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Title: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: RVR II on March 24, 2020, 02:49:53 AM
It's probably past time to have a dedicated thread for this CoronaVirus topic..
Mods & Members, feel free to move posts from other threads here.

Got reports that a student at our local Winthrop University had a confirmed case. Had several students come into the post office where I work.
Talked with the station manager and he read an email stating all Postal employees are considered 'essential' which is good and bad.. We will still have jobs but we are all placed at higher risk due to our frequent exposure to the public.
Makes it real difficult to stay safe around here   :-[
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: wihogfan on March 24, 2020, 05:14:25 AM
Wife's company- everyone laid off receiving regular email updates from CEO. CEO having regular conference calls with the few people still working.

My company- CEO had a company-wide conderence call at the beginning of February where he talked about the virus. Insists there is nothing that has changed since then that merits any kind of company-wide communition and that if employees had questions or concerns that should have asked them on his last call.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: goflyblind on March 24, 2020, 05:58:27 AM
the university has been closed for nearly two weeks now. stores (except grocery and pharmacy) and restaurants (except delivery) have been closed for a week and a half. finding regularly updated english news has been frustrating. apparently people haven't been doing social distancing well, so the government might implement stricter rules. i've only left my apartment three times (once for a walk, two grocery trips) in the past two weeks.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: RVR II on March 24, 2020, 06:33:30 AM
Our university has been closed for over 2 weeks as well and this student was unknowingly a carrier for possibly a month so it's unknown just how much he could have spread this virus  :-\
A lot of postal customers ask us daily what we're doing differently and a lot of us will wear those blue latex gloves but the ones in stock are too small for my hands so I just use hand sanitizer at the counter where I work and wash my hands when I can get away from the counter but still the close proximity while conducting transactions puts us at the greatest risk :-[
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: wihogfan on March 24, 2020, 07:00:08 AM
We were able to secure enough disfectant wipes to last 2 or 3 weeks. Have a schedule where every area gets wiped down once an hour. Some things (front door handle, copy machine) get wiped down before and after every use. Not allowing any outside visitors. Truck drivers have a small canopy outside and communicate via intercom when dropping off or picking up. Packages via UPS, USPS, and Fedex being delivered outside. Every package including all mail sprayed with lysol and sits for an hour before being opened.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: stansimpson on March 24, 2020, 07:02:14 AM
Our company gave us all Chromebooks to work from home. It's gone well. We're very fortunate that the companies we work with have streaming/online sales in place to keep things going while maintaining safety for everyone since ~90% of them shut their doors.

Fun story: Friday evening during work hours, I got permission to go back to the office and get my lunches that I accidentally left there. I was running low on food and wanted to avoid public grocery stores. Got some extra outerwear including gloves, went there, found an instruction sign for UPS/visitors on the door, went in, and grabbed my food. They give us free sodas, so I grabbed a few of those and a bottle of coffee creamer that is going to expire soon. This is the moment it felt truly apocalyptic. The whole "raid" reminded me of The Mist, especially the convenient store scene.

Supplies are running low again, so I'll be stopping by Walmart tomorrow. They close at 8:30pm now, and I get off work at 6pm. Should be interesting.

Aside from all this, my wife left out a full glass of water next to our one computer yesterday. You can guess what happened. Will be ordering a new one soon. Right now, we're relegated to our phones and will use my work computer if absolutely necessary. Really puts a damper on things, I must say.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: wihogfan on March 24, 2020, 07:21:19 AM
When word of toilet paper hoarding started in other areas of the country and I needed to buy toilet paper, I bought twice what I'd normally buy and despite the shortage not having hit here yet when I did it, I kind of felt guilty about it at the time. No longer feel guilty. Would have run out by now if I hadn't bought extra and it's close to impossible to find.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: goflyblind on March 24, 2020, 07:29:06 AM
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UPDATE: Poland brings in new restrictions in battle against coronavirus
 24.03.2020 15:19
   
Poland has ramped up its battle against the coronavirus, announcing that from Tuesday citizens, except families, will be allowed move around in groups of no more than two.

Health Minister Łukasz Szumowski said a ban was also being imposed on people leaving their homes except for vital journeys such as heading to work, to a shop or a pharmacy.

The ban does not apply to volunteers helping senior citizens.

On public transport, every other seat on buses or trams will have to remain unoccupied.
https://www.polskieradio.pl/395/7789/Artykul/2479811

well, okay then.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: Variety of Cells on March 24, 2020, 07:34:46 AM
Girlfriend and I are out of work.  She's a real estate broker in the city.  Thankfully the governor has specified that apartments can't be shown, otherwise her company would probably encourage her to keep working.  Her boss gave a 'The media is blowing this out of proportion' speech.  Yeahhhhhh.

I've been out of work for little over a week.  This will be day 10 of my quarantine.  I've managed to get on unemployment insurance before the system was flooded and became nearly impossible to apply for.  The week before was my unpaid waiting week, and I just checked in for my first paid week, which is last week.  Should be getting $504 a week.  Not much considering the rent for my two bedroom is $2,150, but enough to cover my other expenses plus part of rent.  With it, I should be good for quite some time with my savings.  I was seriously looking for a firm where I could do some ethical investing with some of the money I had saved in my checking account.  Yeah, definitely not doing that for a while.

We're hunkered down at my place.  Lots of bike rides, video games, movies, TV.  Started workout routine where I increase the numbers every day of the quarantine.  Not sure how much longer I can keep some of it up.  I'm up to 21 pushups, 55 sit ups, and a 1 minute 10 second plank. 
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on March 24, 2020, 07:36:33 AM
I was just looking at the statistics from my aircraft spotter antenna data, normally I pick up about 3000 aircraft a day, it is now down to just under 2000. 
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: RVR II on March 24, 2020, 07:46:58 AM
Sold a comforter set on ebay last night and FedEx beat USPS by a few dollars so I went to Walgreens near my house at 730am and they changed their hours from 9am to 9pm and no one bothered to change the hours on the website!
Found another FedEx drop off at a Dollar General on the way to the post office so I took it there. Turns out I was their first ever FedEx drop off customer :o I was wearing my postal uniform and they asked me why I was shipping FedEx and told them they beat our postal prices and I gotta save a few dollars  especially nowadays. .
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: RVR II on March 24, 2020, 08:02:26 AM
While working the counters at the 3 different post offices in town and also the small post office in the next county south I notice some customers respect the 6ft space between others but a lot dont. It seems rude and disrespectful when you try to keep your distance from people but it's unfortunately becoming the new norm.. No shouting matches yet but I think altercations could be a possibility  :-\
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: RVR II on March 24, 2020, 12:16:54 PM
Restaurants here have shifted to curb-side order pick ups only or are shutting down completely.
Tried to place a curb-side order at a local restaurant and no one answered the phone. Left a post on their FB page and after 3 hours they said they were temporarily closed.
Would have been nice to leave a post informing us or a voice message for customers to know about this  :-\
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: wihogfan on March 24, 2020, 05:05:05 PM
CEO called a conference call for noon to finally address employee concerns. Conference call canceled at 11:55 am...email downplaying crises sent out instead including a few jokes that totally weren't in line with what was needed...rest of my day spent trying to calm down understandably pissed off employees.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: linszoid on March 24, 2020, 05:16:45 PM
I thought I was going to have a vacation but apparently my business is essential in the state of Ohio.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: stansimpson on March 24, 2020, 06:36:41 PM
Update from my last post: Let our computer sit in rice for a day. Can't believe it actually worked, but, yep, it's totally back on now.  :O

Now I can enjoy this quarantine a little more. And Walmart doesn't close until 8:30pm, so I don't have to rush when I get off work.

I also hear Greenwise Market and Whole Foods have bread and basic necessities other places don't. Speculation is the rich parts of town aren't hoarding. I hesitate to visit multiple places, but I may wind up doing so. We'll see tomorrow.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: wihogfan on March 24, 2020, 07:03:01 PM
Glad to hear rice trick worked for you. Had it work for a cellphone several years ago. Didn't work for me with a laptop a couple of years ago though. Everything continued to work but keyboard and trackpad, but using a laptop with an external keyboard and mouse kills most of the purpose of having a laptop vs a desktop.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: wihogfan on March 24, 2020, 07:17:01 PM
Used to run to Walmart a couple of times a week before work. Was always nice being able to shop in a virtually empty store. Was tempted to do it today despite store not being as empty as it was at that time of day anymore. Had some wants but not needs so thought better of it and didn't go. Will go when I have a real need. Seems ridiculous that toilet paper is likely going to be the need that will soon require hitting multiple stores hoping to get lucky.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: Pak-Man on March 24, 2020, 08:08:45 PM
I've had luck hitting up Walgreens for some of the harder-to-find items.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: Toranaga on March 25, 2020, 06:48:40 AM
I've been watching all the coverage.  How come they never point out that the more vectors and the longer time of exposure the more intense the infection?  People think getting sick is a binary situation.  It isn't.  Seems to me an important point.  Especially for health workers.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: Pak-Man on March 25, 2020, 11:17:07 AM
I was literally trying to get a hair appointment a week and a half ago, because I'm getting uncomfortably shaggy, but I couldn't get in with anyone. Now I'm REALLY uncomfortably shaggy and barbers/hairstylists are not considered an essential business. By the time this apocalypse is over, I'm gonna look the part.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: Darth Geek on March 25, 2020, 12:48:21 PM
I was literally trying to get a hair appointment a week and a half ago, because I'm getting uncomfortably shaggy, but I couldn't get in with anyone. Now I'm REALLY uncomfortably shaggy and barbers/hairstylists are not considered an essential business. By the time this apocalypse is over, I'm gonna look the part.

Pak when this is all over:

(https://www.wykop.pl/cdn/c3201142/comment_QWqNdPflAuwirYtJCMhO87ceTHVFYM7B,w400.jpg)
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: Charles Castle on March 25, 2020, 01:34:41 PM
https://youtube.com/v/LEuoiKNUfdI

We have the technology. We can rebuild him.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on March 25, 2020, 02:51:43 PM
Went to Target this afternoon to get some groceries, what a surreal experience, X marks on the floor of the checkout lines to keep people separated, announcements telling people to stay 6 feet apart.  Still no laundry bleach, didn't look at toilet paper since I have enough for 2 months, snack food was restocked, bread and pasta gone, flour almost gone but I got enough to use my bread machine for several weeks.  I did manage to get enough stuff so I shouldn't have to go shopping again for 2 to 3 weeks.

I first tried to go to Trader Joe's but there was a line outside the door, it's a cramped store so I guess they were only letting a few people in at a time.  Looked like about 25 people in line and it was raining a little so I went to Target instead, the people in line were right up against each other.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: stansimpson on March 25, 2020, 03:16:48 PM
I was literally trying to get a hair appointment a week and a half ago, because I'm getting uncomfortably shaggy, but I couldn't get in with anyone. Now I'm REALLY uncomfortably shaggy and barbers/hairstylists are not considered an essential business. By the time this apocalypse is over, I'm gonna look the part.

Pak when this is all over:


(https://i.imgur.com/9RCgpZB.jpg)
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: RVR II on March 25, 2020, 04:17:17 PM
Went to Walmart and Dollar Tree and they were both still out of TP.. Walmart had an announcement every couple of songs about safety and preventative action against the virus. Store hours changed from 24 hours to 8am - 8:30pm. Still had some bare shelves in the aisles but was still able to find most of what we needed. Gas was $1.81 which I topped my tank off at  $13.00.
Also got an automated phone call from the post office reconfirming that we are considered essential employees and that we are to report to work as scheduled. Thanks for the inspirational message ::)
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: CJones on March 25, 2020, 05:09:03 PM
My sister sold her house about a month ago, and now it's up in the air whether the new house will be ready in time to move into. Unfortunately, the people that bought her curent house want to move in, and my sister doesn't have anywhere to move to.

On a more positive note, I found toilet paper today, at Walgreens. So yeah, definitely check them out.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: wihogfan on March 25, 2020, 05:16:50 PM
Was driving by grocery store at lunch. Parking lot almost empty. Stopped. Yea! TP aisle full. Limit 1 per person. Have TP and paper towels and there was no one in line at checkout. Probably should have spent a few more minutes shopping, but so excited to get TP that I just grabbed it and ran.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: wihogfan on March 25, 2020, 05:43:47 PM
Morning radio on the way into work..talking about an online TP calculator where you put in the average number of times you shit in a day and then the number of rolls you have on hand and the calculator tells you how many days until you will run out...for 1 shit a day, 12 rolls was supposed to last you 176 days...either calculator was totally fubared or I must shit like 12 times a day and not realize it.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: wihogfan on March 25, 2020, 05:53:51 PM
And gas here $1.37.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: Pak-Man on March 25, 2020, 06:29:36 PM
Used my supermarket discount to get it down to $1.15. I filled up my tank like it's 1999.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: CJones on March 25, 2020, 07:50:52 PM
Nobody's driving anywhere, do demand for gas has gone way down. I can't even remember the last time gas was under $2 around here. I saw it earlier today for $1.89.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: CJones on March 25, 2020, 07:55:20 PM
I went to the doctor's office on Monday (for something unrelated to Covid). They didn't allow more than two people be in the waiting room, which meant I had to wait outside for 20 minutes. Then when the doctor did see me, she was actually in a different room and we teleconferenced. One of the nurses was constantly wiping everything down; windows, counters, computers etc. You guys are scaring me :speechless:
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: wihogfan on March 25, 2020, 08:00:06 PM
Doesn't seem that long ago...vehicle I bought before the one I have now...bought a gas guzzler...gas at $2.50 when purchased...job changed a month later that required me to drive 200+ miles a day and gas shot up to $4 a gallon and stayed over $3.50 for a long time. OK was probably 10 years ago, but man, just think of the extra money I could have put into my 401k and lost over the last 2 weeks if gas was $1.50 a gallon back then.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: RVR II on March 26, 2020, 12:13:43 AM
You know it's serious when Waffle House closes down  :scared:
https://www.wafb.com/2020/03/24/waffle-house-closes-locations-across-us/
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: RVR II on March 26, 2020, 12:16:26 AM
My old Quality Assurance boss at Black & Decker posted that someone in their Fort Mill, SC Distribution Center tested positive for the virus yesterday.. She sounded pretty stressed about it :-[
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: RVR II on March 26, 2020, 12:20:32 AM
Also got an automated phone call from the post office reconfirming that we are considered essential employees and that we are to report to work as scheduled. Thanks for the inspirational message ::)
Here's the actual message I got..
(https://i.imgur.com/wzaurnZ.jpg)
Again, very inspirational :-X
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: stansimpson on March 26, 2020, 07:57:01 AM
Well... Did the Walmart trip last night. Parking was eerily great. Plenty of aisles were full and others were picked bare (noodles, bread, meat, rice, TP, etc.). Fortunately they had everything we needed except rice. Got the 2nd to last of the beef and last of the mac & cheese. Spent over a $100 on groceries (hoping that should put us 3 weeks out though it may be 2). And I felt like a total jackass by the end. My cart was brimming while others had reasonable loads.

Worst part was when I was getting frozen burritos (I eat 2 and my kid eats 1 for lunch every day). As I was getting them, the aisle was getting more people and the Walmart Grocery pick-up lady was patiently waiting on me to finish loading. Finally just threw the last one in and bolted. I kept repeating to myself "This is to avoid multiple trips. This is for the safety of everyone. The fewer trips, the better." Still felt like a jackass.

No, the truly worst part is the guy checking out my groceries was wearing fingerless gloves!!! WTF!?! Somebody needs to tell me what's the point of fingerless gloves in a global pandemic! I made good use of the store soap dispenser and washed my hands probably 4 times in 10 minutes after getting home.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on March 26, 2020, 08:12:07 AM
No, the truly worst part is the guy checking out my groceries was wearing fingerless gloves!!! WTF!?! Somebody needs to tell me what's the point of fingerless gloves in a global pandemic! I made good use of the store soap dispenser and washed my hands probably 4 times in 10 minutes after getting home.

Does their checkout computer have a touch screen?  That's the only reason I can think of to need bare fingers.  Or they have a latex allergy and they couldn't find nitrile gloves.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: stansimpson on March 26, 2020, 08:37:57 AM
No, the truly worst part is the guy checking out my groceries was wearing fingerless gloves!!! WTF!?! Somebody needs to tell me what's the point of fingerless gloves in a global pandemic! I made good use of the store soap dispenser and washed my hands probably 4 times in 10 minutes after getting home.

Does their checkout computer have a touch screen?  That's the only reason I can think of to need bare fingers.  Or they have a latex allergy and they couldn't find nitrile gloves.
Good thinking, but it was the standard push-button register. I noticed all the other register people had standard latex gloves. Except for one person who wasn't wearing any. So I guess it could've been worse. Lol
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: RVR II on March 26, 2020, 08:59:01 AM
Just got a memo that we at at the post office counter need to put tables in front of the counter to maintain a 6 ft away from the counter so I got what tables I could find and of course they're not long enough so people just walk beside them to within 4 ft of me..
PERFECT! ! ::)
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on March 26, 2020, 03:20:29 PM
Philly was trying to rent and pay for upkeep of Hahnemann hospital that closed last fall, but the a-holes that own the building said they wouldn't rent it, but they would sell it to the city...   So an empty hospital in the middle of the city won't be getting used during this crisis.

Also sounds like the owners have let the building fall apart, so I guess it would have cost the city too much anyway to get it habitable again.

Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: RVR II on March 26, 2020, 03:34:22 PM
Sounds like the former navy hospital in Charleston SC except it is owned by the city but has fallen into such disrepair that it probably wouldn't be worth fixing and should just be torn down  :-[
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on March 26, 2020, 05:25:03 PM
Sounds like the former navy hospital in Charleston SC except it is owned by the city but has fallen into such disrepair that it probably wouldn't be worth fixing and should just be torn down  :-[

Only with the place in Philly it was real estate developers that bought the hospital a few years ago and purposely ran it into the ground so they could sell the property for a lot more.  Of course they say they "tried" to keep in in business, but they took a hospital that was breaking even, only one in that area of the city, and within a year (or 2?) they were filing for bankruptcy and shutting down.  Pretty obvious what they did, but they didn't do anything technically illegal so they got away with it.  At some point there will be million dollar condos going up after the hospital is torn down.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: MrTorso on March 26, 2020, 06:03:32 PM
My day job closed down last wednesday. It was to be for 2 weeks (til April 4), then the governor (MA) closed all non essential businesses until April 7 (for now). Yesterday they terminated all part time employees (still paid promised corona pay and whatever PTO was banked) today all the full timers got furloughed. Still an employee but after my corona pay and PTO I have banked that is all she wrote until I can go back to work.  We are allowed to file for unemployment so I did. We will see what the future holds...

Still have my little webshop (http://www.bigmeanpunk.com) selling various pinback buttons and patches but no one is buying fun stuff right now. I am keeping it going because I enjoy it and it doesn't cost too much to keep running. Still making new ones and now that I have lots of time I can work on it more. This gem is going up soon:

(https://i.ibb.co/yh6jb4t/Trump-Vs-Corona.jpg) (https://imgbb.com/)
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: RVR II on March 27, 2020, 03:22:51 AM
Turnabout Is Fair Play.. :o
Coronavirus: Mexicans demand crackdown on Americans crossing the border
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52053656
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: Pastor of Muppets on March 27, 2020, 08:48:10 AM
I'm in northeastern Illinois, about 60 miles north of Chicago.  The company I work for makes packaging labels for food and hygiene products and various consumables.  We're essential so it's mostly business as usual.  Except that employees who aren't critical to being on site have to work from home.  I'm a programmer, so that's what I'm doing.

Illinois has one of those shelter in place orders, but I don't usually have anywhere to be anyway.  I go to the grocery store or the bank when I need to.  The stocks of toilet paper and paper towels are being gradually replenished.  They're not back where they used to be, but it's no longer difficult to find these things.  I can't get hand sanitizer or the ingredients to make hand sanitizer anywhere.  I wash my hands a lot but it would be nice to be able to have something portable.  It'd be nice to sanitize in my car right after leaving a store or gas pump. 

I hope things get back to normal before the Rifftrax Live show in June.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: Russoguru on March 27, 2020, 11:48:36 AM
Turnabout Is Fair Play.. :o
Coronavirus: Mexicans demand crackdown on Americans crossing the border
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52053656
They would have to build a wall because lord knows that piece of shit wall Trump built is already falling down like my pants in Adult Model Angela White's bedroom.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: CJones on March 27, 2020, 12:14:31 PM
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/26/health/usa-coronavirus-cases.html (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/26/health/usa-coronavirus-cases.html)

USA is #1!...

...in number of confirmed cases of Covid-19. That's right, we're ahead of even China, a country much more densely populated, and the place the virus started.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: Russoguru on March 27, 2020, 12:17:35 PM
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/26/health/usa-coronavirus-cases.html (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/26/health/usa-coronavirus-cases.html)
USA is #1!...
...in number of confirmed cases of Covid-19. That's right, we're ahead of even China, a country much more densely populated, and the place the virus started.
Trump will probably say we're number 1! And find a way to credit himself or something or blame Obama, or Democrats, or something, anyone but himself.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: wihogfan on March 27, 2020, 12:31:28 PM
Woohoo! Needed bread and grocery store finally stocked up to a more normal level. Items like disinfectant wipes and hand sanitizer sold out, but grilling steak for dinner. People were doing a good job of distancing and there were sneeze guards set up at all the checkout lines.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: Pak-Man on March 27, 2020, 12:46:32 PM
School's out for summer (hopefully not forever) here in NM. Details to come on how my son it's supposed to stay educated and whether he gets to move on to 3rd grade or start 2nd over or what. No matter what, it's a long way to August.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: Pak-Man on March 27, 2020, 12:48:23 PM
Also, let's keep the Trump talk down in the inferno. Not a whole lot of disagreement in these parts, but rules are rules.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: CJones on March 27, 2020, 03:13:25 PM
Went to Walmart today. Almost all of the registers had been replaced with those self service machines. I can understand why, but I still really hate those things.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: stansimpson on March 27, 2020, 03:45:51 PM
Went to Walmart today. Almost all of the registers had been replaced with those self service machines. I can understand why, but I still really hate those things.
Our nearest one had that done about a year ago. Really came in handy now! They usually only keep about 4 manned registers open total. I would use the self service machine every time if we didn't have to go to a manned register for using our WIC card for some of our items.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: Russoguru on March 27, 2020, 04:12:46 PM
Also, let's keep the Trump talk down in the inferno. Not a whole lot of disagreement in these parts, but rules are rules.
Right, sorry.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: wihogfan on March 27, 2020, 04:58:53 PM
Walmart near me went to the 80+% self checkout about 3 weeks ago. Kind of bad timing.

Amazing how quickly we can change our way of thinking. At work the mantra "social distancing" whenever anyone gets within 6 feet from one another gets said so often that it already seems normal. On way home from work, saw 3 adults out for a walk, walking side-by-side and I had to stop myself from rolling down my window and saying "hey, social distancing".
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: RVR II on March 27, 2020, 05:37:33 PM
THIS.. is ALL TP that someone scarfed up around here and has resold it (possibly on ebay)!
At the Post Office, we call these giant aluminum 'tanks', BMCs. They are 6ft tall by 6ft long by 3.5ft wide and I filled it completely full of TP orders! Really pissed me off seeing this but all I could do was do my job and send them on their way to Charlotte to be processed..
(https://i.imgur.com/6uxwPCk.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/I3wt3VB.jpg)
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on March 27, 2020, 06:50:53 PM
Last several days the number of aircraft my ADSB antenna picks up has dropped dramatically.
Times of day that I would normally see over 120 aircraft in the sky are now down to only around 40.

(https://www.science.widener.edu/~schultz/temp/aircraftdropoff.jpg)

Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: wihogfan on March 28, 2020, 08:05:25 AM
Finally got my wife to understand that her planned trip in 3 weeks to go see her mother just isn't going to happen. She was trying to make the argument that current prices on flights, rental car, and hotel would make it a cheap trip and that chances are airports would be far emptier than normal. All true, but no guarantee that the ban of visitors to her mother's assisted living facility will be lifted by then and even if the ban is lifted by then that there won't be restrictions on visitors who have traveled recently. Really sucks, but that's the reality.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: Quirk on March 28, 2020, 12:52:51 PM
My wife eviscerated my aunt on Facebook. My aunt has always been just... dumb. She's a very successful holistic medicine "doctor" and just generally knows jack shit about existence. She torpedoes every relationship and that whole side of the family is divided based on her current fights with other family members. She has always supported me with large donations to the Cystic Fibrosis Foundation, so I've always felt conflicted about her. However, today she shared some dangerous BS video about COVID-19 being no bigger deal than anything else and that we shouldn't be shutting anything down over it. Just to drive home how brain-boilingly stupid this is, the other health problems that kill more people than COVID-19 cited in this video are things like seasonal flu and heart disease. Things with vaccines and things that are not contagious. And, well, the list of logical fallacies here just goes on into infinity.

My wife commented that members of my aunt's family were at risk, namely me, who would die from the virus. Her response? Almost ANY sickness would kill me, so that's my fight.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: RVR II on March 28, 2020, 01:09:50 PM
THIS.. is ALL TP that someone scarfed up around here and has resold it (possibly on ebay)!
At the Post Office, we call these giant aluminum 'tanks', BMCs. They are 6ft tall by 6ft long by 3.5ft wide and I filled it completely full of TP orders! Really pissed me off seeing this but all I could do was do my job and send them on their way to Charlotte to be processed..
(https://i.imgur.com/6uxwPCk.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/I3wt3VB.jpg)
The jackass came back today and filled another tank and cage so the supervisor has sent the sellers information to the postal inspector for investigation..
They'll probably be shut down some time soon.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: wihogfan on March 28, 2020, 01:23:21 PM
Wife needed contact solution, so quick trip to Walmart this morning. Walmart still not as well stocked as nearby grocery store, but they did have toilet paper (didn't need any, so didn't buy) and disinfectant wipes. Stated limit on both was 1, but I bought 2 cannisters of the disinfectant wipes. Dude at work with a baby at home has been looking for them, so going to give him 1 cannister. Other for the car along with my hand sanitizer I keep there. Walmart good about having disfectant wipes available to wipe down carts. Other stores not so much, so car cannister is for when I need to visit those others stores.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: Pak-Man on March 28, 2020, 01:31:15 PM
Our Walmart has paper towels with disinfectant spray, which is better than our supermarket which just has the paper towels(?). Fortunately I have a supply of disinfectant wipes in my car, so I can just bring one with me for cart-wipin'.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: The Lurker on March 28, 2020, 01:39:19 PM
https://techcrunch.com/2020/03/27/a-new-fda-authorized-covid-19-test-doesnt-need-a-lab-and-can-produce-results-in-just-5-minutes/ (https://techcrunch.com/2020/03/27/a-new-fda-authorized-covid-19-test-doesnt-need-a-lab-and-can-produce-results-in-just-5-minutes/)
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: CJones on March 28, 2020, 01:47:10 PM
My wife eviscerated my aunt on Facebook. My aunt has always been just... dumb. She's a very successful holistic medicine "doctor" and just generally knows jack shit about existence. She torpedoes every relationship and that whole side of the family is divided based on her current fights with other family members. She has always supported me with large donations to the Cystic Fibrosis Foundation, so I've always felt conflicted about her. However, today she shared some dangerous BS video about COVID-19 being no bigger deal than anything else and that we shouldn't be shutting anything down over it. Just to drive home how brain-boilingly stupid this is, the other health problems that kill more people than COVID-19 cited in this video are things like seasonal flu and heart disease. Things with vaccines and things that are not contagious. And, well, the list of logical fallacies here just goes on into infinity.

My wife commented that members of my aunt's family were at risk, namely me, who would die from the virus. Her response? Almost ANY sickness would kill me, so that's my fight.

https://www.livescience.com/new-coronavirus-compare-with-flu.html (https://www.livescience.com/new-coronavirus-compare-with-flu.html)

Death rate of the seasonal flu = 0.1%
Death rate of Covid 19 = At least 2%, As high as 12% in Wuhan

The two are not comparable. And I have no doubt that for people with Cystic Fibrosis, the fatality rate is much higher.  And just to be clear, these aren't % of the entire population, these are % of the people already confirmed to have the virus, dying from it.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: CJones on March 28, 2020, 02:20:07 PM
My Mom, who turns 79 tomorrow and is in much better shape than I am, is about to go out of her mind being stuck at home. She can't even see her grandkids for fear that they might carry Covid-19. You can only watch Star Trek on Netflix so many times.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: stansimpson on March 28, 2020, 04:41:22 PM
THIS.. is ALL TP that someone scarfed up around here and has resold it (possibly on ebay)!
At the Post Office, we call these giant aluminum 'tanks', BMCs. They are 6ft tall by 6ft long by 3.5ft wide and I filled it completely full of TP orders! Really pissed me off seeing this but all I could do was do my job and send them on their way to Charlotte to be processed..
(https://i.imgur.com/6uxwPCk.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/I3wt3VB.jpg)
The jackass came back today and filled another tank and cage so the supervisor has sent the sellers information to the postal inspector for investigation..
They'll probably be shut down some time soon.
(https://memecrunch.com/meme/12AB7/grumpy-cat-good/image.jpg)
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: Pastor of Muppets on March 28, 2020, 06:10:46 PM
Woohoo! Needed bread and grocery store finally stocked up to a more normal level. Items like disinfectant wipes and hand sanitizer sold out, but grilling steak for dinner. People were doing a good job of distancing and there were sneeze guards set up at all the checkout lines.

I'm seeing that too.  Toilet paper, bottled water, and paper towels are.... not exactly plentiful but at least not hard to find.  But I still can't find hand sanitizer, isopropyl alcohol, or aloe vera gel anywhere.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: Pastor of Muppets on March 29, 2020, 04:27:35 AM
https://www.livescience.com/new-coronavirus-compare-with-flu.html (https://www.livescience.com/new-coronavirus-compare-with-flu.html)

Death rate of the seasonal flu = 0.1%
Death rate of Covid 19 = At least 2%, As high as 12% in Wuhan

The two are not comparable. And I have no doubt that for people with Cystic Fibrosis, the fatality rate is much higher.  And just to be clear, these aren't % of the entire population, these are % of the people already confirmed to have the virus, dying from it.

Covid 19 exists in this odd little zone which can either make it difficult to take seriously, or make people take it way too seriously.

A death rate of 2% is, honestly, not that scary.  It's not apocalyptic like pandemics in almost every* TV show and movie revolving around pandemics, where every pandemic has something close to 100%.  Obviously, you let the virus run out of control and that's pretty bad.  2% of the world is still 140 million people.  That'd be bad for a year or two but the human race would go on.

For those infected, the vast majority are miserable for a week or two but get over it like the flu.

So it's hard to look at these and understand what all the hub-bub is about.  Besides that, these restrictions are a tough pill to swallow.  Humans are creatures of habit and this kind of disruption is tough to deal with.  It's a necessary evil though.  It took me a couple weeks to come around.  I don't know Quirk's aunt, but I think a lot of people can be convinced if you reason with them, take a little empathy with the fact that these disruptions suck, and explain in a non-combative way.  If you're aggressive with it, you just piss people off and make them more entrenched.

I think what convinced me was that although the mortality rate is low and I personally have nothing to worry about, the goal is not so much to stop the pandemic from spreading... but to stop it from spreading so fast that the health care system is overwhelmed.  Because I think that the prognosis is still fairly good for people with underlying conditions who might need medical care, if they can get it.  But if the health care system is too overwhelmed to provide it, then people who would have survived a slow pandemic die in a fast one.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: RVR II on March 29, 2020, 05:05:01 AM
This was Just Posted by SC Emergency Management..
Quote
By order of the Governor, all visitors to the State of South Carolina from the states of Connecticut, New Jersey, New York, the City of New Orleans and any other area deemed to be at high risk for COVID-19 infection must immediately isolate themselves or self-quarantine for 14 days or for the duration of their presence in South Carolina, whichever is shorter. Failure to comply could result in a $100 fine or up to 30 days in jail. (Executive Order No. 2020-14)

Everyone can help limit the spread of the virus by staying home, avoiding large groups, staying six feet apart from people who aren’t family and taking everyday precautions to stay healthy.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: goflyblind on March 29, 2020, 05:28:11 AM
A death rate of 2% is, honestly, not that scary.

...

For those infected, the vast majority are miserable for a week or two but get over it like the flu.

[citations needed]
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: Pastor of Muppets on March 29, 2020, 05:29:53 AM
A death rate of 2% is, honestly, not that scary.

...

For those infected, the vast majority are miserable for a week or two but get over it like the flu.

[citations needed]

Only source I can remember off the top of my head is this: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: goflyblind on March 29, 2020, 05:33:50 AM
A death rate of 2% is, honestly, not that scary.

...

For those infected, the vast majority are miserable for a week or two but get over it like the flu.

[citations needed]

Only source I can remember off the top of my head is this: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

that says nothing about either of those points.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on March 29, 2020, 07:33:20 AM
The death rate goes up dramatically with age, orders of magnitude worse than the flu.  2% is probably high for the overall average, it's probably between 1 and 2, now think of this: if 20,000 people a year die from the flu at 0.1%, that would mean hundreds of thousands of deaths from corona if we allow it to spread just like the flu.

Read an article a few days ago that even people over 50 are much higher risk, but once you get to 70+ the rate goes up to something like 14%.  That's assuming all the people that get sick have access to hospital care, in Italy where they ran out of space the death rate skyrocketed.

Local notes:  Since the jerks that own the empty hospital in Philly wouldn't let the city rent that, Temple U. is letting the city use it's facilities for free.

Near me the national guard is refitting the Mills School (juvenile reform school shut down due to abuse) as an overflow medical facility.  Plan is if too many corona patients fill up hospitals people that don't have the virus but need to recover from surgery or other less serious injuries can be moved to that facility.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: stansimpson on March 29, 2020, 09:11:53 AM
Covid 19 exists in this odd little zone which can either make it difficult to take seriously, or make people take it way too seriously.

This is the most comprehensively succinct thing I've ever read explaining this whole pandemic.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: RVR II on March 29, 2020, 10:53:48 AM
All week at the post office it was light until Saturday when it's like everybody decided to break self quarantine to ship stuff.. A couple ladies were being real bitchy; one was being impatient because I was the only one working the counter while others were still sorting mail and parcels and another 2 started arguing claiming they were breaking in line..
I was really glad to get off the counter :grr:

Went to Home Depot today to get my replacement gas water heater and you could only enter through the main entrance while winding around a make shift zig-zag pathway before entering the store.. The contractor's side was exit only.
Got my new water heater and they had a table spacing you 6 feet away from the checkout lady. According to her, business has dropped way off yet there was a steady flow of people entering and exiting..
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: eegah on March 29, 2020, 11:06:22 AM
Yesterday was the first day of our stay-at-home order in NH. So, of course, one of our water pipes sprung a leak. I had no choice but to go to Home Depot for a clamp to temporarily stop the leak.

