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Title: Folding COVID Proteins
Post by: Variety of Cells on March 18, 2020, 12:44:08 PM
Saw some people post this and it got my attention:

https://www.gamesradar.com/nvidias-calling-on-gaming-pc-owners-to-put-their-systems-to-work-fighting-covid-19/

I have a gaming PC so I installed the program, and now my GPU and CPU are folding proteins, which will hopefully help in the effort to find a vaccine.  Or something like that.  It's better than the nothing I was doing before hand other than staying home.

You can make teams and you get more points the more you fold, so I figured hell, why not make a Rifftrax team?  I named us The Riffers to be a little more generic in case others want to join.  Just go here to download the program https://foldingathome.org/start-folding/ then create a user name, and type in 244058 for the team number.  If you want to put your computing power specifically toward COVID, then leave it as 'any disease' under 'I support research fighting...'.
Title: Re: Folding COVID Proteins
Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on March 22, 2020, 02:06:26 PM
Downloaded the client but it seems their servers are overloaded.  They have something like 100X the number of clients to deal with than they did one week ago.

Watching Linux Tech Tips and they are going to try and build a server to help out, as are others, so the project should have extra capacity in the next week or so.
Title: Re: Folding COVID Proteins
Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on March 23, 2020, 08:34:59 AM
Today I finally got a work unit for my CPU, still nothing available for my GPU.

Since the win10 app doesn't seem to detect idle very well, I used the advanced options and set it to use 5 of my cores all the time, that puts the CPU at about 100 watts and leaves plenty of overhead for normal work and games, I'll just have to disable it manually when playing games like Shadow Of The Tomb Raider.
Title: Re: Folding COVID Proteins
Post by: Variety of Cells on March 23, 2020, 06:05:56 PM
Did you join The Riffers?  It doesn't say you did, but I don't exactly trust the website.
Title: Re: Folding COVID Proteins
Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on March 23, 2020, 06:36:38 PM
I did, it says 1000 points has gone to The Riffers on my client, but I can't even find myself on the website, and the log shows the work unit I did today was sent in but I got no points for it, so I think their entire system is overwhelmed.
Title: Re: Folding COVID Proteins
Post by: Variety of Cells on March 25, 2020, 07:27:54 AM
Website seems to be running a bit better now.  I can see you on the team.  And hey, we're doing a lot better than I thought.  Currently our team is ranked 12368 of 242519.  Go us!
Title: Re: Folding COVID Proteins
Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on March 25, 2020, 07:48:20 AM
Last 2 days the website has been better, still a shortage of work units, not getting any today so far.
Title: Re: Folding COVID Proteins
Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on March 25, 2020, 09:15:47 PM
Was wondering why the viewer wasn't working, seems it's a windows issue, if you download the viewer from an older version it works and you can see the protein your computer is currently working on.

Instructions here:
https://gist.github.com/alfanhui/fd69de8354047609fad5ebbef829eb94
Title: Re: Folding COVID Proteins
Post by: Variety of Cells on March 27, 2020, 05:45:25 PM
Was wondering why the viewer wasn't working, seems it's a windows issue, if you download the viewer from an older version it works and you can see the protein your computer is currently working on.

Instructions here:
https://gist.github.com/alfanhui/fd69de8354047609fad5ebbef829eb94

Hey nice!  Got it to work.  Also, our team standing has moved up quite a bit.  We're now at 7972 of 244550, from 12368.  Obviously it's not a competition, but the gamefication of something for a good cause doesn't hurt.   
Title: Re: Folding COVID Proteins
Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on March 28, 2020, 09:38:49 AM
I've got a laptop sitting in the basement that I only use when working on my 3D printer, so thought I'd see what that could do.

Looks like about 10 hours per work unit, or about 10 times slower than my desktop PC.  ;D

I've also got 2 servers at work that are idle 99% of the time, but I've got Slackware Linux installed on them and can't find a client that would work with that distribution.
Title: Re: Folding COVID Proteins
Post by: stansimpson on March 28, 2020, 09:49:42 AM
Looks like I've joined. Updated my name to stansimpson. I'm showing 0.0% folding. The last thing listed in my log is:

Quote
No WUs available for this configuration
16:55:58:ERROR:WU00:FS00:Exception: Could not get an assignment

How am I supposed to start exactly?
Title: Re: Folding COVID Proteins
Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on March 28, 2020, 10:02:42 AM
It may take a while to get a work unit, their servers are overloaded with requests. 

