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Title: Ready: Player One(2018)
Post by: Henry88 on June 05, 2017, 09:17:54 PM
The Small Hadron Collider: (http://collider.com/ready-player-one-movie-oasis-motion-capture/#parzival)
Tye Sheridan Says 60% of ‘Ready Player One’ Takes Place in the OASIS; Avatars Are Motion-Capture


i just have one question
http://www.shmoop.com/ready-player-one/chapter-35-summary.html

how the heck are they going to pull that off. ?
Title: Re: Ready: Player One(2018)
Post by: Pak-Man on June 06, 2017, 07:11:04 AM
I'm more curious about how they're going to make a guy playing Pac-Man and Joust or reenacting War Games into viable scenes.
Title: Re: Ready: Player One(2018)
Post by: RoninFox on June 06, 2017, 09:37:31 AM
I'm more curious about how they're going to make a guy playing Pac-Man and Joust or reenacting War Games into viable scenes.

Agreed. Not only is this a story that will be difficult to crap into a 2 hourish movie, it has a lot of details that just won't translate very well cinematically. I'm curious how it might work out, but I have serious doubts it can stand up to the book.
Title: Re: Ready: Player One(2018)
Post by: Henry88 on June 06, 2017, 08:17:27 PM
Ready Player One’s Ben Mendelsohn reveals why is character won’t stay faithful to the novel
http://www.heyuguys.com/ready-player-ones-ben-mendelsohn/

of course not.
Title: Re: Ready: Player One(2018)
Post by: Henry88 on July 24, 2017, 10:55:28 AM
Collider June 22, 2016: (http://collider.com/ready-player-one-steven-spielberg-easter-eggs/)
‘Ready Player One': Steven Spielberg Says He’s Avoiding References to His Own Movies

Can READY PLAYER ONE Stand Out In A LEGO MOVIE World? (http://birthmoviesdeath.com/2017/07/24/can-ready-player-one-stand-out-in-a-lego-movie-world)
Ernest Cline’s vision of future entertainment already feels outdated.
Quote from: ANDREW TODD
The trailer for the film adaptation of the 2011 Ernest Cline novel Ready Player One landed at SDCC 2017 last week, and aside from proving that the movie is a real thing that exists, it gave people a lot to chew on. With its whirlwind of pop-culture imagery and its Steven Spielberg director credit, it’s definitely one of the more curious major films of 2018. But it’d be way more curious were it released five years ago, before putting pop icons in a blender became commonplace.

Ready Player One takes place in 2045. The world is essentially unlivable, and people spend most of their time in an immersive, massively multiplayer online virtual reality world called the Oasis. It’s an impossibly huge universe filled with every conceivable activity, and thanks to its creator’s nostalgia for ‘80s video games, every conceivable icon of pop culture. The book and film revolve around a quest to solve a nigh-impossible series of challenges set by the Oasis’ creator. Thus, the world of Ready Player One is one where being good at video games and knowing obscure nerd trivia is a surefire path to success.

That would be shallow geek wish-fulfilment fantasy by itself, even if the novel didn’t get all its audience juice from nostalgic pop-culture recognition. In the Oasis, players can appear however they want and acquire whatever vehicles or items they want, if they can find them, meaning the universe is littered with Boba Fetts, Master Chieves, Wonder Women, Megazords, and so on. Put simply, Ready Player One’s Oasis is Skyrim with all the ridiculous mods turned on; or more to the point, Second Life as seen in Monster Factory.

When plumbing the depths of pop culture for references and cameos, of course, licensing deals have to be reached. Let’s dig into what properties can be seen in the trailer alone (hi, commenters: I already know I’m probably missing some and getting others wrong):

