especially the first issues with Superman and Lois. But i really dont like All-Star Batman all that well. Its just the batman i know would never slap around Robin or Alfred. Plus i dont know if anyone eles as heard of Ragman. But the 1990 mini-series was just great.

(http://www.mycomicshop.com/res/unprocessed/fullsize/B311U001.jpg)

I have that issue! Ragman was a decent read, a bit bizzarre givent he time as well.

I haven't really bought many comics since the early 90's glut, but there was some decent stuff back then. *warning-I am a superhero reader*
The Age of Apocalypse line in the X titles was pretty good (Evil Beast rocked!) and the Amagalm stuff was overall pretty good (although pandering to the fanboys in a big way)
But Kingdom Come was by far the best of it's time in my book.
Title: Re: To comic fans, Whats your favorite.
Post by: Kiiml on October 28, 2006, 03:40:31 PM
Strange...I loved Hellboy as a movie, but I dislike Mike Mignola's choppy drawing style.
Title: Re: To comic fans, Whats your favorite.
Post by: Sharktopus on October 29, 2006, 02:52:45 AM
(http://kebawe.com/bullons/images/hellboy2.jpg)
My French is a little rusty, but I think Hellboy is saying, "Kiiml smells."  ;)

Edit: Damn. Bad link. I'll have to upload it myself.
Title: Re: To comic fans, Whats your favorite.
Post by: Cap'n UKRiffer on October 29, 2006, 05:40:27 AM
My fave comics include

Evil Ernie
Shadowhawk
Teen Titans (80's)
Savage Dragon

my mate recently got me into 52 which i been enjoying as well.
We just had a comic store open in my town so looking to getting a whole lot more comics
Title: Re: To comic fans, Whats your favorite.
Post by: Sharktopus on October 29, 2006, 05:58:22 AM
Shadowhawk? *giggle*

My LCS just closed up, but I don't really mind since I regularly drove half and hour out of the way to go to a much better one. But now my backup is gone. I'll miss the fun of being able to say "I'm going to Stonehenge." No one who they were or what they were doing...
Title: Re: To comic fans, Whats your favorite.
Post by: Cap'n UKRiffer on October 29, 2006, 06:33:08 AM
Shadowhawk? *giggle*

and whats wrong with Shadowhawk?
Title: Re: To comic fans, Whats your favorite.
Post by: Sharktopus on October 29, 2006, 07:02:28 AM
Honestly, I know nothing about Shadowhawk other than he was one of the early Image characters. (Not a high pedigree.)
Title: Re: To comic fans, Whats your favorite.
Post by: Cap'n UKRiffer on October 29, 2006, 07:13:47 AM
Honestly, I know nothing about Shadowhawk other than he was one of the early Image characters. (Not a high pedigree.)

He's an interesting charecter. His backstory is he was a DA who, when he wouldn't back down to a mobsters threats, was injected with HIV infected blood, causing him to be infected himself. The attack was made public and his co workers and friends soon turned their backs on him (due to the small mindedness of what HIV was and meant) he ended up attacking a fellow colleague and was fired and jailed. He then decided to use the rest of his time fighting criminals and ended up donning a special armour which increased his strength and agility.
Another unique aspect was that not even the reader knew who his identity was at first, we saw Shadowhawk fight crime and then saw a number of charecters, any of which could have been him. Its an interesting read.
Title: Re: To comic fans, Whats your favorite.
Post by: Sharktopus on October 29, 2006, 08:01:26 AM
Another unique aspect was that not even the reader knew who his identity was at first, we saw Shadowhawk fight crime and then saw a number of charecters, any of which could have been him.

That bit sounds pretty cool. Kinda similar to an idea I had myself, actually.
Title: Re: To comic fans, Whats your favorite.
Post by: optimus357 on August 13, 2007, 06:00:07 PM
Has anyone else read the New Avengers?  I just got some Marvel subscriptions for my last birthday and I have been really enjoying that one even though they killed off Cap (my most favoritist guy ever).
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Post by: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on August 13, 2007, 07:52:46 PM
The Inferior Five

(http://www.tomheroes.com/images/COMIC%20showcase%2063%20inferior%20five.jpg)

The Rocketeer

(http://images.darkhorse.com/covers/300/r/rock3.jpg)
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Post by: Sharktopus on August 13, 2007, 10:35:52 PM
Has anyone else read the New Avengers?  I just got some Marvel subscriptions for my last birthday and I have been really enjoying that one even though they killed off Cap (my most favoritist guy ever).

