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Title: INDIANA JONES 5
Post by: RVR II on March 15, 2016, 02:45:59 PM
Steven Spielberg and Harrison Ford Return for INDIANA JONES 5, Releasing in 2019
http://pulse.therpf.com/indiana-jones-5-now-official-releasing-in-july-2019
Title: Re: INDIANA JONES 5
Post by: Edward J Grug III on March 15, 2016, 03:01:17 PM
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Title: Re: INDIANA JONES 5
Post by: Darth Geek on March 15, 2016, 03:23:31 PM
The only plus I can think of on this is that Shia is most likely not going to be in it.
Title: Re: INDIANA JONES 5
Post by: Ben on March 15, 2016, 03:24:31 PM
I guess it's noble of Steven to feel he has to make up for "Kingdom of the Crystal Skull," but can't he do that by doing a similar kind of adventure movie instead of trying to believably sell an action hero over 75?
Title: Re: INDIANA JONES 5
Post by: Edward J Grug III on March 15, 2016, 03:27:08 PM
I guess it's noble of Steven to feel he has to make up for "Kingdom of the Crystal Skull," but can't he do that by doing a similar kind of adventure movie instead of trying to believably sell an action hero over 75?

He did that with Tintin, but America didn't get it for some reason.
Title: Re: INDIANA JONES 5
Post by: Kete on March 15, 2016, 03:29:03 PM
WHERE'S THE BEEF?
Title: Re: INDIANA JONES 5
Post by: Ben on March 15, 2016, 03:34:24 PM
He did that with Tintin, but America didn't get it for some reason.

I think it's because the heroic archetype Tintin represents (the pure-hearted, incorruptible do-gooder) has gone out of fashion, at least in that part of the world. Nowadays it's all about handsome psychopaths (HANNIBAL, DEXTER), morally compromised protagonists (GAME OF THRONES), shades of gray (THE WIRE), profanity (BREAKING BAD) and nihilistic gore (THE WALKING DEAD).

I'll take Herge over George R.R. Martin any day.
Title: Re: INDIANA JONES 5
Post by: Edward J Grug III on March 15, 2016, 03:59:56 PM
Tintin is the best Indiana Jones movie.
Title: Re: INDIANA JONES 5
Post by: Kete on March 15, 2016, 04:09:01 PM
Tintin is the best Indiana Jones movie.

It's a good one, but certainly not the best.

I think I first heard the idea from Doug Benson that all future Indiana Jones movies should be done like Tintin.  You could have Harrison Ford voice them for as long as he's able, then find a decent sound-alike after that.
Title: Re: INDIANA JONES 5
Post by: Edward J Grug III on March 15, 2016, 04:31:25 PM
Tintin is the best Indiana Jones movie.

It's a good one, but certainly not the best.

I think I first heard the idea from Doug Benson that all future Indiana Jones movies should be done like Tintin.  You could have Harrison Ford voice them for as long as he's able, then find a decent sound-alike after that.

I'd be in to that. But I'd rather just have more Tintin.
Title: Re: INDIANA JONES 5
Post by: Ben on March 15, 2016, 04:56:10 PM
Tintin is the best Indiana Jones movie.

It's a good one, but certainly not the best.

I think I first heard the idea from Doug Benson that all future Indiana Jones movies should be done like Tintin.  You could have Harrison Ford voice them for as long as he's able, then find a decent sound-alike after that.

That's not a big stretch, actually. Anyone else thinking Spielberg might have been bit by the mo-cap bug after TINTIN and could be doing the same with INDY V, thus bypassing the problem of Harrison's age?
Title: Re: INDIANA JONES 5
Post by: ManUnderMask on March 15, 2016, 05:49:35 PM
I trust Disney on this. I mean, they did do a pretty good Star Wars movie.
Title: Re: INDIANA JONES 5
Post by: Darth Geek on March 15, 2016, 05:51:22 PM
I trust Disney on this. I mean, they did do a pretty good Star Wars movie.
I would agree with you, but the irony is that it's the involvement of Spielberg and Ford that has me the most worried.
Title: Re: INDIANA JONES 5
Post by: RVR II on March 15, 2016, 05:54:08 PM
I trust Disney on this. I mean, they did do a pretty good Star Wars movie.
I would agree with you, but the irony is that it's the involvement of Spielberg and Ford that has me the most worried.
Well so long as Ford doesn't crash another plane then, it might be a safe bet :P
Title: Re: INDIANA JONES 5
Post by: The Lurker on March 15, 2016, 06:03:51 PM
Is Lucas involved or did he give up Indy, too?
Title: Re: INDIANA JONES 5
Post by: Darth Geek on March 15, 2016, 06:33:26 PM
Is Lucas involved or did he give up Indy, too?
Hmm, good question. He wrote all of the Indy movies, right? Or does he just have a story credit?
Title: Re: INDIANA JONES 5
Post by: Edward J Grug III on March 15, 2016, 06:39:45 PM
I just looked. Just story.
Title: Re: INDIANA JONES 5
Post by: ScottotD on March 15, 2016, 07:29:46 PM
I hope it has a lot of handsome psychopaths, morally compromised protagonists, shades of gray, profanity and nihilistic gore.  Well, it's already got morally compromised protagonist and shades of grey down
Title: Re: INDIANA JONES 5
Post by: ManUnderMask on March 15, 2016, 09:06:56 PM
shades of grey down