  • “Pure Imagination,” from Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory (Universal Music Group)
  • Harley Quinn and Deathstroke from DC Comics (WB/DC)
  • Gandalf from The Lord of the Rings (WB)
  • The Iron Giant (WB; will likely fight Mechagodzilla, also WB)
  • Napoleon Bonaparte (uh...public domain, I guess)
  • A giant scorpion from...Centipede? (Atari)
  • Ostriches from Joust (Atari)
  • Freddy from A Nightmare On Elm Street (WB/New Line)
  • Duke Nukem (Gearbox)
  • The DeLorean from Back to the Future (Amblin)
  • “Tom Sawyer,” by Rush (Univeral Music Group)
  • Christine (really just a Plymouth Fury)
  • Lara Croft, Tomb Raider (Square Enix)
  • The A-Team van (really just a GMC Vandura)
  • Bigfoot, the original monster truck (really just a modified Ford F-series)
  • Mad Max's signature ride (WB, but also just a modified Ford Interceptor)
  • The bike from Akira (WB, which has a live-action film in development now)
Given that Ready Player One is a Warner/Amblin co-production, the theme on display shouldn’t come as any surprise. Most of the “hero” characters and vehicles - the Iron Giant, the DeLorean, the Akira motorcycle - come directly from the production companies’ back catalogues, as do many of the background characters. Licensing deals aren’t cheap, after all.

If you’re new to this and it all sounds a little bit like the Lego movies or Wreck-It Ralph - or god help us, Pixels - you’re not alone. Those films also deal heavily on nostalgia and pop-culture recognition, and in the Lego example, even draw from the same Warner Bros. library of licenses as Ready Player One. Hell, the first Lego Movie even has a similar story, with its hero learning to control the mechanisms through which its universe (in this case, Lego rather than virtual reality) operates. At least Wreck-It Ralph was smart enough (or bereft enough of official licenses? It did have a few) to synthesise its inspiration into analogues, but it had different things to say about its particular slice of culture.

Half a decade ago, Ready Player One's giddy mashup of icons - its “holy grail of pop culture,” as the trailer self-congratulatorily puts it - would have been something we'd never seen before. In the film’s release year of 2018, we’ll already be familiar with it. We're in the age of shared universes, “versus” movies, and Marvel vs Capcom, where crossovers don't just happen - they're almost expected from large-scale entertainment. Think how crazy a Batman/Superman movie seemed when a poster for one appeared in I Am Legend, just ten years ago. Now, it feels like small potatoes. Ready Player One merely represents a natural evolution of that trend; the Iron Giant fighting Freddy Krueger could actually end up invoking yawns rather than gasps (I exaggerate, obviously). Maybe the book was a little bit prophetic. Maybe its prophecy came true between the book’s publication and the film’s release.

One thing Ready Player One could do to set itself apart (but likely won't) is make a statement about its characters’ obsession with 1980s culture. Remember that in 2045, when the film is set, the 1980s will be as temporally distant as the 1950s are to today - not exactly the stuff kids flock to. There’s a point to be made in there about pop culture completely stalling around now-ish, and just continuing to re-digest and regurgitate itself for another thirty years. The existence of the Lego movies (not to mention current pop culture’s obsession with reviving old properties) would tend to support that in real life, despite the continued emergence of new cultural touchstones. But the book doesn’t go out of its way to make that point. Certainly, nostalgia is depicted as a soothing panacea to blot out the depressing reality of post-climate-disaster Earth, but Cline takes entirely too much joy in smashing his action figures together to make any kind of cogent statement. By and large, the book is the freewheeling culture jam the Oasis represents; its readers, Cline's future escapism-seekers.

What will Spielberg make of it all? He’s been kicking around long enough to see his own work become the subject of nostalgia - even, specifically, the nostalgia of Ready Player One - and he’s smart enough to elevate source material through loose and critical adaptations. The crucial element, I suspect, will be Spielberg’s treatment of its Willy Wonka figure, Oasis creator James Halliday, as played by Mark Rylance. The novel contains hints of Halliday having used ‘80s nostalgia as a means to escape a childhood that itself gets fetishised by Oasis players. There’s a sad, cyclical story in there, though again, it’s not mined thoroughly by the novel. But it’s precisely the kind of thing Spielberg might grab onto: after all, he’s something of a Wonka figure himself. Get ready for a slew of "Spielberg's latest film is really about filmmaking!" takes come March.

Ready Player One’s trailer surprised me with its desaturated, grimly-lit look; maybe Spielberg has something up his sleeve. Maybe he doesn’t. Or, more likely, maybe the film will join the Fight Club club in revelling too much in the culture it’s attempting to satirise (if it even tries to do that). Spielberg has earned the benefit of the doubt many times over, but if ever there was a project of his of which I was skeptical, it’s Ready Player One.
Title: Re: Ready: Player One(2018)
Post by: Darth Geek on July 24, 2017, 12:16:52 PM
Everything I've heard about this (which admittedly isn't extensive) makes this feel like just one large scale bad fanfic. But with Spielberg actually directing this, I have some hope.

