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Title: The Eragon-ous Zone (Thoughts)
Post by: Pak-Man on May 09, 2007, 07:07:56 PM
I've been sitting on that pun all week! :^)
Title: Re: The Eragon-ous Zone (Thoughts)
Post by: FBX on May 09, 2007, 09:48:27 PM
yay my movie suggestion came true!
Title: Re: The Eragon-ous Zone (Thoughts)
Post by: Qrusher14242 on May 10, 2007, 02:26:39 AM
great so far, saw the first 45 mins. Loved the RJD reference heh
Title: Re: The Eragon-ous Zone (Thoughts)
Post by: dignan on May 10, 2007, 06:06:44 AM
TROGDOR! 

Hehehe.
Title: Re: The Eragon-ous Zone (Thoughts)
Post by: Indomitus on May 10, 2007, 07:02:51 AM
I've been sitting on that pun all week! :^)
And now it's hatched and chosen you and you are now a Pun-Rider!


TROGDOR! 
Yeah, wasn't expecting a Homestarrunner reference.  Nice shot on that one.

I for one thought Mr Irons' performance was fairly subdued.  Well, okay, maybe not.  At all.  But he didn't chew nearly as much scenery in this whole movie as he did in his first scene of D&D alone.  (I'd still love it if that one were on the slate for a future 'Trax.  But not right now.  We have our RDA of dragons covered for a while.)
Title: Re: The Eragon-ous Zone (Thoughts)
Post by: Literate Dead on May 10, 2007, 07:29:23 PM
What the hell was this movie?! A mess of random scenes of people sitting around waiting for the new pages of the script to come in, followed by scenes of people riding horses, followed by random plot contrivances (so, learning magic means randomly making up words and claiming that they mean something?), and scenes which just confuse me (that last ending... um... quick shot of... something happening which is supposed to set up a sequel... but... I had to have a friend tell me what the hell happened  :angry: ). So, all in all, quite open for rifftasticness... WIth a half-naked sweaty girl making orgasmic faces for an added bonus!

Unfortunately, all in all this was a rather standard riff. Amusing, but really feels like it could have been better, really. Mike and Kevin rely a little too much on the entire 'oh, no, not a rip-off of Star Ward/Lord of the Rings/The Matrix at all...' gag. It kind of speaks for itself, so it feels less of a joke and more sort of beating the obvious over the head. However, just because it's a standard Riff, doesn't mean it isn't funny. My friends and I still had fun watching this whole mess (though I doubt I'd ever watch the film on its own), and the riffs kept it watchable (save for the horse-riding scenes... gah, how many scenes do we need of these two riding horses around?!). I wish they'd done more with the 'Urkel' gags, or the bizarre blatant sexual undertones of it all (one of the little group I got together spurted root beer out her nose during the point where Irons looks over the dragon in that strangely sexual manner), but like I said, still not a bad track. It just feels like a film which deserved more... It gets definite bonus points for the Strong Bad reference, though... Maybe like a 3.5/5

...Oh, and the 'special surprise' at the end was... interesting. Not entirely sure I wanna' spoil it but... I laughed my ass off throughout the sequence... but not something I'd go back to again  :o
Title: Re: The Eragon-ous Zone (Thoughts)
Post by: Tony Farms AKA Puma Man on May 10, 2007, 08:01:50 PM
I honestly think that Quest of the Delta Knights was a better movie than this.
Title: Re: The Eragon-ous Zone (Thoughts)
Post by: Minnesota on May 10, 2007, 09:37:35 PM
What the hell was this movie?!

 Mike and Kevin rely a little too much on the entire 'oh, no, not a rip-off of Star Ward/Lord of the Rings/The Matrix at all...' gag. It kind of speaks for itself, so it feels less of a joke and more sort of beating the obvious over the head.

Yup this movie was BAD...

As for that 2nd point about 'stating the obvious', those were some of the best riffs. I get that you found the riff to be overall likeable but some of you'all get way too critical about the riffs. Mike and Kevin are comedy at its best!
Title: Re: The Eragon-ous Zone (Thoughts)
Post by: dignan on May 11, 2007, 07:51:54 AM
Having seen the whole movie now, wow.  Eragon is one goofy-ass movie.  I do like how Rachel Weisz seemed to be going for a "Mia Farrow in The Last Unicorn" tone of voice, but other than that, this movie is terrible.  And it made for some fine riffing.

Oh, was there a reason for the lengthy prologue with Eragon and his cousin/brother who never showed up again?  He never showed up again, right? 

Dis, Dis, Dis...what was THAT?  It was like somebody's drunk uncle singing at a wedding.  Only if you sang that way at a wedding, I think people would start rooting for a divorce. 
Title: Re: The Eragon-ous Zone (Thoughts)
Post by: Compound on May 11, 2007, 08:12:53 AM
Oh, was there a reason for the lengthy prologue with Eragon and his cousin/brother who never showed up again?  He never showed up again, right? 

