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Title: Windows 10
Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on July 29, 2015, 09:02:48 AM
Anyone got it yet?

If you've reserved a copy it may have been downloading for a while, look for a C:/$Windows.~BT folder. 

My desktop has almost 5GB in there that has downloaded, my laptop only a few hundred megabytes so far.  I want to try it on my laptop first but I may end up trying it on my desktop first if that's the one that goes active first.  You are supposed to have the option of putting it on a USB drive so you can download once and install on multiple computers, but so far I don't see a way to do that.

Edit:  Just went to the windows 10 webpage at Microsoft and there is now a link to download a media creation tool that is supposed to let you create a windows 10 install disk.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Variety of Cells on July 29, 2015, 03:37:44 PM
Edit:  Just went to the windows 10 webpage at Microsoft and there is now a link to download a media creation tool that is supposed to let you create a windows 10 install disk.

Oh yeah?  That's the route I'm going to go.  But I'm not going to do it until this weekend when I have time to fuck around and install a bunch of drivers and what not.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on July 29, 2015, 04:10:54 PM
I downloaded the tool and ran it on my desktop, it asks if you want to update the computer or create installation media.  I used create media and it then asked USB or ISO, I did the USB option and am now running what it made on my laptop.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Variety of Cells on July 29, 2015, 05:44:15 PM
I downloaded the tool and ran it on my desktop, it asks if you want to update the computer or create installation media.  I used create media and it then asked USB or ISO, I did the USB option and am now running what it made on my laptop.

Sweet.  You'll have to let me know how it goes.  I'm excited to start using it again.

Oh, and I see that NVIDIA released updated windows 10 drivers today with directx 12 support, which is nice.  A little meaningless until a game comes out that used directx 12, but still nice.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on July 29, 2015, 06:42:57 PM
On my 2 year old laptop it took about an hour for the update to install.

After about a half hour of messing around with stuff I felt way more comfortable using it vs. after several hours of complete frustration the first time I tried to set up a windows 8 PC.

So still messing around with it but I'll probably update my desktop in a day or 2.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on July 29, 2015, 07:55:12 PM
The automatic scaling when you switch monitors is fantastic.

I'm able to type this sitting 6 feet away with the laptop plugged into my 46" TV instead of standing right in front of it previously when I would use it this way.

For some reason even though the fingerprint scanner shows up as a biometrics device Windows 10 wouldn't use it by default, so I had to reinstall the HP security software (that software was flagged as something that would interfere with the update and had to be uninstalled first).

Start up and shutdown times are really long so far probably because the hard disk on this laptop is pretty slow, really should upgrade it to an SSD.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: BathTub on July 29, 2015, 08:42:05 PM
I'm actually looking forward to this, I am way overdue for a fresh install, my PC is ridiculously slow sometimes, need to blow all the chaff away. My number 1 worry is (always) networking and getting the internet settings correct.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: SJP on July 30, 2015, 11:05:24 AM
I'm hedging my bets.  I'm leaving my desktop as a Windows 7 PC for the time being because it's stable enough, but I was planning on upgrading my laptop away from Windows 8.  Because I don't like Windows 8.  It's weird and scary and makes no sense outside of a touchscreen interface.  But I was also concerned about upgrading immediately in case there are problems, because I use my laptop for way too much to risk it falling apart due to a problematic upgrade or security risks.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on July 30, 2015, 11:29:14 AM
I'm actually looking forward to this, I am way overdue for a fresh install, my PC is ridiculously slow sometimes, need to blow all the chaff away. My number 1 worry is (always) networking and getting the internet settings correct.

From what I've read if you want to do a clean install they say to do the upgrade first and let it activate to get the new product key, then wipe everything and do a clean install.  Otherwise you may have to pay, but you would think during the install you would have the option to put in your windows 7 or 8 product key.

Seems the automatic scaling isn't quite so automatic, if you switch back and forth between the laptop display and the TV some size changes don't take effect unless you log out and log back in.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: d00hickey on July 31, 2015, 05:37:13 PM
I just finished installing it on my rebuilt PC. So far it has been great, just basically an updated Windows 7. It was nice because I was doing a fresh install of Windows 8 and it automatically prompted me to install Windows 10.

Now my only problem is I no longer have the link to all my updated topics on this forum. If anyone has that post it please. Lucas gave it to me initially.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: BathTub on July 31, 2015, 05:42:00 PM
this one?

http://forum.rifftrax.com/index.php?action=unread;all;start=0
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on July 31, 2015, 05:45:15 PM
That one is for all unread posts since your last visit, If you want all unread posts in threads you have posted in it's this one:

http://forum.rifftrax.com/index.php?action=unreadreplies;start=0
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: d00hickey on July 31, 2015, 05:53:37 PM
That one is for all unread posts since your last visit, If you want all unread posts in threads you have posted in it's this one:

http://forum.rifftrax.com/index.php?action=unreadreplies;start=0

That's the one. Thanks a shit load Marty!
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: CJones on August 01, 2015, 03:58:18 PM
I'm torn. I recently had to do a complete reinstall of Windows 7 (long story short: I fucked up my hardware big time). I did the "Reserve Windows 10" thing, and it's ready to install. But I've got things running pretty well right now. The machine boots up in about a minute, and I have no serious glitches outside of Fallout 3 (which is a known issue).

Can anyone give me a good reason why I, running an FX-8350 CPU and GTX-660 GPU, should switch from Windows 7, which I like, to Windows 10? 
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: d00hickey on August 01, 2015, 06:40:50 PM
I don't know for sure if it's the fact I have a new motherboard or that it's Windows 10. But my boot time is about 20 seconds (or less) and all of the games I've run so far perform significantly better. I used to run Wolfenstien the Old Blood at 60fps on high settings with a few things turned down. Now it runs at 80 fps with everything maxed. The Witcher 3 also picked up about 8-10 fps. The one outlier is Victor Vran which seems to perform a little worse. I haven't installed all the games I intend to download so I will update with any future findings. 
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Variety of Cells on August 01, 2015, 07:04:02 PM
I don't know for sure if it's the fact I have a new motherboard or that it's Windows 10. But my boot time is about 20 seconds (or less) and all of the games I've run so far perform significantly better. I used to run Wolfenstien the Old Blood at 60fps on high settings with a few things turned down. Now it runs at 80 fps with everything maxed. The Witcher 3 also picked up about 8-10 fps. The one outlier is Victor Vran which seems to perform a little worse. I haven't installed all the games I intend to download so I will update with any future findings.

Windows 10 definitely boots faster. I had to upgrade before doing a clean install, and the time it took to load all my startup programs was cut down significantly.

Doing a clean install now.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: SJP on August 02, 2015, 02:11:57 PM
Huh.  Well, scratch updating my Windows 7 PC, then.  I could've sworn I had the "Upgrade to Windows 10" icon in the corner, but it's gone now.  And when I went to try Windows to get it put back on, it said "This version of Windows is not eligible."  It's Home Professional, with all updates installed, and a Genuine copy of Windows 7.  I know, because I bought it in-store.  I have no idea why it's no longer eligible.

But I'm in the waiting line on my laptop.  That seems to be going just fine, thankfully...once I can finally get it.

EDIT: Oop, wait again.  I installed a few optional updates, and then my PC said it had three important updates to install.  Windows can't even get its own updates straight.