At Home Depot, it was almost like there was no virus. It was packed, and almost nobody was acting different than usual. The registers had 6-foot-apart marked spots for the line, but that was about it. I had to walk fairly close to a few people, which made me nervous. I made sure to use plenty of hand sanitizer, not touch my face, and disinfect everything I bought (and my clothes). It had been about 2 weeks since I left the house, so if I get the virus it was probably during that trip. Didn't have a choice, though.

FYI:
https://www.youtube.com/v/sjDuwc9KBps
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on March 29, 2020, 12:10:29 PM
not touch my face

This is the hardest thing to avoid for me, it's such an unconscious thing to do.  I wear nitrile exam gloves now when going out, because I hate wearing them and it makes me super aware of my hands, so as soon as I start to move towards my face I'm aware of it.  They are also blue, so if my eye catches that color near my face it stops me.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: goflyblind on March 30, 2020, 12:41:56 AM
oh, they've put student loan repayments on hold until september. thanks, justin. but something that might help even more: forgive all student debt.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: RVR II on March 30, 2020, 01:47:14 AM
Got this Saturday..
It's my 'Get Out of Jail Free' letter I now have to carry in my vehicle in the event we go under lock-down.. :-X
(https://i.imgur.com/KOe3SLD.jpg)
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: RVR II on March 30, 2020, 02:21:07 AM
https://www.youtube.com/v/ElIf2DBrWzU
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: goflyblind on March 30, 2020, 04:17:49 AM
a vehicle just drove by with a loud speaker shouting stuff. my polish is still essentially useless, but i'm pretty sure it was just social distancing rules, as the one thing i did understand was "2 metres" (dwa metry). there's nothing on the news sites about it.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: Pak-Man on March 30, 2020, 07:47:21 AM
Covid 19 exists in this odd little zone which can either make it difficult to take seriously, or make people take it way too seriously.

This is the most comprehensively succinct thing I've ever read explaining this whole pandemic.

I've noticed that all of the big problems (Other than the actual COVID deaths) have come from either people not listening to the advisement the government is providing, or listening SO hard that they start hoarding or panicking or whatever. The best course of action is actually to relax and listen to officials, which goes against everything Sci-Fi has taught us to do in an apocalypse and REALLY rubs people the wrong way who have a problem with authority.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: Toranaga on March 30, 2020, 08:29:51 AM
I've got my Rife machine up and running.  I've got my supplements.  I've got my food.  I've been barricaded for three days now.  ..I'm dreading laundry day.  The laundromat seems totally sketchy.

Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on March 30, 2020, 11:57:43 AM
Covid 19 exists in this odd little zone which can either make it difficult to take seriously, or make people take it way too seriously.

This is the most comprehensively succinct thing I've ever read explaining this whole pandemic.

I've noticed that all of the big problems (Other than the actual COVID deaths) have come from either people not listening to the advisement the government is providing, or listening SO hard that they start hoarding or panicking or whatever. The best course of action is actually to relax and listen to officials, which goes against everything Sci-Fi has taught us to do in an apocalypse and REALLY rubs people the wrong way who have a problem with authority.

I know around here there was a lack of information about what was going to happen with the stay at home orders, all the news and officials talked about was having supplies for 14 days.

The state and local governments could have prevented a lot of the panic buying by telling people what was really going to happen, that even with the shutdown and stay at home orders you would still be able to go out and buy food.  We didn't hear that until the shutdown orders actually happened.

There still would have been some panic buying by people that thought they might catch the virus and be quarantined, but that would have been a smaller number than what we got.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: CJones on March 30, 2020, 12:34:18 PM
Covid 19 exists in this odd little zone which can either make it difficult to take seriously, or make people take it way too seriously.

This is the most comprehensively succinct thing I've ever read explaining this whole pandemic.

I've noticed that all of the big problems (Other than the actual COVID deaths) have come from either people not listening to the advisement the government is providing, or listening SO hard that they start hoarding or panicking or whatever. The best course of action is actually to relax and listen to officials, which goes against everything Sci-Fi has taught us to do in an apocalypse and REALLY rubs people the wrong way who have a problem with authority.

Governor Northam just got done holding a press conference, that went something like this: "Stay home, stay home, stay home you fucking morons" Okay, I added that last bit, but you could tell that's what he was thinking. "When I said stay home, which part of that sounded like 'Go to the Virginia Beach oceanfront with hundreds of other people'" :grr:
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: RVR II on March 30, 2020, 01:10:37 PM
The latest protection provided by USPS management for us clerks working the counters.. a clear shower curtain liner hung above the counter shelf separating us from the customer..
Oh that'll do just dandy! I feel safer already ::)
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: stansimpson on March 30, 2020, 02:35:56 PM
I know around here there was a lack of information about what was going to happen with the stay at home orders, all the news and officials talked about was having supplies for 14 days.
I got supplies for 14 days just so I didn't have to keep going out and exposing myself/others. Didn't feel good, because I looked like a panic buyer. But I was kind and took only what I know we needed (and sometimes less). I suppose it's really hard to convey "Don't panic-buy and stockpile for a potential lockdown" without also potentially looking like a fool a week later and finding out you might actually have to order a lockdown. I would not want to be a politician right now.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: RVR II on March 30, 2020, 03:04:20 PM
I can relate to this being a former submariner myself :o
Submariners at sea likely shielded from knowledge of coronavirus pandemic
https://www.foxnews.com/world/submariners-sea-coronavirus-pandemic
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: Toranaga on March 30, 2020, 03:53:04 PM
Health tip: if you have to use the ATM at your bank bring a computer stylus so you don't have to touch the contaminated touchscreen.  if you don't have a stylus wrap your finger in aluminum foil.  Touchscreens are capacitive.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: Russoguru on March 30, 2020, 05:41:31 PM
I am polite enough to not just wear latex gloves when I use the ATM, I go the extra mile and wipe down all the keys with clorox wipes.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: linszoid on March 30, 2020, 05:54:20 PM
1st world problem:

I ordered a 120 pack of Slim Jims from Amazon and they're late!

(https://media1.giphy.com/media/5h1QSFGAOmacxC5qTi/giphy.gif?cid=ecf05e473975b777a6a0fdca88a01226a9c27c276030164d&rid=giphy.gif)
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: Toranaga on March 30, 2020, 07:19:51 PM
I am polite enough to not just wear latex gloves when I use the ATM, I go the extra mile and wipe down all the keys with clorox wipes.
Good on ya mate.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: Russoguru on March 30, 2020, 10:10:32 PM
Good on ya mate.
Thanks! :)
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: Ape21Ape21 on March 31, 2020, 03:32:46 AM
It is still under control in India. The 21-day lockdown is really effective. The Muslims are still annoying. As they had 2000 people from Indonesia, (https://electronicjunction.in/home-appliances/best-air-purifier-in-india-buyers-guide-review/) Kyrgyzstan and other parts of the world to a meetup from 1-12 March. 24 of them are tested positive.

If 24 were positive then the other 2000 might have been effective. I don't understand why people have to be so high headed. Peace.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: goflyblind on March 31, 2020, 03:54:05 AM
It is still under control in India. The 21-day lockdown is really effective. The Muslims are still annoying. As they had 2000 people from Indonesia, (https://electronicjunction.in/home-appliances/best-air-purifier-in-india-buyers-guide-review/) Kyrgyzstan and other parts of the world to a meetup from 1-12 March. 24 of them are tested positive.

If 24 were positive then the other 2000 might have been effective. I don't understand why people have to be so high headed. Peace.

hey racist moron: fuck right the fuck off.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: RVR II on March 31, 2020, 07:27:46 AM
It is still under control in India. The 21-day lockdown is really effective. The Muslims are still annoying. As they had 2000 people from Indonesia, (https://electronicjunction.in/home-appliances/best-air-purifier-in-india-buyers-guide-review/) Kyrgyzstan and other parts of the world to a meetup from 1-12 March. 24 of them are tested positive.

If 24 were positive then the other 2000 might have been effective. I don't understand why people have to be so high headed. Peace.

hey racist moron: fuck right the fuck off.
Already taken care of with ban hammer 8)
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on March 31, 2020, 07:59:00 AM
It is still under control in India. The 21-day lockdown is really effective. The Muslims are still annoying. As they had 2000 people from Indonesia, (https://electronicjunction.in/home-appliances/best-air-purifier-in-india-buyers-guide-review/) Kyrgyzstan and other parts of the world to a meetup from 1-12 March. 24 of them are tested positive.

If 24 were positive then the other 2000 might have been effective. I don't understand why people have to be so high headed. Peace.

hey racist moron: fuck right the fuck off.
Already taken care of with ban hammer 8)

Been waiting for the other shoe to drop on that "guy", any idea if it was a bot or a real person?
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: RVR II on March 31, 2020, 08:02:54 AM
It is still under control in India. The 21-day lockdown is really effective. The Muslims are still annoying. As they had 2000 people from Indonesia, (https://electronicjunction.in/home-appliances/best-air-purifier-in-india-buyers-guide-review/) Kyrgyzstan and other parts of the world to a meetup from 1-12 March. 24 of them are tested positive.

If 24 were positive then the other 2000 might have been effective. I don't understand why people have to be so high headed. Peace.

hey racist moron: fuck right the fuck off.
Already taken care of with ban hammer 8)

Been waiting for the other shoe to drop on that "guy", any idea if it was a bot or a real person?
It seemed like a real person then the phishing links popped up in his profile which I have since removed  8)
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: goflyblind on March 31, 2020, 08:51:46 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/DzlkHzg.png)

point #2 is a great idea. (i'm not positive on the "served by" part. seems like that's a mis-translation)

point #1 is gonna be hard. i don't have any gloves, i think there's still a shortage of gloves here, and it's unlikely the stores are going to be willing to hand them out. i need some medical supplies and groceries on friday, so this'll be fun.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: RVR II on March 31, 2020, 12:06:09 PM
Just had a talk with a local ebay seller that drops off a lot of prepaids at the small post office I'm currently working at and he says the regular assigned lady that works here says this virus is made up and that schools are closed to install advanced monitoring systems and even said that all the deaths being reported from this virus are fake ::)
Maybe this is why she put in for this job years ago to talk to other conspiracy theorists. .
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: Pastor of Muppets on April 01, 2020, 06:19:18 AM
I was able to order a case of 96 rolls of toilet paper from Uline today.  I still have 15 rolls at home, but since supplies are still a little low I'm starting to get nervous.

Uline is not selling toilet paper to new customers right now.  Therefore it is fortunate that I happened to buy about $350 worth of stuff from them a year ago when I moved to Illinois.

I'm not trying to hoard.  The 96 roll case was what they had.  I think they also had cases of 48 and 40.  All such orders were limited to one per customer.  Uline usually sells to businesses.  It was still more expensive than it would be in any retail store.  That's why I don't usually shop Uline.  I don't plan to resell this stuff and do any profiteering.    I will share a few rolls to close friends and family in need.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: Pak-Man on April 01, 2020, 08:12:51 AM
Went on a supply run yesterday (That sounds so much cooler than grocery shopping!) and was able to find most of the things that have been scarce on the shelves. Not always much variety (It was either Scott tissue or the Walmart generic brand. No 2-ply.) but I was able to get some pasta and bread and some fixings for the Turkey we're going to cook up this weekend.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: RVR II on April 01, 2020, 04:09:37 PM
Went to Walmart and they got a barricade of carts blocking the enterance for some odd reason..
(https://i.imgur.com/xEseff1.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/fS1LGLi.jpg)
No idea what this was supposed to accomplish as people were just going in the Exit doors and avoiding walking all the way around to the 'new' entrance way ???
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: RVR II on April 01, 2020, 04:10:30 PM
Here's some useful information :o
(https://i.imgur.com/AbU03lY.png)
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: CJones on April 02, 2020, 04:07:27 AM
I just learned that someone I know from Church has got it, making her the first victim I know personally. And she has little kids she has to take care of, so that's a bad situation. She's also just about the only person I know with more chronic health problems than myself. She already has a history of pneumonia, so there's a very real chance it could kill her.  :(
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: Pastor of Muppets on April 02, 2020, 05:07:51 AM
Andrew Rea, host of my favorite YouTube channel (Binging With Babish) caught it.  He's in New York, where a lot of people are catching it.  His girlfriend got it too.  They're pretty young and healthy so they had a mild case and recovered. 

It's a cooking channel.  The virus beat him up too much to make a complicated video while he was still recovering, so he made some joke recipe from an old Nickelodeon show.  The recipe was just pouring a bunch of strange ingredients into a blender.  He took advantage of the fact that COVID-19 shuts down your sense of taste and smell, and noted that he would otherwise not drink such a repulsive concoction.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: stansimpson on April 02, 2020, 06:56:14 AM
Co-worker personally let some of us know that her husband tested positive. Everyone in their house was sick for a little bit, but she said it was manageable. However, they're concerned for their older relatives now. Then last night, we got an email saying one of our co-workers tested positive but didn't name anyone. Pretty sure it's her, but that would be the first positive case I know for someone personally.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: Variety of Cells on April 02, 2020, 03:22:33 PM
Girlfriend is a real estate agent, technically self employed.  New law means she can now file for unemployment.  Completed the online portion, and it informed her she needed to call to complete the application.  She called over 400 times today.  Around 250 today.  Mostly just busy signals.  But sometimes she'd get the automated system.  She'd have to put in all her information every time.  Then it'd tell her the lines were too busy and hang up.

She finally got put on hold.  She had never been happier to be told she was being put on hold for 50 minutes.  When she finally got someone they told her that they hadn't been told what to do with 1099 cases yet, so she should just look online or send a fax to a number.  She was rushed off the line cause they were busy.  Very frustrating for my girlfriend, but we understand that the system is catastrophically overloaded. 

There was no actual information on the website as to where to send a 1099.  So here's hoping it went through ok.  I guess we'll just have to wait.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on April 02, 2020, 03:56:36 PM
With over 3 million applying for unemployment in a week it's not surprising the phone lines are busy.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: wihogfan on April 02, 2020, 06:14:26 PM
Local theater chain keeps sending me emails trying to get me to rent online movies. Smart idea.
Not so smart idea- email from them today offering curbside popcorn pickup of a large tub of movie theater popcorn for $10. Yeah I've bought their overpriced popcorn when I've been there to watch a movie and didn't think ahead to sneak anything else in, but can't imagine going there just to order overpriced popcorn.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: RVR II on April 03, 2020, 12:59:32 AM
I haven't been to a theater in years and don't plan on going to one anytime soon. .
Unless a drive in theater pops up in town then maybe that will change  :-\
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: Pastor of Muppets on April 04, 2020, 06:24:24 PM
I had to go grocery shopping today.  Against all odds, I found hand sanitizer.  There was a limit of one bottle per transaction so I grabbed one and put it in my cart.  Then I got a second bottle, made a quick trip through self checkout, tossed it in my car, and went back to shopping.  There are 2 people living in my house so I thought it would be best to have 2 bottles.

It was a fairly comprehensive trip and I must have been in the store for a good 90 minutes.  I saw a lot of people wearing masks.  I was wearing latex gloves for a bit but then it occurred to me that this was not very useful.  If I'm getting germs on gloves, I can still get infected by touching my face while wearing the gloves same as with my bare hands.  I can take off the gloves or wash my hands.

I can see gloves being a little useful, if touching a surface that had a lot of hands touching it, like a gas pump, credit card terminal, or touch screen.  Is there something else I'm not realizing here?
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: wihogfan on April 04, 2020, 06:42:02 PM
I was able to pick up another couple of canisters of disinfectant wipes today. Unfortunately not the 75 count, but the 35s. Still set for hand sanitizer. Found a 34 oz bottle a couple of weeks ago and have been using it to refill a couple of small containers we keep in the cars.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: goflyblind on April 05, 2020, 06:31:41 AM
the good weather forecast for next week has me concerned. there're probably going to be a whole lot more people ignoring regulations, to which the government will respond by imposing even stricter regulations, punishing those of us following the rules. :angry:
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: Pastor of Muppets on April 05, 2020, 08:17:26 AM
I don't understand what these restrictions are supposed to do.  Ostensibly the goal is to "flatten the curve" by slowing down the rate the disease spreads.  Tenatively, they're saying things will lighten up around May 1st.  I'm just going by the current expiration date of the stay at home order in Illinois.  It'll be different elsewhere I guess.