If you want more control over how it impacts performance on your PC you can right click on the folding icon in the system tray and choose "advanced control".  You also get a little more info about what the client is doing with that interface vs. the web interface.
Title: Re: Folding COVID Proteins
Post by: Variety of Cells on March 28, 2020, 11:11:34 AM
Looks like I've joined. Updated my name to stansimpson. I'm showing 0.0% folding. The last thing listed in my log is:

Quote
No WUs available for this configuration
16:55:58:ERROR:WU00:FS00:Exception: Could not get an assignment

How am I supposed to start exactly?

Welcome aboard!  Did you join the team?  The number is 244058. 
Title: Re: Folding COVID Proteins
Post by: stansimpson on March 28, 2020, 11:14:06 AM
Looks like I've joined. Updated my name to stansimpson. I'm showing 0.0% folding. The last thing listed in my log is:

Quote
No WUs available for this configuration
16:55:58:ERROR:WU00:FS00:Exception: Could not get an assignment

How am I supposed to start exactly?

Welcome aboard!  Did you join the team?  The number is 244058. 
Yep! Still unable to find any servers yet (assuming I'm doing everything else right).
Title: Re: Folding COVID Proteins
Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on March 28, 2020, 12:29:23 PM
Looks like I've joined. Updated my name to stansimpson. I'm showing 0.0% folding. The last thing listed in my log is:

Quote
No WUs available for this configuration
16:55:58:ERROR:WU00:FS00:Exception: Could not get an assignment

How am I supposed to start exactly?

Welcome aboard!  Did you join the team?  The number is 244058. 
Yep! Still unable to find any servers yet (assuming I'm doing everything else right).

My PC is also unable to get any new work units right now, that's been normal for the afternoon, in the late evening people must start shutting down and units start to become available again.
Title: Re: Folding COVID Proteins
Post by: stansimpson on March 29, 2020, 09:15:54 AM
Forgot about this and came back to it seeing 22% completed. Now up to 26%. I don't know what that means, but I'm happy it's working now for me.

The team is currently ranked 7,746. Not sure if that's good or whatever, but I do know one thing:
(https://i.imgur.com/cMfkFGP.gif)
Title: Re: Folding COVID Proteins
Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on March 29, 2020, 09:50:37 AM
Once a work unit is completed and sent in your stats will update.

Or not...  Looks like the donor and team stats haven't been updated since Friday, hopefully the million or so points I've generated in the last 2 days will show up eventually when the servers catch up.
Title: Re: Folding COVID Proteins
Post by: Variety of Cells on March 29, 2020, 10:47:28 AM
Once a work unit is completed and sent in your stats will update.

Or not...  Looks like the donor and team stats haven't been updated since Friday, hopefully the million or so points I've generated in the last 2 days will show up eventually when the servers catch up.

Yeah hasn’t updated for me either, as I’ve also been putting some points in, and I don’t see Stan on the list yet. I’m sure the website is just really slow.
Title: Re: Folding COVID Proteins
Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on March 30, 2020, 05:37:55 PM
Looks like they got the stats servers back online, our little team just cracked the top 2.5%.

I'm probably going to drop mine down to medium power, not sure I want my fans running full speed all the time they way they are now.  My GPU generates loads of points since it can do a work unit in just over an hour, but my office is now the warmest room in the house...
Title: Re: Folding COVID Proteins
Post by: Variety of Cells on March 30, 2020, 09:35:39 PM
Looks like they got the stats servers back online, our little team just cracked the top 2.5%.

I'm probably going to drop mine down to medium power, not sure I want my fans running full speed all the time they way they are now.  My GPU generates loads of points since it can do a work unit in just over an hour, but my office is now the warmest room in the house...

Yeah, my cat is loovvvving sitting on my desk, as my computer is just belching out heat when I run it.    I also see you've surpassed me in points.  Congrats.  And Stansimpson is now on the chart.  Just one work unit, but you have to start somewhere. 