FURTHER EDIT: Now it's apparently finding my version of Windows OK, but it's now saying the "Get Windows App does not work with this version of Windows."  I'm beginning to wonder what's up with the app, since I have 64-bit Windows 7.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Variety of Cells on August 02, 2015, 04:13:10 PM
Huh.  Well, scratch updating my Windows 7 PC, then.  I could've sworn I had the "Upgrade to Windows 10" icon in the corner, but it's gone now.  And when I went to try Windows to get it put back on, it said "This version of Windows is not eligible."  It's Home Professional, with all updates installed, and a Genuine copy of Windows 7.  I know, because I bought it in-store.  I have no idea why it's no longer eligible.

But I'm in the waiting line on my laptop.  That seems to be going just fine, thankfully...once I can finally get it.

EDIT: Oop, wait again.  I installed a few optional updates, and then my PC said it had three important updates to install.  Windows can't even get its own updates straight.

FURTHER EDIT: Now it's apparently finding my version of Windows OK, but it's now saying the "Get Windows App does not work with this version of Windows."  I'm beginning to wonder what's up with the app, since I have 64-bit Windows 7.

You don't have to wait for the app.  Just go here  https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10 to make an installation dvd or usb drive.  Then, while still in windows 7, run the windows 10 installation to upgrade your PC. 

Just make sure you don't boot from the installer.  You have to run the installer within windows 7 (or 8) to upgrade.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Moseng on August 03, 2015, 02:17:15 AM
this one?

http://forum.rifftrax.com/index.php?action=unread;all;start=0 (http://www.loveandbuyit.com)

Yeah i think they were asking about this one. Thanks for quick response here.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: SJP on August 03, 2015, 06:35:51 AM
I finally, after a few hours, got it all working.  I heard there may have been issues if you download and install Windows 10 when you're in the queue to get it (possible keygen conflicts or something), so I'm perfectly fine riding it out (gives me time to backup my stuff anyway), but if anyone else with Windows 7 runs into the issues I had with no icon, here's what's happening:

1. Make sure to download and run the Windows 10 app tool.  If you just run it from an internet temp file, it won't work right.
2. Make sure all the various updates are done.  If you have no icon, the app tool will tell you which one is missing and let you download it manually.
3. Finally...and this is the weird one...Internet Explorer 11 HAS to be installed on your system.  If you don't, the "Please Wait..." window will pop up and disappear in a few seconds.  Ironic how Microsoft is so keen to get rid of any mention of Internet Explorer, but in order to get Windows 10 with its new browser, they force you to have the old one installed simply to keep a window open.

But, at least now my two PCs are ready for 10.  All I need now is a solid state drive to boot from and my PC should be in business.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on August 03, 2015, 06:47:10 PM
After several days the startup/shutdown times on my laptop have gotten much shorter, so now it's faster than they were with windows 7, not sure what sped things up?

Still haven't upgraded my desktop, I really don't want to lose my desktop gadgets (weather and Core Temp).  There are programs that will add them back but I'm not sure how secure/safe they are.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Variety of Cells on August 04, 2015, 08:28:45 PM
Two little things I really appreciate:

You have two monitors and your desktop background is a slideshow?  Hey, how about we let you have a different background on each monitor. Cause ya know, it's not like you'd even hang the same poster on your wall twice.

My computer actually goes to sleep on it's own again.  Perhaps I have yet to install the program or device that was keeping my computer awake, but so far I'm happy it's sleeping properly again.

EDIT:  Three things.  Welcome back 'Up one level' button.  Oh how I missed you, ever since XP (never used Vista, so I'm not sure if it had it). 
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on August 06, 2015, 09:12:52 PM
 I tried out the 8gadgetpack program on my laptop and it seemed OK, so I upgraded my big PC to win10 and still have my gadgets on the desktop.

 Getting sound working was a pain, had to disable the sound for the HDMI port on my video card to get the motherboard sound to work.  The speakers had the green check mark as the current output but no sound until I disabled the nvidia device(s).

 No settings apps were working, I could get into parts of the control panel but trying to access most settings would open a window for a fraction of a second and close, it took a lot of searches to find the article at Microsoft that had a download to fix it.

 So after a few hours wasted on those issues everything seems to be working fine. 

 Only thing I'm not happy with are the colors, the color options are extremely limited, and no customizable colors, WTF?
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: SJP on August 07, 2015, 12:07:05 PM
My ship came in...on my laptop, at least.  Looks like all my data is intact, too.  Easiest Windows upgrade I've ever done.

Of course, I've only had half an hour with it, but I do like the look of the interface much better than 8.  And the boot time is lovely.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: d00hickey on August 09, 2015, 12:39:32 AM
Wow, over a week of using windows 10 and putting it through it's paces I could not be happier. I hadn't really thought about it until today but I have had zero problems. I had more day to day problems with Windows 7. The biggest thing I appreciate is how effective the search function is. Literally anything you can think to customize, or modify windows can be searched for in easy basic English.

There are also many more little tweaks that add up quickly. An example would be when you have two windows open and you want to scroll down one or the other with the scroll wheel or arrow keys. On windows 7 you would have to click on some section of blank space you wanted to scroll on. Now it's just which ever window your cursor is over scrolls. I know this sounds like a really small thing, and it is, but it's stuff like this that has been improved that all adds up to much smoother experience. 

I would say this is the best windows experience I have ever had.

I made a mistake when installing it though. I accidentally hit express installation and I figured 'what ever' at the time. Now I'm finding out that there is likely a bunch of privacy stuff in the express install I would have liked to disable. Oh well I'll find them all at some point and fix that.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Variety of Cells on August 09, 2015, 06:57:33 AM
The search function is a big plus for me too. Not only is it broad and effective, but it's super fast too.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on August 09, 2015, 10:18:48 AM
I made a mistake when installing it though. I accidentally hit express installation and I figured 'what ever' at the time. Now I'm finding out that there is likely a bunch of privacy stuff in the express install I would have liked to disable. Oh well I'll find them all at some point and fix that.

I did the custom install and still had to go and change a ton of privacy settings, and I'm still having to reset file associations even though I told the custom install not to change any...  So the express install might change a few more associations and turn on a couple of cortana options you might want off, but custom only gives you a small list of options. 

I never had any problems with 7, so I'm seeing little nagging things in 10 that keep me from saying it's better.

It would seem quite a few little things that used to be standard in windows are now going to be subscriptions, you have to pay to get solitaire back to the way it was, and it looks like DVD player will be a subscription as well, it's free for now for most people but probably not for long.  Of course VLC is free and better than any of the windows players, but the freecell in win7 was really nice, I haven't found an alternative to that I like.

And I'm still not real happy with the colors, I found a hack to make the title bar match your highlight color so that glaring white bar is now gone, I really don't understand why they took the ability to customize all your colors away, unless that is going to be a subscription thing as well.  I've been reading there are some registry hacks to change colors but it sounds like figuring out the hex code of the exact color you want might be a pain.  I prefer an off white background for text, the bright white is annoying right now.