So you want Indy and Marion to have a BDSM relationship? That's fifty shades of f'ed up, man.
Title: Re: INDIANA JONES 5
Post by: ScottotD on March 15, 2016, 09:25:45 PM
shades of grey down

So you want Indy and Marion to have a BDSM relationship? That's fifty shades of f'ed up, man.

As long as they're both consenting, he does already have a whip
Title: Re: INDIANA JONES 5
Post by: Ben on March 15, 2016, 10:20:56 PM
I hope it has a lot of handsome psychopaths, morally compromised protagonists, shades of gray, profanity and nihilistic gore.  Well, it's already got morally compromised protagonist and shades of grey down

I'm trying to understand the humor here, but I can't. How specifically is Indy "morally compromised?" Are you referring to the time he smacked Short Round in "Temple of Doom?"
Title: Re: INDIANA JONES 5
Post by: Edward J Grug III on March 15, 2016, 10:26:52 PM
I hope it has a lot of handsome psychopaths, morally compromised protagonists, shades of gray, profanity and nihilistic gore.  Well, it's already got morally compromised protagonist and shades of grey down

I'm trying to understand the humor here, but I can't. How specifically is Indy "morally compromised?" Are you referring to the time he smacked Short Round in "Temple of Doom?"

Well, he's a thief, right?
Title: Re: INDIANA JONES 5
Post by: ScottotD on March 15, 2016, 10:46:13 PM
I hope it has a lot of handsome psychopaths, morally compromised protagonists, shades of gray, profanity and nihilistic gore.  Well, it's already got morally compromised protagonist and shades of grey down

I'm trying to understand the humor here, but I can't. How specifically is Indy "morally compromised?" Are you referring to the time he smacked Short Round in "Temple of Doom?"

Well, he's a thief, right?

He also steals artifacts from tribes and such, I like Museums a lot but they're basically big collections of stolen property 
Title: Re: INDIANA JONES 5
Post by: Edward J Grug III on March 15, 2016, 10:52:48 PM
I hope it has a lot of handsome psychopaths, morally compromised protagonists, shades of gray, profanity and nihilistic gore.  Well, it's already got morally compromised protagonist and shades of grey down

I'm trying to understand the humor here, but I can't. How specifically is Indy "morally compromised?" Are you referring to the time he smacked Short Round in "Temple of Doom?"

Well, he's a thief, right?

He also steals artifacts from tribes and such, I like Museums a lot but they're basically big collections of stolen property

That's what I meant by he's a thief.
Title: Re: INDIANA JONES 5
Post by: ScottotD on March 15, 2016, 11:15:48 PM
I hope it has a lot of handsome psychopaths, morally compromised protagonists, shades of gray, profanity and nihilistic gore.  Well, it's already got morally compromised protagonist and shades of grey down

I'm trying to understand the humor here, but I can't. How specifically is Indy "morally compromised?" Are you referring to the time he smacked Short Round in "Temple of Doom?"

Well, he's a thief, right?

He also steals artifacts from tribes and such, I like Museums a lot but they're basically big collections of stolen property

That's what I meant by he's a thief.

I'm on autopilot today, just realized it's not Thursday
Title: Re: INDIANA JONES 5
Post by: Relaxing Dragon on March 16, 2016, 10:59:53 AM
An inevitable choice, and though it's also a bad one, that's just sort of the nature of modern franchises, so here we are. As always, we've got to hope for the best.

