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Title: What did we learn!?!
Post by: wihogfan on October 19, 2018, 06:35:43 PM
The major stakes in a movie where loot boxes and product placement counted as plot were whether or not the evil corporation would triumph and add more product placement and loot boxes to video games,
Title: Re: What did we learn!?!
Post by: dbsommer on October 19, 2018, 07:21:41 PM
I learned what really bad fanfiction looks like.
Title: Re: What did we learn!?!
Post by: wihogfan on October 19, 2018, 09:08:46 PM
I learned that how to find common well known Easter eggs in old Atari 2600 games will either be wiped from the internet in the future or else people in the future just can't practice and perfect finding those Easter eggs in old Atari 2600 games offline before trying to find them online in life or death situations.
Title: Re: What did we learn!?!
Post by: kunedog on October 19, 2018, 10:58:30 PM
I learned this movie has its flaws, but it supplies one hell of a counterpoint to the type of movie that unaccountably goes out of its way to demonize geeks and insult its fans (e.g. Ghostbusters2016).  It was worth the rewatch.

I learned that the standard christmas tree green light is meaningless to start the first key race, and you must wait for the counter-intuitive slow firework from the statue of liberty instead.  There must have been a LOT of disqualifications until everyone figured that out.

I learned that the ultimate evil avatar is a man-in-black from the original Deus Ex.

I learned that you should wear a disguise when visiting the archives, presumably only to avoid being obstructed by a mob (it can't be to keep your visit secret; everyone already knows Wade (and everyone else) goes there).  However, you should NOT wear a disguise on your date at the club, even though you presumably still don't want to be recognized and mobbed, and the "date" is just a cover story for continuing the key search, so getting recognized at club is actually giving away strategic info.  Samantha going on the date as herself (and allowing Wade to) was at least as dumb as Wade revealing his real name, and far more out of character.

I learned that you shouldn't wear a disguise, even when visiting the archives. AFAIK this is exactly how IOI follows the crew into The Shining.  Disguises never come up again until Wade use his IRL self to fool Sorento . . . that one twist must be the only reason they were introduced at all.

I learned that despite the paranoia, none of the friendly gamers they meet in the oasis turn out to be secretly evil and betray them.  Except the furry.

I learned that it's a "long story" how Wade survived the cataclysm bomb, and he can't explain it to Samantha even though she was with him for literally the whole story.  "The quarter you made me accept from the Curator was an extra life."  Fill in that one gap and she's good.


The major stakes in a movie where loot boxes and product placement counted as plot were whether or not the evil corporation would triumph and add more product placement and loot boxes to video games,

pay2win did exist, but AFAIK the only gamers shown using it were IOI employees and the step-uncle.  Wade addressed it (or tried to) by saying there was deliberately enough "random" loot around for anyone to succeed based on skill alone.
Title: Re: What did we learn!?!
Post by: CJones on October 20, 2018, 12:57:27 AM
I was born in 1975, so I was definitely a child of the 80s and 90s. But apparently less so than these kids born after 2000. Am I supposed to believe that no new pop culture was worth remembering after the 90s?
Title: Re: What did we learn!?!
Post by: wihogfan on October 20, 2018, 09:11:32 AM
I was born in 1975, so I was definitely a child of the 80s and 90s. But apparently less so than these kids born after 2000. Am I supposed to believe that no new pop culture was worth remembering after the 90s?
My teen years were all in the 80s. And I was definitely a bit of a geek. What I'm learning is that what we considered popular culture and the antithesis of geek culture in the 80s is now considered geek culture by the kids born later.
Title: Re: What did we learn!?!
Post by: The Lurker on October 20, 2018, 09:46:13 AM
I learned that it’s one of the few where the self-insert is the author’s own car.  The author does in fact own a Ghostbusters styled DeLorean.
Title: Re: What did we learn!?!
Post by: CJones on October 20, 2018, 12:38:10 PM
I learned that it’s one of the few where the self-insert is the author’s own car.  The author does in fact own a Ghostbusters styled DeLorean.