I was having random boots with no USB, removed the intel usb 3 stuff for windows 7 and it's been fine since but only a handful of boots since then.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: RVR II on August 10, 2015, 02:44:14 PM
So my buddy CJ (that lives in my Mega Shed next door) tried out Winders 10 for a few days and liked it a lot until..
Reading through some 45 pages of Privacy stuff that it could access and send out to others, he tried to uninstall it and it would not uninstall properly so he wiped it with BCWIPED twice and still would not let him reinstall Windows 8 and after a 3rd try wiping the hard drive with 7 full passes all weekend long, he was able to get Windows 8 reinstalled and now he's still trying to get things (programs, and other software) back to where they were on his computer.. It even said his copy of Windows 8 wqsn't a legal copy when he bought it legally with an activation key.
Playing games after a while would start showing pop-ups, his contact list was 'copied', and now his tablet won't work right after connecting it up to his PC with Windows 10 - All his electrical stuff from work for the last 2 years is gone now so he's highly pissed!
No wonder they're 'giving' it away :o
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on August 10, 2015, 03:38:39 PM
Did he use the button in windows 10 under settings/update/recovery to go back to his old operating system?  I've only seen a few reports of people using it but no complaints about it not working.  Maybe he wiped the windows.old folder or deleted the windows 10 install folder, you need both still there to revert.

Doesn't make sense at all that wiping the hard drive didn't work the first time, sounds like serious user error.

There are a LOT of settings you've got to sort through if you want to turn off all the talking back to microsoft windows 10 does, took me probably half an hour to sort through them all.

Funny, I just looked at that recovery page and it says going back to windows 7 will only be available for a month after the upgrade to windows 10.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: RVR II on August 10, 2015, 04:11:01 PM
Did he use the button in windows 10 under settings/update/recovery to go back to his old operating system?  I've only seen a few reports of people using it but no complaints about it not working.  Maybe he wiped the windows.old folder or deleted the windows 10 install folder, you need both still there to revert.

Doesn't make sense at all that wiping the hard drive didn't work the first time, sounds like serious user error.

There are a LOT of settings you've got to sort through if you want to turn off all the talking back to microsoft windows 10 does, took me probably half an hour to sort through them all.

Funny, I just looked at that recovery page and it says going back to windows 7 will only be available for a month after the upgrade to windows 10.
I'll be honest.. I have no idea.
That's what I got out of his rambling rage and don't know what he did or didn't do..
Either way, I'll proly just wait till I'm forced to upgrade :-\
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on August 11, 2015, 12:39:51 PM
Found a download that gets the win7 games working in win10, so I've got my good freecell game back.

And I finally got around to attaching one of my 3D printers, and windows sees it as a printer, pretty weird to have a 3D print queue.  Options for print settings are so limited I won't ever use it, but it's a start.

So, down to the only thing I don't like are the colors, eventually someone should come up with a theme editor...
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Lunquewill on August 14, 2015, 02:50:38 PM
Windows 10 does boot faster and takes up less drive space. If you have a Ceton TV tuner, though, note that Windows 10 does not have Windows Media Center. Anyone who built their own DVR with that needs to stay with Windows 7 or Windows 8 Pro.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: CJones on August 16, 2015, 01:07:56 PM
I'm liking Win 10 quite a bit, for the most part. But I do have a few complaints:

1) It's ugly. I know, this is a very minor complaint, but I loved the way Win 7 looked. Microsoft has stated that they felt Win 7 looked "dated", but dated doesn't necessarily mean bad. Win 10 looks so blocky and austere. And there are very few options for making it look any better

2) I've had it freeze up twice so far. As in "time for a hard reset" frozen. I'd never seen Win 7 completely lock up (with the exception of Fallout 3, which is a known issue with the game). So, more system crashes over the course of a few weeks than I ever had during the entire life of Win 7.

3) Stop asking if I want to allow so-and-so to make changes. I literally just tried to change the setting under "User Account Control" and it asked me if I wanted to allow Windows to change one of its own settings :o Do I seriously have to turn this off completely? Win 7 was a lot less paranoid., and the settings are exactly the same.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Variety of Cells on August 16, 2015, 02:30:13 PM
Having a weird issue with my Saitek x52 joystick, where it would work ok while plugged in, but when I unplug it my mouse would start to lag and be unable to click on anything. 

The only place I could find similar symptoms is with a teamspeak incompatibility, but I don't have teamspeak installed. 

Was frustrating enough that I tried to restore my PC to factory settings.  Eventually had to use the install disc to do it, but it didn't help.  Same issue persisted, even before I installed other programs that potentially could be causing a conflict.

In the process I corrupted my windows install because of all the hard resets I had to do when my mouse would lock up.  Couldn't repair my install, so I installed windows 10 on another drive so that I could access my files on C to back them up, then wiped that drive to do another install of windows 10. 

Forgot to back up the harvest moon game I was playing, one of the two things I actually needed to back up, and my joystick still has the conflict.

Soooooo great.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: d00hickey on August 16, 2015, 02:41:29 PM
That sounds like an epic pain in the ass. I haven't plugged in my X55 yet. It has a very different interface so I hope it does not have the same problem. I would definitely blame Mad Catz/Saitek for that. It sounds like they couldn't be bothered testing their product with Windows 10.

The X52 is the most popular flight stick. Have you seen anything in forums, maybe the Elite Dangerous forum, about this same problem?
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Variety of Cells on August 16, 2015, 02:46:08 PM
That sounds like an epic pain in the ass. I haven't plugged in my X55 yet. It has a very different interface so I hope it does not have the same problem. I would definitely blame Mad Catz/Saitek for that. It sounds like they couldn't be bothered testing their product with Windows 10.

The X52 is the most popular flight stick. Have you seen anything in forums, maybe the Elite Dangerous forum, about this same problem?

I thought I would have seen something at least.  But like I said, that teamspeak forum had the only similar symptoms.  I've sent a ticket to saitek.  But it might be something confined to my system.  I'm sure that's what they'll say.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on August 16, 2015, 03:59:15 PM
2) I've had it freeze up twice so far. As in "time for a hard reset" frozen. I'd never seen Win 7 completely lock up (with the exception of Fallout 3, which is a known issue with the game). So, more system crashes over the course of a few weeks than I ever had during the entire life of Win 7.

In the first few hours after updating both my desktop and laptop I had a few of these, since then my desktop has been fine but the other day my laptop had bad freezes, with the startup repair system saying it couldn't fix it, but then it just started working fine.  If it happens again on the laptop I might revert it back to win7.

Installed a fingerprint reader for my desktop and win10 recognized it and I can use it for login without any special software.

Got this one:

http://smile.amazon.com/dp/B005VF62KG

A Verifi P2000, seems $50 or more is the break point for one of these having good reviews, all the ones I found under $50 had real bad ratio of good vs. bad reviews.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: CJones on August 17, 2015, 04:40:35 PM
Forgot to back up the harvest moon game I was playing, one of the two things I actually needed to back up, and my joystick still has the conflict.

I failed to back up my Dark Souls 2 save. Guess what game on Steam doesn't have Cloud saves... 45 hours down the drain  :grr:
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Variety of Cells on August 17, 2015, 04:59:39 PM
Well at least saitek responded saying they are working on windows 10 drivers. So that's good at least.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on August 19, 2015, 08:40:48 AM
What ever update was pushed last night caused both my systems to lock up after login.

Took 3 forced power off/on cycles to get my laptop to start working, 2 for my desktop.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Bob on August 19, 2015, 11:02:11 AM
Installed it last night when the pop up appeared that says it is available to download.

When it restarted with Windows 10, Norton had a pop up and said to get the new version that works with Windows 10.  So I did and no issues. 

