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Title: CONFIRMED: Twin Peaks returns!
Post by: MightyBombJack on October 03, 2014, 08:53:26 PM
I would definitely watch a new Twin Peaks series, hope it's not on Showtime though since I don't get it.

http://www.nerdist.com/2014/10/david-lynch-and-mark-frost-tease-twin-peaks-return-on-twittter/

(http://www.nerdist.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/twinpeaks25years.jpg)
Title: Re: David Lynch and Mark Frost Tease Twin Peaks Return on Twitter
Post by: TheUnabeefer on October 04, 2014, 09:49:04 PM
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I'm especially excited due to the sorta confirmation by Harley Peyton... Confirmation that it's not just some flighty tease at least.

http://welcometotwinpeaks.com/news/mark-frost-david-lynch-tweet-twin-peaks/
Title: Re: David Lynch and Mark Frost Tease Twin Peaks Return on Twitter
Post by: TheUnabeefer on October 05, 2014, 09:26:18 AM
I'm really surprised more people aren't commenting in this thread. This is the most reliable rumour we could hope for!!
Title: Re: David Lynch and Mark Frost Tease Twin Peaks Return on Twitter
Post by: TheUnabeefer on October 06, 2014, 09:15:47 AM
And apparently it's official. 9 episodes on Showtime in 2016

http://welcometotwinpeaks.com/news/new-twin-peaks-2016-showtime/
Title: CONFIRMED: Twin Peaks returns!
Post by: TheUnabeefer on October 06, 2014, 09:32:55 AM
Despite the lack of comments in the other thread about this, I'm starting a new thread now that it's no longer rumor.

http://welcometotwinpeaks.com/news/new-twin-peaks-2016-showtime/

I don't know about all you other people, but I'm fucking thrilled.
Title: Re: David Lynch and Mark Frost Tease Twin Peaks Return on Twitter
Post by: Bob on October 06, 2014, 03:56:00 PM
Showtime?

They must have spend money on this.
Title: Re: David Lynch and Mark Frost Tease Twin Peaks Return on Twitter
Post by: Compound on October 06, 2014, 06:30:28 PM
(http://zpopk.blox.pl/resource/simpson_tp.jpg)


There's a Simpsons image for almost everything. Of course there's this too:


(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-k3dyXt4O8zs/UWZMK6F__cI/AAAAAAAANbQ/OzhQrAum1s0/s640/scooby-doo-twin-peaks-red-room.jpg)
Title: Re: David Lynch and Mark Frost Tease Twin Peaks Return on Twitter
Post by: Bob on October 07, 2014, 02:36:43 AM
I never watched the show or the movies, so I have no idea what happened.

oh, all 30 episodes are on Netflix instant watch!
Title: Re: David Lynch and Mark Frost Tease Twin Peaks Return on Twitter
Post by: BiteMe316 on October 07, 2014, 05:18:47 AM
What Bob said.  Hell, I've barely heard of it.  I was too young to have seen it then.   :P
Title: Re: CONFIRMED: Twin Peaks returns!
Post by: Johnny Unusual on October 07, 2014, 06:21:02 AM
There's already a thread.  Maybe these can be merged?
Title: Re: David Lynch and Mark Frost Tease Twin Peaks Return on Twitter
Post by: PsychoGoatee on October 07, 2014, 12:13:09 PM
Love it, I can't wait! Lynch is the man.

(Being young is no excuse, I first watched Twin Peaks in the 2000s, art lives on baby!  ;D)
Title: Re: David Lynch and Mark Frost Tease Twin Peaks Return on Twitter
Post by: BiteMe316 on October 07, 2014, 12:23:17 PM
Love it, I can't wait! Lynch is the man.

(Being young is no excuse, I first watched Twin Peaks in the 2000s, art lives on baby!  ;D )


And I have no desire at all to see it.  Not into that kind shows. 
Title: Re: CONFIRMED: Twin Peaks returns!
Post by: TheUnabeefer on October 07, 2014, 04:36:50 PM
There's already a thread.  Maybe these can be merged?

Yeah, I stated there was a thread, but the title still says it's a "tease" and "rumour". That thread should die a miserable horrible death.

