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Title: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Rainbow Dash on October 28, 2014, 04:47:29 PM
Marvel laid out their plans for the next 5 years.

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July 17, 2015: Ant-Man
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f0/Ant-Man_logo.jpg)

May 6, 2016: Captain America: Civil War
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November 4, 2016: Doctor Strange
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May 5, 2017: Guardians of the Galaxy 2
(http://i.imgur.com/YoIDRlE.jpg)

July 28, 2017: Thor: Ragnarok
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November 3, 2017: Black Panther
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May 4, 2018: Avengers: Infinity War PART I
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B1DeU3FCIAAUtQE.jpg:large)

July 6, 2018: Captain Marvel
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November 2, 2018: The Inhumans
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May 3, 2019: Avengers: Infinity Wars PART II
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They also clarified that Captain marvel will be Carol Danvers, making it the first movie by the studio with a female lead.

But you know, Wonder Woman is too risky is according to WB and DC...
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: goflyblind on October 28, 2014, 04:56:54 PM
But you know, Wonder Woman is too risky is according to WB and DC...

uh… http://www.latinpost.com/articles/24528/20141027/wonder-woman-movie-news-update-kathryn-bigelow-catherine-hardwicke-direct.htm ???
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Edward J Grug III on October 28, 2014, 05:08:08 PM
But you know, Wonder Woman is too risky is according to WB and DC...

uh… http://www.latinpost.com/articles/24528/20141027/wonder-woman-movie-news-update-kathryn-bigelow-catherine-hardwicke-direct.htm ???

If it's in the Man of Steel-a-verse, it's gonna stink anyway.  :P
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Edward J Grug III on October 28, 2014, 05:10:13 PM
One thing about the line-up is it shows no faith in Ant-Man. If it does really great it'd be five years before there was a sequel.

I guess that's kind of the problem with their current structure.

I do like that most of the back end is the Cosmic stuff.

Though I'm kind of surprised Nova isn't in there...
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Rainbow Dash on October 28, 2014, 05:14:47 PM
But you know, Wonder Woman is too risky is according to WB and DC...

uh… http://www.latinpost.com/articles/24528/20141027/wonder-woman-movie-news-update-kathryn-bigelow-catherine-hardwicke-direct.htm ???

Well, about time they got their head out of their ass. 

Did they really just announce the stand alone film yesterday to try and one-up Marvel?
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Edward J Grug III on October 28, 2014, 05:22:54 PM
But you know, Wonder Woman is too risky is according to WB and DC...

uh… http://www.latinpost.com/articles/24528/20141027/wonder-woman-movie-news-update-kathryn-bigelow-catherine-hardwicke-direct.htm ???

Well, about time they got their head out of their ass. 

Did they really just announce the stand alone film yesterday to try and one-up Marvel?

No, it was about two weeks ago:

http://comicsalliance.com/warner-bros-announces-justice-league-wonder-woman-aquaman-movies-more/
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: ScottotD on October 28, 2014, 06:18:49 PM
TOO EXCITED!
(http://i.imgur.com/MmBKV8X.gif)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: k1 on October 28, 2014, 08:03:40 PM
Sweeeeeeet!
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Sideswipe on October 28, 2014, 08:18:12 PM
So the Civil War is only going to last for one movie?  Seems like kind of a waste if it does. 
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Rainbow Dash on October 28, 2014, 08:23:28 PM
So the Civil War is only going to last for one movie?  Seems like kind of a waste if it does. 

Well, it's clearly going to be handled differently.  No one in the current Marvel movieverse has a secret identity.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Edward J Grug III on October 28, 2014, 09:10:23 PM
So the Civil War is only going to last for one movie?  Seems like kind of a waste if it does.

You can do a lot in one movie. I be OK if it's their first three hour movie though.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: ScottotD on October 28, 2014, 09:48:39 PM
So the Civil War is only going to last for one movie?  Seems like kind of a waste if it does.

You can do a lot in one movie. I be OK if it's their first three hour movie though.

...plus Cap 2 *kind of* laid some groundwork for it, I imagine Age of Ultron will do the same. 
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Pak-Man on October 29, 2014, 06:57:59 AM
Yeah just because the Civil War movie would be over doesn't mean its effects won't be felt in the future movies. I actually thought the fallout from Civil War was way more interesting than the event itself.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: The Lurker on October 29, 2014, 07:48:38 AM
At least Marvel is going for the more lighthearted approach.  Just heard the Wonder Woman movie is using her grim and edgy New 52 version.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: ScottotD on October 29, 2014, 08:52:27 AM
At least Marvel is going for the more lighthearted approach.  Just heard the Wonder Woman movie is using her grim and edgy New 52 version.

I think Marvel could go darker and vice-versa different tones make things more fun (while also shutting up the 'WAAAH comic book movies!' crowd)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: RoninFox on October 29, 2014, 08:56:31 AM
Age of Ultron looks pretty dark so far, Marvel can pretty much go anywhere at this point (which is great because that's what you can do with comics in general.)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Edward J Grug III on October 29, 2014, 04:57:57 PM
So the Civil War is only going to last for one movie?  Seems like kind of a waste if it does.

You can do a lot in one movie. I be OK if it's their first three hour movie though.

...plus Cap 2 *kind of* laid some groundwork for it, I imagine Age of Ultron will do the same.

And Agents of SHIELD is also building on that.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Edward J Grug III on October 29, 2014, 04:58:56 PM
At least Marvel is going for the more lighthearted approach.  Just heard the Wonder Woman movie is using her grim and edgy New 52 version.

The Brian Azzarello Wonder Woman? I just got interested for the first time.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: The Lurker on October 29, 2014, 06:09:09 PM
At least Marvel is going for the more lighthearted approach.  Just heard the Wonder Woman movie is using her grim and edgy New 52 version.

The Brian Azzarello Wonder Woman? I just got interested for the first time.
It's more about how the Amazons were handled.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Edward J Grug III on October 29, 2014, 06:16:35 PM
It doesn't matter, I remembered it was part of the Justice Legue universe and my eyes glossed over again.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: LucasM on October 30, 2014, 11:45:18 AM
Looks like a great line-up.  I'll be getting each on Blu, probably on release day (since I can rarely make it to theaters).

They had better introduce Adam Warlock before Infinity War.  Thanos with the gauntlet, without Warlock, is simply wrong.  [It would have been nice if there'd been an individual Warlock film, possibly covering the territory of Starlin's first run with the character from Strange Tales 178-Marvel Two-In-One Annual 2.]


What they really need to do is increase the number of films per year by at least one more.  They can't keep up with demand - something that Hollywood hasn't seen in years (decades?  ever?).
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: k1 on October 30, 2014, 12:25:47 PM
Maybe they'll start doing more small run stuff like they plan on doing with Netflix?
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: LucasM on October 30, 2014, 02:15:22 PM
Maybe they'll start doing more small run stuff like they plan on doing with Netflix?

That would be great, though it has its advantages and disadvantages.  If it is in continuity (like crossover information on Howard Stark/Cap/Agent Carter/Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. ties together through Iron Man, Cap, and AoS...) then it will be good for fleshing out the characters and the entire Marvel Universe.  But the down side is that many of those venues aren't common to the average person.  "Common" like broadcast TV is - (e.g. Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.), so all those without Netflix, or Amazon Prime (if anything goes there), or Hulu Plus (if anything goes there), would miss sometimes crucial information to Marvel Filmic Universe continuity (character introductions and such).

While not everyone goes to theaters, most people who have an interest do see films either from purchase or rental or streaming (as long as they are streamed across venues [all of them - Netflix, Prime, Hulu - not exclusive to one or another]).
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Edward J Grug III on October 30, 2014, 04:46:10 PM
THey have said their plan eventually has five movies a year! I can't wait!
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: ScottotD on October 30, 2014, 04:47:11 PM
Looks like a great line-up.  I'll be getting each on Blu, probably on release day (since I can rarely make it to theaters).

They had better introduce Adam Warlock before Infinity War.

Wouldn't he be in Captain Marvel?
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: LucasM on October 30, 2014, 07:48:45 PM
Looks like a great line-up.  I'll be getting each on Blu, probably on release day (since I can rarely make it to theaters).

They had better introduce Adam Warlock before Infinity War.

Wouldn't he be in Captain Marvel?

Warlock was around and had the majority of his adventures without (the original, or any other) Captain Marvel.  But, that's a good point: for the sake of the films, they could very well introduce him there. :)  I suspect that the characters would work fairly well together, as they have rather different approaches to the universe in the comics (quite different, actually, which could make for interesting interactions).

And I should feel enheartened... after all, I remember reading a few weeks back that Kevin Feige confirmed that Adam Warlock's coccoon did show up briefly on screen already, in the back of the collector's collection (though it was green instead of orange-brown, like it should have been).
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: ScottotD on October 30, 2014, 08:27:27 PM
Looks like a great line-up.  I'll be getting each on Blu, probably on release day (since I can rarely make it to theaters).

They had better introduce Adam Warlock before Infinity War.

Wouldn't he be in Captain Marvel?

Warlock was around and had the majority of his adventures without (the original, or any other) Captain Marvel.  But, that's a good point: for the sake of the films, they could very well introduce him there. :)  I suspect that the characters would work fairly well together, as they have rather different approaches to the universe in the comics (quite different, actually, which could make for interesting interactions).

And I should feel enheartened... after all, I remember reading a few weeks back that Kevin Feige confirmed that Adam Warlock's coccoon did show up briefly on screen already, in the back of the collector's collection (though it was green instead of orange-brown, like it should have been).

To be honest my main knowledge of him was him turning into a tree from Deadpool ...or possibly X-Force (Cable?)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Rainbow Dash on October 30, 2014, 08:51:09 PM
They can easily introduce others, especially with the success of Guardians of the Galaxy opening the door to the whole Celestials stage.  I will be surprised if Phyla-Vell isn't introduced as Quasar, and the movies just ignore that she was ever Captain Marvel.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: LucasM on October 31, 2014, 10:10:29 AM
Spoilered the whole post, since it is responding to ScottotD about Warlock (a potential/likely future film character), not the Marvel movie lineup per se.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: LucasM on November 02, 2014, 06:42:59 PM
It took me over 48 hours, but something finally registered: it turns out I didn't really need to spoiler the above post, because in the book I discussed in that post was the Jim Starlin creation/introduction of a character that is already part of the Marvel cinematic universe: Gamora, the Deadliest Woman in the Galaxy.  Starlin introduced her in the 2nd or 3rd issue in his run on Warlock, and she was Warlock's companion for many years (the two of them, along with Pip the Troll (another Starlin creation), and ultimately Drax (who I don't think was created by Starlin) and more, dealing many times with Starlin's creation Thanos and Starlin's creation the Infinity Gems) before Warlock and Gamora separated and she joined the Guardians of the Galaxy.  :)

People get it, don't they? :)  Jim Starlin created a LOT of the mythos that Marvel's cosmic films (starting with The Avengers) are based on.

For the record, here is a history of Warlock's, Thanos' and the Infinity Gems' varied past (there're some varied issues interspersed in it all).  Spoilered because while this is of interest as historic source information for Gem/Gauntlet/Thanos/Gamora/Warlock, it simply isn't about film stuff.
Spoiler (click to show/hide)

[EDIT: grammatical repairs]
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Edward J Grug III on November 02, 2014, 06:45:14 PM
After your post, I looked Warlock up in Marvel Unlimited, by the way. Added it to my library, but haven't started it yet.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Ben on November 04, 2014, 05:04:50 AM
Too...many...superhero movies.

Seriously, I'm saying that as a guy who used to eat this stuff up like candy. The entire decade looks as if it's going to be dominated by costumed supermen. If I didn't know better, I would have found something slightly fascist about it all.

(It doesn't help most of the movies Marvel churns out all have almost exactly the same plot trajectory. I know Ang Lee's HULK will never stop getting flak, but you can't deny it was at least trying something different.)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: ScottotD on November 04, 2014, 05:33:15 AM
What an odd thing to say...
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Sideswipe on November 04, 2014, 05:56:19 AM
Not really.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: ScottotD on November 04, 2014, 06:02:44 AM
Really?

If I didn't know better, I would have found something slightly fascist about it all.

Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Sideswipe on November 04, 2014, 06:04:02 AM
Yes.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: ScottotD on November 04, 2014, 06:06:50 AM
Besides the weird fascist thing I'm still surprised people think superhero are the same genre and even more having any feelings about movies/TV/pop-culture they could just not engage in.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Pak-Man on November 04, 2014, 07:01:39 AM
It's a funny thing. Superhero is not a genre, no. But putting a superhero IN a given genre makes me way more likely to see it. I'm not the type to go see political thrillers, for instance, but I sure enjoyed Captain America.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Ben on November 04, 2014, 11:40:03 AM
What an odd thing to say...

What's "odd" about it? Superheroes are crowding out just about every other type of blockbuster out there, to the point where no studio executive would dare invest his/her money in anything that doesn't involve filthy-rich billionaires or people endowed with unnatural powers. The film industry has taken on the same pattern as the world economy, with studios either pumping out depressing no-budget character studies, or IRON MAN and HARRY POTTER, with the middle class evaporating entirely. You do it for $1 million or $500 million, but ten or fifteen million? Get the hell out of my office, ya bum!

That, to me, strongly resembles fascism.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Darth Geek on November 04, 2014, 01:43:26 PM
Superhero movies are just an extension of action movies. We've been having supposedly human action heroes do more and more impossible things in movies for decades. If comic books didn't exist, we'd be making these characters up anyways.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Edward J Grug III on November 04, 2014, 04:27:03 PM
What an odd thing to say...

What's "odd" about it? Superheroes are crowding out just about every other type of blockbuster out there, to the point where no studio executive would dare invest his/her money in anything that doesn't involve filthy-rich billionaires or people endowed with unnatural powers. The film industry has taken on the same pattern as the world economy, with studios either pumping out depressing no-budget character studies, or IRON MAN and HARRY POTTER, with the middle class evaporating entirely. You do it for $1 million or $500 million, but ten or fifteen million? Get the hell out of my office, ya bum!

That, to me, strongly resembles fascism.

OK, what you're doing there is caleld confirmation bias. These blockbuster movies are all schedueled for 2015:

FURIOUS 7
MAD MAX: FURY ROAD
TOMORROWLAND
SAN ANDREAS
JURASSIC WORLD
TERMINATOR: GENESIS
GRIMSBY
PEREGRINE’S HOME FOR PECULIARS
ASSASSIN’S CREED
THE BOURNE *SOMETHING*
HUNGER GAMES MOCKINGJAY PART 2
CROUCHING TIGER HIDDEN DRAGON 2
CINDERELLA
DIVERGENT 2
MISSION IMPOSSIBLE 5
THE MAN FROM UNCLE
INSIDIOUS 3
POINT BREAK
POLTERGEIST

None of those are super hero films. (Admittedly there are some kind of powers involved in PHfP, but it's not in any way a super hero movie)

That's not counting upcoming animated blockbusters or comedies.

And I don't think you know what Fascism is.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: goflyblind on November 04, 2014, 04:32:57 PM
And I don't think you know what Fascism is.

a buzzword for bad things. :speechless:
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Ben on November 04, 2014, 04:59:43 PM
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None of those are super hero films. (Admittedly there are some kind of powers involved in PHfP, but it's not in any way a super hero movie)

Not technically, but you might also notice the majority of the films you listed are either "reboots", sequels, or remakes. The advent of the superhero in movies is just a symptom of a bigger problem, which is the dearth of originality in mainstream cinema.

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And I don't think you know what Fascism is.

I've had this nasty little nugget thrown in my face before, and with all due respect...it's bullshit. I know exactly what fascism is. One viewing of SHOAH was more than enough to remind me, so kindly don't ever repeat that line to me again.

What you fail to understand is how fascism is being applied in this particular situation. When the term "fascism" is mentioned, your brain immediately locks into imagery of jackboots and black uniforms. What you forget is that evil adapts with the times. Instead of a wide group of people being oppressed, it's dreams and ideas. Just because they're not flesh and blood doesn't make it any less wrong.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: The Lurker on November 04, 2014, 05:10:51 PM
Part of the problem is increasing advertising costs.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Edward J Grug III on November 04, 2014, 05:11:50 PM
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None of those are super hero films. (Admittedly there are some kind of powers involved in PHfP, but it's not in any way a super hero movie)

Not technically, but you might also notice the majority of the films you listed are either "reboots", sequels, or remakes. The advent of the superhero in movies is just a symptom of a bigger problem, which is the dearth of originality in mainstream cinema.

WHOA! Did anyone see those goalposts go flying down the street?! Incredible!

I'm not sure why seeing SHOAH makes you think studios making superhero movies is a form of Fascim. It must have been a different cut?

Anyway, you can say something is bullshit, but you've still not made a convincing arguement at all.

In fact, isn't this all a reaction to what the people want? Would this be happening if super hero movies weren't making more money than most other films?
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: goflyblind on November 04, 2014, 05:13:26 PM
sheep, hogs, okapi, and hens? ???
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Edward J Grug III on November 04, 2014, 05:15:37 PM
Part of the problem is increasing advertising costs.

I'm not sure what this is in answer to?
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Edward J Grug III on November 04, 2014, 05:17:24 PM
sheep, hogs, okapi, and hens? ???

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shoah_%28film%29
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Sideswipe on November 04, 2014, 05:19:18 PM
sheep, hogs, okapi, and hens? ???

Skanky Hotels Orgies And Hookers
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: ScottotD on November 04, 2014, 08:55:51 PM
Instead of a wide group of people being oppressed, it's dreams and ideas. Just because they're not flesh and blood doesn't make it any less wrong.

You don't perhaps think you're being a touch melodramatic?  I'd also say the same could be said of film in almost any era, what do you feel you're missing out on exactly?
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Pak-Man on November 04, 2014, 10:31:05 PM
Here's how the world of film goes and has always gone.

1) Someone does something new and original and good.
2) The public says, "Wow! That's new and original and good! We love it and want more!"
3) Hollywood gives us more and more and more and more and more.
4) The public says, "OK. That might be just about enough of that..."
5) Hollywood keeps on doing it and it keeps seeming less and less new because it is.
6) A small independant filmmaker decides to take a stand.
7) GOTO 1

Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: RoninFox on November 05, 2014, 04:51:47 AM
Remakes and sequels have been around for pretty much the entire history of movies, and if you include adaptations of literature they have probably always been the vast majority of movies made.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Darth Geek on May 16, 2015, 09:58:06 AM
I just realized something. The INHUMANS movie is going to be an extension of the stuff in Agents of Shield? I like some of that show, but their Inhumans stuff is just really boring (except the cool blind teleporter guy), and very clearly limited a lot by their TV budget.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: LucasM on May 16, 2015, 10:35:12 AM
I just realized something. The INHUMANS movie is going to be an extension of the stuff in Agents of Shield? I like some of that show, but their Inhumans stuff is just really boring (except the cool blind teleporter guy), and very clearly limited a lot by their TV budget.

I would hope that the film will basically be "y'know what you've seen on Agents of SHIELD?  That was a tiny splinter group of Inhumans that didn't know jack shit about the complete society of Inhumans that's been hiding elsewhere on the planet.  Here's King BlackBolt and his queen, Medusa to tell you all about them...."
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: k1 on May 16, 2015, 10:36:30 AM
I just realized something. The INHUMANS movie is going to be an extension of the stuff in Agents of Shield? I like some of that show, but their Inhumans stuff is just really boring (except the cool blind teleporter guy), and very clearly limited a lot by their TV budget.

I would hope that the film will basically be "y'know what you've seen on Agents of SHIELD?  That was a tiny splinter group of Inhumans that didn't know jack shit about the complete society of Inhumans that's been hiding elsewhere on the planet.  Here's King BlackBolt and his queen, Medusa to tell you all about them...."

That is my guess as well.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: ScottotD on May 16, 2015, 11:07:32 AM
Aw, Ben seemed fun
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: LucasM on June 25, 2015, 06:43:16 PM
Am I the last person who would be interested to know it to find out that Benedict Cumberbatch was (superbly, I will say) cast as Doctor Strange (http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Benedict-Cumberbatch-Finally-Can-Talk-About-Doctor-Strange-So-He-Said-68561.html)?  [The article is dated "7 months ago". :P]

His capacity to act the part (well, OK, most any part), as well as the flawless facial and body structure for the lanky magical physician, was truly inspired casting.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Edward J Grug III on June 25, 2015, 06:46:02 PM
Yeah, I think you are!

The movie also has Tilda Swinton as the Ancient One and Chiwetel Ejiofor as Mordo!
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Darth Geek on June 25, 2015, 07:17:33 PM
Yeah, I am looking forward to that one. Like Guardians of the Galaxy and Thor before it, it is a departure from the other movies so far that it could easily fall on it's face. But Marvel has done well so I have hope.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: LucasM on June 25, 2015, 08:23:47 PM
Yes, I'm looking forward to it also.  [The comics I most regret having sold in the mid-'80s was the complete Dr Strange set, starting with Strange Tales 110. :'( (I had Strange Tales back to 102 and Annual 2 with the Human Torch, but those stories were never terribly memorable, so it's just the 110, 111, and 114-on that I miss.)]

Marvel actually cares about their characters and their portrayal (unlike most pre-Marvel Studios treatment of any of their characters), so I think they'll do fine with Dr Strange in/on film.  And yes, it'll be a nice change of pace.  I agree that it is great with Marvel's film release schedule, to see that they have added this variety in the types of films, not staying all with standard superhero fare.  Of course their array of comics never were really locked into standard superheros - they went out of their way to create wildly different characters to trap as many potential readers as possible. :)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Johnny Unusual on June 26, 2015, 08:36:18 AM
I'm looking forward to Doctor Strange.  I know people are down on origin stories these days, but Strange has one I'm looking forward to seeing.  It's usually glossed over pretty quick in the comics, but it's a fairly good one and I really want to explore Strange's transformation from self-centered jerk to master of magic.
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Post by: Darth Geek on June 26, 2015, 10:02:47 AM
I'm looking forward to Doctor Strange.  I know people are down on origin stories these days, but Strange has one I'm looking forward to seeing.  It's usually glossed over pretty quick in the comics, but it's a fairly good one and I really want to explore Strange's transformation from self-centered jerk to master of magic.
I agree. Doctor Stange is like Captain America where his origin is a huge part of who he is. And it's a lot different than the typical superhero origina we've seen so many times.
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Post by: Sideswipe on June 26, 2015, 12:30:29 PM
Its fairly similar to the Iron Man origin. 
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Post by: Johnny Unusual on June 27, 2015, 12:44:47 AM
I actually think so, too.  However, I also think it has a different trajectory: Tony Stark never stops being an arrogant ass, he just becomes a good arrogant ass.  Strange's redemption is a lot more spiritual.  Also, Tony's journey is dealing is fighting against the kind of stuff he created, while Strange's journey is about a man who is very self-centered realize what it means to be selfless.  But the problem is most of the comics don't really explore the training or who he was when he was a jerk doctor.
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Post by: Darth Geek on June 27, 2015, 05:55:47 AM
There are some comparisons to Iron Man. I do think if done properly the origin and his searching for cures and eventual training would take up two thirds of the movie.
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Post by: LucasM on June 27, 2015, 02:20:32 PM
There are some comparisons to Iron Man. I do think if done properly the origin and his searching for cures and eventual training would take up two thirds of the movie.

I certainly hope so.  I agree: I would like to see the first at least 2/3 of it played as a 'straight' drama, with Strange's a-hole period taking at least the first 1/3, so that the degree of transformation from 'human' to 'superhero' was in stark ;) contrast to Iron Man.  Then the middle 1/4-1/3 of the film would be his tuning in spiritually and becoming aware that there is more than Donald-Trumping his way through life.  With his acting in Sherlock and ST:ItD, clearly Cumberbatch could make all of that riveting.

Then the mystical/magical would only become visible and accessible to him in the remaining part of the film, though, for the sake of the 'gee-whiz' viewers, there'd be minor, or even major, hints that more was going on than what we initially were seeing.  Possibly the audience might only be aware of what Stephen Strange himself was aware of (seeing things that made no sense or floating objects where he could not see the other-dimensional creatures who were carrying them).

Doing it that way - with his psychological and spiritual transition being the core of the film - not only would it set it well apart from any other Marvel film (or, for that matter, any superhero film), but it would also make the dramatic difference in his awareness of 'self' being part of a larger 'selfless' whole, and his perception beyond the physical, and his activity beyond the normally-seen, even more powerful when they did introduce the interdimensional travel and magic.

[[No... I haven't thought about this at all. ;D]]
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Post by: Darth Geek on June 27, 2015, 03:02:08 PM
Unfortunately, if they did all of that properly, and told the story the way it needed to be told, it will likely be a lot slower. The general public will probably not like it as much. It will be a lot different than what they have come to expect from Marvel superhero movies.
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Post by: soguru on July 07, 2015, 01:21:56 PM
I watched a review of Ant-man from Comic Book Girl 19... and Ant-man according to her was AMAZING. I really trust her judgement because... well, she's awesome. So if she says it's a great movie I trust her judgement. I'll probably see it 4-5 times in theaters or something.
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Post by: Darth Geek on July 07, 2015, 02:10:08 PM
I'll wait for the Midnight Screenings with Brad Jones and his friends. I agree with them a lot of times, but even when I don't I love the discussion they have about it.
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Post by: soguru on July 07, 2015, 02:12:28 PM
I'll wait for the Midnight Screenings with Brad Jones and his friends. I agree with them a lot of times, but even when I don't I love the discussion they have about it.
I just HAVE to see a movie the night it comes out. Thursday night because of my Support group is now my new movie night because I can usually get a ticket to a new release movie somewhere around 7 or 8 pm, which is a short while after my group ends so its usually a very good night for me.
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Post by: Compound on July 08, 2015, 04:57:31 PM
Eh, I can't find the Spidey thread so I'll stick this here

Aunt May has been cast for the new Sony/Marvel Spider-Man... and it's Marisa Tomei. They seem to be going with the Ultimate version of Spidey (pre-Miles) for this one, so everyone is quite a bit younger. But...

(https://pmcvariety.files.wordpress.com/2015/07/marissa-tomei.jpg?w=670&h=377&crop=1)

Yeah, she's beginning to look the right age for Aunt May.
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Post by: Sideswipe on July 08, 2015, 04:59:41 PM
Is anyone else bored of yet another teenage Spider-Man?
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Post by: soguru on July 08, 2015, 05:22:03 PM
Is anyone else bored of yet another teenage Spider-Man?
I'm not the least bit interested in a Teenage Spider-man. At this point I'd rather see a movie where the original Peter Parker is old and dying or something and he's going to hand the mantle to someone else... or do something like they did when they started the Superior Spider-man series... which I really liked.
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Post by: BathTub on July 08, 2015, 05:40:01 PM
It's kind of a side effect of repeatedly rebooting it unfortunately.
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Post by: goflyblind on July 08, 2015, 06:03:02 PM
Is anyone else bored of yet another teenage Spider-Man?
I'm not the least bit interested in a Teenage Spider-man. At this point I'd rather see a movie where the original Peter Parker is old and dying or something and he's going to hand the mantle to someone else... or do something like they did when they started the Superior Spider-man series... which I really liked.

spiderman: reign could work. and be sufficiently gritty for today's greyscale audiences.
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Post by: Darth Geek on July 08, 2015, 06:09:23 PM
Is anyone else bored of yet another teenage Spider-Man?
I'm bored with Spider man's origin, and his high school problems. I would LOVE a Spider man movie where he is in the suit the entire time.
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Post by: soguru on July 08, 2015, 09:14:38 PM
I'm bored with Spider man's origin, and his high school problems. I would LOVE a Spider man movie where he is in the suit the entire time.
Kinda like Dredd... and that is completely fine with me. The hero's personal life should take a serious backseat to the main story... no more relationship drama that overshadows the main story.
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Post by: Pak-Man on July 09, 2015, 07:18:02 AM
Well personal drama has always been what Spider-Man is about. I know that in the comic book world, there are camps who like teen Peter Parker vs. Adult Peter Parker. When Marvel started doing their Ultimate Universe thing a while back, they locked him down as Teen and some of the most successful Spider-Man comics ever followed. (Didn't hurt that the writing was awesome.)