Not really sure what this version does better, but time will tell.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: d00hickey on August 19, 2015, 03:32:03 PM
I'm still yet to experience any problems whatsoever. Hopefully that trend continues. I did a full sweep with privacy and removed some things from the registry to improve the privacy. You can't use Cortana with these settings but I have no intentions of using it anyway.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on August 19, 2015, 03:41:10 PM
I have also turned off enough stuff that cortana won't work, but also have no interest in it.

You'd think there would be various privacy levels where you could still use it, but it seems if you want it at all you've got to let Microsoft snoop on just about everything you do.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: BathTub on August 19, 2015, 07:29:34 PM
What is annoying now is all the nagging pop-ups telling me to upgrade. I want to wait a few weeks, but I get almost hourly reminders now, there is a 'reschedule' option, with 2 days in the future as an option, but it clearly ignores that.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: d00hickey on August 19, 2015, 09:13:39 PM
What is annoying now is all the nagging pop-ups telling me to upgrade. I want to wait a few weeks, but I get almost hourly reminders now, there is a 'reschedule' option, with 2 days in the future as an option, but it clearly ignores that.

This is from http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/how-to/windows/how-remove-windows-10-nag-messages-3614204/

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Go to Control Panel, and then Windows Update. Check in the bottom left corner for a link to Installed Updates. Look down the list for a Windows patch named KB3035583, which can be uninstalled by right-clicking on the entry and selecting Uninstall. Windows being Windows, you will then be prompted to completely restart your computer. But once you do, the Windows 10 icon should be absent from your Taskbar's notification area.

Bear in mind that you'll also have to switch from automatic to manual Windows updates. Otherwise Windows will simply reinstall the update you've just uninstalled.

It's a temporary fix, but it will get the messages to stop.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: BathTub on August 28, 2015, 01:20:03 PM
Indeed it did!

By installing windows 10.

I selected uninstall, then it said 'you must restart', and then it restarted into installing Windows 10!
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: d00hickey on August 28, 2015, 02:13:45 PM
Indeed it did!

By installing windows 10.

I selected uninstall, then it said 'you must restart', and then it restarted into installing Windows 10!

I'm sorry, I didn't do it it myself and the procedure made sense to me.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: BathTub on August 28, 2015, 02:47:34 PM
It was pretty weird. My main reason for staying away is Dirty Bomb isn't 'Windows 10' certified. Things seem fine so far, but haven't tried the game yet.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: d00hickey on August 29, 2015, 03:49:35 PM
I've played Dirty Bomb at least 5 times since the upgrade with no problems.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on September 21, 2015, 04:02:07 PM
Just did the upgrade on a new laptop the department is giving someone as a retirement gift, chose the option to not keep anything, and it really did wipe out all the bloatware that came installed on the laptop, nice clean looking install without having to do any extra work.

Still getting a freeze after login about every 5th time I turn on my home PC, so far pressing the reset button to reboot has worked every time.  I am so spoiled with that PC, having to wait those extra 25 seconds seems like forever.  ;D
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: BathTub on September 21, 2015, 09:44:53 PM
trying to test on Edge and now have the  "This page is having a problem" error, which I can't solve, quite frustrating.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: RVR II on October 23, 2015, 04:42:38 PM
Should you wish to uninstall the Windows 10 icon in the bottom-right tray..

Click Programs, in its options select View installed updates. Use the search box in the top right corner of your Window to find KB3035583, which is the name of the update you want to remove. Once this update is displayed, click on it with the right mouse button and select Uninstall. Restart your computer.

I'm not ready to 'upgrade' and I'm sick of those damn popups trying to get me to download and install it!!
 :angry:
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: d00hickey on October 23, 2015, 06:23:52 PM
Should you wish to uninstall the Windows 10 icon in the bottom-right tray..

Click Programs, in its options select View installed updates. Use the search box in the top right corner of your Window to find KB3035583, which is the name of the update you want to remove. Once this update is displayed, click on it with the right mouse button and select Uninstall. Restart your computer.

I'm not ready to 'upgrade' and I'm sick of those damn popups trying to get me to download and install it!!
 :angry:

Be careful, this is exactly what I suggested Bathtub do and it may have forced a Windows 10 install on his system.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: RVR II on October 23, 2015, 06:56:11 PM
Should you wish to uninstall the Windows 10 icon in the bottom-right tray..

Click Programs, in its options select View installed updates. Use the search box in the top right corner of your Window to find KB3035583, which is the name of the update you want to remove. Once this update is displayed, click on it with the right mouse button and select Uninstall. Restart your computer.

I'm not ready to 'upgrade' and I'm sick of those damn popups trying to get me to download and install it!!
 :angry:

Be careful, this is exactly what I suggested Bathtub do and it may have forced a Windows 10 install on his system.
So far, so good :o
I'll keep an eye out for that particular update so it doesn't re-download
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Gandalf Lundgren on October 23, 2015, 08:31:46 PM
Serious bug with me. Sometimes Edge will randomly crash & this will make the Edge icon & Start icon inoperable. The only way to fix it is with right click on Start icon & restart the PC. This has happened about six or seven times.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: BathTub on October 26, 2015, 09:46:40 PM
Should you wish to uninstall the Windows 10 icon in the bottom-right tray..

Click Programs, in its options select View installed updates. Use the search box in the top right corner of your Window to find KB3035583, which is the name of the update you want to remove. Once this update is displayed, click on it with the right mouse button and select Uninstall. Restart your computer.

I'm not ready to 'upgrade' and I'm sick of those damn popups trying to get me to download and install it!!
 :angry:

Be careful, this is exactly what I suggested Bathtub do and it may have forced a Windows 10 install on his system.

Yep, exactly what I did too, it was very weird.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: RVR II on October 27, 2015, 04:04:17 AM
Should you wish to uninstall the Windows 10 icon in the bottom-right tray..

Click Programs, in its options select View installed updates. Use the search box in the top right corner of your Window to find KB3035583, which is the name of the update you want to remove. Once this update is displayed, click on it with the right mouse button and select Uninstall. Restart your computer.

I'm not ready to 'upgrade' and I'm sick of those damn popups trying to get me to download and install it!!
 :angry:

Be careful, this is exactly what I suggested Bathtub do and it may have forced a Windows 10 install on his system.

Yep, exactly what I did too, it was very weird.
Hmm.. Mine is still Win 7 and the 10 icon is gone.. Maybe I got lucky :o
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: RVR II on October 30, 2015, 03:55:08 PM
I was having issues getting updates to download on a couple of laptops I bought to take to Mexico to resell in December for Christmas and the next thing I know, both started installing Windows 10..
Guess I missed that KB3035583 update
I thought about trying to uninstall it but then I started thinking.. These are gonna be resold anyway so why bother..
In fact, I may actually be able to get a few extra Pesos (and Dollars in exchange) for them with the new 10 OS on them. :o

What do you all think?
I mean even though the 10 OS is free, would you pay more for a desktop/laptop with the 10 OS already installed than one with a Windows 7 OS ???
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on October 30, 2015, 04:11:03 PM
Well, if the internet is as bad as you say it is down in Mexico, it would take forever to download and install windows 10, so people that want 10 might pay a little extra.  maybe?
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: RVR II on October 30, 2015, 04:15:06 PM
Well, if the internet is as bad as you say it is down in Mexico, it would take forever to download and install windows 10, so people that want 10 might pay a little extra.  maybe?
Oh yeah, DSL modems are still the norm there.
But a lot of the OSs there are pirated versions so bringing legit Win 10 OS laptops may add some value :-\
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on December 03, 2015, 12:03:23 AM
The massive update to a new build of Windows 10 tonight kind of pissed me off, and makes me wonder how things are going to go with Windows in the future.