I'll be happy when we crack the top 5000 teams.  And I think we have a chance at cracking the top 4000.  Anythings higher than that is going to be difficult I feel.  Getting in the top 1000 would be amazing, but I don't think it's in the cards. 
Title: Re: Folding COVID Proteins
Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on March 31, 2020, 08:21:19 AM
Setting the client to medium doesn't seem to affect GPU usage at all, so I've set up some profiles in EVGA Precision that have different power limits.  Right now my CPU is folding at about 100 watts, and the GPU is close to 200.  I can drop the GPU to 100 with a profile and all my fans drop to about half speed.
Title: Re: Folding COVID Proteins
Post by: stansimpson on March 31, 2020, 09:11:37 AM
I'll go ahead and say don't expect too much from me. Literally could not have come at a worse time. We have one computer in the whole house (excluding my work-issued Chromebook) and just last week has been shutting down for temperature reasons. I'm looking into an app for stats (I would like a free one if I can find a good one). But, overall, yeah, I gotta be sure I don't let it run too much. I'll keep chipping away here and there whenever I can though.
Title: Re: Folding COVID Proteins
Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on March 31, 2020, 11:00:47 AM
I'll go ahead and say don't expect too much from me. Literally could not have come at a worse time. We have one computer in the whole house (excluding my work-issued Chromebook) and just last week has been shutting down for temperature reasons. I'm looking into an app for stats (I would like a free one if I can find a good one). But, overall, yeah, I gotta be sure I don't let it run too much. I'll keep chipping away here and there whenever I can though.

For monitoring temperatures, fan speeds, voltages, and power levels I use the free version of HWmonitor.  It's a nice stand alone program that you run whenever you want to monitor stuff and it goes away when you close it.

If you want a temperature display in the system tray a free one I use is Core Temp, you can configure it lots of ways, but I have it start with the OS, minimize to the tray automatically, and display the temp of the hottest core.  Hottest core does mean the number is constantly changing but it's a good indication if any part of the CPU is getting too hot.
Title: Re: Folding COVID Proteins
Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on March 31, 2020, 11:05:28 AM
Oh, and if the PC is shutting down due to heat get in there and blow out the dust from all the fans and heat sinks.  It should be done a couple times a year, more often if you have pets.  I had a guy at work bring me a PC that was shutting down, at first I was confused that the CPU fan was sitting on a solid block of aluminum, then I realized it was dust packed into the heat sink so tight that the fan blades were smoothing it into what looked like a solid metal block.
Title: Re: Folding COVID Proteins
Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on March 31, 2020, 11:58:28 AM
So power on the GPU is not directly proportional to how much work it can do, setting the power limit to 50% saves about 90 watts and only increases the time to complete a work unit by about 15 to 20 minutes, or about 1/3 more time.
Title: Re: Folding COVID Proteins
Post by: Variety of Cells on March 31, 2020, 12:48:21 PM
I'll go ahead and say don't expect too much from me. Literally could not have come at a worse time. We have one computer in the whole house (excluding my work-issued Chromebook) and just last week has been shutting down for temperature reasons. I'm looking into an app for stats (I would like a free one if I can find a good one). But, overall, yeah, I gotta be sure I don't let it run too much. I'll keep chipping away here and there whenever I can though.

For monitoring temperatures, fan speeds, voltages, and power levels I use the free version of HWmonitor.  It's a nice stand alone program that you run whenever you want to monitor stuff and it goes away when you close it.

If you want a temperature display in the system tray a free one I use is Core Temp, you can configure it lots of ways, but I have it start with the OS, minimize to the tray automatically, and display the temp of the hottest core.  Hottest core does mean the number is constantly changing but it's a good indication if any part of the CPU is getting too hot.

I like MSI Afterburner for monitoring.   Monitors temps of both CPU and GPUs, usages, voltages, and a bunch of other things (like frame rate / frame time).  But it also displays it on a nice graph over time.  It's also what I use to overclock my GPU and set my fan speeds.  But you don't have to turn that on (in fact it's locked to begin with), and can easily just be used for monitoring. 
Title: Re: Folding COVID Proteins
Post by: Variety of Cells on March 31, 2020, 06:38:39 PM
Interesting.  Haven't been getting any work units all day or all last night.  Restarted my computer, and I got a CPU work unit right way. 
Title: Re: Folding COVID Proteins
Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on March 31, 2020, 06:45:04 PM
Interesting.  Haven't been getting any work units all day or all last night.  Restarted my computer, and I got a CPU work unit right way.

I think I got 2 this morning, then nothing until maybe 6pm.  The extra servers that have come online haven't really helped all that much.  Seems there are always a bunch of servers not working.

Link to the server stats:

https://apps.foldingathome.org/serverstats

Title: Re: Folding COVID Proteins
Post by: stansimpson on April 01, 2020, 06:47:18 AM
I hadn't received any servers all day yesterday. Last night, I just closed out, reopened, and got one right away. :\
Title: Re: Folding COVID Proteins
Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on April 04, 2020, 12:17:45 AM
Just to see what it would do I stuck my "old" 1070 GPU in my PC, first time the power supply fan has ever turned on...