With the "Cylon eye" from Knight Rider? Gotta admit, that is pretty cool.
Title: Re: What did we learn!?!
Post by: Nobody on October 20, 2018, 07:56:23 PM
The guys are still pizza snobs.  Okay, I agree on Chuck E. Cheese, but Pizza Hut isn't the worst pizza on the planet.  That would be Little Caesar's.

They also don't like Doritos.  We'll have to agree to disagree on that one.


Title: Re: What did we learn!?!
Post by: CJones on October 21, 2018, 08:56:22 AM
So Daito could choose any giant robot for 2 minutes. And he didn't choose Gunbuster. Hell, he didn't even choose the most powerful model of Gundam.

Which reminds me, where are all the Dragonball characters?
Title: Re: What did we learn!?!
Post by: dbsommer on October 21, 2018, 10:08:35 AM
So Saito could choose any giant robot for 2 minutes. And he didn't choose Gunbuster. Hell, he didn't even choose the most powerful model of Gundam.

Remember, you have to be a young girl with jiggly breasts to pilot those things.

I'm still amused the only redeeming thing about Gunbuster II was the very final scene, which tied into the final scene of the first series. Which does still move me a bit. 12 thousand years and they still remembered.

I'm assuming they're still making Gundam series. I'm pretty sure they're legally obligated to make at least one a year until the end of eternity.

Which reminds me, where are all the Dragonball characters?

They did a live action Dragonball. I don't mean Evolution. I mean before that. It... doesn't translate into live action well. At all.
Title: Re: What did we learn!?!
Post by: The Lurker on October 21, 2018, 10:15:27 AM
Shouldn’t the Oasis be absolutely crawling with furries?
Title: Re: What did we learn!?!
Post by: ManUnderMask on October 24, 2018, 07:21:10 AM
I learned that my life is actually worse now than it was before I watched this movie.

I learned that a minor birthmark can make a hot woman not look any less hot.

I learned that watching action scenes with no life or death stakes is meaningless and boring.

I learned that ineffectual villains are bad villains.
Title: Re: What did we learn!?!
Post by: CJones on October 24, 2018, 03:38:40 PM
I learned that a "Zemeckis Cube" is apparently a thing. You already have the Delorean. Why do you need a Rubik's Cube to go back in time? And how does that even work? Is every other player just twiddling their thumbs while their avatars are locked into doing whatever they did for the previous 30 seconds?

I learned they couldn't get the rights to use Jack Nicholson's likeness from the Shining. So they gave the axe to the naked woman.

Speaking of which, is "H" supposed to be a lesbian? She seems really into the naked chick. I know that at that point in the movie we're not supposed to know she's actually female, but once you do know that, that scene makes no sense.

Against all odds, there are no female avatars who are actually dudes. Even though the movie specifically mentions this as a distinct possibility.

I learned that a minor birthmark can make a hot woman not look any less hot.

If anything, it makes her look like a superhero.
Title: Re: What did we learn!?!
Post by: Iron Curtain on October 24, 2018, 05:40:45 PM
I learned that Steven Spielberg can make movies that are almost as bad as or worse than Indiana Jones II & IV.

I learned that in the future people will want to be able to feel pain in video games.

I learned that Spielberg still hasn't learned anything beyond using stock stereotypes for non-white races and ethnicities since Goonies.

I learned that there is no other video game than the Oasis, and that nobody would want to play any other type of game (such as an offline game) on any other platform.

I learned that all of Wade Watson's friends are in Columbus and not spread out throughout the Globe.

I learned that the pop culture reference riffing done by MST3K and Rifftrax was no accident, and done relative to something on screen, and intended to make you laugh, because this movie is Exhibit A in what happens when you do pop culture references wrong.
Title: Re: What did we learn!?!
Post by: Iron Curtain on October 24, 2018, 05:44:06 PM
Shouldn’t the Oasis be absolutely crawling with furries?