But here's what confuses me.  At this time last month, we had fewer than 500 cases in the United States (https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/cases-in-us.html).  Now we have around 275,000.  If we got it down to something like 500 by May 1st (and that's a long shot), won't it just spring back up to 275,000 by June 1st?
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: wihogfan on April 05, 2020, 08:32:07 AM
Pretty sure the point was to try to slow the spread so that hospitals aren't overwhelmed. Not sure the one size fits all approach makes sense but also can't imagine that things won't get worse once restrictions lessen unless we have a vaccine before then.
Don't live in a big city and we've only had 3 confirmed cases in the county where I live. But it's also next to impossible to get tested here, so who knows how many cases there really have been. Know people in the healthcare industry here who have been sent home with minor syptoms but have not been tested. Don't know anyone who has actually been tested here.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: goflyblind on April 05, 2020, 08:33:38 AM
But here's what confuses me.  At this time last month, we had fewer than 500 cases in the United States (https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/cases-in-us.html).  Now we have around 275,000.  If we got it down to something like 500 by May 1st (and that's a long shot), won't it just spring back up to 275,000 by June 1st?

that's what happened with the 1918 influenza: https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-resources/1918-commemoration/three-waves.htm (https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-resources/1918-commemoration/three-waves.htm).

the idea wouldn't be to say "do whatever the fuck you want" at the end of any current orders, but rather probably renew strict ones now (and, my guess, until july), then start slowly rolling them back (e.g., instead of delivery-only, restaurants can do takeout again and we'll review the situation in two weeks). whether that happens or not is up in the air.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: Pak-Man on April 05, 2020, 12:25:12 PM
I got cold-called by my comic book store. They're trying to drum up some business by arranging delivery and curbside pickup. (Well, parking lot of the CVC across the street pickup, anyway.) I still want a comic book store when this is all over, so I decided to order a couple pricier trade paperbacks I've been wanting.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: wihogfan on April 05, 2020, 12:40:15 PM
Haven't been ordering take out or food delivery in part because of concerns of just how it's being handled. Only exception has been ordering take out once a week from our favorite local bar/restaurant that we used to go to once a week. Still have some of the same concerns with them as I do with other places, but yeah, want them to still be open when things return to whatever the new normal is going to be.

Wife had a whole list of things she needed from Walmart, so made a trip there this morning. Lots of new precautions since my last trip there a week ago. Limits to numbers allowed in store. Seperate areas for santized carts vs returned carts. Xs on the floor showing social distancing. Wiping down self checkout after each use. Wife thought I got a little snippy with one of the self checkout helpers though. Walmart employee walked right up behind me and started to put the bags that I was filing into a cart. I asked her to please keep her distance and stop touching my purchased items.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: RVR II on April 05, 2020, 01:56:37 PM
For those who were/who are in the military, this is no way to be treated for sounding the alarm aboard your ship >:(
https://www.navytimes.com/news/pentagon-congress/2020/04/05/fired-theodore-roosevelt-skipper-tested-positive-for-covid-19-says-new-york-times-report/
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: Variety of Cells on April 05, 2020, 01:57:24 PM
Tried to order Chinese food yesterday, but it was impossible. They’ve all closed in my area. It’s pretty sad people are that racist.

I did get a message from my cat sitting company saying they are having a hard time, and are offering the purchase of gift cards. So I did that to help them out.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: Pak-Man on April 05, 2020, 02:13:57 PM
Weirdly, Panda Express has had a constant line all around the restaurant here. I mean- it's Chinese in the same way that Taco Bell is Mexican, but there's something kinda heartwarming there.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: wihogfan on April 05, 2020, 02:32:25 PM
People aren't eating Chinese food because the virus started it China? Isn't that kind of like not eating pizza or spaghetti because Italy was a hotspot? Just don't get it. (Not personally eating Chinese food either despite how much I love it, but my reasons go back years and have to do with carbs, sodium, and MSG.)
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: RVR II on April 05, 2020, 02:55:09 PM
Well I'm making a list of restaurants that didn't offer curb-side/delivery before..
Already ordered from O'Charlies yesterday evening for dinner and it was great!
Others include: Waffle House, Texas Roadhouse, Buffalo Wild Wings, Taco Bell, and I will add a local Chinese restaurant to my list 8)
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: CJones on April 05, 2020, 04:07:33 PM
People aren't eating Chinese food because the virus started it China? Isn't that kind of like not eating pizza or spaghetti because Italy was a hotspot? Just don't get it. (Not personally eating Chinese food either despite how much I love it, but my reasons go back years and have to do with carbs, sodium, and MSG.)

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/corona-beer-halts-production-during-coronavirus-pandemic/ar-BB12ausq (https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/corona-beer-halts-production-during-coronavirus-pandemic/ar-BB12ausq)

Quote
Early on in the pandemic, some consumers mistakenly associated Corona beer with the virus, with an increase in Google searches for "corona beer virus" and "beer virus." And according to one survey, 38% of American beer drinkers said in late February that they would not buy Corona "under any circumstances" at the moment — but among regular Corona drinkers, only 4% said the same.

To sum up, people can be stupid.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: RVR II on April 06, 2020, 04:19:41 AM
Just posted by the South Carolina Emergency Management Division..
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To limit the spread of COVID-19 in South Carolina, the following types of businesses must close temporarily beginning 5 p.m. today, Monday, April 6, 2020:

FURNITURE STORES
HOME FURNISHING STORES
CLOTHING STORES
SHOE AND CLOTHING ACCESSORY STORES
JEWELRY STORES
LUGGAGE AND LEATHER GOODS STORES
DEPARTMENT STORES
FLORISTS
SPORTING GOODS STORES
BOOKSTORES
CRAFT AND MUSIC STORES

This does NOT prohibit the continued operation of the listed retail stores for the limited purpose of fulfilling online or telephone orders. Stores may provide alternate ways of purchasing or delivering products or services - to include curbside purchase, pickup or delivery and home or off-site delivery - provided that such options can maintain effective "social distancing" and are done with any applicable guidance issued by state and federal public health and safety officials.

These temporary closures are in addition to previous safety precautions ordered by the Governor
I guess people can still get their guns pretty easily ::)
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: stansimpson on April 06, 2020, 07:01:07 AM
People aren't eating Chinese food because the virus started it China? Isn't that kind of like not eating pizza or spaghetti because Italy was a hotspot? Just don't get it. (Not personally eating Chinese food either despite how much I love it, but my reasons go back years and have to do with carbs, sodium, and MSG.)

First off, let me say, one of the first places I wanted to support when things were shutting down was our local Chinese take-out place. They were the first place I tried going to that had closed its doors. I knew racism would affect them hard here in Alabama, and we go there pretty often. Having said that, if the reason people are fearing their local Chinese food places is due to immigrants visiting their homeland and coming back, it's not wholly unfounded. There's an excellent documentary called Searching For General Tso that is super fascinating (they find General Tso in like the first 15mins so it's not really about that). It follows how the American-Chinese fusion blend came to be so widespread in the US through the history of relations between both cultures. Chinese immigrants deliberately pick a random place, change their recipes according to local tastes, and that's why you can go to basically any small town in America and find an immigrant-run Chinese food place. There's a lot of history about minorities adapting to their new surroundings, and the Chinese have been masterful during the 20th century. It really shows in their menus. Did you know McDonald's came out with chicken nuggets like one year after the invention of sweet and sour chicken? They interview the guy who invented it, and he seems really pissed. In any case, NY is getting hit hardest (56% of cases are in NY) due to strong immigration between NY and the EU. There's not a huge history of Italian immigrants starting their own Mom & Pop restaurants in America. At least not like the Chinese have. But if they had the same history and cultural impact, it's easy to imagine a similar scenario. So some may have stupid reasons, but, again not entirely unfounded.

Sorry for the digression. It's a great documentary if you have 90mins to kill. Here are the places you can watch it.
https://www.justwatch.com/us/movie/the-search-for-general-tso (https://www.justwatch.com/us/movie/the-search-for-general-tso) (I forgot how to embed)
Also, be sure to support your local Chinese food places if you can!
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: Pastor of Muppets on April 06, 2020, 10:51:55 AM
Tried to order Chinese food yesterday, but it was impossible. They’ve all closed in my area. It’s pretty sad people are that racist.

I did get a message from my cat sitting company saying they are having a hard time, and are offering the purchase of gift cards. So I did that to help them out.

That doesn't really make sense to me.  Restaurants in general are closed, in many states, except for take out and delivery.  Chinese food places are frequently takeout heavy so they would have been minimally impacted by this restriction.  I can't see why they would be closed while other restaurants remain open.  I can see some people refusing to eat Chinese food out of fear of the virus, but not so many that it would shut down the business.  Feels like there's probably more to that story.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: RVR II on April 06, 2020, 12:08:49 PM
For a pandemic going on, people are coming into the post office nonstop all day today!  :grr:
And we are required to wear gloves and masks while working the counter. . And they are pretty cheap masks ::)
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: RVR II on April 06, 2020, 06:05:46 PM
And apparently our apathetic republican SC governor finally put a mandatory stay at home order for the state effective at 5pm Tuesday April 7..
As ignorant as the people are around here I'm sure it'll just be 'business as usual' ::)
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: stansimpson on April 06, 2020, 06:21:32 PM
For a pandemic going on, people are coming into the post office nonstop all day today!  :grr:
And we are required to wear gloves and masks while working the counter. . And they are pretty cheap masks ::)
Reminds me of Saturday when I went to Best Buy. On the way, I drove by Lowe's and it was *packed*. The entire parking lot was *full* of cars. I didn't even want to think about what it must've been like inside.

So, yeah, I went to go pick up a Roku for the living room since we're spending more time there now. Got to use Best Buy's "Contactless Curbside" which was really nifty. Put in my order, drove to the store, pulled up to the curb, gave my order number, and they handed me my new Roku. Well, they didn't "hand" it to me. I asked the guy to just place it on the passenger seat. And the guy in front of me was getting a new tv:
(https://i.imgur.com/TvQzpV3.jpg)
You can see the pollen on my windshield too. Allergies are kicking my butt SO hard this season. I am just incredibly grateful for an excuse to not go out into that awful yellow haze.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: Toranaga on April 07, 2020, 12:16:20 AM
Lines around the building at my local food mart.  About 50% of the customer wore masks but none of the employees.  I guess they all want to die together. 

Do people understand the intensity of the infection depends on the degree of exposure?  Why doesn't the news report this fact?
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: Toranaga on April 07, 2020, 12:29:42 AM
I found something that works good for a homemade mask. 

I cut a piece of hepa filter out of a vacuum cleaner bag.  CV is .125 microns and a hepa filter blocks .01 microns and higher.

I fold it over and press it up against my nose.  Then I put a Tshirt over the bridge of my nose and tie the sleeves together behind my head.  It holds the hepa filter in place.  When I breathe in the hepa filter plugs the nostrils and filters the air, but when I breathe out it relaxes and releases.  It's like a one-way check valve and you don't have to sew anything.  Just remember not to breathe in through your mouth.

Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: Pastor of Muppets on April 07, 2020, 04:06:49 AM
Lines around the building at my local food mart.  About 50% of the customer wore masks but none of the employees.  I guess they all want to die together. 

Do people understand the intensity of the infection depends on the degree of exposure?  Why doesn't the news report this fact?

If the news isn't reporting on something, there's a decent chance that the reason is because it isn't true.

95% of all COVID-19 cases are mild (https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/)

Die together?  Don't be so melodramatic.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: Toranaga on April 07, 2020, 07:03:48 AM
Lines around the building at my local food mart.  About 50% of the customer wore masks but none of the employees.  I guess they all want to die together. 

Do people understand the intensity of the infection depends on the degree of exposure?  Why doesn't the news report this fact?

If the news isn't reporting on something, there's a decent chance that the reason is because it isn't true.

95% of all COVID-19 cases are mild (https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/)

Die together?  Don't be so melodramatic.

Regular old flu has an R0 of 1.3, while CV is between 2 and 3.  Assuming an R0 of 2.5 that's a 92% increase in basic transmissability compared with the flu. 

If you want multiple double viral loads in your face then take off your mask and greet hundreds of carriers every day for a month.  Since carriers can be asymptomatic for up to 14 days that's a maximum possible viral load of X = (2) * (viral load of regular flu) * (14) * (number of Walmart carriers per day) * (.475).  The .475 reflects reduced transmissability of carriers wearing masks, assume a reduction of 35% or so.  Keep in mind people are lined up around the block so the number of carriers is extraordinarily high.

Put simply, imagine a closed space with marbles ricocheting off each other, with each and every contact with a carrier marble increasing the viral load.  Exponential.

The math says that's a guaranteed death sentence.  The threat cannot possibly be understated.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: Pastor of Muppets on April 07, 2020, 08:18:09 AM
Lines around the building at my local food mart.  About 50% of the customer wore masks but none of the employees.  I guess they all want to die together. 

Do people understand the intensity of the infection depends on the degree of exposure?  Why doesn't the news report this fact?

If the news isn't reporting on something, there's a decent chance that the reason is because it isn't true.

95% of all COVID-19 cases are mild (https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/)

Die together?  Don't be so melodramatic.

Regular old flu has an R0 of 1.3, while CV is between 2 and 3.  Assuming an R0 of 2.5 that's a 92% increase in basic transmissability compared with the flu. 

If you want multiple double viral loads in your face then take off your mask and greet hundreds of carriers every day for a month.  Since carriers can be asymptomatic for up to 14 days that's a maximum possible viral load of X = (2) * (viral load of regular flu) * (14) * (number of Walmart carriers per day) * (.475).  The .475 reflects reduced transmissability of carriers wearing masks, assume a reduction of 35% or so.  Keep in mind people are lined up around the block so the number of carriers is extraordinarily high.

Put simply, imagine a closed space with marbles ricocheting off each other, with each and every contact with a carrier marble increasing the viral load.  Exponential.

The math says that's a guaranteed death sentence.  The threat cannot possibly be understated.

I would love to hear you back that up with some credible evidence from something like, say, a doctor, instead of just jumping to conclusions.  I'm pretty sure infection isn't cumulative like that.  You're acting like this is some sort of scoring system.  Each infected person gives 500 "infection points" when they infect someone else, and the immune system can only take 5000 infection points before getting overwhelmed.

Common sense would tell you that if this had any merit, people in public facing positions like cashiers, postal employees, food workers, and medical workers would have such high viral loads that they'd be dropping like flies.  Yet the rate of serious cases is still around 5% and the overall death rate is even lower.  This is especially true regarding medical workers, who have a higher likelihood of being around the infected.  And with news about masks being in short supply, how the heck isn't every doctor, nurse, respiratory therapist etc., dead?

Not to mention that this thing isn't airborne in the classical sense of a true airborne disease like measles.  The infected respiratory droplets don't get aerosolized and hang around in the air for 30 minutes like some fog of disease.  That shit comes out of your face and plummets to the ground.  That's why they're talking about this 3 to 6 feet rule.  You have to pretty much have someone cough/sneeze/breathe straight into your face to get this thing that way.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: goflyblind on April 07, 2020, 09:21:38 AM
Not to mention that this thing isn't airborne in the classical sense of a true airborne disease like measles.  The infected respiratory droplets don't get aerosolized and hang around in the air for 30 minutes like some fog of disease.  That shit comes out of your face and plummets to the ground.  That's why they're talking about this 3 to 6 feet rule.  You have to pretty much have someone cough/sneeze/breathe straight into your face to get this thing that way.

I would love to hear you back that up with some credible evidence from something like, say, a doctor, instead of just jumping to conclusions.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: Pak-Man on April 07, 2020, 09:42:09 AM
Remember when Atari had so many games out at once and so much of it was garbage that the entire video game market crashed? We did that with information. We broke information as a general concept. It was all in good fun when it was just politics (/sarcasm) but now it's broken actual life-saving information.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: RVR II on April 07, 2020, 01:05:24 PM
And the customers continue to flow into the post office. ..
Not as bad as yesterday but still way more than there should be including elderly people with no gloves nor masks  ::)
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on April 07, 2020, 01:09:10 PM
I wish online grocery delivery services would tell you there were no delivery windows available before you spend half an hour filling your cart, but they only tell you when you go to checkout.  Tried 2 of them, so I just wasted an hour.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: stansimpson on April 07, 2020, 01:51:37 PM
I wish online grocery delivery services would tell you there were no delivery windows available before you spend half an hour filling your cart, but they only tell you when you go to checkout.  Tried 2 of them, so I just wasted an hour.

Walmart's grocery pick-up lets you pick your time first. They only give two days availability and most of the time it's all N/A. But I'm very glad they changed that to be the first step instead of the last step.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: Charles Castle on April 07, 2020, 02:33:04 PM
I wish online grocery delivery services would tell you there were no delivery windows available before you spend half an hour filling your cart, but they only tell you when you go to checkout.  Tried 2 of them, so I just wasted an hour.
I was having that issue with Amazon Fresh and Whole Foods for a while. They just recently added a notation on the main page for each of those that says whether delivery is sold out or available. Unfortunately with how many orders they are getting, if you are on the main page and see delivery is available, by the time you've gotten to setting a delivery window it is probably gone. Not to mention that I usually have to go fishing through my cart to see what items have been removed and see about re-adding them if they came back in stock or getting an alternative.

Fortunately, the grocery store across the street has established a bazillion distancing measures and occupancy restrictions. I wish it had always been that way. Baby steps buying the groceries.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: RVR II on April 07, 2020, 02:47:36 PM
Everybody in the post office that had a cell phone on them at 4:49pm received a blaring siren sound receiving an Extreme Alert message stating:
Quote
GO HOME. STAY HOME. TRAVEL ONLY FOR WORK AND ESSENTIALS. VIRUS SPREADING IN ALL SC COUNTIES
Will most people in this state heed the message? Of course not ::)

Oh and we had a 2.3-magnitude earthquake happened around 2 p.m., about nine miles south of my locale but that wasn't even broadcast :o
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on April 07, 2020, 07:11:38 PM
Placed an order for some groceries with Whole Foods using the Amazon store, limit of one 5lb bag of flower per order.  And they had an 8 to 10pm window open.