Looks like it will take the 1070 about an hour longer per work unit vs. the 2070 super.

Not sure how long I'll leave it like this, maybe just a few days.

I did a blender test since that's the only other program I know of that can use all your CPUs and GPUs at the same time, a render that normally takes about 5 3/4 minutes took 4 1/3 minutes.
Title: Re: Folding COVID Proteins
Post by: Variety of Cells on April 04, 2020, 09:56:31 AM
Our rank has also moved up to 4,420 of 247903.  Very happy with that.  Got team!
Title: Re: Folding COVID Proteins
Post by: Iron Curtain on April 06, 2020, 10:06:34 AM
I've joined, and as of this typing, I earned 42,842 points!
Title: Re: Folding COVID Proteins
Post by: CJones on April 07, 2020, 08:07:54 PM
I've joined, but https://client.foldingathome.org/ (https://client.foldingathome.org/) always times out when I try to check it. The control panel says I'm working on PRCG 13851, 23% with 2h54m to go. Presumably that means it's doing something. Something's eating up a lot of CPU% anyway.
Title: Re: Folding COVID Proteins
Post by: Variety of Cells on April 08, 2020, 06:14:36 PM
I've joined, but https://client.foldingathome.org/ (https://client.foldingathome.org/) always times out when I try to check it. The control panel says I'm working on PRCG 13851, 23% with 2h54m to go. Presumably that means it's doing something. Something's eating up a lot of CPU% anyway.

Hey, now you show up on the stats page.  Glad to have you aboard.  Seems to be loading fine for me now. 

And our rank has moved up another 1000 since I last mentioned it, to 3396.  This is primarily because it seems Marty is running his machine's second GPU 24/7.  It's still going to take some time, and I'm sure it'll get harder and harder as we approach it, but it'd be so cool if we could break the top 1000.  Top 100 is definitely out of the question, as that's mainly computer enthusiast sites with a ton of users.  I wish I could find out what the current score for the 1000 place team is, but I can only seem to look at the top 100.
Title: Re: Folding COVID Proteins
Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on April 08, 2020, 06:40:07 PM
Yeah, that 2nd GPU basically doubled my output.   I am shutting down most nights, did leave it on a couple nights ago.

You can get a giant text file (bz2 compressed) of the daily team rankings on the stats page.

1000 is now at 106379419
2000 is now at 34500672
3000 is now at 18372351

Breaking into the top 3000 might happen, not sure 2000 will happen, we would need some more heavy hitters to break the top 1000.
Title: Re: Folding COVID Proteins
Post by: Iron Curtain on April 09, 2020, 05:37:08 PM
And our rank has moved up another 1000 since I last mentioned it, to 3396.  This is primarily because it seems Marty is running his machine's second GPU 24/7.

My machine's running 24/7 as well. I think that's also a reason our ranks have risen.
Title: Re: Folding COVID Proteins
Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on April 09, 2020, 06:37:31 PM
My power has been out since 1pm, and now they say it won't be back until tomorrow at noon.  So no points from me for a while...
Title: Re: Folding COVID Proteins
Post by: stansimpson on April 10, 2020, 12:56:49 PM
I messed up and never got around to regulating my computer's temperature, and now our one and only computer is dead (well, I mean, I'm using my work-from-home weak little Chromebook right now). I got it to restart before by holding 3 buttons and whatever and figured if it happened again, that's all I would need to do again. Nope. Seems pretty much kaput now.

Gotta order a new computer now, so I won't be able to help out any time soon.
Title: Re: Folding COVID Proteins
Post by: CJones on April 11, 2020, 08:11:09 PM
I messed up and never got around to regulating my computer's temperature, and now our one and only computer is dead (well, I mean, I'm using my work-from-home weak little Chromebook right now). I got it to restart before by holding 3 buttons and whatever and figured if it happened again, that's all I would need to do again. Nope. Seems pretty much kaput now.

Gotta order a new computer now, so I won't be able to help out any time soon.

Ouch. Yeah, the last time I tried leaving it running overnight, I found it had shut down at some point. I assume it had overheated, so I probably won't be doing that again.

The stats page is working for me now, so that's something. Don't know why it wasn't before.
Title: Re: Folding COVID Proteins
Post by: Iron Curtain on April 14, 2020, 01:55:04 PM
I messed up and never got around to regulating my computer's temperature, and now our one and only computer is dead (well, I mean, I'm using my work-from-home weak little Chromebook right now). I got it to restart before by holding 3 buttons and whatever and figured if it happened again, that's all I would need to do again. Nope. Seems pretty much kaput now.