It killed off a few of my programs saying they were not compatible with this version of Windows, when I reinstalled them they seem to work fine.  It took some programs off my start menu, they were still installed but I had to go find them and put them back in the start menu.

Just went through the privacy settings, at least it doesn't look like any of the stuff I turned off was turned back on.

This is a bit disturbing, since you can't turn off updates in Windows 10, only "defer" them.  This is the first sign that they could break stuff you have running by forcing a major update. 
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Parker_Hylton on December 03, 2015, 08:51:23 AM
This is a bit disturbing, since you can't turn off updates in Windows 10, only "defer" them.  This is the first sign that they could break stuff you have running by forcing a major update. 
Yeah, I have a huge problem with the security portion, whereas the provider (Microsoft) thinks that they know better than you, as in, you're told you can turn stuff off and on, but nearly everything you can turn off still runs in the background.  I specifically said during install that I wanted Cortana off.  Guess what?  You are allowed to turn Cortana to "off", but it still runs in the background, spying on everything you do.  That's not the only part, there were others, I can't remember all the crap I disabled but still found running later.

On the other hand, I found out with 7.5 hours of extra work, that Windows 10 does not enable safe mode by default, so if you have driver issues that are preventing a successful install, you can't boot into safe mode to fix them until you...successfully install.  Sigh.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on December 03, 2015, 09:01:36 AM
Yeah, the way to get into safe mode is a pain.  Actually there are several ways to do it, all of them more of a pain than simply hitting F8 when the machine boots.....
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: BathTub on December 03, 2015, 11:58:52 AM
My problem at the moment is something is crashing during shut down, which halts the shut down as it requires me to manually close something. libjingle, which I've narrowed down to an issue with trillian, skype or both.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Parker_Hylton on December 03, 2015, 12:40:15 PM
My problem at the moment is something is crashing during shut down, which halts the shut down as it requires me to manually close something. libjingle, which I've narrowed down to an issue with trillian, skype or both.
Interesting, because when I was researching my upgrade/start issues (which turned out to be onboard sound (Realtek) drivers) I saw several issues people had with Skype.  Might want to start there.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: BathTub on December 03, 2015, 01:30:25 PM
I very rarely use it, so I should just stop it loading on start up then, might be easier said then done since Skype is one of those infamously stubborn programmes that does what it wants.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on December 22, 2015, 09:14:38 PM
These last few Windows 10 updates have really messed up my laptop, half the time when it starts up the fingerprint reader isn't working, and about 1/3 of the times it starts up it's crashing right after logging in. 

Never had so many PC problems until I started using 10 on both my desktop and laptop, it is way less stable than XP or 7 that ran great.

Arrrrgh, now it is crashing 100% of the time on my laptop, trying to go to a restore point but it's been sitting working for 15 minutes with the hard drive LED on full blast....
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: d00hickey on December 23, 2015, 03:12:06 AM
These last few Windows 10 updates have really messed up my laptop, half the time when it starts up the fingerprint reader isn't working, and about 1/3 of the times it starts up it's crashing right after logging in. 

Never had so many PC problems until I started using 10 on both my desktop and laptop, it is way less stable than XP or 7 that ran great.

Arrrrgh, now it is crashing 100% of the time on my laptop, trying to go to a restore point but it's been sitting working for 15 minutes with the hard drive LED on full blast....

I have now installed Windows 10 on three systems with no issues. All installs I did were clean (not updated), maybe this is where a lot of your problems have come from. I installed it on 7 year old HP desktop, a 5 year old Acer laptop, and my custom built desktop.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on December 23, 2015, 08:28:17 AM
These last few Windows 10 updates have really messed up my laptop, half the time when it starts up the fingerprint reader isn't working, and about 1/3 of the times it starts up it's crashing right after logging in. 

Never had so many PC problems until I started using 10 on both my desktop and laptop, it is way less stable than XP or 7 that ran great.

Arrrrgh, now it is crashing 100% of the time on my laptop, trying to go to a restore point but it's been sitting working for 15 minutes with the hard drive LED on full blast....

I have now installed Windows 10 on three systems with no issues. All installs I did were clean (not updated), maybe this is where a lot of your problems have come from. I installed it on 7 year old HP desktop, a 5 year old Acer laptop, and my custom built desktop.

That could be it, I spent an hour and finally got the laptop back to normal.

Maybe next week I'll do a clean install on it, the laptop I upgraded for someone at work has been fine, for that upgrade I used the option to wipe all old data.  Of course that means spending hours reinstalling all my programs.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: d00hickey on December 25, 2015, 11:42:46 AM
These last few Windows 10 updates have really messed up my laptop, half the time when it starts up the fingerprint reader isn't working, and about 1/3 of the times it starts up it's crashing right after logging in. 

Never had so many PC problems until I started using 10 on both my desktop and laptop, it is way less stable than XP or 7 that ran great.

Arrrrgh, now it is crashing 100% of the time on my laptop, trying to go to a restore point but it's been sitting working for 15 minutes with the hard drive LED on full blast....

I have now installed Windows 10 on three systems with no issues. All installs I did were clean (not updated), maybe this is where a lot of your problems have come from. I installed it on 7 year old HP desktop, a 5 year old Acer laptop, and my custom built desktop.

That could be it, I spent an hour and finally got the laptop back to normal.

Maybe next week I'll do a clean install on it, the laptop I upgraded for someone at work has been fine, for that upgrade I used the option to wipe all old data.  Of course that means spending hours reinstalling all my programs.

I'll bet that's it. I'm sure Microsoft has done their damnedest to imply upgrades are problem free but that has never been the case with OS installs in the past.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on December 28, 2015, 03:49:24 PM
I just found out about the sfc and dism commands you can run from an elevated command prompt.

Running them found some corrupt system files, between the 2 commands they claim to have fixed the files.  Time will tell if those files were causing the freezes I was getting on startup.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: RVR II on February 06, 2016, 12:29:34 PM
So it looks like I will have to upgrade my office computers to Win 10 by July 29 or run the risk of having to buy the OS for $120 each PC.. :o
http://www.zdnet.com/article/what-happens-free-windows-10-upgrades-after-july-29-2016/
I have at least 6 computers that will need to be upgraded and then my 2 more powerful computers will have to come later because of all the programs and software I have loaded on them :-\
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: d00hickey on February 08, 2016, 02:15:51 PM
So it looks like I will have to upgrade my office computers to Win 10 by July 29 or run the risk of having to buy the OS for $120 each PC.. :o
http://www.zdnet.com/article/what-happens-free-windows-10-upgrades-after-july-29-2016/
I have at least 6 computers that will need to be upgraded and then my 2 more powerful computers will have to come later because of all the programs and software I have loaded on them :-\

