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Title: The Sinister Six (2016)
Post by: Henry88 on June 14, 2014, 01:35:11 PM
http://www.movieweb.com/movie/the-sinister-six

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It could also be, more positively, because Sony plan to move Sinister Six to 2016, and use that movie to set up a trilogy-ending installment with The Amazing Spider-Man 3 that pits Spider-Man against all six of the Sinister foes. Drew Goddard's departure from Daredevil certainly supports that theory.

http://moviepilot.com/posts/2014/06/13/the-amazing-spider-man-3-pushed-back-until-2017-1500296?lt_source=external,manual#!Y50mb

I still find it hard to believe that Sony is actually going to commence production on a movie starring six Spider-Man villains that doesn't feature Spider-Man.
Title: Re: The Sinister Six (2016)
Post by: Sideswipe on June 14, 2014, 02:19:16 PM
Yeah, I am wondering how they are going to pitch this to the general public that doesnt really care about comics.
Title: Re: The Sinister Six (2016)
Post by: Darth Geek on June 14, 2014, 04:54:57 PM
If they had really planned all of this in advance, they should have had Spider-man incapacitated or something at the end of Amazing Spider-man 2. Then do a Sinister 6 movie where it's the Police and National Guard against the six supervillains, showing that they can't handle them, and at the very end have Spider-man arrive. Then Amazing Spider-man 3 is him against all six of them.
Title: Re: The Sinister Six (2016)
Post by: Soguru on June 17, 2014, 05:27:46 PM
If they had really planned all of this in advance, they should have had Spider-man incapacitated or something at the end of Amazing Spider-man 2. Then do a Sinister 6 movie where it's the Police and National Guard against the six supervillains, showing that they can't handle them, and at the very end have Spider-man arrive. Then Amazing Spider-man 3 is him against all six of them.
unfortunately foresight is lacking not so much in writers but in Hollywood producers. It is only in those rare instances where all things coalesce.... or maybe i'm full of it. I like to keep my options open. :-)
Title: Re: The Sinister Six (2016)
Post by: Darth Geek on June 17, 2014, 07:12:55 PM
They probably didn't have any forsight. Because otherwise how are they going to explain a Sinister 6 movie without Spiderman? And one which presumably they all survive so they can all fight Spiderman in AS3.
Title: Re: The Sinister Six (2016)
Post by: Sideswipe on June 17, 2014, 07:28:22 PM
Who are they supposed to fight?  Six super villains beating the shit out of ordinary beat cops will get boring really fast.
Title: Re: The Sinister Six (2016)
Post by: Soguru on June 17, 2014, 08:38:20 PM
Who are they supposed to fight?  Six super villains beating the shit out of ordinary beat cops will get boring really fast.
Could be interesting to see them fighting other bad guys... Kingpin comes to mind. Heck, if you want to make it a little interesting, throw in a few other crime syndicates as opposed to more out of this world type stuff. That way, it would at least appear to be somewhat grounded in reality. When I say that yes I know I'm talking about a guy with robotic arms, an old man with wings, some Craven little stinker with a lion's mane for a vest, a guy with a fishbowl for a helmet, a Sand guy and... since Electro's dead it's probably useless for me to ask anyway since they have yet to announce who the six are.
Title: Re: The Sinister Six (2016)
Post by: ScottotD on June 18, 2014, 04:20:42 AM
Who are they supposed to fight?  Six super villains beating the shit out of ordinary beat cops will get boring really fast.