At the very least, Spielberg proved he's still got the right mindset when he made the essentially-Indy-5-already Adventures Of Tintin, so that does inspire a little faith.
Title: Re: INDIANA JONES 5
Post by: Darth Geek on March 16, 2016, 11:09:23 AM
So am I the only one who got basically nothing from Tintin?
Title: Re: INDIANA JONES 5
Post by: Relaxing Dragon on March 16, 2016, 11:38:30 AM
A think a fair number of people were left cold by that movie for a variety of reasons (Tintin's characterization seemed to be chief among them, followed by the mo-cap qualms). I just wasn't one of them, as I loved it then and now.
Title: Re: INDIANA JONES 5
Post by: Darth Geek on March 16, 2016, 11:53:11 AM
A think a fair number of people were left cold by that movie for a variety of reasons (Tintin's characterization seemed to be chief among them, followed by the mo-cap qualms). I just wasn't one of them, as I loved it then and now.
Yeah, I think Tintin was one of my biggest issues. I described it as Stuff That Happens To Tin Tin: The Movie in my review back then.
Title: Re: INDIANA JONES 5
Post by: BiteMe316 on March 16, 2016, 12:44:06 PM
So am I the only one who got basically nothing from Tintin?

No, I didn't like it either.  The voices for Titin and Captain Haddock will completely wrong (at least from the cartoon) and just too many references to story-lines that hadn't happened yet. Never mind that it went straight from "Secret of the Unicorn" to "Red Rackham's Treasure"!   :angry:
Title: Re: INDIANA JONES 5
Post by: jonalame on March 16, 2016, 06:06:43 PM
I find it strange that Ford is finally finished with Star Wars and much relieved to be so when Indiana Jones rears it's head again. None of this makes any sense. You don't have to ask Ford what he thinks, he'll take the job while hating the whole thing. Spielberg quite famously said he was done with the series and didn't want to do another when he began on Crystal Skull... I can't imagine he would want to draw any attention back to that black spot on his record. I'd hope it was a heart felt apology in movie form. Shia all but publicly apologized for Tarzan swinging and jeep-to-jeep fencing on a long and wide swathe cut through the jungle large enough to accommodate their passing. Dare I say the project would actually benefit from George Lucas' input? His rage over Star Wars might actually help him craft a story worth watching.

Came here to talk shit about ID5, came away with Tintin.
Title: Re: INDIANA JONES 5
Post by: Edward J Grug III on March 16, 2016, 06:12:03 PM
So am I the only one who got basically nothing from Tintin?

No, I didn't like it either.  The voices for Titin and Captain Haddock will completely wrong (at least from the cartoon) and just too many references to story-lines that hadn't happened yet. Never mind that it went straight from "Secret of the Unicorn" to "Red Rackham's Treasure"!   :angry:

And the Dark Knight trilogy sucks because they adapted things out of chronological order! And Heath Ledger didn't sound like Cesar Romero!  :angry: :grr: :gouge: :violin:
Title: Re: INDIANA JONES 5
Post by: Darth Geek on March 16, 2016, 07:14:02 PM
I find it strange that Ford is finally finished with Star Wars and much relieved to be so when Indiana Jones rears it's head again.

I was thinking the same thing. Is Ford going to insist that this character die too? I'm not sure I want to see another of his iconic characters get murdered in front of our eyes.  :'(
Title: Re: INDIANA JONES 5
Post by: Edward J Grug III on March 16, 2016, 07:20:52 PM
TBH, the prospect of watching Indy die is the main thing this movie has going for it.

Hopefully he is replaced with a female archaeologist.
Title: Re: INDIANA JONES 5
Post by: ScottotD on March 16, 2016, 07:59:35 PM
Lara Croft as played by Daisy Ridley

I find it strange that Ford is finally finished with Star Wars and much relieved to be so when Indiana Jones rears it's head again.

I was thinking the same thing. Is Ford going to insist that this character die too? I'm not sure I want to see another of his iconic characters get murdered in front of our eyes.  :'(

Luckily nobody will make you watch it, PHEW!  ::)
Title: Re: INDIANA JONES 5
Post by: The Lurker on March 18, 2016, 01:03:34 PM
http://screencrush.com/steven-spielberg-indiana-jones-5-writer/ (http://screencrush.com/steven-spielberg-indiana-jones-5-writer/)
Title: Re: INDIANA JONES 5
Post by: NRRork on March 19, 2016, 11:25:35 PM
Well, before last year I would've said this was a terrible idea.

But now I have faith in Lucasfilm under its new management. And as for Harrison Ford's age, well, depends what kind of SHAPE he's in really. He's not gonna be as quick as he was in 1981, but he's not some senile, decrepit old man with a walker, either.

It COULD still suck, but I'd say it has a better chance of being good now than it did, say, five years ago.
Title: Re: INDIANA JONES 5
Post by: Pak-Man on March 19, 2016, 11:57:28 PM
If he can still pull off Han Solo, he can pull off Indy.
Title: Re: INDIANA JONES 5
Post by: Edward J Grug III on March 20, 2016, 12:31:27 AM
If he can still pull off Han Solo, he can pull off Indy.