If it comes tomorrow evening I'll have enough flour to make bread and pizza for a couple more weeks.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: Toranaga on April 07, 2020, 07:27:47 PM
Placed an order for some groceries with Whole Foods using the Amazon store, limit of one 5lb bag of flower per order.  And they had an 8 to 10pm window open.

If it comes tomorrow evening I'll have enough flour to make bread and pizza for a couple more weeks.

How much dough did you lay out?
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: Toranaga on April 07, 2020, 07:49:22 PM


I would love to hear you back that up with some credible evidence from something like, say, a doctor, instead of just jumping to conclusions.  I'm pretty sure infection isn't cumulative like that.  You're acting like this is some sort of scoring system.  Each infected person gives 500 "infection points" when they infect someone else, and the immune system can only take 5000 infection points before getting overwhelmed.

You say infection points, I say viral load.  Same thing.   Yah it's cumulative.  That's why they say getting reinfected with HIV is like suicide.  A doctor is nothing but a street hustler for big pharma.

Common sense would tell you that if this had any merit, people in public facing positions like cashiers, postal employees, food workers, and medical workers would have such high viral loads that they'd be dropping like flies.  Yet the rate of serious cases is still around 5% and the overall death rate is even lower.  This is especially true regarding medical workers, who have a higher likelihood of being around the infected.  And with news about masks being in short supply, how the heck isn't every doctor, nurse, respiratory therapist etc., dead?

They are dropping like flies.  Check out this proof: https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/03/us/detroit-bus-driver-dies-coronavirus-trnd/index.html
The dude was young man and he was in a small marble box.  He got a big viral load and croaked.

Not to mention that this thing isn't airborne in the classical sense of a true airborne disease like measles.  The infected respiratory droplets don't get aerosolized and hang around in the air for 30 minutes like some fog of disease.  That shit comes out of your face and plummets to the ground.  That's why they're talking about this 3 to 6 feet rule.  You have to pretty much have someone cough/sneeze/breathe straight into your face to get this thing that way.

Remember the R0 is really high.  Like Spanish Flu high.  Like 1918 you dig.  I don't think we know everything about this bad boy yet.  That bus driver wasnt right in that ladies face, he was just in the box.  That's all but aerosolized.

I'm telling you if you work the front counter and you don't have an N95 mask you are dead.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: CJones on April 07, 2020, 08:45:49 PM
https://theconversation.com/coronavirus-does-the-amount-of-virus-you-are-exposed-to-determine-how-sick-youll-get-135119 (https://theconversation.com/coronavirus-does-the-amount-of-virus-you-are-exposed-to-determine-how-sick-youll-get-135119)

Does the viral load influence the severity? The short answer is: For COVID-19, we don't know yet. For influenza, yes, but this isn't the flu.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: RVR II on April 08, 2020, 03:15:38 AM
Coronavirus State-By-State Projections :speechless:
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/04/07/825479416/new-yorks-coronavirus-deaths-may-level-off-soon-when-might-your-state-s-peak

For SC Daily deaths per 100,000 residents

Total projected deaths: 442
Peak: April 29
14 daily deaths
0.3 daily deaths per 100K

State South Carolina
   Peak date April 29
   Projected bed shortages 0
   Projected deaths on peak date 14
   Projected cumulative deaths 442

I guess we're getting off light compared to others :-\
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: RVR II on April 08, 2020, 04:20:20 AM
A little background on why the southern US is so 'late to the party'...
https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/07/opinions/the-south-and-coronavirus-bailey/index.html
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on April 08, 2020, 06:37:48 AM
Looking at those graphs almost all of New England is going to get hit very hard.

I guess the lock down in PA worked, we were shut down before anyone else on the east coast when there were only a few known cases, projections are pretty low for such a large state.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: stansimpson on April 08, 2020, 06:59:41 AM
A little background on why the southern US is so 'late to the party'...
https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/07/opinions/the-south-and-coronavirus-bailey/index.html
Government: STOP! It's not safe! You'll DIE!
The South: Screw you! Now I'm gonna do it MORE!

Reminds me of my favorite Libertarian joke: "Ayn Rand, Rand Paul, and Paul Ryan walk into a bar. The bartender serves them tainted alcohol because there are no regulations. They die."
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: Darth Geek on April 08, 2020, 12:12:08 PM

Reminds me of my favorite Libertarian joke: "Ayn Rand, Rand Paul, and Paul Ryan walk into a bar. The bartender serves them tainted alcohol because there are no regulations. They die."
To quote The Critic: "And nothing of value was lost."
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: goflyblind on April 09, 2020, 07:58:00 AM
https://www.polskieradio.pl/395/7789/Artykul/2489671,Poles-will-have-to-wear-masks-in-public-amid-epidemic

required to wear some sort of mouth/nose covering in public starting next week. the only spare cloth i have is a microfibre one, and the only string i have is an extra pair of shoelaces. kinda fogs up my glasses, but for an hour-ish a week i think i can manage.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: RVR II on April 09, 2020, 09:00:25 AM
Hopefully this happens sooner than later for us at the post offices :o
http://postalnews.com/blog/2020/04/09/senate-democrats-propose-up-to-25k-pay-increase-for-essential-workers-including-letter-carriers/
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: Toranaga on April 09, 2020, 10:42:25 AM
https://www.polskieradio.pl/395/7789/Artykul/2489671,Poles-will-have-to-wear-masks-in-public-amid-epidemic

required to wear some sort of mouth/nose covering in public starting next week. the only spare cloth i have is a microfibre one, and the only string i have is an extra pair of shoelaces. kinda fogs up my glasses, but for an hour-ish a week i think i can manage.

I use a microfiber cloth and a Tshirt.  It works.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: Toranaga on April 10, 2020, 12:14:05 AM
New study suggests coronavirus has an R0 of 5.7.
https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/7/20-0282_article

previously Chinese data indicated an R0 somewhere between 2.2 and 2.5.

This would put coronavirus' transmissability on the order of smallpox.

Ebola, 2014     1.51 to 2.53
H1N1 Influenza, 2009     1.46 to 1.48
Seasonal Influenza     0.9 to 2.1
Measles     12 to 18
MERS     around 1
Polio     5 to 7
SARS     <1 to 2.75
Smallpox     5 to 7
SARS-CoV-2 (causes COVID-19)     1.5 to 3.5
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: stansimpson on April 10, 2020, 12:52:31 PM
https://www.polskieradio.pl/395/7789/Artykul/2489671,Poles-will-have-to-wear-masks-in-public-amid-epidemic

required to wear some sort of mouth/nose covering in public starting next week. the only spare cloth i have is a microfibre one, and the only string i have is an extra pair of shoelaces. kinda fogs up my glasses, but for an hour-ish a week i think i can manage.

I use a microfiber cloth and a Tshirt.  It works.

As a Survivor superfan, never have I been more tempted to buy a buff. Been wanting to go out running and need something to cover my face. If money weren't so tight and they didn't cost $30, I would justify the expense for one now.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: wihogfan on April 11, 2020, 12:09:01 PM
Was considering going to the nearby state park this weekend with the dogs. Then heard stories about how crowded they've been and governor shut down most of the state parks including the nearby one due to the crowding.
Was surprised the dog park was still open, but spent an hour there this afternoon. Not as crowded as usual and people all kept good social distancing. Dogs...well dogs don't social distance. Felt good to be out in the sun and dogs all got good runs in. Rain supposed to start tonight and rain until it turns to snow tomorrow afternoon into Monday. Good day. Now going to go sit on the back porch with a beer and read for awhile.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on April 12, 2020, 12:36:56 PM
Normally I'd be filling up my SUV with bags of mulch at home depot or lowes around now, instead getting it delivered, going to cost an extra $80 for that...

Allstate is refunding about 15% of auto insurance premiums for April and May, that will be about $40 total for me.

The power outage really messed me up, I was OK until they kept pushing it back 2 hours at a time all day Friday, put me in a horrible mood that has not gone away over the last 2 days...
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: Toranaga on April 13, 2020, 11:53:17 AM
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Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: Russoguru on April 13, 2020, 05:00:41 PM
I am proud to report that despite the ludicrous excess of dipshits in my neck of the woods who neither practice social distancing nor wear a mask, we are somehow at least flattening the curve somewhat here in New Mexico. I fear for other states though, who may have to stay in quarantine a lot longer until things at least begin to start to return to normal.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: RVR II on April 13, 2020, 05:24:18 PM
I had 2 days off this week (Sunday & Monday) and I don't feel it was enough time..
I'm glad I have the job I have but dealing with those that should be at home handling their dirty mail, dirty packages, dirty money, etc., trying to avoid this damn virus, the last thing I want to worry about is my future with the USPS and dipshit Drumpf is adding another level of stress to my life now.. :-[
https://qz.com/1836901/trump-grudge-against-us-postal-service-is-a-threat-to-us-election/
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: RVR II on April 14, 2020, 02:30:48 PM
Got my $1200 'COVID-19' payment from the IRS this morning direct deposited into my saving account
 :highfive:
This still won't buy my vote for dipshit Drumpf in November >:(
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: Toranaga on April 14, 2020, 02:50:29 PM
I had 2 days off this week (Sunday & Monday) and I don't feel it was enough time..
I'm glad I have the job I have but dealing with those that should be at home handling their dirty mail, dirty packages, dirty money, etc., trying to avoid this damn virus, the last thing I want to worry about is my future with the USPS and dipshit Drumpf is adding another level of stress to my life now.. :-[
https://qz.com/1836901/trump-grudge-against-us-postal-service-is-a-threat-to-us-election/

Should we be concerned about catching the virus from our mail?
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: wihogfan on April 14, 2020, 03:58:41 PM
All my mail- at work and at home- gets sprayed with disinfectant and sits outside until it dries.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: RVR II on April 14, 2020, 04:05:56 PM
I had 2 days off this week (Sunday & Monday) and I don't feel it was enough time..
I'm glad I have the job I have but dealing with those that should be at home handling their dirty mail, dirty packages, dirty money, etc., trying to avoid this damn virus, the last thing I want to worry about is my future with the USPS and dipshit Drumpf is adding another level of stress to my life now.. :-[
https://qz.com/1836901/trump-grudge-against-us-postal-service-is-a-threat-to-us-election/

Should we be concerned about catching the virus from our mail?
The answer is not 100% no.. It doesn't seem to be able to survive very long on mail and parcels but the verdict is still out on that :-\
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: Pak-Man on April 14, 2020, 05:04:10 PM
I am proud to report that despite the ludicrous excess of dipshits in my neck of the woods who neither practice social distancing nor wear a mask, we are somehow at least flattening the curve somewhat here in New Mexico. I fear for other states though, who may have to stay in quarantine a lot longer until things at least begin to start to return to normal.

We were fortunate that Coronavirus started hitting NM way later than the rest of the country. When everyone started mandating social distancing, we didn't even have any confirmed cases. That's also convinced a lot of people that there was never anything to worry about, hence the ludicrous excess of idiots.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: stansimpson on April 15, 2020, 06:58:37 AM
I am proud to report that despite the ludicrous excess of dipshits in my neck of the woods who neither practice social distancing nor wear a mask, we are somehow at least flattening the curve somewhat here in New Mexico. I fear for other states though, who may have to stay in quarantine a lot longer until things at least begin to start to return to normal.

We were fortunate that Coronavirus started hitting NM way later than the rest of the country. When everyone started mandating social distancing, we didn't even have any confirmed cases. That's also convinced a lot of people that there was never anything to worry about, hence the ludicrous excess of idiots.

If people take caution properly, it'll be as though there wasn't ever a problem. You won't know if you overprepared, but you'll definitely know if you underprepared.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on April 15, 2020, 07:55:36 PM
Strange, I guess if you had a refund from the IRS they remember your direct deposit info, but if you owed $5 and they took it out of your account they don't save the info.  Went to the tracker site and it said no bank info on file, so I put the info in.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: goflyblind on April 15, 2020, 11:05:43 PM
Strange, I guess if you had a refund from the IRS they remember your direct deposit info, but if you owed $5 and they took it out of your account they don't save the info.  Went to the tracker site and it said no bank info on file, so I put the info in.

the prince of nigeria thanks you for using his brank infomation verifikation websight.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: Toranaga on April 16, 2020, 02:29:08 AM
My brother and I both have Direct Deposit set up with the IRS.  He got his $1200 and I didn't.  What gives?  Did those vultures at Navient intercept my money??? 
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on April 16, 2020, 07:23:22 AM
Strange, I guess if you had a refund from the IRS they remember your direct deposit info, but if you owed $5 and they took it out of your account they don't save the info.  Went to the tracker site and it said no bank info on file, so I put the info in.

the prince of nigeria thanks you for using his brank infomation verifikation websight.

I did actually look at the security certificate for the irs.gov site, something I never usually do...
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: wihogfan on April 16, 2020, 01:10:01 PM
Received both the stimulus and 2019 refund today.

Wisconsin stay at home order which was supposed to end next Friday has been extended through Memorial Day.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: RVR II on April 16, 2020, 01:25:49 PM
People still coming into the post office like it's Christmas!
Nobody seems to be following the stay at home order here in SC ::)
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: RVR II on April 18, 2020, 03:15:34 AM
From what I've seen on a daily basis, it's not like anyone is really taking this pandemic seriously anyway :-\
Scattered protests push back on U.S. coronavirus stay-at-home orders
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-usa-protests-idUSKBN21Y34A
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: The Lurker on April 18, 2020, 07:15:43 AM
From what I've seen on a daily basis, it's not like anyone is really taking this pandemic seriously anyway :-\
Scattered protests push back on U.S. coronavirus stay-at-home orders
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-usa-protests-idUSKBN21Y34A
From what I've heard, those protests are astroturfed.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on April 18, 2020, 08:55:52 AM
Waiting for my bags of mulch to be delivered that I would normally have picked up got me thinking about how much extra I've spent to get some stuff vs. normal.

I figure I've spent around $120 extra in the last month getting stuff shipped or buying higher priced items on Amazon Prime.

At least Cynch propane delivery is the same price as exchanging tanks at Lowes or Homedepot, so even when things get back to normal I'll be still using them.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: wihogfan on April 18, 2020, 09:40:51 AM
Finding things on Amazon Prime that will be delivered within a week has led me to spending more than normal as some of the exact same items have had shipping dates a month or longer. That said, I have ordered a couple of things with stated delivery dates of more than a month that have arrived within a week.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: wihogfan on April 18, 2020, 09:47:16 AM
1st new confirmed case in 2 weeks in my county yesterday. So we now have 8.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on April 18, 2020, 10:11:42 AM
Finding things on Amazon Prime that will be delivered within a week has led me to spending more than normal as some of the exact same items have had shipping dates a month or longer. That said, I have ordered a couple of things with stated delivery dates of more than a month that have arrived within a week.

That's been my experience as well, several items that were listed as not going to be delivered until May showed up in about a week.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: RVR II on April 20, 2020, 04:41:50 PM
Welp, it's not like anybody is staying home anyway here in my state..
Quote
South Carolina reopens many businesses effective immediately

South Carolina Gov. Henry McMaster said Monday he was reopening many non-essential businesses effective immediately and beaches on Tuesday.

The governor announced his decision after other state leaders spoke of tentative plans to reopen the economy in the coming weeks. McMaster's plan included the immediate reopening of retail locations such as department stores, clothing shops and book sellers.

Beaches will be open beginning at noon on Tuesday.

"I've restored public beach access, allowing locals to use their discretion. I've also allowed some retailers that were previously closed to open, but they must follow strict social distancing measures," McMaster said Monday.

As of Monday afternoon, there were 4,439 confirmed cases and 124 deaths due to coronavirus in South Carolina.