My prediction, RE: Personal drama, is that they're going to do what they do with the other Marvel Heroes. The solo movies will be about the personal drama, and the crossovers and Avengers movie will probably be mostly Costumed Spider-Man.
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Post by: soguru on July 09, 2015, 07:33:44 AM
Unless it relates directly to the story in a meaningful way though, personal drama really should be kept to a minimum in these kinds of films. I think that's why Iron Man 2 suffered so much because there was all this unnecessary Tony/Pepper stuff that went on and on throughout the film. To be fair they had a little of that in the Avengers but there was so little of it that it never got to the point of annoying. Relationship drama in my opinion, at least the kind we've seen in the last Spider-man trilogy and Amaazing Spider-man 2 has no place in the new MCU.
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Post by: Kete on July 09, 2015, 08:55:16 AM
I was totally excited for Miles Morales.  That would have been much more interesting, and would have made more sense after repeating Peter Parker so much.
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Post by: k1 on July 09, 2015, 10:19:48 AM
I was totally excited for Miles Morales.  That would have been much more interesting, and would have made more sense after repeating Peter Parker so much.

Me too.
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Post by: LucasM on July 10, 2015, 10:28:33 PM
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Post by: goflyblind on July 17, 2015, 08:58:50 AM
https://www.youtube.com/v/H9fqZlo60_8

aww yiss.
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Post by: Compound on October 08, 2015, 04:20:09 PM
Date changes and movie announcements from Disneys. Aside from The Incredibles 2, Toy Story 4 and Cars 3, here's the latest Marvel stuff:

Black Panther (7/6/18)
Captain Marvel (11/2/18)
Ant Man and the Wasp (7/6/18)

I'm pretty sure that Disney's not going to release 2 films on the same day, so one of those dates is in error.
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Post by: Edward J Grug III on October 08, 2015, 04:53:46 PM
Date changes and movie announcements from Disneys. Aside from The Incredibles 2, Toy Story 4 and Cars 3, here's the latest Marvel stuff:

Black Panther (7/6/18)
Captain Marvel (11/2/18)
Ant Man and the Wasp (7/6/18)

I'm pretty sure that Disney's not going to release 2 films on the same day, so one of those dates is in error.

Black Panther was formerly on that date, but it has been moved forward.
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Post by: LucasM on October 11, 2015, 11:19:46 AM
VOID!  See DarthGeek's post here for accurate dates: http://forum.rifftrax.com/index.php?topic=29736.msg928358#msg928358

Updated release schedule through 2020:

Phase Three:
Captain America: Civil War  -  May 6, 2016
Doctor Strange  -  November 4, 2016
Guardians of the Galaxy 2  -  May 5, 2017
Thor: Ragnarok  -  November 3, 2017  (it was July 28, 2017 according to the 2014 article linked below)
Black Panther  -   February 16, 2018  (it was November 3, 2017 according to the 2014 article linked below
Captain Marvel  -  March 8, 2018
Avengers: Infinity War Part 1  -  May 4, 2018

Phase Four:  [Apparently, as Feige has said he considers the Avengers films to be the 'cut-off point' between 'phases'.  However, Infinity War Part 2 might disrupt that rather significantly, as it is only two films later than Part 1.]
Ant-Man and the Wasp - July 6, 2018
Avengers: Infinity War Part 2  -  May 3, 2019
Inhumans  -  July 12, 2019
[unnamed] - May 1, 2020
[unnamed] - July 10, 2020
[unnamed] - November 6, 2020

The new info, with the changed dates (for Panther and Captain Marvel), is from these.
  From Oct 10, 2015: http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/magazines/panache/disney-announces-release-dates-of-19-movies/articleshow/49297071.cms
  From Oct 30, 2014 http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/10/30/inside-marvel-s-phase-3-how-the-avengers-cross-paths-with-black-panther-and-the-new-superheroes.html
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Post by: Edward J Grug III on October 11, 2015, 05:19:44 PM
Black Panther  -   February 16, 2018  (it was November 3, 2017 according to the 2014 article linked below

That article must have fallen out of date before this recent reshuffle though. Here's a more recent one that says "Black Panther arrives on July 6, 2018."

http://comicsalliance.com/black-panthers-role-civil-war-feige/

And here's one that talks about how it is being pushed forward: http://comicsalliance.com/ant-man-2-confirmed/

The site I originally read it on said it was because Black Panther was testing so well in Civil War? Not sure if that's the case or not.
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Post by: LucasM on October 11, 2015, 06:57:52 PM
Black Panther  -   February 16, 2018  (it was November 3, 2017 according to the 2014 article linked below

That article must have fallen out of date before this recent reshuffle though. Here's a more recent one that says "Black Panther arrives on July 6, 2018."

http://comicsalliance.com/black-panthers-role-civil-war-feige/

And here's one that talks about how it is being pushed forward: http://comicsalliance.com/ant-man-2-confirmed/

The site I originally read it on said it was because Black Panther was testing so well in Civil War? Not sure if that's the case or not.

That's interesting, because the date of the article that the release date I had came from two days after the one you quote.  However, the spacing of films with the dates shown in the article on your link seem much more reasonable, as the one I referred to had Panther three months after Ragnarok, and then Cap Marvel only a month after that.  Not likely given the length of time the Marvel films tend to hold in theaters - they wouldn't want to compete with themselves for money.
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Post by: Edward J Grug III on October 11, 2015, 07:00:54 PM
Yep. I think it's been bumped around and some sites didn't keep up? I've seen some saying it's been pushed back and others saying it's been brought forward.

I guess when you announce that far in advance you risk confusing people.

Meanwhile, does anyone buy the rumours that Inhumnas is being cancelled?

I don't believe it yet, but it is the movie I am least looking forward to, so I wouldn't be heart broken if it was dropped in favour of something more interesting.
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Post by: Sideswipe on October 11, 2015, 07:03:28 PM
I am a bit surprised I dont see Spider-Man on that list anywhere.
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Post by: Edward J Grug III on October 11, 2015, 07:11:28 PM
I am a bit surprised I dont see Spider-Man on that list anywhere.

I think that's just because it's technically still a Sony property?
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Post by: Darth Geek on October 11, 2015, 07:17:56 PM
I am a bit surprised I dont see Spider-Man on that list anywhere.

I think that's just because it's technically still a Sony property?
That is true, but it is still going to be part of the MCU continuity. The articles I see show it. http://www.slashfilm.com/marvel-movie-plans/

(http://i2.wp.com/bitcast-a-sm.bitgravity.com/slashfilm/wp/wp-content/images/marvel1.jpg)
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Post by: Edward J Grug III on October 11, 2015, 07:30:37 PM
I wonder how many of the untitleds are sequels?

Marvel need to launch their horror franchises so that they can put out more movies per year, but space out the super hero films.

Werewolf By Night, Simon Garth (Tales of the Zombie), Satana, Man-Thing, N'Kantu the Living Mummy, Manphibian. (I assume they don't have access to Morbius unless they cut a deal with Sony, but they are on good terms with them, so maybe) They can tie them together with a Legion of Monsters movie.

All of these can tie nicely in with relanched Blade films and Ghost Rider (who they have the rights back for) as well.

Dr Strange would cross over nicely too.

And they should do it before Universal get their train-wreck of a universe launched properly.
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Post by: LucasM on October 11, 2015, 07:48:37 PM
I wonder how many of the untitleds are sequels?

Marvel need to launch their horror franchises so that they can put out more movies per year, but space out the super hero films.

Werewolf By Night, Simon Garth (Tales of the Zombie), Satana, Man-Thing, N'Kantu the Living Mummy, Manphibian. (I assume they don't have access to Morbius unless they cut a deal with Sony, but they are on good terms with them, so maybe) They can tie them together with a Legion of Monsters movie.

All of these can tie nicely in with relanched Blade films and Ghost Rider (who they have the rights back for) as well.

Dr Strange would cross over nicely too.

And they should do it before Universal get their train-wreck of a universe launched properly.

I'd be up for monsters, but I think they'd do better in like a Marvel/Netflix format, since most are 'smaller' stories.  Maybe Marvel/Amazon, since Marvel/Netflix is already pretty well tapped out with the multiple series they are producing, particularly since some - like Daredevil - are getting second seasons in addition to the initial seasons of their other joint co-productions.

When I watched the Blus of Agents of SHIELD season 1, it was funny in a mention by Agent Hill in a phone call talking about things packed away along with Blonsky, saying something to the effect of, "a 'Man-Thing', I mean really, what is that?!" ;D  So they've clearly already established they are part of this filmic universe, some already existing.
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Post by: Darth Geek on October 11, 2015, 08:03:27 PM

When I watched the Blus of Agents of SHIELD season 1, it was funny in a mention by Agent Hill in a phone call talking about things packed away along with Blonsky, saying something to the effect of, "a 'Man-Thing', I mean really, what is that?!" ;D  So they've clearly already established they are part of this filmic universe, some already existing.
Yeah, I remember that line very clearly. Because I was so pissed that when all of the things were released after the events of Captain America 2, that THE ABOMINATION wasn't on the top of their priority list! It really shows the hindrance of their TV show budget.
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Post by: Edward J Grug III on October 11, 2015, 08:06:57 PM
Yeah, I do like the idea of a Netflix series, but the budget impact might hurt these franchises that need heavy special effects? I'm thinking a larger budget than a TV series, but much smaller than a regular MCU movie.

That would likely lead to a higher return for them too.

And have them tap directors who might work in horror movies in that range - Neill Marshal on Werewolf by Night, for example.

Actually, a clever way to do a TV series might be as an anthology show, spotlighting different character each week... Hmmm.

(They also referenced Hell Cow on Agents of SHIELD!)
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Post by: Edward J Grug III on October 11, 2015, 08:07:59 PM

When I watched the Blus of Agents of SHIELD season 1, it was funny in a mention by Agent Hill in a phone call talking about things packed away along with Blonsky, saying something to the effect of, "a 'Man-Thing', I mean really, what is that?!" ;D  So they've clearly already established they are part of this filmic universe, some already existing.
Yeah, I remember that line very clearly. Because I was so pissed that when all of the things were released after the events of Captain America 2, that THE ABOMINATION wasn't on the top of their priority list! It really shows the hindrance of their TV show budget.

Well, also that's a character owned by another company, don't forget. Hulk is at Universal still.
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Post by: Darth Geek on October 11, 2015, 08:16:58 PM

When I watched the Blus of Agents of SHIELD season 1, it was funny in a mention by Agent Hill in a phone call talking about things packed away along with Blonsky, saying something to the effect of, "a 'Man-Thing', I mean really, what is that?!" ;D  So they've clearly already established they are part of this filmic universe, some already existing.
Yeah, I remember that line very clearly. Because I was so pissed that when all of the things were released after the events of Captain America 2, that THE ABOMINATION wasn't on the top of their priority list! It really shows the hindrance of their TV show budget.

Well, also that's a character owned by another company, don't forget. Hulk is at Universal still.
True. Although I am actually surprised they still have the rights since as far as I know, they aren't going to make another Hulk movie any time soon. It would be great if one of the unnamed spots was for a Hulk movie. I still want to see Tim Blake Nelson back as The Leader.
Speaking of which, presumably they were planning on making Hulk sequels originally. So I wonder how they would have been included in the overall storyline leading up to the Avengers.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Edward J Grug III on October 11, 2015, 08:32:20 PM
I'll wager Universal can sit back an make money risk free at the moment having Marvel have to pay them to use The Hulk, so they are probably happy to allow that, given that two Hulk films have flopped already.

I wonder what the terms of the contract are though. Do they need to use him by a certain date? That might force a Hulk sequel sooner than either studio wants one...

Or maybe the Avengers movies count towards it? Who knows.
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Post by: soguru on October 12, 2015, 12:37:13 PM
I just hope whoever's making Thor: Ragnarok has something a bit more ambitious in mind than the Dark World. I was really unimpressed with that movie.
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Post by: Darth Geek on October 12, 2015, 02:02:24 PM
I just hope whoever's making Thor: Ragnarok has something a bit more ambitious in mind than the Dark World. I was really unimpressed with that movie.
Me too. The villain was as generic as can be. And the "evil space Kool-Aid" was just embarrasing.
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Post by: LucasM on October 12, 2015, 02:55:16 PM
I just hope whoever's making Thor: Ragnarok has something a bit more ambitious in mind than the Dark World. I was really unimpressed with that movie.
Me too. The villain was as generic as can be. And the "evil space Kool-Aid" was just embarrasing.

Particularly when they are 'Infinity STONES', not 'Infinity Goo'.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Edward J Grug III on October 12, 2015, 03:23:55 PM
I am a huge fan of the guy they are trying to get, but I have a hard time marrying him up with a Thor movie, and even more so for Thor: Ragnarok.

But, hey, the Russo Bros were sit com directors before Captain America: Winter Soldier.
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Post by: soguru on October 12, 2015, 05:26:57 PM
But, hey, the Russo Bros were sit com directors before Captain America: Winter Soldier.
And they are amazing. What they did on Arrested Development was amazing.
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Post by: Edward J Grug III on October 12, 2015, 05:31:28 PM
Marvel have done an amazing job of getting directors I would have never picked in a million years and having them deliver great films.
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Post by: Compound on October 12, 2015, 08:35:28 PM

Actually, a clever way to do a TV series might be as an anthology show, spotlighting different character each week... Hmmm.



DC beat them to that. Their anthology series "Legends of Tomorrow" is scheduled for January. Someone figured out that Hawkgirl or Rip Hunter might not carry a series, but would work well in an ensemble.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Edward J Grug III on October 12, 2015, 08:37:47 PM

Actually, a clever way to do a TV series might be as an anthology show, spotlighting different character each week... Hmmm.



DC beat them to that. Their anthology series "Legends of Tomorrow" is scheduled for January. Someone figured out that Hawkgirl or Rip Hunter might not carry a series, but would work well in an ensemble.

OK, but since DC are incapable of making watchable TV, it doesn't really count. ;)
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Post by: Compound on October 12, 2015, 09:06:48 PM

Actually, a clever way to do a TV series might be as an anthology show, spotlighting different character each week... Hmmm.



DC beat them to that. Their anthology series "Legends of Tomorrow" is scheduled for January. Someone figured out that Hawkgirl or Rip Hunter might not carry a series, but would work well in an ensemble.


OK, but since DC are incapable of making watchable TV, it doesn't really count. ;)


Strongly disagree. I enjoy Arrow and Flash much more than Shield, which seems to start well each season, then slump mid-season and pick up towards the end.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Edward J Grug III on October 12, 2015, 09:09:33 PM

Actually, a clever way to do a TV series might be as an anthology show, spotlighting different character each week... Hmmm.



DC beat them to that. Their anthology series "Legends of Tomorrow" is scheduled for January. Someone figured out that Hawkgirl or Rip Hunter might not carry a series, but would work well in an ensemble.


OK, but since DC are incapable of making watchable TV, it doesn't really count. ;)


Strongly disagree. I enjoy Arrow and Flash much more than Shield, which seems to start well each season, then slump mid-season and pick up towards the end.

Found both to be unwatchable. In fact, two of the worst examples of DC TV I've seen. Even the mediocre Constantine was more enjoyable. But apparently I am in the minority.

I very much enjoy SHIELD (have since the beginning) but let's not forget Agent Carter and Daredevil.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Kete on October 13, 2015, 06:53:17 AM

Actually, a clever way to do a TV series might be as an anthology show, spotlighting different character each week... Hmmm.



DC beat them to that. Their anthology series "Legends of Tomorrow" is scheduled for January. Someone figured out that Hawkgirl or Rip Hunter might not carry a series, but would work well in an ensemble.


OK, but since DC are incapable of making watchable TV, it doesn't really count. ;)


Strongly disagree. I enjoy Arrow and Flash much more than Shield, which seems to start well each season, then slump mid-season and pick up towards the end.

Too many episodes! 24 episodes is not sustainable for any 1 hour drama.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: ScottotD on October 13, 2015, 10:29:33 PM
Kete is the Darth Geek of TV?
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Kete on October 13, 2015, 11:51:18 PM
Kete is the Darth Geek of TV?

Nope. I hate all your favorite stuff in my own unique way.
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Post by: Darth Geek on October 14, 2015, 05:52:54 AM
Kete is the Darth Geek of TV?
I find this funny given how much I apparently annoy people with my complaints about the new Muppet show.

I do agree with Kete, though, that having Sheild be twenty four 1 hour episodes does make it drag a lot.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: ScottotD on October 14, 2015, 07:11:45 PM
Kete is the Darth Geek of TV?
I find this funny given how much I apparently annoy people with my complaints about the new Muppet show.


I meant because he thinks it's too long
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Kete on October 15, 2015, 09:13:14 AM
So Marvel reacquired the movie rights to Fantastic Four?

http://www.comingsoon.net/movies/news/622803-fantastic-four-rights-back-at-marvel#/slide/1
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Sideswipe on October 15, 2015, 09:22:18 AM
Honestly I couldnt give two shits about the Fantastic 4, but I think Doctor Doom could be a huge benefit if done right.  He could be a villain that is bother powerful and threatening, someone I think the MCU is really in need of.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Kete on October 15, 2015, 09:32:52 AM
Yeah.  I'm not a fan of the Fantastic Four.  It's hard to imagine that they would actually try to reboot it again.  Maybe they just want to use the characters to flesh out the universe a bit more in something like Civil War, but not give them another movie on their own.  I know it's too late for Civil War, but maybe FF will be in Infinity War or something.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Pak-Man on October 15, 2015, 10:07:40 AM
At this point, I'm convinced Marvel Studios could make a movie about Hit Monkey and still make it entertaining. Let's see what they can do with the Fantastic Four!

Also note: This puts Galactus in Marvel's hands.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: soguru on October 15, 2015, 10:10:19 AM
Have a future Avengers story beginning with Doctor Doom annihilating the Fantastic four, then bring on Galactus, whose presence is solely because Reed Richards wasn't alive to build the ultimate nullifier. God dammit. I sound like such a geek right now.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Kete on October 15, 2015, 10:21:20 AM
Maybe Silver Surfer will show up in the maybe-sort-of Planet Hulk/Ragnarok movie.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: LucasM on October 15, 2015, 02:21:41 PM
Have a future Avengers story beginning with Doctor Doom annihilating the Fantastic four, then bring on Galactus, whose presence is solely because Reed Richards wasn't alive to build the ultimate nullifier. God dammit. I sound like such a geek right now.

[I believe Johnny retrieved the nullifier from the Watcher's blue spot on the moon, Reed didn't build it.  ...but same effect in what you were proposing.]
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Darth Geek on October 15, 2015, 02:25:07 PM
Kete is the Darth Geek of TV?
I find this funny given how much I apparently annoy people with my complaints about the new Muppet show.


I meant because he thinks it's too long
tl;dr
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Kete on October 15, 2015, 02:31:40 PM
Kete is the Darth Geek of TV?
I find this funny given how much I apparently annoy people with my complaints about the new Muppet show.


I meant because he thinks it's too long
tl;dr

Ha! :)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Edward J Grug III on October 15, 2015, 02:42:45 PM
Think we can count on a Secret Invasion movie in the near future then.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Edward J Grug III on October 15, 2015, 02:46:01 PM
Oh, it doesn't appear to be true: http://io9.com/rumor-has-it-marvel-is-clawing-fantastic-four-back-from-1736693837?utm_campaign=socialflow_io9_twitter&utm_source=io9_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Darth Geek on October 17, 2015, 07:38:25 PM
http://www.denofgeek.us/movies/thor/240735/thor-ragnarok-news-mark-ruffalo-will-co-star-as-hulk

Hell yeah! I do wish they would go back to the 2008 movie look to Hulk, though.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: LucasM on October 17, 2015, 08:27:42 PM
http://www.denofgeek.us/movies/thor/240735/thor-ragnarok-news-mark-ruffalo-will-co-star-as-hulk

Hell yeah! I do wish they would go back to the 2008 movie look to Hulk, though.

Everything but the stripey pecs would be fine with me.  Though I suspect since they've taken to 'Avataring' Ruffalo's facial expressions onto the Hulk, the likelihood of the face changing substantially is limited.  [I do at least wish they wouldn't scrunch all his facial features into such a small, centralized area of the face... looks kinda' like a toddler, which doesn't really scream 'dangerous'.]
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Darth Geek on October 17, 2015, 08:50:25 PM
I liked the striated look to the muscles in the 2008 Hulk, but I can see why some wouldn't. But at least it makes him look unique and interesting. The Avengers Hulk just looks...generic.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: soguru on October 17, 2015, 11:10:26 PM
I'm still interested in seeing a Grey Hulk with Ruffalo's voice and mannerisms. To see Bruce having his alter ego under much better control could be pretty interesting and lead to some fun scenes. Not to mention it would help Bruce keep from feeling guilty every time he "Hulks out".
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: The Lurker on December 28, 2015, 06:38:28 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CXUaVE0UwAAuxIJ.jpg)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: ScottotD on December 28, 2015, 07:14:12 AM
That works, the only alternatives I can think of would be Flash Gordon-era Timothy Dalton, Kiss of the Spider Woman-era Raul Julia and maybe Javier Bardem
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: The Lurker on January 11, 2016, 11:07:30 AM
http://www.avclub.com/article/avengers-infinity-war-will-only-feature-67-charact-230557 (http://www.avclub.com/article/avengers-infinity-war-will-only-feature-67-charact-230557)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Russell AKA Soguru on January 11, 2016, 11:47:23 AM
67?! HOLY SHIT!  :o

Maybe Disney will acquire the rights to have some X-men appear... I hope?
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Pak-Man on January 11, 2016, 12:01:59 PM
Well they don't say 67 superheroes. Some of those scenes may be like- Jane Foster giving Thor a goodbye kiss before battle or something.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: RoninFox on January 11, 2016, 12:28:49 PM
I'm imagining scenes like the battles in Kingdom Come (It's DC, but whatever) where the background is just loaded full of characters that the average person might never have heard of but the true hardcore fans could spend a day searching the page and identifying them.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Darth Geek on January 11, 2016, 12:37:18 PM
Yeah, I hope this means we will get some of the female secondary characters in there. Not just making a joke about it like Age of Ultron. I don't expect to see all of them get central roles, but it is a good acknowledgement of how big the Marvel Universe is.
Which is the reason why I won't (likely) be complaining about the long lengths of the Infinity War movies. This has been built up so much that it truly is epic. And that, like Lord of the Rings, actually justifies the more complicated story and longer length.

And yes, if a few years from now if I am complaining about Infinity War part 1's length, I expect someone to quote this post.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Pak-Man on January 11, 2016, 12:47:59 PM
I'm imagining scenes like the battles in Kingdom Come (It's DC, but whatever) where the background is just loaded full of characters that the average person might never have heard of but the true hardcore fans could spend a day searching the page and identifying them.

That would actually be awesome. I'm a big fan of Marvel's more obscure, more insane characters. It'd be cool to see some characters that would never get a movie otherwise cameo in the background.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: k1 on January 11, 2016, 01:31:39 PM
I'm imagining scenes like the battles in Kingdom Come (It's DC, but whatever) where the background is just loaded full of characters that the average person might never have heard of but the true hardcore fans could spend a day searching the page and identifying them.

That would actually be awesome. I'm a big fan of Marvel's more obscure, more insane characters. It'd be cool to see some characters that would never get a movie otherwise cameo in the background.

Yeah! When are we getting an Impossible Man movie??? Oh wait... he probably would fall under Fox since he liked to annoy the Fantastic Four...
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: SJP on January 11, 2016, 01:37:15 PM
Getting an Impossible Man movie?  That would be Im...er...um...why, really, really, really hard to do. ;)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Pak-Man on January 11, 2016, 02:13:14 PM
I'm actually surprised Fox hasn't just given the rights to F4 over to Marvel saying, "Here. We can't do a darned thing with it."
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Edward J Grug III on January 11, 2016, 02:17:29 PM
I'm actually surprised Fox hasn't just given the rights to F4 over to Marvel saying, "Here. We can't do a darned thing with it."

There is bad blood there for sure.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: k1 on January 11, 2016, 02:22:34 PM
Getting an Impossible Man movie?  That would be Im...er...um...why, really, really, really hard to do. ;)

I miss the Like button. So here's this:  :highfive:
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Russell AKA Soguru on January 11, 2016, 03:06:02 PM
Well they don't say 67 superheroes. Some of those scenes may be like- Jane Foster giving Thor a goodbye kiss before battle or something.
I would love a scene where
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
this all sounds familiar somehow...
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Pak-Man on January 11, 2016, 03:42:04 PM
That would put Natalie Portman in form-fitting battle armor, which I would not mind one bit. :^)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Russell AKA Soguru on January 11, 2016, 04:28:12 PM
I'm really looking forward to seeing who's going to be Captain Marvel... but I'm kinda bummed we gotta wait another 3 years to see it.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Edward J Grug III on January 11, 2016, 04:31:35 PM
I'm really looking forward to seeing who's going to be Captain Marvel... but I'm kinda bummed we gotta wait another 3 years to see it.

Ditto.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Russell AKA Soguru on January 11, 2016, 04:33:47 PM
Any chance it'll be Christina Hendricks as Carol Danvers?  ;D
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Edward J Grug III on January 11, 2016, 04:43:48 PM
Any chance it'll be Christina Hendricks as Carol Danvers?  ;D

Power Girl maybe.

I think they should go with Mackenzie Davis.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: LucasM on January 11, 2016, 05:44:33 PM
Well they don't say 67 superheroes. Some of those scenes may be like- Jane Foster giving Thor a goodbye kiss before battle or something.

Well, this shows roughly 60, so I wouldn't be surprised if they were all superheroes or 'hero-related' (e.g. Agents of SHIELD).  [Of course, one has to substitute Guardians for X-Men or the FF, and fill in a couple to make up the difference, but basically it's not outrageous (well - story wise - for films it is ;)).]

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

I am still going to stay (firmly) on record that Adam Warlock needs to be introduced and well established before Infinity War begins (hopefully in BOTH GotGalaxy2 and maybe even snuck into Ragnarok).  Because without him, Infinity War would be like filming "The Killing Joke" without Batman.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Edward J Grug III on January 11, 2016, 06:12:51 PM
Here is 56 already established characters:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Didn't include most non-hero humans, and one assumes some more will be introduced in the meantime. (Very quickly put together list from a wiki, deleting dead characters, WW2 characters etc. Might have left some in that I shouldn't have or missed some).
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Edward J Grug III on January 11, 2016, 06:14:19 PM
I am still going to stay (firmly) on record that Adam Warlock needs to be introduced and well established before Infinity War begins (hopefully in BOTH GotGalaxy2 and maybe even snuck into Ragnarok).  Because without him, Infinity War would be like filming "The Killing Joke" without Batman.

Given how little Civil War seems to resemble the comic storyline, Infinity War might be very different too.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Russell AKA Soguru on January 11, 2016, 06:26:50 PM
Given how little Civil War seems to resemble the comic storyline, Infinity War might be very different too.
I agree. I'm not even sure they'll want to or even be able to introduce certain characters, such as Death and Mephisto. I'm trying to see how the Russos could make them work but introduce them in earlier Marvel films that are still to come. As for the graphic novel, I must admit it was interesting to see that those powerful entities(Death, Mephisto, Eternity, Galactus, The living Tribunal, etc) are easily dwarfed as far as power goes by Thanos when he has the infinity gauntlet.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Darth Geek on January 11, 2016, 07:12:05 PM
I really really hope they do use Death as Thanos' love interest! It makes his motivations so much more unique than the typical "I want to rule the world universe".