EDIT: I just realized something. So does this seem like a remake of the Lawnmower Man movie to anybody else?
Title: Re: Ready: Player One(2018)
Post by: Pak-Man on July 24, 2017, 12:32:24 PM
I've read the book. It's not fanfic, exactly, because it's not based on anything. It's ABOUT being a fan of real things, so it's like Fanboyfic. It's not groundbreaking writing by any stretch, but it's an enjoyable read, if you enjoy sci-fi peppered liberally with '80s and video game references, which I do. It's a hard book to sell without overselling, which is why you hear people ranting passionately about it like it's the next great American novel, and others feeling like it's overrated. It's fun. Nothing less, nothing more. No idea how it's gonna translate to screen, but the trailer looks about right.
Title: Re: Ready: Player One(2018)
Post by: Darth Geek on July 24, 2017, 12:34:04 PM
Apparently Lawnmower Man is referenced in the book. So Matt Frewer had better be in this. Because Matt Frewer makes everything better.
Title: Re: Ready: Player One(2018)
Post by: Variety of Cells on July 24, 2017, 01:54:16 PM
I've read the book. It's not fanfic, exactly, because it's not based on anything. It's ABOUT being a fan of real things, so it's like Fanboyfic. It's not groundbreaking writing by any stretch, but it's an enjoyable read, if you enjoy sci-fi peppered liberally with '80s and video game references, which I do. It's a hard book to sell without overselling, which is why you hear people ranting passionately about it like it's the next great American novel, and others feeling like it's overrated. It's fun. Nothing less, nothing more. No idea how it's gonna translate to screen, but the trailer looks about right.

I couldn't get into it. It felt like a dad writing about the video games he used to play, just making as many references as he could without being really connected to the content. Maybe it got better, but I couldn't get past the first few chapters.
Title: Re: Ready: Player One(2018)
Post by: RoninFox on July 24, 2017, 01:59:51 PM
Apparently Lawnmower Man is referenced in the book. So Matt Frewer had better be in this. Because Matt Frewer makes everything better.

Max Headroom is in the book too, so damn right Matt Frewer better be in this.
Title: Re: Ready: Player One(2018)
Post by: Henry88 on July 24, 2017, 02:20:15 PM
is it wrong to want to see mechagodzilla destroy the iron giant.
Title: Re: Ready: Player One(2018)
Post by: Pak-Man on July 24, 2017, 02:51:58 PM
I've read the book. It's not fanfic, exactly, because it's not based on anything. It's ABOUT being a fan of real things, so it's like Fanboyfic. It's not groundbreaking writing by any stretch, but it's an enjoyable read, if you enjoy sci-fi peppered liberally with '80s and video game references, which I do. It's a hard book to sell without overselling, which is why you hear people ranting passionately about it like it's the next great American novel, and others feeling like it's overrated. It's fun. Nothing less, nothing more. No idea how it's gonna translate to screen, but the trailer looks about right.

I couldn't get into it. It felt like a dad writing about the video games he used to play, just making as many references as he could without being really connected to the content. Maybe it got better, but I couldn't get past the first few chapters.
It got better IMHO, but I'm a sucker for treasure hunts.
Title: Re: Ready: Player One(2018)
Post by: RoninFox on July 24, 2017, 03:59:56 PM
Same for me. The hunt is what pulled me in more than anything.

Also it helped that I was listening to the audiobook. Wil Wheaton helped sell it.
Title: Re: Ready: Player One(2018)
Post by: The Lurker on December 10, 2017, 09:19:03 AM
Something seems off...
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DQn5Y05VwAAWqun?format=jpg&name=large)
Title: Re: Ready: Player One(2018)
Post by: BathTub on December 10, 2017, 09:34:05 AM
genetics in the future are a little odd.
Title: Re: Ready: Player One(2018)
Post by: Imrahil on December 14, 2017, 09:44:57 PM
...is that the real poster?
Title: Re: Ready: Player One(2018)
Post by: Pak-Man on December 14, 2017, 10:17:51 PM
http://www.digitalspy.com/movies/news/a845161/ready-player-one-poster-photoshop-error/
Title: Re: Ready: Player One(2018)
Post by: Imrahil on December 16, 2017, 01:03:16 PM
Huh.