Gotta order a new computer now, so I won't be able to help out any time soon.

Ouch. Yeah, the last time I tried leaving it running overnight, I found it had shut down at some point. I assume it had overheated, so I probably won't be doing that again.

The stats page is working for me now, so that's something. Don't know why it wasn't before.

Yow! That sucks for both of you. Fortunately, my computer is a grinding powerhouse, so I can carry both of your weight.
Title: Re: Folding COVID Proteins
Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on April 14, 2020, 02:12:36 PM
They should really warn people that even with the default setup folding runs your CPU hard, so if you don't have adequate cooling it can fry it.  Especially if you have an older CPU that doesn't automatically throttle down when it gets hot.

Guess I'll leave my old 1070 installed, I was worried that the card would starve the 3 fans on the 2070 when I am gaming but it doesn't seem to be a problem.

Looks like we will get into the top 3000 soon, if we can crack 2500 we would be in the top 1%, that would be cool.

Title: Re: Folding COVID Proteins
Post by: Iron Curtain on April 17, 2020, 05:37:19 PM
Great news!!! The latest build of Folding@Home lets you target COVID-19 specifically instead of "Any Disease"! https://foldingathome.org/start-folding/
Title: Re: Folding COVID Proteins
Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on April 26, 2020, 11:40:14 AM
We are basically into the top 1% of teams (1.0024%).

Once my area gets back to going to work every day I won't be leaving my PC on as much so we may drop, but it doesn't look like that is going to happen for at least another month.  Looks like according to the plan my area is going to have to be down to something like 50 new cases in 2 weeks in order to go to the first phase of reopening.
Title: Re: Folding COVID Proteins
Post by: Variety of Cells on April 26, 2020, 09:22:53 PM
We are basically into the top 1% of teams (1.0024%).

Once my area gets back to going to work every day I won't be leaving my PC on as much so we may drop, but it doesn't look like that is going to happen for at least another month.  Looks like according to the plan my area is going to have to be down to something like 50 new cases in 2 weeks in order to go to the first phase of reopening.

Sweet!  Hurray! 

Yeah, I’ve scaled down my folding time. I’ve had a few black screen freezes lately, and that concerns me, as this build hasn’t done that. The freezes were not while I was folding, but after some long periods of folding. Can’t say for sure if folding is the problem, but the black screens point towards a GPU issue I believe. Perhaps I should scale back and not go at max speed when folding.

While I am starting to think about a new GPU, I’m not quite ready to make that purchase.
Title: Re: Folding COVID Proteins
Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on April 27, 2020, 07:08:58 AM
We are basically into the top 1% of teams (1.0024%).

Once my area gets back to going to work every day I won't be leaving my PC on as much so we may drop, but it doesn't look like that is going to happen for at least another month.  Looks like according to the plan my area is going to have to be down to something like 50 new cases in 2 weeks in order to go to the first phase of reopening.

Sweet!  Hurray! 

Yeah, I’ve scaled down my folding time. I’ve had a few black screen freezes lately, and that concerns me, as this build hasn’t done that. The freezes were not while I was folding, but after some long periods of folding. Can’t say for sure if folding is the problem, but the black screens point towards a GPU issue I believe. Perhaps I should scale back and not go at max speed when folding.

While I am starting to think about a new GPU, I’m not quite ready to make that purchase.

The profile I have for folding puts the power level of my 2070 to minimum and the 1070 to 80%, this keeps the 2070 below 60°C and the 1070 around 70°C.  I may start turning off the CPU folding since the house is getting warmer on the 2nd floor and the CPU temp is starting to get into the 70s even with only 4 cores folding, those AVX routines really hammer a CPU.
Title: Re: Folding COVID Proteins
Post by: Variety of Cells on April 27, 2020, 10:23:05 AM
We are basically into the top 1% of teams (1.0024%).

Once my area gets back to going to work every day I won't be leaving my PC on as much so we may drop, but it doesn't look like that is going to happen for at least another month.  Looks like according to the plan my area is going to have to be down to something like 50 new cases in 2 weeks in order to go to the first phase of reopening.

You tweak all those settings in the advanced covid folding program?

Sweet!  Hurray! 