I'm somehow enjoying the craziness in the Marvel U right now while simultaneously hating how they're treating some of my beloved characters. But I think that's the effect Quesada and Bendis are going for. The best Marvel stuff is on the fringes right now - Runaways, all the Annihilation stuff, and the Agents Of Atlas and Dr Strange: The Oath miniseries. I look forward to the not-too-distant future when all comics are miniseries. It's not like any of the monthlies stay on time anyway.
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Post by: optimus357 on August 14, 2007, 01:06:18 AM
The revelation that Elektra was a skrull and that perhaps the entire Civil War was orchestrated by skrulls to soften up Earth for invasion had me intrigued.  I wasn't into Doc Strange until TNA so I am totally interested in that new DVD he's in.  All the craziness in the Marvel realm has actually just been like a hot poker in my eye.  First they zap Cap, and then Spidey revels his secret identity.  Unless Marvel is going for a reinvention of superheroes as I know them, I don't see how they are going to make things right with that stuff.  That being said, I'll always have backissues!
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Post by: Pak-Man on August 14, 2007, 02:00:35 AM
I'm sticking with World War Hulk right now. It's not a deep arc, but it's a FUN arc. :^)
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Post by: Sharktopus on August 14, 2007, 11:57:41 AM
The revelation that Elektra was a skrull and that perhaps the entire Civil War was orchestrated by skrulls to soften up Earth for invasion had me intrigued.  I wasn't into Doc Strange until TNA so I am totally interested in that new DVD he's in.  All the craziness in the Marvel realm has actually just been like a hot poker in my eye.  First they zap Cap, and then Spidey revels his secret identity.  Unless Marvel is going for a reinvention of superheroes as I know them, I don't see how they are going to make things right with that stuff.  That being said, I'll always have backissues!

Dr Strange is acting awfully weird in New Avengers, though. I wouldn't be surpised if he turns out to have a wrinkly green chin. I liked the recent Wizard article handicapping who might be a Skrull. But Wizard based all their specualtion on the assumption that Marvel actually planned this out, and isn't just back-pedaling, trying to dig out the continuity hole they dug. Although, Skrulls have made important appearances in Young Avengers and Runaways. Hey, maybe I'm a Skrull...
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Post by: Mr. 420 on August 14, 2007, 01:49:20 PM
I am slowly getting back into comics since playing Marvel Ultimate Alliance...I was always a big Punisher fan especially the 10 armory issues and the final countdown...must say I haven't seen or heard of anything from him since then(besides that embarrassing run in with Travolta) but thats also when I sort of "gave up" on comics...also I used to love the what if? series....also batman and spidey
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Post by: optimus357 on August 14, 2007, 02:09:20 PM
Yeah Ultimate Alliance did a great job of putting all the best guys all in one game.  I might be an idiot but I could almost throw Cap's in game shield all day long.  I was surprised that Punisher didn't make an appearance but I suppose he was busy shooting rocket launchers through windows while rappelling down the side of an apartment building.  I think he has at least 1 ongoing series with Marvel, if not 2!  And for my final piece, I was wondering why everyone is so concerned that everyone else might be a skrull.  I didn't think they could just adopt super powers like they do shape, so I don't see why Luke Cage is hassling Spidey about being one.  And! And!  I didn't think about Doc being a skrull cause I just had some inherent trust for him. 
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Post by: Tyrant on August 14, 2007, 02:35:10 PM
The revelation that Elektra was a skrull and that perhaps the entire Civil War was orchestrated by skrulls to soften up Earth for invasion had me intrigued.  I wasn't into Doc Strange until TNA so I am totally interested in that new DVD he's in.  All the craziness in the Marvel realm has actually just been like a hot poker in my eye.  First they zap Cap, and then Spidey revels his secret identity.  Unless Marvel is going for a reinvention of superheroes as I know them, I don't see how they are going to make things right with that stuff.  That being said, I'll always have backissues!

Dr Strange is acting awfully weird in New Avengers, though. I wouldn't be surpised if he turns out to have a wrinkly green chin. I liked the recent Wizard article handicapping who might be a Skrull. But Wizard based all their specualtion on the assumption that Marvel actually planned this out, and isn't just back-pedaling, trying to dig out the continuity hole they dug. Although, Skrulls have made important appearances in Young Avengers and Runaways. Hey, maybe I'm a Skrull...