   
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/live-blog/2020-04-20-coronavirus-news-n1187556/ncrd1188331#liveBlogHeader
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: RVR II on April 21, 2020, 06:06:08 AM
It is now required to wear face masks when working the usps counter .
Better late than never I suppose
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: stansimpson on April 21, 2020, 08:36:51 AM
It is now required to wear face masks when working the usps counter .
Better late than never I suppose
I went to the UPS Store on Saturday (Amazon return; that QR code they email you is amazing: Walk in. Scan. Done.). They had the lines of where to stand apart, but I was the only one there. I was wearing a surgical mask for the first time, but the lady behind the counter wasn't. Another lady in the back stepped out briefly and looked to be wearing an N95 mask. In any case, I almost hyperventilated, because the top of the mask ends right where my glasses begin, so my glasses would fog up every time I breathed. I had to really slow down my breathing. Got really annoying. I'm just glad I was in-and-out.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: Johnny Unusual on April 23, 2020, 10:47:09 AM
I just want to give compliments to the socially responsible decision making of the *squints at notes* Insane Clown Posse.

https://news.avclub.com/put-on-your-sad-clown-face-the-gathering-of-the-juggal-1843022598?_ga=2.146073265.408579102.1585431887-204976493.1474518925
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: RVR II on April 23, 2020, 12:14:01 PM
It is now required to wear face masks when working the usps counter .
Better late than never I suppose
I went to the UPS Store on Saturday (Amazon return; that QR code they email you is amazing: Walk in. Scan. Done.). They had the lines of where to stand apart, but I was the only one there. I was wearing a surgical mask for the first time, but the lady behind the counter wasn't. Another lady in the back stepped out briefly and looked to be wearing an N95 mask. In any case, I almost hyperventilated, because the top of the mask ends right where my glasses begin, so my glasses would fog up every time I breathed. I had to really slow down my breathing. Got really annoying. I'm just glad I was in-and-out.
I got a N95 mask and it grips the bridge of my nose so hard it leaves bruise marks. I can't wear it constantly for that reason mostly  :-[
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: stansimpson on April 23, 2020, 02:10:10 PM
I just want to give compliments to the socially responsible decision making of the *squints at notes* Insane Clown Posse.

https://news.avclub.com/put-on-your-sad-clown-face-the-gathering-of-the-juggal-1843022598?_ga=2.146073265.408579102.1585431887-204976493.1474518925
"Water, fire, air, and dirt
F***ing magnets, how do they work?
And I don't wanna talk to no scientist
Y'all m*****f***ers lying, and getting me pissed"

From their all-time classic song, "Miracles". Can't say their anti-science stance surprises me.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: RoninFox on April 23, 2020, 03:37:38 PM
I just want to give compliments to the socially responsible decision making of the *squints at notes* Insane Clown Posse.

https://news.avclub.com/put-on-your-sad-clown-face-the-gathering-of-the-juggal-1843022598?_ga=2.146073265.408579102.1585431887-204976493.1474518925
"Water, fire, air, and dirt
F***ing magnets, how do they work?
And I don't wanna talk to no scientist
Y'all m*****f***ers lying, and getting me pissed"

From their all-time classic song, "Miracles". Can't say their anti-science stance surprises me.

How does a group cancelling their signature event for safety reasons while donating their merch to make masks with qualify as "anti-science"?
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: RoninFox on April 23, 2020, 03:41:14 PM
Work at my "essential" position has now become 12 hour shifts four times a week.

Nothing like adding exhaustion to the stress. Goes great with living in a state that's losing its damn mind because of the oil market crashing and trying to open up when we're nowhere near a peek.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: ScottotD on April 23, 2020, 04:22:01 PM
I just want to give compliments to the socially responsible decision making of the *squints at notes* Insane Clown Posse.

https://news.avclub.com/put-on-your-sad-clown-face-the-gathering-of-the-juggal-1843022598?_ga=2.146073265.408579102.1585431887-204976493.1474518925

ICP, like Furries being an easy punchline for basic people seems like it should have been over years ago.  Juggalos have shown many times they're largely, progressive and inclusive
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: Johnny Unusual on April 23, 2020, 04:40:34 PM
Hey, fair enough.  That said, without passing judgment, I always felt like their brand was irresponsible endangerment.  But that could simply be ignorance on my part.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: stansimpson on April 23, 2020, 05:54:04 PM
I just want to give compliments to the socially responsible decision making of the *squints at notes* Insane Clown Posse.

https://news.avclub.com/put-on-your-sad-clown-face-the-gathering-of-the-juggal-1843022598?_ga=2.146073265.408579102.1585431887-204976493.1474518925
"Water, fire, air, and dirt
F***ing magnets, how do they work?
And I don't wanna talk to no scientist
Y'all m*****f***ers lying, and getting me pissed"

From their all-time classic song, "Miracles". Can't say their anti-science stance surprises me.

How does a group cancelling their signature event for safety reasons while donating their merch to make masks with qualify as "anti-science"?

Dang it. I'm an idiot. I was on a phone call at work while reading/posting this. Now let's all forget this ever happened.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: RVR II on April 24, 2020, 02:22:12 AM
So I found out yesterday that postal inspector concluded their investigation on that guy that was selling massive amounts of toilet paper on ebay had made over $6000.00 and his account was banned from ebay :o

Also there is an ongoing investigation as to why some overweight packages are not getting caught during the shipping process and are either not returned to the sender for additional postage or labeled as 'postage due' for the recipient to pay at the post office before they can get the package.. A lot apparently are being caught but some are still getting through and it's up to us to try and catch these overweight packages before they enter the shipping system. This is a big reason the post office is in financial trouble as some shady people are trying to undercut their costs for shipping stuff >:(
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: RVR II on April 25, 2020, 03:44:02 AM
So yesterday after work I thought I'd swing by Burger King and use a Family Pack coupon for 3 Whoppers, 3 Cheesburgers and 3 small Fries for $12.99..
Get there and there's a line of cars wrapped around the building! OK after about a 15 minute wait I finally make it up to the speaker and they have a piece of paper taped on the menu board that they are out of whopper meat! Now I'm really aggravated! They couldn't post a sign on the back or side of the board that could be seen by cars waiting in line so maybe they would be aware of this and either move out of line to go elsewhere or continue to wait ???
I ask them what I could substitute for the Whoppers and they said I could get 3 Chicken sandwiches. Fair enough, but then they proceeded to tell me that they were out of Fries as well so I had to settle for 3 Onion Rings instead :grr:
I don't if somebody just didn't order enough supplies to last throughout the entire day or their supply trucks are limiting supplies during this pandemic but I know I won't be going back to BK for quite some time after this fiasco! >:(
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: RVR II on April 26, 2020, 03:52:48 PM
Can't post a link as the source wants you to pay for reading their article but..
Quote
SC will renew state of emergency order for up to 2 more weeks as state reaches nearly 5,500 cases.
Not like anybody was following the order to start with so I doubt this will have any effect around here ::)
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: wihogfan on April 27, 2020, 11:17:20 AM
Things have gone nuts here. The only change to the stay at home order has been that as of last Friday non-essential businesses can now offer curb side pickup. So a few more people are working then were working a week ago, but that can't explain why every grocery store, hardware store, any store that can allow people inside has been Xmas season busy since last Friday. Needed groceries, but all the stores were too busy so put it off until today. Ran to Walmart at lunch today. Not as busy as it was over the weekend, but back to being as busy as it was at lunch before all this hit. Social distancing- which has been good there up until today- wasn't being practiced. Lots of groups of customers standing around talking in all areas of the store. Store was almost out of all fresh meat, canned goods, and packaged food like mac and cheese and pasta. Frozen section about half full, so will be eating frozen food all week. Then had to ask a group of 4 employees standing at the exit of the self-checkout area to back away twice before they moved enough for me to maintain a 6 foot distance and get past them. Maybe it's because we're still sitting at only 6 confirmed cases in this county and people are just tired of taking this seriously, but just 30 miles north of here cases are skyrocketing (mostly due to an outbreak in a meat packing plant, but it's spreading quickly from people who caught it there to others).
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: wihogfan on April 27, 2020, 12:40:53 PM
So Walmart employees acting put off by my request to allow me 6 feet to exit made me to decide to complaint to Walmart- website has an online customer support chat feature that I've used before. In the past I've gotten connected to someone right away. Options today were leave a number and be called back in 3 hours and 45 minutes or wait online for 4 hours and 45 minutes.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: RVR II on April 27, 2020, 01:13:31 PM
The clerk that normally runs the small po box post office called out today and I was working by myself till they finally sent me some help after 3pm!
 :angry:
Non stop customers since i opened at 8:30am with no break and just now getting a 30 min lunch then I still have to close out !
I might get out of here by 6pm if I'm lucky  :-\
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: RVR II on April 28, 2020, 02:19:45 AM
The clerk that normally runs the small po box post office called out today and I was working by myself till they finally sent me some help after 3pm!
 :angry:
Non stop customers since i opened at 8:30am with no break and just now getting a 30 min lunch then I still have to close out !
I might get out of here by 6pm if I'm lucky  :-\
Went to bed shortly after 9pm last night because I was just so mentally fatigued and I slept on this fiasco..
I remember that the senior clerk had to work by herself this past Friday because I had to go to another post office to work and I remember her saying that the new Postmaster must think this small PO box post office can be run by one person (which of course it can't without causing a substantial amount of chaos-which it did while I was there yesterday)..
She was none too thrilled about being by herself I'm sure so as a result, she called out sick as her way to get back at the new postmaster for leaving her by herself on Friday. This happened before last month when she pissed off the clerks at the main post office in downtown and I was forced to work by myself for nearly 6 hours there.. So as a result I was left to work by myself with nonstop customers all the while hoping that none of them had this damn virus because there was literally no way to avoid possible exposure with the amount of people that came through the post office yesterday :-[
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: wihogfan on April 29, 2020, 01:55:10 PM
Gas prices starting to climb back up here. Paid 95 cents a gallon early last week. Was $1.05 late last week and while I didn't really need to fill up again that was what I paid to fill up this morning. Good timing because it was up to $1.19 at lunch time. Still cheap, but hope we don't see too many weeks of 20+ cent increases.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on April 29, 2020, 03:05:22 PM
 According to the IRS website I should be my stimulus money deposited tomorrow.  I was going to donate it to Philabundance but I keep reading that smaller private colleges might not survive being shut down for so long, so now I'm not sure if I should still donate it or hold onto it....
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: RVR II on April 29, 2020, 03:25:03 PM
According to the IRS website I should be my stimulus money deposited tomorrow.  I was going to donate it to Philabundance but I keep reading that smaller private colleges might not survive being shut down for so long, so now I'm not sure if I should still donate it or hold onto it....
I would wait. Maybe something like 'Meals on Wheels' would be better :-\
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on April 29, 2020, 03:45:00 PM
According to the IRS website I should be my stimulus money deposited tomorrow.  I was going to donate it to Philabundance but I keep reading that smaller private colleges might not survive being shut down for so long, so now I'm not sure if I should still donate it or hold onto it....
I would wait. Maybe something like 'Meals on Wheels' would be better :-\

I'm not worried about Philabundance going away, I'm worried that my work might not survive.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: RVR II on April 29, 2020, 04:03:08 PM
According to the IRS website I should be my stimulus money deposited tomorrow.  I was going to donate it to Philabundance but I keep reading that smaller private colleges might not survive being shut down for so long, so now I'm not sure if I should still donate it or hold onto it....
I would wait. Maybe something like 'Meals on Wheels' would be better :-\

I'm not worried about Philabundance going away, I'm worried that my work might not survive.
Ah. Even more reason to hold onto it just in case
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on April 30, 2020, 09:57:03 AM
According to the IRS website I should be my stimulus money deposited tomorrow.  I was going to donate it to Philabundance but I keep reading that smaller private colleges might not survive being shut down for so long, so now I'm not sure if I should still donate it or hold onto it....
I would wait. Maybe something like 'Meals on Wheels' would be better :-\

I'm not worried about Philabundance going away, I'm worried that my work might not survive.
Ah. Even more reason to hold onto it just in case

I donated some of it, and then ordered $100 of crab meat, scallops, and lobster tails from The Crab Place.   A few hundred bucks is not going to make much of a difference in the long run if things go belly up.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: RVR II on April 30, 2020, 01:11:25 PM
That's understandable.
Just went by Walmart and there's no shortage of meat but there was a shortage of eggs..
And we are still out of paper towels but there's a half shelf stock of TP ???
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: Johnny Unusual on April 30, 2020, 05:36:42 PM
New Brunswick has been doing exceptionally well with our quarantine.  We went from red to orange: stores are still closed and stuff but we can expand our social bubbles a bit for families.  Now my parents can see their grandkids again.  They are very happy.  If all goes well, in a few weeks we'll be at "yellow" and can have a few more social bubbles.  Meaning I can visit my besty so we can watch anime and Star Trek again.  Hooray!
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: CJones on April 30, 2020, 08:02:33 PM
New Brunswick has been doing exceptionally well with our quarantine.  We went from red to orange: stores are still closed and stuff but we can expand our social bubbles a bit for families.  Now my parents can see their grandkids again.  They are very happy.  If all goes well, in a few weeks we'll be at "yellow" and can have a few more social bubbles.  Meaning I can visit my besty so we can watch anime and Star Trek again.  Hooray!

I'm happy for your parents.

My sister is set to move away in June, which means of course taking her two children, 6 and 1, away from their grandmother. They haven't been able to see her (or me for that matter) these last couple months. They use to spend a lot of time over here, but once they move that will be all over. So this whole COVID-19 business came at a really unfortunate time.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: Russoguru on May 01, 2020, 04:03:16 PM
I'm scared for every state(and every country around the world by extension), especially mine since I live in it. Anyway, middle of May shit is going to start going back to normal... just one problem though... once the lockdown is slowly lifted, peeps might stop wearing masks, stop socially distancing and just be spiteful little assholes... start licking doorknobs and bannisters and spit on as many people as possible.

Yeah, I know, ridiculous, but I find a measure of truth in cynicism. Even today, people in Walmart are still... ARE STILL not wearing any fucking masks!!! I want to scream what the fucking fuck you inconsiderate fucking twat??? 

I got to admit, it's hard for me to get used to wearing masks, but you know what? I do it because the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, or the one. What else are the needs of the many? We ALL need to stay healthy, because I think mother nature is trying to teach us a hard lesson, that staying healthy trumps our ability to continue earning capital!!!!!!

If you think dying your roots/getting a haircut or going back to work is more important than the health/safety of the community... you can go fuck yourself and I'll even stick my middle finger right in your face if you want, that's how seriously I take the gravity of this situation.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: Variety of Cells on May 01, 2020, 10:31:40 PM
I don’t wear a mask while riding my bicycle. I do everywhere else, but I have trouble breathing with it on while riding. I probably still should, but I don’t.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: Johnny Unusual on May 02, 2020, 08:17:44 AM
When you bike are you surrounded by people?  When I go biking I'm generally biking in places with not a lot of people and keep a wide berth.  When I go jogging I wear a mask.  Its a little harder to breath but you never know if there is going to be an emergency where someone has to break the distance.  But again, usually where I go isn't too traffic heavy.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: Variety of Cells on May 02, 2020, 08:33:32 AM
I live in New York City, so there are people everywhere.  But I use my bicycle as my form of transportation, which is better than spreading the virus through the subway or in cabs. 
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: Russoguru on May 02, 2020, 09:59:50 AM
I live in New York City
NEW YORK CITY????
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: wihogfan on May 02, 2020, 01:11:39 PM
So nearby grocery store is fairly well stocked after a recent run of people hoarding again. But now they've put even more restrictions on the amount of items you can buy in almost every area to the point that I had to make trips there both yesterday and today in order to get a week's supply of food. I get what they're trying to do, but I've been trying to make one trip to the store a week and these restrictions effectively kill my ability to keep to that limit.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: Pastor of Muppets on May 05, 2020, 11:25:56 AM
That's understandable.
Just went by Walmart and there's no shortage of meat but there was a shortage of eggs..
And we are still out of paper towels but there's a half shelf stock of TP ???

Are there other grocery stores in your area?  It's been my experience that Walmart is always the worst stocked.  I went there a few weeks ago for flour and couldn't find any.  Plain old flour!
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: Pastor of Muppets on May 05, 2020, 11:28:09 AM
If you think dying your roots/getting a haircut or going back to work is more important than the health/safety of the community... you can go fuck yourself and I'll even stick my middle finger right in your face if you want, that's how seriously I take the gravity of this situation.

I think that the right of people to make a living to pay their bills is pretty damn important.

But it's nice that you are okay and don't have to worry about that kind of thing, right?
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: Pastor of Muppets on May 05, 2020, 11:36:18 AM
I'm scared for every state(and every country around the world by extension), especially mine since I live in it. Anyway, middle of May shit is going to start going back to normal... just one problem though... once the lockdown is slowly lifted, peeps might stop wearing masks, stop socially distancing and just be spiteful little assholes... start licking doorknobs and bannisters and spit on as many people as possible.

People who would intentionally lick doorknobs and spit on people aren't being held back from doing that by any stay at home orders.  You can easily go anywhere you want. 

Everyone is spiteful and cruel in their own way.  They just pick the flavor of cruelty they and their peers find socially acceptable.  See, for example, your utter disregard for people financially suffering from not being allowed to work.

Our governor mandated the wearing of masks in public places.  I'm still not wearing one.  95% of cases are mild.  I keep my distance from people.  I also don't go around coughing in people's faces or breathing on them.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: Russoguru on May 05, 2020, 11:39:02 AM
I think that the right of people to make a living to pay their bills is pretty damn important.
But it's nice that you are okay and don't have to worry about that kind of thing, right?
Oh come on Pastor, you know what I'm talking about. If you're an essential worker... AWESOME, wonderful, kick-ass. On the other hand, if your profession unnecessarily exposes you or others to a potentially dangerous and even deadly virus... then I'm sorry man but concern for human life outweighs one's ability to pay the bills!

I know you feel very strongly, I really, really do, but if I was in the same position as somebody who has to pay their bills and can't go to work, I'd be saying the same thing.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: eegah on May 05, 2020, 11:45:03 AM
I think that the right of people to make a living to pay their bills is pretty damn important.

But it's nice that you are okay and don't have to worry about that kind of thing, right?

Everyone is spiteful and cruel in their own way.  They just pick the flavor of cruelty they and their peers find socially acceptable.  See, for example, your utter disregard for people financially suffering from not being allowed to work.

Opening up businesses doesn't necessarily help business owners or workers. In fact, it can prevent owners from getting government assistance and workers from collecting unemployment. Owners are now forced to open, even though they may now do much less business than is necessary to keep afloat. Workers now have no choice but to go back to work and risk their lives in order to make ends meet, because they are no longer eligible for unemployment.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: The Lurker on May 05, 2020, 11:46:17 AM
Plus, tests aren't widespread enough to know who and who isn't carrying it.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: RVR II on May 05, 2020, 11:46:58 AM
Here in northern SC yesterday was non stop customers all day and today seems to be a repeat.
Half with masks half without all ages kids to elderly and several complaints about why their mail or packages are delayed.
I guess some people don't have a clue that there's a pandemic going on ::)

And a 2nd cruise I had reserved for the end of August was canceled so we requested a full refund on that.