I don't know, sounds fun to me. 
Title: Re: The Sinister Six (2016)
Post by: Sideswipe on June 18, 2014, 06:14:48 AM
It depends on how long the movie is.  If its only 20 minutes, yeah, that would be fine.
Title: Re: The Sinister Six (2016)
Post by: mearnest on June 18, 2014, 07:29:26 AM
What I'm wondering is who the protagonist is going to be.  None of the Sinister Six have ever been particularly sympathetic (not counting Sandman's brief flirtation with being a good guy).  If someone was going to make a movie centered on a group of villains, I think Flash's Rogues would work a lot better.
Title: Re: The Sinister Six (2016)
Post by: Darth Geek on June 18, 2014, 08:18:53 AM
It depends on how long the movie is.  If its only 20 minutes, yeah, that would be fine.
Unfortunately it will probably be 2+ hours. Because apparently NOBODY in Hollywood remembers how to make a 90 minute movie anymore!
Title: Re: The Sinister Six (2016)
Post by: Pak-Man on June 18, 2014, 08:22:52 AM
Have they specifically stated there won't be any Spider-Man? It could just be a shift of focus...
Title: Re: The Sinister Six (2016)
Post by: Sideswipe on June 18, 2014, 08:24:32 AM
They said they want to do Sinister Six and Venom spin offs.
Title: Re: The Sinister Six (2016)
Post by: Darth Geek on June 18, 2014, 08:25:31 AM
Have they specifically stated there won't be any Spider-Man? It could just be a shift of focus...
Then it would be...Amazing Spiderman 2.5? I think it'd be odd if they still had Spiderman and didn't have his name in the title. Especially if they were planning on continuing the Amazing Spiderman name with 3 in the next movie.
Title: Re: The Sinister Six (2016)
Post by: Pak-Man on June 18, 2014, 08:32:28 AM
I envision a movie where the Sinister Six are trying to pull off some sort of major heist or scheme or something, and the audience is kinda rooting for them, a-la Ocean's Eleven, and Spider-Man's just this guy who keeps showing up and making things difficult.
Title: Re: The Sinister Six (2016)
Post by: Sideswipe on June 18, 2014, 08:38:50 AM
I think that would be confusing to the general audience.  If Spider-Man shows up to fight the S6 and then just leaves, people will wonder what's going on and why we are with these guys and not with Spider-Man.
Title: Re: The Sinister Six (2016)
Post by: Soguru on June 18, 2014, 05:13:47 PM
Maybe they'll have the mutant Spiderman with more limbs, and Dr Octopus will say "Stay Back, he's armed!"
Title: Re: The Sinister Six (2016)
Post by: Darth Geek on June 18, 2014, 06:37:32 PM
Maybe they'll have the mutant Spiderman with more limbs, and Dr Octopus will say "Stay Back, he's armed!"
I'm going to start slapping you now and I may never stop.
Title: Re: The Sinister Six (2016)
Post by: Sideswipe on June 18, 2014, 06:52:54 PM
Maybe they'll have the mutant Spiderman with more limbs, and Dr Octopus will say "Stay Back, he's armed!"

Oc has 8 arms also, would that make it a super mexican standoff?
Title: Re: The Sinister Six (2016)
Post by: ScottotD on June 18, 2014, 09:21:40 PM
It depends on how long the movie is.  If its only 20 minutes, yeah, that would be fine.
Unfortunately it will probably be 2+ hours. Because apparently NOBODY in Hollywood remembers how to make a 90 minute movie anymore!

Dangnabbit!  ::)
Title: Re: The Sinister Six (2016)
Post by: Henry88 on July 23, 2014, 07:02:28 PM
Spider-Man Villains Movie 'Sinister Six' Gets Nov. 2016 Release Date (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/spider-man-villains-movie-sinister-720605)
As part of the move, Sony pushed back "The Amazing Spider-Man 3" by two years to 2018.
Title: Re: The Sinister Six (2016)
Post by: Soguru on July 24, 2014, 09:37:00 AM
It would be interesting to get some insight into all these characters, what makes them tick and so on. I just hope the... writer has something deeper in mind aside from cliche motivations, i.e. "Oh, The Vulture never wanted to steal because he was a bad guy, he just steals because he needs to support himself because his retirement funds were completely cut off!". Also, I hope their motivation isn't solely revenge on Spider-man or some crap, because forming a gang to fight one guy just seems kind of silly.

I think with the Sinister Six, there should be a perverted sense of family. By that I mean they not just find common ground for their contempt and hatred but amongst themselves they genuinely find a sort of support system they can't find anywhere else.

I hope the filmmakers want to make this an ambitious project. By ambitious, I mean they would set this film over a period of many years where members come and go, they age, they go to jail, sometimes they die. Oh, and one installment, none of this "Coming next Year, Sinister Six 2!". I had an idea that maybe Doctor Octopus hates one of the new members. Maybe that new member gets caught, goes to prison and is killed by an inmate. Despite how much Doc Ock hated the guy, he avenges the guy's death by murdering the killer. This is just one rough idea, but I think it's a fairly decent reflection of what we might want in a Sinister Six movie: A super-powered mafia.