Apparently, Furryism went extinct, I guess…
Title: Re: What did we learn!?!
Post by: The Lurker on October 24, 2018, 05:47:37 PM
I learned that Spielberg still hasn't learned anything beyond using stock stereotypes for non-white races and ethnicities since Goonies.
That's an issue with the source material the movie is based on.
Title: Re: What did we learn!?!
Post by: Iron Curtain on October 24, 2018, 05:50:24 PM
I also learned that in the future, cops arrest bad CEOs and black people trust cops.
Title: Re: What did we learn!?!
Post by: Iron Curtain on October 24, 2018, 05:50:56 PM
I learned that Spielberg still hasn't learned anything beyond using stock stereotypes for non-white races and ethnicities since Goonies.
That's an issue with the source material the movie is based on.

Duly noted, but I wish Spielberg would've fixed it somehow…
Title: Re: What did we learn!?!
Post by: CJones on October 24, 2018, 06:12:12 PM
I learned that there is no other video game than the Oasis, and that nobody would want to play any other type of game (such as an offline game) on any other platform.

Apparently you can play any other video game while in the Oasis. Seems like a waste of bandwidth, especially considering bandwidth limitations are cited as part of the fall of society. Incidentally, in the book, Wade wins the "extra life" by reaching the kill screen of Pac-Man. Makes more sense than him winning it from a random bet, but it wouldn't make for riveting cinema.

Speaking of the fall of society, it will be partially caused by a corn syrup drought. And this will be considered a bad thing.
Title: Re: What did we learn!?!
Post by: Iron Curtain on October 24, 2018, 06:19:13 PM
I learned that there is no other video game than the Oasis, and that nobody would want to play any other type of game (such as an offline game) on any other platform.

Apparently you can play any other video game while in the Oasis. Seems like a waste of bandwidth, especially considering bandwidth limitations are cited as part of the fall of society. Incidentally, in the book, Wade wins the "extra life" by reaching the kill screen of Pac-Man. Makes more sense than him winning it from a random bet, but it wouldn't make for riveting cinema.

Speaking of the fall of society, it will be partially caused by a corn syrup drought. And this will be considered a bad thing.

Wow. The book was better*.

*in the respect that the "extra life" was from reaching the kill screen of Pac-Man rather than a random bet.
Title: Re: What did we learn!?!
Post by: Iron Curtain on October 24, 2018, 07:03:37 PM
The guys are still pizza snobs.  Okay, I agree on Chuck E. Cheese, but Pizza Hut isn't the worst pizza on the planet.  That would be Little Caesar's.

They also don't like Doritos.  We'll have to agree to disagree on that one.

Take it from this Brooklynite: The worst pizza on the planet is either

A. Pizza from California, or
B. Any Pizza from a place called "Ray's Pizza"

That is all.
Title: Re: What did we learn!?!
Post by: CJones on October 24, 2018, 09:28:12 PM
https://www.youtube.com/v/TVM_Bl7yssM
Title: Re: What did we learn!?!
Post by: Iron Curtain on October 25, 2018, 04:00:17 AM
https://www.youtube.com/v/TVM_Bl7yssM

Exactly what I was thinking!  ;)
Title: Re: What did we learn!?!
Post by: ManUnderMask on October 25, 2018, 07:36:16 PM
I also learned that in the future, cops arrest bad CEOs and black people trust cops.

The cops that randomly appeared just so they didn't have to kill the bad guy?
Title: Re: What did we learn!?!
Post by: Iron Curtain on October 26, 2018, 04:48:57 PM
I also learned that in the future, cops arrest bad CEOs and black people trust cops.

The cops that randomly appeared just so they didn't have to kill the bad guy?

yes
Title: Re: What did we learn!?!
Post by: Nobody on October 27, 2018, 08:57:23 AM
The guys are still pizza snobs.  Okay, I agree on Chuck E. Cheese, but Pizza Hut isn't the worst pizza on the planet.  That would be Little Caesar's.

They also don't like Doritos.  We'll have to agree to disagree on that one.