I have serious doubts that Windows 10 will ever be anything but free. Microsoft is so desperate to get everyone on it. I could be completely wrong though. I have no intention of ever switching my laptop off of 7.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Pak-Man on February 08, 2016, 02:53:27 PM
Not desperate enough to give it to vista users...
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: RVR II on February 08, 2016, 03:42:10 PM
So it looks like I will have to upgrade my office computers to Win 10 by July 29 or run the risk of having to buy the OS for $120 each PC.. :o
http://www.zdnet.com/article/what-happens-free-windows-10-upgrades-after-july-29-2016/
I have at least 6 computers that will need to be upgraded and then my 2 more powerful computers will have to come later because of all the programs and software I have loaded on them :-\

I have serious doubts that Windows 10 will ever be anything but free. Microsoft is so desperate to get everyone on it. I could be completely wrong though. I have no intention of ever switching my laptop off of 7.
I will keep my 2 main computers on Win 7 as long as possible but my office computers will be required to be upgraded due to my tax software requirements and unless that deadline gets extended, I'll be getting started on these 10 upgrades very soon :-\
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: RVR II on March 11, 2016, 01:01:04 PM
Ok so I got 2 computers back from my friend with Windows 10 loaded on them and figured I'd get started loading multiple years of tax software, but first I wanted to make sure the scanner and printers would work..
Both loaded with the existing drivers that worked on Windows 7 but neither can communicate with each other; computer/scanner, computer/printer.. Uninstalled the drivers for both several times but no luck. :-[
The scanners are Visioneer and run off of Vista drivers. Same with Lexmark.
Called Lexmark about the Z715 printers and they want to charge me $119 dollars which would only cover 2 computers and there's no guarantee they can fix the problem! I have 9 total!! I told them I'll replace them with another brand cheaper than that!

So, my question is: What brand flatbed scanner and printers would work on Windows 10 best?
Plug and Play would be nice but need something affordable for individual desk computer setups..
A combination setup like this
https://www.dealscube.com/listing/hp-envy-5660-wireless-all-in-one-color-inkjet-photo-printer-f8b04a/21384?gclid=CjwKEAiA9om3BRDpzvihsdGnhTwSJAAkSewLwJv2yGl1FcmKnpjIzdvKBgXHd1qvU_wuYQhBwusKsxoC5a_w_wcB
would work so long as it had a flatbed scanner to place worn or fraid original documents like birth certificates, passports, etc. that cannot be fed into a roller type scanner setup that could jam..



Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: d00hickey on March 12, 2016, 01:25:07 AM
My computer has been doing some strange things since the last update. Every third or fourth time it goes to sleep I wake it to find my monitor or my mouse buttons won't wake with it. If the monitor doesn't come on I have to hard boot it. I thought it might be a recent Nvidia driver but that was before my first mouse incident. I haven't noticed anything else weird but I was curious if anyone else was getting weird problems from the recent updates.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: RVR II on March 29, 2016, 06:28:49 PM
Update:
Got my Lexmark Z-715 printers to work on Windows 10 along with my 'Loaded Baked Potato' skin :P
My Visioneer 7400, 9420, & 9520 flatbed scanners will work on 10 using the OneTouch driver that worked on Vista and Windows 7 but the scanners will not work using the Fax and Scan Wizard so I have to scan them in OneTouch, then use another program like Paint or Windows Picture Viewer (?) then crop the scanned image as needed and rename it.

And it's not recommended to use a 40GB hard drive because Win 10 uses between 25 - 30GB of space :o
Luckily I had a spare 500GB Western Digital on hand to replace it 8)
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: RVR II on April 17, 2016, 11:15:51 AM
Went ahead and upgraded my entertainment computer from Windows 7 to Windows 10 a little while ago..
Went well for the most part but now I get some .dll error at boot-up and the HDMI audio no longer works.. Had to change from HDMI and use a DVI to VGA adapter on my video card to my 55 inch Vizio for my audio to work through my receiver for surround sound.
Not a big deal, just inconvenient :-\
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on April 17, 2016, 03:12:43 PM
I'd look for updated video drivers for the card, but if it's old you may be stuck with it the way it is.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: RVR II on April 17, 2016, 03:22:00 PM
I'd look for updated video drivers for the card, but if it's old you may be stuck with it the way it is.
Already did updates but it didn't fix the issue.. :(
The computer is pretty modern.. Play GTA 5 on it but now my game controller is apparently not compatible with Win 10 :-\
I'll probably let my IT guru friend take a look at it this week.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: pstokely on May 19, 2016, 04:57:32 AM
has anyone had any trouble with reauthoring using the guides posted on here?
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on August 04, 2016, 07:33:10 PM
The big anniversary update wasted my evening, takes about as long to install as a new installation, and I had to reinstall my 2 programs that give me back windows 7 games and gadgets...

Going through the privacy stuff, looks like it didn't turn anything on that was off, but did add a few more things to turn off.

Oh, and WTF is with swapping the clock and the notification center?  I ended up turning off the icon for the notification center since I don't use it and you can't customize the order of the icons in that area of the taskbar...
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: RVR II on August 05, 2016, 04:08:55 AM
has anyone had any trouble with reauthoring using the guides posted on here?
Not so far, though I use a different method than most :o

I had to reinstall my 2 programs that give me back windows 7 games and gadgets...
I wasn't aware of this! :o
I would Love to get my Star Wars rotating Death Star clock back!
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on August 05, 2016, 07:16:20 AM
I had to reinstall my 2 programs that give me back windows 7 games and gadgets...
I wasn't aware of this! :o
I would Love to get my Star Wars rotating Death Star clock back!

I use this program to get my weather and Core Temp gadgets into windows 10:

http://8gadgetpack.net/

It comes with way more than 8, and lets you install more.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: RVR II on August 05, 2016, 10:02:24 AM
I had to reinstall my 2 programs that give me back windows 7 games and gadgets...
I wasn't aware of this! :o
I would Love to get my Star Wars rotating Death Star clock back!

I use this program to get my weather and Core Temp gadgets into windows 10:

http://8gadgetpack.net/

It comes with way more than 8, and lets you install more.
Awesome! Thanks for the link 8)
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: RVR II on August 05, 2016, 11:34:04 AM
Cool It Works! :o
Both my Death Star clock and my HAL9000 gadgets are back :highfive:
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: mwsinoo on September 26, 2016, 11:26:52 PM
I upgraded win 10 from Windows 8.  Personally, I think it is much better than windows 8. Previously, I tried very hard to recover my windows 8 password.  Now, it only takes 10 minutes to recover windows 10 password (http://www.uukeys.com/reset-windows-10-password.html) without disk. This is a quite impressive advantage over windows 8.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: d00hickey on September 27, 2016, 08:06:06 PM
I upgraded win 10 from Windows 8.  Personally, I think it is much better than windows 8

Windows ME is better than 8  :P
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Pak-Man on September 28, 2016, 10:24:06 AM
It's clear when they did Windows 8 that Microsoft was convinced we'd only be using tablets by now. But when you're using it on a PC, it is the absolute worst. The start menu that fills up the whole screen, the little menus that pull up when you mouse too quickly along the edge of the screen. I have to use it at work, and I'm constantly having to work around it, rather than use it.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on September 28, 2016, 12:04:45 PM
It's clear when they did Windows 8 that Microsoft was convinced we'd only be using tablets by now. But when you're using it on a PC, it is the absolute worst. The start menu that fills up the whole screen, the little menus that pull up when you mouse too quickly along the edge of the screen. I have to use it at work, and I'm constantly having to work around it, rather than use it.

When you have to use help to figure out how to do a simple task with a mouse that means the OS has failed....