 
Title: Re: The Sinister Six (2016)
Post by: Darth Geek on July 24, 2014, 09:40:18 AM
I would have liked to see it as an Anti-Avengers. Seperate already established villains have to band together to fight an newly emerged superhero.
Title: Re: The Sinister Six (2016)
Post by: Sideswipe on July 24, 2014, 09:42:56 AM
Thats the Dark Avengers.
Title: Re: The Sinister Six (2016)
Post by: Soguru on July 24, 2014, 09:46:57 AM
I would have liked to see it as an Anti-Avengers. Separate already established villains have to band together to fight an newly emerged superhero.
That could work. Seeing them shooting down the SHIELD carriers would make them a pretty significant threat. How do you write a movie where you're rooting for bad guys who are arguably terrorists? I mean considering the radical changes suffered by us over the past decade and a half, this needs to be a movie that is very carefully written and marketed just right.
Title: Re: The Sinister Six (2016)
Post by: Sideswipe on July 24, 2014, 10:00:48 AM
See that is the problem.  Sony only has the Spider-Man rights, so pretty much him and his rogues gallery?  They dont really have anything else from Marvel.  They are going to have to make up there own character(s) for the Six to fight.  I am very curious to see how this is marketed and what they plan to do with it.  I am trying to figure out how the Six are main character material.  I dont know, I think they have to do everything perfectly or this is going to fail.
Title: Re: The Sinister Six (2016)
Post by: Darth Geek on July 24, 2014, 01:40:06 PM
See that is the problem.  Sony only has the Spider-Man rights, so pretty much him and his rogues gallery?  They dont really have anything else from Marvel.  They are going to have to make up there own character(s) for the Six to fight.  I am very curious to see how this is marketed and what they plan to do with it.  I am trying to figure out how the Six are main character material.  I dont know, I think they have to do everything perfectly or this is going to fail.
I would have probably enjoyed seeing the supervillains fight against the police if they were led by Denis Leary's character. But they killed him off in the first movie!
Title: Re: The Sinister Six (2016)
Post by: Johnny Unusual on July 24, 2014, 06:11:35 PM
See that is the problem.  Sony only has the Spider-Man rights, so pretty much him and his rogues gallery?  They dont really have anything else from Marvel.  They are going to have to make up there own character(s) for the Six to fight.  I am very curious to see how this is marketed and what they plan to do with it.  I am trying to figure out how the Six are main character material.  I dont know, I think they have to do everything perfectly or this is going to fail.
I would have probably enjoyed seeing the supervillains fight against the police if they were led by Denis Leary's character. But they killed him off in the first movie!

Once again stealing Bill Hicks' style.
Title: Re: The Sinister Six (2016)
Post by: Sideswipe on July 24, 2014, 06:18:50 PM
Bill Hicks is over it, you should try to get over it too.
Title: Re: The Sinister Six (2016)
Post by: Johnny Unusual on July 24, 2014, 07:35:56 PM
Bill Hicks is over a lot of things.
Title: Re: The Sinister Six (2016)
Post by: Sideswipe on July 25, 2014, 05:14:05 AM
He doesnt care about anything.
Title: Re: The Sinister Six (2016)
Post by: Darth Geek on July 25, 2014, 10:35:52 AM
Why doesn't Bill care?
Title: Re: The Sinister Six (2016)
Post by: Sideswipe on July 25, 2014, 10:52:34 AM
Dead people usually dont.
Title: Re: The Sinister Six (2016)
Post by: Soguru on July 25, 2014, 11:24:32 AM
Hicks didn't like dying then not coming back for the one installment in that one series. He told me so himself.
Title: Re: The Sinister Six (2016)
Post by: Johnny Unusual on July 25, 2014, 06:33:49 PM
He doesnt care about anything.

Well, yes, that's my point.
Title: Re: The Sinister Six (2016)
Post by: Henry88 on August 24, 2014, 04:17:34 PM
Collider:
Marc Webb Discusses SINISTER SIX Plans in the AMAZING SPIDER-MAN 2 Blu-ray Bonus Features (http://collider.com/sinister-six-marc-webb-details/)
Quote from: Perri Nemiroff 
A video compilation from YouTube user Amazing Spider Man (via CinemaBlend (http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Spider-Man-Director-Confirms-Three-Planned-Members-Sinister-Six-66886.html)) puts together some of the best bits from the “Something Sinister This Way Comes” disc, beginning with:

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That’s when Webb reveals that the cat-like symbol is actually a spear, teasing Kraven the Hunter’s involvement, and also points out that Mysterio is in the mix as well because he’s a personal favorite.
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“It’s tricky because we’re not exactly sure if all those people are gonna be in the Sinister Six, or even in the next movie.  Like the Mysterio mask, I just think looks really cool.  And I love Mysterio, but we haven’t all agreed on it, but I just forced it in because I thought it looked cool.”
Title: Re: The Sinister Six (2016)
Post by: Darth Geek on August 24, 2014, 04:24:16 PM
Since I still haven't watched ASM2, is the shot of Osborn walking past the Dr. Octopus Arms and Vulture wings and stuff that it shows in the trailer the only time we see them in the movie? Because that seems really dumb to show in a trailer what was supposed to be a easter egg (albeit an obvious one).
Title: Re: The Sinister Six (2016)
Post by: Kete on August 26, 2014, 09:13:46 AM
Teaser trailer for Sinister Six movie (http://shakefire.com/video/spider-man-turn-off-the-dark-a-freak-like-me-needs-company-late-show-performance)