Looks like it's just gonna be continuous front line exposure to dirty mail dirty parcels dirty money and dirty people for the foreseeable future.. AWESOME   :-[
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: The Lurker on May 05, 2020, 11:49:25 AM
Opening doesn't matter much if people are too skittish to show up.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: stansimpson on May 05, 2020, 12:09:33 PM
So, my brother-in-law has been very, very slowly descending into conspiracies (you know where this is going). Started a few years ago when he said he didn't believe the US landed on the moon. Something about iPhone technology being so powerful now, how could they do it then. He used to be pretty rational in college (philosophy major). It's been quite the turnaround. Sure enough, he believes the numbers about the pandemic are overblown and likely a hoax, and those in power are just in it for themselves.

I've done my best to avoid the issue. Now his kid is having a big birthday party and wants everyone to come. My wife, my kid, & I are gonna be the only ones that won't be there. Told my wife how disappointed I am about every person who plans to be there. Did you know one of the biggest outbreaks in this country came from a 40th birthday party? It's just stupid. Reminds me of a meme I saw: "Your grandma may die, but that's a risk I'm willing to make."

It's been hard enough to ignore a chunk of my side of the family 4 states away who believe in every MLM snake oil because the FDA is out to get people. Now I've gotta put up with this nonsense here as it slowly poisons my brother-in-law's brain because the CDC is out to get people. Happened to watch a video a few weeks ago that talked about the subtle methods of brainwashing done through YouTube videos and podcasts. I've seen a few friends get lost in this, and it was scary how accurate it was. Helped me a lot to understand their paths (and my own behavior when I went through my teen years). All young white men, of course. Funny how that goes. It's really long but well worth it. Recommended for anyone interested:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P55t6eryY3g (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P55t6eryY3g)
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: Pastor of Muppets on May 05, 2020, 12:40:14 PM
I think that the right of people to make a living to pay their bills is pretty damn important.
But it's nice that you are okay and don't have to worry about that kind of thing, right?
Oh come on Pastor, you know what I'm talking about. If you're an essential worker... AWESOME, wonderful, kick-ass. On the other hand, if your profession unnecessarily exposes you or others to a potentially dangerous and even deadly virus... then I'm sorry man but concern for human life outweighs one's ability to pay the bills!

But that's the thing.  It isn't dangerous or deadly to 95% of people.  Yet 100% of those people have to pay bills.  If I didn't live with someone I care about who is in that 5%, I would have no problems walking into a COVID-19 ward and giving a patient a big sloppy kiss on the mouth.  I mean, apart from the social awkwardness of kissing a stranger.

If someone wants to work but cannot because of a government mandate, and instead has to suffer, that's bullshit.  You are saying that someone who is in absolutely no danger has to suffer because of your fears.

And your assertion that this is okay because of concern for human life is a fallacy.  Human life is not at risk in the overwhelming majority of encounters.

But I should clarify here.  I am not against these measures exactly.  Slowing down the growth rate is necessary.  What I am against is these things extending indefinitely.  Illinois governor Pritzger announced the first lockdown to go until April 8th.  Then he extended it to May 1st.  Now he has extended it to June 1st.  At this point I have no trust that he won't just keep moving the goalposts.  The fact of the matter is that we won't have a vaccine until the end of 2021 at the earliest.  We have to learn to coexist with this virus.  Shutting down the economy and cowering for that long simply is not an option.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: Pastor of Muppets on May 05, 2020, 12:40:53 PM
Opening doesn't matter much if people are too skittish to show up.

Even if a business got 10% of the business they got before this hit, it's still better than 0% for an indefinite period of time.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: eegah on May 05, 2020, 12:52:28 PM
Opening doesn't matter much if people are too skittish to show up.

Even if a business got 10% of the business they got before this hit, it's still better than 0% for an indefinite period of time.

Not if the 10% is less than the government assistance that they could get if they were forced to close.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on May 05, 2020, 12:57:03 PM
Opening doesn't matter much if people are too skittish to show up.

Even if a business got 10% of the business they got before this hit, it's still better than 0% for an indefinite period of time.

Pretty sure most businesses will still go bankrupt with a 90% reduction in customers.  For a low margin business a 20% loss can lead to bankruptcy.

In case anyone has missed the latest genetic studies on the virus, apparently it mutated sometime in late march and that new strain is the one that is dominate in most heavy outbreaks now.  And the new strain seems to be both more deadly and easier to transmit.  That seems to be why some heavy outbreaks have accelerated faster than expected.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: The Lurker on May 05, 2020, 02:05:34 PM
About the dominant strain of Coronavirus: https://twitter.com/angie_rasmussen/status/1257716419166236672 (https://twitter.com/angie_rasmussen/status/1257716419166236672)

I'd love it if the forums allowed for direct Twitter embeds, but I'm not sure that's possible.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on May 05, 2020, 02:12:26 PM
Ok, so not enough data yet to tell if the new strain is more or less transmissible than the original, it has simply become the dominate strain in certian areas.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: RVR II on May 05, 2020, 04:11:08 PM
Ok, so not enough data yet to tell if the new strain is more or less transmissible than the original, it has simply become the dominate strain in certian areas.
For some reason the movie Independence Day flashed in my head reading this..
Like we're being exterminated :scared:
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: wihogfan on May 05, 2020, 04:16:02 PM
Not if the 10% is less than the government assistance that they could get if they were forced to close.
Much of that gov't assistance is going to businesses that never closed and whose business may not even be down.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: goflyblind on May 05, 2020, 10:09:59 PM
Our governor mandated the wearing of masks in public places.  I'm still not wearing one.

GOOD JOB YOU FUCKING MORON. CONGRATULATIONS ON KILLING PEOPLE.

can you be fined? i hope you get the maximum. idiot.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: ScottotD on May 05, 2020, 10:30:16 PM

I think that the right of people to make a living to pay their bills is pretty damn important.


"I HAVE THE RIGHT TO BE AN EXPLOITED COG IN THE MACHINE OF CAPITALISM" is a fucking stupid hill to die on...


Our governor mandated the wearing of masks in public places.  I'm still not wearing one.

Oh look, you outdid yourself.

 Shouldn't you be busy waving a gun and a confederate flag at a McDonalds or something?
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: Russoguru on May 05, 2020, 10:45:34 PM
But I should clarify here.  I am not against these measures exactly.  Slowing down the growth rate is necessary.  What I am against is these things extending indefinitely.  Illinois governor Pritzger announced the first lockdown to go until April 8th.  Then he extended it to May 1st.  Now he has extended it to June 1st.  At this point I have no trust that he won't just keep moving the goalposts.  The fact of the matter is that we won't have a vaccine until the end of 2021 at the earliest.  We have to learn to coexist with this virus.  Shutting down the economy and cowering for that long simply is not an option.
Here's the deal Pastor. You go out and unnecessarily expose yourself or others, you're not just gambling with your life, you're gambling with the lives of other people, and consequentially all the people they come in contact with too.

If you want to gamble with your own life Pastor, FINE, but you have no right to gamble with the lives of countless other people. I know you're smart Pastor, so I shouldn't have to remind you, but pretty much anything is preferable to death. I don't know about you Pastor, but I don't think I could live with myself if my actions either directly or indirectly led to somebody catching a virus and dying from it.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: Quirk on May 06, 2020, 07:56:06 AM
Our governor mandated the wearing of masks in public places.  I'm still not wearing one.

Hey, just wanted to pop in to tell you to go to hell, you wimpy puckered asshole.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: Pak-Man on May 06, 2020, 08:16:22 AM
All right, everyone. We can disagree, and we can debate, but I'm going to ask everyone to stop attacking.

  • Respect each other. We respect dissenting views, but refrain from ad hominem attacks. Keep the debate civil.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: goflyblind on May 06, 2020, 08:37:59 AM
All right, everyone. We can disagree, and we can debate, but I'm going to ask everyone to stop attacking.

  • Respect each other. We respect dissenting views, but refrain from ad hominem attacks. Keep the debate civil.

yeah, everyone, let's try to think about this from the virus' point of view! we should let more people die unnecessarily so that it doesn't feel left out. :'(
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: Pak-Man on May 06, 2020, 08:45:53 AM
I'm not defending or endorsing the viewpoint, and by all means feel free to post measured and civil rebuttal, but the attack needs to be directed at the viewpoint, not the person who has that viewpoint. Tensions are high right now, and I'd really rather not have to send this post to the inferno, since there are plenty of non-controversial aspects to the state of the world right now that merit discussion.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: Quirk on May 06, 2020, 11:08:25 AM
Can I direct criticism at his actions?
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on May 06, 2020, 11:36:47 AM
It's not that hard to redirect to the 3rd person.

Anyone that could wear a mask and chooses not to is selfishly putting others at risk. 

It's like firing shots into a crowd, some might be missed, some might have minor injuries, some might have to spend a few days in the hospital, and some will die.  Sure, if you don't have the virus you are shooting blanks, but that's still quite upsetting to the crowd....
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: The Lurker on May 06, 2020, 11:38:22 AM
Especially with a disease where you can be an asymptomatic spreader.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: Russoguru on May 06, 2020, 12:00:14 PM
Until we get a vaccine, I just might keep wearing masks, goggles and gloves.... and I might even get a level 8 hazmat mask if the ones I got now prove to be way too goddamn hot. The wise among us should still at the very least still socially distance and not gather in groups of more than 8.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: RVR II on May 06, 2020, 12:10:18 PM
The local post offices replaced our clear hanging shower curtain liners that actually worked with narrow plexiglass shields at each station that are basically useless because people just step beside them instead of staying directly in front of them  ::)
PERFECT!! :grr:
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: Russoguru on May 06, 2020, 12:12:45 PM
The local post offices replaced our clear hanging shower curtain liners that actually worked with narrow plexiglass shields at each station that are basically useless because people just step beside them instead of staying directly in front of them  ::)
PERFECT!! :grr:
WTF????
Goddamn people are fucking stupid. Those goddamn partitions protect people on BOTH sides of it. People who are stupid enough to try and step beside them to talk need to be sent back to fucking grade school biology.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: ScottotD on May 06, 2020, 02:59:53 PM
It's not that hard to redirect to the 3rd person.

Anyone that could wear a mask and chooses not to is selfishly putting others at risk. 

It's like firing shots into a crowd, some might be missed, some might have minor injuries, some might have to spend a few days in the hospital, and some will die.  Sure, if you don't have the virus you are shooting blanks, but that's still quite upsetting to the crowd....


Anyone who could wear a mask and choses not to prove a point should get a motorbike and not wear a helmet instead
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: RVR II on May 06, 2020, 06:39:35 PM
The local post offices replaced our clear hanging shower curtain liners that actually worked with narrow plexiglass shields at each station that are basically useless because people just step beside them instead of staying directly in front of them  ::)
PERFECT!! :grr:
WTF????
Goddamn people are fucking stupid. Those goddamn partitions protect people on BOTH sides of it. People who are stupid enough to try and step beside them to talk need to be sent back to fucking grade school biology.
In about 2 weeks I won't have to deal much with this anymore when I change crafts so I'll be looking forward to being away from the general public of idiocy that abounds around my locale :-X
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on May 06, 2020, 07:06:40 PM
The local post offices replaced our clear hanging shower curtain liners that actually worked with narrow plexiglass shields at each station that are basically useless because people just step beside them instead of staying directly in front of them  ::)
PERFECT!! :grr:
WTF????
Goddamn people are fucking stupid. Those goddamn partitions protect people on BOTH sides of it. People who are stupid enough to try and step beside them to talk need to be sent back to fucking grade school biology.
In about 2 weeks I won't have to deal much with this anymore when I change crafts so I'll be looking forward to being away from the general public of idiocy that abounds around my locale :-X

The idiocy is everywhere.  I was driving behind a Septa bus the other day and at every stop the people getting on and off were not wearing masks, not a single one.

Think I'll stick with home delivery of food for another few weeks, last time I went out I was wearing a mask but only a few others in the store were.

For some reason I've been craving beef the last few weeks.  Haven't had a good burger in decades, and even longer for steak.  So I decided to try Omaha Steaks, guess I'll find out this weekend if they really have better tasting steaks and burgers.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: ScottotD on May 06, 2020, 10:55:03 PM
Apologies if I'm late to the party on this but it finally occurred to me that those idiot 'protestors' in the US are treating the virus like it's 9/11 jingoism, as if their changing anything in their lives for a moment means the virus "wins"
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: goflyblind on May 07, 2020, 12:01:27 AM
Apologies if I'm late to the party on this but it finally occurred to me that those idiot 'protestors' in the US are treating the virus like it's 9/11 jingoism, as if their changing anything in their lives for a moment means the virus "wins"

so we just need some re-branding for the americans? "freedom self-isolating"? all face masks have the american flag on them?


oooooooooohhhhhhhhh shit. "flattening the curve" -> curve flattened -> mission accomplished banner -> open everything back up -> hundreds of thousands more dead people.  :scared:
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: RVR II on May 07, 2020, 04:58:27 AM
Apologies if I'm late to the party on this but it finally occurred to me that those idiot 'protestors' in the US are treating the virus like it's 9/11 jingoism, as if their changing anything in their lives for a moment means the virus "wins"

so we just need some re-branding for the americans? "freedom self-isolating"? all face masks have the american flag on them?


oooooooooohhhhhhhhh shit. "flattening the curve" -> curve flattened -> mission accomplished banner -> open everything back up -> hundreds of thousands more dead people.  :scared:
(https://i.imgur.com/ZPDrNiW.gif)
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: wihogfan on May 07, 2020, 12:04:37 PM
hundreds of thousands more dead people.

Hundreds of thousands of more dead implies that hundreds of thousands have already died in the U.S.  They haven't.
Personally I'm going to continue doing what I've been doing regardless of what reopens, but I also get why people are upset about a one size fits all approach. What makes sense in a densely populated city doesn't make the same sense when you live in a speadout county of a quarter of a million with only 6 confirmed cases and zero deaths and no new cases in 2 weeks.
Is opening up going to cause that to jump dramatically? Maybe, but how many weeks do you need to go with no new cases before you do? Glad I'm not making those decisions.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: RoninFox on May 07, 2020, 01:29:32 PM
hundreds of thousands more dead people.

Hundreds of thousands of more dead implies that hundreds of thousands have already died in the U.S.  They haven't.
Personally I'm going to continue doing what I've been doing regardless of what reopens, but I also get why people are upset about a one size fits all approach. What makes sense in a densely populated city doesn't make the same sense when you live in a speadout county of a quarter of a million with only 6 confirmed cases and zero deaths and no new cases in 2 weeks.
Is opening up going to cause that to jump dramatically? Maybe, but how many weeks do you need to go with no new cases before you do? Glad I'm not making those decisions.

I'm living in Texas where the governor opened up the state on a weekend with the most new cases reported so far and no sign of slowing down then admitted on a hot mic that he knows it'll result in more cases.

I'm also in one of the biggest cities in Texas in the county with the most cases so far working 12 hours shifts at a job that by all rights is not essential, but in a warehouse that supports oil and gas so 'yer dern tootin' I'm considered essential here.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: wihogfan on May 07, 2020, 01:49:35 PM
Yeah, not going to argue there aren't areas that are open and shouldn't be. Also know our 6 cases is under reported because majority of people being tested are only people with illnesses severe enough to seek medical treatment and healthcare workers. Ideal situation would be opening back up areas that haven't been severely affected and only those areas, but only way for that to be effective would be to restrict travel- no one from highly affected areas can travel to less affected areas and vice versa- and that ain't going to happen. So not going to argue I have real solutions, only that I understand some of the frustration I'm seeing in this area about some of the restrictions. Don't totally agree with it, but I understand it.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: wihogfan on May 08, 2020, 09:09:25 AM
So free available testing in Wisconsin if you're African American or Latino regardless of exposure. Still no testing for others unless you've been potentially exposed or have symptoms.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: wihogfan on May 11, 2020, 03:56:46 PM
Testing starting to get more agressive and with it confirmed numbers of infected. Small stores can reopen but have to restrict number insode store to 5 customers. Drivein theaters can reopen too- think we have 2 in the whole state- only 1 that I'm sure of and it's a couple of hours away. Had sworn I wasn't going to go to Walmart again for awhile after trip there over a week ago when it was too crowded, but only store without limits on food items so did my grocery shopping for the next week plus there yesterday. Nothing but home and work for me for at least the next 9 days.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: CJones on May 12, 2020, 10:43:40 AM
Here's some disheartening statistics, just in case you were under any misconception that the COVID-19 pandemic wasn't utterly mishandled in the US.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/?utm_campaign=homeAdvegas1?%22

Some pertinent numbers:

Total number of cases, per country, top 11 (as of May 12):

1 USA - 1,393,228
2 Spain - 269,520
3 Russia - 232,243
4 UK - 226,463
5 Italy - 221,216
6 France - 177,423
7 Germany - 172,812    
8 Brazil - 172,243
9 Turkey - 141,475    
10 Iran - 110,767
11 China - 82,919

I have no doubt China's number is grossly under-reported, but still, 83K vs our 1.4M. They have a much higher and much more densely packed population. Granted, they also have the "advantage" of having to deal with this kind of crap a lot more often than us

We (the US) have about as many cases as the next 6 countries combined.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: Russoguru on May 12, 2020, 11:34:11 AM
Total number of cases, per country, top 11 (as of May 12):
1 USA - 1,393,228
2 Spain - 269,520
3 Russia - 232,243
4 UK - 226,463
5 Italy - 221,216
6 France - 177,423
7 Germany - 172,812    
8 Brazil - 172,243
9 Turkey - 141,475    
10 Iran - 110,767
11 China - 82,919
A certain orange politician: "We are doing so much better than the rest of the world, we are doing number 1 in this contest."
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: wihogfan on May 12, 2020, 02:17:39 PM
Looking at those numbers from a more statiscally relevant point of view and not trying to throw politics at it, percentage of infected population of U.S. less than percentage infected in Russia. Percentage of population infected for 6 of the top 10 countries (all but Russia, Brazil, Turkey, and Iran) is virtually identical. Too many factors involved (what percentage of population in each country has been tested, what kind of test was done, etc) for me to be convinced the numbers are comparing apples to apples though.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: CJones on May 12, 2020, 04:06:16 PM
Yeah, but that's less fun  :P

You're right though, that did occur to me after I posted that.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: CJones on May 12, 2020, 06:18:06 PM
Okay, so I did some more research and, if Wikipedia is to be trusted, the US is #11 in the world in cases per capita.