Take it from this Brooklynite: The worst pizza on the planet is either

A. Pizza from California, or
B. Any Pizza from a place called "Ray's Pizza"

That is all.
I've never been to a "Ray's Pizza", but I did have a date want to go to California Pizza Kitchen, and...  Well...  I stand corrected.
Title: Re: What did we learn!?!
Post by: Pastor of Muppets on November 01, 2018, 04:00:55 AM
I learned that a large corporation can operate SWAT teams, armed drones, explosives, and arrest people with impunity, and this will not bother the actual police forces in the slightest.
Title: Re: What did we learn!?!
Post by: wihogfan on November 03, 2018, 07:31:51 PM
Watching it a second time and well...missed it on the first viewing, but the nerd Oasis creator's favorite things were all non-nerdy pop culture things (in addition to his favorite restaurant being Chucky Cheese's).




Title: Re: What did we learn!?!
Post by: wihogfan on November 03, 2018, 08:14:22 PM
I learned that in the future, stacking mobile homes in impracticle mobile home racks is apparently more cost effective than replacing mobile home parks with tenement housing.
Title: Re: What did we learn!?!
Post by: The Lurker on November 03, 2018, 08:28:15 PM
I learned that in the future, stacking mobile homes in impracticle mobile home racks is apparently more cost effective than replacing mobile home parks with tenement housing.
Probably inspired by this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kowloon_Walled_City (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kowloon_Walled_City)
Title: Re: What did we learn!?!
Post by: CJones on November 04, 2018, 08:51:00 PM
I learned that in the future, stacking mobile homes in impracticle mobile home racks is apparently more cost effective than replacing mobile home parks with tenement housing.
Probably inspired by this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kowloon_Walled_City (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kowloon_Walled_City)

Ha, I was just thinking of that. Kowloon Walled City was the most densely populated place on the planet at the time. And it was effectively lawless, being entirely surrounded by British Hong Kong, which was in turn an enclave of China. Neither government was interested in sending police there.

What's sad is that modern day living conditions in Hong Kong are even worse, with many people living in "apartments" the size of American parking spaces. It's not even a problem of lack of land, as many believe. The government leases land to the highest bidder, and few of those bidders are interested in building residential housing.
Title: Re: What did we learn!?!
Post by: Pastor of Muppets on November 07, 2018, 01:44:10 PM
I learned that how to find common well known Easter eggs in old Atari 2600 games will either be wiped from the internet in the future or else people in the future just can't practice and perfect finding those Easter eggs in old Atari 2600 games offline before trying to find them online in life or death situations.

I don't think that information was lost.  It just didn't occur to the Sixers to look for it.
Title: Re: What did we learn!?!
Post by: dbsommer on March 10, 2019, 08:01:04 PM
I learned a movie can have nothing but cliched characters for the entire cast. I knew every single thing every single character would do before they ever did it. I was taught this was terrible writing. A guy that saw the genius in a Color Purple and Jurrasic Park should have known better.

I learned every single person in the Oasis that was capable of any extrordinary feat was already in the small group of friends the main character had. Except one evil henchmen, who had an easily circumvented way around his indestructable shield.

I learned Steve Spielberg watched Time Chasers and wrote Bob Evil into his movie.

I learned Bob Evil saw no reason to leave more than one inept guard to guard the only defense he has from an angry army outside his doorstep. Despite the fact he had a small army on hand to do so, and the most important job the army could possibly have was guarding the key to the defense.

I learned every writer should be forced to watch Austin Powers and, unless they are writing a parody, should never use an idea in it in their story (see above)

I learned the protagonist emulated a person with serious issues in trying to interact with people in the real world. I mean that guy needed therapy on every level. I view no one around him as an actual friend since they made no effort to help him, or gave up and let him be. He died with nothing but regrets and they stood by and watched him do it. I view the protagonist as an idiot for thinking emulating him was a good thing.

I learned the hero should have no sense of accomplishment by being handed a deus ex machina by a deus ex machina in order to out last everyone else.

I learned the moral of the story is: avoiding life by hanging out in a VR world 7 days a week is wrong, but avoiding life by hanging out in it 5 days a week is fine.

...no it !#$% isn't. He should have pushed the button and destroyed the Oasis. I'm still a little boggled that wasn't what it was building up to.