   Oh, Marvel had better NOT back out on this one. Yeah, they've made a lot of changes that would be hard to write their way out of, but I think that's a good thing. It's too much to hope that Captain America will stay dead (nothing against Cap. I love Cap. But I hate it when characters get constantly killed and brought back), but if Marvel backs out of all the big changes brought about from the last few major storylines using Skrulls or time travel or other dimensions or what not, they're losing a reader. Don't mess up a universe unless you intend to let that universe stay messed up.
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Post by: optimus357 on August 14, 2007, 06:05:25 PM
I sort of thought of it as like skrulls lit the spark on the whole Civil War and what we saw is was the actual fire.  Less of a back out and more of a twist.  How lame is it that Captain America dies by a sniper.  I mean you can kill anyone with a sniper.  That isn't even a fight.  The only one who might be immune to that is Spidey or the bulletproof crowd.  Even so, how dare they kill my boy and then use the excuse that, "uhhh the story sort of leads us to where we are going next".  I don't see at all how Civil War = Captain America gets sniped in an elaborate plot by the Red Skull.  I agree characters should stay dead, but let's just revive this last one really quick for me please!
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Post by: Sharktopus on August 14, 2007, 11:37:55 PM
How lame is it that Captain America dies by a sniper.  I mean you can kill anyone with a sniper.  That isn't even a fight.  The only one who might be immune to that is Spidey or the bulletproof crowd.  Even so, how dare they kill my boy and then use the excuse that, "uhhh the story sort of leads us to where we are going next".  I don't see at all how Civil War = Captain America gets sniped in an elaborate plot by the Red Skull.  I agree characters should stay dead, but let's just revive this last one really quick for me please!

I love Cap, and I'm pissed that he's dead, but I do have to admit that he went out brilliantly. Taking a bullet while trying to protect people is how he'd want to die, for what that's worth.

I am slowly getting back into comics since playing Marvel Ultimate Alliance...I was always a big Punisher fan especially the 10 armory issues and the final countdown...must say I haven't seen or heard of anything from him since then(besides that embarrassing run in with Travolta) but thats also when I sort of "gave up" on comics...also I used to love the what if? series....also batman and spidey

Frank's got two ongoing's right now - the superviolent Punisher under the MAX mature readers imprint, and the almost too entertaining Punisher War Journal, which is set firmly in the Marvel U proper.
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Post by: optimus357 on August 15, 2007, 12:59:00 AM
I keep seeing confusing images of him on Marvel.com with some sort of crazy get up on.  Something about Flag Smasher?
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Post by: Sharktopus on August 15, 2007, 02:12:41 AM
I keep seeing confusing images of him on Marvel.com with some sort of crazy get up on.  Something about Flag Smasher?

I haven't read it yet, but from what I understand, some bad guy was dressed up like Cap, so Frank riddled him with bullets and decided to incorporate some of Cap's costume elements in honor of one of the few heroes he respected. It looks pretty damn goofy, which is how I like my Punisher.

By the way, I'm putting my prediction down in writing right now: By the end of Alex Ross's upcoming Avengers/Invaders mini, we'll have Cap back in the Marvel U, but it'll be Golden Age Cap, fresh from the '40s, with no memory of his time since being frozen - because he won't ever have been frozen. Ah, sweet time travel. Marvel's gotten some decent man-out-of-time stuff from Ultimate Cap, so they're gonna try to freshen up regular Cap in a similar manner. Hopefully without the Ultimate asshole stuff, though. Reboot!
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Post by: optimus357 on August 15, 2007, 02:23:50 AM
I've been wracking my brain thinking of the classiest way to bring him back and my friend, you've done it for me!  If they did that he would have to refriend his old friends and things would get really hairy, but the alternative would be for me to just let my inner child die, and that would be cruel.  I thought the Ultimate Avengers animated movie was pretty good but mostly because it had some cool fighting and a lot of Cap goings on.
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Post by: Sharktopus on August 15, 2007, 06:46:52 AM
The Ultimate Avengers movie has its good points - a much better reason for Banner to become the Hulk again again being the biggest, but it's like the animators and voice actors were competing to see who can give a more wooden performance. And Olivia D'abo's Russian accent makes my skin crawl, like she just got back from chasing mooze unt skvirrel. And the Black Panther one? Meh. He magically transforms into a half-panther creature? Way to cheapen the character. I haven't bothered with the Iron man one yet, but I have high hopes for the newly released Dr Strange movie.

(http://i13.tinypic.com/67grdc9.jpg)

I really hope I'm close to the mark. That's the vibe I get from this project. What better way to sneak Cap back in than with fanboy-beloved Alex Ross? A Marvel U without Captain America is all kinds of wrong. By the way, in my book, the only hero that could legitimately carry Cap's shield - Luke Cage. Think about it.
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Post by: Hebs on August 15, 2007, 07:37:28 AM
The Inferior Five

The Rocketeer


Both of those are great choices - Dumb Bunny is hilariously bad.  I've always been a fan of the AirBoy and Valkyrie stuff. 
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Post by: Tyrant on August 15, 2007, 10:11:28 AM
I haven't bothered with the Iron man one yet, but I have high hopes for the newly released Dr Strange movie.

I really hope I'm close to the mark. That's the vibe I get from this project. What better way to sneak Cap back in than with fanboy-beloved Alex Ross? A Marvel U without Captain America is all kinds of wrong. By the way, in my book, the only hero that could legitimately carry Cap's shield - Luke Cage. Think about it.


  This probably belongs in the movie section, but I've gotta say I'm liking the Dr.Strange movie better than the Iron Man one so far (we haven't finished it yet).
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
I can't wait for Strange to start making his signs of the devil hands and whipping demon ass all over the place.

  And I also agree about Luke Cage. I thought about it and I'm coming up short for anyone else but him. Although what would stop Marvel from using a female character to shake things up a bit?
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Post by: optimus357 on August 15, 2007, 02:23:59 PM
Luke Cage has been winning points with me but I don't think he has quite the same kind of unshakeable character as Cap.  However the Falcon seems like he and Cap were kindred spirits, though I must admit, my knowledge of him is lacking.  Well it doesn't matter anyway cause Bucky stole the shield and he ain't gonna give it back!
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Post by: Sharktopus on August 16, 2007, 01:29:50 AM
Luke Cage has been winning points with me but I don't think he has quite the same kind of unshakeable character as Cap.  However the Falcon seems like he and Cap were kindred spirits, though I must admit, my knowledge of him is lacking.  Well it doesn't matter anyway cause Bucky stole the shield and he ain't gonna give it back!

My argument for Cage is that he's the most stands-up-for-what-he-believes, does-what-he-knows-is-right-no-matter-the-cost, won't-take-shit-from-nobody, can-kick-you-ass-just-by-looking-at-you-sideways guy in the whole Marvel Universe, which, to me, embodies the spirit of Captain America better than anybody. Yeah, the Falcon and Cap were good friends and partners, but that worked mostly because Falcon provided Cap with a different viewpoint, sort of like Cage and Iron Fist in Heroes For Hire or Denny O'Neill and Neal Adams' Green Lantern/Green Arrow. Also, let's face it, Falcon's lame - always has been, always will be. It's sad but true, whereas Luke Cage is one of Marvel's premier characters right now, with a John Singleton movie in the wings and everything.

And I also agree about Luke Cage. I thought about it and I'm coming up short for anyone else but him. Although what would stop Marvel from using a female character to shake things up a bit?

I don't see any problem with a female Captain America, but I can't think of anyone who really fits the bill. Plus, it would reek of publicity stunt. So would a black Cap, but they already did that with Isaiah Bradley (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isaiah_Bradley) in Truth: Red, White & Black.

Y'know, I'm a little afraid that if my prediction about Golden Age Cap is true, that he'll come back and be all "Negro superheroes? Golly! Could you go make me a sandwich, Ms Marvel?"
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Post by: Tyrant on August 16, 2007, 12:33:32 PM
Y'know, I'm a little afraid that if my prediction about Golden Age Cap is true, that he'll come back and be all "Negro superheroes? Golly! Could you go make me a sandwich, Ms Marvel?"

   That would get my vote as the most awesome comicbook scene in history. Especially when Ms.Marvel grabs the back of his head and smashes it into the wall. He'd only have to say something like that once. He'd be tough enough to survive with the knowledge that he shouldn't do it a second time.

   
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Post by: optimus357 on August 16, 2007, 08:50:12 PM
Best.  Idea.  Ever.
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Post by: Sharktopus on August 17, 2007, 12:34:24 AM
(http://i14.tinypic.com/6290db4.jpg).