He turns up again later in the series as a fellow dragon rider and as Eragon's wingman in the attack on the Doom Castle.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Title: Re: The Eragon-ous Zone (Thoughts)
Post by: Indomitus on May 11, 2007, 09:41:48 AM
Very interesting spoiler there, Compound, but it may be giving away just a bit too much.
Title: Re: The Eragon-ous Zone (Thoughts)
Post by: LadyKenobi on May 11, 2007, 10:23:00 AM
Hilarious.  One of my favorite team riffs, although I also would have liked to hear them destroy the plagiarizing kid who "wrote" the "book" version as the movie spiraled ever downward.  I'm against the intrustion of DA during the movie, but his appearance at the end credits was priceless.  Excellent effort, gentlemen.
Title: Re: The Eragon-ous Zone (Thoughts)
Post by: Junkyard on May 11, 2007, 10:38:45 AM
My favorite part was when he was when they reffered to the Dragon as a collection of 1's and 0's. It could not have been any closer to what I was thinking at the time without Mike being telepathic.
Title: Re: The Eragon-ous Zone (Thoughts)
Post by: gammer on May 11, 2007, 11:57:16 AM
Brava Dis...Brava   :clap:

I thought the rifftrax was average/solid, but dis's karaoke in the end was brilliant and made my day  :D
Title: Re: The Eragon-ous Zone (Thoughts)
Post by: Just Some Guy on May 11, 2007, 06:03:35 PM
Wow.  This film was awful on a scale that one rarely sees in major Hollywood productions.   The incompetent rip-off of a script (which admittedly the film owes to its source material), the acting that was just weak, the lack of continuity between shot to shot, the effects that look like they were done for a Playstation.    I could dedicate a multipage rant on so many aspects of the film.  Scholars should study this disaster as an example of exactly how to not make a movie. 

I thought the riffing was solid but not spectacular for the movie.
Title: Re: The Eragon-ous Zone (Thoughts)
Post by: DoctorZ on May 12, 2007, 12:41:45 PM
OK.  When I first saw this come out in the theaters I wanted to go see it, but the wife baulked.  I am glad she did and talked me out of going as well.  I just recently saw this unriffed  a month or so ago.  Awful. 

Nice job.  No real belly laughs though.  A solid 5 in one to ten.  I'll definitely want to watch it again.

OK.  The surprise ending..   :clap:   BUT.....DIS.....where was the secret code to get a free rifftrax for sitting trough the whole thing?  Hmmmm?   :speechless:  Come on.  I'm damaged here.  How about a little love for one of your fans? :D
Title: Re: The Eragon-ous Zone (Thoughts)
Post by: starfighter on May 12, 2007, 02:59:09 PM
   I'm guessing Dis was just warming up.  Something tells me that the next live show will feature his version of "MacArthur Park." All seven minutes of it.
Title: Re: The Eragon-ous Zone (Thoughts)
Post by: Tyrant on May 13, 2007, 11:32:09 AM

Sweet mother of heaven, this movie was aweful. To prevent me from getting distracted between the movie itself and the riffs (which happens a lot, unfortunatly), Pak and I decided to just watch the stupid thing on its own before the Rifftrax version. So we had to see it twice. It's going to take days of showering before the smell comes out. Gah.

  Interestingly, Pak and I were riffing it beforehand, and the guys actually made some of the same jokes we did. I guess some scenes begged for it. I'm no expert in directing or screenplay writing or whatever, but this movie could have maybe been a good one and it just wasn't handled very well. I'm not sure in what aspect but it was definatly off. The telepathic thing between the dragon and Eragon was the dumbest part of the whole thing. I'm glad Mike and Kevin tore this film a new one. It needed it. I loved all their jokes and Dis' serenade during the credits had us on the floor.

 It'll be interesting to see if any sequels to this thing come out. They certianly set it up left and right for them on the chance the movie would do well. Which, of course, it didn't.
Title: Re: The Eragon-ous Zone (Thoughts)
Post by: TheUnabeefer on May 13, 2007, 12:45:35 PM
Once Dis hit the chorus, I started crying.... I haven't laughed that hard in a long long time.
Title: Re: The Eragon-ous Zone (Thoughts)
Post by: Just Some Guy on May 13, 2007, 01:06:13 PM
I saw that the DVD had a director's commentary and I couldn't resist listening to it for a bit.

A good commentary gives you insight into why a film is the way it is.  It can give you a deeper insight into the movie and a greater appreciation of it.  The Eragon commentary is not one of those.

I would strongly suspect that Stefen Fangmeier, the director, was watching a different movie from me except for the fact that 75% of the time he told me what was happening on the screen.  He kept saying "This is a nice little scene," when it was a redundant scene that was poorly paced and added nothing.  He apparently didn't realize how predictable the movie was because another common statement was on how a viewer wouldn't realize something blindingly obvious like Jeremy Iron's character being a former dragon-rider.  He thought that having the dragon instantly age from baby to adulthood was a good idea and that the one scene of Eragon sitting around while the CGI baby dragon wanders around set up their bond.

In the end I can't decide if he's clueless or if it was just another case of not being able to say anything bad about a movie.