Yeah, I’ve scaled down my folding time. I’ve had a few black screen freezes lately, and that concerns me, as this build hasn’t done that. The freezes were not while I was folding, but after some long periods of folding. Can’t say for sure if folding is the problem, but the black screens point towards a GPU issue I believe. Perhaps I should scale back and not go at max speed when folding.

While I am starting to think about a new GPU, I’m not quite ready to make that purchase.

The profile I have for folding puts the power level of my 2070 to minimum and the 1070 to 80%, this keeps the 2070 below 60°C and the 1070 around 70°C.  I may start turning off the CPU folding since the house is getting warmer on the 2nd floor and the CPU temp is starting to get into the 70s even with only 4 cores folding, those AVX routines really hammer a CPU.
Title: Re: Folding COVID Proteins
Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on April 27, 2020, 11:34:36 AM
We are basically into the top 1% of teams (1.0024%).

Once my area gets back to going to work every day I won't be leaving my PC on as much so we may drop, but it doesn't look like that is going to happen for at least another month.  Looks like according to the plan my area is going to have to be down to something like 50 new cases in 2 weeks in order to go to the first phase of reopening.

You tweak all those settings in the advanced covid folding program?

Sweet!  Hurray! 

Yeah, I’ve scaled down my folding time. I’ve had a few black screen freezes lately, and that concerns me, as this build hasn’t done that. The freezes were not while I was folding, but after some long periods of folding. Can’t say for sure if folding is the problem, but the black screens point towards a GPU issue I believe. Perhaps I should scale back and not go at max speed when folding.

While I am starting to think about a new GPU, I’m not quite ready to make that purchase.

The profile I have for folding puts the power level of my 2070 to minimum and the 1070 to 80%, this keeps the 2070 below 60°C and the 1070 around 70°C.  I may start turning off the CPU folding since the house is getting warmer on the 2nd floor and the CPU temp is starting to get into the 70s even with only 4 cores folding, those AVX routines really hammer a CPU.

You can set the number of CPU cores in the advanced control program, but for the GPU power you have to use an overclocking program, I use EVGA Precision X1 since both the cards are EVGA and it controls the RGB on my 2070.  I have 2 profiles saved now, one for folding and one for gaming.  The folding one is like I described above, the gaming one pushes my 2070 to nearly max and leaves the 1070 the same for folding.  Would be nice if there was a way to automate the switchover, to play a game I have to pause folding on the 2070, load the profile for the GPU in the X1 program, then to go back to folding I load the X1 profile and un-pause folding on the 2070.  It's just a few clicks but I have to remember to do them...

I just turned off CPU folding, not only is my CPU getting up into the 70s but at that temperature the fans are running full speed, number of work units will drop but the points per day won't drop much, the work units for CPUs give far fewer points than the ones for GPUs.
Title: Re: Folding COVID Proteins
Post by: Variety of Cells on April 27, 2020, 12:17:21 PM
We are basically into the top 1% of teams (1.0024%).

Once my area gets back to going to work every day I won't be leaving my PC on as much so we may drop, but it doesn't look like that is going to happen for at least another month.  Looks like according to the plan my area is going to have to be down to something like 50 new cases in 2 weeks in order to go to the first phase of reopening.

You tweak all those settings in the advanced covid folding program?

Sweet!  Hurray! 

Yeah, I’ve scaled down my folding time. I’ve had a few black screen freezes lately, and that concerns me, as this build hasn’t done that. The freezes were not while I was folding, but after some long periods of folding. Can’t say for sure if folding is the problem, but the black screens point towards a GPU issue I believe. Perhaps I should scale back and not go at max speed when folding.

While I am starting to think about a new GPU, I’m not quite ready to make that purchase.

The profile I have for folding puts the power level of my 2070 to minimum and the 1070 to 80%, this keeps the 2070 below 60°C and the 1070 around 70°C.  I may start turning off the CPU folding since the house is getting warmer on the 2nd floor and the CPU temp is starting to get into the 70s even with only 4 cores folding, those AVX routines really hammer a CPU.

You can set the number of CPU cores in the advanced control program, but for the GPU power you have to use an overclocking program, I use EVGA Precision X1 since both the cards are EVGA and it controls the RGB on my 2070.  I have 2 profiles saved now, one for folding and one for gaming.  The folding one is like I described above, the gaming one pushes my 2070 to nearly max and leaves the 1070 the same for folding.  Would be nice if there was a way to automate the switchover, to play a game I have to pause folding on the 2070, load the profile for the GPU in the X1 program, then to go back to folding I load the X1 profile and un-pause folding on the 2070.  It's just a few clicks but I have to remember to do them...