Cases per million inhabitants, as of May 10th. Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic_by_country_and_territory

1 San Marino    18985    
2 Vatican City    14545    
3 Andorra    9724    
4 Qatar            8056    
5 Luxembourg  6192    
6 Iceland    4919    
7 Spain            4764    
8 Ireland    4625    
9 Belgium    4602    
10 Gibraltar    4334    
11 United States    4099

Interesting to note, most of the countries ahead of us are minuscule.

Also of note, China reports 59 per million, India 46, and Russia 1429.     
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: goflyblind on May 13, 2020, 05:15:48 AM
Quote
Poland eases lockdown, hairdressers, cafes set to re-open
   
Hairdressers and beauty parlours and will be allowed to re-open on May 18 as Poland moves into a third phase of easing its coronavirus lockdown rules, the country’s prime minister announced on Wednesday.

Restaurants, bars and cafes will also be able open their doors, though the amount of customers they can serve will depend on the size of the premises, Prime Minister Mateusz Morawiecki told reporters.
A greater number of passengers will be allowed onto public transport.
https://www.polskieradio.pl/395/7789/Artykul/2509623,UPDATE-Poland-eases-lockdown-hairdressers-cafes-set-to-reopen

i don't think we're testing nearly enough to do this. the huge spike of positive cases from the coal miners yesterday shows that. similar population to canada (~1.2M tests, 32 tests/1000 people), but there've only been ~500k tests here (13 tests/1000 people). i am so glad i can work from home and that there are so many food delivery options in warsaw. i do still miss going out for a walk.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: wihogfan on May 13, 2020, 07:52:14 AM
Cases per capita doesn't mean much either nor does comparing country to country or even state to state or area in a state to another area.
I'll use my county as an example. We finally started testing people who have syptoms but aren't sick enough to be hospitalized. 4% of those tested over the last week have tested positive causing our reported number of infected to skyrocket. Does that mean that we have a new outbreak or more infected then we had 4 weeks ago? No, it just means more people have been tested. And still the only tests have been of people exhibiting symptoms and there have been no antibody tests done.
But tests in Milwaukee where over half the known cases in the state have come from has been much more agressive in testing and has been testing people with no symptoms and some antibody testing, so you can start to draw some conclusions from ongoing testing there that you can't yet here.
My point is that comparing number of cases or even per capita cases in Yugoslavia to the U.S. is kind of like comparing Seinfeld, Wyoming to New York City. And there are too many interest groups right now with agendas trying to manipulate numbers to show what they don't really show.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: RVR II on May 13, 2020, 08:12:29 AM
This idiot came into the post office saying trump is on a roll with the post office isn't he?  And I responded that I don't like wondering if I will have a job or not. That shut him up ::)
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: RVR II on May 13, 2020, 09:13:02 AM
This idiot came into the post office saying trump is on a roll with the post office isn't he?  And I responded that I don't like wondering if I will have a job or not. That shut him up ::)
And of course he didn't have a mask on not to mention coughing in the lobby. . PERFECT  :grr:
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: CJones on May 13, 2020, 10:07:20 AM
Back when I was in the shipping business (about 10 years ago), I read that about 40% of the world's mail passes through the USPS at some point. So I fail to see what people imagine will happen if the USPS goes under, other than pandemonium.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: RVR II on May 13, 2020, 11:36:12 AM
This BS scare tactic dipshit drumpf is doing  has a lot of us on edge.
There will be chaos if the USPS gets shut down. The latest segment of John Oliver tells us what the real issue is from a bill passed in 2006 that needs to be revised but the orange cheese puff would rather blame Amazon ::)
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: wihogfan on May 13, 2020, 04:51:28 PM
Wisconsin supreme court has ruled that the governor didn't have authority to extend his stay at home order without seeking approval from the legislature, so effective immediately everything can open back up with no legal restrictions. Stupid in a lot of ways, but governor was using some restrictions to specifically target some of his political enemies and allowing allies in the same or similar businesses to remain open, so it's not a huge surprise. Agree with the ruling from a legal perspective, but it's not what's best for public safety. Would like to think this would force some quick action to put at least some restrictions back in place but expect it will just result in a lot of name calling and blaming and nothing happening very fast
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: wihogfan on May 14, 2020, 05:07:12 AM
Sounds like many area bars opened last time and some had a lot of customers- people with screwed up priorities. Local gov't reacted quicker then I expected. My county and most of the surrounding counties have enacted their own stay at home orders already. Initial orders appear to be for a week with local mayor saying it was a week in order to give legislature time to act. Expect legislature to pass something that limits capacity and some other "suggestions" but not much else. Whether governor signs it or not will probably depend on what other things get thrown in that have nothing to do with the crises.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: Pak-Man on May 14, 2020, 07:29:31 AM
New Mexico is allowing all retail stores to reopen at 20% capacity starting Saturday (Except for a couple smaller cities that are getting pummeled with COVID), but to mitigate that increased risk, they're also making masks mandatory, rather than strongly encouraged.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: CJones on May 14, 2020, 08:27:45 AM
Speaking of Amazon, they are making an absolute killing off this pandemic. I heard on NPR a couple days ago that if Amazon keeps making money at the rate they currently are, Jeff Bezos will be the world first trillionaire by 2027.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: goflyblind on May 14, 2020, 08:46:02 AM
Speaking of Amazon, they are making an absolute killing off this pandemic. I heard on NPR a couple days ago that if Amazon keeps making money at the rate they currently are, Jeff Bezos will be the world first trillionaire by 2027.

but how are they gonna make any money once the post office raises rates on their packages? ::)
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: ScottotD on May 14, 2020, 03:26:17 PM
Speaking of Amazon, they are making an absolute killing off this pandemic. I heard on NPR a couple days ago that if Amazon keeps making money at the rate they currently are, Jeff Bezos will be the world first trillionaire by 2027.

 I really hope guillotines make a comeback when this is over
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: wihogfan on May 15, 2020, 02:31:06 PM
Minor league baseball team in Milwaukee area installing a drive-in screen in their parking lot and intending to show movies until season starts (if it starts-not a MiLB team which has already canceled their season- this one is an indepent league team) and afterwards when team is out of town. Not sure if it will be successful, but seems like a good idea to try. Lots of minor league teams have similar parking lots that don't see much use outside of game days and I'd be more willing to go to a drive-in right now than a theater.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: wihogfan on May 15, 2020, 03:43:52 PM
And things keep changing just about every hour it seems. After state stay at home order got shot down on Wednesday, most cities and counties enacted their own version of it. This afternoon almost all of them recinded their orders. Parking lot of the bar that's on my way home from work was packed. I'm sitting on the back porth enjoying the sun with a homebrew. Not planning to leave the house again until I have to return to work on Monday.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: Johnny Unusual on May 17, 2020, 03:08:46 PM
My province has been doing great.  120 cases.  All recovered.  No deaths.  No new cases in weeks.  Not looking forward to seeing if the next wave changes that but so far so good.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: RoninFox on May 19, 2020, 06:00:32 AM
Found out this morning we have a new confirmed case in my building at work, and it is someone I fairly regularly have contact with. Two more people got sent home with symptoms and told to get tested.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on May 22, 2020, 11:47:23 PM
PA governor says the Philly area could move from "red" to "yellow" lock down on June 5th, guess he changed his mind on counties needing to have less than 50 new cases a week for 2 weeks.  Hope it happens, on June 5th it will be 10 weeks with the stay at home order in place.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: wihogfan on May 23, 2020, 05:24:12 AM
Record high positives in Wisconsin all week. But also record high numbers of tests being given. Numbers going to drop, but only because half of the testing sites have been shut down. In other words, numbers in Wisconsin don't mean much. Show that yhe virus is still active, but not enough testing and testing not being done in a way to determine how many people really have it or have had it.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: Johnny Unusual on May 25, 2020, 03:59:54 PM
Last Friday were moved to Yellow Alert.  Now we can visit close friends and a lot of businesses are reopening.  Even my gym is opening back up.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: stethacantus on May 26, 2020, 10:10:53 AM
WOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOO!

PARTY!

Yes! Memorial Day marks the beginning of outdoor party season in my neighborhood.  That means hundreds of people stuffed into some back yard, the stereo blasting music loud enough to penetrate any room of my house beyond 3am in the morning even though the party is a block away, cars double parked everywhere,  drunken revelers vomiting and urinating on every lawn and doorstep in the neighborhood,  and the seemingly mandatory illegal fireworks show that usually ends with one of the guests stealing and lighting a mortar shell without putting it in the tube and showering the other screaming guests with balls of colorful fire.

Party every weekend night until July 4th, then every night until Labor Day! Sometimes two or three loud parties going on at the same time! Call the police to complain about the noise and they don't show up! If they do, the music is turned down for a grand total of one minute, then cranked up twice as loud once the police have left! The party goes on and on till the break of dawn!

That us until this year. Over the weekend I  heard the familiar sound of neighborhood parties starting up. At least four near my block, and about five distant ones. The sudden blast of music over loudspeakers.  Only this time the police showed up within a few minutes and shut things down. And not just a single patrol car knocking on the front door. On at least two of the nighttime parties I saw a shitload of flashing lights coming from the vicinity. At least something positive has come out of this pandemic.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: RVR II on May 26, 2020, 11:22:05 AM
Our local Habitat for Humanity Restore reopened for the first time this year.
They gave each person a fly swatter to keep count of how many people were inside.. The max number of fly swatters was 54 so if they ran out you couldn't enter until someone left.
Was anyone keeping 6 feet apart from each other? Of course not!  :grr:
Employees were wearing masks but only a few customers were wearing masks.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: eegah on May 26, 2020, 12:11:34 PM
I miss going to our Restore...and Goodwill and Savers. They have recently reopened these here in NH, but I'm not venturing out yet because of all of the crazy non-mask-wearing non-social-distancing folks out there. If they had any sense, they'd realize that life could go back semi-close to normal if everyone took those simple steps.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: goflyblind on May 28, 2020, 11:09:23 AM
fyi: in case anyone you know isn't currently wearing a mask in public, and you think they might actually be persuaded by reading some science, this is a good one: https://science.sciencemag.org/content/early/2020/05/27/science.abc6197

(https://i.imgur.com/lCOHBHA.jpg)

and the six feet rule? from a 1930s experiment. more likely, we should keep about 20ft apart.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: wihogfan on May 28, 2020, 11:11:26 AM
More convinced than ever that testing numbers and the way tests are being given is total BS. At least in our area of Wisconsin- I guess other states or even other areas of Wisconsin may be doing better. Also not basing this on just our experience, but similar and worse experiences I’ve heard from others.
Wife came down with a sore throat and cough last week (no fever). Normally she wouldn’t have thought much of it, but she called her doctor who called her in for a strep test. Test negative for strep throat so she was sent to the temporary COVID-19 testing center. Temporary testing center has since shut down- was only open 2 weeks- and now the only place to get tested in this area is once again at one location- one of the hospitals- and you have to be referred by your doctor or be African American or Latino to get tested. Wife told results would take 3 to 5 days and was told that she needed to quarantine at home pending the results. Not said or instructed by anyone, but wife quarantining equaled me quarantining.
So day 5 rolls around. Haven’t heard from anyone about test results. Wife calls early afternoon and after a half hour on the phone is told she’s not in their database and therefore was never tested. She still wasn’t feeling well and called her doctor to try and get another test. Told she couldn’t get another test because she still has results pending from her first test. Called back to number given by testing center. Another half hour and they find her in the system, but no results.
Day 6- wife finally feeling better, but repeat more or less of day 5 regarding test results- sorry not in system, are you sure you were tested- oh wait there you are- sorry no results- maybe by the end of the day.
Day 7- hadn’t planned on quarantining so strictly due to grocery stores here still limiting a lot of items (wrote about it before- while I understand the purpose of the restrictions- to prevent hoarding- all the restrictions have really accomplished on my end is forcing me to have to go to the store twice a week instead of once). Had been doing pretty well all things considered, but out of bread, fresh fruit and vegetables, etc., down to last 2 rolls of toilet paper and remaining food mostly canned and frozen. Wife finally contacted with results- had to confirm her social and date of birth- then told “Mr. Johnson your results are negative”. My wife is not a mister and our last name isn’t Johnson. She explains she’s not a mister or named Johnson, they ask her to repeat her social and date of birth and then tell her that yes, per her social and date of birth she is Mr. Johnson. She fires off an angry email to the State Department of Health Services. Within 10 minutes of sending it, someone from the DHS calls her. They assure her they’ll look into it. They call back about an hour later and tell they can confirm that her results are negative. She asks for that in writing. Gets told they don’t have the means to provide negative results in writing at this time.
The day we started our strict quarantine I called my doctor, explained my wife’s symptoms, explained she had test results pending, and asked if I should get tested. I had no symptoms myself so I couldn’t get tested. I asked what if my wife tests positive, should I get tested then? Nope, not without symptoms. I asked about an antibody test. Told those haven’t really become available in Wisconsin yet.
So good news, my wife doesn’t have COVID-19 (or at least she didn’t on the day she was tested, assuming the test was accurate and the results given were actually her results). But our area is still only testing people with symptoms (and African Americans and Latinos) and no antibody tests. And testing is also about as inconvenient as it could be thus limiting even some people who should get tested from being tested.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: eegah on May 28, 2020, 11:41:16 AM
fyi: in case anyone you know isn't currently wearing a mask in public, and you think they might actually be persuaded by reading some science, this is a good one: https://science.sciencemag.org/content/early/2020/05/27/science.abc6197

(https://i.imgur.com/lCOHBHA.jpg)

and the six feet rule? from a 1930s experiment. more likely, we should keep about 20ft apart.

Florida Atlantic University did some cough simulations and found the droplets can travel about 12 ft (includes video):
https://www.fau.edu/newsdesk/articles/mechanical-cough-coronavirus.php


Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on May 30, 2020, 02:20:08 AM
Saw this and thought it was great:

(https://i.imgur.com/alfdhZbh.jpg)
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: Johnny Unusual on June 03, 2020, 05:15:27 PM
OK, so my province has been doing very well.  We've really been blessed in that all of our cases resolved without a fatality and it was weeks without a new case.  Our provinces condition was moved to yellow and I could visit with my friend regularly again.  Everything is not normal yet but we are hopefully close.

Things have changed.  A doctor visited another province and failed to self-isolate afterwards.  Then he was in contact with other people.  150 other people.  Some of them have gotten corona.  One is over 90 years old.  It really sucks that a doctor's carelessness risked lives.  The rest of the province is still in Yellow Alert but "Zone 5" has been pushed back to orange.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/health-care-worker-border-campbellton-covid-19-cases-1.5588168

This is an older article but two of the people he infected were over 90.  Thankfully they are in stable condition now.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on June 03, 2020, 06:22:03 PM
Still lots of price gouging on Amazon happening.  Went looking for powdered milk for baking and there is some coming back in stock, got 2lb for $15 and that is about normal price.  But I saw several 9oz cans of carnation powdered milk for $10 each, or about 5X normal price, guess they are slipping by because it's a case of 6 for $60 so people don't do the math and see it's way over priced.

2lb is way more than I usually buy, so shouldn't need any more for about 6 months...

Flour is also coming back in stock slowly, can only get bleached on the shelves locally, but Amazon Pantry has the King Arthur Bread Flour I normally buy at Target in stock for about the same price now.  First time trying Amazon Pantry, ordered a bunch of stuff, we'll see what condition it arrives in, was not expecting it shipped by UPS, so a box with cans of food mixed with a 5lb bag of flour and a few bags of pretzels is probably going to be a mess when it gets here, but we'll see.
Title: Re: The COVID-19 Pandemic: What's happening in your part of the world?
Post by: Pak-Man on June 03, 2020, 06:31:56 PM
New Mexico reacted early and things are starting to open again. This week we got hair stylists back, and I haven't had a haircut since January, so I pounced and got myself an appointment. Feel like a million bucks, now.