You don't think Indy is more demanding than Han Solo?
Title: Re: INDIANA JONES 5
Post by: jonalame on March 20, 2016, 01:44:57 AM
I want to see Indy punch a guy and hurt his hand and then adopt that classic faux-apologetic smirk as he tries to weasel his way out. I want Indy to get his ass kicked by a brute who he eventually tosses into some open machinery. I want to see Indy running the hell away from danger. I digress. Indy's vulnerability and the way he scrapes by are arguably the main reason we root for the character. You believe he is in danger and he's a likeable guy. You hope he makes it through. You might call it adventurous. This concept was missing from Crystal Skull and it would do a world of good if it returned for the fifth movie.
Title: Re: INDIANA JONES 5
Post by: Pak-Man on March 20, 2016, 02:14:18 AM
If he can still pull off Han Solo, he can pull off Indy.

You don't think Indy is more demanding than Han Solo?

I put gun-toting space-smuggler about on the same level as gun-toting archaeologist. Granted, Indie probably can't get into fist-fights or climb onto moving tanks anymore, but car chases and treasure hunting would still be on the agenda.
Title: Re: INDIANA JONES 5
Post by: Edward J Grug III on March 20, 2016, 03:26:25 AM
I don't buy it. It was SAD to see Grampa pretending to be Indy last time, and this is many years on.
Title: Re: INDIANA JONES 5
Post by: Ben on March 25, 2016, 05:11:56 PM
I don't buy it. It was SAD to see Grampa pretending to be Indy last time, and this is many years on.

How was it sad? I thought Harrison Ford sold the "grizzly old SOB" vibe quite well.
Title: Re: INDIANA JONES 5
Post by: Edward J Grug III on March 25, 2016, 05:17:16 PM
I don't buy it. It was SAD to see Grampa pretending to be Indy last time, and this is many years on.

How was it sad? I thought Harrison Ford sold the "grizzly old SOB" vibe quite well.

We'll have to agree to disagree on that one.
Title: Re: INDIANA JONES 5
Post by: Ben on March 26, 2016, 07:34:04 AM
We'll have to agree to disagree on that one.

If you say so. IMO, Harrison's age was the LEAST of that movie's problems.
Title: Re: INDIANA JONES 5
Post by: Edward J Grug III on March 26, 2016, 05:01:57 PM
We'll have to agree to disagree on that one.

If you say so. IMO, Harrison's age was the LEAST of that movie's problems.

Never said it was the biggest problem, but it is certainly one of the problems, and I'm far from the first person to suggest it.
Title: Re: INDIANA JONES 5
Post by: Imrahil on March 28, 2016, 05:45:38 AM
TBH, the prospect of watching Indy die is the main thing this movie has going for it.

Hopefully he is replaced with a female archaeologist.


What is wrong with you?
Title: Re: INDIANA JONES 5
Post by: Edward J Grug III on March 28, 2016, 06:20:29 AM
TBH, the prospect of watching Indy die is the main thing this movie has going for it.

Hopefully he is replaced with a female archaeologist.


What is wrong with you?

:D
Title: Re: INDIANA JONES 5
Post by: Ben on March 28, 2016, 04:00:39 PM
We'll have to agree to disagree on that one.

If you say so. IMO, Harrison's age was the LEAST of that movie's problems.

Never said it was the biggest problem, but it is certainly one of the problems, and I'm far from the first person to suggest it.

So, did you have the same beef with Harrison Ford's performance in "Force Awakens?"
Title: Re: INDIANA JONES 5
Post by: Edward J Grug III on March 28, 2016, 05:01:59 PM
If he can still pull off Han Solo, he can pull off Indy.

You don't think Indy is more demanding than Han Solo?
Title: Re: INDIANA JONES 5
Post by: Edward J Grug III on March 28, 2016, 05:20:18 PM
I've already offered to agree to disagree. I'm not sure why you feel compelled to try to convince me that I don't think Harrison Ford is old.
Title: Re: INDIANA JONES 5
Post by: Ben on March 29, 2016, 09:45:07 AM
I've already offered to agree to disagree. I'm not sure why you feel compelled to try to convince me that I don't think Harrison Ford is old.

It just seems a little unclear where you draw the line. Why do you take umbrage with Old Man Indy in ways you don't with Old Man Solo?
Title: Re: INDIANA JONES 5
Post by: jonalame on March 29, 2016, 11:47:43 AM
Here he-comes-now! ... real-ly slow! Barely limp-ing... 'cause he's old, old, old!
Title: Re: INDIANA JONES 5
Post by: Ben on March 29, 2016, 04:31:42 PM
Here he-comes-now! ... real-ly slow! Barely limp-ing... 'cause he's old, old, old!