I think it may have been a push to get companies to do touchscreens for desktops, several companies even did it, the ergonomics of that is horrible, having to reach up to swipe on the screen was never a good idea.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: RVR II on September 28, 2016, 01:53:41 PM
Just had a big update that installed on my laptop a little while ago that reset all my settings  :angry:
I'm just glad it didn't screw up the boot up process like what happened before..
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: CJones on September 29, 2016, 11:44:25 AM
Just had a big update that installed on my laptop a little while ago that reset all my settings  :angry:
I'm just glad it didn't screw up the boot up process like what happened before..

God damn Windows 10 "upgrade" screwed up my overclock settings, and when I tried to change them back, the computer got stuck in an endless boot cycle. And I had JUST gotten them stable like 2 days ago. Flippin' hell, I "love" coming home from surgery to find that Microsoft has been screwing around with my computer without my knowledge or consent.  :grr:
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: RVR II on September 29, 2016, 12:16:20 PM
Just had a big update that installed on my laptop a little while ago that reset all my settings  :angry:
I'm just glad it didn't screw up the boot up process like what happened before..

God damn Windows 10 "upgrade" screwed up my overclock settings, and when I tried to change them back, the computer got stuck in an endless boot cycle. And I had JUST gotten them stable like 2 days ago. Flippin' hell, I "love" coming home from surgery to find that Microsoft has been screwing around with my computer without my knowledge or consent.  :grr:
Yeah This is pretty fucked up that you can't control what installs and when to install them..
My main computer still runs Windows 7 Ultimate and I have no plans to upgrade it to 10 till 7 expires because of BS like this >:(
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Variety of Cells on September 29, 2016, 12:38:56 PM
Just had a big update that installed on my laptop a little while ago that reset all my settings  :angry:
I'm just glad it didn't screw up the boot up process like what happened before..

God damn Windows 10 "upgrade" screwed up my overclock settings, and when I tried to change them back, the computer got stuck in an endless boot cycle. And I had JUST gotten them stable like 2 days ago. Flippin' hell, I "love" coming home from surgery to find that Microsoft has been screwing around with my computer without my knowledge or consent.  :grr:

That really blows. Were you over clocking through som kind of software or through the bios?  Cause if it was through the bios it seems really weird that windows would be able to touch it.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: CJones on September 29, 2016, 12:57:47 PM
Just had a big update that installed on my laptop a little while ago that reset all my settings  :angry:
I'm just glad it didn't screw up the boot up process like what happened before..

God damn Windows 10 "upgrade" screwed up my overclock settings, and when I tried to change them back, the computer got stuck in an endless boot cycle. And I had JUST gotten them stable like 2 days ago. Flippin' hell, I "love" coming home from surgery to find that Microsoft has been screwing around with my computer without my knowledge or consent.  :grr:

That really blows. Were you over clocking through som kind of software or through the bios?  Cause if it was through the bios it seems really weird that windows would be able to touch it.

It was through AMD Overdrive. I have an FX-8350 4.0 GHz that I had overclocked to 4.5 Ghz. If I cut the power, it will boot normally, but without the Overdrive settings. As soon as I try to apply the Overdrive settings I'd been using, it starts resetting itself for some reason. My GPU overclock seems unaffected, so at least there's that.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: RVR II on November 02, 2016, 02:53:27 PM
Just friggin lovely >:(
http://www.theverge.com/2016/10/31/13481502/windows-vulnerability-sandbox-google-microsoft-disclosure
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: RobThom on February 26, 2017, 11:27:45 AM
Its flossy of you dont fool around with it

If you dick around with it the start menu disappears and it crashes down like a house of cards

Its a delicate bitch

I've tried it for the 5th or 6th time and back to 7 again


Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: CJones on May 03, 2017, 08:58:58 PM
I applied the "Creator's Update" today. I should have stuck with hunch.  :angry:

A bunch of my Steam games no longer work, including Nier Automata and Pinball Arcade. I'm not happy about this,,, :o
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Variety of Cells on May 04, 2017, 08:21:21 AM
I applied the "Creator's Update" today. I should have stuck with hunch.  :angry:

A bunch of my Steam games no longer work, including Nier Automata and Pinball Arcade. I'm not happy about this,,, :o

Yikes. Thanks for the heads up.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: CJones on May 06, 2017, 06:39:00 PM
I applied the "Creator's Update" today. I should have stuck with hunch.  :angry:

A bunch of my Steam games no longer work, including Nier Automata and Pinball Arcade. I'm not happy about this,,, :o

Yikes. Thanks for the heads up.

Quick update. At the recommendation of someone on the Steam forums, I updated my nVidia drivers. And it did help. Nier Automata and Bayonetta, 2 of the games that got broken, work again.

However, The Pinball Arcade, and Stern Pinball Arcade are a different matter. Sometimes they will boot, but only after a ridiculously long time (over a minute) and other times they won't boot at all. There seems to be no rhyme or reason to it. Keep in mind that these are games that used to boot up in about 5 seconds, before this damn update.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on June 17, 2017, 09:25:00 PM
That creators update took forever to in stall on my fast system, it was faster when I upgraded windows 7 to 10....

So far no issues with any games, pinball arcade still works like it did before

Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Variety of Cells on June 17, 2017, 09:44:21 PM
That creators update took forever to in stall on my fast system, it was faster when I upgraded windows 7 to 10....

So far no issues with any games, pinball arcade still works like it did before

So other than not breaking your games, is there anything about the update you like?
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on June 17, 2017, 10:53:48 PM
That creators update took forever to in stall on my fast system, it was faster when I upgraded windows 7 to 10....

So far no issues with any games, pinball arcade still works like it did before

So other than not breaking your games, is there anything about the update you like?

Nothing in the update is anything I would use, so I don't see any difference.

I turned off all the new gaming stuff since I don't play online stuff or do any game streaming.  Maybe that is why all my steam stuff seems to be fine.

Every major update I have to reinstall the windows 7 games to get freecell back, so I was expecting that....

I'm waiting to see if anyone has found any privacy stuff that got turned back on or had it's name changed so you don't notice it's back on, so far I haven't read of anything like that.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Variety of Cells on June 27, 2017, 12:53:29 PM
Well I installed the update finally.  And for about 10 minutes I thought it killed my windows instillation. 

My computer has an issue where sometimes when I boot it up I get a blue screen saying it can't find the windows instillation and it needs to be repaired.  But it goes away if I restart the computer.  Well, after the update installed about 30% it restarts the system, and when it restarted I got that blue screen.  But rebooting my computer five more times didn't fix it.  It looked like I was fucked.

Went in to the computer and unplugged the hard drive, booted, then replugged the hard drive and booted again to try and get it to recognize the drive, didn't work.  Went into the BIOS next to see if anything was weird, and I noticed that my boot drive was listed as 5th priority out of my hard drives, which seemed weird.  I changed it to first which fixed the problem.