I enjoyed the shit out of this book. I look forward to watching this movie in 20 minute segments sometime in 2019-2020.
Title: Re: Ready: Player One(2018)
Post by: Darth Geek on December 16, 2017, 02:48:17 PM
So is Spielberg going to cameo in the movie as himself? I've never read the book so I don't know if he's in it, but he's just as much of an 80s icon as the DeLorean or any of the fanboy favorite things in the trailer.
Title: Re: Ready: Player One(2018)
Post by: Henry88 on December 16, 2017, 05:46:20 PM
Ready Player One Spoilers: (https://screenrant.com/ready-player-one-trailer-cameos-easter-eggs/)
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Title: Re: Ready: Player One(2018)
Post by: Henry88 on March 12, 2018, 06:04:30 PM
Variety review (http://variety.com/2018/film/reviews/ready-player-one-review-steven-spielberg-1202723649/) confirms Mechagodzilla is in it:

Quote
Have no fear: In “Ready Player One,” there is plenty of vicarious fantasy combat, notably a war of the worlds that features the Iron Giant as well as the red-eyed, gleaming silver Mechagodzilla. Every time a creature like that shows up (at one point, even the monster fetus from “Alien” makes a kind of palm-buzzer cameo), it’s entrancingly cool. “Ready Player One” tells a breathless and relatively coherent story — essentially, the future of civilization is riding on the outcome of a video game — but the movie, first and foremost, is a coruscating explosion of pop-culture eye candy.
Title: Re: Ready: Player One(2018)
Post by: Pak-Man on March 12, 2018, 07:01:47 PM
It's a minor nitpick, I suppose, but the concept in the novel is that everyone was obsessed with '80s pop culture. Things like Mechagodzilla, King Kong, Tomb Raider, and Iron Giant aren't '80s. Granted, they're things that '80s kids tend to love anyway, so like I said, it's a minor nitpick.
Title: Re: Ready: Player One(2018)
Post by: goflyblind on March 12, 2018, 07:10:10 PM
there a way to embed videos from twitter? https://twitter.com/electrolemon/status/971208968323280896
Title: Re: Ready: Player One(2018)
Post by: wihogfan on March 13, 2018, 10:40:34 AM
So, it's a live action / CGI version of South Park's Imaginationland?
Title: Re: Ready: Player One(2018)
Post by: Henry88 on March 13, 2018, 01:13:23 PM
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it does find the Iron Giant battling Mechagodzilla while a rock-heavy soundtrack featuring everything from Blondie to the Bee Gees underscores the mayhem.
http://toofab.com/2018/03/12/ready-player-one-reviews-steven-spielberg-adaptation-hype-sxsw/

good,very good.
Title: Re: Ready: Player One(2018)
Post by: Darth Geek on March 13, 2018, 01:48:56 PM
Dread Central is less enthused:

http://www.dreadcentral.com/reviews/268986/sxsw-2018-ready-player-one-review-nostalgic-cameos-cant-save-a-mediocre-film/
Title: Re: Ready: Player One(2018)
Post by: Pak-Man on March 13, 2018, 02:12:52 PM
The book is divisive. Pretty sure the movie is gonna be divisive. I'm in the camp that loves the book for the sheer joy of it, but I know it's flawed at best. I'm expecting a flawed movie, at best. If it can just be FUN, I'll be happy.
Title: Re: Ready: Player One(2018)
Post by: RoninFox on March 13, 2018, 03:07:50 PM
The book is divisive. Pretty sure the movie is gonna be divisive. I'm in the camp that loves the book for the sheer joy of it, but I know it's flawed at best. I'm expecting a flawed movie, at best. If it can just be FUN, I'll be happy.

I'm the same way. I enjoyed the book, and I've also enjoyed Mike and Conor's podcast ripping it apart, so I'm pretty sure I'll be happy with the results. Either it'll be great fun, or riffable.
Title: Re: Ready: Player One(2018)
Post by: Imrahil on March 13, 2018, 04:07:35 PM
I really enjoyed the book as well. Struggling to even get started on Armada, so I guess it's lightning in a bottle.
Title: Re: Ready: Player One(2018)
Post by: Henry88 on March 13, 2018, 08:46:45 PM
Apparently this movie has its own wiki now.  I don't know how true any of this is but here's what it has to say:


Spoiler (click to show/hide)

i want to see this movie.
Title: Re: Ready: Player One(2018)
Post by: BathTub on March 13, 2018, 09:37:21 PM
It's a minor nitpick, I suppose, but the concept in the novel is that everyone was obsessed with '80s pop culture. Things like Mechagodzilla, King Kong, Tomb Raider, and Iron Giant aren't '80s. Granted, they're things that '80s kids tend to love anyway, so like I said, it's a minor nitpick.

No, Halliday was obsessed with the '80s, so his competition is centered around it (but even then not exclusively, Iron Giant is an overlooked prize in the book), and hence the hunters having to be obsessed with it to win the tournament, but people loved everything even Parzival flies a Firefly class ship (in the book at least) as his main ship. 
Title: Re: Ready: Player One(2018)
Post by: Imrahil on March 14, 2018, 09:28:02 PM
I thought he flew an X-Wing?
Title: Re: Ready: Player One(2018)
Post by: BathTub on March 14, 2018, 09:37:15 PM
I thought he flew an X-Wing?

He had an X-Wing too, but he didn't really use it in the book. At least to my recollection he flew around with Max Headroom in the Firefly more often.
Title: Re: Ready: Player One(2018)
Post by: RoninFox on March 14, 2018, 10:16:51 PM
I thought he flew an X-Wing?

He had an X-Wing too, but he didn't really use it in the book. At least to my recollection he flew around with Max Headroom in the Firefly more often.

By the last third of the book, he was very rich in the Oasis, and had a base full of ships, including an
X Wing. I think he was flying it when some other players attacked in the Firefly class ship, so he took it from them.

I might be mixing things up though. For a long time last year, the audio version of this was my insomnia book. It was practically the only thing that could lull me to sleep when I was getting at best five hours a night. I would start it at a pretty much random point each time. Makes it hard to keep everything in order in my head.
Title: Re: Ready: Player One(2018)
Post by: BathTub on March 15, 2018, 02:49:48 AM
That sounds about right, using the X-Wing to get the Firefly.

Dammit, just checked IMDB, Matt Frewer isn't in Ready Player One.
Title: Re: Ready: Player One(2018)
Post by: Darth Geek on March 15, 2018, 07:38:05 AM
That sounds about right, using the X-Wing to get the Firefly.

Dammit, just checked IMDB, Matt Frewer isn't in Ready Player One.
What?!
Title: Re: Ready: Player One(2018)
Post by: Imrahil on March 15, 2018, 02:40:22 PM
That sounds about right, using the X-Wing to get the Firefly.

Dammit, just checked IMDB, Matt Frewer isn't in Ready Player One.
W-W-W-W-What?!

Fixed.
Title: Re: Ready: Player One(2018)
Post by: BathTub on March 16, 2018, 12:56:30 AM
Max Headroom on Serenity was the #1 thing I wanted to see in the film.
Title: Re: Ready: Player One(2018)
Post by: Imrahil on March 16, 2018, 07:27:26 PM
I mostly want to see Acererak. I hope they don't cut that part. He sounded really cool.
Title: Re: Ready: Player One(2018)
Post by: kunedog on April 06, 2018, 10:21:22 AM
I saw it on opening night and it largely lived up to the hype (and the trailer).  It's probably not worth a second viewing except on DVD to clinically pick out the references I missed because the action was too fast and dense.  Or to sync a good riff.

Every outlet I read agreed the opening weekend's box office ($41M - $53M) was successful, but it seems pretty poor against the budget ($175M, not including marketing).  It's doing better overseas (especially China), but they were touting the domestic numbers.  Maybe they expect it to have good word of mouth and long legs?

This is from someone who didn't read the book, BTW.
Title: Re: Ready: Player One(2018)
Post by: BathTub on April 06, 2018, 05:20:59 PM
I'm booked into seeing it tomorrow.