But to do that properly it would be best to introduce Death as a character beforehand. I'm thinking maybe in Dr Strange.

As for the 67 characters, I'm hoping that Agent Caulson is in it. I'm enjoying Agents of SHIELD, but to not have him show up or be mentioned in Age of Ultron seemed odd. His death was a useful event to make them work together, but they don't really need that anymore. There's no reason to not tell these people that their friend is still alive.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: LucasM on January 11, 2016, 07:15:20 PM
I really really hope they do use Death as Thanos' love interest! It makes his motivations so much more unique than the typical "I want to rule the world universe".

But to do that properly it would be best to introduce Death as a character beforehand. I'm thinking maybe in Dr Strange.

As for the 67 characters, I'm hoping that Agent Caulson is in it. I'm enjoying Agents of SHIELD, but to not have him show up or be mentioned in Age of Ultron seemed odd. His death was a useful event to make them work together, but they don't really need that anymore. There's no reason to not tell these people that their friend is still alive.

I agree with everything here; these statements have the LucasM Seal of Approval. ;D
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Darth Geek on January 11, 2016, 07:16:14 PM
I really really hope they do use Death as Thanos' love interest! It makes his motivations so much more unique than the typical "I want to rule the world universe".

But to do that properly it would be best to introduce Death as a character beforehand. I'm thinking maybe in Dr Strange.

As for the 67 characters, I'm hoping that Agent Caulson is in it. I'm enjoying Agents of SHIELD, but to not have him show up or be mentioned in Age of Ultron seemed odd. His death was a useful event to make them work together, but they don't really need that anymore. There's no reason to not tell these people that their friend is still alive.

I agree with everything here; these statements have the LucasM Seal of Approval. ;D
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Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: LucasM on January 11, 2016, 08:34:31 PM
I am still going to stay (firmly) on record that Adam Warlock needs to be introduced and well established before Infinity War begins (hopefully in BOTH GotGalaxy2 and maybe even snuck into Ragnarok).  Because without him, Infinity War would be like filming "The Killing Joke" without Batman.

Given how little Civil War seems to resemble the comic storyline, Infinity War might be very different too.

True (and thank goodness they are changing Civil War - that bored the heck out of me, besides being drastically absurdist ["let's ignore all the bad guys who keep each of us busy and potentially near-death in every single issue of our own comics, in order to fight amongst ourselves for a year and jail half the good heroes who have been just barely keeping this tide of evil-doers from taking over"  Sheer stupidity at its core.]).

But still: Thanos without Warlock is like the Joker without Batman - it can be done, it just isn't remotely as interesting.  Yin without Yang.  Chaos without Order.  Outrageous evil without occasionally-overly-introspective-and-angsty good. ;D
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Russell AKA Soguru on January 11, 2016, 09:38:12 PM
Yeah, Adam Warlock will probably(I hope) be in Guardians Volume 2. I would love to see him. He's so damn cool. It's funny to think that if he is indeed Star Lord's father, Yondu referred to him as an "idiot".
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Darth Geek on January 11, 2016, 09:41:10 PM
Yeah, Adam Warlock will probably(I hope) be in Guardians Volume 2. I would love to see him. He's so damn cool. It's funny to think that if he is indeed Star Lord's father, Yondu referred to him as an "idiot".
I thought he called him a "jackass"?
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Russell AKA Soguru on January 11, 2016, 09:51:10 PM
I thought he called him a "jackass"?
Dammit, my memory fails me. :( I'm not 25 anymore.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: LucasM on January 11, 2016, 10:51:16 PM
Starlord's father has been revealed in the comics to be someone else (who actually is a jackass... or maybe more of an asshole...).  Adam Warlock is an artificially created being from Earth, where Nova Prime clearly said Starlord was only 1/2-human (possibly splitting hairs there, as 'Him' was from Earth, but not a normal biological Earthling).

Warlock of course, doesn't quite fit 'human', particularly having had a few evolutionary bumps in his chrysalis.  That chrysalis gives me hope, because that oddly 'chrysalis-like object' in the background of the Collector's cabinets in Guardians 1 was confirmed by James Gunn to be Warlock's.  The breakage releasing Howard the Duck and Cosmo (the psychic dog) could potentially have taken Warlock's chrysalis out of whatever stasis it may have been in.


OK... for those who have no clue what the F we're talking about, I'm gonna' plug this again: Warlock, the Complete Collection by Jim Starlin  (http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51up0%2Bikm2L._SX321_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg) (http://smile.amazon.com/Warlock-Jim-Starlin-Complete-Collection/dp/0785188479/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1452581503)  It was the first truly great Marvel cosmic storytelling.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Russell AKA Soguru on January 12, 2016, 12:10:49 AM
I'd like Deadpool to show up and say to Star Lord "I am your father" and then say "Just kidding, but it would make sense with how you held the infinity stone for so long"
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: RoninFox on January 12, 2016, 06:15:37 AM
I'd like Deadpool to show up and say to Star Lord "I am your father" and then say "Just kidding, but it would make sense with how you held the infinity stone for so long"

This and the idea of Death being personified in the movies as she is in the comics really makes me wish the new Deadpool movie was in the MCU instead of being a Fox film...though that is the only complaint I can think of for the buildup to Deadpool.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Darth Geek on January 12, 2016, 06:41:35 AM
I wonder if Howard the Duck is one of the 67 characters? That would be awesome, even if it was just another cameo.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Pak-Man on January 12, 2016, 07:17:04 AM
Give him a chance to show off his Quack-Fu!

EDIT TO ADD: Actually, the fact that they pulled in a talent like Seth Green JUST to voice that little end-credit scene tells me they have bigger plans for him. Or at least that they want to keep that option viable.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: RoninFox on January 12, 2016, 07:21:04 AM
Give him a chance to show off his Quack-Fu!

EDIT TO ADD: Actually, the fact that they pulled in a talent like Seth Green JUST to voice that little end-credit scene tells me they have bigger plans for him. Or at least that they want to keep that option viable.

Knowing how big Seth Green is, it could be a matter of him and James Gunn having a drink one day.

Gunn: You wanna be Howard the Duck?

Green: Name the f***ing time!
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: LucasM on March 05, 2016, 09:17:21 PM
I really hope this is not the case!  Adam Warlock is basically a perpetual-30-year old, as he regenerates in his cocoon (seen briefly at the end of Thor: Dark World and for a slightly longer time in Guardians 1).

Quote
Kurt Russell To Play Adam Warlock/Magus In Guardians of the Galaxy 2? (http://peeltheorange.net/2016/03/03/kurt-russell-to-play-adam-warlock-magus-in-guardians-of-the-galaxy-2/)

The casting of Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 has been underway. While curiosity is on who will play this mystery man that is Star-Lord’s father, many are quick to attach Kurt Russell to the role. The two mysteries for the upcoming Marvel sequel are: who is Star-Lord’s father, and will Kurt Russell be playing him?

(http://www.chud.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/1138653-kurt-russell.jpg)

Volume One left us with Yondu (Michael Rooker) and his crew knowing the man who gave DNA to Peter Quill. Though, director/writer James Gunn says that he won’t be his father from the comics: J’Son of Spartax.

Well, we don’t know who his father is yet, but we might know who Kurt Russell will be playing. An unnamed source close to the situation has brought this to our attention:
(Kurt) Russell has been tapped to play the legendary hero, Adam Warlock, and his evil twin, Magus. Marvel felt that his talent as a veteran actor would fit into the cosmic character.

Whether or not Warlock will be Star-Lord’s father is still be a mystery. However, it’s great to know that his presence will be available for the Infinity War against Thanos, as he was a major player of such in the comics.

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/8d/d6/10/8dd610c86762d1b4ef48f3225c934679.jpg)

Before you pass this rumor off as BS, remember that Marvel has been known to throw us some curve balls. And after all, the little information we got on Star-Lord’s dad from the first installment was that he was part of a lone, unknown race.

What do you make of this? Will Kurt Russell actually be playing Adam Warlock? Further more, will Warlock be Star-Lord’s dad in the MCU?

Back in the 'Escape From New York' days, I could have seen it (barely).  But now?  He's just plain too friggin' old to play Adam Warlock (though oddly I could see him as the Magus... ???).  Now if 'Escape From New York'-age Kurt Russell played Adam Warlock, and current-day Kurt Russell played the Magus, that maybe I could see.

And personally, I'd say a big "no" to Warlock being anyone's father (unless he mated with 'Her' [that was her name from the comics]).
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Darth Geek on March 05, 2016, 09:32:04 PM
Sounds like good casting to me. But then I'm not familiar with the comic character. If Adam Warlock is going to have a major role in taking down Thanos, I'm glad he'll be played by a badass like Russell.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: ScottotD on March 05, 2016, 11:30:07 PM
I really hope this is not the case!  Adam Warlock is basically a perpetual-30-year old, as he regenerates in his cocoon (seen briefly at the end of Thor: Dark World and for a slightly longer time in Guardians 1).

Quote
Kurt Russell To Play Adam Warlock/Magus In Guardians of the Galaxy 2? (http://peeltheorange.net/2016/03/03/kurt-russell-to-play-adam-warlock-magus-in-guardians-of-the-galaxy-2/)

The casting of Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 has been underway. While curiosity is on who will play this mystery man that is Star-Lord’s father, many are quick to attach Kurt Russell to the role. The two mysteries for the upcoming Marvel sequel are: who is Star-Lord’s father, and will Kurt Russell be playing him?

(http://www.chud.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/1138653-kurt-russell.jpg)

Volume One left us with Yondu (Michael Rooker) and his crew knowing the man who gave DNA to Peter Quill. Though, director/writer James Gunn says that he won’t be his father from the comics: J’Son of Spartax.

Well, we don’t know who his father is yet, but we might know who Kurt Russell will be playing. An unnamed source close to the situation has brought this to our attention:
(Kurt) Russell has been tapped to play the legendary hero, Adam Warlock, and his evil twin, Magus. Marvel felt that his talent as a veteran actor would fit into the cosmic character.

Whether or not Warlock will be Star-Lord’s father is still be a mystery. However, it’s great to know that his presence will be available for the Infinity War against Thanos, as he was a major player of such in the comics.

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/8d/d6/10/8dd610c86762d1b4ef48f3225c934679.jpg)

Before you pass this rumor off as BS, remember that Marvel has been known to throw us some curve balls. And after all, the little information we got on Star-Lord’s dad from the first installment was that he was part of a lone, unknown race.

What do you make of this? Will Kurt Russell actually be playing Adam Warlock? Further more, will Warlock be Star-Lord’s dad in the MCU?

Back in the 'Escape From New York' days, I could have seen it (barely).  But now?  He's just plain too friggin' old to play Adam Warlock (though oddly I could see him as the Magus... ???).  Now if 'Escape From New York'-age Kurt Russell played Adam Warlock, and current-day Kurt Russell played the Magus, that maybe I could see.

And personally, I'd say a big "no" to Warlock being anyone's father (unless he mated with 'Her' [that was her name from the comics]).

You're forgetting an important thing...

KURT
RUSSELL
IS
GOD
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Johnny Unusual on March 09, 2016, 06:25:31 PM
I don't buy it.  Adam Warlock's deal feels too big for the movie.  I also don't think that Adam Warlock will be showing up before the Infinity War.  I could see him appearing post-Infinity War (which might have him ending up with one of the stones).
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: LucasM on March 13, 2016, 08:41:12 PM
(https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/1979612_1321791304504105_175383539211540424_n.jpg?oh=d606d5451bab32957e06eb203b54ff78&oe=575554A1)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Hebs on March 14, 2016, 10:46:50 AM
AHHhahahahaha very good
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Johnny Unusual on March 15, 2016, 07:40:13 AM
I'm starting to think that perhaps Marty Feldman spread his seed a little more than was thought!
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Edward J Grug III on March 20, 2016, 10:26:03 PM
http://www.themarysue.com/marvel-one-shots/
http://www.themarysue.com/jeremy-renner-hawkeye-netflix-show/
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: ScottotD on March 20, 2016, 10:47:07 PM
http://www.themarysue.com/marvel-one-shots/
http://www.themarysue.com/jeremy-renner-hawkeye-netflix-show/

YAY!
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: k1 on March 21, 2016, 05:48:54 AM
I would be ok with that!
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Darth Geek on March 21, 2016, 06:42:25 AM
That sounds interesting. My first choice would be a Black Widow movie, but a TV show would be good too. I just wonder how long Scarlett Johanson wants to play the character.

I bet if next year's Wonder Woman movie is good, or at least very sucessful, Marvel might think more about doing a Black Widow movie.
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Post by: Edward J Grug III on March 21, 2016, 05:18:27 PM
That sounds interesting. My first choice would be a Black Widow movie, but a TV show would be good too. I just wonder how long Scarlett Johanson wants to play the character.

I bet if next year's Wonder Woman movie is good, or at least very sucessful, Marvel might think more about doing a Black Widow movie.

The buzz I've read is that Wonder Woman is the stand-out of BvS.

I want a Black Widow movie too, though she would be really well suited for a series.

I can't stand Jeremy Renner, but Hawkeye could really benifit from a TV series that made him into a character.
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Post by: The Lurker on April 02, 2016, 04:07:05 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/U5aen3W.jpg)
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Post by: BiteMe316 on April 02, 2016, 04:44:46 PM
Who the holy fucking hell is he supposed to be????  I don't read comics.
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Post by: Edward J Grug III on April 02, 2016, 05:05:11 PM
Richie Rich
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Post by: Darth Geek on April 02, 2016, 06:16:28 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/U5aen3W.jpg)
Is it too much to hope that he plays it like Dr. Orpheus from Venture Brothers?

https://www.youtube.com/v/eI346Sn4boc
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: BiteMe316 on April 03, 2016, 04:50:36 AM
Richie Rich

Fuck off.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: LucasM on April 05, 2016, 10:47:09 PM
Wow... sometimes reincarnation's a bitch!
(https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtp1/v/t1.0-9/12963368_1345151438834758_8237381506408094338_n.jpg?oh=12aa8c5483da038cf4ea4a8d2a8dc0b6&oe=57BBB0BB)
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Post by: ScottotD on April 05, 2016, 11:48:18 PM
 :clap:
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Post by: SJP on April 06, 2016, 11:29:16 AM
I'm a little sad that so far, according to Google search, even though we have official pictures from filming, there are no memes of "Otter Strange" yet.

The Otter/Benedict Cumberbatch thingie is still a thing, right?  I'm a little behind on my trends.
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Post by: Johnny Unusual on April 07, 2016, 08:37:14 AM
Wow... sometimes reincarnation's a bitch!
(https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtp1/v/t1.0-9/12963368_1345151438834758_8237381506408094338_n.jpg?oh=12aa8c5483da038cf4ea4a8d2a8dc0b6&oe=57BBB0BB)

Ho!
Ly!
SHIT!

I completely didn't think about that till now.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: BathTub on April 07, 2016, 03:33:19 PM
I'm missing why it's a bitch though.
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Post by: Edward J Grug III on April 07, 2016, 06:32:17 PM
http://www.avclub.com/article/freeform-gets-marvel-bandwagon-green-lights-cloak--234935
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Post by: LucasM on April 07, 2016, 06:44:10 PM
I'm missing why it's a bitch though.

Because as Mordo, Chewitel's 'spirit' has the power to make things very difficult for Benedict's character.  [At least that was my thought.]
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Post by: ScottotD on April 07, 2016, 06:46:19 PM
Wait, I thought Chewitel was Black Panther.  Who's Black Panther?

*EDIT

Oh right, the guy from 42
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Post by: Johnny Unusual on April 07, 2016, 09:36:12 PM
http://www.avclub.com/article/freeform-gets-marvel-bandwagon-green-lights-cloak--234935

This could be cool.  I'd rather see a Runaways series, though.
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Post by: Edward J Grug III on April 07, 2016, 09:39:23 PM
http://www.avclub.com/article/freeform-gets-marvel-bandwagon-green-lights-cloak--234935

This could be cool.  I'd rather see a Runaways series, though.

I've seen that response a lot - I wonder if Runaways is really possible to do well on a TV budget?
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: goflyblind on April 08, 2016, 04:51:43 AM
aren't also like half of them mutants (though, i suppose they could change them to inhumans)?
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Johnny Unusual on April 08, 2016, 07:30:30 AM
No, only one is a mutant (granted, the best one).  Basically, the premise is that they are all the children of different types of supervillains.

Alex Wilder is the son of more traditional (but talented) criminals
Chase Stein is the son of mad scientists
Gert Yorkes is the daughter of time travelers
Molly Hayes is the daughter of mutant terrorists
Karolina Dean is the daughter of evil aliens
and
Nico Minoru is the daughter of magicians

The only really hard part, I think, might be Old Lace.  Other stuff I think is pretty doable.
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Post by: Kete on April 08, 2016, 07:37:19 AM
No, only one is a mutant (granted, the best one).  Basically, the premise is that they are all the children of different types of supervillains.

Alex Wilder is the son of more traditional (but talented) criminals
Chase Stein is the son of mad scientists
Gert Yorkes is the daughter of time travelers
Molly Hayes is the daughter of mutant terrorists
Karolina Dean is the daughter of evil aliens
and
Nico Minoru is the daughter of magicians

The only really hard part, I think, might be Old Lace.  Other stuff I think is pretty doable.

They already did this:
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/14/Disneys_Descendants.jpg)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Edward J Grug III on April 08, 2016, 02:55:45 PM
How did the effects in The Descendants look? And it was a movie, not a series right? Even if it was made for tv.

Having a dinosaur as one of the characters is the biggest hurdle for sure, but the whole lot adds up to a lot of effects work.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: The Lurker on April 12, 2016, 11:01:40 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/uS7psPs.jpg)
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Post by: Edward J Grug III on April 12, 2016, 03:16:27 PM
What a great poster!
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Post by: Kete on April 12, 2016, 03:34:03 PM
What a great poster!

Who? Me?
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Edward J Grug III on April 12, 2016, 07:07:57 PM
Please tell me this is a late April Fools Day joke?
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Post by: Edward J Grug III on April 12, 2016, 07:09:10 PM
Oh wait, it is
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: LucasM on April 12, 2016, 07:43:41 PM
Please tell me this is a late April Fools Day joke?

Yup - just deleted it because I looked further into it.

I don't know about other people, but 'April Fools' pisses me off.
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Post by: Edward J Grug III on April 12, 2016, 07:50:31 PM
Me too! ESPECIALLY when people don't mark their pranks explicitly pranks after the 1st.
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Post by: LucasM on April 12, 2016, 09:24:03 PM
Yeah, a notice at the bottom is fine ON the day, but afterwards, it should be in larger (or at least AS large) a type as the 'article' title, and be ABOVE the title.  That way, unless you felt like it, you wouldn't waste your time on it (or expend effort sharing something that is just written feces).

The article had been linked as a "you might also be interested in" item on Facebook when I clicked a Marvel link.


(Oh, unrelated: the Doc Strange teaser trailer is INCREDIBLE! I'd link to it, but I couldn't find a way with the way it was prepped on Facebook.)
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Post by: BathTub on April 12, 2016, 10:00:01 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/sMcMH6m.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/v/Lt-U_t2pUHI
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Post by: LucasM on April 13, 2016, 03:00:38 AM
Man I must be REALLY f'king out of it!  Duh: a major source video you want to share: look on YouTube! ::)


EDIT: Marvel meets Inception3:  [spoiler is for GIF from the teaser - frankly, as much as I hate spoilers I wish I hadn't seen any of this so I could be blown away by it in context, but when the vid started playing automatically on Facebook, I couldn't look away.]
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
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Post by: BathTub on April 13, 2016, 03:47:56 AM
hah I didn't notice him falling through the middle of it until the gif.
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Post by: ScottotD on April 13, 2016, 07:21:53 AM
Who cares about a trailer? the whole movie is already on YouTube

http://youtu.be/vNu6RVLXAR8
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Edward J Grug III on April 13, 2016, 05:00:36 PM
Empire Online said:

"Captain America: Civil War is the best Marvel Studios movie yet. There, we said it. "
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Post by: Pak-Man on April 13, 2016, 10:43:03 PM
IGN gave it a 7.8 out of 10, but I always disagree with them, so that's a good sign too!
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Post by: ScottotD on April 14, 2016, 03:07:14 AM

"Captain America: Civil War is the best Marvel Studios movie yet. There, we said it. "

*fans self*
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: k1 on April 14, 2016, 06:16:00 PM
Read an article on how Fox opened up talks to start crossing over their properties with Marvel. (X-Men & Avengers) as well as starting talks with Sony about the idea of a Deadpool/Spidey meeting.

I would love to see all of that happen but I would be skeptical of them all playing nicely and delivering a movie we fans dream of.
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Post by: Edward J Grug III on April 14, 2016, 06:27:30 PM
Personally I would rather they stuck to their own properties. I have enjoyed (to some degree) everything Marvel have done so far, and the same can't be said of the other studios. If anything is going to taint the MCU it will be letting the others in.
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Post by: SJP on April 14, 2016, 07:04:02 PM
"OK, I have a great idea!  Spider-Man and Deadpool meet, and then they fight!  Then, the Fantastic Four jump in, but they're not the REAL Fantastic Four...they're aliens!  And then a mummy shows up and starts attacking them, but it's not just any mummy, it's Mummstro the Great!  And then everyone reflects on their abilities as superheroes for THREE hours!  And for the climax, Spidey has to fight a super-big, ultra-mega huge, mechanical spider!  Neat, huh?"

"Sharon, would you get somebody to remove Jon Peters from my office, please?" ;)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: LucasM on April 14, 2016, 07:17:50 PM
Personally I would rather they stuck to their own properties. I have enjoyed (to some degree) everything Marvel have done so far, and the same can't be said of the other studios. If anything is going to taint the MCU it will be letting the others in.

I'm LucasM, and I approve this comment.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Darth Geek on April 15, 2016, 07:21:36 AM
I like the fact that they are all willing to play nice with each other now. But we are already getting saturated with comic book movies. And a lot of them are already getting overstuffed with characters, and being overlong partly because of that. I don't need the Fantastic Four included in an Avengers movie if they aren't going to be necessary for the story. I think it'd be more interesting to see smaller movies like Deadpool that have one or two side characters that might be from other studios, that a jam packed event movie. It'd also be a much smaller investment risk for the studios too.

Actually I just had a really interesting idea. What if in the background of one movie you could see the events of a scene from another movie, and vice versa. Maybe in the Spider-man movie you can see Deadpool doing something, and then in the next Deadpool movie Wade tries and fails to get Spider-man to help him because Spidey is dealing with all the stuff going on in his own movie. Deadpool watching from afar the climactic destruction from the Spider-man movie, talking about how he's glad he doesn't have to deal with all of that.
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Post by: Kete on April 15, 2016, 07:25:44 AM
Actually I just had a really interesting idea. What if in the background of one movie you could see the events of a scene from another movie, and vice versa. Maybe in the Spider-man movie you can see Deadpool doing something, and then in the next Deadpool movie Wade tries and fails to get Spider-man to help him because Spidey is dealing with all the stuff going on in his own movie. Deadpool watching from afar the climactic destruction from the Spider-man movie, talking about how he's glad he doesn't have to deal with all of that.

They did something like that Batman v Superman, and that's one of the things I really liked about that movie.
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Post by: Darth Geek on April 15, 2016, 07:26:59 AM

They did something like that Batman v Superman, and that's one of the things I really liked about that movie.
You mean at the beginning when Bruce Wayne sees the destruction from Man of Steel?
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Post by: Kete on April 15, 2016, 07:27:20 AM

They did something like that Batman v Superman, and that's one of the things I really liked about that movie.
You mean at the beginning when Bruce Wayne sees the destruction from Man of Steel?

Yes.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Johnny Unusual on April 17, 2016, 06:34:43 PM
I like the fact that they are all willing to play nice with each other now.

Though I have no doubt a lot of the "playing nice" is done with a fair amount of tension (I'd certainly like to be wrong about that).
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Darth Geek on April 17, 2016, 07:40:14 PM
I like the fact that they are all willing to play nice with each other now.

Though I have no doubt a lot of the "playing nice" is done with a fair amount of tension (I'd certainly like to be wrong about that).
Well, it is all with a lot of money exchanging hands of course. But the fact that they are willing to do it at all is a big deal.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: LucasM on April 18, 2016, 01:40:20 AM
I like the fact that they are all willing to play nice with each other now.
Though I have no doubt a lot of the "playing nice" is done with a fair amount of tension (I'd certainly like to be wrong about that).
Well, it is all with a lot of money exchanging hands of course. But the fact that they are willing to do it at all is a big deal.

Yeah... I suspect money, and Fox saying, "we've screwed up three Fantastic Four films - if we don't actually have Marvel participate, we'll lose the franchise...  'cuz we sure as hell aren't going to sink hundreds of millions more into our own incompetent attempts that fail so miserably at the box office."  [Though honestly I felt some tiny parts of Rise of the Silver Surfer were OK, but the majority of the first attempt at the FF was garbage because they used too much Ultimate Fantastic Four.  Then of course the most recent so-called FF was total garbage because 'Ultimate' was all they used (and they didn't even do that well... not that Ultimate FF was terribly interesting to begin with).]
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Post by: ScottotD on April 18, 2016, 01:46:57 AM
Hundreds of millions? the first two F4 movies looked like  they cost $12.
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Post by: Johnny Unusual on April 18, 2016, 07:19:30 PM
Yeah, the first two Fantastic Four movies were critical flops, but I think the cheapness and decent enough ticket sales helped them recoup financially, unlike the most recent movie.
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Post by: Darth Geek on April 18, 2016, 07:43:07 PM
Box Office Mojo has the budgets for Fantastic Four and Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer as $100 million and $130 million respectively.
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Post by: MrTorso on April 18, 2016, 08:11:50 PM
Personally I would rather they stuck to their own properties. I have enjoyed (to some degree) everything Marvel have done so far, and the same can't be said of the other studios. If anything is going to taint the MCU it will be letting the others in.

There was quote from I think Kevn Feige talking about the other studio properties and he equated the properties to a car. The other studios would still own the car but they would be doing all the driving.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Edward J Grug III on April 18, 2016, 08:17:27 PM
Personally I would rather they stuck to their own properties. I have enjoyed (to some degree) everything Marvel have done so far, and the same can't be said of the other studios. If anything is going to taint the MCU it will be letting the others in.

There was quote from I think Kevn Feige talking about the other studio properties and he equated the properties to a car. The other studios would still own the car but they would be doing all the driving.

Yeah, that's this year, but what happens down the line? Do they have a forced 'reboot' clause if they decide to tell Marvel to go fly a kite?
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: RoninFox on April 19, 2016, 05:06:54 AM
The budget of a movie doesn't always indicate how cheap it'll look. For example: The Ridiculous 6, the terrible Adam Sandler direct-to-Netflix scam of a movie that looked like it was thrown together with cheap-ass cameras over a weekend cost $60,000,000.  The Hateful Eight, the fantastic looking movie that gave Sandler the title idea, was filmed with bigger stars and on an older more expensive format only cost $2,000,000 more.
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Post by: LucasM on April 19, 2016, 11:32:16 AM
the terrible Adam Sandler... movie

redundant
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Post by: RoninFox on April 19, 2016, 01:48:41 PM
the terrible Adam Sandler... movie

redundant

I had several extra adjectives and adverbs that I cut down to terrible, but I couldn't bring myself to part with it.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: LucasM on April 23, 2016, 01:20:03 AM
Well...  that blows....

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INHUMANS No Longer Has a Release Date (http://nerdist.com/inhumans-no-longer-has-a-release-date/)

Ch-ch-changes! After reports from Twitter that Marvel Phase 3 film, Inhumans—slated for 2019—was pushed with no release date in sight, we here at Nerdist can now confirm that to be true.