I figured maybe people would start actually fucking POSTING about it if they maybe realize that it's not just a rumour.

I have no problem the threads merging, but maybe not into the title about it being a rumour??

Also, you people are all stupid for taking so god damned long to actually start discussing this, considering it's even bigger news than the new Pink Floyd album!!!! #YesAllBanned
Title: Re: David Lynch and Mark Frost Tease Twin Peaks Return on Twitter
Post by: TheUnabeefer on October 07, 2014, 04:42:05 PM
Love it, I can't wait! Lynch is the man.

(Being young is no excuse, I first watched Twin Peaks in the 2000s, art lives on baby!  ;D )


And I have no desire at all to see it.  Not into that kind shows.

You're not into mysteries or late-night dramas?
I can't think of a show that's had more influence on the current trend of TV style, everything starting with The X Files all the way through to Breaking Bad (the "magnets" scene was SO incredibly "twin peaksy" I about lost it!)

I watched Twin Peaks first back when it aired, and several dozen times since. You're never too young to watch it. (unless maybe you're a toddler right now?)

I'm so happy about this!! Hopefully they'll give a bit more closure to all the cliff-hangers, which I am very sure they'll do...   It will also be nice to see the show finish off back with the roots it started at... being written by Lynch/Frost and directed by Lynch. It will be closer to season 1 than 2, I am sure, and this makes me happy.
Title: Re: CONFIRMED: Twin Peaks returns!
Post by: Bob on October 07, 2014, 07:17:29 PM
Never watched a second of it....but Netflix will fix me
Title: Re: CONFIRMED: Twin Peaks returns!
Post by: Johnny Unusual on October 07, 2014, 07:51:36 PM
Warning for those saying "Going to watch now".  Season 1?  Great!  Season 2.  Starts great.  Then downward slide into not goodness.  Last episode is AMAZING, so stick with it!

I just think it is cool that the unintended 25 year promise will be kept!  Now I'm hoping for that Mulholland Drive TV series, which would have been amazing, rather than a fairly good movie (I think some of the end craziness would have paid off better after a season of build up).  Very good chance that the magic is gone, but there is no doubt that it is going to be interesting!


I'm so happy about this!! Hopefully they'll give a bit more closure to all the cliff-hangers, which I am very sure they'll do...   It will also be nice to see the show finish off back with the roots it started at... being written by Lynch/Frost and directed by Lynch. It will be closer to season 1 than 2, I am sure, and this makes me happy.

Of course, while there will probably be closure, it won't necessarily fit things into a neat little box, since Lynch works like that.  As much as I want a happy ending for Agent Cooper, there's a good chance the show will end in an even darker spot than we were left with before.  But as long as it feels like a dark ending than an unresolved cliffhanger, I suppose.

Oh, and the restaurant Li'l Gideon patronizes in Gravity Falls...

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

That Black/White Lodge is everywhere.
Title: Re: CONFIRMED: Twin Peaks returns!
Post by: TheUnabeefer on October 07, 2014, 08:35:02 PM
Warning for those saying "Going to watch now".  Season 1?  Great!  Season 2.  Starts great.  Then downward slide into not goodness.  Last episode is AMAZING, so stick with it!

Even in the worst part of season 2 there are some wonderful gems amongst all the other lamer storylines (the only really hard one to get through is James and that lady, but even that has an amazingly wonderful scene at the little bar)... They were very clearly trying to scramble to find a strong story to carry on with after the network forced them to close the initial one. I blame ABC entirely for it....

...but again, it's still worth watching as long as you keep in mind that there a bit of dumb in the middle of s2. (fun dumb mostly, but dumb nevertheless)

And the last chunk of episodes of season 2 are amazing, particularly the final 3.
Title: Re: CONFIRMED: Twin Peaks returns!
Post by: Johnny Unusual on October 07, 2014, 09:22:00 PM
I think the biggest flaw in season two is making the teen characters, who were so interesting in the first season, so deathly boring in the second.  It's like after
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
then the series really had nothing to do with them anymore and the characters stopped being interesting.  That's especially bad for Audrey, who is possibly the series best character after Agent Cooper.  She's such a great femme fatale when the series begins (albeit one with a good heart deep down, despite her largely amoral worldview that is only slightly altered by her attraction to an extremely moral and spiritual man), so it seem like such a crime to have her be just some other character (and trying to pawn her off on Billy Zane, who somehow isn't playing a psycho this time, is weak sauce).  But really all the teen characters suffer on that show and lose their edge that made them so engaging in season 1.