Sucks to be a flesh-and-blood human, doesn't it? Too bad the same will happen to all of us.
Title: Re: INDIANA JONES 5
Post by: Edward J Grug III on March 29, 2016, 04:55:45 PM
I've already offered to agree to disagree. I'm not sure why you feel compelled to try to convince me that I don't think Harrison Ford is old.

It just seems a little unclear where you draw the line. Why do you take umbrage with Old Man Indy in ways you don't with Old Man Solo?

One had a script which involved an old man playing an old man and one didn't.
Title: Re: INDIANA JONES 5
Post by: Edward J Grug III on March 29, 2016, 04:55:52 PM
Here he-comes-now! ... real-ly slow! Barely limp-ing... 'cause he's old, old, old!

Sucks to be a flesh-and-blood human, doesn't it? Too bad the same will happen to all of us.

No, if he wanted to keep playing Indiana Jones, he should have never aged. That's on him.
Title: Re: INDIANA JONES 5
Post by: jonalame on March 29, 2016, 05:04:31 PM
Here he-comes-now! ... real-ly slow! Barely limp-ing... 'cause he's old, old, old!

Sucks to be a flesh-and-blood human, doesn't it? Too bad the same will happen to all of us.

That is one of my favorite bits from the Crystal Skull riff.
Title: Re: INDIANA JONES 5
Post by: ScottotD on March 29, 2016, 05:07:58 PM
Here he-comes-now! ... real-ly slow! Barely limp-ing... 'cause he's old, old, old!

Sucks to be a flesh-and-blood human, doesn't it? Too bad the same will happen to all of us.

However we can't re-cast, he can
Title: Re: INDIANA JONES 5
Post by: Kete on March 30, 2016, 10:30:14 AM
Here he-comes-now! ... real-ly slow! Barely limp-ing... 'cause he's old, old, old!

Sucks to be a flesh-and-blood human, doesn't it? Too bad the same will happen to all of us.

However we can't re-cast, he can

Speak for yourself.  I'm thinking of bringing in a 25-30 year old, any ethnicity, with an athletic body type.
Title: Re: INDIANA JONES 5
Post by: Ben on March 30, 2016, 11:54:15 AM
That is one of my favorite bits from the Crystal Skull riff.

Yes, and I'd have the same comeback for Mike if I had been in the recording studio with him.  :rimshot:
Title: Re: INDIANA JONES 5
Post by: Edward J Grug III on March 30, 2016, 03:22:33 PM
That is one of my favorite bits from the Crystal Skull riff.

Yes, and I'd have the same comeback for Mike if I had been in the recording studio with him.  :rimshot:

I hear you've been campaigning for Betty White to play Lara Croft in the Tomb Raider reboot.
Title: Re: INDIANA JONES 5
Post by: Darth Geek on March 30, 2016, 04:09:56 PM
That is one of my favorite bits from the Crystal Skull riff.

Yes, and I'd have the same comeback for Mike if I had been in the recording studio with him.  :rimshot:

I hear you've been campaigning for Betty White to play Lara Croft in the Tomb Raider reboot.
That would make a fun SNL sketch.
Title: Re: INDIANA JONES 5
Post by: Edward J Grug III on March 30, 2016, 05:11:36 PM
That is one of my favorite bits from the Crystal Skull riff.

Yes, and I'd have the same comeback for Mike if I had been in the recording studio with him.  :rimshot:

I hear you've been campaigning for Betty White to play Lara Croft in the Tomb Raider reboot.
That would make a fun SNL sketch.

Bet it wouldn't :P
Title: Re: INDIANA JONES 5
Post by: Ben on March 30, 2016, 05:11:48 PM
I hear you've been campaigning for Betty White to play Lara Croft in the Tomb Raider reboot.

I'll try to ignore the fact you're being an ageist prick for the moment, and get back to the Solo/Indy thing. You contend "Force Awakens" didn't pretend Han Solo wasn't an old man in comparison to "Crystal Skull," and yet the script for "Crystal Skull" continually acknowledges Indy's age on multiple occasions. I'm not trying to debate the quality of the movie itself (which is mostly bad), I'm just trying to make sense of your nonsensical argument.

Now, you have two options. We can attempt to continue this discussion in a civil manner, supposedly as fellow STAR WARS fans, or you can drag this down into a flame war, which will ultimately end with us both getting banned. The choice is yours, big man.
Title: Re: INDIANA JONES 5
Post by: Edward J Grug III on March 30, 2016, 05:22:35 PM
I hear you've been campaigning for Betty White to play Lara Croft in the Tomb Raider reboot.