I just turned off CPU folding, not only is my CPU getting up into the 70s but at that temperature the fans are running full speed, number of work units will drop but the points per day won't drop much, the work units for CPUs give far fewer points than the ones for GPUs.

Gotcha.  I'll follow suit.  I use MSI afterburner, so I'll have to set up a profile for folding.  I currently have an overclocked one for gaming which I accidentally left on once while folding.  Things got steamy.
Title: Re: Folding COVID Proteins
Post by: Variety of Cells on April 27, 2020, 07:47:55 PM
Would be nice if there was a way to automate the switchover, to play a game I have to pause folding on the 2070, load the profile for the GPU in the X1 program, then to go back to folding I load the X1 profile and un-pause folding on the 2070.  It's just a few clicks but I have to remember to do them...

You got me curious.  I'm really close.  There probably is a way to automatically pause your 2070 when you fire up a game... I think?  But I just figured out how to get telnet to pause and restart the folding.  Now I just need to refresh my memory on how to create a .bat script, assign it to a hotkey, then combine that hotkey with the hotkey I've set for switching my GPU profile onto one of my keyboard's macro keys, and voila, I will have reduced it to one button press.
Title: Re: Folding COVID Proteins
Post by: Variety of Cells on April 28, 2020, 07:06:53 AM
Would be nice if there was a way to automate the switchover, to play a game I have to pause folding on the 2070, load the profile for the GPU in the X1 program, then to go back to folding I load the X1 profile and un-pause folding on the 2070.  It's just a few clicks but I have to remember to do them...

You got me curious.  I'm really close.  There probably is a way to automatically pause your 2070 when you fire up a game... I think?  But I just figured out how to get telnet to pause and restart the folding.  Now I just need to refresh my memory on how to create a .bat script, assign it to a hotkey, then combine that hotkey with the hotkey I've set for switching my GPU profile onto one of my keyboard's macro keys, and voila, I will have reduced it to one button press.

Alright, so that was a bit of a rabbit hole, but I finally got it to do what I want it to do.  Had to download autohotkey to do it, but it works. Here's how I have it set up. 

Ended up having to use a visual basic script to open up cmd and punch in some commands to open up telnet, connect to the FAHControl, and pauses the folding.  Then created another script to start folding.  Then, using autohotkey, I assigned each of those scripts a hotkey.  Then, using my keyboard's macro features, I assigns one macro button to press the hotkey that switches my gpu profile to standard and then press the hotkey that pauses folding, and another macro button to use the hotkey for my folding gpu profile and the hotkey to start folding.  And presto!  One button to turn folding on, one to turn it off.

I can even use it while running a windowed game if I forgot to stop folding before playing.  Otherwise it'll minimize a fullscreen game in order to open up cmd, then I just alt tab back to it. 

I'll happily post the code I had to cobble together if you're interested.  But I'm sure there's a bunch of much cleaner ways to do what I just did, as I'm not a programmer. 
Title: Re: Folding COVID Proteins
Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on April 28, 2020, 07:19:59 AM
Since I have that 2nd graphics card I don't pause folding completely, I leave the 1070 folding, so unless there are advanced controls to pause individual GPUs I'll just keep doing what I've been doing.

I've been in such a weird frame of mind lately that I haven't felt like playing much other than simple stuff like stardew valley, and even then I use mods to basically play that in creative mode and try to build the most awesome setup I can before the first summer.  I've found that new farm layout with the 4 zones is fantastic for that, one corner for animals, one for an orchard, one for farming, and the house corner for fish ponds and crafting.  So I haven't been bothering to pause folding much since the games I've been playing don't need super powerful GPUs.
Title: Re: Folding COVID Proteins
Post by: Variety of Cells on April 28, 2020, 08:03:28 AM
Ah yes, stardew valley, my love.

And yes, through telnet it’s very easy to pause an individual GPU. It’s just pause [xx] instead of pause, where xx is the slot number of the GPU you want to pause.

When I get back from my bike ride I’ll post the Visual Basic code I stole and modified, in case you want to mess around with it.
Title: Re: Folding COVID Proteins
Post by: Variety of Cells on April 29, 2020, 11:31:49 AM
Sorry.  We did a 63 mile ride to get a badge in Strava and it wiped me out. 