Though the news is not a total surprise, as on April 11, 2016, Kevin Feige spoke with Entertainment Weekly and explained that he expected the film to be pushed back. Today is the first confirmed indication from Marvel/Disney.

Why the change of heart? Well, since the announcement of the Marvel film slate in 2014, there have been a lot of changes. The release dates of Captain Marvel and Black Panther were shifted to make way for new projects such as Thor: Ragnarok, and Spider-Man: Homecoming in 2017. Recently, Marvel also announced a sequel to the 2015 Ant-Man film, Ant-Man and Wasp. In addition, Disney has a few films of their own releasing within this time frame, so in order to not create friction, the Inhumans movie was moved.

Feige confirmed with Collider that the Inhumans film will still happen, he is just not sure when:

    “Since we made our initial phase three announcement, we added Spider-Man, which was a big joyous coup for us. We added Ant-Man and the Wasp, which was a big fun continuation of that story for us. Walt Disney Company has announced an Indiana Jones film for right around that same time. So I think it will shuffle off the current date that it’s on right now. How far down it shuffles, I’m not sure yet.”

If you watch Marvel’s Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D., you already know they introduced the Inhumans by way of one of the main characters, Chloe Bennett. However, that only scratches the surface on the Inhumans. In fact, the Inhumans are a royal family of meta-humans lead by the king and queen of their species, Black Bolt and Medusa. Their powers originate from the Terrigen Mists, as younger members must travel into the mist to obtain their power.

Feige is a huge fan of the Inhumans series and has been pushing for a film since the very beginning, so we’re far from ready to give up hope just yet.
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Post by: Edward J Grug III on April 25, 2016, 06:49:03 PM
http://www.vulture.com/2016/04/nathan-fillion-marvel-cinematic-universe-guardians.html?mid=facebook_vulture#
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Post by: Darth Geek on April 25, 2016, 07:28:32 PM
http://www.vulture.com/2016/04/nathan-fillion-marvel-cinematic-universe-guardians.html?mid=facebook_vulture#
That's awesome! I just hope that doesn't mean the movie takes place on Earth, or even close to it.
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Post by: Edward J Grug III on April 25, 2016, 07:31:29 PM
I bet it'll involve flashbacks to StarLord's dad's time on Earth.
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Post by: ScottotD on April 25, 2016, 07:33:23 PM
So we got likes back but lost links?
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Post by: Edward J Grug III on April 25, 2016, 07:39:50 PM
I'm not having any link issues - What's happening for you?
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Post by: ScottotD on April 25, 2016, 07:49:31 PM
Photobucket Oops!
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Post by: Edward J Grug III on April 25, 2016, 08:00:05 PM
Ah. It might have been an issue with PB itself - As I can see them again now.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: LucasM on April 25, 2016, 08:53:32 PM
I bet it'll involve flashbacks to StarLord's dad's time on Earth.

Which would be awesome, because it could mean a likely already-powered Simon Williams when he appears for (presumably) Infinity War.  :)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Johnny Unusual on April 28, 2016, 10:03:27 PM
I'm guessing Simon is going to be a small, non-superhero character, at least for a while.  Nathan Fillion going full superhero would be awesome, though.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: LucasM on May 31, 2016, 03:16:35 PM
This is how Marvel gets around the 'Universal has rights to solo Hulk movies':

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Exclusive Scoop: Thor: Ragnarok & Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 details! (http://www.joblo.com/movie-news/exclusive-scoop-thor-ragnarok-guardians-of-the-galaxy-vol-2-details-316)

A few weeks ago we got a hefty dose of info on the third solo outing for Thor  with THOR: RAGNAROK with a number of casting announcements and a few sparse details that tease the story. Now, you’ll recall that we broke the casting news of Mark Ruffalo back in October of last year, which has obviously been confirmed since then. The other new additions announced last week are Cate Blanchett as Hela, Karl Urban as Skurge, Jeff Goldblum as The Grandmaster, and Tessa Thompson as Valkyrie (and yes, even Jaimie Alexander has assured us she’ll return as Sif).

Since our initial report of Ruffalo appearing as Hulk in the film we’ve heard rumors of how the story will play out and just how “Planet Hulk” the film will be. Well, here’s what we know: The film will definitely have the Planet Hulk element in it, operating as a kind of mash-up with the Ragnarok story. How Thor ends up on the planet in question is unclear, but he will definitely be involved in some gladiatorial games run by none other than Jeff Goldblum’s Grandmaster. In terms of Hulk’s appearance in this portion of the film, he will be rocking the one-shoulder armor as seen in the comics, so expect him to be decked out in the familiar Planet Hulk look.

And speaking of appearances, expect a major change in the look of The God of Thunder himself for this part of the film as he will be sporting a shaved head (but not completely bald) for at least a portion of the film. Also, expect a very different look for Tessa Thompson’s Valkyrie, who is traditionally a blonde-haired warrior type in the comics. For RAGNAROK she’ll be wearing war paint on her face, much like a Native American warrior, which should be an interesting take on this variation of the character.

In terms of story, there’s still much in the air, but the gist of Thor’s mission in the film is that he needs to find the ultimate weapon to stop Ragnarok and reset the universe. What is that weapon and how does he gets set on that path? Your guess is as good as ours, but the whole thing just sounds like a big ball of awesome already, so we’re on board with whatever direction they go. With the official cast details released last week and now more on the look and feel of the film, THOR: RAGNAROK is sounding more and more like a solid event film more so than another solo outing. Sound familiar? I’m pretty sure the solo Marvel films will only remain as such for the first outing with each new sequel being more of an ensemble piece going forward. Expect to see that across the board and we’ve already seen it trickling into the comic book films of DC and Fox’s X-Men films. It’s the new shit, so settle in.

With this, potentially it will be considerably more interesting than the comic book World War Hulk was.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: LucasM on May 31, 2016, 07:56:50 PM
I wasn't in a position to comment at the time I posted the previous, but the second half of that article was FAR more meaningful to me, and happy for me to read.  For those who have read my extensive diatribes on the necessary presence of Adam Warlock in the MCU prior to Infinity War (short form: Infinity War without Adam Warlock is like DC trying to do 'The Killing Joke' without Batman).  The second half of that article was this [link is title in above post]:

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Now, on top of the Thor scoopage, we also have some tidbits on GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY VOL. 2, although these are more confirmations than brand new scoopage, so adjust your expectations accordingly.

Director James Gunn is hip deep in production on GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY VOL. 2 and thus far we don’t know too much about what he has in store for the next iteration of Marvel’s space-set franchise. But, just to get caught up before I put out this latest bit of info, here’s what we know so far.

Now, outside of Chris Pratt, Zoe Saldana, Bradley Cooper, Dave Bautista, and Vin Diesel returning to their respective roles in the film, we also have some new players in town, including Pom Klementieff as Mantis, Chris Sullivan as Taserface, Tommy Flanagan as Tullk, and three other actors in mysterious, unknown roles, including Sylvester Stallone and Kurt Russell, with one of them presumably being Star-Lord’s long-lost father, although that’s not something I can confirm at all. Just my own speculation.

However, there’s one other star that we don’t know of yet and that’s Elizabeth Debicki, who you may know from THE MAN FROM U.N.C.L.E., THE GREAT GATSBY, and The Night Manager. Now, although we can’t confirm that she’s playing this specific role, we can confirm who the main villain of GUARDIANS 2 is…and it fits Debicki quite well.

The villain is none other than Ayesha aka Her aka Kismet aka Paragon. Yes, she’s gone by many names and had quite a few forms in the comics, but almost always as a blonde goddess-like being. Comic Book Movie broke this back in March, so credit where it’s due, but we can confirm from our own independent sources that the villain in the film is, in fact, Ayesha.

Now, the significance of Ayesha in GUARDIANS 2 and the greater MCU is rather huge, especially when you consider that she was created by The Enclave, a group of scientists dedicated to taking control of the world, starting with the creation of the perfect genetic beings, made to restart humanity. Their first version of this, called HIM, would later evolve into the character known as Adam Warlock, who escaped The Enclave. However, The Enclave made a second being, which became HER aka Ayesha, who also escapes and goes looking for HIM, who she considers to be her perfect mate to start a new perfect race.

How much of that origin factors into GUARDIANS 2 we can’t say, but we know that Ayesha is the main antagonist for our fun-loving space criminals/superheroes and it certainly teases at some broader strokes into the cosmic realm of the MCU.

For them to include 'HER' but not 'HIM'?  Particularly when Gunn confirmed after GotG [1] that it was, indeed, Warlock's cocoon in the background in the Collector's collection?  It seems my concerns for a Warlock-free Infinity War are pretty clearly - and very happily ;D - smashed!
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Post by: Edward J Grug III on June 01, 2016, 07:57:30 PM
http://www.avclub.com/article/brie-larson-might-be-mcus-captain-marvel-237610
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Post by: ScottotD on June 01, 2016, 08:06:39 PM
I am 100% behind this  ;D

I wasn't in a position to comment at the time I posted the previous, but the second half of that article was FAR more meaningful to me, and happy for me to read.  For those who have read my extensive diatribes on the necessary presence of Adam Warlock in the MCU prior to Infinity War (short form: Infinity War without Adam Warlock is like DC trying to do 'The Killing Joke' without Batman).  The second half of that article was this [link is title in above post]:

Quote
Now, on top of the Thor scoopage, we also have some tidbits on GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY VOL. 2, although these are more confirmations than brand new scoopage, so adjust your expectations accordingly.

Director James Gunn is hip deep in production on GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY VOL. 2 and thus far we don’t know too much about what he has in store for the next iteration of Marvel’s space-set franchise. But, just to get caught up before I put out this latest bit of info, here’s what we know so far.

Now, outside of Chris Pratt, Zoe Saldana, Bradley Cooper, Dave Bautista, and Vin Diesel returning to their respective roles in the film, we also have some new players in town, including Pom Klementieff as Mantis, Chris Sullivan as Taserface, Tommy Flanagan as Tullk, and three other actors in mysterious, unknown roles, including Sylvester Stallone and Kurt Russell, with one of them presumably being Star-Lord’s long-lost father, although that’s not something I can confirm at all. Just my own speculation.

However, there’s one other star that we don’t know of yet and that’s Elizabeth Debicki, who you may know from THE MAN FROM U.N.C.L.E., THE GREAT GATSBY, and The Night Manager. Now, although we can’t confirm that she’s playing this specific role, we can confirm who the main villain of GUARDIANS 2 is…and it fits Debicki quite well.

The villain is none other than Ayesha aka Her aka Kismet aka Paragon. Yes, she’s gone by many names and had quite a few forms in the comics, but almost always as a blonde goddess-like being. Comic Book Movie broke this back in March, so credit where it’s due, but we can confirm from our own independent sources that the villain in the film is, in fact, Ayesha.

Now, the significance of Ayesha in GUARDIANS 2 and the greater MCU is rather huge, especially when you consider that she was created by The Enclave, a group of scientists dedicated to taking control of the world, starting with the creation of the perfect genetic beings, made to restart humanity. Their first version of this, called HIM, would later evolve into the character known as Adam Warlock, who escaped The Enclave. However, The Enclave made a second being, which became HER aka Ayesha, who also escapes and goes looking for HIM, who she considers to be her perfect mate to start a new perfect race.

How much of that origin factors into GUARDIANS 2 we can’t say, but we know that Ayesha is the main antagonist for our fun-loving space criminals/superheroes and it certainly teases at some broader strokes into the cosmic realm of the MCU.

For them to include 'HER' but not 'HIM'?  Particularly when Gunn confirmed after GotG [1] that it was, indeed, Warlock's cocoon in the background in the Collector's collection?  It seems my concerns for a Warlock-free Infinity War are pretty clearly - and very happily ;D - smashed!

Would there be anything stopping them from doing the Warlock story with Ayesha instead?
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Post by: Edward J Grug III on June 01, 2016, 08:12:23 PM
I doubt they'd cheat themselves out of another hero, would be the main reason. He's a pretty big name in the marvel cosmic universe.
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Post by: LucasM on June 02, 2016, 10:54:25 AM
I am 100% behind this  ;D

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Would there be anything stopping them from doing the Warlock story with Ayesha instead?

She never had the self-examination and psychological depth of 'HIM'/Adam Warlock.  Granted Marvel has altered its stories and characters in the films, but if she's the 'big bad' for GotG2, there's no way they could make her substitute for Warlock's presence in the MCU, because Adam Warlock was basically their cosmic messiah figure.  [Plus, Gunn confirmed with the first film that it was Warlock's cocoon in the Collector's collection.]
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Post by: stethacantus on June 02, 2016, 04:39:10 PM
I don't know if anyone brought this up yet, but if Universal still owns the film rights to The Hulk, is there anything preventing them from taking the current MCU version last seen in The Incredible Hulk ( 2008 ) and make a deal with FOX for the Hulk to cross over into their X-Men Cinematic Universe? Perhaps even having a movie where The Hulk fights The Thing ( assuming that FOX has not given up on the idea of including the FF in their X-mCU ). I know that there were stories recently of FOX wanting to link their X-Men franchise into the MCU, and if Disney and/or Marvel Studios is not interested in doing that, then Universal would be the back door option.
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Post by: Edward J Grug III on June 02, 2016, 05:18:55 PM
I don't know if anyone brought this up yet, but if Universal still owns the film rights to The Hulk, is there anything preventing them from taking the current MCU version last seen in The Incredible Hulk ( 2008 ) and make a deal with FOX for the Hulk to cross over into their X-Men Cinematic Universe? Perhaps even having a movie where The Hulk fights The Thing ( assuming that FOX has not given up on the idea of including the FF in their X-mCU ). I know that there were stories recently of FOX wanting to link their X-Men franchise into the MCU, and if Disney and/or Marvel Studios is not interested in doing that, then Universal would be the back door option.

I think it's not an outright ownership deal, so it's not as clear cut as that? I could be wrong though - it's been awhile since I read about the Hulk rights.

That also risks pissing off Marvel and them killing him off in the MCU, which would probably cost them more than it would make in the long run.
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Post by: Pak-Man on June 02, 2016, 08:10:28 PM
The way I understand it, Marvel owns Hulk outright, but Universal owns the distribution rights for any solo Hulk movies, so if Marvel wants to release, say, World War Hulk,  Universal gets a big piece of the pie. Universal can't do anything with Hulk but release movies Marvel made.
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Post by: Darth Geek on June 02, 2016, 08:52:14 PM
I am 100% behind this  ;D

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Would there be anything stopping them from doing the Warlock story with Ayesha instead?

She never had the self-examination and psychological depth of 'HIM'/Adam Warlock.  Granted Marvel has altered its stories and characters in the films, but if she's the 'big bad' for GotG2, there's no way they could make her substitute for Warlock's presence in the MCU, because Adam Warlock was basically their cosmic messiah figure.  [Plus, Gunn confirmed with the first film that it was Warlock's cocoon in the Collector's collection.]
Ugh, the last thing these creative, interesting and fun Marvel movies need is the tired overused "messiah" trope.
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Post by: LucasM on June 02, 2016, 09:55:27 PM
I am 100% behind this  ;D

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Would there be anything stopping them from doing the Warlock story with Ayesha instead?
She never had the self-examination and psychological depth of 'HIM'/Adam Warlock.  Granted Marvel has altered its stories and characters in the films, but if she's the 'big bad' for GotG2, there's no way they could make her substitute for Warlock's presence in the MCU, because Adam Warlock was basically their cosmic messiah figure.  [Plus, Gunn confirmed with the first film that it was Warlock's cocoon in the Collector's collection.]
Ugh, the last thing these creative, interesting and fun Marvel movies need is the tired overused "messiah" trope.

It is highly unlikely they would do that story, as the original crucifixion (on Counter Earth) was 'pre-Starlin', and the MCU has - from almost day 1 - been Starlin based, as Thanos (Starlin's first comic character creation) has been a driving force since Thor 1.  Plus, the more direct messianic aspects were prior to Infinity War, and, in order to be addressed, would have to be its own film.

And just FYI: Given that the original Starlin stories were released starting in 1975, they predated the 'messiah-rush' that's been present in so much since.

Personally I would love to have seen the first Starlin Warlock run (Strange Tales 178 to Marvel Two-In-One Annual 2) adapted to film.  But the chances are highly unlikely for that to happen for numerous reasons.  [Another FYI: Joss Whedon has said that he feels that ST176-M2iOAnn2) is possibly the best comic story every published... I agree.  (I think only Moore's Miracleman and Watchmen come close.)]
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Post by: Kete on June 03, 2016, 06:28:40 AM
NERDS!
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Post by: Compound on July 24, 2016, 12:15:18 AM
SDCC News:

Ms. Larson is indeed Carol Danvers.
(http://geekandsundry.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/image15.jpeg)

Presumably Brie will be back to being blonde before shooting starts.

Michael Rooker showed up in costume.
(http://www.comicbookresources.com/imgsrv/imglib/450/0/1/13769436-10153490064721157-168115084886789964-n-8e7a4.jpg)

The bad guy in Black Panther will be
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(Looks it up.) Real character. Oh. Created in 1973. Yeah, that sounds like something they'd do back then. Or in the 90s.

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Post by: ScottotD on July 24, 2016, 03:45:50 AM
I assume Ulysses Klaue will be in there too
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Post by: Russoguru on July 24, 2016, 06:03:45 PM
I love seeing Michael Rooker wearing the huge mohawk. That's pretty awesome and makes him look even more like the Yondu from the comic books. I gotta admit though, I love the coat and the whistle-controlled arrow, that's just too damn cool.
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Post by: Kete on July 24, 2016, 06:40:04 PM
I assume Ulysses Klaue will be in there too

I was really looking forward to having Andy Serkis in it, but I do like Michael B Jordan too.
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Post by: LucasM on July 24, 2016, 09:05:36 PM
New Marvel Studios logo.

http://www.youtube-nocookie.com/v/ZKxxmxU8GNo
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Post by: SJP on July 28, 2016, 01:35:17 PM
I like how it's doing that comic-to-movie transition effect...but wow, that's long for a studio logo.  I foresee it getting trimmed down in a few installments down the road.
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Post by: Edward J Grug III on July 28, 2016, 05:14:53 PM
I like how it's doing that comic-to-movie transition effect...but wow, that's long for a studio logo.  I foresee it getting trimmed down in a few installments down the road.

Yeah, way too long. I liked the old one better.
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Post by: Darth Geek on July 28, 2016, 05:26:40 PM
It feels like they couldn't decide on one and just used all of them.
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Post by: LucasM on July 28, 2016, 06:37:03 PM
Agree with the majority of these comments: 5-10 seconds tops would be appropriate.  37 seconds is WAY too long.  And I think if they did quick transitions from printed comics poses to equivalent movie poses for the characters, that would be even better, since they seem to want to draw the link between the two.
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Post by: Edward J Grug III on July 28, 2016, 06:43:14 PM
It's possible this is a generic one and the ones for each movie will be tailored and shorter, now that I think about it.

Don't the previous movies have versions specifically relating to the character in the film?
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Post by: Darth Geek on July 28, 2016, 06:45:27 PM
It's possible this is a generic one and the ones for each movie will be tailored and shorter, now that I think about it.

Don't the previous movies have versions specifically relating to the character in the film?
They did that for HULK (2003), but I don't remember if they did that for any of the others.
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Post by: Edward J Grug III on July 28, 2016, 07:02:04 PM
It's possible this is a generic one and the ones for each movie will be tailored and shorter, now that I think about it.

Don't the previous movies have versions specifically relating to the character in the film?
They did that for HULK (2003), but I don't remember if they did that for any of the others.

Just found a youtube video, and yeah, it looks like you are right.

Oh well.
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Post by: Russoguru on July 28, 2016, 07:14:35 PM
It's gonna be amazing. I know it sounds like a long time, but Infinity War part 1 is less than 2 years away now. It's going to be epic seeing Dr Strange, Iron Man, War Machine, Vision, Hulk, Captain America, Thor, Black Widow, Hawkeye, Black Panther, Scarlet Witch, Ant-man, Falcon, Spider-man, Star Lord, Gamora, Nebula, Drax, Groot, Rocket, Yondu, all mingling with each other and working together. Damn, I'm just glad the Russo's have this. What they do is going to be super fun and will bring tears to the eyes of many a fanboy.
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Post by: LucasM on July 28, 2016, 08:48:54 PM
EDIT: Apologies: this apparently was NOT posted by Marvel as previously believed!  The Russos are still being highly secretive about who will be present, so it is unlikely that a cast list would be released if they are keeping things secret.

Russoguru, I forgot to post this after finding it (posted by Marvel, so likely believable).  Your post reminded me of it.

This is apparently the already-confirmed 'big' cast for the film:
(http://i432.photobucket.com/albums/qq49/LucasM06/Avengers%20-%20Infinity%20War%20-%20cast%20thus%20far_zpsnnytv9vc.png)

So there will be TV crossover, too, as it shows Netflix actors and SHIELD actors and alums. ;D
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Post by: Russoguru on July 28, 2016, 10:33:19 PM
Well, what can I say to THAT except... WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;D
Thank you Lucas. :) Didn't see that yet.
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Post by: ScottotD on July 28, 2016, 11:03:26 PM
It's too soon but surely there's a Garry Marshall movie mash-up with this somewhere?
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Post by: LucasM on July 29, 2016, 01:09:43 AM
One of the funny thoughts that crosses my mind when looking at the long list of heavy-hitters in that cast?

"But... after all their paychecks, there won't be anything left in the budget for them to actually DO anything!"

 ;D
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Post by: Darth Geek on July 29, 2016, 06:08:16 AM
I'm glad that Clark Gregg is in it. I like Agents of Shield, and was disappointed that Agent Coulson wasn't in Avengers 2. Not even a mention to them that their friend they mourned wasn't dead?
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Post by: Pak-Man on July 29, 2016, 08:54:40 AM
Yeah. Super-thrilled to see the Agents involved. The show has been at its best when it's playing off the events of the movies. Even though I'm sure they'll be more like brief cameos.
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Post by: LucasM on July 29, 2016, 11:07:07 AM
Yeah. Super-thrilled to see the Agents involved. The show has been at its best when it's playing off the events of the movies. Even though I'm sure they'll be more like brief cameos quick Thanos kills.

There, fixed it for you. ;D
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Post by: LucasM on August 06, 2016, 07:45:38 PM
Brie Larson studying up for her role (note what she's wearing)...
(https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13907166_1441541199195781_145385401801325516_n.jpg?oh=fec9c8f7db78c53ea0c2ed41caf08537&oe=581EFDF1)
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Post by: Russoguru on August 10, 2016, 07:52:54 PM
Very cool. I'm sure most of the other actors/actresses in the MCU do the same.
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Post by: LucasM on August 10, 2016, 09:45:55 PM
Quite true, Boseman repeatedly mentioned (in 2016 SDCC interviews) that he went back and read everything on Black Panther when he got the role, Cumberbatch said the same with Dr Strange, so I have no doubt that is part of most of their process.  Though I do remember one actor (don't recall which it was, but it was ONLY one) that said that they avoided doing so in order to not bring any preconceived ideas about the character to the film - so they could simply let the screenwriter and director tell them who the character was.

The especially cool thing about the pic of Larson is that she's wearing a Ms Marvel-costume jacket while doing the back reading.  Now THAT is commitment to a part! :)
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Post by: Russoguru on August 11, 2016, 10:17:38 PM
I remember in The Winter Soldier where that guy mentioned Stephen Strange was a target for project Insight because he would have been a threat to Hydra. I know it probably won't happen, but it would be awesome to see Dr Strange fight some Hydra soldiers along with Loki. I'm presuming Dr Strange can see through magical illusions, so Loki would be no match for him.
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Post by: Darth Geek on August 12, 2016, 06:56:17 AM
I remember in The Winter Soldier where that guy mentioned Stephen Strange was a target for project Insight because he would have been a threat to Hydra.
I wondered about that. So will the Doctor Strange movie take place before the events of Winter Soldier? Because otherwise Strange would just be a surgeon at that point. Why would he be a threat?


I'm presuming Dr Strange can see through magical illusions, so Loki would be no match for him.
Loki is an Asgardian God. I think he would be more than a formidable foe for Doctor Strange.
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Post by: RoninFox on August 12, 2016, 09:30:09 AM
I remember in The Winter Soldier where that guy mentioned Stephen Strange was a target for project Insight because he would have been a threat to Hydra.
I wondered about that. So will the Doctor Strange movie take place before the events of Winter Soldier? Because otherwise Strange would just be a surgeon at that point. Why would he be a threat?

Project Insight was about people's potential, right? Unrealized potential is still there, he didn't have a reason to realize it until being a surgeon was taken away from him.
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Post by: Darth Geek on August 12, 2016, 09:31:33 AM
I remember in The Winter Soldier where that guy mentioned Stephen Strange was a target for project Insight because he would have been a threat to Hydra.
I wondered about that. So will the Doctor Strange movie take place before the events of Winter Soldier? Because otherwise Strange would just be a surgeon at that point. Why would he be a threat?

Project Insight was about people's potential, right? Unrealized potential is still there, he didn't have a reason to realize it until being a surgeon was taken away from him.
The algorithm predicts magic abilities too?
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Post by: LucasM on August 12, 2016, 11:44:15 AM
I remember in The Winter Soldier where that guy mentioned Stephen Strange was a target for project Insight because he would have been a threat to Hydra.
I wondered about that. So will the Doctor Strange movie take place before the events of Winter Soldier? Because otherwise Strange would just be a surgeon at that point. Why would he be a threat?
Project Insight was about people's potential, right? Unrealized potential is still there, he didn't have a reason to realize it until being a surgeon was taken away from him.
The algorithm predicts magic abilities too?

No, just potential to do massive good or progressive action and therefore be a threat to 'evil'.  How that happens (science, political action, social responsibility, magic, etc.) would be irrelevant I would think.
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Post by: Darth Geek on August 12, 2016, 12:50:57 PM
I remember in The Winter Soldier where that guy mentioned Stephen Strange was a target for project Insight because he would have been a threat to Hydra.
I wondered about that. So will the Doctor Strange movie take place before the events of Winter Soldier? Because otherwise Strange would just be a surgeon at that point. Why would he be a threat?
Project Insight was about people's potential, right? Unrealized potential is still there, he didn't have a reason to realize it until being a surgeon was taken away from him.
The algorithm predicts magic abilities too?

No, just potential to do massive good or progressive action and therefore be a threat to 'evil'.  How that happens (science, political action, social responsibility, magic, etc.) would be irrelevant I would think.
So it's based more on intelligence and access to resources then.
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Post by: LucasM on August 12, 2016, 06:13:34 PM
I remember in The Winter Soldier where that guy mentioned Stephen Strange was a target for project Insight because he would have been a threat to Hydra.
I wondered about that. So will the Doctor Strange movie take place before the events of Winter Soldier? Because otherwise Strange would just be a surgeon at that point. Why would he be a threat?
Project Insight was about people's potential, right? Unrealized potential is still there, he didn't have a reason to realize it until being a surgeon was taken away from him.
The algorithm predicts magic abilities too?
No, just potential to do massive good or progressive action and therefore be a threat to 'evil'.  How that happens (science, political action, social responsibility, magic, etc.) would be irrelevant I would think.
So it's based more on intelligence and access to resources then.

Seems about right... plus overall motivation (passive people don't participate in resistance), and likelihood under pressure of being a positive social activist rather than a potential further Hydra agent, since all those mental/emotional/financial/social resources can be used either way.
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Post by: Darth Geek on August 26, 2016, 06:29:09 PM
http://www.superherohype.com/news/380769-doctor-strange-guardians-of-the-galaxy#/slide/1
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Post by: Russoguru on August 27, 2016, 02:15:01 PM
It would be pretty trippy to see the Guardians and Dr Strange cross paths. But at this point it would actually kinda make sense if you ask me.
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Post by: LucasM on August 28, 2016, 04:55:22 PM
Looks like a great line-up.  I'll be getting each on Blu, probably on release day (since I can rarely make it to theaters).