I did learn one thing about Eragon, though.  Like Mike and Kevin I thought that Eragon was filmed in Canada.  It was instead filmed in the other location for generic wilderness, Eastern Europe.  Slovania and Hungary to be precise.
Title: Re: The Eragon-ous Zone (Thoughts)
Post by: Indomitus on May 13, 2007, 03:55:41 PM
It'll be interesting to see if any sequels to this thing come out. They certianly set it up left and right for them on the chance the movie would do well. Which, of course, it didn't.
That's never stopped them before.  Hell, they made a sequel for D&D.
Title: Re: The Eragon-ous Zone (Thoughts)
Post by: Pak-Man on May 13, 2007, 04:25:06 PM
OK. Disembaudio gets to sing every song ever in every movie from now on. :^)
Title: Re: The Eragon-ous Zone (Thoughts)
Post by: Rattrap007 on May 15, 2007, 08:53:12 AM
I want more of Disembadio's singing over credits... then we can have the CD of Disembadio Sings the Hits!!
Title: Re: The Eragon-ous Zone (Thoughts)
Post by: mrbasehart on May 17, 2007, 06:48:59 PM
I thought the Riff gathered momentum as the movie went on and by the end, with Dis singing his little heart out, I loved it.  And while I didn't think the movie was really bad, it certainly provided enough material for its running time. 
Title: Re: The Eragon-ous Zone (Thoughts)
Post by: Fuzzy Necromancer on May 19, 2007, 09:24:08 PM
Wow.  This film was awful on a scale that one rarely sees in major Hollywood productions.   The incompetent rip-off of a script (which admittedly the film owes to its source material), the acting that was just weak, the lack of continuity between shot to shot, the effects that look like they were done for a Playstation.    I could dedicate a multipage rant on so many aspects of the film.  Scholars should study this disaster as an example of exactly how to not make a movie. 

I thought the riffing was solid but not spectacular for the movie.

oohh no. You cannot put htat much blame on paulini. Eragon the book was a bit derivative, but the sheer toxic, duplicated badness comes from the lifted visuals and the butchered plot you can only get from cramming a big thick novel into a hundred minute movie.
Title: Re: The Eragon-ous Zone (Thoughts)
Post by: LadyKenobi on May 20, 2007, 06:41:43 PM
Quote
You cannot put htat much blame on paulini. Eragon the book was a bit derivative,

1)  Yes we can.

2)  A bit?

A BIT?!!!?

He ripped his fanfic of a "novel" off almost wholesale from LotR, Dragonrider of Perin, Wheel of Time, and a mish-mash of various other fantasy/sci-fi sources.  If he turned this in as an assignment in one of my writing classes, he would receive a gigantic zero and an all expenses paid trip to the chair's office for plagiarism.  This not only never should have been a movie; it never should have existed as a book.
Title: Re: The Eragon-ous Zone (Thoughts)
Post by: Fuzzy Necromancer on May 20, 2007, 11:11:09 PM
Alright, it was very derivative. It had your rider-dragon link thingy, an undistinguished system of magic, elves, dwarves, and a slight variation on the "evil, stupid hero-fodder bad guy race".

However, it was not without some spark of original thought. The Razaks where a new idea. Insectoid race that is simply filling in the "human's natural enemies" role so many other predators had lost on account of lacking thumbs. I don't think I've ever heard or read about a were-cat before this book.

My main point is, however derivative it was, it was less derivative than the movie. The creators of this film have done the seemingly impossible and managed to suck and pulverize the scraps and grains of independent thought that went into the novel "Eragon", and then filled out the empty space with styrofoam peanuts.

Novel: razaks, scary man-eating bug people with paralyzing breath. More powerful than Urgals, and less likely to be dispatched in a single scene.

Movie: Razaks are just some poorly illuminated sweaty guys. No attempt is made to distinguish them from the "urgals", which were also played by undisguised sweaty guys.

Novel: creator is somewhat original, if not wise, in introducing a serious character who changes into a cat and is named "Solembum".

Movie: Solembum is dropped to make the fortune telling scene even more cryptic and pointless. Opportunities for riffs untold are lost to us.



That is my point.
Title: Re: The Eragon-ous Zone (Thoughts)
Post by: eegah on May 25, 2007, 10:22:34 PM
I thought the Riff gathered momentum as the movie went on

Agreed. I was thinking it was going to be a dud early on, but it got better. Overall, an average rifftrax. And Disembaudio was great at the end.
Title: Re: The Eragon-ous Zone (Thoughts)
Post by: BassBone on February 08, 2008, 01:55:14 AM
Anyone notice that Saphira's armor looks completely different before she puts it on? Dammit, movie! Continuity!
Title: Re: The Eragon-ous Zone (Thoughts)
Post by: Sideswipe on February 08, 2008, 06:30:26 AM
I actually did notice that.  I wonder why there wasnt a ridd about that.
Title: Re: The Eragon-ous Zone (Thoughts)
Post by: Scrivener on February 08, 2008, 08:09:02 AM
I actually did notice that.  I wonder why there wasnt a ridd about that.

They had one, but they got ridd of it.

<ducks>
Title: Re: The Eragon-ous Zone (Thoughts)
Post by: Sideswipe on February 08, 2008, 08:20:06 AM
 :angry: :gouge: