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Title: Thoughts. Bond Thoughts.
Post by: SecretAgentSuperDragon on April 27, 2007, 01:57:02 PM
What did we think of this excursion into the world of British Aryan superspies? Sorry, but the Superdragon could take Bond on anyday of the week, and has. Remember Finland, James!?!?!
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Post by: RandyMistie on April 28, 2007, 10:38:55 AM
Well, I really loved this movie and was trepidatious about riffing it, (especially when so many other Bond films were more worthy), but I must admit, the boys were in rare form!  Great stuff!

The "11,000 dollar" running gag, the great call backs to other Rifftrax and MST3K stuff, just really awesome.  I loved it.  There were times when I said, to myself, "Stop it you guys, it's a good movie..." but I was laughing the whole time...

As a special note:  the intro with DisembAudio acting all... um... a certain way... and when Kevin said, "Is it me?  Or did DisembAudio sound a little.."  Mike: "Yes..." and then he just went on with the instructions.  That sequence was played so well by Mike, like he was uncomfortable even thinking about it, let alone talking about it.  Man, so funny!
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Post by: SecretAgentSuperDragon on April 28, 2007, 11:06:53 AM
It was pretty good. I don't know if it's in my top 10, but I'd give it an eight. There were some pretty funny jokes, but they kind of lagged in the middle, which might have off-put me a little. I'd compare it to the LOTR rifftrax.
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Post by: Hazzah on April 28, 2007, 05:17:05 PM
I too liked Casino Royale by itself.  However, the beauty of Rifftrax is the ability to say even some good flicks can be enhanced with a few quips here and there to point out the ridiculousness (sp?)

I thought this Rifftrax was brilliant!
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Post by: leeving on April 28, 2007, 08:44:41 PM
I thought it was an ok riff.  They had some good jokes, but with the pace of the movie slowing down in the second half, the riffs slowed down too.

an 8/10 for me.
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Post by: Sharktopus on April 28, 2007, 08:51:50 PM
I thought it was an ok riff.  They had some good jokes, but with the pace of the movie slowing down in the second half, the riffs slowed down too.

an 8/10 for me.

8/10? That's harsh.  :D
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Post by: leeving on April 28, 2007, 11:41:57 PM
i also think that a movie with a 2:30 hour runtime should have a 3rd riffer, i think that's why LOTR and it's long runtime worked.
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Post by: Sharktopus on April 28, 2007, 11:53:55 PM
i also think that a movie with a 2:30 hour runtime should have a 3rd riffer, i think that's why LOTR and it's long runtime worked.

But Fellowship only had 2 riffers.
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Post by: BathTub on April 29, 2007, 04:32:50 AM
Heh.
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Post by: SecretAgentSuperDragon on April 29, 2007, 06:51:43 AM
Sharktopus keeping the doughboy down.  ;)
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Post by: AmandaGal on April 29, 2007, 07:01:22 AM
I, like leeving, always hear Bill. HE'S IN MY HEAD!!!

Better Bill than Manson or something.
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Post by: leeving on April 29, 2007, 08:42:55 AM
yeah, I was wrong about LOTR.  But this one, while good, was missing something.
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Post by: Rattrap007 on April 29, 2007, 10:05:20 AM
I thought it was a good riffing, not the best.. But I thought the movie stunk. I love the old Bond and Brosnan.. Craig just plain sucks. No classic formula.. Only a med kit gadget and cell phones? Bah. Give me a healthy dose of Q branch any day.

Still a good riff, but the movie was dull as hell...
Title: Re: Thoughts. Bond Thoughts.
Post by: 6079SmithW on April 29, 2007, 10:09:50 AM
You disliked the movie because it wasn't formulaic and goofy gadget-intensive enough? I think that puts you pretty solidly in the minority, my friend.
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Post by: Hazzah on April 29, 2007, 11:25:43 AM
yeah, I was wrong about LOTR.  But this one, while good, was missing something.

You're right...it was missing a theme song by Weird Al
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Post by: BathTub on April 29, 2007, 11:49:34 AM
Hehe

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Post by: Hazzah on April 29, 2007, 11:58:16 AM
Hehe

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Sweeeeeet.  :clap:
Title: Re: Thoughts. Bond Thoughts.
Post by: Rattrap007 on April 29, 2007, 12:48:52 PM
You disliked the movie because it wasn't formulaic and goofy gadget-intensive enough? I think that puts you pretty solidly in the minority, my friend.

Well it was boring as hell! Give me the time tested formula of Bond vs a defined bad guy with world domination intent, toss in a few gadgets, a few action sequences, and Bond finally getting the girl in the end.

This one was one long drawn out plot with lots of sex.. Granted he got more "action" than most bonds, but in the action department it was dull dull dull.
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Post by: Hobbit on April 29, 2007, 01:12:38 PM
You disliked the movie because it wasn't formulaic and goofy gadget-intensive enough? I think that puts you pretty solidly in the minority, my friend.

Well it was boring as hell! Give me the time tested formula of Bond vs a defined bad guy with world domination intent, toss in a few gadgets, a few action sequences, and Bond finally getting the girl in the end.

This one was one long drawn out plot with lots of sex.. Granted he got more "action" than most bonds, but in the action department it was dull dull dull.

That wasn't the tried and true formula in the beginning.  The books and most of the Connery movies were far more dignified than those two hour explosions you seem to want so much.  If I want a 2-hour explosion, I'll watch something with Bruce Willis or Vin Diesel.  When I watch a Bond movie, I want there to be some actual spying going on.

Edit:  Besides, gadgets are stupid when Daniel Craig can do more with a cell phone than Brosnan got with his, I'm going to go with billion, dollar car.
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Post by: 6079SmithW on April 29, 2007, 01:18:54 PM
I liked that the main villain got shot long before the end of the movie, I thought it nice to see a deviation from the normal plot structure.

But a lot of the love story stuff was boring, and I don't think the girl's motivations rang wholly true.

The first hour is still the best hour of Bond ever, though.
Title: Re: Thoughts. Bond Thoughts.
Post by: dignan on April 29, 2007, 01:57:20 PM
I like Casino Royale a lot, definitely one of my favorite Bond flicks.  That said, I thought Mike and Kevin did a great job of riffery on this one.  It was full of goofy humor, and even a Sanjaya reference.  Plus the callbacks to Attack of the Clones made me laugh.  I always appreciate a good callback. 
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Post by: Nunyerbiz on April 29, 2007, 07:38:43 PM
I have yet to partake, but I'm looking forward to this one... There is really no Bond movie that isn't ripe for riffing, even if this is one of the "better" ones. I do have some concern about the tone of the riff, based only on the sample. If you are going to start questioning "plausibility" while watching any Bond stunt sequence from the last 30 years or so... I think you're missing the point. Why the hell would I watch Bond if I wanted plausible? My biggest pet peeve with Rifftrax is when they try to hold the subject movie to a higher standard than it was holding itself.
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Post by: 6079SmithW on April 29, 2007, 08:54:40 PM
Well, part of the philosophy of the new Bond movie is to put it in a much more plausible universe. Besides, if the standard to which a movie holds itself is 'stupid' (as with, say, xXx) then that shouldn't stop the riffing from pointing out stupidity.

Anyway, they don't harp on implausibility much, which is good because I'm pretty sure most of the opening chase sequence is actually pretty doable. The black guy (well, technically the black guy's stuntman) is one of those famous underground video guys who does that sort of thing all the time, though I forget the name for it.
Title: Re: Thoughts. Bond Thoughts.
Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on April 29, 2007, 09:11:38 PM
i think its called free running.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_running

also apparently parkour

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parkour

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well, technically the black guy's stuntman

nope it WAS the black guy, who is also the founder of the free running movement
Title: Re: Thoughts. Bond Thoughts.
Post by: BathTub on April 29, 2007, 10:49:01 PM
Yeah when it's a bit part with 5 seconds face time, it would be a bit silly to get an actor AND a stuntman for it.
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Post by: Sharktopus on April 29, 2007, 11:13:32 PM
The free running was cool, but it didn't make a whole lot of sense. This internationally-known bombmaker also happens to be one of the best free runners in the world? But it made for a good contrast between his finesse and Bond's blunt force/ingenuity combo, whcih I believe is what they were going for.
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Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on April 29, 2007, 11:17:27 PM
i thought the whole opening sequence was friggen amazingly well done.  havent seen stunt work like that in quite a while.
Title: Re: Thoughts. Bond Thoughts.
Post by: Sharktopus on April 29, 2007, 11:31:42 PM
i thought the whole opening sequence was friggen amazingly well done.  havent seen stunt work like that in quite a while.

It was also nice that the scene wasn't only shot in black & white, but for B&W. Part of me wishes the whole movie looked that way. Beautiful.

Thank Jebus that the Bond movies never strayed too far from realistic fight choreography. I'm almost surprised they didn't  have Pierce doing slo-mo kung fun in Die Another Die. Ridiculous stunts are a staple of 007, but Bond's always fought down-and-dirty, with the notable exception of Roger Moore's patented judo chop and shoulder throw  ::) - and that helps keep the movies grounded. I'd say that's been Bond's biggest influence on the Bourne series.
Title: Re: Thoughts. Bond Thoughts.
Post by: 6079SmithW on April 30, 2007, 04:50:13 AM
Oh, cool, when it first came out it was listed differently on IMDB. I thought that was stupid, too.
And yeah, parkour was the word I was trying to think of.

Also, of course it's unrealistic that the bomb maker is really, really good at running away (although parkour is something a lot of impoverished urban kids do) but that's a level of suspension of disbelief you just have to take. It's unrealistic that Bond's good at as many things as he is, too.
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Post by: Nunyerbiz on April 30, 2007, 04:51:58 AM
Well, part of the philosophy of the new Bond movie is to put it in a much more plausible universe. Besides, if the standard to which a movie holds itself is 'stupid' (as with, say, xXx) then that shouldn't stop the riffing from pointing out stupidity.

Anyway, they don't harp on implausibility much, which is good because I'm pretty sure most of the opening chase sequence is actually pretty doable. The black guy (well, technically the black guy's stuntman) is one of those famous underground video guys who does that sort of thing all the time, though I forget the name for it.

Well, I wouldn't say that Bond films are only hoping to achieve a standard of "stupid". That sequence from Casino Royale is nothing new, they have gone over the top with the stunt sequences for over 30 years. One of the best things about the Bond franchise is that one or two times a movie when you say to yourself: "No friggin way was that remotely possible, but it looked cool as hell.". I just shook my head when they started dropping "it's getting silly" type riffs.... as if they expect their audience to be unfamilar with Bond's work over the last handful of decades.
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Post by: MarkAndrew on April 30, 2007, 06:45:11 AM
Again, I have mostly negative reactions to Riffing good movies.
On the good side, it was MUCH easier to watch Casino Royale than Crossroads or Wicker Man.

But, and this was just me, at some point in Casino Royale the Riffing started to sound like Whining.  The complaints about Casino Royale not being 'Bond' enough (thought I too missed the nude girls in the opening song), the complaints about the Parkour chase (which I thought was awesome), about the slower (and more espionage-like) Ellipsis investigation...etc.  I could go on.

It just started to feel like willfully missing the point of Casino Royale.

So, in conclusion...and in the sole interest of providing constructive feedback, DON'T RIFF GOOD MOVIES.

Sincerely,
The Coach Z
I mean, ME
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Post by: 6079SmithW on April 30, 2007, 06:59:43 AM
You do realize some of the riffs are tongue in cheek, right? As in Halloween, where they kept complaining about the body count- Kevin made an ADD comment that made it clear they actually thought Halloween's method was better. Not every complaint is literal.
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Post by: Nunyerbiz on April 30, 2007, 07:10:05 AM
I don't know if it's a "good movie vs bad movie" type of situation, but I agree with Mark's overall point. I think Mike and the gang are at their best working with what's happening on screen.... to use a sports analogy, the "read and react" style if you will. See something on screen, fire off a riff.

I think things go off the rails a bit when they start taking themselves, and the subject movies, too seriously.  I accept certain sillyness when I go into a Bond movie or a Trek movie or a Matrix movie. It's there, everybody knows it's there and it's not particularly funny when you point it out. Sometimes it gets to the riffing equivelant of pointing at somebody in a wheelchair and saying "haha... you can't walk!".

I can appreciate the "tongue in cheek" nature of some of the riffs... but on many occasions it just comes accross as movie snobbery.
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Post by: RandyMistie on April 30, 2007, 07:14:43 AM
Well, I think we should stop trying to tell Mike and Kevin, et al, how to be funny.  I think they have it covered.
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Post by: Nunyerbiz on April 30, 2007, 07:20:34 AM
God forbid we discuss the product on the discussion board that is dedicated to it.
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Post by: AmandaGal on April 30, 2007, 07:40:31 AM
Am I the only one who thinks Schnappi is getting old? It's a fun running gag and I admit, when it came up on episode one with Anakin's mom, I almost died laughing but don't just throw it in there for no purpose at all so some forum geeks can snicker.

Other than that I liked the riff.   I don't so much care for the "don't you mean [name]" "no he was [whatever]" riffs that seem to be super common when Kevin is around but that's easily overlooked I guess.

I laughed, that's all that counts.
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Post by: Tyrant on April 30, 2007, 07:49:12 AM
Man, it was awesome. The bit on the airport runway was one of the best riffing scenes ever. Almost hard to pay attention to the action because I was laughing so hard. The movie was also pretty good. If we'd had the movie longer (stupid Blockbuster and its new releases), we probably would have watched the movie on its own first before the riffed version. I'm still not entirely sure about the details of the plot or anything. I'm not always sure that matters with a Bond movie, though.

  Anyway, good job, guys!!!
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Post by: RandyMistie on April 30, 2007, 09:43:25 AM
God forbid we discuss the product on the discussion board that is dedicated to it.

I didn't mean to sound snarky, but I guess I did... sorry...

I just think that commenting is one thing, but there seems, to me at least, to be a subtle tone on these forums like, "Do it THIS way, the way I like it!!  Don't riff that movie, riff this one!" etc. etc.  I mean, these guys are not dancing monkeys, either you like their product or you don't.  Or, you might not like this one, but another one will come next week.

Maybe, we should just trust them to do what they do best.  I don't know.  I mean, I'm sure they want feedback, but not so much marching orders.

Maybe I'm just talking out of my ass?
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Post by: SecretAgentSuperDragon on April 30, 2007, 09:59:27 AM
I usually laugh at everything they do. If I don't like a riff so much, I'll just not watch it again, simple as that. I mean it's only 3 friggin dollars.

I think Mike & Kevin & Bill have got the riffing thing down, if you ask me. If there is a riff released for a movie that you really enjoy and don't want to see riffed, then don't buy it unless you hear really really good reviews on it.

I for one, don't care. I love Fight Club, but I do not take movies so damn literally as to get severely offended if a couple little jokes are made at its expense. And I own tons of movies. I love the Matrix, and it's actually one of my favorite rifftrax because I do not care about films so much that I  feel I need to defend them.

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Post by: Nunyerbiz on April 30, 2007, 10:14:49 AM
God forbid we discuss the product on the discussion board that is dedicated to it.

I didn't mean to sound snarky, but I guess I did... sorry...

I just think that commenting is one thing, but there seems, to me at least, to be a subtle tone on these forums like, "Do it THIS way, the way I like it!!  Don't riff that movie, riff this one!" etc. etc.  I mean, these guys are not dancing monkeys, either you like their product or you don't.  Or, you might not like this one, but another one will come next week.

Maybe, we should just trust them to do what they do best.  I don't know.  I mean, I'm sure they want feedback, but not so much marching orders.

Maybe I'm just talking out of my ass?

I understand where you are coming from... but I think you may be misunderstanding my intentions. In no way do I feel that I'm giving anybody marching orders or assuming they are subservant to my wishes because I've spent $3 a track. I'm just posting my opinions... good, bad and indifferent. I think that Rifftrax is a quality product and consistently very funny. That doesn't mean that I can't take a step back and have some perspective over aspects that annoy me here and there.
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Post by: Pak-Man on April 30, 2007, 06:06:39 PM
The movie itself was cool. Needed a giant hi-tech villian base, though, with panels all over and a timer counting down to some horrible fate whenever the camera looks at it. :^)

The Riff was solid. Had some slow parts, but had enough great parts to make up for 'em.
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Post by: gammer on April 30, 2007, 06:11:42 PM
I thought this was really well done. I liked the airport scene the best.

My review here (http://www.rifftraxfan.com/reviews2007.html#30)

gammer's free preview here (http://www.rifftraxfan.com/rifferbreakdown.html)
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Post by: Rufus T on May 02, 2007, 05:18:30 AM
 I enjoyed this one. I thought the riffs, for the most part, were spot on. I loved this movie when I saw it in the theaters. The fact that they riffed on it didn't bother me at all. I was able to enjoy it because I knew the story. I agree with gammer. See this one without the riffs first. You'll be able to enjoy it more.
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Post by: Minnesota on May 02, 2007, 07:30:34 AM
So, in conclusion...and in the sole interest of providing constructive feedback, DON'T RIFF GOOD MOVIES.

Yawn... this argument is getting old very fast. The bitching gets more annoying everytime I hear it.

I love when they riff movies that are popular, one of the nice perks of the Rifftrax technology
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Post by: RandyMistie on May 02, 2007, 09:03:36 AM
Is this the most controversial Rifftrax so far?  I wasn't around the forums for LoTR, but did that one generate this much ire?

(I loved the LoTR riff myself, even though I liked the movie.)
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Post by: gammer on May 02, 2007, 09:07:30 AM
Is this the most controversial Rifftrax so far?  I wasn't around the forums for LoTR, but did that one generate this much ire?

(I loved the LoTR riff myself, even though I liked the movie.)

I don't remember LOTR being so controversial. But they did advertise LOTR as being "lighter" and more family oriented.

I think X-Men had more controversy then LOTR.
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Post by: J-Proof on May 02, 2007, 10:36:26 AM
you know what was my favorite scene? The shower scene where Bond and V-Kat are in there fully-clothed -- frickin' hilarious.

I'd been wanting to say the above set of sentences for a while now, but couldn't since - you know - we get to watch these things before you guys ;)
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Post by: Tony Farms AKA Puma Man on May 03, 2007, 03:43:00 AM
I enjoyed the movie and I enjoyed the Rifftrax.

I guess I don't see the big deal about riffing good movies.
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Post by: mrbasehart on May 09, 2007, 04:21:25 AM
I managed to watch it last night, and I gotta say, while I enjoyed the movie and the riffs, two hours plus seems to really wear on my concentration.  The first half I laughed quite a bit, but as the movie slowed down - and how could it not from the awesome chase scene? - and the riffs became a little sparser, my attention started to wander.  Does anyone else have this problem with longer movies? 
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Post by: Minnesota on May 09, 2007, 05:49:01 AM
todays action movies seem to be getting longer... very rarely is this a good thing... bond was too long, definitely contributed to the "averageness" of the movie... it reminded me of Superman/batman/and a lot of other new movies, not bad, but not good either

(that said, I love the longer riffs very easy to listen to the commentary in my opinion, I just think some directors should think about trimming the fat on their movies to create a better film)
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Post by: LadyKenobi on May 09, 2007, 07:24:22 AM
Getting back to the REALLY important stuff, when I saw this in the theater, I was incubating the Dreaded BothEnds NoroVirus, so I was afraid that my initial impressions of the movie were marred by the gastrointestinal horrors that followed.  But I have to say that my first thoughts were only confirmed:  Vespa was a cute, but not beautiful, Bond girl, and she seriously needed to use about one cake less of eyeshadow in the casino scenes.   I'm surprised she could keep her eyes open at all. Take up the makeup mirror a couple notches from the night setting, hon.
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Post by: Sharktopus on May 09, 2007, 09:58:34 PM
I was incubating the Dreaded BothEnds NoroVirus

I love how that description is subtly graphic. Marvelous.

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Vespa was a cute, but not beautiful, Bond girl, and she seriously needed to use about one cake less of eyeshadow in the casino scenes.   I'm surprised she could keep her eyes open at all. Take up the makeup mirror a couple notches from the night setting, hon.

Actually it's Vesper, what the ancient Romans called the "evening star" we now know as the planet Venus, not Vespa the Italian motorscooter. :D Ian Feming  created the name Vesper Lynd as an audio pun for West Berlin, implying her split loyalties.

I've never understood the female need for make-up, but I must admit to finding heavy raccoon eyeshadow sexy. I dunno why.
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Post by: LadyKenobi on May 10, 2007, 04:39:29 AM
Doh.  I know Vesper's origin, and her name was obviously made much of in the movie; I guess while typing I accidentally channelled Kevin's riff about her riding her Vespa to vespers.  That's what you get when you post without sleep.
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Post by: kodiakthejuggler on May 10, 2007, 08:28:49 PM
This riff includes the best usage of the "ba-dump, tssh!" in the history of ba-dump tsshes!!

Kevin had me positively ROLLING with that one!!
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Post by: Nunyerbiz on May 11, 2007, 08:36:49 AM

Overall, this was a solid track. Unofrtunately, I don't think the movie did them enough favors to cover the 2.5 hour run time. When the movie served up the hanging curveballs, they were locked on with some truly stellar riffing. Of course, there were also noticable stretches where the movie didn't give them much to work with. I found a decent amount of riffs were just Kevin and Mike reaching for something to fill the dead air... and as good as they are, I'm not one to laugh everytime they open their mouths. When it's obvious they are battling the movie for material, they tend to fill the suggestion box with more complaints than jokes. I'm not trying to knock their efforts, but hey... sometimes you just can't make enough lemonade with the lemons on hand.

Despite the movie being a long run and not exactly overflowing with prime riff fuel at times, I was near tears more than once. There were enough short stretches of brilliance to make the track an enjoyable watch. However, much like The Matrix... they didn't quite deliver enough to make the rifftrax version required viewing whenever I'm in the mood for the movie. Overall, I'd give it a 7.5/10.
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Post by: eegah on May 16, 2007, 07:49:11 PM
Some really good points, but overall mediocre. The problem seemed to me to be the slow pacing of the movie and the lack of good riff opportunities.
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Post by: PlayMSTie on May 31, 2007, 10:11:20 AM
I managed to watch it last night, and I gotta say, while I enjoyed the movie and the riffs, two hours plus seems to really wear on my concentration.  The first half I laughed quite a bit, but as the movie slowed down - and how could it not from the awesome chase scene? - and the riffs became a little sparser, my attention started to wander.  Does anyone else have this problem with longer movies? 

No, but the problem I have is that it took me nearly a week to watch it. Every night I'd think, "Tonight I'll finish it," and every night I'd watch some, get sleepy, and end up going to bed with some of it still left to go. I was starting to think it was growing longer every time I turned my back!

Anyhow, I have no attachment to or interest in Bond movies whatsoever, so I thoroughly enjoyed the riff. "He's the lost Super Mario brother" -- SNORK.
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Post by: Nunyerbiz on May 31, 2007, 10:33:09 AM
That was the same exact issue I had with LotR... it must have taken me a good half dozen aborted attempts due to falling asleep before I got through it. I never though of myself as having a short attention span... but once a movie breaks the 2.5 hour threshhold... I start to wander unless it's truly gripping stuff.
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Post by: mrbasehart on May 31, 2007, 06:13:22 PM
It's funny, but I use MST3k to help me go to sleep.  Perhaps not the most flattering of statements that can be made about the show, but it helps me relax enough that I nod off about 15-25 minutes in.
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Post by: Minnesota on May 31, 2007, 09:08:36 PM
It's funny, but I use MST3k to help me go to sleep.  Perhaps not the most flattering of statements that can be made about the show, but it helps me relax enough that I nod off about 15-25 minutes in.

lol, I do that too. only my sleeping pill of choice is Futurama. It's not a knock on the show, I just like to fall asleep with the TV on (one of the nicer perks of being single) and I've seen Futurama so many times that it makes it easier than a movie or regular television .
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Post by: SecretAgentSuperDragon on June 01, 2007, 12:51:35 PM
It's funny, but I use MST3k to help me go to sleep.  Perhaps not the most flattering of statements that can be made about the show, but it helps me relax enough that I nod off about 15-25 minutes in.

Ditto. Something relaxing about it. It used to happen to my Uncle also. He loves MST3K, but whenever we put one on, around 6 pm, we'd be out in about 10 minutes. Same reason. Just comforting. But with him it's unusually strange because he could be talking to you while he was tired, and then 20 seconds later, after you've paused for a thought or something, he'd be out cold. Hilarious.
Title: Re: Thoughts. Bond Thoughts.
Post by: Sharktopus on June 05, 2007, 01:58:20 AM
I've fallen asleep during many an MST episode. I think it comes down to the fact that, hilarious as the riffing may be, the movies can rarely keep your attention.

Hmm... That reminds me. Maybe I should buy the last two Pirates Of The Caribbean movies for the next time I have insomnia. ;)
Title: Re: Thoughts. Bond Thoughts.
Post by: SecretAgentSuperDragon on June 05, 2007, 07:05:54 AM
No friggin kidding.  :D