Sorry, it won't embed.
Title: Re: The Sinister Six (2016)
Post by: Henry88 on December 14, 2018, 01:06:04 PM
COLLIDER DECEMBER 14, 2018: (http://collider.com/sinister-six-movie-drew-goddard-amy-pascal/)
Amy Pascal Still Wants to Make Drew Goddard’s ‘Sinister Six’ Movie
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Bleeding Cool December 13, 2013: (http://www.bleedingcool.com/2013/12/13/drew-goddard-to-write-and-might-direct-sinister-six-new-writers-attached-to-venom-movie/)
Drew Goddard To Write And Might Direct Sinister Six, Amazing Spider-Man And Bill And Ted Writers Attached To Venom Movie
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Here’s the full announcement:
SONY PICTURES ENTERTAINMENT TO EXPAND THE SPIDER-MAN UNIVERSE ON SCREEN WITH ALL-STAR WRITING TEAM

Alex Kurtzman, Roberto Orci, Jeff Pinkner, Ed Solomon, and Drew Goddard to Collaborate with Marc Webb and Producers Avi Arad and Matt Tolmach on Developing the Universe and Expanding the Story in “The Amazing Spider-Man 3,” “Venom,” and “The Sinister Six”

CULVER CITY, Calif., December 12, 2013 – In a move to forge a new legacy in the story of Peter Parker on screen, Sony Pictures Entertainment, in association with Marvel Entertainment, is developing several new projects in the Spider-Man franchise, with Alex Kurtzman, Roberto Orci, Jeff Pinkner, Ed Solomon, and Drew Goddard to collaborate on overseeing the developing story over several films that will be produced by Avi Arad and Matt Tolmach, it was announced today by Doug Belgrad, president of Columbia Pictures, and Hannah Minghella, president of Production for the studio.

The five writers, along with the two producers and Marc Webb, have formed a franchise brain trust to expand the universe for the brand and to develop a continuous tone and thread throughout the films. Under the deals, the studio announced that Kurtzman & Orci & Pinkner are writing the screenplay for The Amazing Spider-Man 3, which the studio hopes Webb will return to direct; the film will go into production next fall for release on June 10, 2016. In addition, the team will build on the cinematic foundation laid by Webb, Arad, and Tolmach in the first two movies. They will expand the franchise as Kurtzman & Orci & Solomon will write the screenplay for Venom, which Kurtzman will direct; also, Goddard will write, with an eye to direct, The Sinister Six, focusing on the villains in the franchise. Hannah Minghella and Rachel O’Connor will oversee the development and production of these films for the studio.

In tapping these five writers, the studio and the producers are guiding the future of the franchise with the writer/producers who have each played significant and key roles in developing such highly successful franchises, films, and series as Star Trek, Transformers, “Alias,” “Fringe,” Men in Black, Bill & Ted’s Excellent Adventure, World War Z, “Lost,” Cloverfield, The Cabin in the Woods, and Marvel’s upcoming “Daredevil” series.

Commenting on the announcement, Belgrad said, “The Spider-Man film franchise is one of our studio’s greatest assets. We are thrilled with the creative team we have assembled to delve more deeply into the world that Marc, Avi and Matt have begun to explore in The Amazing Spider-Man and The Amazing Spider-Man 2. We believe that Marc, Alex, and Drew have uniquely exciting visions for how to expand the Spider-Man universe in each of these upcoming films.”

Arad and Tolmach added, “This collaboration was born out of the great experience we and Marc had working with Alex, Bob, and Jeff on The Amazing Spider-Man 2. With more than fifty years’ wealth of stories in the comic books to draw upon for inspiration, the Spider-Man universe is truly boundless; in addition, the Spider-Man comics have the greatest rogues gallery of any series, and to have the chance to explore that on film is truly thrilling. Until now, we have approached each film as a separate, self-contained entity, but with this move, we have the opportunity to grow the franchise by looking to the future as we develop a continuous arc for the story. That is what Alex, Bob, Jeff, Ed, and Drew will do in this unprecedented collaboration, and we’re excited about the directions they are taking the character and the world.”