They had better introduce Adam Warlock before Infinity War.

Wouldn't he be in Captain Marvel?

I'm not sure he and the Ms. Danvers Captain Marvel have even met in the comics, so I can't see why that would be the case (though I hope something is arranged with some films).  I mean, he started on Earth in Fantastic Four #66 and had many years of evolving before Starlin introduced Thanos and the infinity stones, so he could easily come in anywhere.
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Post by: LucasM on August 28, 2016, 04:55:34 PM
In case anyone wants to dress up to go to future Marvel films (or DC ones, for that matter)...

(http://fashionablygeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/superhero-business-suits.jpg) (http://www.fun.com/suits/fun-suits.html)
picture is link

They are amazingly cheap: $250 for most, $350 for the 'Dark Knight' Joker one (since it has a vest and long outer jacket).  There are many more than the three shown here, including an 'under cover' Avengers one, a Cap one, and more DC.

EDIT:  The details are pretty cool.  For instance, here's the back of the Iron Man suit.
(http://images.fun.com/products/40805/2-1-76383/iron-man-suit-alter-ego.jpg)
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Post by: Russoguru on August 28, 2016, 08:44:12 PM
Really hard to keep a secret identity when wearing those.  :P
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Post by: The Lurker on August 28, 2016, 08:46:52 PM
"cheap"
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Post by: LucasM on August 28, 2016, 09:01:19 PM
"cheap"

No question they are not quality daily use suits (sad, as it would be fun to imagine some executive wearing a different one to sequential board meetings).  But for short-term, special occasion, or cosplay use, they are pretty cool.  For that, I think they are reasonably priced (compared to some official 'costumes' I've seen).
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Post by: Darth Geek on August 29, 2016, 05:52:29 AM
We all know what they will really be used for: Wedding attire when basement dwelling nerds marry their Realdoll.
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Post by: LucasM on September 06, 2016, 08:28:54 PM
(https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14199543_1473561002660467_6457256547110843401_n.jpg?oh=1912f59e08edad5e3c67eaa304ac4e1d&oe=583A7ACB)

First view of Doctor Strange movie poster.  [This may be one I frame for my home theater room!]
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Post by: Russoguru on September 07, 2016, 09:07:11 PM
Now THAT is a damn nice movie poster.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: LucasM on September 26, 2016, 06:19:49 PM
I was pissed recently to realize that the 'poster' I shared a page ago (http://forum.rifftrax.com/index.php?topic=29736.msg958635#msg958635) on who would be in Infinity War was NOT released by Marvel themselves, but was a fan-created item and not credited as such.  [I've gone back and put a disclaimer on the post, for anyone arriving late to this thread.]

Here, apparently, are the only confirmed characters for Infinity War thus far.  Obviously a MUCH smaller list:
(https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14469504_1494399833909917_3769549224150382526_n.jpg?oh=523d1f53909070e1b9b649bfb1306dc7&oe=586EA17B)

But the Russos have basically said they aren't ruling anyone out, and are considering everyone, including the Netflix heroes (http://dailysuperheroes.com/infinity-war-the-russos-are-taking-the-defenders-into-account/27431/).  So that first listing may, ultimately be accurate, as I thought there'd been some confirmation that they said there would be some large number (over 60?) characters in it, so they need to fill that up somehow.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Russoguru on September 27, 2016, 04:24:45 PM
I really want to see Jessica Jones in the infinity war, and kind of maybe have an arc where her character believes in herself and realizes that she is a hero to the people and finds real joy in helping others and likewise in her life.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: LucasM on September 27, 2016, 05:07:40 PM
I remember in The Winter Soldier where that guy mentioned Stephen Strange was a target for project Insight because he would have been a threat to Hydra.
I wondered about that. So will the Doctor Strange movie take place before the events of Winter Soldier? Because otherwise Strange would just be a surgeon at that point. Why would he be a threat?
Project Insight was about people's potential, right? Unrealized potential is still there, he didn't have a reason to realize it until being a surgeon was taken away from him.
The algorithm predicts magic abilities too?
No, just potential to do massive good or progressive action and therefore be a threat to 'evil'.  How that happens (science, political action, social responsibility, magic, etc.) would be irrelevant I would think.
So it's based more on intelligence and access to resources then.
Seems about right... plus overall motivation (passive people don't participate in resistance), and likelihood under pressure of being a positive social activist rather than a potential further Hydra agent, since all those mental/emotional/financial/social resources can be used either way.

Well, it turns out someone finally asked the person who would know - Kevin Feige - about this very thing!

Quote
Details Behind Doctor Strange's Captain America: Winter Soldier Easter Egg Revealed (http://comicbook.com/2016/09/27/details-behind-doctor-stranges-captain-america-winter-soldier-ea/)

"He is very well-known as a surgeon," Feige said during a recent visit to the set of Doctor Strange. "He has got various awards and plaques you're going to see over there; he attends various galas, might be driving at one point in this movie. He has name recognition and a talent and certain Hydra computers identified him as somebody that could cause trouble for their agendas."

So the answer is, Strange wasn't an immediate threat to Hydra in any meaningful way, but as a brilliant and famous person whose agenda didn't mesh with theirs, he stood a high probability of being a problem for them if they successfully took over government. Think of it like a politician targeting Bruce Springsteen or Ted Nugent because they might use their concerts as a platform to spread a message the politician in question didn't like.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Edward J Grug III on September 27, 2016, 05:08:52 PM
I really want to see Jessica Jones in the infinity war, and kind of maybe have an arc where her character believes in herself and realizes that she is a hero to the people and finds real joy in helping others and likewise in her life.

That would be a good outcome for a real person and a terrible outcome for an interesting character and show.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Russoguru on September 27, 2016, 06:47:19 PM
That would be a good outcome for a real person and a terrible outcome for an interesting character and show.
Well I see where you're coming from but I think that's the outcome she deserves, or at least something she's working towards.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Edward J Grug III on September 27, 2016, 07:11:40 PM
That would be a good outcome for a real person and a terrible outcome for an interesting character and show.
Well I see where you're coming from but I think that's the outcome she deserves, or at least something she's working towards.

When they are ready to wind up the series, sure, but not now. She has a pretty unique view point compared to all of the other characters in the MCU, and that's part of what makes her so compelling.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Russoguru on September 28, 2016, 04:35:06 PM
When they are ready to wind up the series, sure, but not now. She has a pretty unique view point compared to all of the other characters in the MCU, and that's part of what makes her so compelling.
She seems pretty cynical to me. I would love to see Jessica Jones and Luke Cage crossover with Spider-man at some point. That could be amazing.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: LucasM on October 19, 2016, 02:48:34 PM
This is a collage of all 15 of the teaser posters from the films thus far.  Figured it fit better here than in the Marvel Shared Filmed Universe discussion thread (http://forum.rifftrax.com/index.php?topic=32583.msg961925#msg961925).

(https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/14715000_1520210721328828_6454527772327532394_o.jpg)
Please note: the actual pic is quite large, so may be worth saving to your hard drive and viewing at your leisure.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Johnny Unusual on October 19, 2016, 07:04:59 PM
So was your complaint about the Marvel movies the generic music themes?  Also, do you love prog rock?  Then I have some great news!

https://www.youtube.com/v/Q4uoNAFfvKg
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: LucasM on October 19, 2016, 08:47:55 PM
Yeah, JU, that is some good stuff there.  It's got the nice touch of what I refer to as 'Westernized world music' (which is way up there in my music preferences) mixed in.  [As opposed to pure world music, which generally isn't palatable to most Westerner's ears, either for its 100% authentic instrumentation or for its differing musical composition.]

But I do agree that Marvel films have overall been less than stellar in their music.  If people think otherwise: can anyone immediately bring to mind any theme from any of the Marvel films so far: say a 'Captain America theme', or an 'Iron Man theme'?  As easily as - say - Indiana Jones' theme?  Star Wars' theme?  Even this Doctor Strange one is a bit too meandering for that, despite my liking it.

Don't get me wrong: a strong theme such as Indiana Jones or Star Wars would not remotely fit the character of Doctor Strange.  So this music winding around as it does is quite appropriate to the character.  [The fact that it has Indian/Tibetan influences is an extra plus for me.]
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Johnny Unusual on October 19, 2016, 08:51:37 PM
Yeah, JU, that is some good stuff there.  It's got the nice touch of what I refer to as 'Westernized world music' (which is way up there in my music preferences) mixed in.  [As opposed to pure world music, which generally isn't palatable to most Westerner's ears, either for its 100% authentic instrumentation or for its differing musical composition.]

But I do agree that Marvel films have overall been less than stellar in their music.  If people think otherwise: can anyone immediately bring to mind any theme from any of the Marvel films so far: say a 'Captain America theme', or an 'Iron Man theme'?  As easily as - say - Indiana Jones' theme?  Star Wars' theme?  Even this Doctor Strange one is a bit too meandering for that, despite my liking it.

Don't get me wrong: a strong theme such as Indiana Jones or Star Wars would not remotely fit the character of Doctor Strange.  So this music winding around as it does is quite appropriate to the character.  [The fact that it has Indian/Tibetan influences is an extra plus for me.]

I pretty much agree.  I think if the same music was done with a conventional orchestra, it may just sound like the other Marvel themes.  But at least allowing the character to determine how that music sounds is a step in the right direction (I pray for a Legion of Monsters movie with a synth/Goblin-style soundtrack).
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Compound on October 30, 2016, 01:40:40 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cv7HkDsWgAQFGyl.jpg)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: LucasM on October 30, 2016, 11:10:31 AM
Variety article (title is link to the full thing):

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‘Doctor Strange’ Debuts to Magical $86 Million Internationally (http://variety.com/2016/film/box-office/marvel-doctor-strange-box-office-1201904483/)

The latest Marvel adventure doesn’t hit the U.S. until next week, but it’s already proving to be a hit with foreign crowds. Disney, Marvel’s parent company, said that “Doctor Strange’s” opening is nearly 50% ahead of “Ant-Man,” 37% ahead of “Guardians of the Galaxy,” and 23% ahead of “Captain America: The Winter Soldier.” That’s a strong result given that Doctor Strange isn’t as widely known as other comic-book characters.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Johnny Unusual on November 05, 2016, 06:25:01 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if the international success of Sherlock played a role in people going to see Doctor Strange.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Henry88 on November 05, 2016, 07:01:20 PM
$165,459,000    
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=marvel716.htm
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Edward J Grug III on November 14, 2016, 09:32:11 PM
Weird behind the scenes stuff:

http://collider.com/deadpool-guardians-of-the-galaxy-2-character-trade-marvel/
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Darth Geek on November 15, 2016, 05:02:28 AM
Weird behind the scenes stuff:

http://collider.com/deadpool-guardians-of-the-galaxy-2-character-trade-marvel/
Wait, so Kurt Russell is just doing a voice? And it's for Ego The Living Planet?!
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Edward J Grug III on November 15, 2016, 04:20:57 PM
Weird behind the scenes stuff:

http://collider.com/deadpool-guardians-of-the-galaxy-2-character-trade-marvel/
Wait, so Kurt Russell is just doing a voice? And it's for Ego The Living Planet?!

I don't know how spoilery you want to get... No, and yes.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Compound on November 21, 2016, 01:14:08 PM
A Christmas Present for American Netflix subs: Civil War hits Netflix on Christmas Day.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: LucasM on November 27, 2016, 07:26:08 PM
Quote
‘Doctor Strange’ Crosses $600M WW; Now MCU’s Biggest Single-Character Intro (http://deadline.com/2016/11/doctor-strange-crosses-600-million-global-box-office-1201860255/)

Disney/Marvel’s Doctor Strange passed into the $600M+ dimension this weekend with a total $616M worldwide through Sunday. This was the 5th offshore frame for the Sorcerer Supreme and added $9.8M at the international box office ($410.9M cume to date), plus $13.4M for the domestic 3-day ($205.1M cume to date). That thrusts the Benedict Cumberbatch-starrer into the Top 10 of 2016 domestically, overseas and globally. The film has also now become the biggest single-character introduction in the Marvel Cinematic Universe.

In further milestones, the Scott Derrickson-directed pic is the 9th MCU title to cross the $600M mark, and Disney’s 5th 2016 movie to do so. Japan, meanwhile, is still to come with a January 27 release.

Earlier this month, Disney reached $6B in global box office, a first for the studio and aided by the spellbinding Stephen Strange.

Compared to his stable mates, Doctor Strange has now surpassed the worldwide lifetime cumes of The Incredible Hulk ($263M), Captain America: The First Avenger ($371M), Thor ($449M), Ant-Man ($520M) and Iron Man ($585M).

Domestically, the surgeon has levitated over the lifetimes of The Incredible Hulk ($135M), Cap 1 ($177M), Ant-Man ($180M) and Thor ($181M). It’s about to also pass Thor: The Dark World ($206.4M).

Internationally, the film is bigger than The Incredible Hulk ($129M), Cap 1 ($194M), Iron Man ($266M), Thor ($268M), Iron Man 2 ($310M) and Ant-Man ($339M). Doctor Strange has also surpassed the lifetime cume of 2016’s X-Men: Apocalypse at all three levels ($155M/$388M/$544M).

He’s been particularly handsy in Asia with China as the No. 1 market at $109.6M, followed by Korea at $40.9M. The UK ($27.5M), Russia ($21.9M) and Brazil ($20.9M) round out the Top 5.

This session’s only new opening was Argentina with a $1M No. 1 start ahead of a national holiday tomorrow.

Topped other Marvel character intros lifetime grosses and it hasn't even been in theaters a month yet, plus it hasn't even been released in Japan yet. :)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: The Lurker on February 28, 2017, 09:30:00 PM
https://www.youtube.com/v/duGqrYw4usE
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Edward J Grug III on March 01, 2017, 05:09:07 PM
http://www.avclub.com/article/serinda-swan-joins-royal-family-marvels-inhumans-s-251337

Looking forward to seeing how they make Medusa not shit.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: goflyblind on March 01, 2017, 05:19:04 PM
http://www.avclub.com/article/serinda-swan-joins-royal-family-marvels-inhumans-s-251337

Looking forward to seeing how they make Medusa not shit.

early hair cgi test footage:
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Russoguru on March 04, 2017, 10:26:44 AM
Guardians volume 2 is going to be fantastic. The only thing that worries me is that there's so much going on in the movie that I am afraid it may be too overstuffed.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: The Lurker on March 08, 2017, 05:29:31 PM
First look at Jeff Goldblum in Thor Ragnarok...
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C6cB1U8WYAE-YDz.jpg)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: LucasM on March 16, 2017, 11:41:47 PM
Well, crap.

VENOM is now part of the release calendar web as Sony has slated the Spidey spinoff for October 5, 2018. (http://mcuexchange.com/alex-kurtzmans-venom-secures-october-5-2018-release-date/)

I find Venom intensely boring.  To have a solo Venom sucking up(off) a spot in the MCU schedule really is annoying.  [So one film out of the first 21 will not be perfect for me, awwww.... ;) ]
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Edward J Grug III on March 17, 2017, 12:48:58 AM
Well, crap.

VENOM is now part of the release calendar web as Sony has slated the Spidey spinoff for October 5, 2018. (http://mcuexchange.com/alex-kurtzmans-venom-secures-october-5-2018-release-date/)

I find Venom intensely boring.  To have a solo Venom sucking up(off) a spot in the MCU schedule really is annoying.  [So one film out of the first 21 will not be perfect for me, awwww.... ;) ]

Well recently Venom has been a member of the Guardians of the Galaxy in the comics, so maybe it won't go quite how you're used to? It'd be pretty smart of Sony to try to get something like this to happen, tying the characters they have the rights to into the MCU even more tightly.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Darth Geek on March 17, 2017, 06:04:37 AM
Well, crap.

VENOM is now part of the release calendar web as Sony has slated the Spidey spinoff for October 5, 2018. (http://mcuexchange.com/alex-kurtzmans-venom-secures-october-5-2018-release-date/)

I find Venom intensely boring.  To have a solo Venom sucking up(off) a spot in the MCU schedule really is annoying.  [So one film out of the first 21 will not be perfect for me, awwww.... ;) ]
I like Venom, but only as a villain. He's not interesting when they try to make him a hero (or at least an anti-hero). Making a solo Venom movie is just stupid. Do the symbiote Spider-Man suit properly for one movie and have Venom be the villain in the one after that.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Kete on March 17, 2017, 07:12:20 AM
Well, crap.

VENOM is now part of the release calendar web as Sony has slated the Spidey spinoff for October 5, 2018. (http://mcuexchange.com/alex-kurtzmans-venom-secures-october-5-2018-release-date/)

I find Venom intensely boring.  To have a solo Venom sucking up(off) a spot in the MCU schedule really is annoying.  [So one film out of the first 21 will not be perfect for me, awwww.... ;) ]
I like Venom, but only as a villain. He's not interesting when they try to make him a hero (or at least an anti-hero). Making a solo Venom movie is just stupid. Do the symbiote Spider-Man suit properly for one movie and have Venom be the villain in the one after that.

And a movie in between that is only Emo Peter Parker.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: k1 on March 17, 2017, 07:43:34 AM
For all the critics saying Iron Fist is awful I wasn't sure what to expect. Two episodes in and so far I'm enjoying it.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Johnny Unusual on April 10, 2017, 10:05:51 AM
https://www.youtube.com/v/v7MGUNV8MxU

YES!
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Pak-Man on April 10, 2017, 10:16:36 AM
I like everything I just saw in that trailer.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Darth Geek on April 10, 2017, 10:46:13 AM
I like everything I just saw in that trailer.
Me too, except for his helmet. I get that it's not Thor's regular one, and he was only given it when in the fighting arena. But it looks like the kind of crappy design that we were afraid his helmet was going to be in the first movie.
Oh, and also the look of Jeff Goldbum's character is really silly.
Minor nitpicks (and for all I know they may joke about them in the movie). Everything else, especially Hulk, looked good.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: goflyblind on April 10, 2017, 04:07:41 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/mR946XC.gif)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: BathTub on April 10, 2017, 04:41:53 PM
I love all the colour.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: The Lurker on April 21, 2017, 05:45:55 PM
So David Hasselhoff's contribution to Guardians 2 was released on youtube and it's heavily influenced by Meco's Star Wars stuff, according to James Gunn...
https://www.youtube.com/v/8guxsR0k_AU
There may be a little spoiler around 2:06-2:10
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: The Lurker on May 19, 2017, 02:20:44 PM
In regards to the music for the Spider-Man movie...
https://twitter.com/m_giacchino/status/865664095084662785?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fs9e.github.io%2Fiframe%2Ftwitter.min.html%23865664095084662785 (https://twitter.com/m_giacchino/status/865664095084662785?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fs9e.github.io%2Fiframe%2Ftwitter.min.html%23865664095084662785)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Russoguru on May 19, 2017, 09:19:30 PM
I certainly hope Thor Ragnarok lives up to my expectations.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: LucasM on July 23, 2017, 06:04:17 PM
(https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/20229190_322137824880503_7556825856186301038_n.jpg?oh=63c8cf23131af0a0ac3b2fa42a3d21dd&oe=59F9D98D)

Certainly going with the extreme color in the poster, too, it seems.

The poster makes it look far more like Planet Hulk than anything to do with Thor, since - with the short hair - you can barely tell it is Thor in the center.
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Post by: Edward J Grug III on July 23, 2017, 06:06:26 PM
I love that Thor Poster.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Pak-Man on July 23, 2017, 06:34:59 PM
It's beautiful! It's not grey and teal!
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: LucasM on July 23, 2017, 07:21:16 PM
Indeed!  I am particularly glad it is not the more typical poster style that has plagued so many films (at least in the Sci-Fi/Superhero type), with the 'large main character pose' combined with 'high school graduation arty head-shots of supporting cast sprayed beside or around it'.  This poster (I'm guessing like the film, spoiler-phobe I am, I won't watch the trailer so haven't even seen that much) is something rather new.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: LucasM on November 19, 2017, 07:17:21 PM
[John Cleese announcer]"And now, for something completely different..."[/John Cleese announcer]

Something I've not seen anything written about, but which I've wondered about, is what is up with Marvel's crunching their film releases into basically the first half of the year for the next two years?  There's no film releases scheduled past mid-July for '18 or '19 ('20 is different).  Does anyone know anything about the why for this?  [The only thoughts I've had were related to possibly Star Wars or Pixar releases or something taking the 'last half' of each year for Disney.]

Black Panther . . . . February 16, 2018
Avengers: Infinity War . . . . May 4, 2018
Ant-Man and the Wasp . . . . July 6, 2018

Captain Marvel . . . . March 8, 2019
Untitled Avengers . . . . May 3, 2019
as-yet untitled Marvel movie . . . . July 12, 2019
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Edward J Grug III on November 19, 2017, 07:29:32 PM
Maybe they find that films released close together like that bolster the other films around them? Like they all advertise and create more buzz for each other?
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: LucasM on November 19, 2017, 07:44:16 PM
Maybe they find that films released close together like that bolster the other films around them? Like they all advertise and create more buzz for each other?

That's possible, or they are testing that as a theory (since the 2020 films-on are so far scheduled more spread out).

Since both of those years contain an Infinity War entry (OK an 'Infinity War' story and a 'NOT Infinity War but still starring Thanos and the Avengers' story :P ), it is possible they wanted the content 'bunched up' to tell the story more clearly.  That would be particularly true if there's significant crossing over between the plots of the films on either side of each of the two Avengers films (guaranteed fallout in the ones after each).  If that is the case, it is nice of them to not torture us by having to wait 4-5 months between the two threesomes.  I never would have thought of that if not for your comments.  Thanks!

Of course, I may be full of it.  If anyone knows for sure, it'd be interesting.  But I just noticed that again, and realized that I'd read NOTHING official on why it was happening.  Odd that they haven't been asked about it (at least not in anything I've read).
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Pak-Man on November 19, 2017, 10:53:53 PM
I thought Infinity War was being split into two movies.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Edward J Grug III on November 19, 2017, 11:21:39 PM
I thought Infinity War was being split into two movies.

It was, but they walked that back. Now it's untitled Avengers 4 film. I assume the title has a spoiler for something that happened between now and then.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Russoguru on November 20, 2017, 06:46:20 PM
Dammit I want that Infinity War trailer! I've heard it's supposed to be posted online December 4th, but gahhh, what's stopping them from posting it sooner?!
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: goflyblind on November 25, 2017, 04:48:52 PM
https://www.youtube.com/v/8atgsWFfDOg

minor spoilers, i guess.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Russoguru on November 28, 2017, 12:50:18 PM
Okay, the Infinity war trailer is supposed arrive tomorrow.  ;D
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Darth Geek on November 28, 2017, 05:42:48 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DPp1hSYXUAAGkA4.jpg)
So...apparently Thor is turning into Blackadder.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: goflyblind on November 28, 2017, 06:11:03 PM
So...apparently Thor is turning into Blackadder.

well, loki does often have a cunning plan.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: k1 on November 28, 2017, 08:05:12 PM
Wait, is that for Infinity War? After seeing Thor 3 I immediately notice a few things...

Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Kete on November 29, 2017, 07:08:03 AM
Wait, is that for Infinity War? After seeing Thor 3 I immediately notice a few things...

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

I dont think either of them are in the actual trailer
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Darth Geek on November 29, 2017, 11:22:40 AM
Wait, is that for Infinity War? After seeing Thor 3 I immediately notice a few things...

Spoiler (click to show/hide)
I wondered about that. My guess is it was released right around the time Ragnarok came out and they didn't want to spoil it.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: BathTub on November 29, 2017, 12:24:23 PM
Yes it was to stop spoilers, Thor is wearing his eyepatch in the Infinity War trailer.

Which I'm amazed wasn't already posted.

https://www.youtube.com/v/6ZfuNTqbHE8
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Russoguru on November 29, 2017, 12:58:07 PM
I just watched it roughly... 10 times or so. DAMN! I can't get enough of this! I love this trailer, and this is a movie that's gonna really kick some serious ass. Greatest part though? No doubt "Who the hell are you guys?"
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: LucasM on November 29, 2017, 02:13:08 PM
Yes it was to stop spoilers, Thor is wearing his eyepatch in the Infinity War trailer.

Which I'm amazed wasn't already posted.

But now YOU have the honor of spoiling that event in Thor: Ragnarok for me and others. [sarcasm]Thanks heaps.[\sarcasm]
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Pastor of Muppets on November 29, 2017, 02:32:50 PM
Looks even better than the 3rd Avengers movie.  It's coming out this summer, right?
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Pak-Man on November 29, 2017, 02:39:03 PM
Yes it was to stop spoilers, Thor is wearing his eyepatch in the Infinity War trailer.

Which I'm amazed wasn't already posted.

But now YOU have the honor of spoiling that event in Thor: Ragnarok for me and others. [sarcasm]Thanks heaps.[\sarcasm]

Ah, but you don't know how he gets it!

Spoiler (click to show/hide)
^^SPOILER ALERT: This spoiler is not a real spoiler^^
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Johnny Unusual on November 29, 2017, 03:42:26 PM
I always believed that if I lost an eye, I'd have a large assortment of eye patches made, each with a different image.  You know, broken heart, lightning bolt, smiley face, the usual stuff.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: LucasM on November 29, 2017, 04:43:22 PM
I always believed that if I lost an eye, I'd have a large assortment of eye patches made, each with a different image.  You know, broken heart, lightning bolt, smiley face, the usual stuff.

...smiling poop emoji for when you feel like shit... yeah, I get it. :)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Pastor of Muppets on November 29, 2017, 04:58:13 PM
I always believed that if I lost an eye, I'd have a large assortment of eye patches made, each with a different image.  You know, broken heart, lightning bolt, smiley face, the usual stuff.

https://youtube.com/v/qPKGXgS3Fl8
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: LucasM on December 02, 2017, 03:00:59 AM
The other option is to have glass eyes made with all the various things on them: a zebra-striped one, a cat one, one with a thin vertical-football-shaped pupil, an opalescent one, one with a 3D star-speckled nebula suspended inside a transparent sphere (with battery-powered mini-LED illumination), etc.  You could also have the assorted emojis on those, as well.  I mean, patches can only go so far (though the above video does push boundaries on that).
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Edward J Grug III on February 18, 2018, 04:33:42 PM
I wonder when Phase 4 plans are going to be announced? We're nearing the end of Phase 3, with just four more films and only 15 more months left int he tank.

Other than that, we know there will be a Spider-Man 2 (currently not part of Phase 3? Will Marvel let Sony launch their next wave, or will it sit outside of the phases?) and GotG3.

I assume they are waiting till after the Avengers 3 to announce things due to potential spoilers, but surely they won't wait till after Avengers 4, which closes out this phase?
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: LucasM on March 01, 2018, 03:09:36 PM
Avengers: Infinity War release date moved up a week!  Release day now April 27!

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'Avengers: Infinity War' Release Date Moves Up One Week to April (https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/avengers-infinity-war-release-date-moves-april-1089951)

Marvel Studios and Disney' biggest superhero mashup yet is hitting North American theaters earlier than expected.

Avengers: Infinity War will now unfurl April 27, a week before its earlier launch date of May 4. In other words, the summer box office will kick off earlier than expected (the first weekend in May is historically considered the official start of the summer season).