So, if you're still curious, the first thing you'll have to do to get this to work is to enable telnet in windows.  It's very simple.  Here's a guide.  https://www.technipages.com/windows-10-enable-telnet

Then, create two files in notepad or whatever, and save them as whateveryouwant.vbs.  Here's the code I used to paste into the files.  This one is to pause all folding.

Code: [Select]
Set cloner = CreateObject("WScript.Shell")

cloner.run"cmd", true

WScript.Sleep 300

cloner.SendKeys"telnet 127.0.0.1 36330"

cloner.SendKeys("{Enter}")

WScript.Sleep 300

cloner.SendKeys"pause"

cloner.SendKeys("{Enter}")

WScript.Sleep 500

cloner.SendKeys"quit"

cloner.SendKeys("{Enter}")

WScript.Sleep 500

cloner.SendKeys"exit"

cloner.SendKeys("{Enter}")

And here's the code for unpausing.

Code: [Select]
Set cloner = CreateObject("WScript.Shell")

cloner.run"cmd", true

WScript.Sleep 300

cloner.SendKeys"telnet 127.0.0.1 36330"

cloner.SendKeys("{Enter}")

WScript.Sleep 300

cloner.SendKeys"unpause"

cloner.SendKeys("{Enter}")

WScript.Sleep 300

cloner.SendKeys"quit"

cloner.SendKeys("{Enter}")

WScript.Sleep 300

cloner.SendKeys"exit"

cloner.SendKeys("{Enter}")

Like I mentioned before, in your cause you'd just change one line in each script to something like this:

Code: [Select]
cloner.SendKeys"pause 1"
That's an educated guess as to the ID of your main GPU. 

Running the file should work just fine.  Then I used autohotkey to make some hotkeys that run those scripts.  If you want I can help you with that too, but I already feel like I'm explaining addition to a mathematician, as I take it you know quite a bit more about computers and coding than I do.

EDIT: Previous version had wrong syntax for pausing individual slots.
Title: Re: Folding COVID Proteins
Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on April 29, 2020, 06:54:12 PM
I'm probably not going to set up hotkeys but I was curious what you get when you telnet into the client.

Since I use PuTTy all the time to connect to servers at work I thought I'd use that to telnet into the FAH client, but it kept disconnecting.  So turned on Windows telnet and was able to connect, so it wasn't a firewall or client problem.  Took a while to find the proper combination of settings in PuTTy to get that to stay connected.  I wanted to use PuTTy because you can set that up to do CR/LF and see what is going on.  The FAH client doesn't do carriage returns so it's a mess in the telnet window, but in PuTTy with CR/LF turned on you can get a nice list of all the commands available when you type help.

For some reason FAH picks the GPUs in reverse order, in windows my 2070 is GPU 0 and the 1070 is GPU 1, but in FAH the 1070 is slot 1 and the 2070 is slot 2


Title: Re: Folding COVID Proteins
Post by: Variety of Cells on April 29, 2020, 07:55:26 PM
I'm probably not going to set up hotkeys but I was curious what you get when you telnet into the client.

Since I use PuTTy all the time to connect to servers at work I thought I'd use that to telnet into the FAH client, but it kept disconnecting.  So turned on Windows telnet and was able to connect, so it wasn't a firewall or client problem.  Took a while to find the proper combination of settings in PuTTy to get that to stay connected.  I wanted to use PuTTy because you can set that up to do CR/LF and see what is going on.  The FAH client doesn't do carriage returns so it's a mess in the telnet window, but in PuTTy with CR/LF turned on you can get a nice list of all the commands available when you type help.

For some reason FAH picks the GPUs in reverse order, in windows my 2070 is GPU 0 and the 1070 is GPU 1, but in FAH the 1070 is slot 1 and the 2070 is slot 2

Yeahhhh.  Trying to decipher the 'help' in cmd was a mess. 
Title: Re: Folding COVID Proteins
Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on May 23, 2020, 09:34:51 AM
Looks like the team has plataued around 2350 or so.

I'm taking my 2070 off of folding, getting too warm in the room.  Even with the power on the 2070 set to minimum and the 1070 set to 80% the combination of them is putting several hundred watts of heat into the room.  So now I'm down to just the 1070 doing folding, plus the 2 Linux servers at work but those have wimpy CPUs so don't contribute much.
Title: Re: Folding COVID Proteins
Post by: Variety of Cells on May 23, 2020, 07:48:07 PM
Not a bad achievement.  But as you said, it's getting warmer, and I can't leave it folding all night.  And there are some days I don't turn it on.  I don't like to have it on if I'm not here.