But yes, I will admit there are moments in mid-season two that are great.  But it does become painful when it turns its quirkiness into broad comedy.
Title: Re: David Lynch and Mark Frost Tease Twin Peaks Return on Twitter
Post by: Compound on October 07, 2014, 09:26:56 PM

And I have no desire at all to see it.  Not into that kind shows.


Did you watch Darkwing Duck? They did an episode loosely based on Twin Peaks: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brlQuf2fXn8


How about The Simpsons? Lisa's bits with Chief Wiggum in "Who Shot Mr Burns?" were based on Twin Peaks as well. It permeated the culture a bit more than you may have thought.


That doesn't mean you'd enjoy it if you watched it. It just means that you may know more about it than you think.
Title: Re: CONFIRMED: Twin Peaks returns!
Post by: BathTub on October 07, 2014, 09:33:13 PM
After the murder is 'solved' is pretty much were I recommend people stop watching.
Title: Re: CONFIRMED: Twin Peaks returns!
Post by: Johnny Unusual on October 07, 2014, 09:36:39 PM
Good advice, except that last episode is AMAZING!  So skip to that, if you need to.  The last 15 minutes might be the scariest thing ever put on TV.
Title: Re: CONFIRMED: Twin Peaks returns!
Post by: TheUnabeefer on October 08, 2014, 01:26:55 PM
That's especially bad for Audrey, who is possibly the series best character after Agent Cooper.  She's such a great femme fatale when the series begins (albeit one with a good heart deep down, despite her largely amoral worldview that is only slightly altered by her attraction to an extremely moral and spiritual man), so it seem like such a crime to have her be just some other character (and trying to pawn her off on Billy Zane, who somehow isn't playing a psycho this time, is weak sauce).

You can blame (entirely) Lara Flynn Boyle for that. She was dating Kyle at the time, and objected VERY sternly to any love interest or dynamic with Audrey for Cooper... And they had a pretty strong storyline already in store for those two, so suddenly they had to find something else for Audrey while eventually minimizing Donna almost entirely because she was causing so much trouble behind the scenes about anything and everything. (Not that Donna was all that great of a character to begin with)

If they bring back Donna in the new season, I hope they get Moira Kelly instead... who played Donna in the movie simply because they didn't want to even deal with Boyle.  Actually, Kyle almost didn't even DO the movie (which is why his part is so small in it), but the lack of Lara helped draw him to it seeing that they had broken up by that point.

You can actually almost SEE the tension when re-watching if you keep all that info in mind about what was going on behind the scenes.
Title: Re: CONFIRMED: Twin Peaks returns!
Post by: BathTub on October 08, 2014, 01:57:24 PM
Give how unrecognizable Lara Flynn Boyle is lately even if they hired her back everyone would think they switched actresses.
Title: Re: CONFIRMED: Twin Peaks returns!
Post by: Johnny Unusual on October 08, 2014, 10:08:46 PM
I'll admit it, I actually made that mistake a couple years back.  I only have seen Boyle in Men In Black II (BOO!) where she was raven haired and they both changed so much that I mistakenly identified Audrey's actress since Lara was known as a femme fatale type.

I could do without Donna and James altogether.  Not a big fan of either, especially after the mystery is solved and their story was kind of resolved at the end, if I remember correctly, so that works out for everyone.

I hope it turns out Nadine spent the last 25 years as a super-hero.  Or a villain.  Either/or.
Title: Re: CONFIRMED: Twin Peaks returns!
Post by: BathTub on October 08, 2014, 10:52:19 PM
Sherilyn Fenn is still gorgeous though.
Title: Re: CONFIRMED: Twin Peaks returns!
Post by: TheUnabeefer on October 09, 2014, 01:16:51 PM
I could do without Donna and James altogether.