The move means that the comic book blockbuster, directed by Anthony and Joe Russo, will open day-and-date around the globe, reducing the possibility of spoilers marring the experience for North American audiences. Marvel president Kevin Feige has said the film will have big ramifications for the Marvel Cinematic Universe, so much so that the title for 2019's Avengers 4 has not yet been revealed, as the name itself would be a spoiler.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Pak-Man on March 01, 2018, 04:30:46 PM
Awww. But I always like having the new Marvel movie on Free Comic Book Day. I mean I could wait a week, but I don't wanna!
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Edward J Grug III on March 01, 2018, 04:53:09 PM
I always like having it a week before the US, as it's far less likely something will be spoiled for me before I get to see it.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Russoguru on March 16, 2018, 09:31:14 PM
There was a new trailer today for Infinity War, and to accompany that... the tickets went on sale this morning. Even though many of the best seats were already sold out I managed to find one at a decent spot in the auditorium. I would highly recommend plunking down the extra money for a showing with assigned seats so you don't have to arrive 2 hours in advance to get in line for the best seat(s).
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Pak-Man on March 16, 2018, 11:51:38 PM
Thanks for the reminder. I won't be able to catch a show on premiere night (The cost of parenthood), but I got good seats for a Saturday Matinee.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Darth Geek on March 20, 2018, 07:04:56 PM
Um...I just noticed something. According to IMDB, Cate Blanchett is not in Avengers: Infinity War. Does that mean they're not doing the comics storyline of Thanos being in love with Death? Which was thought to be changed to Hela. That's the main thing that makes Thanos interesting, that his motivations are more than just desire for power or to rule the universe.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: BathTub on March 20, 2018, 07:29:30 PM
There's been no indication of that, no.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: LucasM on March 20, 2018, 09:34:33 PM
I certainly hope that that ends up his motivation for Avengers 4, then.  Possibly Avengers [3]: Infinity War is the 'bad-ass Thanos' and Avengers 4 will be 'Thanos in love'. ;D
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Pak-Man on March 20, 2018, 10:33:06 PM
I want that to be the subtitle so bad now.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Russoguru on March 20, 2018, 10:38:01 PM
Ha ha! But do you really Pak? Do you REALLY want that?
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Darth Geek on March 22, 2018, 10:03:24 AM
I just realized something. If Hela is now a Disney Princess, does that make Thanos essentially Gaston?
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Darth Geek on March 25, 2018, 01:12:08 PM
I'm watching Thor Ragnarok again and something I noticed was odd. Hela points out when she is going through Odin's treasure chamber that his Infinity Gauntlet is a fake. Why would ODIN of all characters have a fake?! Especially since it's in where few people go, mostly just him. Is he just a prop replica collector?
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: goflyblind on March 25, 2018, 01:35:20 PM
odin had the real one, but someone pulled the ol' switcheroo to get thanos the real gauntlet?
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Darth Geek on March 25, 2018, 03:36:29 PM
odin had the real one, but someone pulled the ol' switcheroo to get thanos the real gauntlet?
I thought Thanos made the Gauntlet himself.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: k1 on March 25, 2018, 04:04:45 PM
I thought I heard that was how they fixed a goof from when it was previously shown as the wrong hand.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Darth Geek on March 25, 2018, 04:32:21 PM
I thought I heard that was how they fixed a goof from when it was previously shown as the wrong hand.
I saw an article that said they originally didn't have the movies planned out far enough to know they were going to use it for sure. So it was just a background easter egg in the first Thor movie.
I'm not sure how else they'd solve the issue. It just seems odd that they would simply say it's a fake. Why would Odin, who has a lot of other really powerful artifacts, have a fake for just him to look at?
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: LucasM on March 25, 2018, 04:55:26 PM
I thought I heard that was how they fixed a goof from when it was previously shown as the wrong hand.
I saw an article that said they originally didn't have the movies planned out far enough to know they were going to use it for sure. So it was just a background easter egg in the first Thor movie.
I'm not sure how else they'd solve the issue. It just seems odd that they would simply say it's a fake. Why would Odin, who has a lot of other really powerful artifacts, have a fake for just him to look at?

He didn't know it was a fake?
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Edward J Grug III on March 25, 2018, 04:59:03 PM
He was senile. He was very old.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: The Lurker on April 04, 2018, 08:47:03 AM
http://screencrush.com/avengers-infinity-war-james-gunn-guardians-dialogue/ (http://screencrush.com/avengers-infinity-war-james-gunn-guardians-dialogue/)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Russoguru on April 23, 2018, 04:56:14 PM
Question... if I want to avoid spoilers for Avengers Infinity War, should I stay off the forum until after I've seen the movie? I've already enacted a Facebook blackout for myself until late Thursday night, and now I'm wondering if I should stay off this forum too. The only place I'm gonna go where I don't expect much in the way of Spoilers is Rotten Tomatoes or Metacritic, mostly because I won't scroll down to look at any of the comments. I just want to see the kind of score the movie gets, and that's it. I don't think I'm gonna go to any search engines like Yahoo either, lest I come upon a spoiler. Believe me, to do this it's gonna suck because I want to be surprised... but it'll be worth it.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Edward J Grug III on April 23, 2018, 05:26:42 PM
As long as you stay out of the Infinity War thread, you should be safe. People are usually good about that stuff here.

I won't be seeing it till Saturday morning myself.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Pak-Man on April 23, 2018, 07:46:34 PM
Gotta wait till Saturday night, myself. The thing I miss most about pre-Parenthood is midnight releases.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Russoguru on April 23, 2018, 07:52:54 PM
Gotta wait till Saturday night, myself. The thing I miss most about pre-Parenthood is midnight releases.
Really sorry Pak, honestly I really hate to see a fellow fan missing out... but... parental responsibilities have to come first like you said.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: wihogfan on April 23, 2018, 08:06:42 PM
People really want to see Infinity War...wow...the previews make it look terrible...but I thought the other Avenger movies were all terrible too. Kind of want to see Dead Pool 2 though (despite generally not liking Ryan Reynolds, Dead Pool 1 worked for me,).
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Edward J Grug III on April 23, 2018, 08:08:19 PM
Personally I find a midnight viewing always decreases my enjoyment of the film.

What I am going to miss is getting the movie a week or two earlier than the US and being able to see it on the weekend without worrying about spoilers :P
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Russoguru on April 23, 2018, 09:03:56 PM
Personally I find a midnight viewing always decreases my enjoyment of the film.

What I am going to miss is getting the movie a week or two earlier than the US and being able to see it on the weekend without worrying about spoilers :P
Well Edward that's exactly why I am NOT going to a midnight showing, but a 7 pm showing this Thursday, May 26th. I'll try to avoid spoilers when I break down my reaction to the film, but I'm not going to pretend it's going to be easy.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Edward J Grug III on April 23, 2018, 09:06:54 PM
Just keep it to the Infinity War thread and you can post it in as much detail as you want.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Russoguru on April 23, 2018, 09:09:23 PM
You got it man.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Darth Geek on April 29, 2018, 07:17:05 PM
When the credits started rolling with one name at a time I figured it would last for a whole year so Avengers 4 would be the after credits scene.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Darth Geek on May 01, 2018, 09:11:06 AM
http://comicbook.com/marvel/2018/04/30/avengers-infinity-war-box-office-justice-league/

HAHAHAHA!  ;D
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Darth Geek on June 18, 2018, 05:51:35 AM
I haven't seen TAG yet, but I hear it's pretty good. It would be funny if in that at the end it turned out he was playing Hawkeye. So that's the reason his friends can't catch him at tag. And it turns out that's the reason he wasn't in Infinity War.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: The Lurker on August 25, 2018, 03:00:55 PM
So Guardians 3 has been postponed indefinitely...
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: LucasM on August 25, 2018, 05:18:05 PM
So Guardians 3 has been postponed indefinitely...

Yeah, that sucks.  Particularly since it was likely going to introduce my 3rd favorite comic character (after Spider-Man and Doctor Strange): Adam Warlock.  Which means if any Warlock films were going to be part of the cosmic next phase of the MCU (The Church/Magus series would've been awesome!), that will be on indefinite hold as well.  Unless they decide to bring in the Sovereign and 'Adam' via a different film - but that seems unlikely if they still intend to use Gunn's Vol. 3 script as the basis for the next GotG film.

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'Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3' Put On Indefinite Hold by Disney (https://mcuexchange.com/guardians-of-the-galaxy-vol-3-hold/)

It had to happen. Marvel and Disney have put Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3 on indefinite hold following their refusal to bring back director James Gunn into the fold, according to The Hollywood Reporter, as Disney and Marvel continue their extensive search for Gunn’s replacement.
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“The timeline has been pushed out,” says a source. Disney never set a release date for Guardians 3.

The film was originally slated to begin filming this either coming January or February, with pre-production set to begin in the fall. THR says that a chunk of the crew was already gearing up for pre-production but have since been dismissed and told to look for new work in the meantime. Last we heard, Gunn’s final meeting with Marvel was very civil and that some sources were very keen on Disney using the director’s script. This hiatus could potentially mean otherwise if Disney and Marvel have decided to start on a clean slate.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Pastor of Muppets on September 01, 2018, 05:33:42 PM
AMC Theaters is doing a big multi-day festival of the Marvel movies.  I've got an AMC theater just a mile away.  I have AMC Stubs A-List so I get 3 free movies a week for $20 a month.  I have all the Marvel movies on DVD (except Infinity War), but seeing them on the big IMAX screen is pretty cool.

There are 20 movies and I only have 3 free movie passes.  Also, two of the four daily showings happen while I'm at work.  So I just narrowed it down to the three Avengers movies.  This will be a real treat for Infinity War.  It was shot entirely in IMAX but I never got around to seeing it in IMAX.  I had a ticket for one on release day back in April, but I got impatient and bought a pre-release ticket in a normal theater.  Monday evening I'll get my chance to make up for that and see it in IMAX.  Maybe then I'll finally be able to figure out what IMAX means.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Russoguru on September 01, 2018, 05:59:32 PM
I'd LOVE to go see some of the MCU films, but not sure if I can afford tickets to see ALL the movies I want to see.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: stansimpson on September 01, 2018, 08:33:06 PM
AMC Theaters is doing a big multi-day festival of the Marvel movies.  I've got an AMC theater just a mile away.  I have AMC Stubs A-List so I get 3 free movies a week for $20 a month.  I have all the Marvel movies on DVD (except Infinity War), but seeing them on the big IMAX screen is pretty cool.

There are 20 movies and I only have 3 free movie passes.  Also, two of the four daily showings happen while I'm at work.  So I just narrowed it down to the three Avengers movies.  This will be a real treat for Infinity War.  It was shot entirely in IMAX but I never got around to seeing it in IMAX.  I had a ticket for one on release day back in April, but I got impatient and bought a pre-release ticket in a normal theater.  Monday evening I'll get my chance to make up for that and see it in IMAX.  Maybe then I'll finally be able to figure out what IMAX means.
I love MCU movies. I love IMAX. This was a dream come true for a fanboy like me. Especially since all but the most recent few have been released in IMAX before. But I'm having to stay home and take care of the wife and newborn.

I was *reeeeeally* hoping to catch at least *one*. I had just enough time to see my favorite, Captain America: Winter Soldier, today (which has never been shown in IMAX). Got in the car, left, called the wife for something, and then heard the baby crying. I turned around, came home, and did my best to make peace with missing out on the whole thing as a trade-in for being a good father/husband. My paternity leave ends very soon, so something about it didn't feel right going when I should be at home before I have to go back to work.

My love for the MCU goes deep (I've seen every one in theaters, most on opening weekend). I know I'm going to have to make sacrifices like this down the road. This is just the first major one. The decision was tougher than I expected.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Pastor of Muppets on September 02, 2018, 10:40:12 AM
It sucks that your obligations as a family man kept you away from the theater, but why couldn't your wife handle the baby solo for a couple hours while you went off to one movie?

The wait for Avengers 4 feels like it's taking an eternity.  It's only been 4 months but it feels like it's been over a year.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: stansimpson on September 02, 2018, 11:33:15 AM
It sucks that your obligations as a family man kept you away from the theater, but why couldn't your wife handle the baby solo for a couple hours while you went off to one movie?
Not to get too personal but breastfeeding has been difficult and practically a non-stop job with him always being hungry. So asking for a couple hours (3+ with driving time) is kind of asking a lot right now. Plus, the wife implied she needed my help and was conflicted about my going. That, to me, sounded like I didn't have her blessing which really stuck in my craw and wouldn't have allowed me to enjoy the movie anyway.

Now I'm just hoping for another IMAX run when Avengers 4 comes out.

The wait for Avengers 4 feels like it's taking an eternity.  It's only been 4 months but it feels like it's been over a year.
When IW ended, I thought we had to wait *two* years. It's made it easier to wait for summer '19... but only slightly. ;)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Edward J Grug III on September 02, 2018, 04:59:25 PM
It sucks that your obligations as a family man kept you away from the theater, but why couldn't your wife handle the baby solo for a couple hours while you went off to one movie?
Not to get too personal but breastfeeding has been difficult and practically a non-stop job with him always being hungry. So asking for a couple hours (3+ with driving time) is kind of asking a lot right now. Plus, the wife implied she needed my help and was conflicted about my going. That, to me, sounded like I didn't have her blessing which really stuck in my craw and wouldn't have allowed me to enjoy the movie anyway.

Now I'm just hoping for another IMAX run when Avengers 4 comes out.

The wait for Avengers 4 feels like it's taking an eternity.  It's only been 4 months but it feels like it's been over a year.
When IW ended, I thought we had to wait *two* years. It's made it easier to wait for summer '19... but only slightly. ;)

Congrats on your new child!

We had the same issue with ours, and we eventually had to mostly switch to formula, which wasn't our plan, but what we needed to do. And I get it, those first few months are so hard - I wouldn't have been able to go out to a movie and enjoy myself either, I don't think.

Actually, we were so housebound, that's when we really got into the Criterion Collection after ordering a couple on a whim.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: stansimpson on September 02, 2018, 10:02:18 PM
It sucks that your obligations as a family man kept you away from the theater, but why couldn't your wife handle the baby solo for a couple hours while you went off to one movie?
Not to get too personal but breastfeeding has been difficult and practically a non-stop job with him always being hungry. So asking for a couple hours (3+ with driving time) is kind of asking a lot right now. Plus, the wife implied she needed my help and was conflicted about my going. That, to me, sounded like I didn't have her blessing which really stuck in my craw and wouldn't have allowed me to enjoy the movie anyway.

Now I'm just hoping for another IMAX run when Avengers 4 comes out.

The wait for Avengers 4 feels like it's taking an eternity.  It's only been 4 months but it feels like it's been over a year.
When IW ended, I thought we had to wait *two* years. It's made it easier to wait for summer '19... but only slightly. ;)

Congrats on your new child!

We had the same issue with ours, and we eventually had to mostly switch to formula, which wasn't our plan, but what we needed to do. And I get it, those first few months are so hard - I wouldn't have been able to go out to a movie and enjoy myself either, I don't think.

Actually, we were so housebound, that's when we really got into the Criterion Collection after ordering a couple on a whim.
Thanks!

We tried formula, but it was really doing a number on his digestive system. We tried "triple feeding" which has been draining, to say the least. Now that he's gaining weight, we bottle feed as a last resort (which is about 1-2x a day).

Criterion? Awesome! We've found our comfort in shows we grew up with (Cheers, Frasier, Seinfeld, Star Trek: TNG). When we're exhausted, we've found these shows to be real comfort food.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Edward J Grug III on September 02, 2018, 10:11:53 PM
It sucks that your obligations as a family man kept you away from the theater, but why couldn't your wife handle the baby solo for a couple hours while you went off to one movie?
Not to get too personal but breastfeeding has been difficult and practically a non-stop job with him always being hungry. So asking for a couple hours (3+ with driving time) is kind of asking a lot right now. Plus, the wife implied she needed my help and was conflicted about my going. That, to me, sounded like I didn't have her blessing which really stuck in my craw and wouldn't have allowed me to enjoy the movie anyway.

Now I'm just hoping for another IMAX run when Avengers 4 comes out.

The wait for Avengers 4 feels like it's taking an eternity.  It's only been 4 months but it feels like it's been over a year.
When IW ended, I thought we had to wait *two* years. It's made it easier to wait for summer '19... but only slightly. ;)

Congrats on your new child!

We had the same issue with ours, and we eventually had to mostly switch to formula, which wasn't our plan, but what we needed to do. And I get it, those first few months are so hard - I wouldn't have been able to go out to a movie and enjoy myself either, I don't think.

Actually, we were so housebound, that's when we really got into the Criterion Collection after ordering a couple on a whim.
Thanks!

We tried formula, but it was really doing a number on his digestive system. We tried "triple feeding" which has been draining, to say the least. Now that he's gaining weight, we bottle feed as a last resort (which is about 1-2x a day).

Criterion? Awesome! We've found our comfort in shows we grew up with (Cheers, Frasier, Seinfeld, Star Trek: TNG). When we're exhausted, we've found these shows to be real comfort food.

We thought our was having digestive issues with formula, but it turned out he had silent reflux - Once we got that diagnosed and he was on medicine, it went away almost instantly. Was a lifesaver.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: goflyblind on September 05, 2018, 03:04:11 PM
entertainment weekly has a bunch of captain marvel images https://ew.com/movies/2018/09/05/captain-marvel-ew-cover-brie-larson/.

someone very kindly posted them all at imgur: https://imgur.com/gallery/f1Dm14v

Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Pastor of Muppets on September 05, 2018, 03:32:38 PM
It sucks that your obligations as a family man kept you away from the theater, but why couldn't your wife handle the baby solo for a couple hours while you went off to one movie?
Not to get too personal but breastfeeding has been difficult and practically a non-stop job with him always being hungry. So asking for a couple hours (3+ with driving time) is kind of asking a lot right now. Plus, the wife implied she needed my help and was conflicted about my going. That, to me, sounded like I didn't have her blessing which really stuck in my craw and wouldn't have allowed me to enjoy the movie anyway.

Now I'm just hoping for another IMAX run when Avengers 4 comes out.

Set aside some money for a babysitter now!  Don't be like that obnoxious woman who sat next to me during the first screening of Infinity War I went to and brought her baby with her into the theater.

I saw it again on Monday, in full IMAX.  I still can't figure out what IMAX is though.  I thought seeing a 100% IMAX movie in an IMAX theater would clear this up.  Infinity War is like the perfect movie.  Such a masterful culmination of 10 years of universe building.  That fight on Titan was beyond words.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Russoguru on September 05, 2018, 04:47:51 PM
I'm still wondering when Marvel is finally going to release that trailer for Captain Marvel.  ???
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: LucasM on September 05, 2018, 05:47:01 PM
I saw it again on Monday, in full IMAX.  I still can't figure out what IMAX is though.  I thought seeing a 100% IMAX movie in an IMAX theater would clear this up.

Response only on IMAX, not MCU, so spoilered.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Pastor of Muppets on September 06, 2018, 02:30:31 AM
Thanks Lucas.  I'd read all about IMAX in an attempt to understand it, but it all seems very.... scholastic to me.  I've been trying to make some sort of connection between scholastic theory and real life application and have been unsuccessful.  I'm sure real film buffs could appreciate it, but I don't have a particularly discerning eye.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Pastor of Muppets on September 06, 2018, 02:33:25 AM
entertainment weekly has a bunch of captain marvel images https://ew.com/movies/2018/09/05/captain-marvel-ew-cover-brie-larson/.

someone very kindly posted them all at imgur: https://imgur.com/gallery/f1Dm14v

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

I'm really looking forward to it, especially since Captain Marvel is a new superhero I haven't seen before.

Brie Larsen is one of those actresses that befuddles me sometimes, as a man.  On a superficial level, I can never make up my mind on whether I find her hot or not.  It shouldn't matter, and in a way it really doesn't, but I am always perturbed by situations where I can't come to a definitive conclusion.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: stansimpson on September 06, 2018, 07:34:55 AM
It sucks that your obligations as a family man kept you away from the theater, but why couldn't your wife handle the baby solo for a couple hours while you went off to one movie?
Not to get too personal but breastfeeding has been difficult and practically a non-stop job with him always being hungry. So asking for a couple hours (3+ with driving time) is kind of asking a lot right now. Plus, the wife implied she needed my help and was conflicted about my going. That, to me, sounded like I didn't have her blessing which really stuck in my craw and wouldn't have allowed me to enjoy the movie anyway.

Now I'm just hoping for another IMAX run when Avengers 4 comes out.

Set aside some money for a babysitter now!  Don't be like that obnoxious woman who sat next to me during the first screening of Infinity War I went to and brought her baby with her into the theater.

No worries about that from us. I'm greatly perturbed that I can't go to any movie anymore without people constantly on their phones (much less deal with a crying baby).

The biggest downside to technology moving so fast and cheap is that the general public can't say "no" to exponentially increasing stimulation. I better calm down now before this becomes a RRAAAARRGGGHHH post.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: The Lurker on January 15, 2019, 07:52:06 AM
https://www.youtube.com/v/DYYtuKyMtY8
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Johnny Unusual on January 15, 2019, 10:50:03 AM
Yeah, Mysterio has his dome.  That's seriously all I need.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: goflyblind on January 15, 2019, 11:50:16 AM
s'up, dickwad?
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Russoguru on January 15, 2019, 12:58:33 PM
I can't believe they're releasing the trailer when the movie is almost a year and a half away. Gotta admit though, I really like the way this movie looks. Not exactly sure where Mysterio gets his powers from, but at least they got his costume down pretty well. I think it's gonna be pretty good.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Kete on January 15, 2019, 01:19:04 PM
I can't believe they're releasing the trailer when the movie is almost a year and a half away. Gotta admit though, I really like the way this movie looks. Not exactly sure where Mysterio gets his powers from, but at least they got his costume down pretty well. I think it's gonna be pretty good.

Also surprised they released the trailer before End Game came out.  I know nobody expects Spider Man to stay dead, but they should at least try to maintain the mystery.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Edward J Grug III on January 15, 2019, 03:27:05 PM
I can't believe they're releasing the trailer when the movie is almost a year and a half away. Gotta admit though, I really like the way this movie looks. Not exactly sure where Mysterio gets his powers from, but at least they got his costume down pretty well. I think it's gonna be pretty good.

Also surprised they released the trailer before End Game came out.  I know nobody expects Spider Man to stay dead, but they should at least try to maintain the mystery.

Yeah, that surprises me too. The only thing I can think of is they want to benefit form the Into the Spider-Verse praise?
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Darth Geek on January 15, 2019, 04:51:26 PM
I thought the point of Mysterio was that he was a special effects wizard. That doesn't look like he could have done them with practical on site effects. And why the hell is he seen in the trailer with his helmet off? I thought that was to keep his identity a secret.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Russoguru on January 15, 2019, 05:25:02 PM
I thought the point of Mysterio was that he was a special effects wizard. That doesn't look like he could have done them with practical on site effects. And why the hell is he seen in the trailer with his helmet off? I thought that was to keep his identity a secret.
Just be patient Darth. I'm sure there's a good reason. But if there isn't, somebody is going into the ass-kicking machine.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Darth Geek on January 15, 2019, 05:40:26 PM
I'm also wondering if Mysterio has a similar plan to Syndrome. Where he will be in control of the threats so he can be seen defeating them to gain popularity.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: NRRork on January 15, 2019, 06:23:23 PM
I can't believe they're releasing the trailer when the movie is almost a year and a half away. Gotta admit though, I really like the way this movie looks. Not exactly sure where Mysterio gets his powers from, but at least they got his costume down pretty well. I think it's gonna be pretty good.

It's coming out THIS summer, so it's like six months away. To be fair, *I* was surprised about that, too. I thought it was coming out NEXT summer as well. They don't give these much time to breathe before they churn out the next one, man.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Russoguru on January 15, 2019, 07:22:19 PM
It's coming out THIS summer, so it's like six months away. To be fair, *I* was surprised about that, too. I thought it was coming out NEXT summer as well. They don't give these much time to breathe before they churn out the next one, man.
Well as long as they keep the quality of the films high, that's all that really matters to me.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: NRRork on January 15, 2019, 11:28:27 PM
Oh, I have no doubt it'll be great. They have earned my trust with these MCU movies, even the weakest ones I've found entertaining enough to be worth seeing at least once.

I just realized earlier today there's a lot of movies coming out this year that I want to see. I kinda wish they weren't all sequels, but they're only the BEST sequels! There's a much BIGGER list of sequels and adaptations coming out this year where I was like "NOPE!"
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Russoguru on January 17, 2019, 03:21:22 PM
What I REALLY want out of Endgame(at least in part anyway) is that they totally shred the Sokovia Accords. I'm don't like the idea of Captain America(and company) are still labeled as fugitives. I just want the world to show Zemo that his plan has failed.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: The Lurker on February 03, 2019, 02:09:55 PM
https://www.youtube.com/v/Lf2JIPI8pQU
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: The Lurker on February 03, 2019, 03:51:57 PM
https://www.youtube.com/v/-iFq6IcAxBc
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Darth Geek on February 03, 2019, 04:04:15 PM
It's just the same information we already knew.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Russoguru on February 03, 2019, 04:27:29 PM
Pretty much. That last shot in the hanger I think I can see Steve, Thor, Nat, Rocket, Scott, Rhodey and Bruce. No telling how far into the story Clint and Captain Marvel will appear. Of course I could say the same for the Hulk.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Kete on February 03, 2019, 05:56:39 PM
This one looks like a lot more time has passed.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Russoguru on February 03, 2019, 06:18:14 PM
Exactly one year has passed, or so I've heard.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: The Lurker on February 07, 2019, 11:22:33 AM
https://screencrush.com/guardians-of-the-galaxy-3-james-gunn-script/ (https://screencrush.com/guardians-of-the-galaxy-3-james-gunn-script/)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Pak-Man on March 07, 2019, 07:52:45 AM
It occurs to me that with the release of Captain Marvel, all of the major, pretty-recognizable (non-mutant/Fantastic Four) Marvel Heroes have seen some representation in the MCU. (Except poor She-Hulk, who's probably tied up with the same legal issues that plague The Hulk.)  That means Marvel is going to have to start digging deeper for their new heroes. That excites me.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Kete on March 07, 2019, 11:05:39 AM
Squirrel Girl is the hero we need.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Russoguru on March 07, 2019, 11:15:06 AM
Maybe so but the character would need to be introduced with the same kind of love and care that was given to Groot and Rocket Raccoon in GOTG. For now though I'm going to remain dubious until she's actually doing her thing as part of the Avengers. Oh, and I am going to see Captain Marvel tonight. I am really psyched.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Edward J Grug III on March 10, 2019, 01:15:45 AM
It occurs to me that with the release of Captain Marvel, all of the major, pretty-recognizable (non-mutant/Fantastic Four) Marvel Heroes have seen some representation in the MCU. (Except poor She-Hulk, who's probably tied up with the same legal issues that plague The Hulk.)  That means Marvel is going to have to start digging deeper for their new heroes. That excites me.

One of the ladies we saw the film with, who doesn't read comics much at all, was a bit disappointed when she realised Ms Marvel wasn't the same person as Captain Marvel.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Pak-Man on March 10, 2019, 03:21:50 AM
Ooh. Totally forgot Ms. Marvel. Yeah, she needs one soon. I'd love to see stretchy powers done right on the big screen.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Russoguru on March 10, 2019, 01:15:15 PM
No offense Pak, but I'm not sure stretchy powers can be done in the movies or on TV without making me cringe, facepalm or laugh. Fantastic four and its sequel sure couldn't and of course Fant4stic was somehow worse.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Edward J Grug III on March 10, 2019, 04:20:32 PM
No offense Pak, but I'm not sure stretchy powers can be done in the movies or on TV without making me cringe, facepalm or laugh. Fantastic four and its sequel sure couldn't and of course Fant4stic was somehow worse.

But those movies were wrong in every way.