I'll try to ignore the fact you're being an ageist prick at the moment, and get back to the Solo/Indy thing. You contend "Force Awakens" didn't pretend Han Solo wasn't an old man in comparison to "Crystal Skull," and yet the script for "Crystal Skull" continually acknowledges Indy's age on multiple occasions. I'm not trying to debate about the quality of the movie itself (which is mostly bad), I'm just trying to make sense of your nonsensical argument.

Now, you have two options. We can attempt to continue this discussion in a civil manner, supposedly as fellow STAR WARS fans, or you can drag this down into a flame war, which will ultimately end with us both getting banned. The choice is yours, big man.

Amazing.

You just called me a prick and asked me to conduct a conversation in a civil manner? And you are threatening me with a ban? How do you propose that would happen?

You're awfully close to a ban right now, "big man."

I am not much of a Star Wars fan at all, actually, I just felt the handled it better.

There is NOTHING "ageist" about suggesting Harrison Ford didn't successfully pull off an action role that was written for someone who was able to physically keep up.
Title: Re: INDIANA JONES 5
Post by: Edward J Grug III on March 30, 2016, 05:36:52 PM
Also, WTF?:

I guess it's noble of Steven to feel he has to make up for "Kingdom of the Crystal Skull," but can't he do that by doing a similar kind of adventure movie instead of trying to believably sell an action hero over 75?
Title: Re: INDIANA JONES 5
Post by: Edward J Grug III on March 30, 2016, 05:38:33 PM
Apparently Han didn't die in the Arndt version of the script. So yeah, that's JJ trying to "make his mark" (on someone else's canvas).

He's such a fuck.

To be fair, Harrison already made it clear that he wanted Han Solo to die back in ROTJ, and how long could he believably portray a badass blaster-totin' smuggler when he's over 70?
Title: Re: INDIANA JONES 5
Post by: Darth Geek on March 30, 2016, 05:42:59 PM
I don't need Steven Spielberg to "make up" for Crystal Skull. That movie just showed that he is a different director now. He's best at making different kinds of movies, like the Lincoln biopic. I thought Spielberg felt more like an embarrassing shadow of himself than Harrison Ford did in that movie.
Title: Re: INDIANA JONES 5
Post by: Edward J Grug III on March 30, 2016, 05:48:31 PM
I don't need Steven Spielberg to "make up" for Crystal Skull. That movie just showed that he is a different director now. He's best at making different kinds of movies, like the Lincoln biopic. I thought Spielberg felt more like an embarrassing shadow of himself than Harrison Ford did in that movie.

I know you didn't like it, but I thought Tintin showed he was still capible of making exactly that kind of film.

War of the Worlds is an excellently directed film that isn't too far removed either (let down by the story not really being that strong).
Title: Re: INDIANA JONES 5
Post by: ScottotD on March 30, 2016, 06:37:43 PM

Now, you have two options. We can attempt to continue this discussion in a civil manner, supposedly as fellow STAR WARS fans, or you can drag this down into a flame war, which will ultimately end with us both getting banned. The choice is yours, big man.

HAHAHA
Title: Re: INDIANA JONES 5
Post by: Ben on March 30, 2016, 07:06:00 PM
Also, WTF?:

I guess it's noble of Steven to feel he has to make up for "Kingdom of the Crystal Skull," but can't he do that by doing a similar kind of adventure movie instead of trying to believably sell an action hero over 75?

Context, asshole, context. I wrote that post when I was feeling more cynical (much how you're probably feeling right now), but that was after a second viewing of TFA and an interview featuring Harrison Ford's enthusiasm about coming back to the role. That's not to say enthusiasm will conquer the reality of an old body, but I'll take Ford's naivete over your weaselly cynicism any day of the week.

I don't care if you're a moderator. You're a moderator behaving in the manner of a troll, and I had every right to call you such. This is a THOROUGHLY prick-natured comment:

Quote
I hear you've been campaigning for Betty White to play Lara Croft in the Tomb Raider reboot.

Much like this one:

HAHAHA

If you want to ban me, ban me. Maybe it would be for the best. If your personality is commonplace for this forum (and for a MST3K/Rifftrax supporter in general), odds are I wouldn't be missing out on much.
Title: Re: INDIANA JONES 5
Post by: Edward J Grug III on March 30, 2016, 07:09:48 PM
OK, Ben needs a little time out.
Title: Re: INDIANA JONES 5
Post by: ScottotD on March 30, 2016, 07:14:29 PM
BYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE FELICIA!   :-*
Title: Re: INDIANA JONES 5
Post by: Edward J Grug III on March 30, 2016, 07:19:11 PM
If Ben chooses to come back to this thread when he is of cooler head:

When you posted your two stabs at Ford being too old, did anyone then call you a prick or an asshole? Or were they able to talk to you in a reasonable way?

If you think the joke about Betty White is trolling, I don't know what to tell you. You're on a comedy forum, and what I said was not inappropriate, off topic or meant to upset you.

The good news for you is that Spielberg and I rarely talk these days, so I doubt he will be listening to me and my feeling that Jones should be recast.
Title: Re: INDIANA JONES 5
Post by: Ben on March 31, 2016, 07:24:25 PM
Why exactly am I the only one who needs a "cooler head," Edward? Especially considering how you seem to have voluntarily turned a blind eye to ScottotD, who really HAS behaved like a troll, and been completely unapologetic about it to boot?

Look, I know you're probably influenced by the humor on MST3K which often blurs the line between "comedy" and "mockery," but your comment came across as mockery from top to bottom. Regardless of what you actually intended at the time you wrote it, you need to be more aware of how dangerous the lack of tone in online posts can be, and how easily a misunderstanding can explode into open war. That's your responsibility as a moderator.

I make no apologies. With that said, I won't come back to this thread, if it will keep the peace. I didn't mean for things to go south the way they did, but I'm not interested in being made to feel I was the only guilty party either.
Title: Re: INDIANA JONES 5
Post by: Edward J Grug III on March 31, 2016, 07:42:23 PM
If you wanted to report a post, there is a report button there on the post. Calling me an asshole because Scott laughed at you is nonsensical at best. Scott hasn't broken any of the rules of the forum (http://forum.rifftrax.com/index.php?topic=23746.0) to my reading. You did.

I don't understand how you can take my feelings that Ford is too old to play Jones so personally it makes you mad enough to lash out. We don't have to agree on things, and my thinking he is old shouldn’t have any effect on your life, your enjoyment of his work as an old man, or your ability to post in a forum as a civil adult.
Title: Re: INDIANA JONES 5
Post by: ScottotD on March 31, 2016, 07:46:34 PM
The movie could end with Indy being wheeled into a big warehouse
Title: Re: INDIANA JONES 5
Post by: Imrahil on March 31, 2016, 08:03:32 PM
HAHAHA HAH I get it. It's because he's *old*.  HAHAHAHAHAHA
Title: Re: INDIANA JONES 5
Post by: Darth Geek on March 31, 2016, 08:04:14 PM
The movie could end with Indy being wheeled into a big warehouse
I think he should end up a display in a museum.

...oh wait, that's what they did in Lone Ranger, never mind...
Title: Re: INDIANA JONES 5
Post by: Edward J Grug III on March 31, 2016, 08:14:05 PM
The movie could end with Indy being wheeled into a big warehouse
I think he should end up a display in a museum.

...oh wait, that's what they did in Lone Ranger, never mind...

How many people made it to the end to see that, I wonder? I didn't.
Title: Re: INDIANA JONES 5
Post by: Darth Geek on April 01, 2016, 05:56:57 AM
The movie could end with Indy being wheeled into a big warehouse
I think he should end up a display in a museum.

...oh wait, that's what they did in Lone Ranger, never mind...

How many people made it to the end to see that, I wonder? I didn't.
Wasn't that at the beginning of the movie, though? The kid in the museum and Tonto is one of the exhibits, and then tells him the story.
Title: Re: INDIANA JONES 5
Post by: Edward J Grug III on April 01, 2016, 06:28:48 AM
I guess I wiped the half I did see from my memory?
Title: Re: INDIANA JONES 5
Post by: Darth Geek on April 01, 2016, 06:43:53 AM
I guess I wiped the half I did see from my memory?
It's a 2.5 hour movie, so I don't blame you.
Title: Re: INDIANA JONES 5
Post by: ScottotD on April 01, 2016, 07:07:30 AM
Are you mad about Lawrence of Arabia and older long films?
Title: Re: INDIANA JONES 5
Post by: Kete on April 01, 2016, 07:35:00 AM
Are you mad about Lawrence of Arabia and older long films?

I'm mad at Lawrence of Arabia and Doctor Zhivago.  Those are some long movies.
Title: Re: INDIANA JONES 5
Post by: Ben on July 03, 2016, 04:52:41 PM
*cowardly name calling*
Title: Re: INDIANA JONES 5
Post by: RVR II on July 03, 2016, 05:42:47 PM
*cowardly name calling*
Um.. What was posted originally ???
Title: Re: INDIANA JONES 5
Post by: Edward J Grug III on July 03, 2016, 05:59:17 PM
*cowardly name calling*
Um.. What was posted originally ???

Well, obviously if I wanted it there, I wouldn't have edited the post.

Some homophobic suggestions and threatening violence if he ever saw me. He's very brave from behind an internet avatar on a different continent.

You'd have to be a pretty sad individual to get so upset over someone saying Harrison Ford was old.
Title: Re: INDIANA JONES 5
Post by: RVR II on July 03, 2016, 06:11:50 PM
ooooo :o
Title: Re: INDIANA JONES 5
Post by: Edward J Grug III on July 03, 2016, 06:17:57 PM
(http://iwatchstuff.com/2014/05/27/alan-shemper.jpg)

Quote
When Harrison Ford was at camp, his favorite activity was always arts and crafts. Or, as he used to call it: arts and *farts* and crafts. He used to make drawings... cave drawings! Which is my way of saying he was a cave man. He went to camp so long ago that he can remember saying "sticks and stones may break my bones" and meaning it! He went to camp so long ago that fucking Jesus Christ was his counselor! And his best friend hadn't fully evolved yet! His name was Ug and he walked on all fours! There were two epidemics when he went to camp: head lice, and the plague - the bubonic plague!
Title: Re: INDIANA JONES 5
Post by: Russoguru on July 05, 2016, 06:07:04 PM
Maybe I'm just being cynical, but at this point I just don't see how anymore Indiana Jones movies can be made with Harrison Ford.
Title: Re: INDIANA JONES 5
Post by: ScottotD on July 05, 2016, 06:17:44 PM
It's the same with Bruce Willis, I don't buy him as a psychical threat to anyone under 40 at this stage. 

I thought Red and Looper were great but that was it for me as far as me seeing him as an action hero and not someone cosplaying as ET's Dad unless there's something big to change my mind.
Title: Re: INDIANA JONES 5
Post by: Edward J Grug III on July 06, 2016, 01:44:53 AM
Guys, you're gonna make Ben cry.
Title: Re: INDIANA JONES 5
Post by: Imrahil on July 06, 2016, 03:47:22 AM
I really can't see anyone else doing the role. Young Indy proved that.
Title: Re: INDIANA JONES 5
Post by: Darth Geek on July 06, 2016, 04:49:01 AM
Considering that Indiana Jones is a throwback to the old adventure serials, I'd rather see them make a reboot of one of those characters than just recast Indiana Jones.
Title: Re: INDIANA JONES 5
Post by: Johnny Unusual on July 06, 2016, 07:43:01 AM
Considering that Indiana Jones is a throwback to the old adventure serials, I'd rather see them make a reboot of one of those characters than just recast Indiana Jones.
Works for me.  Spielberg can still direct though.  I know Tintin got a lukewarm reception but I loved it and felt it showed with the right script, Spielberg can still do a great adventure movie.
Title: Re: INDIANA JONES 5
Post by: ScottotD on July 06, 2016, 07:58:34 AM
Nah, I want further adventures.  What shape is Tom Selleck in?
Title: Re: INDIANA JONES 5
Post by: Darth Geek on July 06, 2016, 08:53:02 AM
Nah, I want further adventures.  What shape is Tom Selleck in?
His mustache can probably bench press my car.
Title: Re: INDIANA JONES 5
Post by: Russoguru on July 06, 2016, 12:31:50 PM
His mustache can probably bench press my car.
You're thinking of Chuck Norris's mustache.
Title: Re: INDIANA JONES 5
Post by: ScottotD on July 06, 2016, 08:17:55 PM
His mustache can probably bench press my car.
You're thinking of Chuck Norris's mustache.

Fuck Chuck Norris
Title: Re: INDIANA JONES 5
Post by: Russoguru on July 06, 2016, 08:33:48 PM
 :o But... but... it's Chuck Norris... oh well.
Title: Re: INDIANA JONES 5
Post by: Henry88 on July 07, 2016, 02:41:05 PM
His mustache can probably bench press my car.
You're thinking of Chuck Norris's mustache.

Fuck Chuck Norris
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-LWy5YmHdtBc/U0HPAKb7MWI/AAAAAAAAtBE/YuXeIwwtUmg/s1600/0invasion_usa_gif.gif)
Title: Re: INDIANA JONES 5
Post by: RVR II on July 11, 2018, 01:30:23 PM
‘Indiana Jones 5’ Pushed Back a Year to 2021
https://variety.com/2018/film/news/indiana-jones-5-delayed-2021-1202869755/
Title: Re: INDIANA JONES 5
Post by: Russoguru on July 11, 2018, 05:03:01 PM
I'd rather they recast the role. Chris Pratt would be amazing.