I wouldn't have been terribly mad about it though.  I'm starting to think about doing some upgrades.  I want to get a nice big SSD, as my current 250 gigs fills up way too fast.  I have to cycle games out all the time.  And I think it's about time for a new processor and motherboard.  Going to wait for the new Intel i9 generation to come out though.  And then wait a little longer after that for more in depth reviews.  I think I can wait another generation on the GPU front though.  Of course my Titan is already out dated, but it still holds up well enough. 
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Kasmsmfe on August 12, 2017, 02:16:14 AM
I upgraded win 10 from Windows 8.  Personally, I think it is much better than windows 8. Previously, I tried very hard to reset windows 10 password (https://www.recoverywindowspassword.com/reset-forgotten-windows-10-login-password.html).  Now, it only takes 10 minutes to  without disk. This is a quite impressive advantage over windows 10.
At least you are lucky . you have succeed recover password on Windows, i upgraded win 10 from Windows 8 , i have failed, what is worse , the save files on the computer get loss , and i unable to access to my computer ,
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: RVR II on February 07, 2018, 11:59:09 AM
Just had a big Win 10 update that took nearly 45 minutes to install on one of my tax computers while a tax client was patiently waiting.. Finally got the computer to boot up and after finishing his taxes, I couldn't print them! There was no communication between the computer and the printer so I could print out his taxes! Had to save each form as a .pdf, then save them to a thumb drive and print them out from another computer! :grr:
After the client left, I troubleshot the printer issue and looks like this update corrupted the printer driver to the point that I had to uninstall the driver and reload it from scratch!
It's now working fine again.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on February 07, 2018, 02:06:07 PM
That has been the only problem I've had with Win10 updates, most of the big ones mess up my printing.  In my case it's always messing with the network port the printer is set up on so it's listed as offline.  Usually I can just delete the port and create a new one, but once in a while I have to reinstall the driver.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on May 17, 2018, 06:00:26 PM
The big spring update just installed on my system, what a surprise I had to reinstall my printer, and my mouse settings were screwed up this time.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Variety of Cells on July 19, 2018, 08:19:25 AM
Here comes the choochoo!  Open wide!  It’s a yummy yummy windows update. Now come on, open up. You used to love windows updates.

Me: No no no no no no no!  Gimme more video games and porn now!  I hate stupid windows updates.

(http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg98/jesseskogh/F20BA535-5AEF-4A8D-98D3-EC15556441B7_zpsjymubn6x.jpg)
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on July 19, 2018, 08:27:38 AM
It does seem in the last year or so the wording of the update messages has gotten worse.

Nauseating is probably too strong but it would not take much to get there.

The PR department must be writing their update notifications.  ;)
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on July 19, 2018, 09:09:39 AM
Just occurred to me, the tone of those messages, it's Sirius Cybernetics Corporation speak.

I guess the folks at Microsoft really want to be the first up against the wall when the revolution comes...

Share and enjoy!
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: wihogfan on September 06, 2018, 04:59:15 PM
Spilt a drink on my laptop yesterday and while it worked fine for the rest of the day, not all of the keys on the keyboard are working today. Hoping a good drying out period will fix it. If not, I'll open it up and see what I can do.

Anyway, in the meantime I pulled out my old Windows 7 laptop and for security purposes, decided to upgrade it to Windows 10. Man, that's been a tedious task. First 2 attempts resulted in partition errors that I had to figure out, then about 2 hours to update, now going through updates to the update.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: wihogfan on September 06, 2018, 05:35:06 PM
2 things I'll add:
-Despite Windows 7 and 8 users no longer being hounded like hell to update to W/indows 10 and Microsoft's official stance being that the free update to Windows 10 is over, you can still update for free (provided you have a valid Windows 7 or 8 license) by downloading the Windows 10 Update Assistant.
-EaseUS Partition Manager 12.1 (free) made fixing my partition problem fairly easy. Problem was related to Acer having hidden the Windows 7 restore files on their own partition instead of sending a restore disk (as many laptops including this one no longer have an optical disk drive). Should have fixed the partition issue when I replaced the original hard drive with a SSD awhile ago, but I was lazy and just cloned the old drive when I did it.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: wihogfan on September 06, 2018, 06:13:55 PM
I forgot just how backwards the Windows 10 update status page looks compared to older versions as it usually kind of does it's thing in the background. Was thinking I needed 3 additional Windows 10 updates after updating from 7 to 10...it's more like 30.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: wihogfan on September 06, 2018, 07:27:59 PM
Sigh....3 hours of updates to the update and still updating (to be fair, a large number of the updates were security updates to the old version of Microsoft Office that I have installed on this laptop). But thought that updating to Windows 10 would have including the major updates to the OS but it didn't. Feature Update version 1803 currently at 25% and counting and not even sure if that's the latest feature update.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: wihogfan on September 07, 2018, 03:04:24 PM
Feature update 1803 was fortunately the last /latest update and it finished around midnight last night. I had done a clean install of Windows 7 (and Microsoft office) when I got my new laptop that replaced this one, so today was spent installing essential programs that were missing and optimizing Windows 10.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: wihogfan on September 17, 2018, 08:47:32 PM
My "new" Windows laptop (really 5+ years old) that I spilled a drink on ended up being toast...thanks to the touch screen, it still functions as a tablet, but nothing I did fixed the keyboard problem and even as a tablet it seems much slower than it was pre-spill.
Windows 7 laptop that I had updated to Windows 10 even slower, but that was more to it being even older (it's a netbook that I bought when those were all the craze). Fine for light web surfing, but not for doing much else.
So I ended up buying a new laptop. First thought was to try and get something comparable in size to the netbook because I really like it's portability, but anything in that size with decent specs is overly expensive.
Ended up with a behemoth (at least compared to laptops I've owned in the past) 15.6" laptop due to not really planning to take it out of the house (figure I'll still travel with the old netbook when needed) and my desktop is 5+ years old so I wanted something that could replace both my old laptop and my desktop.
8th generation i5-8300h is amazingly quick compared to what I've been used to. Battery life not great and size taking some getting used to, but loving the speed.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: wihogfan on October 05, 2018, 07:45:22 PM
Well it's fall and the the latest Windows 10 "features" update showed as an update for me today.
-VPN software no longer works (states it won't work with my version of Windows). A work around was downloading OpenVPN and using a manual configuration with my VPN provider's keys.
-Task manager looks weird until you click "Advanced" settings.
-Had to re-disable a few things that I had previously disabled on startup.
Other than that, haven't noticed any major differences yet.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on October 06, 2018, 07:59:36 AM
 The big updates also seem to turn on background running for apps you have previously set to not run in the background, so that's another thing to look at. 

 You have to go through all of the categories on the left side of settings->privacy every time there is a major update.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: The Lurker on October 06, 2018, 11:08:44 AM
Unfortunately, the patch also has a “delete all files in My Documents” bug.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: wihogfan on October 06, 2018, 11:14:01 AM
That bug didn't hit me. Could be because I didn't have much in My Documents.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: wihogfan on October 06, 2018, 11:39:14 AM
And the update has been pulled due to a large number of issues including the My Documents issue:
https://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-halts-rollout-of-windows-10-october-2018-update-what-happens-next/

Guess I'm lucky I didn't have more problems then I did.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: RVR II on October 06, 2018, 03:10:01 PM
That bug didn't hit me. Could be because I didn't have much in My Documents.
I haven't had my Windows 10 office computers on in a while which is probably a good thing after hearing about this :o
I have a lot of important stuff in My Documents folders that I need.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: wihogfan on November 01, 2018, 07:39:52 PM
Well, since I was one of the ones that installed the October features update, I did get an update to the update, but it looks like for everyone else the features update is still on hold.
Again, the "my documents" deletion bug never effected me and the only problem I had with the update was with my VPN software (which works with an old version of my VPN providers software or with OpenVPN). But I still can't tell what features were added if any.