MCU has sold far worse ideas.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Kete on March 10, 2019, 05:15:38 PM
What about Incredibles?
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Russoguru on March 10, 2019, 08:47:13 PM
What about Incredibles?
See here's the thing, some things work in animation that you can't do in a live action movie.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Johnny Unusual on March 14, 2019, 04:28:57 PM
https://www.youtube.com/v/BZ4atvktaPY
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: The Lurker on March 15, 2019, 11:19:53 AM
He's back!
https://screencrush.com/james-gunn-rehired-to-direct-guardians-of-the-galaxy-vol-3/ (https://screencrush.com/james-gunn-rehired-to-direct-guardians-of-the-galaxy-vol-3/)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: The Lurker on March 15, 2019, 01:26:24 PM
From Gunn himself...
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D1uNTy6UwAAUmH6.jpg)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: LucasM on March 19, 2019, 12:08:37 PM
Quote
The Disney-Fox Acquisition To Officially Take Effect Tomorrow (https://mcuexchange.com/fox-disney-acquisition-mcu-effect/)

Quicker than expected - yet longer for FF and X-men to return than it should have been.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Darth Geek on March 20, 2019, 08:48:20 AM
How well X-Men Dark Phoenix goes over will determine if Disney keeps the X-Men universe going separately from the MCU for a while. They have said they want to keep the Deadpool movies separate, which is definitely the way to go. I wouldn't be surprised if they hold off on a Fantastic Four movie for a little while.
Personally I loved my friend's idea of them adapting the Triumph and Torment series with Dr. Strange and Dr. Doom fighting through Hell for Doom's mother. Because it would use an existing character, the storyline is tailor made to introduce and establish Doom's character, and it would be significantly different than anything else we've seen in the MCU.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Pak-Man on March 20, 2019, 09:14:29 AM
If anyone can do a Fantastic Four movie right, it's Marvel Studios. Conversely, if anyone can besmirch Marvel's excellent record, it's The Fantastic Four. There's something about them that seems really hard for Hollywood to get a grip on. Even the comics has a historically hard time getting a grip on them. Is Reed Richards a brilliant scientist with a heart of gold, or a blind futurist who values science over ethics? Is Sue Storm a warm-hearted mother figure, or the embodiment of what every man in the 40s was afraid was going to happen when they started letting women into the workplace? Is it possible to make Johnny Storm into a LIKABLE jerk?

The Thing seems to be the easiest to get right. Even Corman kind of nailed The Thing.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: goflyblind on March 20, 2019, 09:39:36 AM
Is it possible to make Johnny Storm into a LIKABLE jerk?

(https://i.imgur.com/AsnxqDb.gif)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Kete on March 20, 2019, 10:25:53 AM
Did you guys listen to Wolverine: The Long Night?  I would love for them to make something like that into a movie.  And with Marvel's penchant for making genre movies that happen to be about superheroes, it could be really cool.  A mystery film from the perspective of the detectives would be neat.

I like the idea of them keeping the mutants separate for a while.  Separate from the rest of the MCU, and separate from each other (in more individual stories).  Maybe they could throw in a mutant or two into another MCU film, but not the whole team.

I'd be down with Wolverine vs Hulk or a Spider-Man Team-Up, but I think we're a long way from something like House of M.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: goflyblind on March 20, 2019, 10:30:08 AM
I'd be down with Wolverine vs Hulk or a Spider-Man Team-Up, but I think we're a long way from something like House of M.

if they wanna finish some of the mcu contracts, they could start with something like ultimatum.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Pak-Man on March 20, 2019, 11:00:55 AM
The trick to introducing the X-Men is mutants would have always been there, there are lots of them, yet nobody has encountered a mutant in the MCU.

I suppose the solution would be to introduce mutants as a new thing that's starting to emerge and then they can deal with the fear and discrimination as it would have happened today, and I think I just talked myself into that concept.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Darth Geek on March 20, 2019, 11:32:16 AM
Maybe they could throw in a mutant or two into another MCU film, but not the whole team.

They did, with Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Kete on March 20, 2019, 12:02:58 PM
Maybe they could throw in a mutant or two into another MCU film, but not the whole team.

They did, with Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch.

Yeah.  I meant that they should do it in a good way :)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Darth Geek on March 20, 2019, 12:58:20 PM
Maybe they could throw in a mutant or two into another MCU film, but not the whole team.

They did, with Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch.

Yeah.  I meant that they should do it in a good way :)
Agreed. I don't like Scarlet Witch, her powers are just whatever the plot needs for her to have at the time. And bringing in Quicksilver just to kill him was a waste.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Kete on March 20, 2019, 01:59:10 PM
Maybe they could throw in a mutant or two into another MCU film, but not the whole team.

They did, with Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch.

Yeah.  I meant that they should do it in a good way :)
Agreed. I don't like Scarlet Witch, her powers are just whatever the plot needs for her to have at the time. And bringing in Quicksilver just to kill him was a waste.

They also couldn't compete with the Days of Future Past Quicksilver.  Maybe that is a character that they should find a way to retain from the Fox X-Men. Not sure how they could do it.  Look Wanda!  Your brother's alive, but he's better!
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Russoguru on March 20, 2019, 02:46:30 PM
And bringing in Quicksilver just to kill him was a waste.
You didn't see that coming?
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Edward J Grug III on March 20, 2019, 09:25:48 PM
The trick to introducing the X-Men is mutants would have always been there, there are lots of them, yet nobody has encountered a mutant in the MCU.

I suppose the solution would be to introduce mutants as a new thing that's starting to emerge and then they can deal with the fear and discrimination as it would have happened today, and I think I just talked myself into that concept.

Or they say the last ten years was the result of House of M.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: The Lurker on March 26, 2019, 01:21:50 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D2mjJZnU8AEaRt8.jpg)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Russoguru on March 26, 2019, 02:01:15 PM
Awww I was hoping Goose survived the snap.  :'(
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: goflyblind on March 26, 2019, 11:33:28 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/3WM6lFj.jpg)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: stansimpson on March 27, 2019, 07:00:44 AM
I love Snyder-bashing as much as the next guy, but BvS was pretty successful financially. It's still #13 of the biggest opening weekends of all time (#8 when it came out) and that's in spite of being released in March. Critically though, yeah, it deserves the criticism.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Russoguru on March 27, 2019, 11:14:20 AM
I was pretty much convinced after one viewing of Batman V Superman that I did not want to ever see that movie ever again. I don't know exactly what it takes to make something like the Guardians of the Galaxy work as perfectly as they did, but somehow they never got too silly or too bleak, they stayed on the narrow path where the audience can accept them as real characters. That's an incredible feat and not many film makers can pull that off.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: ScottotD on March 28, 2019, 12:34:27 AM
The trick to introducing the X-Men is mutants would have always been there, there are lots of them, yet nobody has encountered a mutant in the MCU.

I suppose the solution would be to introduce mutants as a new thing that's starting to emerge and then they can deal with the fear and discrimination as it would have happened today, and I think I just talked myself into that concept.

I mean, according to general 'culture' gay people didn't exist until about 1985.


You could just have that they were in hiding and more and more Mutants are being born with every generation, attribute miracles or strange phenomenons like ghost sightings, UFOs, spontaneous combustion, crop circles, big foot, etc, etc to them
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Russoguru on March 28, 2019, 04:23:31 AM
Heh, that reminds me of the convo Iceman's parents had with him in X-men 2. The way I see it, there's three ways of acting towards somebody who is a "mutant". 1) Deny there's a problem and avoid that person indefinitely, even if they are family, 2) Accept them for who they are, or 3) Awesome! You can be an Avenger now!
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Kete on March 28, 2019, 07:49:24 AM
Heh, that reminds me of the convo Iceman's parents had with him in X-men 2. The way I see it, there's three ways of acting towards somebody who is a "mutant". 1) Deny there's a problem and avoid that person indefinitely, even if they are family, 2) Accept them for who they are, or 3) Awesome! You can be an Avenger now!

The dad in X-men 3 attempted conversion therapy.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Darth Geek on March 28, 2019, 09:42:56 AM
Heh, that reminds me of the convo Iceman's parents had with him in X-men 2. The way I see it, there's three ways of acting towards somebody who is a "mutant". 1) Deny there's a problem and avoid that person indefinitely, even if they are family, 2) Accept them for who they are, or 3) Awesome! You can be an Avenger now!

The dad in X-men 3 attempted conversion therapy.
And the beginning scene is the conservative cultural pressure causing him to self harm.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Russoguru on March 29, 2019, 11:41:21 AM
I was freaking out a little this morning because I went onto Fandango and there were showtimes for Endgame but it looked like they were all sold out but a part of me was like uhhhh.... wut? Anyways I took a closer look and went to Friday, Saturday and Sunday's showtimes and that's when it hit me. As much as I'd love to see Avengers Endgame sell out tickets that fast and that far in advance I realized there's no way that every single showing could be sold out by now. Sure enough, when I clicked on one of the showtimes it said "Tickets coming soon, be sure to check back later!". So while I will feverishly continue to obsessively and compulsively check on the status of ticket sales over the next few days, this is an obvious sign that they are almost ready to start selling tickets. Get your credit cards ready, ladies and gentlemen.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: stansimpson on March 29, 2019, 01:13:43 PM
Literally was just checking my calendar to see when Endgame tickets go on sale to make sure I hadn't missed it yet. Your post made my heart skip a little.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Darth Geek on March 29, 2019, 01:56:51 PM
I can't believe we're less than a month away.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Russoguru on March 29, 2019, 02:56:03 PM
Literally was just checking my calendar to see when Endgame tickets go on sale to make sure I hadn't missed it yet. Your post made my heart skip a little.
Just to be sure I called a local theater manager and he said the date of the exact time for selling tickets is confidential so he couldn't tell me the exact date. All he could tell me is that it wouldn't be the weekend and it would be sometime this coming week. I'm guessing that means Tuesday. Might mean earlier though so keep an eye on Fandango in the meantime.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: goflyblind on March 29, 2019, 11:18:29 PM
one of the benefits of being a foreigner (besides being cold as ice and hot blooded) is that the english-language showings aren't even close to full. i went to captain marvel on the monday of opening weekend and there was maybe ten other people in the theatre.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: LucasM on March 30, 2019, 03:46:44 AM
LIKE'd the above post for this  ;D :

one of the benefits of being a foreigner (besides being cold as ice and hot blooded)...
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: ScottotD on March 31, 2019, 10:39:40 PM
One of the advantages of being in the Southern Hemisphere is we get it at least a day before the US  ;D
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Russoguru on April 02, 2019, 05:38:20 AM
Just got my ticket to the Imax showing of Avengers Endgame, 6:15 pm, April 25th.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: stansimpson on April 02, 2019, 07:00:42 AM
You got through the website? I'm in a queue on Fandango with a "More than an hour" wait. AMC's website has been crashing for the past 90mins. Frustrating. See everyone in the RRRAAARRRGGHH thread.

(https://i.imgur.com/5F5dUIG.jpg)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Pak-Man on April 02, 2019, 07:42:50 AM
I'm buying mine right now right from the theater's website. Fandango isn't the only way to get tickets. (EDIT: I'm going with a smaller local theater that serves food, so the site wasn't swamped.)

EDIT 2: And I'm all set for a Saturday afternoon showing. I miss the days of first-showings. The insane die-hard fans that populate those showings always make for great audiences, but parenthood makes it very hard to arrange for a sitter. I'll just enjoy a nice nerdy afternoon date with my wife and all the casual fans.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: stansimpson on April 02, 2019, 11:30:10 AM
Congrats, Pak! My wife went to the theater in person to get ours when they opened. Thursday night IMAX showing. She had to take the baby too, so I like thinking people thought they were there to go see Dumbo only to see her get the tickets and walk away. Haha.

I *sooo* hear you about getting a sitter. The whole thing's a lot more difficult now. We've gone to the movies 3x since he was born (2 of those were on our birthdays). This is one where we both agree it's worth the hassle.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Russoguru on April 02, 2019, 06:17:23 PM
I'm sorry you had so much trouble Stan.  :( For some reason I got through in less than a minute or two.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on April 12, 2019, 09:05:47 AM
The Franklin Institute in Philly is doing a Marvel super heroes exhibit, looks really cool, might have to go see it sometime:

https://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2019/04/12/marvel-universe-of-super-heroes-opens-saturday-at-the-franklin-institute/
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Russoguru on April 15, 2019, 05:32:45 PM
I just got my actual tickets in hand today from the movie theater. Hard to believe it's only 10 days away now.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: k1 on April 19, 2019, 01:21:43 PM
Got my tickets for 7pm on the 25th!
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Russoguru on April 19, 2019, 05:08:32 PM
I'm guessing in another say... maybe 40 or 50 years from now(When I will be LONG gone from this mortal coil) and hopefully Rifftrax keeps having an enduring amount of popularity maybe we'll have a top 50 MCU films LoC... MAYBE. That being said, if it's okay I'd like to share how so far I personally rank the MCU films(22 next week). Feel free to agree or disagree. This list will most likely change by next week.

Great
1.   Avengers: Infinity War
2.   Guardians of the Galaxy
3.   Captain America: The Winter Soldier
4.   Thor: Ragnarok
5.   Captain America: Civil War
6.   Avengers
Good
7.   Guardians of the Galaxy volume 2
8.   Captain America: The First Avenger
9.   Captain Marvel
10.   Iron Man
11.   Ant-man
12.   Black Panther
13.   Avengers: Age of Ultron
14.   Doctor Strange
15.   Thor
16.   Ant-man and the Wasp
17.   Spider-man: homecoming
Mediocre
18.   Thor: The Dark World
Just plain bad
19.   The Incredible Hulk
20.   Iron man 2
21.   Iron Man 3
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Darth Geek on April 19, 2019, 07:03:37 PM
The only ones I found to be just plain bad was Ant-Man and Ant-Man And The Wasp. I LOVE The Incredible Hulk. And I'm clearly in the minority on these.
I only found Iron Man 3 to be half bad, but at least it's nice to see someone else who doesn't praise it to the high heavens for some goddamn reason.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Russoguru on April 19, 2019, 07:20:54 PM
When Iron Man 3 came out I was kind of back and forth on my feelings about it for a while until I realized... okay this really isn't very good. The whole plot "twist" with the Mandarin pissed me off the most I think.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Darth Geek on April 19, 2019, 08:13:04 PM
When Iron Man 3 came out I was kind of back and forth on my feelings about it for a while until I realized... okay this really isn't very good. The whole plot "twist" with the Mandarin pissed me off the most I think.
The Mandarin twist didn't bother me that much because it happens so late in the movie. I hated the PTSD crap at the beginning because I just didn't buy it. I also didn't buy for a second that Tony would blow up the suits, or that Pepper would even want him too. And even aside from that the movie just has way too much going on. It's overcomplicated with doing the Mandarin terrorist AND the main villain with superpowers, plus Tony without his suit in the middle, and the kid, and his relationship with Pepper Potts, and her getting powers.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: stansimpson on April 19, 2019, 10:22:28 PM
I'm guessing in another say... maybe 40 or 50 years from now(When I will be LONG gone from this mortal coil) and hopefully Rifftrax keeps having an enduring amount of popularity maybe we'll have a top 50 MCU films LoC... MAYBE. That being said, if it's okay I'd like to share how so far I personally rank the MCU films(22 next week). Feel free to agree or disagree. This list will most likely change by next week.


If you include MCU tv shows, then, very soon, that will add another 14 properties. Break those tv shows down by season, you won't even have to wait for the Disney+ shows to come out.

Agents of SHIELD (2013-)
Agent Carter (2015–2016)
Inhumans (2017)
Daredevil (2015–2018)
Jessica Jones (2015–)
Luke Cage (2016–2018)
Iron Fist (2017–2018)
The Defenders (2017)
The Punisher (2017–2019)Runaways (2017–)
Cloak & Dagger (2018–)The Falcon and the Winter Soldier
WandaVision
Loki
Hawkeye
What If

P.S. Thank you for not putting Thor: Dark World in your "bad" category. I feel it only memed its way to the bottom recently because people want fresh meat and are bored of the same Incredible Hulk and Iron Man 2 complaints.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Pak-Man on April 19, 2019, 10:53:23 PM
I'll back up Mr. Geek on The Incredible Hulk. I think people hated on THAT one because they hadn't quite washed the taste of Ang Lee out of their mouths. It's a great Hulk story. It's got everything a good Hulk story needs. The struggle between Hulk and Bruce, the clash between Hulk and a military that has to resort to some sci-fi stuff to stand a chance, the clash between Hulk and a mammoth supervillain... I thought there was loads of potential in The Leader. They even managed to seed Captain America's super serum.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Kete on April 20, 2019, 05:56:19 AM
I don't think there are any bad MCU movies. I think they are all at least decent to good.  Iron Man 3 and Thor 2 had a lot of good laughs.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Russoguru on April 20, 2019, 02:04:07 PM
Iron Man 3 and Thor 2 had a lot of good laughs.
If there were I sure don't remember them. Generally speaking, if I have absolutely no desire to see a movie in theaters more than once I personally consider it not good.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Edward J Grug III on April 20, 2019, 05:23:58 PM
I don't think there are any bad MCU movies. I think they are all at least decent to good.  Iron Man 3 and Thor 2 had a lot of good laughs.

Completely agree.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Kete on April 20, 2019, 06:32:28 PM
Iron Man 3 and Thor 2 had a lot of good laughs.
If there were I sure don't remember them. Generally speaking, if I have absolutely no desire to see a movie in theaters more than once I personally consider it not good.

Yeah. Schindler's List sucked.  ;D
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Russoguru on April 20, 2019, 08:43:32 PM
Anyway the premiere of Endgame is Monday night so for those of you who really want to avoid spoilers you might want to stay off the likes of FB and Twitter until you see it.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: stansimpson on April 20, 2019, 09:03:22 PM
Anyway the premiere of Endgame is Monday night so for those of you who really want to avoid spoilers you might want to stay off the likes of FB and Twitter until you see it.

There were leaks from a screening about 4 days ago, so be careful out there (especially Twitter).
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Russoguru on April 23, 2019, 11:38:30 AM
I accidentally came across some spoilers this morning... or they might not be. It's hard to know for sure. I do know one thing, and please do not take this as me supporting the idea that spoilers don't ruin a movie. There have been many instances in the past where a secret about a movie has been blown ahead of time, and it didn't hurt the film at all. Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan is the prime example I can think of. My point is this: if it's a great movie, then in theory spoilers aren't going to hurt your experience of the film at all, minimal at most.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Pak-Man on April 23, 2019, 12:05:27 PM
Read an article somewhere a while back about a study that shows that spoilers actually seem to improve enjoyment of a movie, but I'm sure that varies from person to person and depends on the nature of the spoiler. There's definitely something robbed from the experience if you go into a mystery movie already knowing whodunit. And when I find out Vader is Luke's Father, I wanna hear it from Vader at exactly the same time Luke does.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Darth Geek on April 23, 2019, 12:34:09 PM
I don't want things spoiled for me, I haven't even seen any of the trailers since the first one.
I am wondering what else the Russo Brothers will do to subvert our expectations this time. They did such a good job of that in the first one. The unexpected characters dying, the ones you thought would die didn't, and Hulk being defeated right away, and Red Skull looking like Death in his introduction. I think they're definitely going to do something with Captain Marvel. Similar to Hulk, we think she's going to be their ace in the hole, so maybe have her lose near the beginning.
And even knowing the comics doesn't help much because the plotline (and even Thanos' motivation) are so different so far than the Infinity Gauntlet comic. There's only one thing I think they've left open that the comics did they could do as well, and would fit.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Pak-Man on April 23, 2019, 02:02:51 PM
There's only one thing I think they've left open that the comics did they could do as well, and would fit.

(https://cdn3.whatculture.com/images/2014/12/thanos-copter.jpg)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Russoguru on April 23, 2019, 06:06:49 PM
So... as of right now, 7:05pm on April 23rd, 2019, the Rotten Tomatoes score for Avengers: Endgame is...
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
I spoiler tagged this just in case Darth doesn't want to know the RT score.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Kete on April 23, 2019, 07:04:24 PM
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Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Edward J Grug III on April 23, 2019, 08:13:12 PM
Read an article somewhere a while back about a study that shows that spoilers actually seem to improve enjoyment of a movie, but I'm sure that varies from person to person and depends on the nature of the spoiler. There's definitely something robbed from the experience if you go into a mystery movie already knowing whodunit. And when I find out Vader is Luke's Father, I wanna hear it from Vader at exactly the same time Luke does.

*SOME* research does, but some shows the opposite:

https://www.livescience.com/53126-spoilers-can-ruin-movie-enjoyment.html?fbclid=IwAR0Pvd3uyMS8Fg541QR_D7ci2G5KBJU3qsyEFgW4wdodPp5EZCPio0m21sU

Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: LucasM on April 23, 2019, 09:18:31 PM
Read an article somewhere a while back about a study that shows that spoilers actually seem to improve enjoyment of a movie, but I'm sure that varies from person to person and depends on the nature of the spoiler. There's definitely something robbed from the experience if you go into a mystery movie already knowing whodunit. And when I find out Vader is Luke's Father, I wanna hear it from Vader at exactly the same time Luke does.

*SOME* research does, but some shows the opposite:

https://www.livescience.com/53126-spoilers-can-ruin-movie-enjoyment.html?fbclid=IwAR0Pvd3uyMS8Fg541QR_D7ci2G5KBJU3qsyEFgW4wdodPp5EZCPio0m21sU

And there are likely psychological reasons for both.  These are the most obvious ones that came to mind (partly coming to mind because of the clients I saw), but there are likely MANY other reasons that could contribute to either liking or avoiding spoilers.

For people who grew up in a family where there was ANY kind of threat (e.g. abuse of any kind, alcoholism, etc.) then 'not knowing what is coming' is - itself - anxiety provoking.  So knowing spoilers ahead of time would keep the anticipatory dread that goes with 'not knowing' at bay to a large degree.  With this, the person could enjoy what was 'around' the spoiler more easily.

Those who feel safe in their life, or feel that life is an 'adventure', or those who are not uncomfortable with ambiguity, likely find spoilers adversely affecting their enjoyment of fiction.  Because, as Pak said, "there's definitely something robbed from the experience if you go into a mystery movie already knowing whodunit".  And, in effect, for people who avoid spoilers, EVERY bit of fiction is a "whodunit" - and a "what'd'theydo" - and a "whatthefukhappenednext" - and a "whatreactionsdidotherpeopleinthestoryhavetowhateveritwas".  EVERY aspect of a story can, knowing it in advance, potentially ruin it for SOMEone.

So I don't watch trailers for any film I know I plan to see.  I avoid reading anything that could potentially contain un-announced spoilers.  Shit still gets through (like the fucking tee of the Infinity Gauntlet with the caption "I survived the snap" that came out within a week or two of the film's release, when my brain limitations make it so that I can't go to a theater to see a film), but I've enjoyed a LOT more films a LOT more since trying to avoid every spoiler I possibly could.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Pak-Man on April 24, 2019, 07:21:02 AM
Yeah, when The Force Awakens came out, my wife was having MAJOR back issues and could not sit through a movie in a theater seat, so out of solidarity, I didn't see it either until her back was better, about a month after it came out. Finding out about Han Solo's fate was unavoidable. The moment still resonated, and I still enjoyed the movie, but I can't help but wonder how the experience would have hit me if it caught me off-guard.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Pak-Man on April 24, 2019, 09:37:27 AM
And on that note, here's the Avengers: Endgame spoiler thread:

http://forum.rifftrax.com/index.php?topic=34689.0

If you have spoilers to post, keep them there. If you need to post them elsewhere, use spoiler tags.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Russoguru on April 24, 2019, 01:00:38 PM
Well I won't be going there until late Thursday night. In the meantime I'm just glad the biggest spoiler of all has not been revealed to me, and it's this:
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Pak-Man on April 24, 2019, 01:04:47 PM
2 words. And one of them is "Squirrel." (Not a spoiler. I don't know that this would happen. I don't even THINK that this would happen. I just really HOPE that it happens.)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Russoguru on April 24, 2019, 01:10:31 PM
I also think that is not going to happen, Squirrel Girl probably won't be a part of the MCU until phase 9, where Cassie Lang becomes the new Wasp.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Darth Geek on April 24, 2019, 01:29:48 PM
In the meantime I'm just glad the biggest spoiler of all has not been revealed to me, and it's this:
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
That term is thrown around so much that it doesn't have the same meaning.

And we don't know what happened to the Infinity gauntlet itself, right? I don't think Thanos was wearing it in the end scene on the farm.

Personally I think the one thing they will keep from the comics is the next wearer of the Gauntlet.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Russoguru on April 24, 2019, 03:38:15 PM
I had a theory about that... at the end of Endgame I think that
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Pak-Man on April 25, 2019, 09:01:01 PM
Go to Google and search for Thanos. A glove will show up. Click it.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Russoguru on April 25, 2019, 09:43:44 PM
Just got home from seeing it a little while ago. I was blown away. Loved it.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: stansimpson on April 26, 2019, 07:21:03 AM
Saw it last night. Epic. Absolutely epic. It is Return of the King to Infinity War's Fellowship of the Ring.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: goflyblind on April 27, 2019, 05:16:07 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/8iGfRLb.jpg)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: The Lurker on May 01, 2019, 05:25:28 AM
https://screencrush.com/guardians-of-the-galaxy-vol-3-is-coming-sooner-than-expected/ (https://screencrush.com/guardians-of-the-galaxy-vol-3-is-coming-sooner-than-expected/)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Russoguru on May 01, 2019, 01:11:14 PM
At this point I think they should just drop the pretense and instead of continuing with the volume _ tradition they should just call it
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. I'm certainly not the first one to say this, I realize that.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Pak-Man on May 01, 2019, 01:24:07 PM
You are not.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: stansimpson on May 01, 2019, 02:50:32 PM
You are not.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Farland1L on May 08, 2019, 12:49:27 AM
Closing out Phase Three of the Marvel Cinematic Universe will be Spider-Man 9 the studio hired Daniel Cretton to take the helm of the project prepaidgiftbalance
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: RVR II on May 08, 2019, 12:54:37 AM
Closing out Phase Three of the Marvel Cinematic Universe will be Spider-Man 9 the studio hired Daniel Cretton to take the helm of the project prepaidgiftbalance
Closing out this  :spammer:
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: goflyblind on May 08, 2019, 01:06:15 AM
wow. spider man 9?! phase three's gonna go on a lot longer than i thought it would, mr. spambot. thanks for the tip.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Pak-Man on May 08, 2019, 07:04:56 AM
purplemonkeydishwasher
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Kete on May 08, 2019, 10:16:17 AM
Technically, it IS the eighth Spider-Man movie. tankovalmailbox
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Darth Geek on May 08, 2019, 12:14:43 PM
The title of this thread should be updated now.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: The Lurker on May 16, 2019, 04:32:54 PM
https://screencrush.com/james-gunn-rocket-guardians-3/ (https://screencrush.com/james-gunn-rocket-guardians-3/)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Russoguru on May 19, 2019, 04:29:41 PM
I want to back up a bit to an earlier entry in the MCU, Thor: The Dark World. The movie was by my standards pretty mediocre. What truly bothers me though is that it was written by Christopher Markus and Stephen Mcfeely, the guys who also wrote Captain America The First Avenger, Captain America The Winter Soldier, Captain America Civil War, Avengers Infinity War and Avengers Endgame. This begs the question... WTH went wrong with Thor The Dark World?! I mean those guys are normally amazing writers but somehow The Dark World ended up being not good, not bad, just middle of the road.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Edward J Grug III on May 19, 2019, 05:18:28 PM
I want to back up a bit to an earlier entry in the MCU, Thor: The Dark World. The movie was by my standards pretty mediocre. What truly bothers me though is that it was written by Christopher Markus and Stephen Mcfeely, the guys who also wrote Captain America The First Avenger, Captain America The Winter Soldier, Captain America Civil War, Avengers Infinity War and Avengers Endgame. This begs the question... WTH went wrong with Thor The Dark World?! I mean those guys are normally amazing writers but somehow The Dark World ended up being not good, not bad, just middle of the road.