Yeah, this... They pretty much single-handedly (both of them with one hand) brought down the second season more than any other... and the first season too really.
Title: Re: CONFIRMED: Twin Peaks returns!
Post by: Johnny Unusual on October 10, 2014, 06:18:03 PM
It's a little more forgivable in the first season because it isn't readily apparent that without the show's central mystery (and Lynch's writing) they are as dull as dishwater.  I think Bobby's transformation is pretty unfortunate too, as he starts out seeming quite dangerous despite being victimized by that one guy who's name eludes me (he had like a pony tail).  That scene we're he and his bud are just barking at James is kind of unsettling.  When we get to the part where his friend is dating Nadine and he's trying to work his way into Ben Horne's good graces (another character who lost his edge towards the end), the characters become far from what they were and the transition isn't done in a satisfying way.  In fact, I wish they explored his dark side more, since I also like the fact that despite his bad boy attitude, he clearly loves and respects his father, which makes for an interesting dichotomy.

But bring back Miguel Ferrer!

http://www.youtube.com/v/ww-88rwt4ms

While I look forward toward more Twin Peaks, I'd love to see a series about the FBI in the world of Twins Peaks, who are strangely spiritual folks.  Crime-fighting monks of love and peace?  Yes, please!
Title: Re: CONFIRMED: Twin Peaks returns!
Post by: Hebs on November 23, 2014, 10:27:58 AM
Sherilyn Fenn is still gorgeous though.

Has it been mentioned in this thread that Lynch wrote her into the show because he thought she was too fascinating not to?  And that Mulholland Drive was supposed to be an "Audrey goes to Hollywood" TV series, but the script treatment turned into a movie later on.

I think this is the article - http://www.avclub.com/article/sherilyn-fenn-talks-david-lynch-and-how-twin-peaks-200898

Audrey + Dale 4evar

Title: Re: CONFIRMED: Twin Peaks returns!
Post by: Hebs on November 23, 2014, 10:30:54 AM
I think the biggest flaw in season two is making the teen characters, who were so interesting in the first season, so deathly boring in the second.  It's like after
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
then the series really had nothing to do with them anymore and the characters stopped being interesting.  That's especially bad for Audrey, who is possibly the series best character after Agent Cooper.  She's such a great femme fatale when the series begins (albeit one with a good heart deep down, despite her largely amoral worldview that is only slightly altered by her attraction to an extremely moral and spiritual man), so it seem like such a crime to have her be just some other character (and trying to pawn her off on Billy Zane, who somehow isn't playing a psycho this time, is weak sauce).  But really all the teen characters suffer on that show and lose their edge that made them so engaging in season 1.

But yes, I will admit there are moments in mid-season two that are great.  But it does become painful when it turns its quirkiness into broad comedy.

Amen about Audrey - her character's transformation is so great, and right as it hits its zenith they kill it - bleh

Oh well, I like how they present the end of season 2 as "an" ending, instead of "the" ending oooooooo :o
Title: Re: CONFIRMED: Twin Peaks returns!
Post by: Soguru on November 29, 2014, 07:39:45 AM
I just hope nobody lynches David over this.
Title: Re: CONFIRMED: Twin Peaks returns!
Post by: TheUnabeefer on November 29, 2014, 08:30:31 AM
Oh well, I like how they present the end of season 2 as "an" ending, instead of "the" ending oooooooo :o

That kind of was because they actually hoped to get a third season way back in the day... Back when shows didn't quite necessarily know they were cancelled yet when the last episode aired.
Title: Re: CONFIRMED: Twin Peaks returns!
Post by: MightyBombJack on April 06, 2015, 09:30:09 AM
http://variety.com/2015/tv/news/twin-peaks-david-lych-leaves-as-director-1201466709/

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Title: Re: CONFIRMED: Twin Peaks returns!
Post by: Johnny Unusual on April 07, 2015, 01:53:56 AM
http://variety.com/2015/tv/news/twin-peaks-david-lych-leaves-as-director-1201466709/

 :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

Well, then forget it.  I mean, it would be fine even if he only did an episode or something, but a complete absence of Lynch makes this a no go for me, even if Mark Frost is still involved.
Title: Re: CONFIRMED: Twin Peaks returns!
Post by: TheUnabeefer on April 15, 2015, 05:58:17 PM
http://variety.com/2015/tv/news/twin-peaks-david-lych-leaves-as-director-1201466709/

 :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

Well, then forget it.  I mean, it would be fine even if he only did an episode or something, but a complete absence of Lynch makes this a no go for me, even if Mark Frost is still involved.

The head of Showtime had no clue Lynch had "backed out" and figures ("hopes" is the word he used) it's either just a negotiation ploy or cold feet. If Showtime has any say in it (and yes, that means throwing more money at Lynch), they'll have him on as director.

Either way, it's still written by Lynch/Frost, and if they even got Tim Hunter back to direct, I'd be just fine. Or even Caleb Deschanel. There were a few that directed a good chunk of original TP episodes (some more than Lynch did himself) that could do it justice and keep the Peaks feel. Ideally, Lynch would go back on his sudden drop-out, but it wouldn't be the end of the show. He still wrote it.
Title: Re: CONFIRMED: Twin Peaks returns!
Post by: Kete on May 21, 2017, 10:55:52 AM
Tonight's the night. Who's ready?
Title: Re: CONFIRMED: Twin Peaks returns!
Post by: Johnny Unusual on May 22, 2017, 04:06:29 PM
Watched the first episode.  And by that, I mean the first half of what everyone watched last night (it was on CraveTV as separate episodes).

Anyway, I liked it, but I'm hoping we get a bit more of the humour from the previous series.  Lynch definitely hasn't lost his touch for the creepy and the first episode had an atmosphere of desolation (there were very few scenes that included more than two or three people and even then the characters felt like they were detached from each other.

Also, the first scene from New York tested my patience a bit but it was worth it for the horrifying second scene in New York.

It took me forever to recognize Matthew Lillard as the main murder suspect.

Oh, and if you have CraveTV or Amazon Prime, the first FOUR episodes are already available.  So, maybe watch out for spoilers there.
Title: Re: CONFIRMED: Twin Peaks returns!
Post by: PsychoGoatee on May 24, 2017, 11:02:21 AM
I love it so far, wild wild stuff, Lynch doing it like only he can. (with credit to Mark Frost for co-writing)

The
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
stuff and whatnot is really really funny, and then we've got some full on horror scenes, the compelling dreamlike weirdness, that unique Lynch magic, so glad they got to make this.
Title: Re: CONFIRMED: Twin Peaks returns!
Post by: Kete on May 24, 2017, 11:18:29 PM
After the first two episodes, I was really worried that it was not going to have any humor or quirkiness. Eps 3 and 4 eased my fears.
Title: Re: CONFIRMED: Twin Peaks returns!
Post by: Johnny Unusual on May 27, 2017, 03:51:40 AM
Looking forward to that.  I hear that Michael Cera does a really good job.  Finished the second episode.  A lot less ponderous than the first (though still patient and avant garde).  The... thing that appeared toward the end of the second episode feels like it crawled out of a Grant Morrison comic.
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: CONFIRMED: Twin Peaks returns!
Post by: Variety of Cells on May 29, 2017, 08:07:35 PM
So far it's devoid of any enjoyable characters. Its pacing is increadibly slow. But that slowness doesn't tell you anything, it doesn't add anything. Even the scenes that are supposedly supposed to be funny are slow, dwelling on a bit way past the point of a chuckle. If brevity is indeed the soul of wit, then Lynch is a Soul Taker. And I don't know how they did it, but Michael Cera's appearance was slower and more tedious than staring at that empty glass box. At least there was an admittedly well done payoff with the glass box.

The original worked because it started as a fairly normal show, then added stranger and stranger pieces for you to puzzle over. It had a focus, and the audiences was invited to try and figure out the puzzle along with the characters. And inbeteen interesting pieces of the puzzle we had characters with personal relationships that we cared about.

So far here we have nothing. We have a bunch of puzzle pieces and weirdness (some that is more expositional than it is weird), but we don't know what we're trying to solve. There is no drive. There are no interesting relationships, just plot points.

I think the fourth episode will be my last. I don't have the patience to crawl through it. It is missinng the charm of the show. But I guess Fire Walk With Me was missing the charm of the show too, so I don't know what I expected.