They hadn't figured out how to make Thor work yet. It's a tough character to crack.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Darth Geek on May 19, 2019, 07:42:47 PM
I want to back up a bit to an earlier entry in the MCU, Thor: The Dark World. The movie was by my standards pretty mediocre. What truly bothers me though is that it was written by Christopher Markus and Stephen Mcfeely, the guys who also wrote Captain America The First Avenger, Captain America The Winter Soldier, Captain America Civil War, Avengers Infinity War and Avengers Endgame. This begs the question... WTH went wrong with Thor The Dark World?! I mean those guys are normally amazing writers but somehow The Dark World ended up being not good, not bad, just middle of the road.
I think they were stuck with the Marvel mandated story outline. The fetch quest for the Evil Space Cool-Aid (Reality Gem), lame villain, no threat for Thor or Loki because they were needed for later in the series, and no reason for Jane or Darcy to be involved at all.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Kete on May 19, 2019, 08:07:59 PM
The worst part is a mediocre villain. The rest was pretty good for me.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: stansimpson on May 20, 2019, 07:19:27 AM
I want to back up a bit to an earlier entry in the MCU, Thor: The Dark World. The movie was by my standards pretty mediocre. What truly bothers me though is that it was written by Christopher Markus and Stephen Mcfeely, the guys who also wrote Captain America The First Avenger, Captain America The Winter Soldier, Captain America Civil War, Avengers Infinity War and Avengers Endgame. This begs the question... WTH went wrong with Thor The Dark World?! I mean those guys are normally amazing writers but somehow The Dark World ended up being not good, not bad, just middle of the road.
I think they were stuck with the Marvel mandated story outline. The fetch quest for the Evil Space Cool-Aid (Reality Gem), lame villain, no threat for Thor or Loki because they were needed for later in the series, and no reason for Jane or Darcy to be involved at all.
They basically did their best to kill Loki (the "disguised as Odin" was an afterthought). Not sure how Jane had no reason when she was literally the mcguffin. Agreed about the lame villain though. The threat was really big though. Too big, if anything. The whole 9 realms? You would want more than just Thor on the job for that.

But, overall, I think TDW gets looked down upon too much, because people are bored of beating down on Incredible Hulk for being the weakest. TDW had Loki at some of his most playfulness, killing off Thor's mom was a big emotional stake, and the climax was very clever regarding the use of portals 5 years before Dr. Strange did the same thing in IW.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: ScottotD on May 21, 2019, 07:17:48 PM
The worst part is a mediocre villain. The rest was pretty good for me.

It was kind of the epitome of spooky villain and big blue space tunnel formula, I still like it though myself.  The interplay between Thor and Loki is just fun
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Darth Geek on May 21, 2019, 07:33:10 PM
The interplay between Thor and Loki is just fun
I do agree with that. Especially the Captain America cameo.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Kete on May 22, 2019, 02:36:57 PM
And Kat Dennings and Chris O'Dowd are both great.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Darth Geek on May 23, 2019, 06:59:54 AM
And Kat Dennings and Chris O'Dowd are both great.
Eh, I found Kat Dennings' character to be annoying and pointless. I don't blame the actress for that, she's just unnecessary comic relief in a movie with other characters that can do the little sprinkled in comedy the movie needs.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Darth Geek on July 17, 2019, 07:44:20 AM
That is interesting that we are getting a Thor 4, since it looks like he's going to be in the next Guardians of the Galaxy movie. Although we don't know yet which one will happen first.

Personally I'm just glad it means that Akira is put on hold.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Kete on July 17, 2019, 02:04:49 PM
I LOVE Taika and I LOVED Ragnarok!  It is my #1 MCU film.  I just worry about being able to recapture the magic in the next one.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Edward J Grug III on July 17, 2019, 07:08:34 PM
I LOVE Taika and I LOVED Ragnarok!  It is my #1 MCU film.  I just worry about being able to recapture the magic in the next one.

I'm with you. I'm also worried Disney will have to fire him when his Hitler comedy comes out :P
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Johnny Unusual on July 20, 2019, 07:39:46 PM
A lot of huge announcements, including the movie and TV schedule.

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/367794005464973315/602314765502513152/D_9pGhRU8AIQx3K.jpg)

Worth noting: The Mandarin will be the big villain of Shang Chi apparently.  The Hawkeye show will be about Kate Bishop.  Natalie Portman is returning... as Thor.  Scarlet Witch will be a co-star in Doctor Strange.

In the further future, Mahershala Ali will be Blade.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Russoguru on July 20, 2019, 08:09:51 PM
Wanda and Doctor Strange teaming up is going to be fucking awesome!!!!  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Kete on July 21, 2019, 06:21:21 AM
Well, didn't Mahershala already play Blade in Alita? I don't know, I never saw it.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Russoguru on July 21, 2019, 11:16:54 AM
Well, didn't Mahershala already play Blade in Alita? I don't know, I never saw it.
I don't mean to sound like a fucking correctional nerd, but in Alita he portrayed a character named Vector. Only other thing I remember about that movie is how super hot Jennifer Connelly still is.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: LucasM on July 26, 2019, 11:27:04 AM
We all kinda' figured this, but figured I'd share it anyway.  From HERE (https://www.gamesradar.com/marvel-phase-5-kevin-feige-plans/).

Quote
Speaking to MTV News, Feige teased that things are pretty much set in stone for next two Phases: “We debated whether to announce [Phases] 4 and 5 today. We’ve planned them out; we’ve got five years down the road.”

So, why wasn’t Marvel Phase 5 up on the big screen in San Diego alongside Phase 4’s two-year stint? “I was like, ‘11 projects in two years is plenty,’” confirmed Feige.

We also pretty much know what'll be in phase 5, as he announced the other films that can be expected (e.g. Black Panther 2, Captain Marvel 2, Blade, Fantastic Four, X-Men), he just didn't give the order of release or release dates for them.  It is possible that that reveal may be done at the D23 Expo this year.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Darth Geek on July 26, 2019, 12:00:29 PM
We all kinda' figured this, but figured I'd share it anyway.  From HERE (https://www.gamesradar.com/marvel-phase-5-kevin-feige-plans/).

Quote
Speaking to MTV News, Feige teased that things are pretty much set in stone for next two Phases: “We debated whether to announce [Phases] 4 and 5 today. We’ve planned them out; we’ve got five years down the road.”

So, why wasn’t Marvel Phase 5 up on the big screen in San Diego alongside Phase 4’s two-year stint? “I was like, ‘11 projects in two years is plenty,’” confirmed Feige.

We also pretty much know what'll be in phase 5, as he announced the other films that can be expected (e.g. Black Panther 2, Captain Marvel 2, Blade, Fantastic Four, X-Men), he just didn't give the order of release or release dates for them.  It is possible that that reveal may be done at the D23 Expo this year.
So what will distinguish Phase 4 from Phase 5? In the other phases the delineation has been an Avengers movie, but there aren't any more of those (that have been announced).
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 4 (Movie Lineup Through 2021)
Post by: LucasM on August 20, 2019, 07:36:31 PM
By the way, the title for this thread might be updated (as I did for this post), since we're now talking phases 4+5.


Shit:
Quote
Disney-Sony Standoff Ends Marvel Studios & Kevin Feige’s Involvement In ‘Spider-Man’ (https://deadline.com/2019/08/kevin-feige-spider-man-franchise-exit-disney-sony-dispute-avengers-endgame-captain-america-winter-soldier-tom-rothman-bob-iger-1202672545/)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Pak-Man on August 20, 2019, 10:35:59 PM
Maybe it's good ol' denial, but I feel like this is someone playing hardball. Like when The Simpsons cast threatens to quit every couple seasons. In the end they'll both remember they like money and reach some sort of arrangement. (I hope!)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: goflyblind on August 28, 2019, 06:12:20 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/0GPTDw7.jpg)

simu liu talking about how important it is to have canadian representation in the mcu: https://twitter.com/TheBeaverton/status/1156565728235020290

(sometimes the pretender [the beaverton] can be as good as the original [the onion])
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Johnny Unusual on September 27, 2019, 09:48:54 AM
Guess what? (https://news.avclub.com/staying-together-for-the-kids-sony-and-marvel-strike-a-1838529276)
(https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/911/786/8bc.gif)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Darth Geek on September 27, 2019, 09:57:38 AM
Guess what? (https://news.avclub.com/staying-together-for-the-kids-sony-and-marvel-strike-a-1838529276)
(https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/911/786/8bc.gif)
Chicken butt?
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Johnny Unusual on September 27, 2019, 11:29:10 AM
"Get me pictures of Chicken Butt!"
*slam table*
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: LucasM on November 15, 2019, 06:41:40 PM
Might want to change the title of this thread - we're way beyond Phase 3, and almost at the end of 2019.  Unless this thread is designed to expire with the end of the first major MCU saga, the infinity stone saga.

At any rate...  to cross-post from the other MCU thread:

Alright! :highfive:  As I'd hoped with the 20th Century Fox studio resources, Marvel will, starting in 2022, start releasing FOUR films a year (http://)!  (The first "fourth" in 2021 will be the Marvel/Sony Spider-Man 3, but the next year, and likely any year without a Spider-Man film, it will be Disney/Marvel.)

From my updated chronology post (http://forum.rifftrax.com/index.php?topic=32583.msg962019#msg962019):
Shang-Chi and the Legend of the 10 Rings . . . . Feb 12, 2021
Loki Disney+ . . . . [Spring 2021]
WandaVision (no: not WonkaVision) Disney+ . . . . Spring 2021
Doctor Strange 2: In The Multiverse of Madness . . . . May 7, 2021
Spider-Man 3 . . . . July 16, 2021
"What If?" Disney+ animated series . . . . Summer 2021
Hawkeye  Disney+ . . . . Fall 2021
Thor: Love and Thunder . . . . Nov. 5, 2021

as-yet untitled Marvel movie . . . . Feb. 18, 2022
Black Panther 2 . . . . May 6, 2022
as-yet untitled Marvel movie . . . . July 29, 2022
as-yet untitled Marvel movie . . . . Oct. 7, 2022
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Pastor of Muppets on January 12, 2020, 10:20:03 AM
I've been converting my MCU DVD collection to Blu-Ray.  It's not so much the picture quality as it is the special features.  Somewhere along the line, they stopped putting commentary and special features on there.  So I've been collecting.  But I like the DVD cases better because they're the same size.  Now I have a bunch of Blu-Rays inside DVD cases.  Anyone want DVDs of the following movies?

Captain America 1-3
Iron Man 1-3
Guardians of the Galaxy 1-2
Avengers Age of Ultron
Dr Strange
Ant Man
Black Panther
Spiderman Homecoming

Also Thor 1-3 will be available in a few weeks.  I didn't replace those yet.

I thought about giving these to Goodwill, but the fact that they are DVDs in Blu Ray cases is just going to cause all sorts of confusion.  I considered giving them to my sister, but she's so disorganized that these things would end up on the floor and scuffed and cracked and stuff.  So I hope to give them to someone who can somewhat appreciate them.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Kete on January 12, 2020, 02:20:10 PM
Cool! Iron Man 2 is the only one I don't own. If nobody wants the others, I have a neighbor that would take them for sure.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Pastor of Muppets on January 13, 2020, 04:33:27 PM
Cool! Iron Man 2 is the only one I don't own. If nobody wants the others, I have a neighbor that would take them for sure.
Well it looks like no takers.  Plus it's easier to make one shipment.  Do you want me to ship this week or do you want to wait a week or two for the Thor movies.  Like I said, I haven't upgraded those yet but it's in the near future.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Russoguru on January 13, 2020, 09:40:43 PM
I absolutely love it when they do a DVD Blu-ray combo pack. But I‘ve finally gotten to the point where I actually prefer Blu-ray over DVD, especially since in my experience anyway Blu-ray discs are a lot more resilient and more difficult to damage then DVDs.

I just saw a new teaser for Black widow earlier, and it looks freaking awesome. I’m gonna tell you right now I really hope this is how Black widow ends...
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Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Kete on January 14, 2020, 06:30:12 AM
Cool! Iron Man 2 is the only one I don't own. If nobody wants the others, I have a neighbor that would take them for sure.
Well it looks like no takers.  Plus it's easier to make one shipment.  Do you want me to ship this week or do you want to wait a week or two for the Thor movies.  Like I said, I haven't upgraded those yet but it's in the near future.

Thanks man. I can wait. How much do you think shipping will be?
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Pastor of Muppets on January 14, 2020, 09:00:21 AM
Cool! Iron Man 2 is the only one I don't own. If nobody wants the others, I have a neighbor that would take them for sure.
Well it looks like no takers.  Plus it's easier to make one shipment.  Do you want me to ship this week or do you want to wait a week or two for the Thor movies.  Like I said, I haven't upgraded those yet but it's in the near future.

Thanks man. I can wait. How much do you think shipping will be?

Probably like 5 bucks via Media mail if you're in the United States.  Private message me with your address.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: The Lurker on February 05, 2020, 05:11:56 PM
Looks like we're getting Sam Raimi for Doctor Strange 2.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Russoguru on February 06, 2020, 08:08:46 AM
That works for me,
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: LucasM on February 06, 2020, 07:31:08 PM
Looks like we're getting Sam Raimi for Doctor Strange 2.

Please no!  [Despite my chiropractor being his brother-in-law.]  To me, his work is simply not high enough quality to manage in the MCU.  His stories are not remotely quality enough.  And definitely not for what is pretty much my favorite character in the MCU (though Tom Holland's Spidey's quite close).  While Raimi's Spider-Man 2 film was good (with what we had to compare it to at the time), it was - to me - still lower quality than even the least of the MCU films (e.g. Incredible Hulk, Thor: Dark World) in precision of story and execution.

The only possible redemption for him as director is the strong likelihood of Marvel removing him from the position if he's not keeping to the quality standards they've had for films thus far.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: ScottotD on February 06, 2020, 07:35:26 PM
Looks like we're getting Sam Raimi for Doctor Strange 2.

HOOK IT INTO MY VEINS! ALL THE WEIRDNESS!
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Darth Geek on February 06, 2020, 08:04:10 PM
Looks like we're getting Sam Raimi for Doctor Strange 2.
I hope this means that Bruce Campbell will have a cameo!
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Johnny Unusual on February 07, 2020, 09:25:41 AM
As Captain Ultra

(https://www.writeups.org/wp-content/uploads/Captain-Ultra-Marvel-Comics.jpg)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Darth Geek on February 07, 2020, 09:56:05 AM
He'll probably end up being the voice of Doop

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/d/d6/Doop.png/250px-Doop.png)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Darth Geek on February 07, 2020, 09:58:08 AM
Too bad Arm Fall Off Boy is a DC character, that would be perfect for Ted Raimi.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Johnny Unusual on February 07, 2020, 10:02:40 AM
He could be Mr. Immortal

(https://memestatic.fjcdn.com/pictures/Its+the+hardknock+life+mr+immortal+cant+diesource+httpsreadcomiconlinetocomicglaissue1id68284_eaea41_6857379.jpg)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Darth Geek on February 07, 2020, 10:13:54 AM
Um...isn't ASH considered canon in the Marvel Universe?!

(https://inntherezt.files.wordpress.com/2017/09/marvel_zombies_vs-_army_of_darkness_vol_1_3.jpg?w=549&h=847)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Johnny Unusual on February 07, 2020, 10:21:29 AM
Yes. Sort of.  Its one of the rare intercompany crossovers that is considered canonical.  But it takes place in one of the zombie universes (the first one) but not in THE Marvel Universe.  But yes, he is in the Multiverse, which is relevant.  Also, the Bluth Company is part of the MCU.  Make of that what you will.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Russoguru on February 08, 2020, 07:15:20 PM
Guys!! This could be the way we get Bruce Campbell into the MCU!!!!
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Edward J Grug III on February 09, 2020, 04:15:11 PM
I'm with Lucas - I think Raimi is not very good. We've also already seen three of his movies playing in the Marvel sandbox, and he shat the bed pretty hard.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Russoguru on February 09, 2020, 04:26:12 PM
I myself am an outlier. I do NOT like the original Spiderman trilogy at all. However, I think that has mostly to do with the fact that I can't stand Toby Maguire and his stupid, dumb, annoying quivering lips and his stupid face. Seriously, I can't stand Toby Maguire. The fact that Spiderman 2 is highly regarded by tons of people really annoys the hell out of me.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: The Lurker on February 09, 2020, 05:50:45 PM
I'm with Lucas - I think Raimi is not very good. We've also already seen three of his movies playing in the Marvel sandbox, and he shat the bed pretty hard.
Wasn't Spiderman 3 a product of executive meddling?
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Edward J Grug III on February 09, 2020, 05:59:18 PM
I'm with Lucas - I think Raimi is not very good. We've also already seen three of his movies playing in the Marvel sandbox, and he shat the bed pretty hard.
Wasn't Spiderman 3 a product of executive meddling?

From memory he was forced to have Venom in there. Not to make a garbage movie.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: The Lurker on February 09, 2020, 06:24:28 PM
I think this may be the one that's going to have more of a horror bent to it, so it very well could work with Raimi in the director's chair.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Edward J Grug III on February 09, 2020, 06:36:54 PM
I think this may be the one that's going to have more of a horror bent to it, so it very well could work with Raimi in the director's chair.

Well, in terms of a timeline on this, Derrickson (horror director) dropped out a week after after Feige said it wasn't going to be a horror movie, just a movie "with scary sequences in it."

Also, aside from the Spider-Man disaster, Raimi's last movie (a studio blockbuster) was The Great and Powerful Oz. Maybe he's just not cut out for blockbusters?
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: The Lurker on February 09, 2020, 06:40:20 PM
I think this may be the one that's going to have more of a horror bent to it, so it very well could work with Raimi in the director's chair.

Well, in terms of a timeline on this, Derrickson (horror director) dropped out a week after after Feige said it wasn't going to be a horror movie, just a movie "with scary sequences in it."

Also, aside from the Spider-Man disaster, Raimi's last movie (a studio blockbuster) was The Great and Powerful Oz. Maybe he's just not cut out for blockbusters?
Derrickson is still involved in the project, though, just not as director.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Edward J Grug III on February 09, 2020, 06:50:35 PM
I think this may be the one that's going to have more of a horror bent to it, so it very well could work with Raimi in the director's chair.

Well, in terms of a timeline on this, Derrickson (horror director) dropped out a week after after Feige said it wasn't going to be a horror movie, just a movie "with scary sequences in it."

Also, aside from the Spider-Man disaster, Raimi's last movie (a studio blockbuster) was The Great and Powerful Oz. Maybe he's just not cut out for blockbusters?
Derrickson is still involved in the project, though, just not as director.

Yeah, he's an EP - probably because of all of the pre-production work he did - He still quit as director over 'creative differences.'

https://variety.com/2020/film/news/doctor-strange-in-the-multiverse-of-madness-director-scott-derrickson-drops-out-marvel-1203462569/

So his vision of the film (which he has been calling a horror all along) doesn't align with Marvel's - Who are now pulling back on the horror idea.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Edward J Grug III on February 09, 2020, 06:58:45 PM
Like, I'm not saying it can't be good, worse directors than Raimi have had great success working with Marvel, but this seems like textbook studio meddling, a move away from what was making this particular project so interesting, and frankly, a weird choice for Raimi, although maybe he's having a hard time getting a gig these days?

Of the current MCU slate, this was the movie I was most interested in - Black Widow isn't exciting me at all, nor the Eternals. I have high hopes for Shang Chi, but since we've seen nothing, I have nothing to hook into.

I didn't even like the first Strange that much, but this one sounded really promising - like it might take a chance and do something really different - and it seems like they are pulling right back.

I hope it turns out great, but every piece of news inspires less and less confidence.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: ScottotD on February 09, 2020, 07:07:10 PM
I'm with Lucas - I think Raimi is not very good. We've also already seen three of his movies playing in the Marvel sandbox, and he shat the bed pretty hard.
Wasn't Spiderman 3 a product of executive meddling?

The first one was fine, especially since for it's time.   The second is amazing and I think the third gets a bad rap, it's a mess but it has moments
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Edward J Grug III on February 09, 2020, 07:23:52 PM
I'm with Lucas - I think Raimi is not very good. We've also already seen three of his movies playing in the Marvel sandbox, and he shat the bed pretty hard.
Wasn't Spiderman 3 a product of executive meddling?

The first one was fine, especially since for it's time.   The second is amazing and I think the third gets a bad rap, it's a mess but it has moments

I prefer the first, and have always found the second to drag. I'm on board with the rap 3 has.

Also, I don't think the Evil Dead series is all that good.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Kete on February 10, 2020, 12:39:57 PM
All three are great, and I love EMO Peter Parker.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Pak-Man on February 10, 2020, 03:15:16 PM
I really and truly don't think we'd even have an MCU if it hadn't been for how well audiences accepted the first couple Spider-Man and X-Men movies. Time hasn't treated them super-well, but I think people have forgotten how weird it was to see accurate representation of a Super-Hero on-screen back then. Spider-Man 2 is my favorite of the bunch. The train scene! The fight on the side of a building!
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Johnny Unusual on February 10, 2020, 04:26:54 PM
And pretty much any moment with JJJ.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Darth Geek on February 11, 2020, 09:38:03 AM
And pretty much any moment with JJJ.
Agreed!

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Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Russoguru on February 11, 2020, 12:57:46 PM
I might have said this before, but I also don't care for Spiderman 2 in large part because it felt like it was re-using the idea of a superhero in a superhero movie LOSING THEIR POWERS. Superman 2 did the exact, same thing and as a result I never liked that movie much. I don't care how such an idea is executed, it never works for me, it always falls flat. It's a very uninspired trope that kills a movie for me faster than anything else.

Now, try executing the idea from another angle can work. For example, one of the Captain Marvel paperbacks I own shows Captain Marvel can't fly anymore because of a brain tumor. She hasn't lost her powers, she just can't use one of her many powers. THAT could be interested if executed properly. But FTLOG(for the love of God) don't give me a story with such an obvious direction. I mean Super hero loses powers, realizes they HAVE to get their powers back for the good of mankind/the good of the city/the sake of their marriage/whatever feels like something in a made for TV movie and not a big summer blockbuster. At least Spiderman 3 didn't go in a direction that was boring. I mean yeah, Spiderman 3 was bad, but in some ways I like it better than Spiderman 2.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Darth Geek on February 11, 2020, 01:13:30 PM
I might have said this before, but I also don't care for Spiderman 2 in large part because it felt like it was re-using the idea of a superhero in a superhero movie LOSING THEIR POWERS. Superman 2 did the exact, same thing and as a result I never liked that movie much. I don't care how such an idea is executed, it never works for me, it always falls flat. It's a very uninspired trope that kills a movie for me faster than anything else.

I do agree with you about this. In Spider-Man 2 he's choosing whether to be Peter Parker or Spider-Man. And from an audience member's standpoint we would always choose for him to be the superhero because that's what we came to see. Plus we're smart enough now to know that he's going to go back to it by the end of the movie anyway. But at least that's not what everybody remembers about Spider-Man 2 anyway.
I had a similar issue with the Nolan Batman movies, especially the third one. Because they so overemphasized how difficult it was for Bruce to be Batman, mentally and physically. But we want him to be Batman. So there's a disconnect between what the audience and the filmmaker wants.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Edward J Grug III on February 11, 2020, 05:53:08 PM
And pretty much any moment with JJJ.
Agreed!

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He IS perfectly cast and mostly great, however - It gets over-shadowed by the shit they did with Emo-Spider, but JJJ electrified desk garbage in SM3 also stunk.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: kunedog on February 11, 2020, 06:22:18 PM
Definitely gonna see Black Widow and Dr. Strange, and I have no idea what to think about Shang-Chi.  Nothing else in phase 4 (don't we need a new thread?) interests me, except maybe Loki.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Russoguru on February 12, 2020, 01:23:56 AM
So Falcon and the Winter soldier and WandaVision isn’t interesting? The Eternals could also be really good, as well as Thor love and thunder. I’m really stoked to see the what if series that’s going to be amazing.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Pak-Man on February 12, 2020, 08:03:01 AM
I'm automatically interested in anything that takes place in the MCU just because it takes place there and I want to know everything about what's happened before whatever happens next. They have me wrapped around their finger, and I'm fine with it.

I've mentioned this before, but I really like where the MCU stands right now. Pretty much their entire A-List has been represented already, so if it's not a sequel, it's going to be about someone very few people know. It might even be about someone I don't know well! Then I think back to Guardians of the Galaxy, and how I had no idea who they were and how the movie still completely sold me and pretty much everyone else on the concept, and suddenly there was a new corner of the comic book universe to explore. I can't wait for that to happen again.

It'll probably take a lot more work to get audiences to see, say, Moon Girl and Devil Dinosaur than it would to get them to see Iron Man 4, but the thought that a Moon Girl and Devil Dinosaur movie isn't a completely ridiculous notion is exciting.

EDIT: Disclaimer - I've never read Moon Girl and Devil Dinosaur but I hear it's fantastic.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: goflyblind on February 12, 2020, 08:05:07 AM
I'm automatically interested in anything that takes place in the MCU just because it takes place there and I want to know everything about what's happened before whatever happens next. They have me wrapped around their finger, and I'm fine with it.

i used to be like that about star trek. but then i heard quentin tarantino wanted to make a star trek movie. :gouge:
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Darth Geek on February 12, 2020, 08:47:42 AM
I'm really jazzed for Falcon and Winter Soldier. But Wandavision...not sure. It sounds like they may do creative things in it, based on the trailer. But Scarlet Witch really annoys me. Her powers are just whatever the writers needs them to be at the time. Maybe they'll explain them better and put some actual limits on them in the show?
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: kunedog on February 13, 2020, 01:36:53 PM
So Falcon and the Winter soldier and WandaVision isn’t interesting? The Eternals could also be really good, as well as Thor love and thunder. I’m really stoked to see the what if series that’s going to be amazing.

Cap's gone, so I care about as much as I would about Iron Man 4: War and Pepper.

In general, I don't watch much TV, but of course there are exceptions like The Boys and Haunting of Hill House, where the shows have already "aired" and people I trust say good things.  And I much prefer binging Netflix- and Amazon-style over the weekly scheduling that Disney clearly wants to do.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Russoguru on February 14, 2020, 10:06:57 AM
I'm stoked for pretty much every Marvel movie coming out this phase. Black Widow, Eternals, Shang Chi, Doctor Strange and the Multiverse of Madness, Thor Love and Thunder. Then phase 5 we're seeing Black Panther 2. Damn man as long as they can keep up by hitting up quality writers and directors, I'll go see MCU movies until I've got one foot in the grave.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Darth Geek on February 14, 2020, 12:00:34 PM
Eternals is the only one I'm not familiar with. But I wasn't familiar with the Guardians of the Galaxy when they announced it, and that turned out great.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 (Movie Lineup Through 2019)
Post by: Johnny Unusual on February 14, 2020, 04:03:58 PM
I feel like even amongst Marvel fans, Eternals is an outlier.  It feels like they decided on that when they realized they f-ed up Inhumans by making it a bad TV show.  HOW DARE YOU WASTE THE CINEMATIC POTENTIAL OF A GIANT TELEPORTING BULLDOG WITH A TUNING FORK ON HIS HEAD.

But I'm still excited for jacked Kumail Nanjiani and one of Jack Kirby's 70s era properties.  As good as he was at creating most of the Marvel Universe in the silver age, his bronze age work is so wonderfully wacked out with big cosmic ideas so here's hoping the filmmakers go nuts with some over the top crazy ideas.  I mean, in the wake of Guardians, I feel like there's very few ideas that are too out there for the audiences anymore.